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RockLobsterHi, my girlfriend gave me her old laptop and the only version of xubuntu I had laying around was 12.04. I have no blank CDs or DVDs and no way of booting off of flash drive. Any way I can update to latest version without downloading the ISO?07:23
RockLobsterIs there anybody out there?07:26
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jglauchehello, I re-installed xubuntu on this computer two days ago, the latest LTS version. My Menu icon turns into a black square after a bit of usage - http://i.imgur.com/AqNUYOd.png09:28
jglaucheany ideas?09:28
jglauchewhen I hover it with the mouse, it turns back normal09:28
knomeso... which session are you using?09:30
knomeand which theme? does this happen with all themes?09:30
ochosii think that's a bug in the whiskermenu that was since fixed09:35
ochosibut it's likely that the fix hasn't been backported09:35
jglaucheI think I found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/142178609:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1397095 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1421786 dragging applications in the task bar causes repaint errors" [Medium,Confirmed]09:39
ochosiyeah, or that one09:40
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xubuntu65wI updated .bashrc and now I can not log in. I can provide specific details if needed. Thanks15:07
smzzhello anyone can help me w/ xubuntu, i installed on 30 GB SSD  w/ LVM full encryption, i have free 16 gb and /dev + /run/shm use 1.9 * 2 GB, i want to resize this swap and i don't know how.15:34
xubuntu25ojust wondering whats the easiest  way to upgrade dist from a really old version ?17:28
knomedefine really old?17:29
cfhowlettxubuntu25o, download .iso and clean install17:29
ObrienDavesudo do-release-upgrade17:29
knomeObrienDave, nnnope.17:29
knomeObrienDave, if really old means EOL, that won't work17:29
xubuntu25oi tried that command but its comes up missing saucy tar file17:31
cfhowlettxubuntu25o, yep.  too old for direct upgrade.  you have to jump incremental upgrades via the EOL method or ... clean install.17:31
xubuntu25oam i going to have to do a reinstall rather than updating ?17:31
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | xubuntu25o, depends on your pain tolerance.17:32
ubottuxubuntu25o, depends on your pain tolerance.: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:32
knome13.10 gets to 14.04 LTS with one jump, so it's not so horrible17:32
knomebut of course it depends if 14.04 is enough or if 15.04 is desired17:33
xubuntu25o15 the current latest ?17:33
ObrienDave15.04, yes17:33
knome15.04 is the latest release, 14.04 is the latest LTS release17:33
cfhowlettxubuntu25o, it is but only 9 months support.  you strike me as an LTS user17:33
ObrienDave14.04 is latest LTS release17:34
xubuntu25oI am more of a if its not broke dont touch it lol17:34
ObrienDavethen LTS is for you :)17:35
cfhowlettxubuntu25o, LTS then.  5 years support --- well 3 years on xubuntu17:35
xubuntu25othanks for the help I will follow the guide from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:38
ObrienDavegood luck17:38
xubuntu635French people here '17:43
knome!fr | xubuntu63517:43
ubottuxubuntu635: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en fran├žais, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.17:43
xubuntu34wHello all. I'm curious, is it normal / generally okay to reformat and do a clean install of xubuntu regularly?19:12
xubuntu34wOr should reformatting the HDD be avoided when possible?19:12
butter_how often is 'regularly'?19:14
xubuntu34wEvery few months.19:14
bekksYou dont need to reformat at all.19:14
xubuntu34w3-4 months.19:14
bekksNo need to.19:14
butter_is there a reasons you're doing it so often?19:14
xubuntu34wI haven't been doing it often actually, but I'm thinking of reinstalling Xubuntu to the LTS release.19:15
xubuntu34wI'm on 15.04 currently. Wouldn't the cleanest way to reinstall / switch OS versions be to reformat first?19:16
bekksSo install the LTS and upgrade to the next one in 2019 :)19:16
xubuntu34wCorrect me if i'm wrong19:16
bekks14.04 is supported until 2019.19:16
bekksBackup your data, insert an installation CD, install it.19:16
xubuntu34wOk, cool. I figured it would be better to reformat but I guess that's not necessary.19:17
bekksForget about reformatting. Thats an urban legend not needed for twi decades at last now.19:17
xubuntu34wSo the installation software removes the previous OS without the need for any additional actions?19:18
bekksI you choose to do so, yes.19:18
mrkrampsxubuntu34w, the installer will ask you if it is allowed to do so and you have to take the simple action to confirm19:19
xubuntu34wThanks. So what exactly happens when I select the option to do so (remove the current OS)?19:19
xubuntu34wIn terms of the HDD / partitioning19:20
mrkrampsdepends on your current partitioning19:20
bekksAnd depends on your choice on how to partition.19:20
xubuntu34wI have two partitions. One for 15.04 and a second for backup (not sure what thatt's called)19:20
bekks"a second partition for backups".19:21
xubuntu34wwith the second partion being rather small19:21
bekksYou'd better store backups on a second drive.19:21
xubuntu34wI usually backup onto an external HDD19:21
xubuntu34w(my back up has a backup)19:22
mrkrampsthat's good19:22
xubuntu34wIsn't there are auto option for partioning during the ubuntu install and also a customm option?19:23
xubuntu34w*there an19:23
xubuntu34wWould you mind telling me what the auto configuration does19:23
mrkrampsusing the whole disk19:23
xubuntu34wWould you reccomend that? My HDD is only 500 gigs so I could use most if not all of the available space19:24
mrkrampsthere is no problem19:24
mrkrampsbut it will delete _all_ partitions19:25
xubuntu34wShouldn't be a problem (considering the backup goes well)19:25
xubuntu34wThanks mrkramps and everyone else19:25
DMackeyOk HOW does one get the eth0 network interface working? I set all the IP's in the 'network connections' But on '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or even a system reboot, the IP's never stick and I can't use the interface.22:38
DMackeyifconfig says it IS THERE, pulling my hair out here..22:38
DMackeyWifi on same machine works perfect22:38
knomeDMackey, interfaces need to be "auto" on the config if you use network-manager for connection management22:48
DMackeyauto eth022:50
DMackeyiface eth0 inet static22:50
DMackey   address
DMackey    netmask
DMackey    gateway
DMackeyThis is what I have in etc/network/interfaces22:50
DMackeyerrr for address22:51
zippo^which app of touchpad can i best use?22:51
zippo^i want more possible with touchpad22:51
mrkrampsDMackey, maybe you need an additional dns-nameservers entry22:54
mrkrampssame ip as gateway22:55
zippo^i ask about touchpad23:00
knomezippo^, i don't understand your question23:00
knomezippo^, is some feature in your touchpad not working?23:00
zippo^my touchpad works good, but i want more possible (my english is no good), has xubuntu a special advance application for touchpad, knom?23:01
knomezippo^, what's your native language?23:01
zippo^dutch sign language23:01
knome!nl | zippo^23:01
ubottuzippo^: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl23:01
knomewould that help?23:01
zippo^ow that i didnt kknow. thx knome23:02
knomeno problem, and good luck23:02
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