[11:37] <silver_m> well I disabled the wbar because it was not working well in dual screen
[11:37] <silver_m> and in rotating backgrounds
[11:37] <silver_m> was always keeping the previous background
[14:45] <holstein> silver_m: thats what way it provides transparency
[14:46] <silver_m> but why it keeps previous background
[14:46] <holstein> silver_m: as opposed to requiring 3d, which, i think is your issue with plank.. since, my understanding is, you just installed compton, and just installing it is not enough
[14:47] <silver_m> should I config plank to  start some seconds later than compton? at startup?
[14:47] <dero> (i)
[14:57] <holstein> silver_m: i think, personally, you should decide how important transparency is to your work flow, and implement it, into lxde, if thats what you want.. when you do that, then, *all* things that require transparency will just work
[14:58] <silver_m> but the big question is: how to implement transparency
[14:59] <silver_m> ?
[15:01] <krytarik> silver_m: Set up Compton properly.
[15:02] <silver_m> my 1st problem is that I unpinned the anchor icon from plank and now I cannot bring it back
[15:02] <holstein> silver_m: no.. thats not an issue..
[15:02] <silver_m> second problem is that I had set compton -C
[15:03] <holstein> silver_m: you can simply reset the config, and get it back to defaults.. but, the config file allows you to provide the transparency
[15:03] <silver_m> how to reset the config
[15:03] <holstein> silver_m: what you'll do best with, is, simply remove plank from the equation, right now, and *just* implement tranparency, if thats key to your work flow
[15:03] <holstein> silver_m: you can simply rename the config file, or delete it..
[15:04] <silver_m> where can I find the config file
[15:04] <holstein> silver_m:  ~/.config/plank/dock1/settings is what was linked before.. and is documented..
[15:05] <holstein> silver_m: i would look in my users /home for .config/plank, and simply rename, move, or delete plank, and everything inside..
[15:05] <holstein> silver_m: then, you will get, as i said, the default setup, which will give you the anchor, which is *not* going to fix your transparency issue..
[15:06] <silver_m> and what to do in compton to support transparency in plank
[15:06] <holstein> silver_m: please, dont worry with plank.. this is to provide transparency for the entire OS.. so, please, go in steps
[15:06] <silver_m> maybe  the anchor helps me to set images zoom on hover in plank
[15:07] <holstein> silver_m: please, make sure you have reset the config for plank, if you want to get the anchor back.. remove/rename, or delet the config, and reload the desktop.. then, we can move on to transparency..
[15:08] <silver_m> ok I will reset plank
[15:08] <holstein> please, no need to spend time setting up plank, either. just let me know when you have an anchor..
[15:09] <silver_m> ok now I have an anchor
[15:09] <silver_m> I will do the settings later
[15:10] <holstein> so, now.. the question need not be "how to make the background transparent in plank".. the issue is, lxde doenst support transparency, right now.. so, thats what we address.. and compton can do that..
[15:12] <silver_m> yes
[15:12] <silver_m> ok
[15:12] <silver_m> how to support transparency
[15:13] <holstein> silver_m: im looking for a nice, simple, relevant guide for you to add compton, and configure it properly.. please be patient..
[15:14] <holstein> silver_m: are you using lubuntu 15.04?
[15:14] <silver_m> in the other pc I use the LTS
[15:14] <silver_m> in the pc I want to setup
[15:15] <silver_m> I use LTS
[15:15] <holstein> silver_m: so, again, friend.. is this lubuntu 15.04? are are you asnwering, no, this is lubuntu 14.04?
[15:15] <holstein> silver_m: i, and the other volunteers need details..
[15:16] <silver_m> it is lubuntu 14.04 LTS in the pc we talk about
[15:18] <holstein> silver_m: on the pc "we talk about".. you will make sure you have compton installed.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compton"
[15:18] <holstein> silver_m: make sure that completes without error..
[15:18] <silver_m> yes it is insalled
[15:18] <silver_m> installed
[15:18] <holstein> silver_m: so, you ran that command? and have no errors, corrrect?
[15:18] <silver_m> yes
[15:19] <silver_m> it says compton is running
[15:19] <silver_m> latest version
[15:19] <holstein> silver_m: shouldnt say compton is running.. should say, the latest version is *installed*.. not, running..
[15:19] <holstein> but, anyways, i am using http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/how-to-switch-to-compton-for-beautiful-tear-free-compositing-in-xfce/ and will be catering it for you, a bit
[15:19] <holstein> create a text file in ~/.config/ called compton.conf with the following contents:
[15:19] <silver_m> yes but I have conky and says  it is running
[15:20] <holstein> silver_m: conky is *not* compton..
[15:21] <silver_m> yes but it says compton is running
[15:21] <silver_m> it shows tasks
[15:21] <silver_m> on pc
[15:21] <holstein> silver_m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12048690/ is what i would put in that file. its from the linnk i gave
[15:22] <holstein> then, you can use "alt f2" and type "compton" to test it..
[15:22] <silver_m> wait I copy paste it
[15:26] <silver_m> ok I will do this in a few time
[15:26] <holstein> silver_m: cool.. im out.. i need to get back to work here
[15:27] <silver_m> ok I will tell you later what happens
[15:27] <holstein> silver_m: keep in mind, you can use #ubuntu, since this is not specifically related to lubuntu or lxde.. if its slow in here..
[15:27] <silver_m> but I use lubuntu
[15:28] <silver_m> my pc is old and cannot run unity
[15:28] <silver_m> unity is very slow
[15:28] <krytarik> silver_m: He was referring to the IRC channel.
[15:28] <silver_m> before unity I was running ubuntu but after unity pc becme slow
[15:28] <silver_m> ok
[15:35] <holstein> silver_m: sure, and im not suggesting you not use lubuntu, or, that you are using unity.. just that, compton, and plank dont ship with lubuntu or lxde, so, if its slow here, like it is, you can get help in the larger, and more populous #ubuntu channel
[15:37] <silver_m> ok I ll give it a trhy
[15:37] <silver_m> try
[15:38] <silver_m> in the other pc I have lubuntu 15.04 and it has automatically transparent plank but it is not dual screen
[15:39] <holstein> silver_m: sure.. it is a different release, and version of the software
[15:39] <holstein> silver_m: also, a different machine.. with different GPU drivers.. all kinds of variables, that was can sort through..
[15:39] <holstein> silver_m: one easy way.. on the 14.04 machine, take the live 15.04 installer iso, and run it live, and test plank..
[15:40] <holstein> then, you can decide if its easier to implement, what is obviously very important OSX like looking dock, by working with 14.05, or, just installing 15.04
[15:41] <silver_m> ok I will test
[15:41] <holstein> or, implement another dock. or compositing.. etc
[16:53] <silver_m> well I copy pasted the text in compton.conf but the result is still the same
[16:53] <silver_m> no transparent
[17:43] <JohnDoe3> compton
[17:44] <JohnDoe3> i use xcompmgr and try compton only default. And get transparent
[19:04] <Geogts> how easy is it to break my system by removing orphaned packages with gtkorphan?  it found 97 packages when i selected to show all packages, not only those in the libs section.