[04:39] doko: is it ok to upload qt-gstreamer with gcc5 fix? [04:40] Riddell: did we ever establish a way to work with the repos of debian that have a source copy a la UDD? (qt-gstreamer for example) [05:35] sitter, yes. didn't hear back from Riddell ... [05:36] sitter: if you have any idea how to fix kdepim ... [05:38] and I see build failures with libkdegames, kconfig (symbols mismatches), however these packages are not in your staging archive [05:59] Good morning. [06:48] hello world [06:48] today's updates brought in these lovely errors: [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5emoticons-dev_5.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb [06:48] trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/modules/qt_KEmoticons.pri', which is also in package libkf5emoticons-bin 5.9.0-0ubuntu1 [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin_5.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb [06:48] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/pt_BR/man1/kf5-config.1.gz', which is also in package libkf5kdelibs4support-data 5.9.0-0ubuntu1 === ovidiu is now known as ovidiu-florin [06:49] o/ [06:49] Install it with dpkg --force-overwrite? [06:49] why should I have to overwrite? [06:50] then I'll get wrrors uppon uninstall [06:50] this is not clean [06:50] Correct, but I am usually told to do that when I get such errors ;) [06:50] IMO that's not right [06:50] I suppose you are running Wily? [06:51] Vivid [06:51] with backports [06:51] Oh, it ain't. And they should be fixed, but for the time being you can install it forceably. [06:51] I won't install it like that [06:52] the problem in this case seems to be KDE SC 4 vs KF5 [06:53] Hmm, no gcc5 among the updates :( [06:53] and the emoticons package seems to be a misspackage [06:56] no, sorry, they seem to me that both of them are misspackaging [06:56] I don't know wether I should report this upstrem or not [06:58] If it is a packaging issue, no. Those belong on launchpad. [07:02] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=libkf5emoticons&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [07:03] no such package [07:04] Then I'm afraid you'll have to wait for one of the devs ;) [07:05] sitter sgclark Riddell ping [07:06] hm? [07:06] I get: /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5emoticons-dev_5.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb [07:06] trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/modules/qt_KEmoticons.pri', which is also in package libkf5emoticons-bin 5.9.0-0ubuntu1 [07:06] when updating today [07:07] I think that that package wasn't done right [07:07] and also /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin_5.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb [07:07] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/pt_BR/man1/kf5-config.1.gz', which is also in package libkf5kdelibs4support-data 5.9.0-0ubuntu1 [07:07] I tried to find the package in launchpad in Kubuntu backports [07:08] but no success [07:09] lol [07:09] trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/modules/qt_KEmoticons.pri', which is also in package libkf5emoticons-bin 5.9.0-0ubuntu1 [07:11] ovidiu-florin: you'll have to wait for sgclark I guess. I literally have no idea how backports work [07:12] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kemoticons.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=a1fc69d4044d0ca17db9090abe6b5439a1d7f89e [07:13] sitter: and libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin ? [07:14] don't have a clone now do I [07:15] git clone sitter [07:15] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kdelibs4support.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=e47cf11e963d695ef620d60aafdee0c28ef297ee [07:16] thank you [07:29] doko: I will be working today on my patchset for kde apps, this includes kdepim, I think I know how to fix the kdepim boost issue [07:29] (but I need to finish frameworks 5.13, I'm about to be done) [07:37] santa_, doko: I am actually content to argue that kdepim should simply be locked back at boost1.55 unless there is a practical reason for why that isn't going to work. kdepim is going to become qt5 shortly which solves the problem [07:38] patching the qt4 kdepim to work involves ifdeffing all boost includes which is faffy as there are quite a bunch of them [07:39] sitter, that's not possible, because boost1.55 is not ready for GCC 5. we have to find a solution to get it working with 1.58. [07:39] ifdeffing it is then [07:39] #ifndef Q_MOC_RUN [07:39] sitter, did you see the proposed boost hack? [07:40] in the fedora report? [07:40] I did not [07:41] sitter, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=756395 [07:41] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 756395 in qt "[Boost-1.48.0] Qt and [Parse error at "BOOST_JOIN"] error" [High,Closed: rawhide] [07:41] not sure if something like this would help, otoh, it's a hack [07:42] mh, patching moc without upstream approval gives me a very uneasy feeling [07:43] OTOH a global solution for qt4 would certainly be preferred seeing as qt4 as a whole is going to stick around for quite a while [07:45] anway, but this is one of the uninstallability issues, so a fix would be welcome [08:05] http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kubuntu_patches/kdeframeworks-5.13.0/kconfig/0001-Build-depend-on-extra-cmake-modules-5.13.0.patch [08:05] if only the initial upload script wasn't so incredibly terrible [08:06] how does that sort of thing even happen [08:12] santa_: btw not-installed is supposedly supporting wildcards now http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/pkg-kde-tools.git/commit/?id=ed78c97b898022c79bf3bceca0816cc1765cc690 [08:18] * sitter grows ever so suspicious of the amount of new symbols [08:39] sitter: wrt to wildcards last time I sent a patch using that feature you didn't include the patch === santa is now known as Guest56895 [08:53] doko: wrt gcc 5 transition in ubuntu what is the best chroot to build against gcc? wily + proposed? wily + proposed + silo 16 + silo 39? something else? === Guest56895 is now known as santa_ [08:53] * to build against gcc 5 [08:54] santa_, just wily + -proposed [08:55] ok, I will update my stuff [08:55] hi doko, I'm uploading more stuff today [08:56] starting with frameworks then plasma [08:56] Riddell: please have a look to my frameworks patches ;) [08:56] I don't have anything for plasma [08:56] santa_: didn't harald apply them all? [08:56] Riddell, ta, will be offline until tonigth [08:57] Riddell: doesn't seem so looking @ mailing list [08:58] let me check better [08:58] "Aug 10 Harald Sitter ( 12) [kubuntu-devel] Re: [Merge request] Patchset for KDE Frameworks 5.13" no? [08:58] ah, ok [08:58] he did [08:58] yay [08:58] sorry, I was working offline with kmail, lol [09:04] Riddell: did anyone produce results for ark 15.08 packaging? [09:04] or any of the other apps for that matter [09:04] ahoneybun was looking at ark [09:04] clivejo was strugging with something over the weekend [09:04] but otherwise no [09:12] https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [09:14] sitter_ I hear you are an expert on symbols [09:29] clivejo: oh? [09:29] sitter_: Im having problems with libkf5purpose [09:29] trying to package 1.0~rc1 [09:30] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213894294/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.purpose_1.0~rc1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:30] debug-file-with-no-debug-symbols [09:31] lintan warnings and errors [09:31] also symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision [09:34] clivejo: I don't know why [09:35] best guess I came up with is that the plugins have no debug symbols for whatever reason [09:36] well I created two *.symbols files [09:36] but it is still complaining [09:41] this has nothing to do with symbols files [09:44] what is it about? [09:47] clivejo: the debug package [09:47] clivejo: there's plenty symbols need added to it, that's the output of dpkg-gensymbols in the build log [09:48] and symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision means there's new symbols [09:48] debug-file-with-no-debug-symbols well who knows, just ignore it [09:48] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debug-file-with-no-debug-symbols.html [09:48] ah Riddell, will you check libkf5purpose and kamoso for me? [09:49] also, should the package name be changed to libkf5purpose as well? [09:50] clivejo: looking [09:53] purpose isnt very unique and hard to search for in the archive [09:58] * sitter_ blinks [10:01] hmm lots of the symbols are from plugins in purpose which we don't care about for ABI compatibility [10:01] sitter_: do you think we should put those plugins in a separate package? or otherwise ignore the symbols? [10:02] I don't remember [10:02] last I talked to aleix he said the plugins woudl move the thing they plug [10:02] so I was rather content to not care about them [10:18] sitter_: mm, trouble is gensymbols does want to care about plugin symbols [10:22] clivejo: uploaded purpose to my ppa:jr/ppa with symbols updated but not for plugins [10:22] hi TJ- [10:23] Riddell: what do you mean? [10:23] I dont understand [10:23] and Im about to go out the door [10:23] sitter_: it lists them all as a diff in the buildlog [10:23] Morning [10:23] clivejo: groovy, I'll take a look at kamoso and hope to upload it to ubuntu, thanks :) [10:24] Riddell: well yeah, so add them to the symbols file [10:24] will you be about later for a lesson on symbols? [10:24] clivejo: out from 18:00BST === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Ninjas! https://community.kde.org/Applications/15.08_Release_Notes | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Plasma Mobile images: http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/ | congratulations to sgclark on Akademy Award | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.13.0_wily.html | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html | https://n [10:24] hmm, topic overload === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Plasma Mobile images: http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/ | congratulations to sgclark on Akademy Award | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.13.0_wily.html | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [10:25] https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 for app 15.08, lots to port to kf5 [10:25] TJ-: just incase you're interested in packaging ^^ :) === sitter_ changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.13.0_wily.html | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [10:26] Riddell: gee thanks... not cleared the decks here yet to make time for coding... got a workbench full of electronics to repair :) === sitter_ changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.13.0_wily.html | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [10:26] whoa! [10:28] Does anyone know of a QT/KDE based oscilloscope application? I'm sorely tempted to write a better open-source front-end for the Bitscope (DSO/Logic Analyser/ etc) [10:44] * Riddell pauses kci [11:03] Hi all [11:14] that kdepim FTBFS is super shit [11:26] sitter_: question is if we should just package the frameworks kdepim and deal with that [11:26] Riddell: I am about to call that the path to resolution [11:27] boost is used all over the place in kdepimlibs/kdepim and there's like 300 paths to the offensive includes that cause the FTBFS [12:00] Riddell: what do we do with qt-gstreamer? [12:00] the repo has full source, which kinda clashes with our tools [12:04] sitter_: make a new repo? [12:05] detrout was discussing qt-gstreamer packaging on debian channel yesterday [12:05] and the result was create a new repo Oo [12:06] santa_: FWIW it appears slangasek already did the symbol meddling for qt-gstreamer in wily-proposed [12:11] Riddell: I pushed at kubuntu_wily_archive for now [12:14] frameworks up in ubuntu wily now [12:14] * Riddell looks at plasma [13:02] sgclark: did you ever get anywhere with updating kdeconnect-plasma? [13:08] Riddell: ahh my battery died. Then I forgot. I will finish it today. I am out of town most of this week just so you know. [13:08] sgclark: ok lovely [13:46] clivejo: purpose uploaded to ubuntu but it's waiting on new kdeconnect-plasma which sgclark says she's looking at [13:47] Riddell: I hit the patch wall with ark [13:47] ahoneybun: probably all the patches should be removed [13:48] what patches does it have? [13:48] umm [13:48] I have to look at the ec2 [13:48] patching file plugins/libarchive/libarchivehandler.cpp [13:48] the patch has fuzz [13:49] I gave the full log to sgclark and she says shes been hitting it as well [13:49] umm what? [13:49] ahoneybun: there's only use_libarchive_for_zip_files which is some problematic patch that debian added so just remove it [13:50] reverse applied means it was applied upstream is all I said [13:50] did you remove it already Riddell? [13:50] ahoneybun: nope [13:50] sorry if I misspoke sgclark [13:50] Riddell: I have no exp with patches [13:50] not for awhile [13:51] need to go study quilt then [13:51] eww [13:52] ahoneybun: rm -r debian/patches should work here since it's the only one [13:52] what is series [13:52] ? [13:53] same thing weird [13:54] * ahoneybun grabs food [13:55] ahoneybun: "quilt applied" will tell you if a patch is already applied (stored in the ~/.pc/ directory usually) [13:56] ahoneybun: it just lists the patches to apply [13:56] we removed the patch files [13:56] so it should be empty or not exist [13:57] Riddell: I saw you renewed your membership lol [13:57] sure I'm not leaving my ubuntu membership, it still has great technology [14:00] what a kerfuffle [14:41] grr, most annoyingly kdelibs4support-dev doesn't want to install in the staging-plasma PPA so nothing will compile and I can't work out why it won't install [14:41] works fine in a new chroot I made [14:45] PPA deps.. or lack thereof? [14:52] trying now with -proposed enabled [14:55] yep I think you have it TJ- [15:03] cyphermox: do you know anything about the openconnect gcc transition? [15:03] plasma-nm isn't compiling [15:04] I remember doko mentioning something [15:06] I know nothing of it [15:06] it's failing to build now? [15:11] cyphermox: it's failing to install openconnect-dev [15:11] that usually means gcc these days [15:17] :/ [15:19] Riddell: what is failing to install openconnect-dev? Seems like it should be libopenconnect-dev instead? [15:20] cyphermox: right [15:20] libproxy1 and libproxy1v5 transition I think === jmux_ is now known as jmux [16:24] hola. seen trouble with upgrading on vivid? libkf5i18n5:amd64 depends on libkf5i18n-data (= 5.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1); however: Version of libkf5i18n-data on system is 5.9.0-0ubuntu1. [16:24] oh, wait, oversaw a line [16:25] sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5i18n-data_5.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_all.deb ftw [16:37] yay http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html going green === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [16:44] Riddell: kdeconnect-plasma in staging-misc [17:10] I saw something like Plasma 5.3.2 was available for Kubuntu 15.04 via backports. I can double-check, and post a news item. [17:10] mparillo_: I can confirm, and it works great! [17:10] mparillo_: yeah it is, please do. I am out of time. Thank you. frameworks 5.12.0 and 5.3.2 I backported. [17:11] sgclark: Thanks, you are awesome! :) [17:11] been using it locally and all is working well [17:29] do you guys bump version when moving from testing to backports? [17:29] (testing, staging) [17:31] no [17:40] Riddell: and Frameworks 5.13 are ready ? [17:40] Riddell: well maybe you will have better luck, but latest snapshot of kdeconnect still does not work for me. [17:53] sgclark: Nice, good work on the backports \o/ [17:54] mparillo_: can you post announcement also here https://plus.google.com/communities/108139456908538054874 ? [17:59] I cannot seem to post both to public and to a community. Is there a trick? [18:52] Riddell, saw some uploads, is anything going well? [19:05] what is https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 ? [19:05] apparently need a username and password [19:12] cyphermox: an eitherpad for coordination. You'll need a kde identity account [19:14] yofel: clivejo: ^^ [19:14] oops [19:14] hehe no worries :) [19:15] thanks [19:18] On rekonq, the KDE Etherpad gives: An error occured while loading the pad CircularDependencyError: Encountered circular dependency. in https://notes.kde.org/static/js/require-kernel.js (line 1) [19:20] Alas, google-chrome works. Spyware FTW. [21:05] doko: frameworks is up, plasma I'll do shortly I hope http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html then onto the applications [21:05] (applications includes a few libraries too) [21:05] doko: I'll upload openconnect too for plasma-nm [21:05] ahoneybun: how did you get on with ark? [21:06] Riddell, http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ shows a lot of dep-waits. expected? [21:07] doko: no, it probably needs some retries [21:07] I'll run a retry over all the frameworks [21:08] thanks [21:13] Riddell: i'm ready to test 5.4beta when its ready :D [21:13] soee_: go for it http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.95_wily.html [21:14] what frameworks version it requires ? [21:14] soee_: the one from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks [21:16] Riddell: quick check: this packages are going to be removed: kde-config-touchpad plasma-desktop plasma-widget-kimpanel ? [21:17] soee_: hmm not plasma-desktop [21:17] than something is wrong :) [21:17] soee_: you'll need to enable -proposed too [21:18] looks like it is not a good idea [21:19] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12051626/ [21:20] soee_: mm yes maybe wait a bit [21:20] the gcc transition means things aren't simple [21:20] those issues all need Applications to be updated I think [21:21] ok :) [21:22] ok.. "Plasma 5.3.2 and Frameworks 5.12.0 Backported to Kubuntu 15.04": ONLY 640 MB RAM... Awesome! 0_0 [21:22] ;D [21:23] I don't believe it.. xfce needs more.. [21:24] congratulations guys === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [21:33] plasma is up [21:33] and compiling in wily [21:35] :) [21:41] so i can remove this staging ppas from my list and updates will land in archive ? [21:41] (frameworks + plasma) [21:58] Riddell: I've done nothing after you were messing with it [22:19] Riddell: this is part of 5.4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE9fV8II6eI ? [22:20] Riddell, plasma-pa ftbfs on armhf [22:32] Riddell, plasma-pa only builds on x86, anyway, accepting [22:32] new package