[00:00] <aruns> EriC^^, OerHeks : sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq ntop > output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12044612/
[00:01] <daftykins> SolarNRG: no, you don't know how to use it is all.
[00:01] <OerHeks> it is all part of the security-network-auth, maybe you cannot even ping your host.
[00:01] <SolarNRG> daftykins: ok in debian I go su, it asks me for a password bam, I'm superuser I can do whatever I want
[00:02] <daftykins> yeah, same with ubuntu and Mint - only "sudo -i" instead
[00:02] <SolarNRG> in mint I go su it asks me for a password but I never had the chance to set it
[00:02] <OerHeks> SolarNRG, the ubuntu way is: sudo -i # for that terminal session only.
[00:02] <daftykins> SolarNRG: so i would recommend that you do some reading to understand how to use it, instead of just kicking up a big fuss claiming these paranoid ideas.
[00:02] <daftykins> you do not use 'su' on ubuntu and its' derivatives.
[00:02] <SolarNRG> when i install ubuntu, will i get the option to set my own root password?
[00:02] <daftykins> no because it's not designed to be used with a root password.
[00:03] <OerHeks> no, that is answered already with the urls
[00:03] <SolarNRG> so is sudo -i the same thing as su in debian?
[00:03] <daftykins> no
[00:03] <SolarNRG> what's the difference?
[00:03] <daftykins> you need to do some reading up on sudo :)
[00:04] <aruns> Is reinstallation of ubuntu only solution left
[00:04] <xangua> SolarNRG: please read what the bot said already up
[00:04] <aruns> Does any way can fix this problem
[00:04] <EriC^^> aruns: try sudo dpkg --remove --force-all ntop
[00:04] <LizardmanSC> SolarNRG is it easy to remove though?
[00:05] <SolarNRG> LizardmanSC: if you don't mind formatting your hard drive and losing your data, no it's very easy
[00:05] <SolarNRG> what os are you using currently?
[00:05] <LizardmanSC> I'd only partition it :3
[00:05] <LizardmanSC> I'm windows 8.1
[00:07] <aruns> EriC^^, sudo dpkg --remove --force-all ntop > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12044642/
[00:07] <daftykins> LizardmanSC: you could just try ubuntu from a flash drive to start with, no reason to install immediately
[00:07] <OerHeks> aruns, is that service still running? sudo service ntop stop
[00:08] <SolarNRG> is it hard to split partition an ntfs file system so some of the disk is ext4?
[00:08] <daftykins> SolarNRG: resize it from Windows
[00:08] <EriC^^> aruns: also try sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/atftpd.*
[00:08] <aruns> sudo service ntop stop
[00:08] <aruns> /etc/init.d/ntop: 3: /var/lib/ntop/init.cfg: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[00:08] <SolarNRG> might be smart to do a defrag on windows first
[00:09] <LEO037> Hi, I have a problem. I'm trying to install the latest version of ubuntu via usb, but when I select and choose install, the pc restart and everything starts over. Someone had the same problem and know how to solve it? (hope I don't disturb)
[00:09] <EriC^^> aruns: sorry, sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/ntop.*
[00:09] <EriC^^> ignore the previous command
[00:10] <daftykins> LEO037: hash your download and remake your flash drive, it could be bad.
[00:10] <LEO037> thanks, I'll try immediatly
[00:10] <daftykins> !md5
[00:10] <daftykins> LEO037: see above
[00:11] <aruns> EriC^^: it worked, Voila !!
[00:11] <xpistos> Hey all. If I know that a given password is correct for my wireless but a new ubuntu install will not connect to that router, what else might I look at?
[00:11] <aruns> But is there any way to get unity and gnome back
[00:11] <xpistos> I am on one laptop and connected but this new install won't connect. They both connect to the teathering app for my phone
[00:11] <EriC^^> aruns: ok, type cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:11] <xpistos> this install is 14.04.3
[00:12] <daftykins> xpistos: wireless channel and WPA1 vs. 2, AES vs. TKIP
[00:12] <daftykins> the usual
[00:13] <aruns> EriC^^:cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:13] <aruns> http://termbin.com/6t6r
[00:13] <xpistos> WPA2 AES
[00:13] <xpistos> and I have g only
[00:13] <daftykins> xpistos: yeah so change it to experiment is what i'm saying.
[00:15] <xpistos1> could there be something wrong with the actual install itself as well?
[00:15] <EriC^^> aruns: type wget -O ~/packages http://termbin.com/5z5c
[00:16] <EriC^^> aruns: then type xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[00:16] <EriC^^> aruns: wait, copy and paste the packages from the above termbin
[00:16] <EriC^^> it might contain html
[00:17] <EriC^^> ah it doesn't, you can use wget
[00:19] <daftykins> xpistos1: yes bad wifi driver perhaps. read your logs as to why it fails to connect.
[00:19] <aruns> EriC^^,  can you retype the 4th last command in our conversation, I cant scroll back
[00:20] <EriC^^> aruns: wget -O ~/packages http://termbin.com/5z5c && xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[00:21] <aruns> EriC^^ : Thanks
[00:22] <LEO037> I think I love you all, thanks.
[00:23] <aruns> EriC^^ : Read output > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12044719/
[00:23] <EriC^^> aruns: oh, it downloaded it with the html, it didn't on my pc
[00:24] <finetundra_> hi folks, I'm having an issue where my internet stuff isn't starting at boot. Anyone know what's up?
[00:24] <daftykins> still nice and vague finetundra_ :) is this a desktop install?
[00:24] <EriC^^> aruns: type nano ~/packages, and go to http://termbin.com/5z5c and copy and paste the packages there, then type xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[00:24] <finetundra_> daftykins: laptop. Sorry for being vague.
[00:24] <marco_> ubuntu misdetects my headphones and i only get audio on left channel. How do i change that?
[00:25] <aruns> EriC^^: Okay, but i dont understand its relevance still
[00:25] <daftykins> finetundra_: yeah but ubuntu desktop?
[00:25] <daftykins> GUI etc
[00:25] <finetundra_> daftykins: KDE
[00:25] <daftykins> ok so kubuntu desktop
[00:25] <EriC^^> aruns: ctrl+a to select all, shift+ctrl+v to paste, ctrl+o to save
[00:25] <finetundra_> daftykins: yeah
[00:25] <finetundra_> I guess
[00:25] <EriC^^> aruns: those are the packages that got removed with python
[00:25] <bratchley> is there a way to resize my Ubuntu install? I want to try to dual boot with a different distro alongside but when I setup Ubuntu I used the whole HDD
[00:25] <finetundra_> It's on a laptop thhough
[00:25] <daftykins> finetundra_: do you have your network manager icon?
[00:26] <daftykins> lol that doesn't matter.
[00:26] <finetundra_> yeah
[00:26] <Melio> bratchley, of course, you can run gparted and move stuff around
[00:26] <aruns> EriC^^ : okay , WOnderful
[00:26] <bratchley> Melio: do I have to boot from DVD or something?
[00:26] <Melio> typically yes
[00:26] <daftykins> finetundra_: so what happens when you try to look at available wireless networks, or plug a network cable in and make use of it?
[00:26] <Melio> but if you are installing to dual boot. windows goes on first. then linux
[00:27] <finetundra_> daftykins: nothing. Doesn't detect anything
[00:27] <Melio> and make sure you plan your partitions ahead of time because it makes for less work
[00:27] <finetundra_> I asked in the kubuntu chat the other day and was told to run sudo modprobe iwlwifi, but that's only good till reboot
[00:28] <daftykins> finetundra_: alright but it *does* work?
[00:28] <finetundra_> daftykins: after the command yeah
[00:28] <daftykins> finetundra_: ok so put iwlwifi on its' own line in /etc/modules and it'll load on each boot.
[00:29] <OerHeks> bratchley, yes, boot the live iso and use gparted.
[00:32] <marco_> i only get sound on the left channel when using headphones. how do i fix that?
[00:32] <finetundra_> daftykins: ok, that worked.
[00:32] <aruns> EriC^^: But the problem is termbin.com is banned by Indian government, Hence can you use pastebin to copy content of termbin.com
[00:32] <finetundra_> but now I'm curious, how did this happen in the first place?
[00:32] <daftykins> finetundra_: no idea.
[00:33] <daftykins> your machine sounds crazy
[00:33] <finetundra_> daftykins: sounds about right
[00:33] <finetundra_> probably is at this point
[00:33] <daftykins> perhaps you're running a non-standard kernel?
[00:33] <EriC^^> aruns: sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12044776/
[00:34] <avilba> Hello everyone, I am looking for a way to disable my laptop keyboard with a simple command line. The reason for this is that I have a convertible laptop, which screen can be folded 360 in "tablet mode", and the keyboard becomes very annoying, then... I would consider any option, like setting a fake keyboard display and calling it with setxkbmap. Any ideas ?
[00:34] <aruns> EriC^^: Thanx for special effort
[00:34] <finetundra_> daftykins: kernel is 3.13.0-58-generic
[00:34] <EriC^^> aruns: this is better http://pastebin.com/JAc5mCQ2
[00:34] <EriC^^> it's easier to copy
[00:34] <daftykins> finetundra_: hmm so close to being up to date
[00:34] <daftykins> i'm on -61 here
[00:36] <finetundra_> daftykins: I don't see a kernel update listed in the software updater
[00:36] <EriC^^> avilba: xinput can disable it
[00:36] <daftykins> use dist-upgrade from the terminal
[00:37] <finetundra_> daftykins: that would run an upgrade no?
[00:37] <FearDread> Greetings ubuntu
[00:37] <finetundra_> to a different version such as 15.04
[00:37] <finetundra_> ?
[00:37] <daftykins> finetundra_: no.
[00:37] <FearDread> Anyone know solution to fixing a missing /sbin/init file
[00:37] <daftykins> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:37] <FearDread> ?
[00:37] <avilba> EriC^^: thanks, I'll have a look there
[00:37] <FearDread> this is my last hope as im looking at hardware failure
[00:37] <compdoc> FearDread, where did it come from?
[00:38] <finetundra_> daftykins: command not found
[00:38] <FearDread> @ compdoc on boot
[00:38] <xpistos> Ok well using the 14.04.3 usb didn't connect wither so. could there be something else? like daftykins said maybe 14.04.3 only uses a version of WPA my router doesn't like?
[00:38] <FearDread> even when booting into recovery it gives me missing /sbin/init error
[00:38] <compdoc> its an ubuntu system file?
[00:38] <FearDread> aye
[00:38] <compdoc> can you boot the live dvd?
[00:38] <FearDread> belive ubunut uses the init file for startup scripts
[00:38] <FearDread> aye
[00:38] <daftykins> xpistos: no, not the OS - the *driver* for your wireless card
[00:39] <compdoc> what dose SMART say about the drive?
[00:39] <FearDread> ran fsck on the enitre partition and fixed all blocks and inodes with errors
[00:39] <compdoc> does
[00:39] <FearDread> even mounted the partition and copied the /sbin/init file from the live cd
[00:39] <EriC^^> FearDread: it's a part of upstart
[00:39] <FearDread> correct
[00:39] <daftykins> FearDread: boot a live session and share the SMART info from your disk.
[00:39] <xpistos> daftykins: I had 12.04 installed on it first and that worked with the proprietary driver
[00:39] <xpistos> daftykins: I am checking what this one is
[00:40] <daftykins> that's nice
[00:41] <FearDread> I ran SMART disk util and its reporting iminent harddisk failure, but not sure how thats possible with a WD white label hardrive thats not even 4 years old.  Its probably just a failing disk, wanted to tripple check though lol
[00:42] <FearDread> is there an option in the fsck command to force all rewrites, meaning i dont want to manually hit "yes" everytime
[00:42] <FearDread> it asks for a rewite
[00:42] <FearDread> rewrite ^
[00:43] <daftykins> FearDread: boot a live session and come back.
[00:43] <daftykins> FearDread: attempting an fsck on a drive in that state is utterly silly
[00:44] <daftykins> in fact i'd use stronger words to describe what that action is, in normal circumstances
[00:44] <FearDread> im on different computer, but im pretty sure the drive is just going bad, thanx guys
[00:44] <FearDread> time to replace my HD, sigh* what a pain in the butt
[00:44] <daftykins> so show the smartctl output
[00:44] <daftykins> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[00:45] <daftykins> no point running fsck at all
[00:45] <compdoc> its probably   /dev/sda
[00:45] <daftykins> of course it probably is.
[00:46] <xpistos> daftykins: Ok. It says I am using a prop driver "Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source from bmcwl-kernel-source (proprietary). the other option is do not use this device, but then it has now wireless option.
[00:46] <daftykins> xpistos: and what model of broadcom is it?
[00:47] <xpistos> daftykins: have to check it. One second. It is in a lenovo twist s230u
[00:47] <daftykins> check with lspci
[00:48] <xpistos> daftykins: Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n
[00:49] <daftykins> !broadcom | xpistos ok go nuts...
[00:49] <xpistos> daftykins: LOL. Thanks!
[00:49] <daftykins> but bear in mind it sounds like you didn't even try changing channel
[00:49] <daftykins> try 1, 6 or 11.
[00:49] <xpistos> I did
[00:49] <xpistos> no luck there
[00:49] <xpistos> I usually use 11 but tried 1, 6 and 9
[00:50] <daftykins> ok.
[00:51] <xpistos> daftykins: now I need to find it for a 14.04 system
[00:51] <daftykins> xpistos: ok you can stop keeping me updated now
[00:51] <avilba> I am trying to play with xinput, but I have trouble sorting out which device is my laptop keyboard... Can anyone help me read this : http://pastebin.com/t3awbaUN ? Thanks !
[00:52] <EriC^^> avilba: try xinput --disable "Virtual core keyboard"
[00:53] <avilba> Oh ok this one then. Thanks. I'll try to figure out a way to put it back on before trying to disable it !
[00:53] <EriC^^> or xinput --disable "Virtual core XTEST keyboard"
[00:56] <EriC^^> avilba: make a .desktop file and +x it
[00:56] <EriC^^> with Exec=xinput --enable "Virtual core XTEST keyboard"
[00:56] <EriC^^> so you can double click it to execute it
[00:57] <avilba> Ok cool thank you for that.
[00:57] <EriC^^> use /usr/share/applications to get a template
[00:58] <EriC^^> np
[01:06] <avilba> EriC^^ : when I try to disable the KB, xinput tells me "X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)". I guess that means I should use sudo, but what about my .desktop file to turn it on ? Is it gonna ask for my password as well ?
[01:08] <EriC^^> avilba: that's odd
[01:09] <avilba> EriC^^, I tried 'xinput --disable "Virtual core XTEST keyboard"'
[01:09] <EriC^^> it doesn't work here either, i guess you have to go about it differently, i've only used it with the touchpad
[01:10] <EriC^^> avilba: try xinput --disable "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"
[01:10] <ubuntu-mate> jemand aus deutschland da
[01:11] <avilba> EriC^^, Perfect ! You got it. Thanks a lot.
[01:13] <shifty36> what up
[01:16] <EriC^^> avilba: great, no problem!
[01:17] <analreap> Hello
[01:22] <halnex> hello
[01:22] <gott3rfunk3n83> Hey
[01:22] <halnex> oh hey
[01:22] <halnex> don't mind me, just figuring out which font to use
[01:22] <halnex> any suggestions?
[01:23] <gott3rfunk3n83> Arial
[01:24] <halnex> no Arial in xchat
[01:24] <halnex> I'm gonna settle with Droid Sans 11 for now
[01:24] <Bashing-om> halnex: There is a channel for that purpose ' /join #test ' .
[01:25] <hggdh> byobu
[01:34] <ronnel> I can't boot with Live USB anymore. Before, I was able to test drive distros, and managed to settle with Xubuntu Trusty. After some time, when I decided to test Kubuntu Vivid out, it just goes to a black screen / the monitor is off. I've tried other distros (Kubuntu Trusty, Manjaro), same result. I tried the original ISO I used to install Xubuntu Trusty before, but unfortunately, same thing happens. Why can I no longer use LiveUSBs?
[01:35] <daftykins> you're either making them up wrong, or you need to boot with nomodeset
[01:35] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[01:35] <viswanath> hi
[01:36] <artois> hi vis
[01:37] <ronnel> I tried nomodeset, acpi=off, basically those boot options. It goes to a terminal asking for login, but when I try to "startx", it can't connect to X Server. Tried Ctrl+Alt+F7, it shows up a blank.
[01:37] <daftykins> ronnel: yeah you're definitely making up the drive wrong, or it's damaged.
[01:37] <daftykins> or your downloads are corrupt
[01:38] <daftykins> OR your systems RAM is a little funky :)
[01:40] <ronnel> The weird thing is why can't I live boot with the original ISO I used to install Xubuntu in my netbook. Yes, my netbook's slow (HP Mini 1000) and Win7 sucks so I switched to Linux. I tried VirtualBox, it boots though, it goes to the Try/Install option. (But wasn't able to get past that since VirtualBox is killing my resources).
[01:40] <daftykins> virtualbox is nowhere near the same as booting natively
[01:41] <daftykins> it may be the same ISO, but it's not the same exact state of flash drive since you say you keep distro hopping
[01:41] <daftykins> so maybe zero the drive and try again, dd'ing the ISO on
[01:41] <daftykins> beyond that, try the things i've suggested
[01:41] <daftykins> you're not going to make any progress just blindly asking why.
[01:43] <knight2> hi bro
[01:43] <aruns> How to copy from clipboard and paste into Nano editor? /// I tried, (shift+insert )but its not working
[01:43] <ronnel> Oh, I've tried different LiveUSB Creators, like, Startup Disk Creator, Universal USB Installer, Rufus, UNetBootin, mkusb, even Super Grub Disk 2.
[01:44] <daftykins> ronnel: and what about 'dd' like i said? :)
[01:44] <ronnel> I may have to try it on other computers, haven't done this yet.
[01:44] <daftykins> yes that would be good
[01:45] <aruns> How to copy from clipboard and paste into Nano editor? /// I tried, (shift+insert )but its not working
[01:45] <daftykins> !repeat | aruns
[01:45] <daftykins> right click in it.
[01:46] <ronnel> The 'dd', no not yet (I am kind of like a newbie even though I've been on linux for, maybe a year). Thanks so much daftykins!
[01:46] <OerHeks> aruns, ctrl-G for all the options
[01:47] <OerHeks> ctrl +u on most nano systems
[01:48] <aruns> I did ctrl-g and tried ctrl-u, I am exhausted with options given there, i dont know why its not working
[01:49] <ronnel> @Arun, try Shift+Ctrl+V
[01:49] <django_> Hello
[01:50] <aruns> ronnel: Yes this worked ! Thanks
[01:50] <aruns> Sometime small things become so hard even after knowing all basics.
[01:50] <daftykins> aruns: was this inside gnome-terminal?
[01:51] <aruns> daftykins :terminator
[01:51] <daftykins> so looking at the shortcuts on the edit menu would've worked perhaps
[01:52] <aruns> daftykins: I tried almost everything known to me, basic commands, forums and google ; Asking here after doing homework
[01:53] <daftykins> if you say so
[01:53] <BotchlaOffUrself> BotchlaB YOU PIECE OF SHIT
[01:53] <BotchlaOffUrself> YOU COCKSUCKER
[01:53] <reggie_> wth
[01:53] <BotchlaOffUrself> I AM GOING TO MAKE U FUCKING KILL URSELF
[01:53] <aruns> sometime things are strange, Don't have  reasons to explain it
[01:53] <BotchlaOffUrself> I WILL HAVE UR LIFE
[01:53] <BotchlaOffUrself> DO U FUCKING UNDERSTAND ME
[01:57] <BotchlaOffUrself> BotchlaB THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM HONEY DO NOT DARE IGNORE HER DO NOT DARE DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. U WILL DIE SOON AND NOBODY WILL FUCKING MISS U DO UNDERSTAND ME YOU DOG CUNT
[01:58] <BotchlaOffUrself> YOU PIECE OF SHIT
[01:58] <BotchlaOffUrself> BotchlaB THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM HONEY DO NOT DARE IGNORE HER DO NOT DARE DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. U WILL DIE SOON AND NOBODY WILL FUCKING MISS U DO UNDERSTAND ME YOU DOG CUNT
[02:03] <Walkerdine> Well that was interesting
[02:06] <GeekMan1222> anyone familiar with ssh-keygen
[02:06] <GeekMan1222> i cant get it to work right
[02:06] <daftykins> !details
[02:10] <smacktalk> does anyone know how to add a directory to the path statement?
[02:11] <smacktalk> I'm really confused by the documentation on this...one says to use .profile another .bashrc...
[02:11] <GeekMan1222> ok then; My server is setup with an rsync command that is used to copy data from my server to a local NAS drive and i need to use ssh rsa keys to run the command without using a password for the remote side. I can make the keys fine but i need help with what to do with the id_rsa.pub key after cause i try following guides online but they wont work right so i know im doing it wrong. Thanks
[02:11] <GeekMan1222> and i used to have this setup working right in the past but my domains got changed
[02:13] <aruns> EriC^^:xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/
[02:14] <GeekMan1222> Also i use this scp command to copy my id_rsa.pub to my server and it works but ... it appears the keys are not working. "root@xxxx:~/.ssh# scp root@xxxx:/root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ."
[02:15] <GeekMan1222>  guides i followed  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-generating-rsa-keys/    http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Use-RSA-Key-for-SSH-Authentication-38599.shtml
[02:15] <helpmeforfree> I installed ubuntu and it still doing the freeze up
[02:16] <helpmeforfree> Is my computer not compatible with ubuntu or something?
[02:16] <daftykins> 'the freeze up' isn't quite as detailed an explanation as is useful
[02:17] <daftykins> also, i find your nickname offensive
[02:18] <valmir> caraca quanto tempo não uso este chat.
[02:19] <wileee> valmir, You speak english?
[02:19] <valmir> n
[02:19] <valmir> ashuashuashua
[02:19] <magnetik_> Hi, I get no video when resuming from suspend on 14.04
[02:20] <syntroPi> how can i PREVENT gnome/ubuntu from claiming an USB STICK when inserting it? i want to use it in virtualbox but ubuntu always claims it so its not available
[02:20] <magnetik_> where should I start?
[02:20] <wileee> !pt | valmir
[02:21] <artois> syntroPi: write a udev rule to have it ignored
[02:21] <artois> syntroPi: you can give it a vanity name while you're at it, if you want
[02:21] <artois> like /dev/awesomesauce
[02:21] <valmir> desculpe, estou me acostumando a este mundo.
[02:22] <eipi-1_> si-o
[02:22] <daftykins> magnetik_: try hitting ctrl+alt+F1 then ctrl+alt+F7 first
[02:22] <syntroPi> artois, hmm do i really need that? its one time only...
[02:22] <daftykins> syntroPi: so just unmount it from the host one time only?
[02:22] <magnetik_> daftykins I remember trying that and not getting any signal. I'll try again
[02:22] <magnetik_> be back later :P
[02:23] <syntroPi> daftykins, its not mounted and nautilus killed
[02:24] <syntroPi> but something from ubuntu seems to have claimed it since its not available in vbox
[02:25] <daftykins> run "mount" on its' own and check
[02:25] <daftykins> no idea how such functions in vbox work
[02:25] <wileee> syntroPi, You have it added in vbox prefrences
[02:25] <syntroPi> its not listed in "mount"
[02:25] <syntroPi> cant add it in vbox since its not avail
[02:25] <delta_> ?
[02:26] <wileee> syntroPi, YOu add when mounted, and when you start vbox it grabs it.
[02:26] <daftykins> delta_: yes? do you have a support question?
[02:26] <syntroPi> yes i know how its done in vbox but how can I add it when it wont appear in the usb filter? its claimed by ubuntu system instead somehow
[02:26] <aruns> EriC^^:There is a problem, can you guess about this : xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/
[02:26] <delta_> Just a test. I'm new to irc
[02:27] <wileee> syntroPi, Once there it will go to vbox when already booted
[02:27] <wileee> as well
[02:27] <eipi-1_> does anyone use chatzilla?
[02:27] <syntroPi> wileee, its not seen by vbox since its claimed by ubuntu already
[02:27] <syntroPi> not sure which component does that
[02:27] <magnetik_> using ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 didn't work. didn't see any pseudo terminals or any video at all.
[02:28] <wileee> syntroPi, Have you just replugged it after looking it's not shown in home
[02:28] <daftykins> magnetik_: ah well.
[02:29] <syntroPi> wileee, yes maybe its because i need to be in the vboxusers group, ill try adding myself and relogin
[02:29] <wileee> yes you have to be in the group
[02:31] <GeekMan1222> hexchat
[02:33] <syntroPi> wileee, yup that was it, seems to work now ))
[02:33] <wileee> syntroPi, Good job figuring it out. ;)
[02:37] <syntroPi> can i somehow secure erase an ssd from live cd/usb stick?
[02:37] <syntroPi> i mean ubuntu 15.04 image
[02:37] <daftykins> yes with hdparm
[02:38] <daftykins> you're better off looking if the manufacturer offers some tools, however
[02:39] <syntroPi> i always do this before i reinstall ubuntu to reset the firmware, used parted magic in the past though
[02:39] <daftykins> that's overkill :)
[02:40] <syntroPi> you think the firmware will notice the new fs?
[02:40] <daftykins> no it won't have a clue, but i'm saying it's a waste of time to secure erase like that
[02:41] <syntroPi> i thought its recommended to have max perf and for "discard" option to work properly (i.e. firmware and fs in "sync")
[02:42] <daftykins> nope, someone's been telling you rubbish
[02:42] <syntroPi> so you just would reinstall it over the old system without any special commands to the ssd?
[02:43] <daftykins> correct
[02:43] <syntroPi> kk
[02:43] <daftykins> i might dd 50-100MB of zeroes to the start so it has no idea of what was once on there
[02:43] <daftykins> but no real gains to be had
[02:43] <cliffordkasper> I agree with daftykins
[02:43] <cliffordkasper> I never rewrite 1/0 over the entire disk
[02:43] <syntroPi> yeah thats how i always did it when trashing windows installations with viruses :p
[02:44] <daftykins> *malware
[02:44] <daftykins> viruses are so 90s.
[02:44] <syntroPi> yeah
[02:45] <cliffordkasper> I would think that if you are going from windows to ubuntu, even if the format/install didn't get everything (malware, virus), it would be able to target Ubuntu anyways
[02:45] <syntroPi> yeah i meant when i cleaned windows i wrote zeroes in the first houndred mb or so then reinstalled from clean dvd
[02:46] <syntroPi> anyhow on my own box there is no M$
[02:46] <syntroPi> yay my usb stick is ready to rock, cu guys l8tr
[02:47] <daftykins> every OS has its' problems, it just depends which you prefer cleaning up after.
[02:50] <zippo^> he, I want install bluefish of the official website: bluefish.openoffice.nl. How can I install, but without PPA
[02:52] <daftykins> zippo^: find a deb, but it's a bad idea
[02:52] <zippo^> why daftykins ? do you true in PPA?
[02:53] <daftykins> sorry but your english is impossible to make sense of
[02:54] <zippo^> sorry, I mean: Do you trust PPA, daftykins ?
[02:54] <dexus> hello
[02:54] <daftykins> that depends on the PPA :P
[02:54] <kteckca> Hello?
[02:54] <daftykins> hi
[02:54] <kteckca> Could someone help me with my ubuntu server?
[02:54] <daftykins> not until you ask a question
[02:55] <zippo^> and why is it a bad idea --> find a deb, daftykins ?
[02:55] <surgy> ok im ready to work on my tablet some more
[02:55] <kteckca> ???
[02:55] <zippo^> I have no expierence with the server, littleb00tz
[02:55] <daftykins> zippo^: because it won't get updated ever again.
[02:55] <zippo^> ah i see okee
[02:56] <zippo^> how did people make a package of the update (Bluefish) in PPA, daftykins ?
[02:56] <aruns> OerHeks, EriC^^ :There is a problem, can you guess about this : xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/
[02:57] <daftykins> zippo^: compiled it from source, probably. and no - i can't help you do that :)
[02:57] <surgy> my graphics tablet huion 580 works but not right. it needs to be mapped to a specific screen and i need to be able to change what the buttons do. which i cant. and im not even sure that the driver is installed. i am running kubuntu 14.04 lts. I am running kernal 3.19. i found wizardpen drivers but the instructions seam dated they are talking about ubuntu 10.10 there. was wandering if anyone has time to help me work on this a bit?
[02:59] <kteckca> On my server, I install ubuntu server 14.04 (LTS) so it installs fine, then the networking just does not work... I do ifconfig and it only show the loopback, i do ifconfig -a and i see eth0 and eth2 , and try to enable them, and i get a error, i cat the /etc/network/interfaces file then i see the interface that is hardwired to my network ( eth1 ) a
[02:59] <kteckca> nd the loopback, any suggestions?
[03:00] <aruns> OerHeks, EriC^^ :There is a problem, can you guess about this : xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/   , Further I have explained on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289974
[03:01] <daftykins> kteckca: show a pastebin of "ifconfig -a"
[03:04] <JanC> kteckca: if there are two devices eth0 and eth2 but your configuration only tries to use the non-existing eth1, that should explain some things I guess...
[03:05] <surgy> i guess not :(
[03:06] <daftykins> surgy: maybe post to the ask ubuntu site and/or forums since you come on at bad times for help on IRC.
[03:06] <kteckca> daftykins, i will get a pastebin, but i cant use any networking ( such as SSH ) so i will have to go back and for between the room the two computers are in
[03:07] <daftykins> kteckca: k, take a picture if it's easier.
[03:07] <surgy> daftykins, i suppose.... or maybe im not asking the question right...... is there an xinput configuration file that might have some settings i can change for the tablet?
[03:08] <zippo^> No package 'gtk+-3.0' found
[03:08] <zippo^> No package 'gdk-3.0' found
[03:08] <zippo^> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[03:08] <zippo^> No package 'gmodule-2.0' found
[03:08] <zippo^> No package 'gobject-2.0' found
[03:08] <zippo^> No package 'pango' found
[03:08] <daftykins> !paste | zippo^ Don't to that again :)
[03:08] <daftykins> surgy: i can't help you.
[03:09] <JanC> surgy: maybe (maybe!) somebody in #ubuntu-studio or such can help
[03:10] <JanC> as artists are more likely to have a graphics tablet :)
[03:22] <kteckca> ok, daftykins here is the pastebin of ifconfig -a http://pastebin.com/usSCymys
[03:22] <stubblefield> anyone have any ideas how to get 1366 vga resolution on my monitor
[03:23] <kteckca> Settings / Display ?
[03:23] <daftykins> kteckca: so you get nothing useful from "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" ? or the same for eth2?
[03:23] <stubblefield> all the xrandr addmode stuff results in INVALID FORMAT blank monitor
[03:23] <daftykins> stubblefield: get a new cable :)
[03:23] <stubblefield> settings / display just displays UNKNOWN MONITOR
[03:23] <daftykins> a nice digital one as mentioned earlier
[03:23] <kteckca> daftykins, one sec let me double check
[03:24] <stubblefield> well i think this computer only has vga out
[03:24] <daftykins> stubblefield: the X.org log disagreed
[03:24] <stubblefield> oh really
[03:25] <stubblefield> ar eyou just saying that
[03:25] <daftykins> no i read it in the log =| what motivation would i have for lying?
[03:25] <stubblefield> just for the heck of it
[03:25] <daftykins> anyway it should be pretty obvious if you trace the VGA cable in and look if you have the white DVI socket nearby
[03:25] <daftykins> http://nvidia.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/enduser/kb221_2.jpg
[03:26] <stubblefield> well my cat is sitting here, i would have to get up
[03:26] <daftykins> you should see like that
[03:26] <kteckca> daftykins , eth0 and eth1 exist on the machine, (eth2 does not) the eth0 jack is broken and has always never worked...
[03:26] <stubblefield> i don't get what nvidia is
[03:26] <daftykins> that's a link i'm sharing of a picture
[03:26] <daftykins> nvidia doesn't bear any relevance to anything right now
[03:27] <stubblefield> most of the google results about this talk about nvidia but when i run nvidia-detector it says none
[03:27] <daftykins> kteckca: ah, did you typo your pastebin then? as it reads eth2
[03:27] <kteckca> no
[03:27] <kteckca> that is what comes out, no joke
[03:27] <daftykins> kteckca: so did you trying bringing eth2 up? does it have a cable in right now?
[03:28] <kteckca> eth2 (should) not exist and if it is (what should be) eth1, yes
[03:28] <daftykins> kteckca: rather than thinking about what it should or shouldn't be - just accept what ifconfig -a reports
[03:28] <kteckca> ok... anyway
[03:28] <daftykins> so try bringing up the interface, then try getting a DHCP address over it from your router perhaps
[03:29] <daftykins> with "sudo dhclient eth2"
[03:29] <kteckca> ok brb
[03:30] <daftykins> stubblefield: yeah or you would just run "lspci" and read the model of graphics from there, likei had you do, which showed intel i965.
[03:30] <kteckca> Can't load firmware file "(Some file...)" (next line) Can't allocate memory
[03:30] <stubblefield> i appreciate that you memorized my Xorg.log
[03:32] <daftykins> nah that part was from the 'lspci'
[03:32] <stubblefield> i never ran that though
[03:32] <stubblefield> u ssh in here ?
[03:32] <daftykins> i'm about to label you an idiot and ignore you
[03:32] <daftykins> kteckca: how odd. maybe it's worth memtesting that system, doesn't sound quite happy
[03:33] <stubblefield> anyway i don't have any jack like that
[03:33] <stubblefield> i have another machine with that kind of connector
[03:33] <stubblefield> i have a thing that converts that to vga
[03:33] <stubblefield> but it flickers and sucks
[03:33] <stubblefield> i guess it should go to a usb connector into the monitor or osmething
[03:34] <surgy> whats the command to open xinput.xorg in a text editor?
[03:34] <daftykins> not USB, no.
[03:35] <stubblefield> otherwise all the monitor has is hdmi or spdif or what looks like coax
[03:35] <kteckca> hmm, I have 8 Gigs in that system, before i had webmin, ssh, dhcp, dns... running and it NEVER got above 10% (maybe 5%) now, with no services runnning, I dont think it is the ram though
[03:35] <kteckca> daftykins
[03:35] <daftykins> !webmin
[03:35] <daftykins> ;)
[03:35] <kteckca> It is not running on my system currently
[03:35] <june> Hi everyone
[03:35] <kteckca> Hi
[03:35] <cfhowlett> surgy, gedit ...
[03:36] <daftykins> kteckca: well something isn't right, maybe google the model of NIC you have in there.
[03:36] <kteckca> it is a motherboard NIC
[03:36] <kteckca> so idk
[03:36] <stubblefield> is it possible the monitor is dying ?
[03:36] <daftykins> kteckca: yeah so run "lspci" and identify it.
[03:37] <daftykins> stubblefield: doubt it.
[03:37] <stubblefield> then WTF
[03:37] <kteckca> Ispci?
[03:37] <stubblefield> it's been working for a long time
[03:37] <kteckca> ( sorry I'm relatively new to linux)
[03:37] <daftykins> for the love of Tux stubblefield - i've told you options, deal with it.
[03:38] <daftykins> kteckca: lowercase L, like list PCI
[03:38] <stubblefield> i need software options
[03:38] <cfhowlett> stubblefield, to solve a failing hardware issue?  LOL
[03:38] <daftykins> stubblefield: you're out of them.
[03:38] <cfhowlett> it don't work like tht
[03:38] <kteckca> ok...
[03:38] <stubblefield> i don't know if the hardware is failing
[03:39] <daftykins> stubblefield: go back to 12.04 then
[03:39] <stubblefield> well it worked up to like 3 days ago
[03:39] <stubblefield> that's long past 12.04
[03:39] <stubblefield> and i tried booting various old kernels in grub but no dice
[03:39] <daftykins> no it's still supported.
[03:39] <daftykins> !12.04
[03:40] <daftykins> yes old kernels != 12.04
[03:40] <stubblefield> yeah i'm just saying it's been working through 2 other major ubuntu releases till now
[03:40] <daftykins> obviously you're looking for someone to throw the magic switch for you
[03:40] <daftykins> i'm done.
[03:41] <stubblefield> i've spend numerous hours on this i'm just kind of shooting in the dark now because nothing has worked
[03:41] <daftykins> ridiculous
[03:44] <kteckca> ok daftykins, downloading drivers, now I have never install linux drivers...so can you help me...
[03:44] <daftykins> you don't really download drivers in Linux land
[03:44] <daftykins> and nah, i'm off to bed shortly
[03:45] <kteckca> well..
[03:45] <kteckca> but, it is ...
[03:45] <daftykins> that's nice dear
[03:45] <kteckca> gah, well i am going to leave to my own devices
[03:45] <daftykins> nn
[03:55] <Finetunrda_> hey guys, my audio isn't working. What do I do?
[03:55] <Finetunrda_> It's just killed over. restarting does not resolve the issue
[03:56] <daftykins> Finetunrda_: bit odd you keep getting one issue after another, time to check the health of your hard disk and run a memtest i think.
[03:56]  * Finetunrda_ sighs
[03:57] <Finetunrda_> daftykins: can you walk me through the hdd check?
[03:57] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools
[03:57] <daftykins> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[03:59] <HowardTheDuck> hey how do i install ubuntu on my nexus 7
[03:59] <daftykins> !touch
[03:59] <daftykins> HowardTheDuck: see above
[04:00] <Finetunrda_> daftykins: while this thing installs, can you tell me how to at least restart the audio function?
[04:00] <daftykins> nope no idea.
[04:00]  * Finetunrda_ sighs
[04:00] <daftykins> you must've done something this time :)
[04:01] <Finetunrda_> daftykins: actually, I don't even know if the audio was working earlier. I just needed to be able to use wifi at that point
[04:03] <Finetunrda_> daftykins: I'm being notified that a restart is needed, should I go ahead or do you want me to run the secon command?
[04:03] <Finetunrda_> *second
[04:04] <daftykins> i can't think what the restart is in aid of, sure wasn't any of my instructions
[04:04] <daftykins> just run them now yeah, i haven't got time for the reboot.
[04:04] <Finetunrda_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045684/
[04:06] <daftykins> ok looks fine, maybe it's just recent kernel upgrades. you could go back like you did to check the wireless and just see if audio comes back with older kernels too.
[04:06] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to memtest just as a precaution
[04:06] <daftykins> i gotta sleep now, nn
[04:07] <Finetunrda_> daftykins: I too must sleep. Thanks for the help. I'll do the memtest tomorrow
[04:07] <daftykins> np :)
[04:11] <surgy> guess i cant use linux
[04:11] <surgy> sucks
[04:13] <Johnny_Linux> why not surgy
[04:15] <Fudge> anyone happen to know where the ubiquity install gets the name string for the ubuntu version, i.e lsb_release etc
[04:15] <surgy> Johnny_Linux,  my kernal (3.19) supports the graphics tablet i have and there is a driver for it. and it works. but i cant seam to configure it at all..... there are things that have to be configured or it wont work right. ive been at it for a week and every trail i follow runs cold. and ive asked all the guys at the places that support y distro (kubuntu 14.04) and no one can help me they just redirect me here or there. and ive googled everythi
[04:15] <surgy> ng i know to google. the best luck ive had is the developers of the driver at digiment.gethub.io. its a huion 580 graphics tablet btw.
[04:17] <Johnny_Linux> huh, sorry, just have patients and do some more research, sorry i couldnt help, youll get it ooner or ltr
[04:17] <Johnny_Linux> i need k/b lessons too
[04:17] <surgy> ill try a few more days.... it sucks too because i love kubuntu sooo much.......... but i do digital art and i hate dual booting...
[04:18] <Johnny_Linux> which tablet
[04:18] <surgy> huion 580
[04:18] <Johnny_Linux> is that a knock off ?
[04:18] <surgy> no
[04:18] <Johnny_Linux> ok, lemme look see
[04:18] <surgy> its a cheaper chinese brand thats gaining huge support for being less feature rich but well made and less expensive
[04:19] <surgy> it is officially supported with a driver in kernal 3.19
[04:20] <Johnny_Linux> theres 1000 hits
[04:20] <Johnny_Linux> whew
[04:20] <Johnny_Linux> https://www.google.com/search?q=huion+580+configure+ubuntu+graphics&client=ubuntu&hs=twL&channel=fs&gbv=1&sei=OCbIVZ_CCorNeoT7i7gI
[04:22] <surgy> yeah ive probably clicked all of those
[04:23] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[04:23] <Johnny_Linux> maybe change kernels
[04:23] <surgy> will that give me a configuration tool?
[04:23] <surgy> like i said i have the driver
[04:23] <Johnny_Linux> not sure
[04:23] <SolarNRG> I can't go into 1080p mode without missing the top of the screen and the left of the screen
[04:24] <stubblefield> um, i got my resolution back
[04:25] <SolarNRG> how?
[04:25] <stubblefield> oh crap it still flickers
[04:25] <SolarNRG> my monitor and gpu both did 1080p perfect in windows why is ubuntu and debian both giving me grief?
[04:26] <stubblefield> and it says 1280x768
[04:26] <stubblefield> at least this is a start i guess
[04:26] <stubblefield> i dunno what 1080 mode is
[04:26] <stubblefield> but i am using xrandr commands
[04:26] <SolarNRG> 1920x1080
[04:27] <SolarNRG> I've got it in that resolution but the top and the left of my screen is missing
[04:27] <SolarNRG> i mean sure my mouse can go there but its off screen
[04:27] <SolarNRG> i tried messing about in xrandr
[04:27] <SolarNRG> i got the ati catalyst drivers properly installed now
[04:27] <SolarNRG> it was doing this before in debian
[04:27] <SolarNRG> but it worked fine in windows
[04:27] <SolarNRG> why?
[04:27] <SolarNRG> its outputting on the hdmi
[04:28] <Johnny_Linux> you prolly need to go with ubuntu drivers, ati outside of those really dont work well
[04:28] <SolarNRG> the outputs interestingly are labelled different in ubuntu from debian, debian calls it --output HDMI-0 but ubuntu calls is output DFP9
[04:28] <SolarNRG> Johnny_Linux, it couldn't hack the res BEFORE I installed the ati drivers
[04:28] <Johnny_Linux> ic
[04:33] <SolarNRG> shall i take this up with kernel.org?
[04:47] <Hippy> I am trying to use zypper but for some reason it's   not working
[05:00] <zorbs> is there a command to measure how much bandwidth is going out?
[05:00] <julian-delphiki> !info iftop
[05:00] <julian-delphiki> zorbs, ^
[05:00] <zorbs> thanks !
[05:09] <syntroPi> how come ubuntu 15.04 still ships with gedit 3.10? i thought its gnome 3.14?!
[05:09] <cfhowlett> errrrr gnome is not gedit
[05:09] <syntroPi> this is even older than debian jessie!!!
[05:09] <avilba> Hello everyone. I have this very simple script (http://pastebin.com/HQu5H3wM) which toggles on/off my laptop keyboard. It works flawlessly when I run it from terminal, but doesn't when I use an XFCE launcher (it toggles Off but not On again). I don't have a clue why...
[05:10] <julian-delphiki> !info gedit
[05:11] <syntroPi> yeah this is antique doesnt even integrate properly in gnome anymore
[05:12] <syntroPi> even debian stable has 3.14.0-3 already
[05:13] <julian-delphiki> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/ubuntu-15-04-include-gnome-3-14-updates-default-apps syntroPi
[05:13] <Michaelrockingth> Ubuntu froze up on me on my USB again
[05:13] <Michaelrockingth> Is it my computer causing the freezing up on Ubuntu or the usb?
[05:13] <Michaelrockingth> should i just download and redo the USB image of ubuntu?
[05:14] <bf-109> hello everyone, recently installed ubuntu on my dell inspiro 15 5000(new) and im having some quite nasty temperature while idling, already forced max fan speed with pwmconfig, but id like to underclock the cpus on the i7, the bios dont allow me to change that there, is there anyway to effectly set 1,5ghz instead of 2ghz at all times throught ubuntu?
[05:16] <julian-delphiki> bf-109, you should probably be able to use cpufrequtils.
[05:16] <julian-delphiki> !info cpufrequtils
[05:17] <bf-109> thanks mate
[05:17] <bf-109> will look it up
[05:21] <syntroPi> julian-delphiki, hmm so why is it still 3.10 in the official repos then? i used 3.14 on my old 14.10 with gtk3 ppa for quite some time without any issues...
[05:22] <julian-delphiki> syntroPi, you're more than welcome to use that PPA again.
[05:22] <julian-delphiki> and gedit is onlike 3.17 now or something.
[05:22] <syntroPi> julian-delphiki, yes i tried that but on 15.04 it freezes on gnome 3.16 so not useable
[05:23] <syntroPi> i just would like to have a consistent gnome desktop no matter what version
[05:26] <mike1960> hello
[05:26] <gott3rfunk3n83> Hi
[05:29] <Michaelrockingth> tell me why the hell does the dang ubuntu live cd freeze up.. I happened at 1:04am i waited until 1:10am to turn the computer off and it did nothing
[05:29] <Michaelrockingth> Is it my computer tell me!!
[05:30] <gott3rfunk3n83> Its ur computer
[05:30] <mike1960> it can be either a bad disk or need to clean the drive
[05:31] <Michaelrockingth> mike1960 clean the drive?
[05:31] <mike1960> yes a dvd cleaner disk
[05:31] <Michaelrockingth> but how is it my computer gott3rfunk3n83
[05:31] <Michaelrockingth> Mike1960 I'm using sandisk usb
[05:31] <gott3rfunk3n83> Problem with your drive
[05:31] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Michaelrockingth verify 1. your .iso  and 2. the usb
[05:32] <mike1960> ok... contacts in your USB
[05:32] <gott3rfunk3n83> Probably the way its partitioned wrong
[05:32] <Michaelrockingth> Well i don't see how it is the contacts in the USB i just bought this one like 3 days ago.
[05:33] <mike1960> ok then verify your iso
[05:33] <cfhowlett> Michaelrockingth, mike.  you don't mind if I call you Mike? Good.  Ever heard GIGO?  Garbage in, garbage out?  VERIFY ^^^
[05:33] <Michaelrockingth> cfhowlett if the md5 is right what else could it be
[05:34] <cfhowlett> Michaelrockingth, it COULD be : VERIFY.  I don't do "what if".  Get the facts first and we'll talk.
[05:34] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, on which step does it freeze?
[05:35] <Michaelrockingth> all i had on the live disc installed was firefox, flash player and trying to download updates and thats when the whole system froze up.
[05:35] <gott3rfunk3n83> I had similar prob. Fixed
[05:35] <Michaelrockingth> I was on 2 flash based webistes as well.
[05:36] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, hmm maybe ram was full if you do that on livecd/usb?
[05:36] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, do you want to install it?
[05:36] <Michaelrockingth> I checked it and it was only using 1.5GiB of 3.7GiB before it all happened.
[05:36] <mike1960> should have installed to HDD and free up RAM
[05:36] <aruns> OerHeks, EriC^^ :There is a problem, can you guess about this : xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/   , Further I have explained on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289974
[05:37] <Michaelrockingth> Yes i want to install Ubuntu but not if its gonna do that.
[05:37] <gott3rfunk3n83> Try install without going to advanced partitioning just straight install to drive choose the drive then click install
[05:37] <cfhowlett> Michaelrockingth, do you also have windows?
[05:37] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, hmm well you would have to find out where the problem originates
[05:37] <Michaelrockingth> I have windows 8.1 64-bit fully updated
[05:38] <cfhowlett> Michaelrockingth, install virtualbox to windows.  install lubuntu to vbox.
[05:38] <Michaelrockingth> If i re do the flash drive and give it persitant cache this time would it leave info in syslog
[05:39] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, its sluggishly slow (at least last time i tried that)
[05:39] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, if you have an android you could try to ssh into the live session to look into the logs or dmesg
[05:39] <gott3rfunk3n83> Did you burn the iso to cd? Or just on the usb.
[05:39] <gott3rfunk3n83> What tool you used?
[05:40] <Michaelrockingth> just usb and i used the tool mentioned here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:40] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, also afaik if you press F2 on bootup there was an option to verify the files on the usb drive
[05:40] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, i mean after you entered the boot menu of the ubuntu usb stick
[05:41] <syntroPi> not sure if its still there though
[05:41] <Michaelrockingth> syntropi when i install to the hdd and say its does the same thing could y'all help even better after that
[05:41] <cfhowlett> syntroPi, true but that doesn't hashcheck.  that's why REPEATEDLY has been suggested md5sum.  guess that's just too much trouble to do though
[05:41] <Michaelrockingth> cause i mean right now it don't seem like much help right now
[05:42] <Michaelrockingth> cfhowlett well dang I'm about to do it now..
[05:42] <Michaelrockingth> I had to redownload the iso becaue i removed it from my laptop after i burned it to the usb
[05:42] <abb0> anyone in here have a walkthru link for help installing nzbget on ubuntu? by chance
[05:42] <gott3rfunk3n83> Hashcheck if your iso was completely downloaded
[05:42] <gott3rfunk3n83> Then come back
[05:42] <abb0> ima newcomer to linux mostly tho
[05:43] <Michaelrockingth> Well i'll brb
[05:43] <syntroPi> cfhowlett, i thought that option in the boot menu would read file hashes from checksums.md5 and verify the livecd files hashes
[05:44] <minimec> abb0: http://www.htpcguides.com/install-nzbget-stable-ubuntu-ppa/
[05:44] <cfhowlett> syntroPi, it doesn't.
[05:44] <syntroPi> hmm
[05:45] <cfhowlett> syntroPi, I thought the same for years as well but confirmed that it's not the case.
[05:45] <rainbowwarrior> hi, i just installed ubuntu 15.04 along side windows 10 on an msi ge60 2qd apache , my problem is i am not getting a choice of what o/s to choose from and its going straight to windows 10, how can i fix this please ?
[05:45] <syntroPi> cfhowlett, what does this option do then instead? im always curious to learn new...
[05:46] <gott3rfunk3n83> Grub
[05:47] <mike1960> i was just thinking the same thing Gott
[05:47] <gott3rfunk3n83> On the installer there should be an option to install alongside windows
[05:48] <mike1960> im on the latest grub.. and yes the option exists
[05:48] <gott3rfunk3n83> On the installer there is an option to install alongside windows. Be sure its ticked
[05:49] <rainbowwarrior> gott3rfunk3n83 , I installed Ubuntu 15.04 along side windows 10 but its going straight into windows 10 and not letting me choose between ubuntu 15.04 and windows 10.
[05:50] <syntroPi> is there any known solution to get a full gnome 3.14 for ubuntu 15.04?
[05:50] <cfhowlett> syntroPi, install ubuntu-gnome ??
[05:51] <minimec> rainbowwarrior: Did you install both systems on the same harddrive, or seperate harddrives? Because during installation, Ubuntu should replace the boot sector and give you the choice to select the os. Now if you use two harddrives, it might be that you are simply booting the 'wrong' drive first. So change the boot order.
[05:51] <mike1960> hmm gnome desktop through synaptic file manager
[05:51] <syntroPi> cfhowlett, thats what i meant
[05:51] <rainbowwarrior> im sure my bios does not need to be in legacy to run ubuntu 15.04 as im sure if i remember right ubuntu supports ueifi now
[05:51] <rainbowwarrior> minimec its on same hard drive
[05:51] <syntroPi> so correction:  is there any known solution to get a full gnome 3.14 desktop (with all apps) for ubuntu-gnome 15.04 x64?
[05:52] <minimec> rainbowwarrior: So I wonder that the boot sector was not replaced during install...
[05:52] <squinty> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[05:52] <gott3rfunk3n83> Bios settings and check boot order
[05:53] <mike1960> through synaptic file manager..
[05:53] <rainbowwarrior> squinty thank you
[05:53] <squinty> yw
[05:54] <rainbowwarrior> brb lets hope it fixes it :)
[05:54] <cfhowlett> syntroPi, got it I think.  md5sum verifies the .iso downloaded matches the .iso build.  in other words checks against the main source.  verify cd integrity ONLY checks against the downloaded .iso.  if that .iso is funky ...
[05:57] <Michaelrockingth> cfhowlett ok I have it open in the md5 checker what do i click now the calculate or compare?
[05:58] <Michaelrockingth> The iso i just downloaded i get the error they are different..
[05:58] <ufk> hello
[05:58] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, you should check against the published md5sums on http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:58] <Michaelrockingth> ok
[05:58] <ufk> i installed mariadb-server but i can't get it to start. i can't see any error messages. any ideas ?
[05:59] <Michaelrockingth> It says they are the same
[06:01] <Michaelrockingth> redoing the usb now syntroPi
[06:01] <syntroPi> cfhowlett, im struggling to understand what you meant with your explanation on the verify option: i understand it depends on a non-corrupt checksums.md5 file inside the iso
[06:01] <Michaelrockingth> should i just boot into it and now install or play around in it and see if it freezes up
[06:01] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, what graphics card do you have?
[06:02] <Michaelrockingth> syntroPi let me generate a system report with speccy it only take a second :)
[06:02] <Michaelrockingth> syntroPi http://speccy.piriform.com/results/NHO4cbdwoOt3WF2uLf1pGMY
[06:03] <Hanumaan> I have laptop where I installed windows and Ubuntu but only windows is getting booted I could go to ubuntu only when I press F9 and then select in grub also grub has windows but there is something wrong unable to see grub directly..
[06:04] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, well it seems to be some sort of intel graphics (which is good since it probably can use some open source drivers)
[06:04] <Michaelrockingth> syntroPi the intel website says my graphics card isn't  supporting linux and on the live preview of ubuntu it said i had sandy bridge graphics
[06:04] <akik> syntroPi: there's a checksums.md5 file inside the iso?
[06:05] <Michaelrockingth> syntroPi should i just install to HDD and then see what happens or wait and play around on the fresh copy of usb?
[06:05] <akik> syntroPi: i usually compare the md5/sha256 checksum to the published checksums found on ubuntu website
[06:06] <Michaelrockingth> what would you recommend :)
[06:06] <syntroPi> akik, yes /md5sum.txt with some content like http://pastie.org/10340945
[06:06] <akik> syntroPi: ok that file doesn't include the checksum for the whole iso
[06:07]  * Michaelrockingth pokes syntroPi
[06:07] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, hmm thats your decision, I would always prefer some linux over any windows but thats my opinion. if you want to find out more about your problem you could try on live without doing any harm
[06:08] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, do you have another pc avail in your network?
[06:08] <Michaelrockingth> syntroPi how would i find the issue cause though would it be logged this time around since i gave the usb 4GB of presistent cache
[06:08] <Michaelrockingth> no
[06:08] <syntroPi> or tablet or phone?
[06:08] <syntroPi> (android)
[06:08] <Michaelrockingth> I have an Android asus MeMO pad 7 (ME176cx)
[06:09] <Michaelrockingth> why?
[06:09] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, you can try to enable ssh server on the live cd and then use ConnectBot to ssh into the live session
[06:10] <Michaelrockingth> ok
[06:10] <syntroPi> if its not frozen really nasty you still should be able to read the logs, restart services (eg. lightdm) and such
[06:10] <Michaelrockingth> syntropi would it save info to syslog this time around?
[06:10] <syntroPi> Michaelrockingth, i dont know how that persistent storage on liveusb works i never really used that
[06:11] <Michaelrockingth> i guess its worth a see :P
[06:12] <rainbowwarrior> hi still no luck and even holding left shit down does not work :(
[06:12] <rainbowwarrior> shift*
[06:13] <Michaelrockingth> I'm coming back tomorrow afternoon/night I'll give y'all the results syntroPi and bfhowlett :)
[06:13] <Michaelrockingth> * Cfhowlett
[06:13] <Michaelrockingth> anyways good night talk to you guys tomorrow thanks for helping :3
[06:15] <eipi-1_> hi
[06:15] <rainbowwarrior> squinty , there is no boot repair and also holding left shift down while booting does nothing, i did notice in my bios i have euifi , eufie and csm and legacy , but im sure it should not matter what one of those i choose ?
[06:15] <rainbowwarrior> sorry about typos
[06:18] <syntroPi> akik, ofc it wont verify itself or the whole iso but the files contents
[06:18] <eipi-1_> I typed this:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily and after update, I got:   E: Type 'ain' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan-stable-daily-precise.list
[06:18] <eipi-1_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[06:18] <eipi-1_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[06:18] <eipi-1_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:19] <eipi-1_> now synaptic won't work.  From terminal, how can I undo this please?
[06:19] <eipi-1_> forget vlc, I just wanna un-do it.
[06:22] <squinty> eipi-1_:    ain would seem to be missing a "m"       main is one of the repo's catagories
[06:22] <eipi-1_> ah..
[06:22] <rainbowwarrior> squinty , there is no boot repair and also holding left shift down while booting does nothing, i did notice in my bios i have euifi , eufie and csm and legacy , but im sure it should not matter what one of those i choose ?
[06:23] <rainbowwarrior> sorry seems my internet is wobbly this morning
[06:23] <eipi-1_> well, I'm a total noob.  How can I edit this?
[06:26] <eipi-1_> etc /apt /sources.list ?
[06:27] <squinty> eipi-1_:    gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan-stable-daily-precise.list    would be one way.   if you have another text editor which you like to use, then substitue it's name for "gedit"
[06:27] <squinty> rainbowwarrior:   iirc, you have to install boot repair
[06:29] <squinty> rainbowwarrior:   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:29] <rainbowwarrior> squinty, ahh i see what i have to do now thank you , will try again :)
[06:33] <eipi-1_> thanks!
[06:39] <eipi-1_> fuckin a Squity, thanks a lot!
[06:40] <wileee> eipi-1_, Don;t get used to swearing here.
[06:41] <eipi-1_> ok
[06:41] <wileee> no biggie, heh we are glad your happy
[06:43] <eipi-1_> thanks
[06:48] <aruns> Jai Hanumaan !!
[06:52] <tuhl__> Hello, I installed LTS Enablement Stacks and when I dpkg -l I see some packages (eg. xserver-xorg-video-vmware, xserver-xorg , xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-video-intel) but theirs -vivid version is installed. Are the old ones safe to remove?
[06:54] <wileee> tuhl__, Those are replaced with what is needed as part of the stack, I would not touch it myself.
[06:56] <k1l> tuhl__: yes, you can remove the old enablement stack
[06:59] <tuhl__> wileee, k1l: thanks... Ill do backup and try then :D
[07:00] <wileee> tuhl__ Good idea, good luck.
[07:06] <syntroPi> how can i edit the favorites shortcuts in gnome3?
[07:09] <wileee> syntroPi, In what way, you can add and remove apps?
[07:10] <aruns> Hanumaan : Jai Hanuman, Namaskar Hanumaan Ji. Koti Koti Pranam
[07:10] <eipi-1_> adios
[07:12] <syntroPi> wileee, i want to edit existing app launchers in the favorites panel
[07:13] <rainbowwarrior> Woo Hoo I am now dual booting windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.04 , thank you , i forgot to disable secure boot and found some other settings in my bios i needed to change and now all works fine :)
[07:13] <mike_1960> good deal
[07:13] <wileee> syntroPi, Can you be more exact?
[07:14] <mike_1960> good deal rainbowwarrior
[07:14] <aruns> There is a problem implementing installation , can you guess about this : xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/   , Further I have explained on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289974
[07:14] <mike_1960> secure boot
[07:15] <rainbowwarrior> mike_1960 yep
[07:16] <mike_1960> anything good has to take some work
[07:20] <syntroPi> wileee, i just got an answer in #gnome: the favorites panel references .desktop files from  ~/.local/share/applications and if not from there then from /usr/share/applications: it seems they have to be modified manually to edit the Exec=... command which launches the app
[07:20] <wileee> cool, carry on
[07:21] <aruns> Wilee, daftykins : There is a problem implementing installation , can you guess about this : xargs -a ~/packages sudo apt-get install --reinstall >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/   , Further I have explained on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289974
[07:22] <wileee> if I knew I would have answered you
[07:22] <aruns> Ok fine
[07:25] <Ben64> aruns: obviously ~/packages isn't right
[07:25] <syntroPi> wileee, thanks maybe my question was not formed clearly enough, im in need for some coffee :) the gui way seems to be alacarte btw (though im fine with editing files manually myself).
[07:26] <wileee> syntroPi, Not a problem, you got the help, it's all good. ;)
[07:27] <easyOnMe> hello everyone is there a way I can move the pop up menu bar on the left of ubuntu to be placed down at the bottom
[07:28] <aruns> Ben64 : How were you able to reach on conclusion that packages are not right?
[07:28] <Ben64> aruns: by reading your pastebin
[07:29] <aruns> Ben64 : that i know,  but you may have read some statements through which you have reached that conclusion, Any pointers?
[07:29] <rainbowwarrior> who ever it was i spoke to about hp 4507 and Ubuntu 15.04 , i can confirm that the printer works fine in ubuntu 15.04 using hplip-3.15.7
[07:30] <Ben64> aruns: i mean, did you even look at what you pastebinned? look at lines 6-15
[07:30] <aruns> Unable to locate package src=http://182.79.218.37
[07:30] <aruns> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'src=http://182.79.218.37:8080/webadmin/de
[07:30] <aruns> Ben64 : to me problems seems here
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !webadmin | aruns, and it references webadmin?
[07:32] <aruns> cfhowlett : I have no clue on this, can you help me with pointers how to fix that
[07:32] <rainbowwarrior> !msi keyboard light controller
[07:33] <Ben64> aruns: are you serious? let me ask you a question. why are you trying to install a package named "frameborder=0><"
[07:34] <easyOnMe> hello everyone is there a way I can move the pop up menu bar on the left of ubuntu to be placed down at the bottom
[07:34] <aruns> cfhowlett, Ben64 : i tried pinging 182.79.218.37 manually and it requires permission. I think i am going nut, I dont noticed it due to fatigue to deal with this problem for very long time
[07:35] <Ben64> aruns: how is installing packages related to pinging an ip
[07:35] <wileee> easyOnMe, Only if you roll the to the left one turn
[07:35] <wileee> monitor*
[07:36] <easyOnMe> wileee: wow that was funny man
[07:36] <easyOnMe> but seriously is there a way to do what I wish
[07:36] <wileee> used to be a hack, nothing out there
[07:37] <wileee> was not a joke, but the reality of the desktop ;)
[07:39] <cfhowlett> aruns, I've read all your pastes.  this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12045252/ lines 6 - 15 are clearly in error.  I'd suggest you stop and take a nap.  then reinstall a clean ubuntu.  something is clearly very well scrambled which renders your system untrustworthy.  IMHO.
[07:39] <wileee> easyOnMe, Probably would be popular if there was a easy way, I suspect.
[07:40] <aruns> cfhowlett: Can i fix this system, Is it beyond repair?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> aruns, fix = reinstall from a clean, verified .iso
[07:42] <aruns> cfhowlett : I know thats the last option, what I am trying is to learn how to fix this system, Is it impossible? or information in our hand is not sufficient to address this problem.
[07:43] <aruns> cfhowlett : Fresh install is the quick way to get out of problem but what remains buried is unsolved problem.
[07:43] <aruns> cfhowlett: I appreciate leads provided by you.
[07:44] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: hello
[07:44] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: is there a way I can move the pop up menu bar on the left of ubuntu to be placed down at the bottom
[07:45] <wileee> Both of you easyOnMe and aruns have both just random;y addresses help, do not do that
[07:45] <wileee> this is free volunteer help, we are not obligated to help
[07:46] <cfhowlett> aruns as I understand it, you deleted several pieces of ubuntu-core while chasing the shiny python version.  that alone is enough to destabilize your system.  then the reinstall of ubunut-desktop failed with some very questionable errors pointing towards ? sources? install script?                Short answer: Ive NO idea what your system is doing, haven't seen this particular mix of fail before, thus my (sanity saving) suggestion to clean reinstall.  B
[07:46] <cfhowlett> UT ... YMMV
[07:46] <aruns> wileee : what yo intend to say from that statement? Any offence done by me
[07:46] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, no idea.  sorry.  UbuntuStudio here so I've literally never used unity.
[07:47] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:47] <easyOnMe> you are cool man
[07:47] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, too cool for school :)
[07:47] <aruns> cfhowlett : Thanks for peeking into the problem, Would do that as last resort
[07:47] <easyOnMe> wileee: and for your info please do not sound like a grumpy old man
[07:47] <cfhowlett> aruns, happy2help!
[07:48] <easyOnMe> relax the people I asked for help are the people I know about
[07:48] <aruns> cfhowlett : Thanks buddy
[07:48] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: hahaha
[07:48]  * cfhowlett is himself a grumpy old man and proud of it.
[07:48] <easyOnMe> yeah
[07:48] <easyOnMe> how are you doing man
[07:50] <wileee> I'm not happy unless I'm not chasing those kids off my lawn
[07:50]  * cfhowlett passes a chilled PBR to wilee
[07:50] <wileee> heh
[07:51] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: what is ubuntu studio is it also another brand of ubuntu os
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !studio | easyOnMe
[07:51] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:51] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, it is an official ubuntu flavor for multimedia production.  Much fun!
[07:52] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: does it it have any of those animation software similar to flash and flash actionscript
[07:52] <easyOnMe> of adobe
[07:52] <Sebsebsebb> Hi wireless worked when enableing the proprietary Broadcom drivers in additional drivers on a 15.04 Live USB, but in my install it's not working and I can't just enable it either. So what to do? Maybe I can Ethernet it and try and download from repos myself or something,
[07:53] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, plenty.  blender, inkscape for starters.  you can add those to your plain vanilla ubuntu or go to UStudio
[07:53] <wileee> !broadcom | Sebsebsebb The wiki has an offline
[07:54] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: UStudio what does it have... I only want to do simple animation stuff just like what I did in flash of adobe what is its counterpart in USTudio
[07:55] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: blender is just way to high up there because it is already using 3D images and I have no exposure to that I only want to do 2D animation
[07:56] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, krita, gimp, pencil, mypaint, >>> synfig studio <<<
[07:56] <cfhowlett> synfig specifically for 2d anim
[07:58] <Sebsebsebb> Saying that there's another driver as well that it says isn't working and can't just enable
[07:58] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: ok I heard of those and I am currently using them except for krita, is it also free just like synfig studio
[07:58] <cfhowlett> all free!
[07:59] <cfhowlett> !krita
[07:59] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, krita can be used for animation but is primarily for digital painting.
[07:59] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: but synfig studio is not regularly being updated right
[08:00] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, check it:  http://www.osalt.com/
[08:00] <mka> hi
[08:00] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: oh ok have you used krita before what about inkscape have you used it too
[08:00] <mka> how can i open gconf editor on ubuntu 15.04?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, tried krita, more familiar with gimp and actually developed a tiny bit of skill with inkscape.  My snowman rocks!
[08:01] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: lol but is it also possible to animate thinks created in inkscape usng inkscape
[08:02] <easyOnMe> I have used inkscape and gimp very often
[08:02] <easyOnMe> for web design projects
[08:02] <easyOnMe> as I am more into open source
[08:02] <easyOnMe> I was just curious whether it is possible to create something like .gif file for those objects created in inkscape using inkscape
[08:03] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, continue discussion in #ubuntustudio       more expert eyes
[08:03] <syntroPi> mka there is dconf-editor preinstalled (another conf system) but no gconf-editor, you would have to install that
[08:03] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: ok thanks no problme
[08:03] <speedy__> hi
[08:04] <syntroPi> mka most of gnome3 apps use dconf though
[08:04] <syntroPi> gconf was gnome2 -ish
[08:04] <mka> syntroPi: ah i thanks, im installing gconf-editor i will check dconf too if what i want to configure is not working with gconf thanks
[08:08] <aruns> Can someone suggest how to take back up of "nano ~/package"
[08:08] <aruns> I want to create another copy of same file
[08:09] <Ben64> aruns: that file is no good
[08:09] <aruns> ok so end solution remains open, install afresh !
[08:10] <Ben64> yep, and next time be more careful with what you run
[08:11] <aruns> Ya mistakes are best teachers to make us learn, Will be cautious with system
[08:12] <aruns> it has devastated my system beyond repair, I have tried hard to learn and solve this problem but to no rescue I am failure by all means
[08:13] <mrsmart> Whata day!
[08:15] <cfhowlett> aruns, for future reference: apt-get -s purge python returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/12046583/              the "-s" means sandbox means not running the command.  seeing a list like this *should* cause one to think twice about whatever s/he is about to do.
[08:18] <khangeek> hi i am unable to install zenoss pn aws ec2 instance after running zenoss install script it is showing my private ip of ec2 instance:8080 but i am unable to access the dashboard of zenoss and also  the 8080 port is not running in netstat command
[08:19] <aruns> khangeek : give output of netstat
[08:24] <syntroPi> im trying to make a channels.conf with w_scan but it always seems to freeze on a specific transponder: how can i find out where the problem lays?
[08:28] <khangeek> @aruns netstat -ntlp
[08:30] <Nakul> Hi
[08:31] <Nakul> I have recently upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS and I am not able to login to my desktop
[08:31] <Ben64> what does it do when you try
[08:31] <Nakul> It blinks and then back to login screen
[08:31] <Nakul> I am able to login using Terminal TTY
[08:31] <Nakul> so my username and Password is also correct
[08:32] <Nakul> I have tried all the methods as provided to resolve this issue on http://askubuntu.com/
[08:32] <Nakul> nothing worked
[08:32] <zzarr> Nakul: try sudo chmod -R ug+rwx /home/[username]
[08:32] <zzarr> if you haven't already
[08:32] <Nakul> done that
[08:32] <Nakul> not working
[08:33] <Ben64> can you log into guest
[08:33] <zzarr> okey, tried this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session ?
[08:33] <Nakul> yes
[08:33] <Nakul> not working
[08:34] <khangeek> @Nakul apt-get update and apt-get upgrade then apt-get install gdm and select gdm as default display manager and restart gdm service and try to login
[08:34] <Nakul> @khangeek I tried all that
[08:34] <Nakul> not working
[08:34] <zzarr> are /home on a separate partition?
[08:34] <Nakul> i dont know
[08:35] <Nakul> it was working for 12.04 lts
[08:35] <khangeek> please anyone answer my question unable to install zenoss on aws ec2 instance?
[08:35] <Ben64> if guest isn't working could be a graphics driver problem
[08:35] <Nakul> guest is not working
[08:35] <Ben64> khangeek: what is zenoss, where did you get it
[08:35] <Ben64> Nakul: yeah i know, thats why i said that
[08:36] <zzarr> Nakul, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[08:37] <popey> Nakul: i would be inclined to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and see if it installs anything that was missing. (I suspect it will)
[08:37] <khangeek> @Ben64 zenoss is a server monitoing tool based on snmp protocl
[08:37] <popey> Nakul: eek, mistake, should be "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" <- note tha ^
[08:37] <Nakul> I tried it like 2-3 times does not work
 u got
[08:38] <Nakul> not tried that
[08:38] <popey> Nakul: with the ^? You need that
[08:38] <Nakul> i will check on it
[08:38] <cfhowlett> khangeek, ask #ubuntu-server or #networking ?
[08:38] <Ben64> khangeek: you missed the second half of the question
[08:39] <syntroPi> !pastebinit | Nakul
[08:39] <khangeek> @ben64 what
 khangeek: what is zenoss, where did you get it
[08:40] <Nakul> thanks ..i will try and let you all know
[08:44] <khangeek> hi all unable to install the zenoss core on ubuntu 14 on an aws ec2 instance   i followed this link but 8080 port is not running http://idroot.net/tutorials/how-to-install-zenoss-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[08:45] <Ben64> khangeek: you've still not answered my question fully
[08:45] <khangeek> zenoss is snmp based monitroing server BEN64
[08:46] <Ben64> yes thats the same half you answered before
[08:46] <Ben64> now answer the other half
[08:46] <khangeek> i already updated before only
[08:46] <khangeek> u know zenoss installation on ubutu 14
[08:46] <Ben64> you need to answer the question
[08:47] <khangeek> which question ben64?
[08:47] <khangeek> pls tell me
 khangeek: what is zenoss, where did you get it
[08:47] <Ben64> for the third time
[08:48] <syntroPi> is there a more modern alternative to w_scan for dvb-c usb sticks? it worked on ubuntu 14.10 but for some reason it freezes on 15.04
[08:48] <khangeek> how many times should i tell you zenoss is an opensource mnitrong server u can download from zenoss site
[08:48] <Ben64> you didn't say where you got it
[08:48] <khangeek> ben64
[08:48] <khangeek> http://idroot.net/tutorials/how-to-install-zenoss-on-ubuntu-14-04/    ben64 here..i got it
[08:48] <Ben64> so get support from there, that is not an ubuntu package
[08:49] <khangeek>  hi all unable to install the zenoss core on ubuntu 14 on an aws ec2 instance   i followed this link but 8080 port is not running http://idroot.net/tutorials/how-to-install-zenoss-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[08:49] <Ben64> khangeek: that is not an ubuntu package, get support from that site and/or the developer
[08:49] <indistylo> khangeek : Don't flood with message
[08:50] <indistylo> The package you are asking is off-topic from ubuntu
[08:50] <cfhowlett> khangeek, as stated: NOT ubuntu NOT supported here.  http://www.zenoss.org/      for assistance.
[08:50] <om> hi bhagwan
[08:50] <khangeek> you knmow zenoos pls help me bro
[08:51] <khangeek> actually aws ec2 instance havong 2 ip's so it showing install successfully with priavteip:8080 so how can i access via private ip?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> khangeek, you've been told where to get help.  don't be rude.
[08:51] <om> bhagwan r u there
[08:54] <speedy__> hey i recently installed 15.04 :D
[08:54] <linuxholic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/615610/brightness-controls-serious-lag-ubunut-15-04
[08:54] <linuxholic> can anyone help me with this problem?
[08:55] <speedy__> help!
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !help | speedy__
[08:55] <linuxholic> I've searched the whole internet but didn't found a solution
[08:56] <speedy__> linuxholic, well then if your the "first" to see this happen then please be the first to file a full bug report.
[08:57] <speedy__> it helps everyone out in the end.
[08:57] <linuxholic> speedy__, i think it's a kernel issue
[08:57] <linuxholic> speedy__, so really don't know where to report a bug
[08:57] <speedy__> haha i was just thinking that.
[08:58] <linuxholic> I am using Ubuntu 14.04.3
[08:58] <speedy__> what os are you using?
[08:58] <speedy__> then find the ubuntu place to report bugs
[08:59] <linuxholic> speedy__, ok, thanks
[08:59] <speedy__> linuxholic, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[09:00] <linuxholic> speedy__, actually it started happening on every distro
[09:00] <speedy__> please explain?
[09:01] <speedy__> have you tried to do a fresh install?
[09:01] <speedy__> linuxholic,
[09:01] <khangeek>  hi all unable to install the zenoss core on ubuntu 14 on an aws ec2 instance   i followed this link but 8080 port is not running http://idroot.net/tutorials/how-to-install-zenoss-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[09:01] <linuxholic> speedy__, have you read the link?
[09:02] <wileee> linuxholic, Your taking info from someone whose second post was 'help', is not that a red flag for you?
[09:02] <linuxholic> wileee, haha!
[09:02] <zzarr> how do I check what X displays that's available?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> speedy__, this ain't windows and reinstall is the LAST option.
[09:03] <minimec> zzarr: 'xrandr' in a console
[09:03] <zzarr> thanks
[09:04] <speedy__> cfhowlett,  sorry i was meaning; like is this a fresh install like a min ago.. or have you had this distro for a little while while linuxholic
[09:04] <linuxholic> The problem is with Linux kernel 3.19+...
[09:04] <linuxholic> speedy__, Fresh install
[09:04] <Nindustries> Hi, anyone else have he bug where periodically keyboard shortcuts won't work? Rebooting fixes this..
[09:04] <speedy__> cfhowlett,  linuxholic  how fresh? haha..
[09:04] <zzarr> can I install xrandr to check if xmir is working on device running mir?
[09:05] <linuxholic> speedy__, Installed yesterday
[09:05] <speedy__> Nindustries, yes, linuxholic  is haveing that same issue
[09:05] <zzarr> perhaps I should ask in the Ubuntu Touch channel?
[09:05] <linuxholic> No reboot is not a solution for me :D
[09:05] <wileee> speedy__, Stop commenting, you are not helping anyone.
[09:06] <speedy__> what version did you use to install.
[09:06] <linuxholic> 14.04.3
[09:06] <Nindustries> linuxholic: soo... no cure? :)
[09:06] <linuxholic> Nindustries, no i've tried every solution that was available on the internet
[09:07] <Nindustries> sigh
[09:07] <linuxholic> but none of them did work
[09:07] <linuxholic> Even on the Arch forums some users are facing this issue
[09:08] <Nindustries> And it's just custom keyboard shortcuts FYI, not default ones such as SUPER etc
[09:08] <linuxholic> And they're blaming linux kernel
[09:08] <linuxholic> Just with brightness controls, other keys are working fine
[09:08] <linuxholic> like sound keyrs
[09:09] <wileee> linuxholic, Did you know this, works still in linux, I have an acer d250 https://acer.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5700/~/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-the-touchpad-on-my-computer%3F
[09:09] <speedy__> wileee,  mmmm i answer someones question and i am asking about the problem of another... as for myself i am a fresh install hours ago and to see what i need to do to fix my potential problem.
[09:10] <wileee> speedy__, You have not answered a single question, you are not helping, stick to the help you need.
[09:10] <linuxholic> On my laptop i don't have tou press Fn in order to use shortcut keys
[09:10] <om> hi
[09:10] <linuxholic> wileee,
[09:10] <ws2k3> does the sshd server has an error log? sshd is installed but when i restart it it says unknown instandse and ssh is not reachable
[09:11] <wileee> linuxholic, Did you read the link?
[09:11] <linuxholic> wileee, yes
[09:11] <speedy__> hi om
[09:11] <EriC^^> ws2k3: it's called ssh in ubuntu not sshd
[09:11] <EriC^^> ws2k3: sudo service ssh restart
[09:11] <wileee> linuxholic, from your post 'up vote
[09:11] <wileee> 0
[09:11] <wileee> down vote
[09:11] <wileee> favorite
[09:11] <wileee> 	
[09:11] <wileee> I have a Asus N56v Laptop, recently upgraded to Vivid and now my Brightness Controls accessed via ("fn+F5", "fn+F6", "fn+F7")'
[09:12] <kokut> wat
[09:13] <wileee> sorry extra stuff I pasted
[09:13] <kokut> wileee: downvote him
[09:15] <speedy__> linuxolic?
[09:15] <speedy__> so what is the diff with 14.04.3 vs 15.04?
[09:16] <Ben64> 14.04 is LTS, 15.04 is not
[09:17] <cfhowlett> speedy__, also: read the release notes.
[09:17] <silver_310> hello
[09:18] <silver_310> can someone help me with setting up a bridged connection for a KVM guest?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking silver_310
[09:19] <silver_310> one question
[09:20] <silver_310> i set up the bridge, but cannot access the outside network, i can ping the ip address of the bridged interface, but can't ping any other IP
[09:20] <speedy__> where is the offtopic?
[09:21] <cfhowlett> !ot | speedy__
[09:21] <speedy__> thanks cfhowlett
[09:26] <om> haha thanks
[09:26] <om> indistylo
[09:41] <linocisco> hi all, i m using mobile broadband internet with USB modem. I know USSD code to check current balance. How can I send using CLI?
[09:47] <linocisco> hi all, i m using mobile broadband internet with USB modem. I know USSD code to check current balance. How can I send using CLI?
[10:08] <kadiro> hello
[10:08] <mike1960> hello
[10:08] <surgy> somone had talked me into upgrading to kernal 4.0.4 and it made my computer run like crap. Before i upraded I had my desktop EXTENDED acrossed two monitors. and now that I have reverted back to kernal 3.19 It is MIRRORED. how do i get my display back to extended? im runing kubuntu 14.04 lts
[10:09] <kadiro> surgy: why not booting from your old kernel ?
[10:10] <surgy> nvm i fixed it
[10:10] <surgy> i am booting fro mmy old kernal
[10:10] <kadiro> and same thing happen?
[10:11] <surgy> yeah same thing happened but i fixed it
[10:11] <kadiro> surgy: i think you will do backup for your xorg.conf and regenerate a new one
[10:12] <surgy> kadiro, but i fixed it
[10:12] <kadiro> good
[10:13] <kadiro> surgy: never use a new kernel if it's a testing one
[10:13] <kadiro> unless always keep an old kernel
[10:14] <kadiro> ( just my opinion )
[10:15] <brothersome> Are there more troubles with hiberation?
[10:15] <brothersome> I mean: Pausing
[10:15] <kadiro> hibernation*
[10:17] <wileee> brothersome, Suspend?
[10:17] <kadiro> hi wileee
[10:17] <wileee> hi
[10:18] <brothersome> Yeah, I still have troubles, after coming up - a thermal point shows 100 gr. C - What is wrong - So my fans will blow fully
[10:18] <kadiro> wileee: i'm sorry for yesterday
[10:19] <wileee> kadiro, I don't even remember it, don't worry about it. ;)
[10:19] <brothersome> Supppertime - bbl
[10:19] <kadiro> thank you wileee you are a best man :)
[10:28] <kadiro> my thermal have too a problem before ( 76 to 96 °C and until 114°C cause shutdowning my pc ) but after i changed a cooler that changed it ( 67°C to 77°C ) with small application but when do some others like chrome with flash based it will be 88°C
[10:29] <kadiro> sorry for my bad english
[10:33] <simongee> Hi all, does anyone know of or maintain a repo that holds a recent (post 1.3.21) version of graphicsmagick?
[10:33] <simongee> I'm trying to avoid having to build from source but it's starting to look like I might have to
[10:35] <furious> hola
[10:35] <furious> que tal
[10:35] <furious> soy new (nuevo)
[10:35] <Ben64> !es | furious
[10:36] <kadiro> hola furious ( i don't speak spanish )
[10:46] <harold22> Przyprawa do Ziemniakow!!
[10:47] <harold22> Przyprawa do Ziemniakow!! ??
[10:47] <kadiro> O_o
[10:47] <brothersome> kadiro, I do not have troubles with my real temperatures - Ubuntu just sets the wrong value, so my fans will blow fully (after suspend)
[10:48] <harold22> Przyprawa do Ziemniakow!! ??
[10:49] <kadiro> brothersome: ok i understand you now, lm-sensors give you this wrong value i think?
[10:49] <kadiro> !pl | harold22
[10:50] <Hanumaan> should the Legacy support be disabled in BIOS for dual OS(Windows 8 and Ubuntu) ?
[10:50] <kadiro> Hanumaan: in some mother board yes ( not all )
[10:51] <Hanumaan> kadiro, how do I decide I have a new laptop want to install both Windows8 and Ubuntu what is the better way with this UEFI available?
[10:52] <kadiro> sorry Hanumaan no idea for UEFI
[10:52] <EriC^^> Hanumaan: legacy is easier but it's older, uefi is the newer firmware, it boots slightly faster as well
[10:52] <EriC^^> Hanumaan: i'd install using uefi
[10:52] <kadiro> thk's EriC^^ for info
[10:53] <kadiro> !UEFI
[10:54] <kadiro> got it
[10:56] <gott3rfunk3n83> how
[10:56] <gott3rfunk3n83> just installed 15.04
[10:57] <gott3rfunk3n83> not much difference except the glitchiness
[10:57] <gott3rfunk3n83> how do i exit hexchat from fullscreen?
[10:58] <kadiro> Alt+F4 that do something?
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> gott3rfunk3n83  try F11
[10:58] <gott3rfunk3n83> tnx
[10:58] <gott3rfunk3n83> f11 worked
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> most programs use F11 for fullscreen, even in Windows
[11:00] <kadiro> yes right
[11:02] <kadiro> !info vdr
[11:02] <gott3rfunk3n83> there a way to adjust text size for hexchat?
[11:02] <wileee> gott3rfunk3n83, right click-settings
[11:02] <kadiro> yes gott3rfunk3n83 from parameter | option in a first windows
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:03] <kadiro> hi
[11:03] <k1l> gott3rfunk3n83: its in the settings from hexchat. just open it and take a look
[11:05] <gott3rfunk3n83> tnx
[11:13] <brothersome> kadiro, about UEFI - it replaces the MBR method
[11:26] <dawan> hello
[11:27] <dawan> does anyone know where i can download free ebooks about raspberry pi running kali linux
[11:28] <k1l> dawan: well, ask the kali guys, i guess
[11:28] <dawan> i dont know how to connect to them
[11:28] <dawan> can you guide me please?
[11:28] <k1l> !kali | dawan
[11:28] <dawan> ok can you teach me how to vpn for free in ubuntu please
[11:28] <Russel6465> hello
[11:29] <Russel6465> i dont know how
[11:29] <k1l> dawan: get a vpn and then use the vpn plugin in the networkmanager to use that vpn connection.
[11:29] <dawan> wow really Russel?
[11:29] <dawan> can you please guide me ?
[11:30] <Russel6465> i think its possible but not for free
[11:30] <jpds> dawan: Look up OpenVPN howtos on ubuntu
[11:30] <dawan> do you have a specific website where i can down load certificates for it ?
[11:30] <k1l> looking for free webservices is not the task of the ubuntu support dawan. if you got one and want to connect and have issues, than come in here
[11:30] <jpds> dawan: No, that depends on the web service
[11:31] <jpds> dawan: Here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33548728
[11:31] <jpds> Surprisingly extensive for a BBC guide
[11:38] <feneco> is there any way to run IE browser on ubuntu without using a VM?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> feneco  with wine
[11:41] <Ben64> feneco: perhaps wine, but why
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> some websites are optimized for IE
[11:43] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: in the past, sure
[11:50] <ioria> yeah ... like this http://www.filemark.com/FileMark%20SMARTi%20Imaging%20Jun%202007.htm
[11:51] <nikitha> how to take image copy of entire ubuntu hard disk and restore back, please help ?   is there any particular  gui tool available ?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> nikitha  clonezilla
[11:56] <PaulVern> dd
[11:57] <BluesKaj> PaulVern:  agreed , but he's looking for a gui
[12:08] <Fohlen> hey guys. I have followed https://getcomposer.org/doc/00-intro.md#globally and I am looking for a way to "integrate" composer updates with apt.
[12:08] <Fohlen> for automatic updates
[12:08] <Fohlen> any ideas?
[12:08] <Fohlen> maybe using a simple cronjob does it as well
[12:17] <EriC^^> ubuntu help wiki is down
[12:17] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommunityHelpWiki
[12:19] <ioria> ok, for me
[12:20] <BluesKaj> EriC^^:  works ok here
[12:20] <EriC^^> oh, it's working now
[12:20] <EriC^^> :)
[12:21] <EriC^^> ty
[12:21] <ioria> but i cannot ping it
[12:22] <NilePrince> hello
[12:23] <NilePrince> help please
[12:23] <k1l> !details | NilePrince
[12:24] <NilePrince> what the first things do it after install ubuntu to bot meet broken install programs and update
[12:24] <k1l> NilePrince: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and show the result in a pastebin
[12:25] <EriC^^> NilePrince: there shouldn't be any broken packages from a fresh install.. did you checksum the iso?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> NilePrince  sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get -f install
[12:25] <NilePrince> omg
[12:25] <NilePrince> who is right ?
[12:25] <OerHeks> EriC^^, +1
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> NilePrince  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:26] <NilePrince> ok
[12:29] <ubuntu820> How do I get ubuntu to read my USB xbox controller? It has options for a wireless that was easy enough to find, but not for a wired one.
[12:30] <neetz> Hey  there ! How do I check if My IP address attached is DHCP or static , I can't find a way , I checked in my netwrok/interface file , it doesn't display anything but i'm connected to internet but doesn'r display anything about static or DHCP configuration?
[12:31] <neetz> Hey  there ! How do I check if My IP address attached is DHCP or static , I can't find a way , I checked in my netwrok/interface file , it doesn't display anything but i'm connected to internet but doesn'r display anything about static or DHCP configuration?
[12:32] <minimec> ubuntu820: https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=USB%20xbox%20controller&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&gws_rd=ssl#hl=de&q=USB+xbox+controller+ubuntu
[12:33] <brothersome> neetz, check you IP adress and your router - DHCP has a different range than static IP adresses
[12:33] <ubuntu820> minimec I'm not looking to buy one. I have it and I'm trying to get ubuntu to let me use it.
[12:33] <brothersome> neetz, if properly configured
[12:33] <neetz> ubuntu820:  ifconfig doesn't say anything about dhcp or static
[12:33] <mack_> :P
[12:33] <Nakul> hi
[12:33] <mack_> Hello
[12:33] <minimec> ubuntu820: First result is this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/165210/how-do-i-get-an-xbox-360-controller-working
[12:33] <neetz> brothersome:  i can't look at my router , i 'm writing a code to determine without the router
[12:34] <minimec> ubuntu820: 2nd... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/ubuntu-xbox-controller-support-xboxdrv-driver
[12:34] <ubuntu820> Your google result is apparently different than mine.
[12:34] <Nakul> this channel is #ubuntu??
[12:34] <ubuntu820> Yes
[12:34] <Nakul> ok
[12:34] <minimec> ubuntu820: want some more?!? http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/configure-xbox-controller-on-your.html ... ;)
[12:34] <ubuntu820> Also, those are all wireless.
[12:35] <brothersome> neetz, Your router is the boss not your computer
[12:35] <ioria> neetz, nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP4 ?
[12:35] <Nakul> I am facing a login issue after I have upgraded my ubuntu version to 14.04 lts
[12:35] <minimec> ubuntu820: http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/
[12:36] <Nakul> not able to login
[12:36] <ubuntu820> I'll try that. thanks :3
[12:36] <Nakul> terminal TTY is working fine
[12:36] <neetz> ioria:  that gives only IP and DNS :/
[12:36] <EriC^^> Nakul: type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[12:37] <neetz> brothersome:  No but my ubuntu should have in my inteface filr right ?
[12:38] <Nakul> eric it shows -rw-------
[12:38] <ioria> neetz, cat /var/log/syslog | grep DHCP
[12:38] <EriC^^> does it say root?
[12:38] <Nakul> no
[12:38] <Nakul> it is from my username
[12:38] <EriC^^> Nakul: does the guest account work?
[12:39] <neetz> ioria:  :*
[12:39] <Nakul> no
[12:39] <neetz> ioria:  :*
[12:39] <neetz> ioria:  thans bro
[12:39] <neetz> thanks*
[12:39] <ioria> neetz, np
[12:39] <EriC^^> Nakul: ok, type sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:39] <ioria> ^_^
[12:39] <freezevee> does anyone use Chef ?
[12:40] <OerHeks> freezevee, using chef is more a question for #ubuntu-server
[12:41] <freezevee> all right thanks !
[12:41] <Pici> or maybe #chef
[12:41] <Nakul> @Eric after typing password, shell has not returned
[12:42] <mjayk> Haya all Im trying to install bumblebee-indicator on 15.04 and i get ImportError: No module named gtk
[12:42] <mjayk> whe i try to run it
[12:42] <mjayk> any advice would be appriciated
[12:43] <Nakul> @eric http://termbin.com/fuya
[12:44] <EriC^^> Nakul: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:46] <Nakul_> Hi Eric
[12:47] <Nakul_> Eric: http://termbin.com/nryy
[12:47] <Gary_100>  is it possible to  convert a cdma cellphone into gsm?
[12:48] <nokiomanz> Hi all, I have a ubuntu acting as an nfs server. I have a centos7 acting as a client. For some yet unknown reason, when i modify a file on the server, if the size of the file does not change, i dont get the updated file on the client.
[12:48] <k1l> Gary_100: ##hardware
[12:50] <EriC^^> Nakul_: which graphics driver are you using?
[12:50] <minimec> nokiomanz: Is the time on these two machines synchronized?
[12:50] <k1l> Nakul_: make sure "linux-generic" package is installed.
[12:50] <k1l> Nakul_: and which video vard is it exactly?
[12:50] <Nakul_> its ATI Radeon
[12:50] <nokiomanz> minimec, yes time match on both client and server. but not the content
[12:51] <EriC^^> Nakul_: do you use the open source drivers?
[12:51] <nokiomanz> if last modification is 5 minutes ago and i do a change on the server now. the client will get the modified time on the file but not the content
[12:51] <Nakul_> no
[12:52] <k1l> Nakul_: which ati card exactly? and is the linux-generic packages installed?
[12:52] <EriC^^> Nakul_: type dpkg -l | grep fglrx | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:52] <minimec> nokiomanz: Oh. that's not so good. Like in the end you have two files with the same timestamp but different content?
[12:53] <Nakul_> http://termbin.com/yhyn
[12:53] <k1l> Nakul_: which video card exactly?
[12:53] <Nakul_> Kil: not sure
[12:54] <EriC^^> ^ lspci | grep VGA
[12:54] <k1l> "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:54] <nokiomanz> minimec, exactly. My client is read only. I see the correct timestamp on both side. But it is like it's 2 copy of the same file. And if the size of the file does not change i will never get the updated file.
[12:54] <nokiomanz> It is the first time i get that kind of problem with nfs
[12:54] <Lucax> Hello, my screen goes dark all the time while I am online
[12:55] <Lucax> what sort of bug is that
[12:55] <Nakul_> http://termbin.com/bcs2
[12:55] <Lucax> my hard disk is full also, does it have a relation
[12:55] <Lucax> ?
[12:56] <k1l> Lucax: you mean "dark" like the screensaver or dark like the program is hanging and greyed out so long
[12:56] <k1l> Lucax: a full hdd could have several issues yes.
[12:56] <Lucax> hanging and it grey out
[12:57] <Lucax> are there ways other than deleting or transfering files to keep the hdd not full (like compression, defragging etc)
[12:57] <Nakul_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
[12:58] <Nakul_> Eric: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
[12:58] <k1l> Lucax: can you pastebin a "df -h"?
[12:59] <EriC^^> Nakul_: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:59] <k1l> Nakul_: is the package "linux-generic" installed?
[13:01] <Nakul_> @Eric: BrokenPipeError
[13:01] <Nakul_> K1l: how to check that??
[13:02] <nokiomanz> minimec, any idea? did you ever get such a problem ? :p
[13:02] <minimec> nokiomanz: No. Not at all. Would like to give you a hint, but ... :(
[13:03] <NilePrince> warning : root cant add
[13:03] <NilePrince> how fix this
[13:03] <brothersome> su
[13:03] <NilePrince> su only
[13:03] <k1l> NilePrince: brothersome no
[13:03] <brothersome> su <Your name - which is an admin>
[13:03] <OerHeks> !details | NilePrince
[13:04] <k1l> NilePrince: what command exactly?
[13:04] <nokiomanz> minimec: np I understand. :D
[13:04] <k1l> NilePrince: you need to give a lot more details to let us give you the right help.
[13:04] <NilePrince> i cant do update
[13:04] <k1l> Nakul_: "sudo apt update && sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[13:05] <NilePrince> k
[13:05] <k1l> NilePrince: that is why i requested more details and the output from a command i gave you minutes ago
 NilePrince: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and show the result in a pastebin
[13:07] <Nakul_> k1l: ran your command ...0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[13:08] <minimec> nokiomanz: 7.10 (end of page) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/troubleshooting.html
[13:08] <minimec> nokiomanz: Looks that the files still has the same 'inode number' after modification.
[13:08] <k1l> Nakul_: ok, so the kernel and headers are installed.
[13:09] <Nakul_> yes
[13:09] <EriC^^> Nakul_: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices , does it say it recommends fglrx-updates?
[13:10] <nokiomanz> minimec, effectively looks like it. What bugs me is that I just did a migration to that centos7 client. A week before I was on a centos6 as a client and never had a problem. The ubuntu nfs server did not change.
[13:10] <Guest89986> good day
[13:10] <sachin> hi
[13:10] <sachin> how we can use wine on linux
[13:11] <nokiomanz> I did a test. If i remount that nfs export on the centos6 client I dont get the problem.
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> sachin  is wine installed?
[13:11] <sachin> installing right now
[13:11] <nokiomanz> the nfs-utils package did update but in that case could it be a nfs client problem on both centos and not a server side problem....
[13:12] <sachin> not on this machin but my desktop
[13:12] <sachin> on my desktop
[13:12] <bishops> hello everyone, is there a way to integrate google drive docs with ubuntu. I mean fully. not have two random doc showing in the folder..
[13:12] <minimec> nokiomanz: So you better ask you question in the centos channel, as you did some empirical debugging with centos on the issue.
[13:12] <sachin> its already there bishops
[13:13] <sachin> no need to integrate it
[13:13] <nokiomanz> minimec: i will do that thanks for your time!
[13:13] <minimec> nokiomanz: no problem
[13:13] <bishops> sachin: what do you mean already there? I have followed instructions from a website but i don't have any files showing up..
[13:14] <sachin> hey monkeyDust tell me
[13:14] <Nakul_> Eric: fglrx-updates - distro non-free
[13:14] <sachin> see google drive is not a separate tool ok
[13:15] <Nakul_> Eric: xserver-xorg-video-ati - distro free builtin recommended
[13:15] <bishops> sachin: sorry please can you explain?
[13:16] <sachin> i cant explain it in deep but it can be used on web browser
[13:16] <bishops> sachin: i followed these instructions: http://dothisbest.com/how-to/install-google-drive-on-ubuntu/ but the folder stays empty
[13:16] <bishops> sachin: ah yes I know we can use through browser but thought we could sync with a home folder
[13:19] <dman777_alter> when I ssh into my ubuntu server and do env, I get TERM=rxvt-unicode. But when I ssh into my gentoo server I get TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color. This is from the same client pc that I am using to ssh. How can I make the ubuntu server TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color?
[13:20] <rednecktek> bishops, never could get grive working. Insync seems to be a much better tool. https://www.insynchq.com/
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> dman777_alter  there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:21] <bishops> rednecktek: oh thanks!
[13:21] <sachin> it is right bishop
[13:21] <ytixdecaf> Hello, What's the best client for the Direct Connect network?
[13:21] <bishops> rednecktek: oh but it's not free!
[13:22] <rednecktek> nope, but it works
[13:22] <dman777_alter> MonkeyDust: thanks
[13:23] <sachin> how to work on map reduce code in java
[13:23] <bishops> rednecktek: alright thanks. But I really don't understand why google extends a free suite to all platforms except linux, and they still brag to be open source friendly!!
[13:23] <sachin> on linux
[13:23] <pbx> sachin, join #java
[13:23] <rednecktek> bishops: a question for all  time
[13:24] <bishops> rednecktek: :) i think it has to do with $$$
[13:24] <rednecktek> bishops: always does
[13:25] <bishops> rednecktek: :(
[13:25] <sachin> ok
[13:26] <Nakul_> @Eric: you got my message
[13:27] <EriC^^> Nakul_: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx-updates
[13:27] <sachin> how to join #java
[13:28] <lelzNOT> sachin: '/j #Java'
[13:29] <Nakul_> Eric: done
[13:29] <Nakul_> what next
[13:29] <sachin> how to to know in which channel we are?
[13:30] <lelzNOT> sachin: Which client are you using?
[13:31] <sachin> means
[13:31] <sachin> os
[13:31] <sachin> or browser
[13:31] <sachin> how to to know in which channel we are??
[13:31] <sachin> oops
[13:31] <k1l> sachin: "/topic"
[13:31] <OerHeks> sachin, by reading the info on your irc client
[13:31] <lelzNOT> No. XChat or Hexchat or mIRC?
[13:31] <sachin> Xchat
[13:32] <lelzNOT> On your left you'll see the list of channels you have joined.
[13:32] <lelzNOT> or you could just /topic
[13:32] <sachin> "/topic " where to use it in join channel
[13:33] <sachin> where somewhere else
[13:33] <k1l> sachin: type the irc commands into the line where you type your chat
[13:34] <BluesKaj> sachin:  in the server textbox
[13:34] <sachin> "/topic"
[13:34] <k1l> sachin: come on. without the " "
[13:36] <Nakul_> @Eric: what to do next??
[13:36] <sachin> actually i very poor in linux world kll
[13:39] <sachin> ok
[13:39] <sachin> i am going thank you all
[13:46] <Nakul_> Eric: any furthur steps??
[13:48] <k1l> Nakul_: reboot and see if it works now
[13:52] <Nakul_> @Eric and k1l: it worked... i am ale to login
[13:52] <Nakul_> thank you both
[13:58] <dman777_alter> I am setting the PS1 variables in bashrc global...but the colors only take effect for root and not non root
[14:03] <dtscode> is there a reason why I would be able to ssh into an ubuntu server from putty but not my standard ssh?
[14:04] <OerHeks> dtscode, what does "my standard ssh" mean?
[14:04] <dtscode> OerHeks: the one that shipped with my ubuntu
[14:04] <evidex> dtscode: Proxy settings perhaps?
[14:04] <dtscode> evidex: how would I be able to tell?
[14:05] <evidex> dtscode: Check if you have proxies set in Putty via the menu on the right hand side
[14:05] <dtscode> oh I forgot to mention...
[14:05] <dtscode> I can connect through the standard ssh just like with putty, but the standard ssh doesn't load a shell whereas putty does
[14:05] <evidex> dtscode: Standard ssh being the 'ssh' command within a terminal?
[14:06] <dtscode> evidex: yes
[14:06] <k1l> dtscode: do you give the right username?
[14:06] <dtscode> k1l: yep
[14:06] <k1l> ssh user@server-ip
[14:06] <Kvitka> oi alguem fala??
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[14:07] <ANJ7> Hey guys got a problem.
[14:07] <dtscode> I know I do because `ssh dtscode@icceval.ninja` hangs but `ssh dtscode@icceval.ninja echo hi` properly prints hi
[14:07] <Kvitka> a aki ucranianos????
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> dtscode  try ssh -t   # means terminal
[14:07] <ANJ7> I used ubuntu ISO to create a live usb.
[14:07] <dtscode> MonkeyDust: thanks 'll try that
[14:07] <k1l> Kvitka: this channel is english only. please see the bots message
[14:07] <Kvitka> what???
[14:07] <evidex> Kvitka: !pt
[14:07] <ANJ7> and now I can't use my usb.
[14:08] <ANJ7> I tried formatting it but no use>
[14:08] <Kvitka> Mas aki alguem fala portugues ou ucraniano???
[14:08] <dtscode> no it doesn't look like that will work either MonkeyDust. also putty uses no proxies
[14:08] <Pici> Kvitka: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:08] <ANJ7> any help? How can I restore my 16GB USB back?
[14:08] <evidex> ANJ7: Have you tried making a new partition table on the USB with gparted?
[14:09] <Kvitka> evidex fala pt?????
[14:09] <ANJ7> evidex: nope
[14:09] <k1l> Kvitka: pt or ua?
[14:09] <Kvitka> pt
[14:09] <Kvitka> eu falo as duas
[14:09] <k1l> !pt > Kvitka see the bots message
[14:09] <OerHeks> ANJ7, good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[14:10] <evidex> ANJ7: http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-create-partition-table
[14:10] <evidex> dtscode: Try from another client?
[14:10] <dtscode> evidex: what do you mean?
[14:11] <KotoRez> One of my machines has Windows 8.1 Home edition which does not allow remote desktop. Is there an open source alternative that would allow me to remote desktop from ubuntu to my windows machine?
[14:11] <evidex> dtscode: Try SSHing into the server from a different machine
[14:12] <loa> hello, how i can remove triggers for package? in my case initramfs-tools trigger tries to build initramfs image for kernel which is already deleted and always fails.
[14:12] <evidex> KotoRez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[14:12] <dtscode> evidex: ok
[14:14] <dtscode> evidex: ok did that. so based on that I have come to the following conclusion. putty does something that ssh(1) doesn't that allows it to connect and load a shell, because connecting through ssh(1) just hangs
[14:16] <evidex> dtscode: Try  ssh -t user@host bash --login -i
[14:17] <dtscode> evidex: hangs again
[14:20] <evidex> dtscode: Strange :/
[14:20] <dtscode> I'll just bug digital ocean with it
[14:20] <dtscode> thanks for the help anyways evidex :)
[14:22] <sddfdev> whats required to join the ubuntu dtscode contributing devs team
[14:22] <sddfdev> some history of contributions ? :)
[14:23] <loa> from where update-initramfs pick information about installed kernels? i delete one kernel, and initramfs tries to build for it... but fails.
[14:23] <sddfdev> is it even possible to join with just some design skills
[14:24] <dtscode> sddfdev: I'm sorry... what?
[14:24] <sddfdev> that was an accidental tab
[14:24] <dtscode> ah
[14:24] <somsip> !contributing | sddfdev
[14:24] <loa> help me please with my question, i really don't know how to solve my problem.
[14:24] <somsip> !contribute | sddfdev
[14:25] <mcphail> dtscode: what do the logs on the server indicate when your login hangs?
[14:25] <dtscode> mcphail: where would I see that?
[14:25] <mcphail> dtscode: /var/log/auth.log would be the first place to look
[14:26] <dtscode> ok thanks
[14:31] <helpmeubuntu> I tried the newly made live usb of it with the iso i downloaded last night and noticed things seem more sluggish cfhowlett and others.. but thats normal for live usb isn't it? :)
[14:32] <RileyTL> I can't think of any reason why that would be
[14:32] <RileyTL> In fact, (and I'm no expert) I would imagine USB to be faster than live CD. If that's what you mean.
[14:33] <helpmeubuntu> RileyTL i gave it a presitent cache of 4GB
[14:33] <helpmeubuntu> last time i gave it no presitent cache it was fast :3
[14:34] <RileyTL> Hm, I guess it's possible that the USB drive itself is older, slow to write? Not sure, I've not played with persistent caches. I just write to USB to install on the hard drive with
[14:35] <helpmeubuntu> RileyTL its not a old flash drive i just got it the other day its a usb 2.0 PNY 16GB
[14:36] <Len>  /e pooky
[14:37] <pauljw> !p
[14:39] <dtscode> mcphail: is there any sensitive info in auth.log?
[14:39] <RileyTL> I'm not sure then helpmeubuntu, sorry
[14:39] <helpmeubuntu> RileyTL I believe today is the day I install it to my PC :)
[14:39] <daftykins> helpmeubuntu: persistence will be ruining your day.
[14:39] <daftykins> oh dear Tux help us all
[14:39] <daftykins> er i mean great!
[14:40] <helpmeubuntu> daftykins was that meant to be some kind of joke? :| and persistence is bad???
[14:40] <daftykins> it may slow down the experience yes.
[14:40] <mcphail> dtscode: probably - I wouldn't paste it
[14:40] <daftykins> ah you don't have your humour unit engaged today i see
[14:41] <helpmeubuntu> You're speaking to a person that has used puppy linux, Xubuntu, and Ubuntu 10.10
[14:41] <dtscode> mcphail: hrmmm damn... this is nonsense to me.
[14:41] <jphilippe> hello
[14:41] <helpmeubuntu> I love Linux.. Its so much better than windows.. If i had a laptop that came with Ubuntu by default i would love the hell out of it
[14:41] <mcphail> dtscode: if sshd has blocked anything it should be fairly obvious. Any gibberish is likely irrelevant
[14:42] <daftykins> helpmeubuntu: that's a silly claim, and OS a vs. b comments aren't welcome here
[14:42] <erwin> hello
[14:43] <mcphail> dtscode: if you run "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" on the server and then try to access via putty and ssh, you should see any errors in real time
[14:43] <dtscode> oh ok sweet
[14:43] <easyOnMe> daftykins: do you know the command from the terminal on how to know whether a file is utf-8 encoded
[14:43] <helpmeubuntu> daftykins sorry....
[14:44] <mcphail> dtscode: if that doesn't point in the right direction, I am probably out of ideas!
[14:44] <linelevel> Hi, I know how to add programs to my Startup Applications, but is it possible to set a particular desktop configuration for where those programs' windows should go? I use multiple workstations, and I would like the same windows to open on the same workspaces each time I log in.
[14:44] <dtscode> yeah if this doesn't work I'll be going to digital ocean
[14:45] <helpmeubuntu> daftykins do you happen to know a brand i could buy that preinstalls linux?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> helpmeubuntu, now you're just being lazy: dell, hp, system 76, zareason
[14:45] <daftykins> helpmeubuntu: brand of what, flamingo?
[14:45] <mcphail> dtscode: I suppose the other thing to check is that you don't have anything odd in your ssh_config file. I don't think putty uses that file so it may explain the differences
[14:46] <omrikap> hi, can someone help me with making a uefi bootable install on a USB? did a few tests, but non will boot.
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !uefi | omrikap
[14:46] <daftykins> omrikap: from what OS? just 'dd' the ISO on there.
[14:46] <helpmeubuntu> cfhowlett i am not being lazy :/ I thought dell, hp never preinstalls linux.. I thought it was always windows by what i seen..
[14:47] <dtscode> mcphail: it appears to be trying to log into root and failing
[14:47] <cfhowlett> helpmeubuntu, here's  test: google ubuntu + oem + dell and enjoy the magic.
[14:47] <mcphail> dtscode: you are using "ssh username@server.domain"?
[14:47] <dtscode> mcphail: correct
[14:47] <daftykins> helpanyway shopping is off topic here :)
[14:47] <daftykins> oh, quit.
[14:47] <mcphail> dtscode: and that user exists on the server?
[14:48] <omrikap> daftykins: hi, when i make a live usb, it works, but then i cannot save changes
[14:48] <daftykins> omrikap: that's what live sessions do.
[14:48] <dtscode> mcphail: correct
[14:48] <mcphail> dtscode: I don't know why it would try to log in as root, then. Can you ssh to any other machine?
[14:49] <omrikap> daftykins: haha.. I know.. But I want a complete install so I could save changes and everything, but won't have to dual boot.
[14:49] <daftykins> omrikap: i would not run from a flash drive.
[14:49] <dtscode> mcphail: yep. I can ssh into my rpi which works as one would expect it to
[14:49] <omrikap> daftykins: why?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> omrikap, plan B: windows + virtualbox + ubuntu.  no dual boot required
[14:49] <daftykins> highly undesirable.
[14:49] <mcphail> dtscode: are you using passwords or keys?
[14:50] <dtscode> passwords
[14:50] <mcphail> dtscode: and do you have any keys set up at all?
[14:50] <dtscode> no not yet
[14:50] <omrikap> cfhowlett: thanks, but it's too slow.
[14:50]  * mcphail is stumped
[14:50] <dtscode> me too
[14:50] <cfhowlett> omrikap, lubuntu then.
[14:51] <mcphail> dtscode: can you log into the server from another machine using the same credentials?
[14:51] <dtscode> mcphail: nope. tried it from my rpi and same hanging issue. I see this issue from every machine I try unless I use putty
[14:53] <omrikap> cfhowlett: thing is, i have only 128 GB ssd. No room for a virtual drive, doual boot or anything on this drive
[14:54] <daftykins> omrikap: damn - and where do you expect to store data?
[14:54] <mcphail> dtscode: certainly makes it seem like something at the server end
[14:54] <cfhowlett> omrikap, lubuntu + vbox = 8 gb max
[14:54] <dtscode> mcphail: thats what I'm thinking, since its the same behavior on two different machiens
[14:54] <omrikap> daftykins: haha i don't have that much data.. seriously, 32 GB on usb will be OK
[14:54] <mcphail> dtscode: If you get an answer, can you ping me? I'm curious to learn
[14:55] <omrikap> daftykins: it just won't boot.. can you help me with that?
[14:55] <dtscode> mcphail: sure. I am currently contacting digitalocean, so hopefully they will be able to tell me
[14:55] <daftykins> omrikap: no
[14:55] <mcphail> dtscode: good luck
[14:55] <dtscode> thanks
[14:55] <omrikap> daftykins: thanks. good day :)
[14:56] <omrikap> cfhowlett: i gave ubuntu a try, i will with lubuntu, but what against a usb install?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> omrikap, installing to usb, by definition, will be slow and subpar performance.  My $0.02
[14:58] <mcphail> omrikap: I've used USB installs before. They are slow, but usable. Haven't tried on a modern machine
[14:59] <omrikap> mcphail: so the live works fine so far, it just won't save my changes. do you know how to make uefi usb bootable. i tried couple of things, but no luck
[15:00] <mcphail> omrikap: I haven't tried on a uefi machine. I last used this on old hardware
[15:01] <omrikap> mcphail: how did you install?
[15:01] <abb0> what does -y at the end of a cmd mean
[15:01] <abb0> jus curious
[15:01] <mcphail> omrikap: just used the installer (from CD in those days) and chose USB as my install drive
[15:01] <cfhowlett> abb0, depends on the command
[15:01] <SchrodingersScat> abb0: depends on the command, if it was apt-get that can mean 'yes'
[15:02] <abb0> o ok
[15:02] <abb0> it was an apt get
[15:02] <abb0> ty ;)
[15:02] <abb0> ive been learnin via youtube last week, only ask when im really unsure of what things mean. appreciate the answers tho guys ;)
[15:02] <mcphail> omrikap: occasionally had to tweak the init process as the drive would take a bit of time to come up, but otherwise just functioned like a normal install
[15:02] <SchrodingersScat> abb0: you can always try man, man apt-get, or often --help brings up help
[15:03] <cfhowlett> abb0, suggestion: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads        dl/read #0, repeat #1 ... #2 ...
[15:03] <omrikap> mcphail: thanks. i'll let you know later how it worked for me.
[15:03] <mcphail> omrikap: good luck
[15:04] <abb0> thanks cfhowlett
[15:04] <OerHeks> ...#99
[15:04] <abb0> am now ;)
[15:04] <omrikap> mcphail: thank you. have a nice day :)
[15:04] <cfhowlett> abb0, happy2help!
[15:04] <Fudster> Anyone have any idea how to fix this? http://i.imgur.com/iyTTDr4.png
[15:04] <TomyWork> hi
[15:04] <omrikap> cfhowlett: thanks for the advice :)
[15:04] <abb0> man apt-get? what does man do
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !man | abb0
[15:05] <TomyWork> i'm trying to build my own proxychains in a 32 bit and a 64 bit variety. where do i put the resulting libs so they dont conflict?
[15:05] <omrikap> quit
[15:05] <abb0> ahh
[15:05] <abb0> i gotta realize most are abbriviations and easier to figure out then i think lol
[15:05] <cfhowlett> omrikap, happy2help!
[15:05] <TomyWork> i tried /usr/local/lib{32,64} but that didnt work out
[15:19] <Melio> I was able to change the way windows shutsdown so it won't hibernate so linux can access the drives when dualbooted
[15:19] <Melio> yay!
[15:33] <abb0> what does no d-bus interface mean? im trying to mount a hdd. a secondary hdd, it sees it but wont mount it. perhaps its not formatted so linux can read it, perhaps i should format it to ext4 or w/e so it can be used by linux?
[15:33] <EriC^^> abb0: what does sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt say?
[15:34] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l to get the partitions
[15:34] <Hounddog> Hey i need to restart a service every 5 minutes from crontab... i cant seem to get it working */5 * * * * root service elephone-worker-elasticsearch restart
[15:35] <syntroPi> When i bookmark a location in nautilus: how can i rearrange the bookmark in the left sidebar and move it upwards?
[15:36] <cariveri> Hi
[15:36] <somsip> Hounddog: use absolute paths, but supervisor might be a better solution
[15:37] <cariveri> I get failed to fetch errors von I apt-get update on saucy repos. is that normal now? do I have to fetch from a newer ubuntu release?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> !saucy | cariveri
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> cariveri  yes, saucy is dead
[15:37] <cfhowlett> cariveri, strongly urge you to install a supported OS; 14.04.03
[15:37] <Hounddog> somsip: just trying with absolute path */1 * * * * /etc/init.d/elephone-worker-elasticsearch restart
[15:38] <cariveri> Ok. how do I sanely upgrade now?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> cariveri, download the .iso, make a USB, boot USB install or !eolupgrade
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> cariveri  backup and fresh install is fastest, easiest, cleanest
[15:40] <Hounddog> somsip: and what is the benefit of using "supervisor"?
[15:41] <somsip> !info supervisor | Hounddog
[15:41] <somsip> Hounddog: it controls the process state for you, so you don't have to restart services yourself contiunously
[15:41] <huttan> '
[15:41] <Hounddog> somsip: this one i have to restart continuously
[15:41] <gotcha> hey guys, quick question, is there a way to know if a certain program is installed using apt-get ?
[15:42] <Hounddog> it starts hanging and has a memory leak somewhere and i have no time to fix this right now
[15:42] <cfhowlett> gotcha, dpkg -l | grep packagename
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  apt-cache policy
[15:42] <cfhowlett> or apt-cache policy
[15:43] <Hounddog> anyway i used the absolute path and its not restarting the service
[15:43] <gotcha> thanks
[15:43] <gotcha> apt-cache policy didnt list it for me
[15:43] <gotcha> but when i search using dpkg it showed up
[15:44] <gotcha> is there a reason why certain packages are updated for ubuntu 15 and not for 14.04 ?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> gotcha, apt-cache policy PackageName
[15:45] <gotcha> yup found it
[15:45] <cfhowlett> gotcha, 14.04 is Long Term Support.  non-LTS are more bleeding/bloody edge.
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  there may be different versions in the repos
[15:45] <ubuntu-amd> "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, giving up!!!" - does this mean the GPU is not working?
[15:45] <fellayaboy> if i dd if=/dev/zero to a sdcard.  will that also get rid of all partitions
[15:45] <gotcha> im asking because redmine for ubuntu 14.04 has version 2.4, when the package for ubuntu 15 has the latest redmine 3.X
[15:46] <gotcha> is it possible to install redmine 3.x from 15 on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  try the !backports
[15:46] <gotcha> !backports
[15:47] <ubuntu-amd> "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, giving up!!!" - does this mean the GPU is not working/broken?
[15:47] <cariveri> MonkeyDust: can't I just fetch from a newer release? I dont have to time for a complete reinstall right now. but I would like to install one allication.
[15:47] <cfhowlett> cariveri, install from source
[15:49] <ubuntu-amd> "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, giving up!!!" - does this mean the GPU is not working? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12048853/)
[15:51] <gotcha> MonkeyDust, i already have this enabled deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  yes, now try sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade
[15:52] <ubuntu-amd> "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, giving up!!!" - does this mean the GPU is not working? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12048853/)
[15:53] <pauljw_> quit
[15:53] <gotcha> MonkeyDust, after i would just do "apt-get install redmine/trusty-backports ?
[15:54] <gotcha> or do i need to add the vivid backports?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> gotcha, do not mix your repos!
[15:56] <ubuntu-amd> "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, giving up!!!" - does this mean the GPU is not working? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12048853/)
[15:57] <teward> !repeat | ubuntu-amd
[15:59] <Guest12584> join #aaa801
[15:59] <Guest12584> hello
[15:59] <aaa801> wait what
[15:59] <aaa801> i have my own chan now O_o?
[15:59] <KotoRez> i need to run Mac on my virtualbox to test something for one of my users. Does anyone know a safe place to download Mac Os?
[15:59] <teward> KotoRez: nowhere - it violates licensing
[15:59] <aaa801> KotoRez: good luck getting osx running in a virtualbox
[15:59] <RileyTL> O_o
[15:59] <cfhowlett> KotoRez, ask apple.  not supported here.  (obviously)
[16:00] <aaa801> its a pain in the freking arse :)
[16:00] <KotoRez> lol
[16:00] <teward> KotoRez: Ask Apple.  Also consider they say "No" because you can only virtualize Mac on Apple
[16:00] <ghiles> no wmware
[16:00] <gotcha> you can use vmware to virtualize anything
[16:00] <KotoRez> just wanted to check if they have IPsec client installed by default. Windows doesnt.
[16:00] <Hounddog> So it seems that crontab cannot restart a service....
[16:00] <aaa801> however, mac also has this amazing bug where it dumps all the desktop opengl buffer into application opengl buffers
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> KotoRez  better ask in ##apple, but i guess they won't be anxious to help
[16:01] <aaa801> which makes for fun game porting
[16:01] <aaa801> >_.
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> enthousiastic*
[16:01] <cfhowlett> aaa801, this is a support channel.  your question is ... ?
[16:01] <ghiles> le vmware est plus puissant
[16:01] <aaa801> cfhowlett: what the heck you on about, ive been here for months.. some dipshit highlighted me
[16:01] <aaa801> ;)
[16:02] <ghiles> i spicke franche
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[16:02] <ubuntu-amd> "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, giving up!!!" - does this mean the GPU is not working? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12048853/)
[16:02]  * cfhowlett makes a new entry to the /ignore list
[16:03] <RileyTL> no kidding
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-amd  stop pasting that please, it's disturbing
[16:03] <ghiles> tanks
[16:03] <teward> KotoRez: they do, i know because there's apple systems at this workplace.  But whether it actually supports everything IPSec offers, is questionable
[16:04] <teward> but also irrelevant here
[16:04] <Hounddog> http://pastebin.com/E1KY6Le6 manually starting the service works but the crontab does nothing
[16:06] <TJ-> Hounddog: cron will email the user, or write to logs... have you checked those?
[16:08] <Hounddog> TJ-: cat /var/log/syslog | grep crontab
[16:08] <Hounddog> only shows me that i edited
[16:08] <TJ-> Hounddog: "grep cron /var/log/syslog"
[16:09] <TJ-> Hounddog: Or add grep's  "-i"  for even more results
[16:09] <Hounddog> Aug 10 16:08:01 ip-10-0-0-250 CRON[21146]: (root) CMD (/etc/init.d/elephone-worker-elasticsearch restart)
[16:09] <Hounddog> it is doing it....
[16:09] <ghiles> I can demender you quistion
[16:10] <TJ-> Hounddog: OK, that's an advance. Now you need to consider if /etc/init.d/elephone... script expects something in the shell environment that isn't available when run by cron
[16:10] <Pici> !fr| ghiles
[16:10] <Hounddog> TJ-: it doesnt expect anything
[16:10] <Hounddog> i created that service so i am pretty sure about it.
[16:11] <Hounddog> as mentioned also when i manually restart there is no issue
[16:11] <TJ-> Hounddog: I'll bet it does... like it expects certain entries in PATH which aren't there when cron runs it... refer to all executables by their absolute paths to be sure
[16:12] <TJ-> Hounddog: right - and when you run it manually the shell environment is different, usually has a lot more in it
[16:12] <Hounddog> TJ-: * * * * * /etc/init.d/elephone-worker-elasticsearch restart
[16:12] <Hounddog> how do i get more absolute then this?
[16:12] <TJ-> Hounddog: I mean " /etc/init.d/elephone-worker-elasticsearch"
[16:12] <x4w3> Hounddog: absolute path to elephone-worker-elasticsearch.
[16:13] <TJ-> Hounddog: something that script expects is likely not present in the environment that cron uses
[16:13] <Hounddog> hmmm
[16:13] <TJ-> Hounddog: usually the PATH is not so complete as with an interactive shell, so using absolute paths to executables is helpful
[16:13] <Hounddog> http://pastebin.com/F1JfKJqA
[16:13] <Hounddog> these are the paths i run.... absolut
[16:14] <TJ-> Hounddog: is that the complete file? there's no start/restart stanzas
[16:15] <syntroPi> can someone reveal the black magic required to rearrange bookmarks ordering in nautilus?
[16:15] <Pici> /36/36
[16:15] <Hounddog> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/3HhKrWcK
[16:15] <EriC^^> syntroPi: hold your breath, click on bookmarks in the global menu, then click on bookmarks, arrange away..
[16:15] <EriC^^> i mean, abra ka dabra
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> *magic*
[16:17] <ghiles> yess
[16:17] <syntroPi> EriC^^, hmm i just can rearrange my bookmark there, others are grayed out. Rearranging it there does not have any effect on the position in the left sidebar in nautilus
[16:17] <syntroPi> tried that already before
[16:18] <Hounddog> TJ-: eveything is absolut in there
[16:18] <syntroPi> killing nautilus and restarting it also doesnt change bookmarks position
[16:19] <Hounddog> TJ-: any more ideas?
[16:19] <x4w3> Hounddog: permissions?
[16:20] <Hounddog> sudo...
[16:20] <syntroPi> hence my question for black magic: in gnome it seems there is always some hidden inside information required to do everyday tasks
[16:20] <Hounddog> i put the crontab in sudo
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> sudo crontab -e
[16:21] <Hounddog> MonkeyDust: is that for me?
[16:21] <EriC^^> syntroPi: i've arranged them once before, can't seem to remember how
[16:22] <linocisco> hi all
[16:22] <Hounddog> MonkeyDust: if you wrote that for me. If you read the whole conversation and look at the PASTEBIN you would see that i am using exactly THAT COMMAND
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> Hounddog  if you want to create a cron task for actions tat require root permission
[16:22] <linocisco> what is the latest book on ubuntu?
[16:22] <linocisco> hi all
[16:22] <x4w3> Hounddog: put the script in other location ie: /usr/local/bin/
[16:23] <cfhowlett> linocisco, books are on Amazon ...
[16:23] <Hounddog> MonkeyDust: thx for telling me something i KNOW and mentioned in the PASTEBIN
[16:23] <cfhowlett> Hounddog, chillax, man.
[16:23] <ubuntu-amd> Does this mean the GPU is not working? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12048853/) also sudo aticonfig --initial aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[16:24] <Hounddog> cfhowlett: sorry but it frustrates when people throw something out without looking at the information as if they have some kind of turret syndrom which just makes them spurt out some information
[16:24] <OerHeks> ubuntu-amd, please don't crosspost, you have been answered > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=179970
[16:24] <TJ-> Hounddog: I'd capture the results of progress in the init.d script by having it write messages to a separate file, as in "echo 'start() called' >> /tmp/service.log " and so on... output the return value of start-stop-daemon too, in case it is error-ing.
[16:24] <linocisco> cfhowlett, namely please
[16:24] <Hounddog> TJ-: ok, i will try that
[16:24] <cfhowlett> linocisco, www.amazon.com     search term ubuntu   sort by date
[16:25] <TJ-> Hounddog: Try to narrow down the source of the failure until you have firm evidence :)
[16:25] <linocisco> cfhowlett, since ubuntu 8.04 , i think hardy , I was away from ubuntu and I dont have latest eboook
[16:25] <syntroPi> EriC^^, do you know if there is a wiki or something like that for gnome hidden insiders information?
[16:25] <rcw2> anyone know why this would still download html files? wget -r -P . -np -A jpeg,jpg,bmp,gif,png "http://www.site.com/path1/"
[16:25] <Hounddog> TJ-: i am considering to just let it be and restart it every now and then....
[16:26] <lrojas> hi all, how can i find out who is in charge of maintaining the vagrant box for ubuntu in hashicorp atlas
[16:26] <Hounddog> am on holiday and boss called me in for this shit... i am not even a sysadmin
[16:26] <ubuntu-amd> OerHeks: I found that thread by myself already and it doesn't mention how the problem has to be fixed or what's the real problem
[16:26] <TJ-> Hounddog: Well,  with evidence of why, you can punt the problem back  :) Maybe someone changed something and didn't tell you
[16:27] <Hounddog> am just logging off now... no patience to search for this
[16:27] <Hounddog> TJ-: thx for the help though
[16:29] <linocisco> hi all, i m using mobile broadband GSM internet via USB modem. I know USSD code to check current balance . I dont know how to type in CLI
[16:29] <EriC^^> syntroPi: i found this but.. well you'll see http://askubuntu.com/questions/325518/how-can-i-edit-nautilus-places-sidebar-and-unity-quicklist
[16:30] <EriC^^> it basically entails modifying the source code and then installing the package
[16:30] <x4w3> TJ-: if you run bash script in debug mode with <bash -x> in crontab, script will output better than "echo 'start() called' >> /tmp/service.log "?
[16:31] <x4w3> TJ-: is a curiosity only, :).
[16:32] <TJ-> x4w3: possibly, but then you're changing the shell which might cause things to behave differently... I always prefer the least invasive change when tracking down subtle bugs.
[16:32] <rcw2> wget -r -P . -np -A jpeg,jpg,bmp,gif,png --level=5 "http://www.website.com/path1/"    <--- should this check all the img src= paths and get the resulting images?
[16:32] <x4w3> both of them will be good. Tq.
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> rcw2  if you don't get an answer here, try in #bash
[16:33] <rcw2> MonkeyDust:  thanks
[16:37] <moritz705> hello
[16:38] <artois> hi mor
[16:38] <moritz705> Hello sir
[16:38] <moritz705> was macht ihr?
[16:39] <cfhowlett> !de | moritz705
[16:39] <moritz705> ok mister ubuntu fan
[16:40] <baizon> !offtopic
[16:40] <moritz705> made
[16:40] <ghiles> yes seanux basic to ubentu
[16:41] <moritz705> my frand install kubuntu is thet god
[16:41] <moritz705> ?
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !kubuntu | moritz705
[16:41] <ghiles> no seanux very goood
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> moritz705  try it, to find out if you like it
[16:41] <moritz705> cool
[16:41] <linocisco> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.Error.Core.Failed: Sending USSD command failed
[16:42] <moritz705> i have ubuntu 15.04 vivid vervet
[16:42] <ghiles> noo the sea nux very very goood to hacking
[16:42] <cfhowlett> ghiles, this is ubuntu support.  your question is ???
[16:43] <cofo> hi
[16:43] <cofo> i open terminal and it hie
[16:43] <ghiles> hi
[16:43] <cofo> i can only see it in ful lscreen
[16:43] <cofo> full screen*, *hide
[16:43] <ghiles> yes
[16:43] <cofo> when i click f11 it hide again but the menu bar is shown
[16:43] <cofo> a little help could help
[16:44] <ghiles> in kali linux or back track
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> cofo  what do you want, then?
[16:44] <cofo> it's ubuntu
[16:44] <cfhowlett> ghiles, offtopic and not supported here.
[16:44] <ghiles> ahhh yes
[16:44] <cofo> i feel being troll
[16:44] <cofo> i will try other channel
[16:45] <ghiles> le quelle *
[16:45] <NaStYdoG> 7
[16:45] <cfhowlett> hexchat question: is there a maximum number of entries to the /ignore list?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> cofo  you're no troll, it's just not clear what you want
[16:45] <cofo> no
[16:46] <cfhowlett> %v
[16:47] <crispexi> Ubuntu 14.04 - users & root cannot change password. passwd returns "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error". drive is mounted RW, time check is fine, permissions are good, I'm leaning towards pam auth but not sure where to proceed with that?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  try   '/ignore age < 16'
[16:47] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, lol.  will do.
[16:47] <ghiles> he yas girls
[16:47] <EriC^^> crispexi: try to strace it maybe
[16:48] <cofo> help?
[16:49] <ghiles> I need help with the new vertion seanux
[16:50] <mcphail> cofo: please take some time to rephrase your question and we will help if we can. If English is not your native language you may be better asking in another channel
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> ghiles that's not supported here, you're in the wrong channel
[16:51] <mcphail> ghiles: please stop going on about that. It is offtopic
[16:51] <cofo> No need
[16:51] <genii> cofo: Describe your problem to the channel, and a helper will probably try to assist you
[16:51] <cofo> genii: i already saw mcphail comment
[16:52] <t-nelson> Any GRUB pros around?  I have a notebook where the bootloader is corrupted by switching boot from UEFI to CSM/Legacy.
[16:52] <t-nelson> Running boot-repair from install medium fixes it.
[16:53] <cofo> A terminal in ubuntu often hide and I can see his menu bar when I click on that tab and see it only in full screen
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> cofo  F11 to un-fullscreen, or move the mouse to an edge of the terminal window, then resize it
[16:55] <linocisco> hi all
[16:55] <linocisco> I can't figure out why my ubuntu 15.04 froze for a few mins and even Ctrl+Alt+Del could not help. there was no way to bring it back to work during that period without doing anything
[16:56] <t-nelson> linocisco: Which gfx vendor?
[16:56] <cofo> Any help can help
[16:56] <cofo> genii: mcphail:
[16:58] <genii> cofo: MonkeyDust already gave you something to try, did you see if that resolved your issue?
[17:00] <cofo> Who?
[17:00] <cofo> He didn't give
[17:00] <xander1> Hi there, anyone that can help me? My xorg.conf doesnt seem to apply on startup. Keeps resetting back to default settings. Using i3-wm, but login screen is lightdm. Any help is appreciated
[17:01] <mcphail> cofo: what happens if you double-click on the middle of the menu bar?
[17:01] <genii> cofo: Yes, they did.. "[12:54:19] <MonkeyDust> cofo  F11 to un-fullscreen, or move the mouse to an edge of the terminal window, then resize it"
[17:01] <cofo> f11 do nothing
[17:02] <cofo> nothing
[17:03] <t-nelson> cofo: what's your issue?
[17:03] <cofo> damn
[17:03] <cofo> sorry
[17:03]  * t-nelson just joined
[17:03] <cofo> I can't even open it windowed only full screen
[17:04] <cofo> that's not work
[17:06] <t-nelson> cofo: what's your issue?
[17:06] <t-nelson> cofo: what's your issue?
[17:07] <crispexi> EriC^^: thanks, strace narrowed it down to passwd not being able to read /etc/shadow heh
[17:07] <minimec> xander1: still there?
[17:07] <EriC^^> crispexi: ah
[17:07] <crispexi> phew. now i can relax haha
[17:08] <cofo> i wrote it
[17:09] <cofo> nvm i will handle it
[17:09] <t-nelson> cofo: Yes, before I joined.
[17:09] <t-nelson> Good.
[17:09] <cofo>  I can't even open it windowed only full screen
[17:09] <cofo> 8:03
[17:10] <t-nelson> How do you think this works?
[17:10] <t-nelson> I joined after you typed that, I will never receive that message.
[17:10] <t-nelson> Paste it again.
[17:11] <cofo> A terminal opened I can't view it in window only in full screen. I view it using f11 key
[17:11]  * artois gives t-nelson a time machine
[17:11] <artois> t-nelson: never say never
[17:12] <cofo> t-nelson:
[17:12] <cofo> Did you see my message?
[17:12] <t-nelson> cofo: yes
[17:12] <t-nelson> cofo: You still see window decorations?
[17:17] <syntroPi> which program is the recommended way to scan for dvb-c transponders nowerdays?
[17:18] <bipul> Hi.
[17:22] <Guest15404> Hello, anyone from Port Elizabeth?
[17:23] <t-nelson> syntroPi: One of the pvr backends probably.
[17:24] <t-nelson> vdr, tvheadend, etc
[17:24] <minimec> syntroPi: I still have one of these in my computer, but cannot use it anymore. No analogue TV anymore in my country. I would start with section "Scanning for channels" from here... https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Adding_Digital_Cable_Channels_For_DVB-C_Tuner_Cards_--_Norway#Scanning_for_channels_.5B7.5D
[17:26] <OerHeks> !info w-scan
[17:26] <minimec> syntroPi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=dvb-apps&searchon=names
[17:26] <OerHeks> VLC should work > http://askubuntu.com/questions/20204/which-application-do-you-recommend-for-watching-tv-dvb
[17:26] <misho_> Hello everyone...i still have one strange problem on my linux pc
[17:27] <syntroPi> OerHeks, i tried w_scan but it freezes on one transponder everytime
[17:27]  * t-nelson Must. Resist. Click-bait.
[17:28] <syntroPi> t-nelson, which scanning tool would you recommend instead of w_scan?
[17:28] <TJ-> !info dvb-apps | syntroPi
[17:28] <misho_> I'm trying to watch a move via shared local network...everything is normal i have right to rename,copy,delete files on other windows PC...but VLC can't open video file trought local network
[17:28] <NetworkingPro> Anyone know bash well?   If so, any idea how to script the same application over and over and have it fork each time?
[17:29] <t-nelson> syntroPi:
[17:29] <t-nelson> 11:23:30 < t-nelson> syntroPi: One of the pvr backends probably.
[17:29] <t-nelson> 11:24:16 < t-nelson> vdr, tvheadend, etc
[17:29] <TJ-> NetworkingPro: the script fork, or the application it launches?
[17:29] <t-nelson> I don't watch livetv, so don't mess with that stuff.
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> NetworkingPro  the "i love you" virus some 10 years ago, was a script that forked itself each time
[17:30] <t-nelson> NetworkingPro: You trying to fork-bomb someone? :)
[17:30] <cfhowlett> NetworkingPro, #bash would know
[17:30] <NetworkingPro> t-nelson:
[17:30] <NetworkingPro> more or less
[17:30] <xander1> Can someone provide me some help, my xorg.conf doesnt seem to apply at startup. When using  i3/lightm, either.
[17:30] <NetworkingPro> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aVgj24ep/
[17:31] <t-nelson> Then google bash fork-bomb
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> NetworkingPro  how leagal is what you want to do?
[17:31] <syntroPi> minimec, TJ- so dvb-apps /usr/bin/dvbscan is the way to scan nowerdays?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> legal*
[17:31] <NetworkingPro> need it to create MonkeyDust 100% legal
[17:31] <NetworkingPro> load testing my servers
[17:31] <t-nelson> Oh I wouldn't do that in a tty
[17:32] <t-nelson> Need to do it in a GUI terminal where when you kill the window it kills the proc.
[17:32] <NetworkingPro> theres no way to fork it where it doesnt die?
[17:32] <minimec> syntroPi: I guess that still works, but I cannot confirm and test it anymore.
[17:33] <TJ-> NetworkingPro: surround the statements in "while true; do"   .... "done"
[17:33] <t-nelson> ^^
[17:33] <t-nelson> I hope you have physical access to this server.
[17:34] <t-nelson> Or free hands-on support at the DC. :)
[17:34] <minimec> syntroPi: I used this app to watch tv http://tv-viewer.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[17:34] <misho_> I'm trying to watch a movie via shared local network...everything is normal i have right to rename,copy,delete files on other windows PC...but VLC can't open video file trought local network
[17:35] <TJ-> vlc is good for DVB viewing
[17:35] <minimec> syntroPi: source code is here now https://github.com/crapp/tv-viewer
[17:35] <t-nelson> misho_: Use file browser to browse LAN, right-click, open with vlc.
[17:36] <t-nelson> Ubuntu will soft-mount the share and it will appear local to vlc.
[17:36] <OerHeks> TJ-, my thought too, i guess that stream is encrypted with drm
[17:36] <syntroPi> TJ-, yes i like vlc because it can timeshift to /tmp but i need a working channels.conf or xspf before
[17:36] <syntroPi> minimec, i used me-tv before
[17:36] <NetworkingPro> TJ-: tried that.. thanks but it didn't really fork it.
[17:36] <NetworkingPro> t-nelson: I do
[17:37] <TJ-> syntroPi: Yeah, I found dvbscan to be fine... once the antenna could find the signal :)
[17:37] <syntroPi> though that also needs to have a working channels.conf imported
[17:37] <TJ-> NetworkingPro: I'm not sure what you want to fork? The script itself, or the application it is starting?
[17:38] <NetworkingPro> TJ-: the openvpn client
[17:38] <NetworkingPro> want to be able to spawn say 10 running clients
[17:38] <TJ-> NetworkingPro: then its up to openvpn to fork itself.
[17:38] <syntroPi> minimec, does that  TV-Viewer support time shifting (e.g. pause) on live tv?
[17:38] <minimec> syntroPi: I remember me-tv. Another nice one is/was tvtime http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/ , but me-tv and tvtime did not work with my hardware encoding ivtv device.
[17:38] <syntroPi> me-tv does not support time shifting
[17:38] <t-nelson> NetworkingPro: Are you detaching it?
[17:39] <t-nelson> ie. your-cmd &
[17:39] <NetworkingPro> so the &
[17:39] <NetworkingPro> i was doing &&
[17:39] <NetworkingPro> guess thats diff, my bad
[17:39] <minimec> syntroPi: if using an ivtv based card it might... I don't remember anymore. I had them set up in mythtv too, and used time shifting there...
[17:40] <syntroPi> minimec, for timeshifting reasons i really liked vlc because one just can press pause there and it will cache live tv to /tmp
[17:40] <minimec> syntroPi: Nice!
[17:40] <t-nelson> NetworkingPro: cmd1 && cmd2, will run cmd2 only if cmd1 succeeds. cmd1 &, will run cmd1 and immediately background it.
[17:41] <NetworkingPro> t-nelson: that was it...
[17:41] <NetworkingPro> thanks
[17:41] <NetworkingPro> lol
[17:41] <kes0> Anyone who have try ubuntu on lg g2?
[17:41] <t-nelson> NetworkingPro: np
[17:41] <cfhowlett> !touch | kes0
[17:42] <kes0> Thanks
[17:43] <misho_> t-nelson, i don't have problem with opening...i believe that i have some kind of problem with network sharing thechnology used by Linux
[17:43] <t-nelson> misho_: It's just Samba
[17:44] <minimec> kes0: doesn't so good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=82de7372986425f9ae9f92a730629d40&t=2540073&page=4 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/LG%20G2%28Sprint%29
[17:46] <t-nelson> misho_: Maybe you need to better describe your issue.
[17:46] <misho_> t-nelson,  http://i59.tinypic.com/wmmu0z.png
[17:47] <t-nelson> misho_: "no access module"
[17:52] <aaron> hoiiiii
[17:53] <kes0> minimec: Damn, thanks.
[17:54] <t-nelson> misho_: The method I first described works fine here.
[17:54] <t-nelson> misho_: How are you passing hte smb:// path to vlc?
[17:55] <misho_> t-nelson, good question - maybe only VLC can't understand the path?
[17:56] <t-nelson> misho_: Yes, that's what the log implies.
[17:56] <t-nelson> It has no handler for smb protocol
[17:56] <t-nelson> Which is short for Samba
[17:56] <misho_> t-nelson, the how can i fix that?
[17:57] <t-nelson> misho_: 11:35:58 < t-nelson> misho_: Use file browser to browse LAN, right-click, open with vlc.
[17:57] <t-nelson> That works fine for me.
[17:57] <t-nelson> I have no idea how you're passing the path to vlc.
[17:58] <misho_> t-nelson, it is happened again the same
[18:00] <misho_> the stream can't open
[18:02] <OerHeks> Is this possible, streaming a .mkv with SMB  ??
[18:03] <misho_> i don't find any reason why not... is there something special in .mkv?
[18:03] <bujji> about information security
[18:03] <mcphail> OerHeks: of course
[18:03] <t-nelson> misho_: In VLC, under Tools > plugins and extenstions, is there a "SMB Input" entry?
[18:05] <artois> wouldn't really call it streaming, but you'd get the same end result, sure
[18:05] <afflicto> Hi. What's the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[18:05] <mcphail> misho_: what version of Ubuntu are you running, and what desktop environment are you using? This may not work unless you are using a desktop environment such as Unity or GNOME
[18:05] <OerHeks> !dist-upgrade
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> afflicto  i guess dist-upgrade removes older packages
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  was faster
[18:06] <misho_> mcphail, i'm using Ubuntu_Mate 15.04
[18:06] <afflicto> Ok, I'm just looking to stay up-to-date on my 14.04 VPS. I'll use dist-upgrade then.
[18:06] <misho_> t-nelson, where should be located SMB input
[18:07] <t-nelson> misho_: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-samba
[18:07] <t-nelson> It's not builtin anymore.
[18:07] <mcphail> misho_: I don't know if MATE supports this
[18:08] <misho_> t-nelson, after that do i need a restart?
[18:08] <t-nelson> misho_: Only need to restart vlc
[18:09] <misho_> t-nelson, APPLAUSE!!!
[18:09] <misho_> t-nelson,  it is working now
[18:09] <t-nelson> Indeed :)
[18:09] <misho_> Many thanks
[18:10] <t-nelson> NP
[18:16] <misho_> t-nelson, can i ask one more thing?
[18:17] <misho_> it is about this HexChat
[18:18] <t-nelson> misho_: I dunno anything about hexchat, sorry.
[18:18] <t-nelson> It is some xchat port?
[18:18] <t-nelson> Err, not port, fork.
[18:18] <OerHeks> xchat is discontinued, indeed, hexchat is the new fork
[18:18] <UbuntuNewb> hello
[18:19] <misho_> Because i am from Bulgaria and default alphabet is cyrillic...i can't see properly when someone is writing on cyrillic fonts
[18:19] <misho_> yes,correctly
[18:19] <UbuntuNewb> Is there somebody here that can help me get mail working on ubuntu? I have a google apps account, and I am trying to get all mail sent from my ubuntu server to relay the mail through google apps
[18:19] <t-nelson> misho_: Look around  for character encoding and make sure it is set to utf-8
[18:20] <t-nelson> Also maybe need to change to a font that has the proper glyphs
[18:21] <drfoobaz> I just finished installing Ubuntu Gnome, but the usb drive I installed from still shows up in nautilus. How do I get rid of it? http://imgur.com/BU98LrI,Cige5an
[18:21] <UbuntuNewb> I've been trying to get it working for a while, and I can't seem to get it to work.
[18:21] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: It's unmounted, just pull it out.
[18:22] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: "Pull it out?"
[18:22] <t-nelson> Yes, remove it from the USB port
[18:22] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Oh, I should clarify that it isn't plugged in.
[18:23] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: Oh :)
[18:23] <UbuntuNewb> Or if I can't get help in here, is there a ubuntu wiki guide that explains it?
[18:23] <t-nelson> Logout/back in?
[18:23] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Will try. I'll report back.
[18:24] <t-nelson> UbuntuNewb: You need to talk to Google then, not Ubuntu.
[18:24] <t-nelson> Err, wait. No I read that backwards.
[18:25] <UbuntuNewb> t-nelson: It's got nothing to do with google, other than using them as the account. I am trying to configure ubuntu mail system up to use it
[18:25] <t-nelson> It's a mail server you're configuring, not a client.  Right?
[18:25] <looking4u> musta
[18:25] <KernalPaniced> I installed Ubuntu and got a kernal panic..
[18:25] <UbuntuNewb> yeah
[18:25] <KernalPaniced> the first line said "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)"
[18:26] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Logged out, also tried restarting. It still shows up in Nautilus. :(
[18:26] <UbuntuNewb> My local mail server, so that when mail is sent out, it relays to google mail
[18:26] <KernalPaniced> or something like that
[18:26] <UbuntuNewb> instead of sending from the local server
[18:26] <sveinse> Is it possible to run the ubuntu installer from an already booted machine (from USB)? I have a system which is unable to boot from USB, but I have been able to boot a rescue linux system on it and have full access to the USB drive
[18:26] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: Is it listed when running "mount" in a terminal?
[18:26] <KernalPaniced> If i redo the usb once again, would it allow me to do a repair of Ubuntu?
[18:28] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: I don't think so. http://i.imgur.com/ARzsg3J.png
[18:28] <squinty> UbuntuNewb:   might want to check out   plop   which is a boot cd that makes usb booting possible on machines that can't boot via usb. http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
[18:29] <ioria> drfoobaz,  what is /dev/sdb1 ?
[18:29] <ubuntu249> Aight, GRUB was messed up when I first installed Ubuntu about a year ago. It wouldn't let me onto windows 8. I tampered and got to windows 8 in the BIOS, but I can't get to ubuntu. When I start my PC it comes up with a command line and I have to type exit then exit again. I can't get to BIOS. What do I do?
[18:29] <UbuntuNewb> squinty: ?
[18:29] <misho_> t-nelson, i found a solution to my problem - just to know if i ask you one day /charset cp1251
[18:31] <squinty> UbuntuNewb:   download plop    burn it to cd      boot from cd    you will be presented with a menu where you can boot from the usb stick (if your computer has usb ports that is)
[18:31] <UbuntuNewb> squinty- Thanks, but i'm looking for mailserver help, lol
[18:32] <squinty> UbuntuNewb:  oooopsss!! sorry  :(
[18:32] <UbuntuNewb> No worries :)
[18:33] <squinty> sveinse:   http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
[18:33] <KernalPaniced> Why does shit like this always happen to me.. Its just my luck..
[18:33] <KernalPaniced> I install Ubuntu and get a kernal panic..
[18:33] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: Are there any options if you right-click on the usb's entry in nautilus sidebar?
[18:33] <squinty> sveinse: might want to check out   plop   which is a boot cd that makes usb booting possible on machines that can't boot via usb.
[18:33] <Kai> Hey!
[18:34] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Mount and format.
[18:34] <KernalPaniced> lets try this freshly made usb again.. I hope trying to repair ubuntu will work
[18:34] <t-nelson> KernalPaniced: Either your grub is fucked up and specifying the rootfs wrong or your rootfs is on some slow to detect media, like usb.
[18:34] <squinty> hey  watch the language   family channel!!
[18:34] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: Do you get an error if you click mount?
[18:35] <KernalPaniced> t-nelson is grub fixable in those situations?
[18:35] <t-nelson> Pff, this isn't #spongebob.
[18:35] <t-nelson> KernalPaniced: Probably.
[18:35] <squinty> t-nelson:  this is a family channel and swearing is not allowed.  please read the channel rules
[18:35] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Yes. http://i.imgur.com/lcE116s.png /dev/sdb is one of my hard drives now
[18:36] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: It was the usb during the install though, I think.
[18:36] <t-nelson> KernalPaniced: Boot from you usb again and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:37] <t-nelson> squinty: Sure, sure.  It's not like I was swearing AT someone or being inflamitory in the slightest.
[18:37] <ubuntu249> How do I boot from SD card when I have no BIOS? Just the GRUB command line.
[18:37] <t-nelson> No need to be pedantic.
[18:37] <UFO69> any one from Microsoft?
[18:37] <squinty> t-nelson:  makes no difference
[18:37] <t-nelson> Not to a pedant :)
[18:37] <bekks> ubuntu249: What do you have instead, if no BIOS?
[18:37] <Village> Hello Guys, i faced with problem when installing MySQL - "sudo apt-get install mysql-server php5-mysql" i got error - http://pastebin.com/yAA1kJdi maybe who knows what's can be?
[18:38] <ubuntu249> Bekks: it's just the GRUB terminal.
[18:38] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: You must have an entry somewhere.
[18:38] <UFO69> where can i buy new windows?
[18:38] <bekks> ubuntu249: Then you already passed BIOS.
[18:38] <squinty> ubuntu249:  all computer have bios.  bios is accessed from your initial computer boot screen via keys like f12 or esc.   check your computers docs
[18:38] <t-nelson> Probably either in ~/.cache or some dconf setting.
[18:39] <Ben64> Village: paste the full command and output
[18:39] <t-nelson> UFO69: www.pella.com
[18:39] <bekks> squinty: Some have UEFI instead of a BIOS.
[18:39] <squinty> quite aware of that
[18:39] <UFO69> how much
[18:39] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Is there a way to reset nautilus? That might help.
[18:39] <t-nelson> Depends on what you choose.
[18:39] <OerHeks> UFO69, wrong channel. ask in ##windows
[18:40] <ubuntu249> Bekks: How do I put SuperGrub2 on my SD card to then attempt to enter BIOS?
[18:40] <t-nelson> Double-paned will be less than triple, etc.
[18:40] <bekks> ubuntu249: I never used Supergrub, sorry.
[18:40] <ubuntu249> Ah. What else is there to use?
[18:40] <UbuntuNewb> hmm
[18:40] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: Probably.  I dunno  the "right"  way though.
[18:40] <ubuntu249> Universal USB Installer wasn't able to put it on the card.
[18:40] <UbuntuNewb> I really need to get this mail server working
[18:40] <t-nelson> Usually I just go rm'ing anything that looks related in ~/.config
[18:40] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Oh, and ls -R .cache/ | grep nautilus returns nothing.
[18:40] <UFO69> Oe how can i instal new windows?
[18:41] <Ben64> UFO69: ask ##windows
[18:42] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: try grep -ir nautilus .cache
[18:42] <UFO69> windows XP?
[18:42] <t-nelson> ^^ Troll
[18:42] <Ben64> UFO69: join ##windows for windows support, this channel is for Ubuntu only.
[18:43] <UFO69> any one from microsoft?
[18:43] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: Nothing.
[18:43] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: I also read to rest nautilus to remove .gconf/apps/nautilus but I have no such file.
[18:44] <Ben64> UFO69: join ##windows for windows support, this channel is for Ubuntu only. You will find no Microsoft or Windows help here. Please stop asking.
[18:44] <squinty> ubuntu249:  if you are hoping to fix grub, you can just use a ubuntu livedvd and then install boot-repair   see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  for details
[18:44] <t-nelson> Ben64: Just ignore it and it will go away.
[18:44] <UFO69> any admin from Microsoft?
[18:45] <OerHeks> UFO69, you have been answered.
[18:45] <squinty> t-nelson:   you are preaching to someone who has participated in this channel for years
[18:45] <boze> I've tinkered with my computer a bit too much. Mysql dies on boot and I have to /etc/init.d/mysql start to get it to work and I get random ^X in the terminal sporadically. Does that sound like anything?
[18:45] <UFO69> buy windows
[18:45] <boze> D:
[18:46] <t-nelson> squinty: You have a habit of sticking your nose in other people's buisness, eh?
[18:46] <Village> Ben42, ok i will try show you, now i try install from new to VPS..
[18:46] <KernalPaniced> t-nelson on the newly made bootable usb i done a check disk for defects and it said 2 errors found, I was watching it the whole time the text on the screen, and all the errors i saw was something about error mounting dev/sr0
[18:47] <t-nelson> KernalPaniced: sr0 is usually some optical drive.  You have one of those?
[18:47] <KernalPaniced> t-nelson what is optical?
[18:48] <t-nelson> cd/dvd/bluray, etc
[18:48] <squinty> t-nelson:  time to go get your diaper changed little one.  /ignore
[18:48] <t-nelson> Nice, now I can swear again!
[18:49] <OerHeks> carefull t-nelson, with that attitude you are not welcome here.
[18:49] <KernalPaniced> I have a CD-RW Drive and i just tried one of my CDs and it works fine.. I have no floppy drive at all.. is that what you mean t-nelson?
[18:50] <t-nelson> KernalPaniced: Right, so there was no media in it before?
[18:51] <KernalPaniced> correct
[18:51] <_SLM_> Hey, question. Why is default Ubuntu on this older version? Is there a reason for me not upgrade to the latest?
[18:51] <_SLM_> I grabbed the main iso from ubuntu.com few days ago
[18:51] <OerHeks> _SLM_, what older version?
[18:52] <t-nelson> KernalPaniced: You can probably ignore those errors then.
[18:52] <_SLM_> 14
[18:52] <_SLM_> 14.04
[18:52] <EriC^^> _SLM_: that's the lts release
[18:52] <minimec> !LTS | _SLM_
[18:52] <OerHeks> 14.04.3 is the latest LTS, so not old at all.
[18:53] <_SLM_> Yeah, why is it default? Why not get the latest?
[18:53] <_SLM_> Should I upgrade?
[18:53] <_SLM_> I am a lone developer/student
[18:53] <robrobinson> What would be the best channel to get help with incron?
[18:53] <_SLM_> I just want a secure, stable, pretty OS
[18:53] <thepeter-web> Hello all
[18:54] <ioria> _SLM_ that's it
[18:54] <SchrodingersScat> _SLM_: if you want to update less, go with the LTS, if you like upgrading then go 15.04.
[18:54] <_SLM_> isnt 14.04 less secure being older?
[18:55] <bekks> _SLM_: No.
[18:55] <bekks> _SLM_: It receives updates until 2019. So it isnt "old".
[18:55] <SchrodingersScat> _SLM_: should get security updates
[18:56] <ioria> drfoobaz,  check your /etc/fstab ... maybe it's not a usb  device
[18:56] <_SLM_> And 15.04? Also upgrades right?
[18:57] <ioria> _SLM_  it's not LTS
[18:57] <ioria> _SLM_   yes, few months
[18:58] <_SLM_> Is 15.04 faster/prettier/more secure? If not, I'll stick with this
[18:58] <_SLM_> If yes, I'll upgrade
[18:58] <_SLM_> Sorry, but I am used to new=good
[18:58] <_SLM_> this is confusing
[18:58] <_SLM_> for a ubuntu newbie
[18:59] <bekks> _SLM_: new=good is one of the biggest legends :)
[18:59] <ioria> _SLM_   if i may i'd say that not-LTS-release are experimental .... to test it for future stable release
[18:59] <OerHeks> SLM then go for 15.04
[18:59] <berkay> hello
[18:59] <t-nelson> _SLM_: What HW?
[18:59] <t-nelson> You might win with haswell+
[18:59] <_SLM_> 3 people, 3 opinions heh
[18:59] <_SLM_> Intel i5
[18:59] <_SLM_> 6GB ram
[19:00] <_SLM_> Decent GPU
[19:00] <bekks> _SLM_: So just use 14.04 64bit.
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> _SLM_: and thanks to the magic of GPL you can be the 4th :)
[19:00] <t-nelson> _SLM_: Just leave 14.04 then.
[19:00] <thepeter-web> so I have questions about ubuntu on phone (rather about some principles, but also technical) I didn't find answers UTG, can you please point me where to look for them?
[19:00] <t-nelson> That's what I use on my workstation.
[19:00] <OerHeks> !phone
[19:00] <t-nelson> I've got some netbook with some baytrail nightmare SoC.
[19:00] <t-nelson> It works OK with 15.04.
[19:01] <minimec> _SLM_: It's rather easy. With LTS you can stick with your version for 5 years or do a 2 year upgrade cycle (from LTS to the next LTS). If you install a NON LTS version, you have to upgrade all 6-9 months until you reach a LTS version. Then you can choose again...
[19:01] <ludwig> anyone having trouble with their wifi stopping while appearing to be connected?
[19:01] <_SLM_> thanks for the information
[19:02] <_SLM_> This should be in a clear header on ubuntu.com IMO
[19:02] <t-nelson> ludwig: Which chipset?
[19:02] <thepeter-web> thx OerHeks
[19:02] <ludwig> how do I see what my chipset is?
[19:03] <t-nelson> lspci in a terminal
[19:03] <t-nelson> ^^ ludwig
[19:03] <kadiro> lshw ludwig
[19:04] <Cache_Money> What's the deal with the Ubuntu smart phone?  Has anyone used it?
[19:04] <ludwig> tel Corporation 4 Series Chipset
[19:04] <ludwig> intel Corporation 4 series Chipset
[19:05] <t-nelson> Nah looke for "Network Controller: ..."
[19:06] <t-nelson> ^^ ludwig
[19:06] <kadiro> that give me a false response: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2
[19:06] <kadiro> but i think is Ethernet and not Network
[19:06] <ludwig> Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 03)
[19:07] <t-nelson> That's your host bridge, not wifi.
[19:07] <drfoobaz> ioria: http://i.imgur.com/7NZ2C2n.png
[19:07] <t-nelson> Read the descriptions for "wireless"
[19:07] <ludwig> I'm not seeing Network controller listed
[19:07] <t-nelson> ludwig: Is it a usb device?
[19:07] <Village> Ben64, i paste full - http://pastebin.com/WN88i66T OS: Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit)
[19:08] <ludwig> yes
[19:08] <t-nelson> AH :)
[19:08] <t-nelson> lsusb then
[19:08] <ludwig> will check
[19:08] <minimec> Cache_Money: I tried a dev version on my 'Nexus 5'. Let's say ubuntu touch is not yet where it should be... But remember I use a devel version... But there is a lot going on in the near future. Have a look here http://www.olli-ries.com/t-242d/
[19:09] <ludwig> D 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[19:09] <ioria> drfoobaz,  so you have your /home mounted on a different disk , sdc1 ?
[19:10] <drfoobaz> ioria: Different disk yes.
[19:10] <t-nelson> ludwig: Which ubuntu version?
[19:10] <ludwig> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gnome
[19:11] <ioria> drfoobaz,  but your mount says that sdb1 is mounted in /home
[19:12] <drfoobaz> ioria: yeah i think so
[19:12] <mgolisch> so it shows a volume not even connected?
[19:12] <t-nelson> ludwig: Are you using the default 3.13 kernel or the -utopic backports?
[19:12] <t-nelson> ludwig: Which is 3.16
[19:13] <ludwig> t-nelson: I need to know how to check that, major noob
[19:13] <ioria> drfoobaz,  sudo parted -l ?
[19:13] <t-nelson> In terminal, uname -a
[19:13] <Village> Guys, maybe some one knows why error installing - " sudo apt-get install mysql-server php5-mysql " os - Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit). error i paste - http://pastebin.com/WN88i66T ?
[19:13] <mgolisch> drfoobaz: tried gvfs-mount -l it should show which device that volume it shows in nautilus is on
[19:14] <mgolisch> that might help identify where its comming from
[19:14] <mgolisch> it will have the same name as in nautilus there
[19:14] <ludwig> t-nelson: 3.19.0-25-generic
[19:15] <drfoobaz> https://u.teknik.io/1PYG8b.png
[19:16] <t-nelson> mgolisch: sudo apt-get install dialog
[19:17] <ludwig> by the looks of it it's 3.19
[19:17] <t-nelson> ludwig: Yes.
[19:17] <ioria> drfoobaz,  you have no sdc ...
[19:17] <ludwig> any idea as to what's up?
[19:17] <t-nelson> You might need some parameters to pass to the kernel module
[19:18] <Village> os - Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit). error - http://pastebin.com/WN88i66T  someone please check and maybe knows why it's error
[19:18] <drfoobaz> ioria: I think sdc was the usb I installed from then.
[19:18] <ioria> drfoobaz,  your fstab says that your /home is in sdc1
[19:18] <drfoobaz> ioria: Oh.
[19:18] <mgolisch> no it says it was
[19:19] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: I have rtl8723be wifi and it was behaving similarly.  Stayed associated with AP, but data stopped.
[19:19] <t-nelson> I added some module params and it works fine now.
[19:20] <drfoobaz> I'm tempted to just install again, but be more careful with the partitions and when I remove the usb.
[19:20] <drfoobaz> I'm wondering if I unplugged it before everything was finished.
[19:20] <t-nelson> Err sorry, my last messages were for ludwig not drfoobaz
[19:20] <mgolisch> so what is the name of the volume that shows in nautilus?
[19:21] <drfoobaz> mgolisch: "Ubuntu-GNOME 14.04.3 LTS amd64"
[19:21] <ludwig> I've posted a thread in how do I add those parameters then?
[19:21] <mgolisch> according to gvfs-mount thats on your second disk sdb
[19:21] <ioria> Eric^^ are you there ?
[19:21] <t-nelson> ludwig: You need to find out what the parameters are first.
[19:21] <t-nelson> They're driver specific.
[19:22] <ludwig> terminal code to find them?
[19:22] <t-nelson> ludwig: No
[19:22] <ioria> drfoobaz,  i think you have to correct you fstab, replacing the uid and the partition name
[19:23] <kadiro> right ioria
[19:23] <drfoobaz> ioria: ok
[19:23] <ludwig> Oh well, I've posted a thread in the forum. I'll see if it get's answered. Thanks for the help t-nelson
[19:23] <mgolisch> ioria: why?
[19:24] <ioria> drfoobaz,  you can get the uid with sudo blkid
[19:24] <drfoobaz> thx
[19:24] <mgolisch> the uuid should not be wrong if ubuntu was just installed
[19:24] <mgolisch> unless the filesystem was reinitialized inbetween or something
[19:24] <kadiro> mgolisch: the problem i guess is a third hdd
[19:24] <ioria> mgolisch, his fstab says that /home is sdc1   but parted -l says different
[19:24] <drfoobaz> I think mgolisch. The uid from blkid and in /etc/fstab are the same
[19:25] <mgolisch> ioria: no it doesnt, it says it was sc1 during install
[19:25] <mgolisch> but it uses a uuid so thats not relevant
[19:25] <EriC^^> ioria: yes
[19:26] <mgolisch> drfoobaz: can you pastebin the output of this: sudo lsblk -o name,mountpoint,label,size,uuid
[19:26] <EriC^^> what's up?
[19:26] <ioria> Eric^^  can you assist drfoobaz ...
[19:26] <ioria> ?
[19:26] <t-nelson> fstab has nothing to do with what nautilus shows there.
[19:27] <kadiro> mgolisch: look in both pastebin, in fstab is in sdc but gparted have only two HDD
[19:27] <t-nelson> That's all gvfsd stuff.
[19:28] <conan^> Hi all, I want to customize an ubuntu installation image to contain some packages and their dependencies so that I can install them with no network. Is there a good document for that?
[19:28] <kadiro> someone have a same point like me?
[19:28] <mgolisch> kadiro: where does it say sdc1 there?
[19:28] <ioria> Eric^^   parted -l   https://u.teknik.io/1PYG8b.png      fstab   http://i.imgur.com/7NZ2C2n.png
[19:28] <kadiro> mgolisch: in fstab file
[19:29] <mgolisch> no
[19:29] <mgolisch> it says : was on sdc1 during installation
[19:29] <drfoobaz> mgolisch: https://paste.teknik.io/1686
[19:29] <minimec> conan^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[19:29] <kadiro> mgolisch: where is a third HDD ?
[19:30] <conan^> Thank you minimec !
[19:30] <mgolisch> kadiro: he had installed from usb stick removed after the installation
[19:30] <drfoobaz> mgolisch: Wait. It looks like the only problem is the name "Ubuntu-GNOME." Is that all?
[19:30] <mgolisch> so that could have been sdb or whatever at that time
[19:30] <kadiro> mgolisch: you right ouups
[19:31] <drfoobaz> mgolisch: Ah, so I was wrong in my initial assumption that the usb was lingering.
[19:31] <drfoobaz> So how do I change the name to something more understandable?
[19:32] <drfoobaz> Oh, hold it can't just be a name issue.
[19:32] <ioria> drfoobaz,  it  is not  ?
[19:32] <drfoobaz> Because it fails to mount when I click it.
[19:32] <EriC^^> ioria: looks good.. what's the problem?
[19:32] <conan^> minimec: The link is a bit outdated (like the alternate image) but I'll start with that. Thanks again
[19:33] <ioria> Eric^^   sorry for the drill ... maybe i misunderstood :P ...
[19:33] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: what's the device path it tries to mount?
[19:33] <mgolisch> i have never seen labels on disks
[19:33] <minimec> conan^: Yeah that is often the case with 'community' tutorials and docs...
[19:34] <drfoobaz> t-nelson "/dev/sdb2 at /media/zach/Ubuntu-GNOME 14.04.3 LTS amd64"
[19:34] <conan^> minimec: Yup. Once I know how to do this, I might
[19:34] <t-nelson> mgolisch: The labels are on the filesystem, not the disk.
[19:34] <conan^> ... update the doc
[19:34] <conan^> ;)
[19:35] <kadiro> no conan^
[19:36] <t-nelson> drfoobaz: try grep -Hnir '/dev/sdb2/' ~
[19:37] <EriC^^> ioria: hehe np :)
[19:37] <ioria> Eric^^   thanks again
[19:37] <mgolisch> it seems to think theres a filesystem on /dev/sdb2
[19:38] <mgolisch> which seems to be an extendted partition
[19:38] <drfoobaz> t-nelson: nothing
[19:38] <t-nelson> mgolisch: More likely there's some stale entry cached somewhere.
[19:38] <ioria> mgolisch, the swap https://u.teknik.io/1PYG8b.png
[19:38] <drfoobaz> This is a fresh install guys, I'm really thinking I'll just do it again.
[19:40] <mgolisch> does blkid show that label for /dev/sdb2 too?
[19:40] <arno_> Hi, I'm looking for a software suggestion: anyone knows of a "buzzword generator I could install". I would like to feed it a couple of verbs and nouns. And it could generate buzz sentences containing those words
[19:41] <EriC^^> drfoobaz: could you reiterate your problem if you dont mind?
[19:42] <drfoobaz> EriC: In the nautilus sidebar it shows this unmountable "Ubuntu-GNOME" device.
[19:43] <EriC^^> drfoobaz: ok, do you have a drive connected?
[19:44] <EriC^^> other than the 2 in parted -l?
[19:44] <drfoobaz> no
[19:44] <EriC^^> ah sorry
[19:45] <EriC^^> that's your 700gb ext4 partition
[19:45] <EriC^^> does it show up as mounted in df -h ?
[19:46] <Village> Ben64, do you here?
[19:46] <EriC^^> it's /dev/sdb1
[19:53] <MCDONALD> guys
[19:53] <MCDONALD> what nick is JENDRAL YOHANES PATRA
[19:53] <MCDONALD> guard you'r mouth
[19:53] <MCDONALD> is useless to talk in code
[19:54] <MCDONALD> WE ARE ALL FUCK
[19:54] <t-nelson> Indeed!
[19:54] <mcphail> MCDONALD: please stop that
[19:54] <kadiro> the swearing authorized here? O_o
[19:54] <MCDONALD> TORNADO 717 DEFINELY HERE
[19:54] <MCDONALD> why we are under them
[19:54] <MCDONALD> just tell them
[19:55] <kadiro> who?
[19:55] <MCDONALD> they are here
[19:55] <MCDONALD> just talk
[19:55] <MCDONALD> don't act fucker
[19:55] <mcphail> !ops
[19:55] <MCDONALD> or we are dead
[19:55] <pbx> um do we have an op here
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> MCDONALD  alt-f4 for more interesting conversation
[19:55] <MCDONALD> just tell them our secret
[19:55] <pbx> tx genii
[19:56] <conan^> nice touch: requested by... :)
[19:56]  * genii sips
[19:56] <t-nelson> The Windows troll did a better job.
[19:57] <kadiro> nicely my english is bad, good to no understand him
[19:59] <kadiro> I loose my internet like yesterday or no one speak here?
[20:00] <pbx> just a quiet moment kadiro
[20:00] <conan^> It will pass
[20:00] <goines> hello o/
[20:00] <kadiro> :))
[20:00] <conan^> Her sey guzel olacak ;)
[20:01] <kadiro> O_o
[20:03] <kadiro> turkish
[20:04] <daftykins> kadiro: you have to ask a question for 'chat' to begin, otherwise chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <kadiro> thk's daftykins, i loose my internet ( unstable ) i just checked it out, but thk's for the link ( channel ) i will test in it
[20:05] <daftykins> err ok
[20:06] <bujji> hello dafty
[20:06] <daftykins> don't hello me
[20:07] <bujji> ))
[20:07] <MeatPopsicle> not strictly Ununtu related but has anyone had any luck with YUMI? my multiboot USB's never seem to work
[20:08] <daftykins> yep always been fine for me
[20:08] <MeatPopsicle> hm
[20:08] <kadiro> i have a problem but i found no answer for it ( about mint ) where to put my question? please
[20:08] <minas114> Is pm-powersave on or off by default?
[20:08] <daftykins> !mint | kadiro
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  click on Community  http://community.linuxmint.com/
[20:09] <kadiro> daftykins: i'm banned from mint irc if you have another channel please tell me
[20:09] <MeatPopsicle> hm I tried to make a multiboot with debian, fedora, mint, ubuntu and gparted but it didnt seem to want to work
[20:09] <OerHeks> MeatPopsicle, make sure that usb is formatted Fat32, ntfs is buggy
[20:09] <daftykins> kadiro: you realise it's on another network the one above, yes? and no, helping with Mint is not #ubuntu 's responsibility.
[20:09] <MeatPopsicle> can DD be used to put multiple ISO's on a drive?
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  banned, of course for no reason
[20:09] <time_zone> previous was taken :)
[20:09] <MeatPopsicle> OerHeks it is
[20:10] <MeatPopsicle> also you from NL OerHeks?
[20:10] <OerHeks> MeatPopsicle, good guess :-)
[20:10] <kadiro> MonkeyDust: for saying just one word ( swear ) i'm banned for 30 days
[20:10] <time_zone> i have filenames with special characters in it
[20:11] <time_zone> can i use rename to for example rename ô and ö into o ?
[20:11] <time_zone> and not in 2 separate commando's
[20:11] <MeatPopsicle> OerHeks My wife is on Facetime right next to me speaking Dutch to her mom, I have some experience you could say lol\
[20:12] <time_zone> rename 's/ô/o/g' does the trick but i prefer to have ô & ö in 1 command
[20:12] <daftykins> MeatPopsicle: *not* a chat channel
[20:12] <bujji> use awk
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> or sed
[20:13] <t-nelson> time_zone: sed -e 's/[ôö]/o/g'
[20:13] <time_zone> sed failed on me ( or i failed sed )
[20:13] <time_zone> i try :)
[20:14] <time_zone> it's about 75 weird characters... i prefer to have as less as possible lines :)
[20:15] <t-nelson> You probably wanna do soemthing like: echo mv "$FILE" "$(echo $FILE | sed -e 's/[ôö]/o/g')"
[20:15] <t-nelson> Then once you're sure it will do what your want, remove the echo.
[20:15] <t-nelson> *first echo
[20:15] <t-nelson> There's probably some tool to do that
[20:16] <MeatPopsicle> can DD be used to create a working multiboot?
[20:17] <daftykins> MeatPopsicle: no
[20:17] <t-nelson> A working multiboot what?
[20:18] <daftykins> flash drive.
[20:18] <t-nelson> daftykins: Odds are you can use dd to do anything with enough time and patience :)
[20:18] <MeatPopsicle> multiboot of Linux distros, YUMI never seems to want to work for me
[20:18] <mcphail> MeatPopsicle: you could use dd to clone an existing multiboot drive, but you would struggle badly to _create_ a new one
[20:18] <daftykins> t-nelson: yes but notice that unhelpful qualification you added to the end which doesn't help the user.
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> MeatPopsicle  scroll down to the end of this page   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[20:19] <t-nelson> daftykins: Which is why I directed it at you, not the user.
[20:19] <daftykins> t-nelson: ok well don't say anything pointless to me in future ty :)
[20:20] <MeatPopsicle> MonkeyDust does this work better than YUMI?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> MeatPopsicle  never tried it, i use linux
[20:21] <MeatPopsicle> MonkeyDust so do I, the YUMI for Ubuntu doesnt agree with me apparently
[20:22] <daftykins> MeatPopsicle: your issues with YUMI might end up being pretty basic. are you sure you're using the latest version - and that the drive has been totally *properly* wiped to begin with? does it boot any, or none?
[20:22] <LonelyDanbo> I asked on #winehq but since there's no reply I thought I'd ask here. If my game is randomly locking up my whole computer including mouse and keyboard and I have to hit reset button, is that likely a hardware issue instead of software?
[20:22] <MeatPopsicle> it boots but says no OS, i wipe it with gparted and format it as fat32
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> MeatPopsicle  i'm not following... yumi is for windows, no?
[20:23] <t-nelson> LonelyDanbo: 99.999999999% GPU driver issue.
[20:23] <MeatPopsicle> MonkeyDust they also have a linux version
[20:23] <LonelyDanbo> Thanks, t-nelson
[20:23] <t-nelson> Np
[20:23] <t-nelson> LonelyDanbo: Which gpu?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> MeatPopsicle  then use multisystem, it's really easy
[20:23] <squinty> MeatPopsicle:   setup Multisystem with a couple of iso's using ubuntu 14.04 a couple of weeks ago.  no problems
[20:23] <MeatPopsicle> daftykins it boots but says no OS, i wipe it with gparted and format it as fat32
[20:23] <daftykins> MeatPopsicle: alright well dd the first 100MB with zeroes then try again - also, i was only aware of it being a Windows program.
[20:24] <t-nelson> Heh, 4KB is plenty.
[20:24] <t-nelson> Just need to wipe out the MBR/GPT
[20:24] <bekks> Then 448 bytes is plenty.
[20:24] <LonelyDanbo> t-nelson Uhm... not sure. I think... NVideo GeForce GTX 660.
[20:24] <daftykins> t-nelson: either address someone or don't bother to speak
[20:25] <time_zone> i found out... tnx to who helped me out
[20:26] <t-nelson> LonelyDanbo: OK, n/m.  I know of a similar issue on Intel haswell gfx HW.
[20:26] <MeatPopsicle> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ it has Ubuntu/Debian versions at the bottom
[20:26] <t-nelson> But that won't help you on nvidia.
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> MeatPopsicle  why don't you try MultiSystem?
[20:28] <gbit86__> so what would be the easiest way to set all traffic to default over to eth1 globally on ubuntu?
[20:28] <daftykins> MeatPopsicle: maybe you're not running it with gksudo or something
[20:28] <bekks> gbit86__: Setup routing accordingly.
[20:28] <artois> gbit86__: why eth1?
[20:28] <MeatPopsicle> Monkeydust I am about to in a few minutes
[20:28] <gbit86__> in vagrant and need my dev to send all traffic over the bridged interfaced, not the nat
[20:28] <gbit86__> the nat creates a lot of issues
[20:29] <bekks> gbit86__: So setup routing accordingly.
[20:29] <gbit86__> and I am trying to set the routing correctly...
[20:29] <gbit86__> just thought there might be an easier way
[20:29] <bekks> That is the easy way.
[20:29] <artois> gbit86__: can't you just disable the nat?
[20:30] <gbit86__> Nope, killing the nat kills the vagrant integration
[20:30] <MeatPopsicle> if it works I can use the 5 pack of USB drives I have coming to make Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Mint and more multiboots
[20:30] <gbit86__> Vagrant does not like to play nicely over a single bridged interface
[20:30] <artois> sounds like a brittle tool
[20:30] <gbit86__> I know, but it is all the rage.
[20:31] <artois> gbit86__: like tupperware parties?
[20:33] <gbit86__> artois: not sure what you mean
[20:34] <artois> gbit86__: you make my point well =)
[20:34] <artois> both are soon forgotten
[20:37] <MeatPopsicle> why does double clicking the multisystem script not give me any options
[20:38] <artois> the what?
[20:38] <gbit86__> so what is wrong with this "ip route add $P1_NET dev $IF1 src $IP1 table ISP1" ?
[20:38] <gbit86__> I get an error that says "Error: argument "ISP1" is wrong: "table" value is invalid"
[20:40] <gbit86__> The example I pulled from had table as something that needs to be set, but the man page in ubuntu does not mention it
[20:43] <locoloco> Hi all!
[20:44] <marjinal1st_> Why is Vim getting borders from top and bottom in gnome terminal, Ubuntu 14.04? Screenshot: http://oi62.tinypic.com/hteb89.jpg
[20:45] <locoloco> Switching from Mac OS X to Ubuntu and wondering if there's a way to enable system-wide key bindings like on the Mac. https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/EventOverview/TextDefaultsBindings/TextDefaultsBindings.html
[20:46] <instantp10neer> What is the best version for an old Dimension 8200 (256MB) with a CDRW?
[20:47] <pbx> locoloco, i don't think so. i could be wrong but i don't think the text widgetry was built with that possibility in mind
[20:47] <pbx> (and i say that as a osx-to-ubuntu user who misses those uniform text editing bindings)
[20:48] <locoloco> pbx: thanks...however painful it is to hear that!
[20:49] <OerHeks> instantp10neer, lubuntu i guess
[20:50] <mcphail> instantp10neer: that is going to struggle to run anyhting useful if you want a GUI
[20:50] <pbx> locoloco, let me know if you learn anything. i'd love to be wrong :)  http://news.e-scribe.com/444
[20:50] <instantp10neer> i was thinking older versions.
[20:51] <mcphail> instantp10neer: older versions aren't supported and are unlikely to work any better
[20:52] <locoloco> pbx: cannot believe there's no recognized way to being able to edit an email or searching the Dash with the same ease as using emacs.
[20:53] <instantp10neer> support is not an issue, i am seeking something that gets someone on an old computer with minimal 'effort'
[20:54] <OerHeks> instantp10neer, lubuntu sounds like a good idea
[20:55] <mcphail> instantp10neer: OerHeks: lubuntu still recommends 512MB minimum
[20:56] <mcphail> instantp10neer: good luck, but ubuntu (new or old) or its derivatives are unlikely to be useful for you
[20:57] <instantp10neer> ill try talking the victim in to a hefty $10 ram investment
[20:57] <mcphail> instantp10neer: :)
[20:58] <alex19> hallo
[20:58]  * alex19  i need a ubunt version they runnes on  a noteboot with win 98
[20:58] <abb0> does anyone else in here use nzbget
[20:59] <abb0> i have a question if i goto the nzbget website it has linux section for the latest build yet the onei  just installed is only 12. not 15. sooooo is there a way to install the .run file from the website or is that only for certain linux distros
[21:00] <loa> hello, what can be done to save pulseaudio settings for volume?
[21:00] <OerHeks> alex19, notebooK with win98 ? what are the specs ?
[21:02] <alex19> i dont know i only know he has win 98 and is old :-D is a notbook
[21:02] <mcphail> abb0: nzbget is in the repositories
[21:03] <mcphail> !info nzbget precise
[21:03] <mcphail> abb0: if you choose to use a different version it can't be supported here
[21:04] <abb0> well i was just asking is that the only version stable on ubuntu
[21:04] <abb0> 12 is the version in repos
[21:04] <abb0> im not asking for help i guess then, just curious if there is any reason 15 isnt in the repos? is it b/c it is unsupported?
[21:05] <mcphail> !latest
[21:05] <mcphail> abb0: ^
[21:05] <alex19> i dont know i only know he has win 98 and is old :-D is a notbook
[21:05] <unloading> Hi guys , anyone an idea of what specs you need to run a webshop ?
[21:06] <abb0> o ok.
[21:06] <janisozaur> hi. I'm awaiting my order for a laptop with my first ever ssd in it. What file system would you recommend, are there any tips/tricks to managing it best? The drives in question will be 256GB MLC mSATA + 500GB seagate sshd (500GB hdd + 8GB MLC, handled by drive's controller)
[21:06] <abb0> thanks
[21:06] <abb0> so its a better safe than sorry policy, i got it.
[21:07] <mcphail> abb0: yep
[21:07] <abb0> sorry to ask, ;) thanks for heads up
[21:07] <OerHeks> alex19, cannot say what version suits best, try lubuntu and xubuntu
[21:07] <daftykins> janisozaur: no need to do anything. ext4, that's it
[21:07] <alex19> ok thanks
[21:07] <mcphail> janisozaur: whatever you prefer. ext4 or btrfs would be good
[21:08] <aktx> https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/3ghesw/fixing_bug_in_production/
[21:09] <OerHeks> aktx, reddithumor is offtopic here
[21:09] <aktx> OerHeks, sry
[21:10] <Ktitochka> hi
[21:11] <Ktitochka> Hey people
[21:11] <aktx> hey Ktitochka
[21:11] <OerHeks> :-)
[21:12] <blubi> :-*
[21:12] <janisozaur> thanks
[21:13] <Ktitochka> itś all right???
[21:13] <Ktitochka> it´s
[21:13] <OerHeks> Ktitochka, do you have an Ubuntu support issue?
[21:14] <Ktitochka> no
[21:14] <Ktitochka> because???
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Ktitochka  this is the ubuntu support channel
[21:15] <OerHeks> Ktitochka, read the topic before you enter an IRC channel this is ubuntu support only.
[21:15] <Ktitochka> yes
[21:15] <janisozaur> !offtopic | Ktitochka
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Ktitochka  type /topic
[21:17] <Ktitochka> i do not understand engish well
[21:18] <janisozaur> !pt | Ktitochka
[21:19] <finetundra__> anyone know an average time for a mamtest?
[21:19] <gbit86__> There are ways of remapping your keys system wide locoloco, not sure why no one mentioned it. Look into how to edit the xmodmap file in your home user directory
[21:20] <gbit86__> I have done it so that my keyboard feels more like mac while using linux.
[21:21] <gbit86__> Seems like a minor thing, but for someone who uses and is constantly learning new shortcut keys it is critically important that our keys stay in the proper physical locations. I wish Linux and Windows made it as easy to change as it is on a mac.
[21:21] <Ktitochka> alguem fala portugues???
[21:22] <Ktitochka> oki
[21:23] <OerHeks> finetundra__, not really, let memtest86 run 2 rounds, should be a short test.
[21:24] <arooni-mobile> hey folks.  installed a 500GB samsung SSD drive on my laptop.  i have an existing ubuntu version running on the laptop on an older hard drive.  question:  1) Should i completely re-install ubuntu on the new hard drive?  or mirror it somehow?  2) what size partition for / and for /home (20gb and 480 gb)?
[21:24] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: clonezilla
[21:24] <pbx> gbit86__, nobody mentioned xmodmap because the question was about keybindings inside text fields.  osx enables basic emacs bindings in all by default
[21:25] <arooni-mobile> isnt this a nice opportunity to start from scratch?
[21:25] <arooni-mobile> and install the OS from scratch?
[21:25] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: if you want, but no need.
[21:25] <locoloco> pbx: gbit86__: Found this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings but I'll take a look at xmodmap and see where it takes me
[21:26] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, i think that it would be easiest to use clonezilla huh
[21:26] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, is 20GB /root/ partition enough space?
[21:26] <mcphail> arooni-mobile: I would install from scratch and keep everything under one mount point, unless you realluy need to separate / and /home
[21:26] <pbx> locoloco, neither will help you i'm afraid.  but if you prove me wrong post a comment on that blog post i linked to?
[21:26] <Ktitochka> Alguem me explique normalmente como eu posso falar com gente portuguesa prff ???????????????
[21:26] <Ktitochka> :(
[21:26] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: what software do you use? do you work on it?
[21:27] <daftykins> !pt | Ktitochka
[21:27] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, web development mostly
[21:27] <arooni-mobile> but getitng into android development too
[21:27] <daftykins> i'd go at least 40GB then
[21:27] <Ktitochka> nao consigo ubottu
[21:27] <daftykins> Ktitochka: ubottu = bot. are you saying you can't join #ubuntu-br ?
[21:27] <arooni-mobile> right now i have 20GB assinged to /root/ and i've used 16.87 of it
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> is there an advantage to mounting / on a separate partition from /home?
[21:28] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: heh yeah that's not good then. maybe call it a nice even 50GB minimum. android stuff might be quite chunky
[21:28] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: only for reinstalls.
[21:28] <Ktitochka> yes a can´t
[21:28] <mcphail> arooni-mobile: not in my opinion
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> lets say i installed from scratch
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to get a list of installed software
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> packages
[21:28] <daftykins> Ktitochka: go ask in #freenode how to register.
[21:29] <finetundra__> OerHeks: how do I tell how many rounds it's gone?
[21:29] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: yes, but what version are you on now?
[21:29] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, ubuntu 14.10
[21:30] <arooni-mobile> but i have a fresh version of ubntu 15.04 downloaded
[21:30] <arooni-mobile> so not sure whether better to clone
[21:30] <OerHeks> finetundra__, if 'pass %'  is over 100%
[21:30] <arooni-mobile> or start over from scratch and install and copy over what's necessary
[21:30] <mcphail> arooni-mobile: no - install fresh. 14.10 is dead
[21:30] <arooni-mobile> should i combine the / and /home on same partition?
[21:31] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: you sure you don't want to work on LTS, since you know... you won't get hassled by forced upgrades?
[21:31] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, thats a good point
[21:31] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, what do i really lose being on LTS?
[21:32] <daftykins> repos might have older software sometimes
[21:32] <arooni-mobile> also; i think there'd be an advantage running same OS on my dev box as i run on servers
[21:32] <finetundra__> OerHeks: 100% would be 2 rounds?
[21:32] <daftykins> but then most likely devs pull in software from PPAs anyway i would think
[21:32] <daftykins> finetundra__: no watch for the value 'Pass' to increment to '2'
[21:32] <gbit86__> pbx: from how I read it the question was about system wide keybinding, but whatever.
[21:32] <OerHeks> finetundra__, no, just 1 round
[21:33] <pokergod> how do you type unicode characters on ubuntu, for example;   u+2026
[21:33] <locoloco> pbx: sure thing!
[21:36] <user1254> pokergod: ctl-shift-u and then the unicode hex , then enter
[21:37] <arooni-mobile> hey folks.  installed a 500GB samsung SSD drive on my laptop.  i have an existing ubuntu version running on the laptop on an older hard drive.  question:  1) Should i completely re-install ubuntu on the new hard drive?  or mirror it somehow?  2) do /home and / need to be on different partitions?  3) should i be running 14.04 lts versus 15.04?
[21:38] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: er why post again
[21:38] <arooni-mobile> sorry i thought i was in a different irc network
[21:38] <arooni-mobile> my mistake
[21:39] <daftykins> XD
[21:39] <daftykins> just do it!
[21:39] <giant_> yo
[21:39] <arooni-mobile> what about the / and /home issue;  any advantage to having them on separate partitions?
[21:40] <mcphail> arooni-mobile: more disadvantages than advantages, imho
[21:40] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: i responded to that already, it would allow reinstalls easier.
[21:40] <giant_> any one help me with touchpad ?
[21:41] <giant_> it was working very fine
[21:41] <mcphail> arooni-mobile: a "middle ground" would be to use btrfs as your filesystem. The installer will set up separate / and /home subvolumes so you get the advantages without the disadvantages
[21:41] <giant_> about a minute, now i can only use its button
[21:41] <bprompt> arooni-mobile:    depends on many things, if you want the latest and newest, then 15.04, bearing in mind that support is just about 12months, now 14.04 has LTS, or support for 5years, I'd do a new install on the ssd, and move over the /home from the older hdd, so you don't have to spend 4hours reconfiguring everything, apps and OS
[21:42] <pokergod> …test
[21:43] <bprompt> arooni-mobile:   do /home and / need to be in separate partitions? nope, it  helps to have them separate for the sake of categorizing and any reinstalling, but you could have them in the same partition
[21:43] <ValekCOS> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, and am attempting to use rc.local to handle some startup processing.  /etc/init.d/rc.local and /etc/rc.local both exist and are executable, and the /etc/rc*.d/S99rc.local symlinks exist.  Am I missing something that might prevent /etc/init.d/rc.local from executing?  I put some tests into the startup script itself, but it never got that far, so I know it isn't running that startup script at all.
[21:44] <ValekCOS> Forgot to mention, they are also set root:root, as they should be.
[21:44] <giant_> any facebook hacker here ?
[21:44] <giant_> AnyOne ???
[21:45] <locoloco> gbit86__: Q was system-wide. For example, "Ctrl-h" in OS X deletes a character backwards...regardless if you are in Terminal, Spotlight or Chrome. Incredibly useful feature! Surprised to see it missing in Ubuntu.
[21:46] <mcphail> locoloco: the delete key does that... :)
[21:46] <user1254> pokergod: ✓
[21:46] <locoloco> mcphail: good one!
[21:49] <pokergod> user1254, thank you!
[21:49] <user1254> pokergod: ur welcome
[21:50] <Nobble> hello
[21:52] <Nobble> ?
[22:00] <F6F7> does anybody remember the name of that iso that allows you to boot e.g. ubuntu on a usb thumbdrive on a computer that doesnt allow usb booting?
[22:01] <gbit86__> ah, was not aware of Ctrl-h deleting characters across the board... almost sound like a backspace key :P
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> F6F7  use a dvd or use pxe
[22:01] <F6F7> nvm, found it (Plop Boot Manager)
[22:01] <arooni-mobile> can ext4 partitions be resized easily?
[22:02] <F6F7> MonkeyDust: the computer doesnt even allow dvd booting
[22:02] <bprompt> hmmm
[22:03] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Never had an issue here.
[22:03] <bprompt> F6F7:    something tells me that, if the machine is decently new and doesn't do usb booting, Plop isn't going to do much
[22:03] <wileee> arooni-mobile, let us know if you have encryption, lvm....etc
[22:03] <bprompt> F6F7:    is this an older or new computer?
[22:04] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Be backed up, anything can fail, at any time.
[22:07] <arooni-mobile> id like to be able to encrypt the /home diretory
[22:07] <arooni-mobile> the evo supports hardware encryption of osme kind i think
[22:07] <F6F7> bprompt: it's pretty old (10 years)
[22:07] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: That doesn't do you any good on a multiuser system.
[22:08] <t-nelson> On a single user system, it's no different from encrypting /home/user
[22:09] <bprompt> F6F7:    hmm I see
[22:09] <arooni-mobile> im a single user
[22:09] <arooni-mobile> on my laptop
[22:10] <daftykins> artzone: probably no use unless on Windows
[22:10] <t-nelson> Right, so encrypting /home is no better than encrypting /home/user for  you.
[22:11] <t-nelson> It's not that you can't do it, just that you can't do it by ticking a box in the installer.
[22:12] <wileee> t-nelson, Welcome thanks for stopping by and helping, if you could try to preface answers with the nic.
[22:12] <t-nelson> wileee: Sure sure
[22:12] <wileee> ;)
[22:16] <mack_> Hi
[22:17] <arooni-mobile> OK I think i have the partitioning set up for my new hard drive (500 GB SSD):  30GB for /root/, 462 GB for /home/, followed by 8GB for SWAP (i have a laptop i'd like to be able to suspend/resume).  does this order look good?
[22:17] <arooni-mobile> and should it be logical or primary volumes?
[22:18] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: partition type doesn't matter
[22:18] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, if i wanted to resize /root in the future, would that be OK?  i.e. reduce or increase size of /home compared to /root
[22:19] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: Honestly, you may as well use PGT
[22:19] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: You mean /root as in / or the root user's home dir?
[22:19] <EriC^^> PGT?
[22:19] <t-nelson> s/PGT/GPT
[22:19] <t-nelson> :)
[22:22] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, 30 gb for / , and 462 for /home
[22:23] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Just remember encrypting is a good way to lose everything in it, and resizing is not a beginners job.
[22:23] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: If you suspect you'll need to resize, I'd just allocate more now.
[22:24] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: Growing is pretty safe, but shrinking/moving are risky.  Which is what you'll have to do if you butt all of the partitions up against one another.
[22:24] <arooni-mobile> i'm using the laptop in the way id probably be using it in the futuer (disregarding the installation of the android dev enviorment) and i'm using 17gb of 20gb allocated to /
[22:25] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: The other option is to leave unallocated space between the partitions which either  can take.
[22:25] <arooni-mobile> so i was thinking 30 gb would be enough?
[22:25] <arooni-mobile> thats an interesting idea
[22:25] <arooni-mobile> so maybe 30GB there, then an allocated 10GB between / and /home
[22:25] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: Though you will still have to move the one starting at a larger offset.
[22:25] <daftykins> artzone: no go for 50
[22:26] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: Size of / is really a matter of how long you  plan to keep the install.
[22:26] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: You'll collect all kinds of crap.
[22:26] <daftykins> no it's not, it's a matter of what software you use
[22:26] <t-nelson> I just purged like a dozen kernels :)
[22:27] <t-nelson> daftykins: He's already at 30GB.  He can basically install all of apt.
[22:27] <daftykins> at 20
[22:27] <arooni-mobile> i'm using 17GB of 20
[22:27] <daftykins> also the task mentioned was android dev
[22:27] <daftykins> so...
[22:27] <arooni-mobile> but without android dev enviornment
[22:27] <t-nelson> Now you have to ask whether app or system level android dev.
[22:28] <arooni-mobile> app level
[22:28] <t-nelson> 'cause I do the latter and can tell you that 500GB is NOT going to cut it :)
[22:28] <arooni-mobile> haha well i'll leave the heavy lifting to you
[22:28] <arooni-mobile> i just want to build a few android apps
[22:28] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: Right, so you'll be fine installing any SDK stuff in your ~
[22:29] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, so you think a 30GB / partition is enough?
[22:29] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, would you recommend ubuntu 15.04 or 14.04LTS?
[22:29] <t-nelson> I can only tell you that 20GB isn't enough for me.
[22:30] <arooni-mobile> whats your / size?
[22:30] <t-nelson> Because my / is constantly full.
[22:30] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Really the resizing moving is easy, never had an issue, but once you encrypt, than it is more advanced, I would avoid the encrypt really.
[22:30] <arooni-mobile> ok ill maybe hold off on encryption
[22:30] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: I'd stick with 14.04, most of the Android stuff is OK there now.
[22:30] <t-nelson> I have tried 15.04 for dev.
[22:31] <arooni-mobile> great;  ill use 14.04.  id rather have all available tools
[22:31] <daftykins> at last :P now go do it!
[22:31] <arooni-mobile> hahahahhahaha
[22:31] <arooni-mobile> can i install via my existing running version of ubuntu to the other drive, or do i need to boot from a flash drive / cd?
[22:31] <t-nelson> And then realize you made a horrible mistake and do it all over again tomorrow! :)
[22:31] <daftykins> boot media
[22:31] <wileee> arooni-mobile, You can encrypt a folder if needed, I do that for passwords.
[22:32] <arooni-mobile> wileee, didnt think of doing it that way ; i like that idea
[22:32] <arooni-mobile> ok so i will use ubuntu startup disk creator
[22:33] <EriC^^> sounds goood
[22:33] <arooni-mobile> without encryption
[22:34] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, so do you think 30G for /, then 460 for /home , and 10GB for /swap is good nuff'?
[22:34] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Nice thing is once you get all set up and know the sizes you need you can fairly easily reproduce it encrypted if yo9u want to.
[22:34] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: How much RAM do you have?
[22:34] <arooni-mobile> yeah good call
[22:34] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, 8GB
[22:34] <t-nelson> Is that all the laptop will take?
[22:35] <arooni-mobile> t-nelson, i think it could run up to 16GB technically
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> although i'm looking for a better dev machine so i can do android/iphone apps
[22:36] <t-nelson> arooni-mobile: Actually, so long as you don't try to suspend in the middle of compiling a dozen apps, you'll be ok with 10GB
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> so looking for a mac mini , or mac book pro
[22:36] <t-nelson> Probably overkill even.
[22:36] <t-nelson> I only have 7GB on my workstation with 32GB RAM.
[22:36] <t-nelson> *7GB swap.
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> t-nelson  i guess the guy wants a yes or no
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> i just want to get this right so i dont have to resize partitions etc later
[22:37] <t-nelson> MonkeyDust: I can barely answer that for myself on any give install :)
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> im just gonna do the 30GB /
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> its either going to work or it wont
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> hahaha
[22:37] <t-nelson> And I've been installing OSes for going on 20yrs.
[22:38] <EriC^^> by the time he installs 14.04 will be out of support
[22:38] <arooni-mobile> hahahha
[22:38] <daftykins> XD
[22:38] <EriC^^> :P
[22:38] <AjaxCrixum> Can someone help me setup a Java environment on Ubuntu?
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> !java
[22:38] <arooni-mobile> false, i just wrote the LTS to a flash drive; and am about to reboot & install now
[22:39] <t-nelson> Better not be.  I have no ambition of setting up a new dev environment anytime soon.
[22:39] <TechMonger2> can someone help me understand the permisions in the /var/www/html file
[22:40] <TechMonger2> i am trying to use php to print to a file
[22:40] <t-nelson> TechMonger2: You probably want #whateverhttpdyoureusing.
[22:40] <EriC^^> TechMonger2: www-data has to have write access to it i guess
[22:41] <TechMonger2> EriC^^, i have read that. how do i edit that users file permisions?
[22:41] <t-nelson> Sounds like a good way to open up an RCE.
[22:41] <TechMonger2> i cant find that user
[22:41] <EriC^^> TechMonger2: you don't edit user's permissions, you edit file permissions
[22:41] <TechMonger2> right. i have to be logged into the user tho right?
[22:42] <TechMonger2> i used chmod +1111
[22:42] <EriC^^> type sudo chgrp www-data /var/www/html to change the group of the dir
[22:42] <EriC^^> no
[22:42] <TechMonger2> hmm
[22:42] <EriC^^> O.o
[22:43] <TechMonger2> what is chgrp?
[22:43] <EriC^^> type sudo chmod 775 /var/www/html
[22:43] <TechMonger2> nev
[22:43] <TechMonger2> what is 775
[22:43] <EriC^^> rwxrwxr-x
[22:43] <t-nelson> This box is getting hacked for sure :)
[22:43] <TechMonger2> xp
[22:53] <phpcoder> hello
[22:53] <phpcoder> i am using ubuntu 15.04
[22:53] <phpcoder> is there an mtp package do connect to samsung 4 device ?
[22:53] <phpcoder> *to
[22:54] <wileee> phpcoder, Android, should mount, you have the usb developer ticked in android?
[22:54] <t-nelson> phpcoder: MTP is a standard.  Did Samsung bastardize it?
[22:55] <phpcoder> the problem is that sometimes the device seems dead
[22:55] <phpcoder> i have many photos
[22:55] <phpcoder> so maybe it can not load all of them
[22:55] <t-nelson> phpcoder: If you're working with photos, try to switch the USB mode to PTP.
[22:56] <phpcoder> yes i connect via usb
[22:56] <phpcoder> t-nelson, how can i change it ?
[22:56] <wileee> phpcoder, You are not answering basic questions, but just commenting, that does not work here.
[22:57] <t-nelson> Uhh, assuming samsung hasn't made too big a mess, Android Settings > Storage > "..." Menu > USB Computer Connection
[22:57] <phpcoder> ok i search it
[22:57] <phpcoder> thanks
[22:57] <wileee> has to have the developer option ticked is all
[22:58] <t-nelson> wileee: Since when, MTP/PTP should work without dev mode
[22:58] <t-nelson> In fact, I've seen dev mode interfere on some devices.
[22:59] <wileee> t-nelson, I just do it automatically, however I'm fairly sure it's need, if not than I learn something. ;)
[23:00] <t-nelson> wileee: Yeah.  I just tested.  MTP mode, USB debugging off.  Mounted fine in 14.04.
[23:00] <t-nelson> That's on a Nexus 5
[23:00] <wileee> t-nelson, What android release?
[23:01] <t-nelson> 5.1.whatever fixed that libstagefright exploit.
[23:01] <wileee> heh good
[23:01] <t-nelson> I just pulled the OTA this morning.
[23:01] <bprompt> phpcoder:     what android is it running?   4.x?  2.3?    samsung 4, you mean, samsung galaxy s4?
[23:02] <t-nelson> Hrm, I guess it's still 5.1.1.
[23:03] <phpcoder> good is running with shotwell
[23:03] <phpcoder> bprompt, yes samsung galaxy 4
[23:03] <bprompt> ?
[23:04] <bprompt> phpcoder:     samsung has several "4"S
[23:04] <phpcoder> s
[23:04] <t-nelson> Hehehe :)
[23:04] <bprompt> phpcoder:   but anyhow, is likely android 4.x, but you said is mounted, so tis ok
[23:04] <jasonkeene> anyone know how to write to files via cloud init 12.04? write_files doesn’t work
[23:04] <phpcoder> yes is mounted and a selected ptp
[23:23] <Guest98444> i just installed linux mint / cinnamon ; i cant figure out how to switch to enlightenment or another w.m
[23:23] <tats> hi. recently upgraded to ubuntu 15.04 which destroyed my vlc installation. trying to reinstall i get the following: http://pastebin.com/h4V1yjcg
[23:23] <Guest98444> when i log out / log back in it has no options to change sessions
[23:23] <tats> i tried installing from ppa:videolan/master-daily, was able to install vlc-nox but still unable to install vlc
[23:24] <tats> try to install from ppa:n-muench/vlc as recommended here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/633987/how-to-install-vlc-2-2-1-in-ubuntu-15-04... still no luck
[23:24] <tats> any tips? thanks.
[23:25] <mcphail> tats: PPAs are unsupported, I'm afraid
[23:26] <Bashing-om> !mint
[23:26] <tats> mcphail, well, i don't mind disabling ppas but isn't vlc supported under vivid? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/vlc
[23:27] <mcphail> tats: vlc is supported. vlc from a PPA isn't. vlc broken by a previous PPA isn't either
[23:27] <tats> it was not working *without* the ppas.
[23:27] <mcphail> tats: did you have any PPAs installed before the upgrade?
[23:27] <tats> mcphail, "vlc broken by a previous PPA isn't either" i see. that must be it.
[23:28] <t-nelson> tats: Disable those ppas, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get remove vlc.*, sudo install vlc.
[23:28] <t-nelson> *sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:28] <tats> t-nelson, thanks, will try.
[23:28] <mcphail> tats: you can try using ppa-purge, but using PPAs can ruin your system and will break distro updates
[23:28] <t-nelson> tats: It looks like the vlc package got split up in 15.04.  Probably the issue.
[23:30] <surgy> why are the lubuntu servers sooooo slow when downloading an iso...... ugh
[23:31] <t-nelson> surgy: Use the torrents
[23:31] <t-nelson> They always max my line.
[23:33]  * t-nelson may as well try his question again
[23:34] <t-nelson> Anyone know how switching BIOS to CSM boot mode and back to UEFI can break grub?
[23:34] <t-nelson> Reinstalling with boot-repair fixes it.
[23:34] <Village> Maybe someone knows what's can be when installed vsftpd on Ubuntu 14.04, at connect gets - 500 OOPS: prctl PR_SET_SECCOMP failed , then to vsftpd.conf added new line - seccomp_sandbox=no and try connect 500 error no gets, but user pass says that is bad? P.S. try with not root user
[23:37] <surgy> t-nelson, maybe your boot order is changing? the first drive to boot has to have grub installed
[23:37] <t-nelson> surgy: Nah, only one disk.
[23:38] <t-nelson> And the distilled orders in BIOS don't change. Alwasy USB, HDD, NET
[23:38] <tats> mcphail, dully noted
[23:39] <t-nelson> surgy: I'm wondering if maybe UEFI generates some key for secure boot and that is changing when switching modes.
[23:39] <t-nelson> That's all I can think of anyway.
[23:39] <t-nelson> Short of *gasp!* a BIOS bug.
[23:40]  * t-nelson curses at Zotac for the pi320
[23:40] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: UEFI ; signed kernel image ?
[23:41] <surgy> another hour to dl 700 mb....
[23:41] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: Maybe, does the 15.04 installer choose that by default if secure boot is enabled?
[23:41] <daftykins> surgy: please take the chat over to #ubuntu-offtopic if you insist on carrying on
[23:41] <surgy> sry
[23:42] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: Yeah, I do expect the installer to do so .
[23:42] <t-nelson> Ah, so maybe I should ensure the secure mode is off and install again...
[23:42] <t-nelson> Though the point of this machine is security.
[23:43] <t-nelson> Maybe I'd be better off trying to figure out why Tails doesn't boot in UEFI mode
[23:43] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: I do not have UEFI experience, so can not say further .
[23:43] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: OK, thanks.  At least I have something to look into.
[23:45] <kadiro> I'm back
[23:45] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: K; If ya install in CCSM, then the signed kernel for UEFI is nullified .
[23:46] <tats> t-nelson, mcphail after purging, updating, removing and reinstalling i still got the same problem. thanks for your help. i guess i need to reinstall my whole system...
[23:46] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: Right.  I was hoping to avoid that.
[23:46] <t-nelson> tats: The same errror  as you  pasted?
[23:46] <t-nelson> 'cause that one was pretty clearly point to some PPA
[23:46] <t-nelson> surgy: No PM.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: Then insure that when you install, in the firmware UEFI is set .
[23:47] <tats> t-nelson, yes "Depends: libgles1-mesa (>= 7.8.1) but it is not going to be installed or libgles1"
[23:48] <t-nelson> tats: What version is installed?
[23:49] <tats> t-nelson, currently it's 15.04. i was on 14.04 and had the ppa mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu installed. i should have purged it before upgrading to 15.04 but forgot to do so.
[23:49] <t-nelson> Nah, what version of libgles1-mesa.
[23:49] <t-nelson> ^^ tats
[23:52] <Bashing-om> tats: ' apt-cache policy libgles1-mesa ' .
[23:52] <basiclaser> hey guys, having some isues with 2 USBs, I've been creating bootable linux distros with unetbootin and startup disk creator, and after hitting 'erase disk' in the latter I can no longer use or reformat, delete, mount the USBs no matter how many times I use Gparted to wipe them and reformat them to ext3 or fat32. What could it be??
[23:53] <t-nelson> basiclaser: Soudns like the flash is shot.
[23:53] <t-nelson> *Sounds
[23:53] <basiclaser> in both ??
[23:53] <basiclaser> t-nelson:
[23:53] <t-nelson> basiclaser: If you've been using the heavily, I wouldn't be surprised.
[23:53] <tats> t-nelson, Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/39SQA2W7
[23:54] <t-nelson> tats: Try install libgles1-mesa manually
[23:55] <Bashing-om> !info libgles1-mesa
[23:57] <tats> libgles1-mesa : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 10.5.2-0ubuntu1) but 10.5.9-2ubuntu1~vivid1 is to be installed
[23:58] <tats> t-nelson, Bashing-om ^^
[23:58] <Bashing-om> tats: Right off hand I would suggest to ppa-purge "  10.5.9-2ubuntu1~vivid1 0 ' and try and instll vivid's current " 10.5.2-0ubuntu1 " version .