[05:27] <slangasek> infinity: so, livecd-rootfs creates images using the tasks?
[05:29] <slangasek> that seems to make it somewhat problematic to try to build a test image from wily-proposed, since the old libraries are all still available in wily with the Task header
[05:31] <ianorlin> although what about other flavors seeding language packs that don't want the video ?
[05:32] <slangasek> (I'm open to suggestions for how to work around this so we can build a test image before copying to wily)
[05:32] <slangasek> ianorlin: is that a response to me?
[05:33] <ianorlin> yes at least if I understand correctly
[05:35] <slangasek> sorry, I don't see what your comment about language packs and video has to do with tasks and proposed
[05:35] <ianorlin> nevermind I was offtopic and thinking of something else oops
[07:58] <infinity> slangasek: We can put a uses-metapackages version of livecd-rootfs in a PPA, and build the livefses in same PPA.
[07:59] <infinity> slangasek: Honestly, I've been considering switching back to all-meta-all-the-time anyway, since we have to switch from tasks to meta for LTS point releases, which is painful if no one's tested installing with metas.
[08:00] <infinity> slangasek: It would also fix some of the "libraries never autoremove on SOVER bump" issues that installing with tasks can cause.
[09:31] <ogra_> oh, the transition has reached the desktop image
[09:32]  * ogra_ notices a pile of builf failure mails 
[09:32] <ogra_> *build
[10:08] <doko> ogra_, you can upgrade to the wily-proposed desktop
[10:08] <doko> so what does fail?
[15:06] <bluesabre> is there a new ubiquity release planned before b1? there's a few new commits since the last release 2 months ago :)
[18:14] <slangasek> infinity: ah... in fact I though there was a grand plan to make the latest version of livecd-rootfs install the same way as for point releases, didn't realize that hadn't happened yet.  Could we do that now?
[21:31] <infinity> slangasek: We can try.  The fundamental problem (and the reason I haven't done it) is that tasks make better decisions about alternate deps.
[21:32] <infinity> slangasek: See the *_HINTS variables in the trusty version to see what I mean.  Tasks are explicit in the exact package set you want, metapackages don't do so well at that.
[22:12] <slangasek> ^^ please don't accept qt-gstreamer, I've just noticed it's an unnecessary change and am backing this one out
[22:13] <slangasek> well, this one is special.  "Encountered a section with no Package: header"? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-gstreamer/1.2.0-2ubuntu1/+build/7777315
[22:18] <doko> slangasek, looks like the biggest blocker is kde now, however everything in universe. couldn't reach Riddell the last days, and important packages are not yet in their preparation ppa
[22:19] <slangasek> doko: why is any of this still in a ppa, rather than in wily-proposed?
[22:20] <doko> why do you ask me? I only were asking for batched uploads, not everything at once.
[22:21] <wgrant> slangasek: qt-gstramer -2ubuntu2 built successfully. Is something you changed likely to have fixed the sbuild thing?
[22:21] <wgrant> Hm, only failed on armhf, weiiiird.
[22:21] <slangasek> doko: I'm asking you because you apparently know of the existence of a staging ppa which I've heard nothing about, and everything else is already landing in the archive
[22:21] <slangasek> wgrant: yeah, not related to the package afaics
[22:21] <doko> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.13.0_wily.html
[22:35] <slangasek> heh, some kind of record... smokegen exports 5 symbols and 4 of them changed for g++5
[22:40] <doko> ;p