Nairwolf | Hi ;) | 00:21 |
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nhaines | Meeting in just over 15 minutes! | 01:42 |
DonkeyHotei | o/ | 01:48 |
* ianorlin knows | 01:50 | |
* Roguehorse is here o/ .. be back in like 5/10 min | 01:52 | |
ianorlin | hi | 01:54 |
DonkeyHotei | the agenda looks remarkably blank | 01:56 |
nhaines | That's because it is. | 01:56 |
ianorlin | yeah | 01:56 |
Nairwolf | I'm here ;) | 01:57 |
nhaines | Welcome. :) | 01:58 |
DonkeyHotei | i have observed that the #ubuntu-us-ca meetings and BerkeleyLUG/Ubuntu Hour Berkeley are typically on the same day, and if i attend one, i end up not making it to the other | 01:58 |
nhaines | You should ask them to change their meeting dates. | 01:59 |
nhaines | Or else to put the IRC channel on a projector. | 01:59 |
DonkeyHotei | time in transit is the issue | 01:59 |
nhaines | #startmeeting | 02:00 |
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DonkeyHotei | [Sun 2015-08-09 06:48:52 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> o/ | 02:00 |
nhaines | Welcome to tonight's Ubuntu California LoCo meeting! The agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15August9 | 02:00 |
darthrobot | Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15August9 - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:00 |
nhaines | #topic Upcoming events | 02:01 |
nhaines | Does anyone have any events they'd like to announce? | 02:01 |
* ianorlin does not know of any | 02:02 | |
* Roguehorse nope | 02:02 | |
DonkeyHotei | new horizons getting closer to the kuiper belt? idk | 02:02 |
* Nairwolf is listening | 02:03 | |
nhaines | Well, it is the middle of summer. :) | 02:03 |
nhaines | #topic Announcements | 02:04 |
DonkeyHotei | ubuntu-flavored ice cream? | 02:04 |
nhaines | I gave an encore presentation of my "Writing and Publishing Books with Free Software" talk at OCLUG yesterday. | 02:04 |
* ianorlin saw it and was interesting | 02:04 | |
Roguehorse | =) | 02:04 |
nhaines | It was very well received, I got some great questions after, and it was filmed, so in a week or two I hope to post it to YouTube. | 02:05 |
nhaines | So that was fun! | 02:05 |
Nairwolf | That's sound great, I could share it with a swiss writer as soon as it would be available on YT | 02:06 |
nhaines | Does anyone else have any news or announcements they'd like to share? | 02:06 |
nhaines | Nairwolf: fantastic! I'll announce the link on the mailing list when it's up. | 02:06 |
Nairwolf | nhaines : ok ;) | 02:06 |
nhaines | #topic Other business | 02:08 |
nhaines | Since there are no other agenda items tonight, are there any other topics before we wrap things up? | 02:09 |
Nairwolf | Is it the time to ask questions ? | 02:10 |
nhaines | If they are related to the LoCo, yes. | 02:10 |
DonkeyHotei | maybe lug reports | 02:10 |
nhaines | DonkeyHotei: what do you mean? | 02:11 |
DonkeyHotei | well if there were any questions about ubuntu coming from lugs | 02:11 |
nhaines | DonkeyHotei: those belong on the mailing list unless they are time-critical. | 02:12 |
Nairwolf | I would like to know if an Ubuntu Hour is expected next Wednesday at San Francisco. It's supposed to be the second Wednesday of the month : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours | 02:12 |
darthrobot | Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:12 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: no one has stepped up to host anything, and I'l traveling on the 12th | 02:13 |
nhaines | pleia2: oh, you beat me to checking the LoCo directory. :) | 02:14 |
ianorlin | are there docs on how to host this | 02:14 |
nhaines | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour | 02:14 |
darthrobot | [R: wiki.ubuntu.com] Title: [Hour - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:14 |
Nairwolf | Ok, ok... | 02:14 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: sorry, will have one in September (and a Debian Dinner right after!) | 02:14 |
Nairwolf | nice ;) | 02:15 |
Nairwolf | I supposed it would be annonced on the ml ? | 02:15 |
Nairwolf | So, this is the meeting planned at California ? http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events/ | 02:15 |
darthrobot | Title: [Ubuntu California Events List | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] | 02:15 |
Nairwolf | I don't know how much it's updated. | 02:16 |
pleia2 | yes, all events go there | 02:16 |
Nairwolf | ok | 02:16 |
nhaines | Not all organizers use the tool, but for those who do, they're pretty consistent. | 02:17 |
pleia2 | ah, yeah, I don't see the san diego events on there much :\ | 02:17 |
pleia2 | but we try to get folks to use it, since that's what we use for reports and reapproval and things | 02:17 |
ianorlin | +1 pleia2 | 02:18 |
nhaines | Nairwolf: good question, though! | 02:18 |
nhaines | Anything else before we wrap up? | 02:19 |
DonkeyHotei | [Sun 2015-08-09 07:04:20 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> ubuntu-flavored ice cream? | 02:19 |
nhaines | Alrighty. The next meeting is August 23rd, same time. Have a good evening everybody! | 02:20 |
nhaines | #endmeeting | 02:20 |
darthrobot | Meeting ended Mon Aug 10 02:20:26 2015 UTC. | 02:20 |
darthrobot | Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2015/ubuntu-us-ca.2015-08-10-02.00.moin.txt | 02:20 |
Nairwolf | Thank nhaines ;) | 02:20 |
Roguehorse | TY | 02:20 |
Nairwolf | I have a personnal question. You're not obliged to answer. It just curiosity. | 02:26 |
Nairwolf | Are you engaged with some project with Ubuntu, as developper, QA team, or communication ? Or just users and support ? | 02:27 |
Nairwolf | "Just" doesn't mean that it's less important. | 02:27 |
pleia2 | gosh, ahoneybun (Florida LoCo, Kubuntu) is telling me he wants to do a Werewolf themed release party for 15.10 | 02:27 |
nhaines | Are you asking me specifically? | 02:28 |
nhaines | akk: howdy! :) | 02:28 |
pleia2 | so I'm googling werewolf parties, and oh my gosh, so jealous, I want to do it too, but will be in Japan for release time | 02:28 |
akk | hi nhaines! | 02:28 |
pleia2 | so someone else should do this, because it's the best idea ever | 02:28 |
nhaines | akk: I have to start my second draft for my book tomorrow. I'm trying not to think about it! :) | 02:28 |
nhaines | pleia2: haha | 02:28 |
* akk has been outside transfixed watching a bat hunting, sometimes flying within a foot of my head | 02:28 | |
Nairwolf | nhaines : not for you specifically | 02:28 |
akk | nhaines: Second draft is way easier than the first ... it'll be fun! | 02:29 |
nhaines | akk: that's what I keep telling my editors and also myself. :) | 02:29 |
akk | Werewolf parties sound fun. | 02:29 |
akk | Though the page I found didn't mention what I think would be the most fun -- the sing (howl)-along. | 02:30 |
nhaines | Luckily, I had a 77k word novel to edit this week so I didn't have to feel guilty about ignoring my book until Monday. | 02:30 |
* akk doesn't have a deep enough voice to do a credible wolf, but I could be a great coyote | 02:30 | |
pleia2 | hehe | 02:30 |
Nairwolf | pleia2 : Are you talking about this french game ? https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Loups-garous_de_Thiercelieux#Extension_n.C2.B0_1_:_Les_Loups-garous_de_Thiercelieux_-_Nouvelle_lune | 02:30 |
darthrobot | Title: [Les Loups-garous de Thiercelieux — Wikipédia] | 02:30 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: no, I'm talking about the next Ubuntu release being called Wily Werewolf so Halloween-timed release parties that are werewolf themed sounds fun | 02:31 |
* pleia2 just googled for "werewolf birthday party" | 02:31 | |
Nairwolf | yes, that sounds cool ;) | 02:32 |
DonkeyHotei | Wily Nairwolf | 02:33 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: re: developer, I used to maintain some Debian packages (which end up in Ubuntu), but I really do that anymore, some QA for Xubuntu (and I run the social media accounts for Xubuntu), and probably other things I forget | 02:33 |
pleia2 | oh, I publish the ubuntu weekly newsletter most weeks | 02:33 |
Nairwolf | you're doing a lot of things pleia2 ;) | 02:34 |
pleia2 | true story | 02:35 |
nhaines | I'm a leader of the California LoCo (which means I make it easier for other people to do things), I'm on the LoCo Council (same) and I do presentations and run booths from time to time. | 02:35 |
nhaines | pleia2: +1 | 02:35 |
Nairwolf | I'm interested by Xubuntu as I use it ;) | 02:35 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: yay :) | 02:35 |
pleia2 | we need more folks testing ISOs, the QA lead for the project just sent an email about it today https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-August/010848.html | 02:35 |
darthrobot | Title: [Daily Image Testing] | 02:35 |
Nairwolf | nhaines : Nice ;) But, it's true that you have already made a presentation for me ;) | 02:35 |
Nairwolf | I'll check that | 02:36 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: feel free to join #xubuntu-devel at any time, tell them I sent you if they give you any trouble ;) | 02:36 |
Nairwolf | I like also the Lubuntu family because it's this family which welcomed me to the FOSS world. But, it's true that I would prefer to help for something I use every day. | 02:36 |
pleia2 | but they should be helpful if you're trying to do testing | 02:37 |
Nairwolf | It's also easier to test because you know the system | 02:37 |
* pleia2 nods | 02:37 | |
pleia2 | you know what is supposed to be happening | 02:37 |
Nairwolf | even if I'm more interesting by development, I don't have a good level yet, I'm still learning | 02:37 |
pleia2 | woo, my husband is over ecuador! | 02:37 |
* pleia2 watches flightaware | 02:38 | |
nhaines | Yay! | 02:38 |
akk | You're such a globe-trotting family! | 02:39 |
Nairwolf | ^^ | 02:39 |
pleia2 | akk: this year is a big one for us, in Peru now, going to Japan in October (both my conferences that he's tagging along after/before to do touristing) | 02:40 |
akk | Both of those sound like such wonderful places to see! | 02:41 |
Nairwolf | ok, I'll do that | 02:41 |
* akk has several friends in Peru now, doing Machu Pichu and I know I'm missing a letter in there somewhere | 02:41 | |
Nairwolf | Tonight, I have to work for a personnal project, so... | 02:41 |
pleia2 | yeah, I've wanted to come to Peru since I was a kid (our land lord growing up was from Peru, meeting up with one of his daughters who I went to school with and now lives here tomorrow) | 02:41 |
Nairwolf | But, I should do that this week | 02:41 |
pleia2 | akk: nice! we're doing 2 days in Lima, 2 days in Cusco and 2 days in Machu Picchu | 02:42 |
pleia2 | I've been here in Lima since Thursday though, for UbuCon Latin America | 02:42 |
Nairwolf | pleia2 : In which language do you develop ? | 02:42 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: I'm a systems administrator, so I write decent bash and marginal Perl and Python | 02:43 |
akk | pleia2: How is the conference as an English speaker? Or is your Spanish good? | 02:43 |
pleia2 | akk: well, my keynote was the only English talk, but most people seemed to understand (and my slides were bi-lingual) | 02:43 |
akk | Oh, bilingual slides are a great idea. | 02:44 |
akk | I never thought about how much that would help. | 02:44 |
pleia2 | slides, context and my weak spanish skills got me through the rest of the conference | 02:44 |
pleia2 | I didn't understand everything, but I could loosely follow along with most talks | 02:44 |
pleia2 | there were a couple speakers whose spanish I struggled with | 02:44 |
pleia2 | (I think because of accents, one was from Brazil and the other from Belgium) | 02:45 |
akk | Even in Australia, I noticed a big difference in how well I followed speakers' accents. | 02:45 |
nhaines | pleia2: someone asked me to talk at Ubucon Germany next year in German. I said I would do it if I had a teleprompter! ;) | 02:45 |
pleia2 | nhaines: hehe | 02:45 |
akk | The experienced speakers in the main conference, I never had a problem; beginner speakers from .au speaking in the miniconfs, sometimes I could barely understand a word. | 02:45 |
Nairwolf | pleia2 : that's nice. I have some experiences with Python | 02:45 |
pleia2 | it was actually easier to understand the presentations then it was conversations at dinner and things, I think without context and a more conversational format I am not as good at understanding | 02:46 |
akk | I try to understand people's Spanish here and mostly fail utterly, but of course they're chattering to each other and not giving a technical talk with slides. :) | 02:46 |
pleia2 | oh, and some presenters speak quickly | 02:47 |
pleia2 | which is really hard, since normal pace sounds fast to me :) | 02:47 |
Nairwolf | spanish people speaks really fast ;) | 02:47 |
akk | I find that especially hard in Spanish -- it always sounds so fast. | 02:47 |
akk | In English in Australia, speed wasn't an issue -- dunno if you've ever heard Pia Waugh, but she has a clock rate about 3x most people's, and speaks that way | 02:48 |
akk | but she's a very experienced speaker and I never had any trouble understanding her. | 02:48 |
DonkeyHotei | according to someone in sf-lug from south america, speaking slowly = sarcastic/patronizing | 02:49 |
pleia2 | ah, no, haven't seen her speak | 02:49 |
pleia2 | I could probably use some patronizing :) | 02:49 |
akk | Me too. :) | 02:50 |
pleia2 | it was fun though, I could show off my command of spanish nouns | 02:50 |
Nairwolf | pleia2 : There is something i don't understand in the mail. Xubuntu 15.10 is supposed to be supported for 3 years ? | 02:51 |
Nairwolf | it's a non-lts version ! | 02:51 |
akk | I like the nouns. Verbs give me fits. | 02:51 |
pleia2 | "that fruit... manzana!" and at dinner we saw a cat "un gato!" | 02:51 |
pleia2 | they all thought I was terribly amusing :) | 02:51 |
akk | lol | 02:51 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: it may be worded poorly, but it's talking about 16.04 "XX" when talking about 3 years | 02:52 |
Nairwolf | ok, my english sucks ;) | 02:52 |
pleia2 | I had to read the XX bit of the email twice too, then I realized oh... X comes after W, the LTS will be Xenolithic Xoloitzcuintle | 02:53 |
pleia2 | or maybe Mark will skip a letter :) | 02:53 |
pleia2 | (just kidding about the name, he hasn't announced it) | 02:54 |
pleia2 | but now I kind of want a Xoloitzcuintle | 02:54 |
DonkeyHotei | i have no idea what that is | 02:54 |
pleia2 | mexican hairless dog | 02:55 |
pleia2 | google shows me pictures | 02:55 |
Nairwolf | Oh, that's why it's writen XX ;) | 02:55 |
pleia2 | Nairwolf: right! | 02:55 |
akk | pleia2: I had pound puppies growing up that we were pretty sure were mostly Xolos. | 02:55 |
pleia2 | akk: aw, neat | 02:55 |
akk | The woman we got them from said they were Chinese Crested, but they didn't look anything like cresteds | 02:55 |
pleia2 | hah | 02:55 |
akk | and then we saw a photo of a xolo somewhere it and looked exactly like our male dog | 02:56 |
akk | (his sister was much weirder). | 02:56 |
akk | I can't remember if I scanned in any of those old photos ... | 02:56 |
* akk looks | 02:56 | |
DonkeyHotei | i'm not sure Xenolithic is even a word | 02:56 |
akk | Darn, no photos scanned in. I need to do that some time. | 02:57 |
pleia2 | DonkeyHotei: rock-like? | 02:58 |
pleia2 | :) | 02:58 |
pleia2 | I dunno, I just pulled two words off https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#X | 02:58 |
darthrobot | Title: [DevelopmentCodeNames - Ubuntu Wiki] | 02:58 |
akk | pleia2: If you do ever get a xolo, get used to questions like "Did he have the mange?" and "He looks like an elephant!" | 02:59 |
pleia2 | akk: haha, oh boy | 03:00 |
pleia2 | do you need to put lotion on them or something? | 03:00 |
akk | We very rarely did. His skin was pretty rough but it didn't ever crack or anything. | 03:01 |
pleia2 | we'll likely end up with a more standard american family dog, I think my husband wants a lab or retriever | 03:01 |
akk | And we tried putting sweaters on him in winter but he was so active he got them balled up around his shoulders right away, and we gave up. | 03:01 |
pleia2 | I still want an adopted greyhound for real though <3 | 03:01 |
pleia2 | haha | 03:01 |
akk | Greyhounds are so beautiful. | 03:01 |
pleia2 | yeah | 03:01 |
akk | I like smart dogs, so I'd probably go for a border collie, Australian shepherd or Siberian husky or something like that if I got one. | 03:02 |
pleia2 | my best friend growing up had one, she was very sweet and afraid of the cat | 03:02 |
akk | (Except I'd probably get a shelter dog, so it wouldn't be a purebred anything.) | 03:02 |
pleia2 | I do love border collies | 03:03 |
pleia2 | I'm really a cat person though | 03:03 |
pleia2 | dogs are a lot of work and smell like dogs | 03:03 |
akk | I don't have the option of being a cat person -- allergic. | 03:03 |
pleia2 | ah, yeah | 03:03 |
akk | Not to all cats, but more to adults than to kittens so it would be too risky to get a cat and maybe become allergic later. | 03:04 |
* pleia2 nods | 03:04 | |
akk | Allergies are actually why we got a hairless dog when I was a kid | 03:04 |
akk | though I'm almost never allergic to dogs even when they have fur, so it didn't really matter. | 03:04 |
akk | My mom was worried about it, though. | 03:04 |
pleia2 | yeah | 03:05 |
akk | Then we got his sister a little later, and she had (patchy) hair. | 03:05 |
pleia2 | I had cats when I was little, but then we moved to a house where we couldn't have uncaged pets | 03:06 |
pleia2 | so much sad | 03:06 |
pleia2 | but I had quite the caged menagerie | 03:07 |
akk | That is sad! | 03:07 |
akk | But good that you were able to have animals, even if caged. | 03:07 |
pleia2 | chinchillas were my favorite | 03:07 |
pleia2 | and now I am in the land of the chinchillas! | 03:07 |
pleia2 | (and llamas) | 03:08 |
akk | Oh wow, that's an exotic pet. Do they make good pets? | 03:08 |
akk | I guess so if they were your fave. | 03:08 |
pleia2 | they do, bouncy and partially litter trainable (can keep them out of their cage for a while, like rabbits) | 03:08 |
akk | How fun! They're certainly cute. | 03:08 |
akk | (In photos ... I've never seen one IRL.) | 03:08 |
pleia2 | petco often has them | 03:08 |
pleia2 | I got really into them as a teen, there were breeders around Maine and we ended up with all the colors they come in | 03:09 |
pleia2 | http://princessleia.com/chinchillas.php | 03:09 |
akk | I don't think the one in Campbell ever did, or maybe I just didn't go to the right part of the store. | 03:09 |
darthrobot | Title: [PrincessLeia.com - Chinchillas] | 03:09 |
pleia2 | my first one had seizures :( | 03:09 |
akk | So cute! I didn't even know they came in colors. :( for the seizures though. | 03:10 |
nhaines | pleia2: do you know why cats aren't called "llamas"? | 03:10 |
pleia2 | nhaines: haha, tell me | 03:10 |
nhaines | Because they never come when you call them anyway. | 03:10 |
pleia2 | oh! haha! | 03:10 |
pleia2 | spanish jokes | 03:10 |
pleia2 | :) | 03:11 |
DonkeyHotei | my cat did | 03:11 |
akk | haha | 03:11 |
DonkeyHotei | i miss him | 03:11 |
nhaines | My cat looks at me like "really?" | 03:11 |
pleia2 | well yeah, my siamese does, my mau will when he feels like it | 03:11 |
nhaines | Although if I wiggle my finger and click at him he'll usually come over for a quick pat. | 03:11 |
pleia2 | I haven't seen a llama yet, I complained to jose ;) | 03:12 |
jose | hey, you saw one on my phone! | 03:12 |
pleia2 | jose: I think maybe I will see one tomorrow in miraflores, right? | 03:12 |
pleia2 | haha | 03:12 |
pleia2 | or else, cusco :) | 03:12 |
jose | oh, you're gonna see flowers in moraflores | 03:12 |
jose | miraflores* | 03:13 |
pleia2 | they're taking us to see the ocean too | 03:13 |
jose | you're going to larcomar? huaca pucllana? | 03:13 |
akk | I've seen llamas in the bay area! (There's a house that keeps them next to one of the trails at Los Trancos.) | 03:13 |
DonkeyHotei | but ocean you could see here | 03:13 |
pleia2 | jose: this is the trip we booked http://www.viator.com/tours/Lima/7-Day-Lima-and-Cusco-Tour-with-Overnight-at-Machu-Picchu/d928-5243MPSUN | 03:14 |
pleia2 | scroll down a bit for Itinerary | 03:14 |
darthrobot | Error opening URL: timed out | 03:14 |
jose | lol | 03:14 |
pleia2 | s/airport/my hotel :) | 03:14 |
* jose checks | 03:14 | |
pleia2 | "You'll also see “Huaca Pucllana” which is also located in Miraflores." | 03:14 |
pleia2 | ah, thre we go :) | 03:14 |
jose | pleia2: did you claim your welcome drink at the hotel? | 03:15 |
pleia2 | yep | 03:15 |
pleia2 | well, I claimed the ticket | 03:15 |
jose | oh cool | 03:15 |
pleia2 | not the actual drink, because travel dehydration :\ | 03:15 |
jose | yeah, that's cool | 03:15 |
pleia2 | but now I kind of want to wait until mjoseph gets here to have my first pisco sour | 03:15 |
pleia2 | (his plane is over peru now!) | 03:16 |
jose | woot woot! | 03:16 |
jose | personal recommendation when you get to cusco | 03:16 |
jose | sleep sleep sleep sleep sleep | 03:16 |
jose | it helps to get used to the altitude | 03:16 |
Nairwolf | Ok, guys, I come back to my vimtutor ;) | 03:16 |
pleia2 | haha, yeah, the Canonical guys were telling me their stories about dying from altitude | 03:16 |
jose | hehe | 03:17 |
pleia2 | "we thought we were ok, then we walked a block and went back to the hotel for a nap" | 03:17 |
jose | yeah, since you have less oxygen you get tired REALLY quickly! | 03:17 |
jose | happened to me too | 03:17 |
* pleia2 nods | 03:18 | |
akk | pfft, Lima isn't even as high as my house. :) | 03:18 |
akk | (We did take a while before we could hike here without getting lightheaded) | 03:19 |
pleia2 | akk: not lima, cusco | 03:19 |
akk | Ah! Now that's high. | 03:19 |
pleia2 | cusco is 11,000 feet | 03:19 |
DonkeyHotei | don't they use meters? | 03:19 |
pleia2 | DonkeyHotei: yes, but I don't | 03:19 |
akk | And she knows I don't either. :) | 03:19 |
akk | (Though I do have /usr/bin/units) | 03:20 |
pleia2 | hehe | 03:20 |
nhaines | ianorlin: can you do the post meeting stuff this week? Tomorrow, maybe? | 06:00 |
ianorlin | nhaines: yes I should | 06:23 |
nhaines | ianorlin: thanks! Let me know by Wednesday if you haven't gotten to it, and I'll set aside some time. | 06:24 |
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