[01:49] <fishcooker> how to suspend from command line?
[01:51] <ianorlin> pm-suspend but it has some wierd quirks to work out
[01:52] <Unit193> dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.Suspend boolean:true  ? :P
[11:45] <mig_> Question about the application launch bar: I want to add recently installed apps, but they don't show up in the list. How can I fix this?
[17:51] <silver_m> hi I have a question about plank
[17:52] <silver_m> I removed the anchor icon in plank
[17:52] <silver_m> but now I cannot set plank to be transparent background
[17:52] <silver_m> how can I do this?
[18:20] <krytarik> silver_m: "~/.config/plank/dock1/settings"
[18:22] <krytarik> (Set "Theme" to "Transparent".)
[18:29] <silver_m> My theme is set to transparent however it is gray and not transparent
[18:30] <ianorlyn> silver_m, are you using compisting?
[18:31] <silver_m> I use compton
[18:31] <ianorlyn> hmm I do not know
[18:32] <silver_m> what should run first? compton or plank?
[18:32] <silver_m> I can disable compton and plank
[18:33] <silver_m> and run with the correct order
[18:33] <silver_m> but I dont know what must run first
[18:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> plank is some like dock? First compton, after 15-20 second plank
[18:43] <ianorlyn> yes plank is a dock
[18:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i use cairo-dock + xcompmgr
[19:25] <silver_m> I use lubuntu generic 3.18.0-13 and it does not make reboot or shutdown
[19:25] <silver_m> I click reboot and does nothing
[19:58] <silver_m> which lubuntu version should I install to intel atom?
[20:04] <silver_m> I think 15.04 runs ok
[20:04] <silver_m> however there is a grub at startup and confuses me I dont want it
[20:04] <ianorlyn> silver_m, I think you install to a hard drive or ssd not on the cpu itself
[20:05] <silver_m> can I remove grub from startup?
[20:07] <ianorlyn> grub is the bootloader that you need to boot lubuntu most of the time
[20:08] <silver_m> yes but
[20:08] <silver_m> when It opens
[20:08] <silver_m> it says ubuntu
[20:08] <silver_m> I click it
[20:08] <silver_m> and says error
[20:08] <silver_m> then I move a selection down
[20:08] <silver_m> and click it
[20:08] <silver_m> and boots ok
[20:09] <silver_m> now my pc is stuck because of grub
[20:09] <silver_m> and needs reboot from button
[20:10] <silver_m> I did a hard boot
[20:10] <silver_m> now grub says
[20:10] <silver_m> Ubuntu with linux 3.18.0-13 generic
[20:11] <silver_m> Ubuntu with linux 3.18.0-13 systemd
[20:11] <silver_m> if I choose generic pc is halted, if i choose system id pc boots ok
[20:11] <ianorlyn> silver_m, which version of lubuntu is this?
[20:11] <silver_m> systemd not system id
[20:11] <silver_m> 15.04
[20:12] <ianorlyn> boot it and updates
[20:12] <ianorlyn> 15.04 should default to systemd by default after a few changes
[20:12] <silver_m> it says starting 219 version
[20:12] <ianorlyn> I think that only happened if you ran an early development release of 15.04 before the switch from upstart to systemd
[20:13] <silver_m> and what should I do to stop appear grub and choose upstart instead of systemd?
[20:13] <silver_m> I cannot reboot properly
[20:13] <silver_m> it starts grub
[20:13] <silver_m> and causes problem
[20:14] <silver_m> I did all updates and upgrades
[20:15] <silver_m> can I configure grub to run automatically systemd ?
[20:18] <silver_m> I use grub2, and I want it to boot in Advanced Ubuntu  and then Ubuntu linux 3.18.0-13 systemd, how to configure this?
[20:24] <silver_m> this is insane
[20:24] <silver_m> every time I reboot
[20:24] <silver_m> my pc becomes dark
[20:24] <silver_m> then I push on/off and pc closes then I push on/off an pc starts grub2
[20:25] <silver_m> and then I choose advanced ubuntu option
[20:25] <silver_m> and then I choose lubuntu systemd
[20:25] <silver_m> and then pc boots
[20:25] <silver_m> anyone can help?
[20:25] <krytarik> silver_m: Make sure "linux-generic" is installed.
[20:25] <silver_m> how to install this
[20:27] <silver_m> sudo apt-get install linux-generic   ??
[20:27] <krytarik> Yep.
[20:28] <silver_m> ok it installs it now
[20:29] <silver_m> it is newer version it says 3.19.0-25
[20:29] <silver_m> I used old version 3.18.0-13
[20:30] <silver_m> after new version should I do a reboot again or should I install anything more?
[20:32] <silver_m> I have another question, if I install unity-tweak-tool in lubuntu, will pc have any improvements? or it is only for ubuntu?
[20:36] <silver_m> well even with linux-generic pc has black screen in reboot and needs to push on/off button to close, then again on/off buton to open in grub2 and then again choose the options advanced ubuntu  and systemd
[20:36] <silver_m> very inconvenient
[20:37] <silver_m> can I make grub2 to run automatically systemd in reboot?
[20:38] <silver_m> the funny thing is that a quarter ago there was not any grub2  in my pc reboot
[20:38] <silver_m> but suddently appeared this option
[20:39] <silver_m> can I configure grub 2?
[20:44] <silver_m> ok I du some updates maybe it fixes it
[20:46] <decafdoughnut> I have an issue with my computer, when I turn it on the monitor just displays a white screen with a mouse cursor. It doesn't do anything.
[20:47] <silver_m> and it was doing that for many days? or suddenty?
[20:48] <decafdoughnut> i just installed. it worked fine until I rebooted
[20:48] <ianorlin> decafdoughnut: does clicking mouse do anything?
[20:48] <decafdoughnut> nope
[20:48] <silver_m> Yes my pc has problem in reboot too
[20:48] <silver_m> I did some updates
[20:49] <decafdoughnut> but I can't get in to anything at all
[20:50] <silver_m> now I will try it again. My pc started appear a grub2 suddenly, after reboot the screen goes black I push on/off button, I push again on/off button and then grub2 appears
[20:52] <silver_m> another question, can I configure dropbox not appear on startup?
[21:00] <silver_m> ok my pc is fixed I installed linux-generic and did updates so grub2 dissappeared
[21:00] <silver_m> and my pc boots ok
[21:01] <silver_m> thanks for help
[21:04] <silver_m> well now I have to solve the issue of transparent plank
[21:08] <silver_m> well ubuntu one is now working or stopped?
[21:18] <silver_m> lubuntu is good when you get it to work but until you get it to work it is very annoying
[21:22] <BotchlaB> silver_m, I don't think it's /that/ bad, tbh
[21:23] <BotchlaB> Yeah, I needed to tinker some stuff, like turn off ibus so that gedit wouldn't consume 100% CPU.
[21:23] <BotchlaB> But they were mostly minor things.
[21:25] <silver_m> BotchlaB I have a problem with compton and plank
[21:25] <silver_m> I want to run together so the plank has transparent background
[21:25] <BotchlaB> Wait. What exactly are compton and plank? I'm curious since these seem to be physics terms. :)
[21:25] <holstein> have you tried wbar?
[21:25] <holstein> it used to do transparency without needing comp like that
[21:25] <silver_m> but the plank has not transparent background it has gray
[21:26] <holstein> adding compositing may be more than just a trivial thing with lubuntu... and it may make it unstable, or, "heavy"
[21:26] <silver_m> what is wbar
[21:26] <holstein> !info wbar
[21:26] <silver_m> wbar is like plank?
[21:26] <holstein> its a plank like item that has transparency, as i said, simpler.. and lighter, as well
[21:26] <silver_m> ok I will try it
[21:26] <holstein> its more appropriate, i think, for lxde..
[21:27] <holstein> i have used both plank and wbar.. they are different, for sure.. im just saying, wbar is light, and transparent, and doenst require 3d for it, or comp..
[21:27] <silver_m> BotchlaB compton is a window manager, and plank is a dock app like docky
[21:27] <holstein> right
[21:27] <BotchlaB> I see.
[21:28] <holstein> compton *may* supply what you need, for transparency support in plank
[21:29] <silver_m> well i run both compton and plank but I removed the anchor icon of plank and there is no transparency
[21:29] <holstein> silver_m: you can use the config file, mentioned before.. otherwise, test that you have compositing
[21:29] <silver_m> I dont know how to bring back the anchor icon
[21:29] <holstein> just installing compton dosent do the trick..
[21:29] <holstein> you dont need the anchor icon, but, you can always simply reset the config file, and go back to a default setup
[21:30] <holstein> with the anchor.. and all other defaults
[21:30] <ianorlin> yeah I mean only if you have a recent one is it worth it
[21:31] <silver_m> Botchlab are you a physician?
[21:31] <BotchlaB> ...No? lol
[21:31] <silver_m> in google if I type plank it shows max planck
[21:31] <BotchlaB> OHH.
[21:31] <BotchlaB> You mean *physicist*.
[21:31] <BotchlaB> Physician = doctor.
[21:32] <silver_m> yes
[21:32] <holstein> you dont need to delete the config file, you can just rename it.. and have it as a backup
[21:32] <holstein> !ot
[21:32] <holstein> we have #lubuntu-offtopic as well :)
[21:38] <silver_m> holstein if I install wbar should I remove compton?
[21:39] <holstein> silver_m: there really wont be a "should" scneario.. if you dont need compositing, i wouldnt use compton..
[21:39] <silver_m> I installed compton only because I wanted to run plank
[21:42] <silver_m> I have another question. I have dropbox but I dont want it to run at startup, is there a way to stop it from startup?
[21:43] <suncokret> i use 32bit lubuntu, what will be faster if i install 64bit?
[21:44] <ianorlin> suncokret: what kind of processor and how much ram?
[21:44] <suncokret> intel core 2 duo e8400 and 2Gb ram
[21:45] <holstein> silver_m: what i do is, just dont run dropbox locally. otherwise, they will have to provide support for the product.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/142131/how-do-i-prevent-dropbox-from-being-automatically-added-to-the-autostart-list-af may work..
[21:46] <ianorlin> ah I run 64 bit on my core 2 duo with 4 GB ram
[21:46] <ianorlin> 2 might or might not be worth it
[21:48] <suncokret> i instaled lubuntu 32bit on pentium d 820 with 1GB ram, and now i use that hard disk on other motherboard with e8400 and 2GB ram
[21:48] <suncokret> so i don't know if i install 64 bit, how much faster it will be than 32bit
[21:49] <ianorlin> I don't think much
[21:49] <ianorlin> although if you run many browser tabs it oculd start running out of ram
[21:50] <suncokret> tell me this, for example if on lubuntu 32bit firefox use 100MB ram, will on lubuntu 64bit firefox use 200MB?
[21:52] <ianorlin> not double but some more
[21:53] <BotchlaB> I see, so even on amd64-compatible systems, to use less resources, 32-bit OS is better?
[21:53] <BotchlaB> On older systems, I mean.
[21:54] <suncokret> i ask here how will linux work if i change motherboard, and somebody told me should not be problems, and now i can say that lubuntu continued to work like i didn't change any hardware
[22:06] <ianorlin> I would probaly work with either
[22:08] <suncokret> so you think there is no much advantage with 64bit lubuntu>?
[22:14] <ianorlin> it depends with a newer computer sure
[22:14] <ianorlin> I do think it is better with more ram
[22:15] <bioterror> some raw facts: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1404_x64&num=1
[22:16] <bioterror> with mp3 encoding, you could win 2 secs :D
[22:25] <silver_m> I installed wbar but I cannot configure it. The configure button is unclickable
[22:26] <suncokret> so i think i will not need to install 64bit, it is very little faster
[22:26] <silver_m> the wbar is on the left of my screen vertically but I want it at the bottom of screen horizontally
[22:26] <silver_m> and I also want to change the icons
[22:26] <silver_m> of wbar
[22:27] <silver_m> and put other programs than the default
[22:33] <silver_m> anyone knows how to configure wbar?
[22:42] <krytarik> !info wbar-config | silver_m
[22:43] <silver_m> should I install wbar-config with sudo apt-get install wbar-config?
[22:43] <krytarik> Yep.
[22:44] <silver_m> ok thanks
[22:45] <krytarik> As I see it, there isn't a "configure button" in the first place though.
[22:45] <silver_m> it is
[22:45] <silver_m> one
[22:45] <silver_m> on top of wbar
[22:45] <silver_m> it says confic
[22:45] <silver_m> config
[22:45] <silver_m> but I click it a
[22:45] <silver_m> and
[22:45] <silver_m> it does not working
[22:46] <krytarik> silver_m: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on one line - easier to follow for everyone.
[22:46] <silver_m> yes ok
[22:46] <silver_m> I will try that gui
[22:47] <krytarik> silver_m: It's a separate launcher.
[22:47] <silver_m> if I use this launcher the next time I reboot, the wbar will be configured?
[22:48] <krytarik> Well, restart wbar really, but yeah.
[22:49] <silver_m> Wbar has a disadvantage that when I use rotating backgrounds, it keeps the old background
[22:49] <krytarik> Heh.