[07:23] <RockLobster> Hi, my girlfriend gave me her old laptop and the only version of xubuntu I had laying around was 12.04. I have no blank CDs or DVDs and no way of booting off of flash drive. Any way I can update to latest version without downloading the ISO?
[07:26] <RockLobster> Is there anybody out there?
[09:28] <jglauche> hello, I re-installed xubuntu on this computer two days ago, the latest LTS version. My Menu icon turns into a black square after a bit of usage - http://i.imgur.com/AqNUYOd.png
[09:28] <jglauche> any ideas?
[09:28] <jglauche> when I hover it with the mouse, it turns back normal
[09:30] <knome> so... which session are you using?
[09:30] <knome> and which theme? does this happen with all themes?
[09:35] <ochosi> i think that's a bug in the whiskermenu that was since fixed
[09:35] <ochosi> but it's likely that the fix hasn't been backported
[09:39] <jglauche> I think I found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1421786
[09:40] <ochosi> yeah, or that one
[15:07] <xubuntu65w> I updated .bashrc and now I can not log in. I can provide specific details if needed. Thanks
[15:34] <smzz> hello anyone can help me w/ xubuntu, i installed on 30 GB SSD  w/ LVM full encryption, i have free 16 gb and /dev + /run/shm use 1.9 * 2 GB, i want to resize this swap and i don't know how.
[17:26] <xubuntu25o> hi
[17:27] <knome> hello
[17:28] <xubuntu25o> just wondering whats the easiest  way to upgrade dist from a really old version ?
[17:29] <knome> define really old?
[17:29] <cfhowlett> xubuntu25o, download .iso and clean install
[17:29] <ObrienDave> sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:29] <knome> ObrienDave, nnnope.
[17:29] <knome> ObrienDave, if really old means EOL, that won't work
[17:31] <xubuntu25o> i tried that command but its comes up missing saucy tar file
[17:31] <cfhowlett> xubuntu25o, yep.  too old for direct upgrade.  you have to jump incremental upgrades via the EOL method or ... clean install.
[17:31] <xubuntu25o> am i going to have to do a reinstall rather than updating ?
[17:32] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | xubuntu25o, depends on your pain tolerance.
[17:32] <knome> 13.10 gets to 14.04 LTS with one jump, so it's not so horrible
[17:33] <knome> but of course it depends if 14.04 is enough or if 15.04 is desired
[17:33] <xubuntu25o> 15 the current latest ?
[17:33] <ObrienDave> 15.04, yes
[17:33] <knome> 15.04 is the latest release, 14.04 is the latest LTS release
[17:33] <cfhowlett> xubuntu25o, it is but only 9 months support.  you strike me as an LTS user
[17:34] <ObrienDave> 14.04 is latest LTS release
[17:34] <xubuntu25o> :)
[17:34] <xubuntu25o> I am more of a if its not broke dont touch it lol
[17:35] <ObrienDave> then LTS is for you :)
[17:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu25o, LTS then.  5 years support --- well 3 years on xubuntu
[17:38] <xubuntu25o> thanks for the help I will follow the guide from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[17:38] <xubuntu25o> :)
[17:38] <ObrienDave> good luck
[17:42] <xubuntu635> Hi
[17:42] <knome> hello
[17:43] <xubuntu635> French people here '
[17:43] <knome> !fr | xubuntu635
[19:12] <xubuntu34w> Hello all. I'm curious, is it normal / generally okay to reformat and do a clean install of xubuntu regularly?
[19:12] <xubuntu34w> Or should reformatting the HDD be avoided when possible?
[19:14] <butter_> how often is 'regularly'?
[19:14] <xubuntu34w> Every few months.
[19:14] <bekks> You dont need to reformat at all.
[19:14] <xubuntu34w> 3-4 months.
[19:14] <bekks> No need to.
[19:14] <butter_> is there a reasons you're doing it so often?
[19:15] <xubuntu34w> I haven't been doing it often actually, but I'm thinking of reinstalling Xubuntu to the LTS release.
[19:16] <xubuntu34w> I'm on 15.04 currently. Wouldn't the cleanest way to reinstall / switch OS versions be to reformat first?
[19:16] <bekks> So install the LTS and upgrade to the next one in 2019 :)
[19:16] <xubuntu34w> Correct me if i'm wrong
[19:16] <bekks> 14.04 is supported until 2019.
[19:16] <bekks> Backup your data, insert an installation CD, install it.
[19:17] <xubuntu34w> Ok, cool. I figured it would be better to reformat but I guess that's not necessary.
[19:17] <bekks> Forget about reformatting. Thats an urban legend not needed for twi decades at last now.
[19:17] <bekks> *least
[19:18] <xubuntu34w> So the installation software removes the previous OS without the need for any additional actions?
[19:18] <bekks> I you choose to do so, yes.
[19:19] <mrkramps> xubuntu34w, the installer will ask you if it is allowed to do so and you have to take the simple action to confirm
[19:19] <xubuntu34w> Thanks. So what exactly happens when I select the option to do so (remove the current OS)?
[19:20] <xubuntu34w> In terms of the HDD / partitioning
[19:20] <mrkramps> depends on your current partitioning
[19:20] <bekks> And depends on your choice on how to partition.
[19:20] <xubuntu34w> I have two partitions. One for 15.04 and a second for backup (not sure what thatt's called)
[19:21] <bekks> "a second partition for backups".
[19:21] <xubuntu34w> with the second partion being rather small
[19:21] <bekks> You'd better store backups on a second drive.
[19:21] <xubuntu34w> I usually backup onto an external HDD
[19:22] <xubuntu34w> (my back up has a backup)
[19:22] <mrkramps> that's good
[19:23] <xubuntu34w> Isn't there are auto option for partioning during the ubuntu install and also a customm option?
[19:23] <xubuntu34w> *there an
[19:23] <mrkramps> yes
[19:23] <xubuntu34w> Would you mind telling me what the auto configuration does
[19:23] <mrkramps> using the whole disk
[19:24] <xubuntu34w> Would you reccomend that? My HDD is only 500 gigs so I could use most if not all of the available space
[19:24] <mrkramps> there is no problem
[19:25] <mrkramps> but it will delete _all_ partitions
[19:25] <xubuntu34w> Shouldn't be a problem (considering the backup goes well)
[19:25] <mrkramps> yepp
[19:25] <xubuntu34w> Thanks mrkramps and everyone else
[22:38] <DMackey> Ok HOW does one get the eth0 network interface working? I set all the IP's in the 'network connections' But on '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or even a system reboot, the IP's never stick and I can't use the interface.
[22:38] <DMackey> ifconfig says it IS THERE, pulling my hair out here..
[22:38] <DMackey> Wifi on same machine works perfect
[22:48] <knome> DMackey, interfaces need to be "auto" on the config if you use network-manager for connection management
[22:50] <DMackey> auto eth0
[22:50] <DMackey> iface eth0 inet static
[22:50] <DMackey>    address 192.168.1.1
[22:50] <DMackey>     netmask 255.255.255.0
[22:50] <DMackey>     gateway 192.168.1.1
[22:50] <DMackey> This is what I have in etc/network/interfaces
[22:51] <DMackey> errr 192.168.1.133 for address
[22:51] <zippo^> which app of touchpad can i best use?
[22:51] <zippo^> i want more possible with touchpad
[22:54] <mrkramps> DMackey, maybe you need an additional dns-nameservers entry
[22:55] <mrkramps> same ip as gateway
[22:59] <zippo^> who?
[23:00] <zippo^> i ask about touchpad
[23:00] <knome> zippo^, i don't understand your question
[23:00] <knome> zippo^, is some feature in your touchpad not working?
[23:01] <zippo^> my touchpad works good, but i want more possible (my english is no good), has xubuntu a special advance application for touchpad, knom?
[23:01] <knome> zippo^, what's your native language?
[23:01] <zippo^> dutch sign language
[23:01] <knome> !nl | zippo^
[23:01] <knome> would that help?
[23:02] <zippo^> ow that i didnt kknow. thx knome
[23:02] <knome> no problem, and good luck