=== bazhang__ is now known as bazhang === mrkramps_ is now known as mrkramps === roniez_ is now known as roniez [07:23] Hi, my girlfriend gave me her old laptop and the only version of xubuntu I had laying around was 12.04. I have no blank CDs or DVDs and no way of booting off of flash drive. Any way I can update to latest version without downloading the ISO? [07:26] Is there anybody out there? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [09:28] hello, I re-installed xubuntu on this computer two days ago, the latest LTS version. My Menu icon turns into a black square after a bit of usage - http://i.imgur.com/AqNUYOd.png [09:28] any ideas? [09:28] when I hover it with the mouse, it turns back normal [09:30] so... which session are you using? [09:30] and which theme? does this happen with all themes? [09:35] i think that's a bug in the whiskermenu that was since fixed [09:35] but it's likely that the fix hasn't been backported [09:39] I think I found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1421786 [09:39] Launchpad bug 1397095 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1421786 dragging applications in the task bar causes repaint errors" [Medium,Confirmed] [09:40] yeah, or that one === azeam_afk is now known as azeam === azeam_afk is now known as azeam === tgm4883_ is now known as tgm4883 [15:07] I updated .bashrc and now I can not log in. I can provide specific details if needed. Thanks [15:34] hello anyone can help me w/ xubuntu, i installed on 30 GB SSD w/ LVM full encryption, i have free 16 gb and /dev + /run/shm use 1.9 * 2 GB, i want to resize this swap and i don't know how. [17:26] hi [17:27] hello [17:28] just wondering whats the easiest way to upgrade dist from a really old version ? [17:29] define really old? [17:29] xubuntu25o, download .iso and clean install [17:29] sudo do-release-upgrade [17:29] ObrienDave, nnnope. [17:29] ObrienDave, if really old means EOL, that won't work [17:31] i tried that command but its comes up missing saucy tar file [17:31] xubuntu25o, yep. too old for direct upgrade. you have to jump incremental upgrades via the EOL method or ... clean install. [17:31] am i going to have to do a reinstall rather than updating ? [17:32] !eolupgrade | xubuntu25o, depends on your pain tolerance. [17:32] xubuntu25o, depends on your pain tolerance.: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [17:32] 13.10 gets to 14.04 LTS with one jump, so it's not so horrible [17:33] but of course it depends if 14.04 is enough or if 15.04 is desired [17:33] 15 the current latest ? [17:33] 15.04, yes [17:33] 15.04 is the latest release, 14.04 is the latest LTS release [17:33] xubuntu25o, it is but only 9 months support. you strike me as an LTS user [17:34] 14.04 is latest LTS release [17:34] :) [17:34] I am more of a if its not broke dont touch it lol [17:35] then LTS is for you :) [17:35] xubuntu25o, LTS then. 5 years support --- well 3 years on xubuntu [17:38] thanks for the help I will follow the guide from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [17:38] :) [17:38] good luck [17:42] Hi [17:42] hello [17:43] French people here ' [17:43] !fr | xubuntu635 [17:43] xubuntu635: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [19:12] Hello all. I'm curious, is it normal / generally okay to reformat and do a clean install of xubuntu regularly? [19:12] Or should reformatting the HDD be avoided when possible? [19:14] how often is 'regularly'? [19:14] Every few months. [19:14] You dont need to reformat at all. [19:14] 3-4 months. [19:14] No need to. [19:14] is there a reasons you're doing it so often? [19:15] I haven't been doing it often actually, but I'm thinking of reinstalling Xubuntu to the LTS release. [19:16] I'm on 15.04 currently. Wouldn't the cleanest way to reinstall / switch OS versions be to reformat first? [19:16] So install the LTS and upgrade to the next one in 2019 :) [19:16] Correct me if i'm wrong [19:16] 14.04 is supported until 2019. [19:16] Backup your data, insert an installation CD, install it. [19:17] Ok, cool. I figured it would be better to reformat but I guess that's not necessary. [19:17] Forget about reformatting. Thats an urban legend not needed for twi decades at last now. [19:17] *least [19:18] So the installation software removes the previous OS without the need for any additional actions? [19:18] I you choose to do so, yes. [19:19] xubuntu34w, the installer will ask you if it is allowed to do so and you have to take the simple action to confirm [19:19] Thanks. So what exactly happens when I select the option to do so (remove the current OS)? [19:20] In terms of the HDD / partitioning [19:20] depends on your current partitioning [19:20] And depends on your choice on how to partition. [19:20] I have two partitions. One for 15.04 and a second for backup (not sure what thatt's called) [19:21] "a second partition for backups". [19:21] with the second partion being rather small [19:21] You'd better store backups on a second drive. [19:21] I usually backup onto an external HDD [19:22] (my back up has a backup) [19:22] that's good [19:23] Isn't there are auto option for partioning during the ubuntu install and also a customm option? [19:23] *there an [19:23] yes [19:23] Would you mind telling me what the auto configuration does [19:23] using the whole disk [19:24] Would you reccomend that? My HDD is only 500 gigs so I could use most if not all of the available space [19:24] there is no problem [19:25] but it will delete _all_ partitions [19:25] Shouldn't be a problem (considering the backup goes well) [19:25] yepp [19:25] Thanks mrkramps and everyone else [22:38] Ok HOW does one get the eth0 network interface working? I set all the IP's in the 'network connections' But on '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or even a system reboot, the IP's never stick and I can't use the interface. [22:38] ifconfig says it IS THERE, pulling my hair out here.. [22:38] Wifi on same machine works perfect [22:48] DMackey, interfaces need to be "auto" on the config if you use network-manager for connection management [22:50] auto eth0 [22:50] iface eth0 inet static [22:50] address 192.168.1.1 [22:50] netmask 255.255.255.0 [22:50] gateway 192.168.1.1 [22:50] This is what I have in etc/network/interfaces [22:51] errr 192.168.1.133 for address [22:51] which app of touchpad can i best use? [22:51] i want more possible with touchpad [22:54] DMackey, maybe you need an additional dns-nameservers entry [22:55] same ip as gateway [22:59] who? [23:00] i ask about touchpad [23:00] zippo^, i don't understand your question [23:00] zippo^, is some feature in your touchpad not working? [23:01] my touchpad works good, but i want more possible (my english is no good), has xubuntu a special advance application for touchpad, knom? [23:01] zippo^, what's your native language? [23:01] dutch sign language [23:01] !nl | zippo^ [23:01] zippo^: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl [23:01] would that help? [23:02] ow that i didnt kknow. thx knome [23:02] no problem, and good luck === littlebunnyfufu is now known as SonikkuAmerica