[11:41] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3gks5d/oracle_blogger_no_you_cant_look_at_our_code/
[13:34] <cmaloney> Yay hospital
[13:34] <_stink_> man
[13:34] <_stink_> :(
[13:34] <cmaloney> Yeah, no worries.
[13:34] <cmaloney> FIL was having some issues this morning
[20:00] <cscheib> jrwren , aisrael: do either of you mess with juju on osx at all?  appears to not work on 10.11
[20:00] <cscheib> the command line tool, that is
[20:29] <jrwren> cscheib: i used to. i've not used it in a while. What are you trying to do?
[20:29] <jrwren> cscheib: 1.22.1-yosemite-amd64 installed here.
[20:43] <cscheib> jrwren: I was going to mess aroudn with juju, as I haven't actually yet
[20:44] <jrwren> cscheib: oh! you are running the beta of macosx? Yes, I'd not be surprised if juju doesn't support that :(
[20:44] <jrwren> cscheib: what is 10.11 called? ElCapitan?
[20:45] <cscheib> yea
[20:46] <cscheib> I'm guessing it's just a hard coded OS check, was pondering hard coding 10.11 in
[20:46] <jrwren> cscheib: do you get: panic: osVersion reported an error
[20:46] <cscheib> I'll probably just mess around with it on my other OSX laptop
[20:47] <cscheib> yup
[20:47] <jrwren> cscheib: file a bug, or tell me to.
[20:47] <cscheib> file a bug, yo!
[20:47] <cscheib> or tell me where to, I don't care
[20:47] <jrwren> cscheib: can you paste me output of uname -a
[20:47] <cscheib> Darwin arctistor.lan 15.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 15.0.0: Sun Jul 26 19:48:55 PDT 2015; root:xnu-3247.1.78~15/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
[20:48] <jrwren> cscheib: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/version/osversion.go#L128  no 15: "elcapitan" in that map
[20:49] <cscheib> oh man, this is a binary now?  I figured it'd be python
[20:50] <jrwren> cscheib: its go
[20:50] <jrwren> cscheib: juju hasn't been python for a few years now
[20:52] <jrwren> cscheib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1483889  mark it has affects you
[20:52] <cscheib> gracias
[20:58] <cscheib> +1'd
[21:16] <greg-g> heh, the same team member who had the curl | sh rickroll also still uses a .plan: https://github.com/thcipriani/dotfiles/blob/master/plan
[21:17] <jrwren> greg-g: can i finger him?
[21:18] <greg-g> not sure :)
[21:18] <greg-g> jrwren: unrelatedly, don't get your hopes up about lessig :)
[21:24] <jrwren> greg-g: its too late. They are already up.
[21:24] <jrwren> greg-g: HOPE
[21:26] <greg-g> keep 'em up them
[21:26] <greg-g> then
[21:42] <jrwren> greg-g: https://medium.com/@bucchere/lessig-2016-a-generation-s-defining-moment-643176837439  such excite!
[22:06] <cmaloney> My hopes for Lessig / Sanders are way up
[22:06] <cmaloney> But I'm bracing for Hillary / Donald
[22:06] <greg-g> donald?
[22:06] <cmaloney> Clinton / Trump
[22:06] <greg-g> lessig vs sanders?
[22:06]  * greg-g is confuzored
[22:07] <cmaloney> I'm hoping Lessig or Sanders win
[22:07] <cmaloney> the Democratic nomination
[22:07] <cmaloney> though I'm fearing the final contest will be Clinton v. Trump
[22:08] <greg-g> gotcha, different things
[22:08] <greg-g> not a a:b::c:d
[22:08] <cmaloney> Yeah, sorry
[22:08] <cmaloney> Fuck no
[22:08] <greg-g> lol
[22:08] <greg-g> though, Trump be Clinton's VP would be the best thing ever
[22:08] <greg-g> being*
[22:08] <cmaloney> I just wish Trump would just buy a circus and be off
[22:08] <cmaloney> be with his people
[22:09] <cmaloney> (actually, I don't think I hate clowns that much)
[22:11] <cmaloney> Unrelated: Plugging foreign shit into your car's computer is not a brilliant plan
[22:11] <cmaloney> who knew?
[22:37] <gamerchick02> so, uhm, mugorg... is the online meeting working or am i just super early?
[22:54] <cmaloney> Not sure
[22:54] <cmaloney> I'm not present either
[22:54] <cmaloney> Joining online
[22:54] <gamerchick02> ok
[22:54] <gamerchick02> so it seems like we're on the call but there's no video
[22:54] <cmaloney> Not yet.
[22:55] <gamerchick02> apparently 6:30 is the time people are supposed to arrive. :-P
[22:55] <cmaloney> Yeah
[22:55] <cmaloney> They're likely doing MUG business at the moment
[22:55] <gamerchick02> sorry, i'm in too many meetings at work that start late or go over
[22:56] <cmaloney> Heh
[22:56] <cmaloney> Yeah, I might make the start time later
[22:56] <gamerchick02> that's ok
[22:56] <cmaloney> but it's hard to gauge when the meeting itself will start
[22:56] <gamerchick02> i was the one late today. my meeting at 9 went til 10:15
[22:57] <gamerchick02> and i had a 10. so yeah
[22:57] <cmaloney> They might be having trouble as well. They're playing with library wifi
[22:58] <gamerchick02> oh ugh
[23:00] <cmaloney> Dammit
[23:01] <cmaloney> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gseovdunnymfgn62hg2cgxv7y4a?hl=en&authuser=0
[23:01] <cmaloney> For the time being
[23:01] <cmaloney> Apparnetly the person running the camera isn't joined in using hte MUG account
[23:03] <gamerchick02> ugh
[23:04] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's the link for the video for now
[23:04] <gamerchick02> there we go
[23:04] <gamerchick02> i had to shut off my camera real quick. hahahaha
[23:05] <gamerchick02> also thank you, i appreciate it
[23:05] <cmaloney> Heh
[23:07] <cmaloney> gamerchick02: Please mute. :)
[23:08] <gamerchick02> shit i'm sorry
[23:09] <cmaloney> np
[23:09] <gamerchick02> probably from my typing. :(
[23:09] <cmaloney> heh
[23:09] <gamerchick02> i type heavily. whoops
[23:09] <gamerchick02> AND it doesn't help that i have my dehumidifier going either
[23:13] <gamerchick02> has there always been an online meeting for MUG?
[23:14] <cmaloney> We've had about 6 or so
[23:14] <gamerchick02> wow nice
[23:14] <gamerchick02> usually i can't attend because of Nile
[23:15] <cmaloney> We record them also
[23:15] <cmaloney> That's via our Youtube channel
[23:17] <gamerchick02> oooh nice
[23:17] <gamerchick02> thanks