[00:01] <t-nelson> tats: It seems like some dependency is still the old OS version's and forcing the entire dependency graph for vlc to that version.
[00:02] <sleight> hi
[00:02] <sleight> i'm running a server
[00:02] <sleight> im just trying to get a local xterm running
[00:03] <t-nelson> sleight: Soudns like an oxymoron.
[00:03] <t-nelson> Servers generally aren't running X.
[00:03] <t-nelson> You just want a console or what?
[00:04] <tats> Bashing-om, how can i ppa-purge 10.5.9-2ubuntu1~vivid1?
[00:06] <sleight> yes
[00:06] <t-nelson> tats, you must still have some PPA enabled.
[00:06] <tats> t-nelson, is there a way to list all my ppas?
[00:07] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | tats
[00:07] <t-nelson> tats: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[00:09] <tats> oh my. yes i have tons of them...
[00:09] <sleight> here's what i actually mean- I'd like to have a minimal ubuntu install with dwm as a window manager
[00:10] <sleight> how do a get to there from a ubuntu-server install
[00:10] <tats> ok let me purge them
[00:11] <t-nelson> sleight: Did you try apt-get installing it?
[00:11] <t-nelson> s/it/dwm/
[00:11] <sleight> everything i've read says that's the wrong thing
[00:11] <t-nelson> DWM is available on my 14.04 server install
[00:12] <sleight> alternatively, i'll be happy with just being able to run xterm or st
[00:12] <Gui1111> Ubuntu is saying I have to have a CD, why can't i do it on my external HDD?
[00:12] <sleight> i know
[00:12] <Gui1111> (I don't have a CD/DVD nor can I find my CD drive anyway.
[00:12] <wileee> Gui1111, context?
[00:12] <t-nelson> sleight: So you've read stuff that says what not to do, yet doesn't tell you the right way?
[00:12] <Gui1111> Mounted the ISO, want to install Ubuntu, unable to do it without a CD. @Wileee
[00:13] <wileee> Gui1111, why and where mounting?
[00:13] <Gui1111> Right click ISO >Mount [windows 8]. Rub wubi.exe.
[00:13] <wileee> !wubi | Gui1111
[00:13] <Gui1111> !install
[00:13] <Gui1111> Thanks :)
[00:14] <wileee> Gui1111, Not supported and a bad idea from the start.
[00:14] <k1l> Gui1111: boot the usb as you boot a cd. then install from the usb
[00:14] <wileee> wubi that is
[00:14] <ObrienDave> NO NOT WUBI
[00:14] <Gui1111> How do I get the files onto the HDD?
[00:14] <Gui1111> just copy the ISO contents over?
[00:15] <wileee> Gui1111, end goal?
[00:15] <ObrienDave> burn ISO to DVD or USB stick, reboot, install
[00:15] <UbuntuNewb> Hello everybody. I got ssmtp working earlier on my server, but how do I tell ubuntu to use that as my default mail server? I also have exim installed, and the system appears to be using that.
[00:15] <Gui1111> Can I burn it to a 1tb External HDD?
[00:15] <kadiro> !bios
[00:15] <Gui1111> Using something like ISOTOUSB?
[00:15] <UbuntuNewb> Trying to set my server up so that all outgoing mail is automatically relayed through google apps
[00:16] <wileee> Gui1111, not a safe or always working method.
[00:16] <Gui1111> How would I do it?
[00:17] <ObrienDave> burn ISO to DVD or USB stick, reboot, install
[00:17] <wileee> Gui1111, You could use a virtual machine with just the iso
[00:17] <wileee> for install
[00:18] <maybejojo333> xterm -u8
[00:18] <Gui1111> ObrienDave: What do I use to Burn the ISO to USB?
[00:18] <ObrienDave> unetbootin, yumi, dd. your choice
[00:19] <sleight> what do you know, apt-get install just worked
[00:19] <wileee> Gui1111, Besides those, here is a website with multiple usb loaders running in windows,  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:20] <ObrienDave> *keeps forgetting that one*
[00:20] <wileee> multisystems in linux here
[00:20] <Gui1111> Thanks for the help :)
[00:20] <Gui1111> Wil ltry now.
[00:21] <wileee> hope they know of err UEFI
[00:21] <ObrienDave> they'll be baaaaaaack ;OP
[00:22] <op> ObrienDave, yes Sir ?! :p
[00:22] <wileee> time to wager, I got 5 on just can't boot ;)
[00:22] <UbuntuNewb> hmm it looks like ssmtp isn't working, either. Okay, is there somebody that can help me get my mail server to successfully relay all mail through google apps please? Been working on it forever and have gotten nowhere.
[00:23] <surgy> so does unetbootin make a persistant installation onto the usb drive? and now ubuntu thinks the usb drive is an hdd?
[00:23] <ObrienDave> geez louise, a nick of op??? the gods weep ;P
[00:24] <op> ObrienDave, Son! Do you want the OP power?
[00:24] <t-nelson> UbuntuNewb: You've read https://support.google.com/a/answer/2956491?hl=en ?
[00:24] <wileee> surgy, unetbootin can, it creates a file for saving, computer sees it as a media device, booted technically a HD sorta.
[00:25] <UbuntuNewb> t-nelson: Yes, that's related to setting google apps up to allow relaying. I am trying to set my local mail server up to relay to google apps
[00:25] <tats> t-nelson, Bashing-om ok so i did some ppa-purging. now " ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | xargs cat" now reveals that all ppas are actually disabled (all lines commented out).
[00:25] <tats> then ran apt-get update; apt-get remove vlc* vlc.*; apt-get install vlc
[00:25] <wileee> surgy, You have to watch external boots, the may come up as sda
[00:25] <tats> still the same issue
[00:25] <surgy> wileee, can i use the drive as a live install disk and install to the computer using this drive?
[00:25] <wileee> they*
[00:26] <Thpmp> Anyone know how to connect to my vpn withough a gui?
[00:26] <wileee> surgy, Can you explain exactly what that means, and your end goal.
[00:26] <kadiro> for multiboot usb have fun in: http://www.rmprepusb.com/
[00:27] <tats> t-nelson, Bashing-om ie.: "Depends: libgles1-mesa (>= 7.8.1) but it is not going to be installed or libgles1"
[00:27] <wileee> surgy, That drive, means nothing, be exact
[00:27] <t-nelson> tats: You need to figure out where all of those "ubuntu1~vivid1" alternatives are coming from.
[00:28] <Bashing-om> tats: Pastebin please the outputs of ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' So I see all in context .
[00:28] <surgy> wileee, i want a usb pen drive with a persistant os that can be used anywhere and also double as an installer.
[00:28] <surgy> wileee, can unetbootin do this?
[00:28] <wileee> surgy, A live on a usb with saved info via persistence and only makes the basic install, none of the work on there transfers.
[00:28] <UbuntuNewb> hmm, looks like I found a pretty good guide, except I don't have a inetd.conf ?
[00:29] <ikonia> inetd is dead
[00:29] <surgy> wileee, basicly
[00:29] <ikonia> so I suspect that is a very old guide
[00:29] <surgy> wileee, so i can play with the install and demo lubuntu to friends and if they like it i can install all from the same usb
[00:29] <wileee> surgy, A live ubuntu anything is for installing or just using.
[00:30] <wileee> surgy, Sure, however any extra beside the iso you loaded is not used on the install.
[00:30] <kadiro> the link i puted is very helpfull just puting isos ( one or many ) into pen drive and it work like a charm
[00:30] <ubuntu872> I put the ubuntu ISO on an external hard drive, how do I make it bootable?
[00:30] <ubuntu872> I used http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[00:31] <wileee> ubuntu872, Not a god idea really.
[00:31] <wileee> ubuntu872, THe best tool you can have is a dvd, or usb loaded.
[00:32] <ubuntu872> USB loaded?
[00:32] <wileee> ubuntu872, Really, the iso installed by DD or an app.
[00:32] <ObrienDave> burn ISO to DVD or USB stick, reboot, install
[00:32] <UbuntuNewb> ikonia- It's looked for by exim4
[00:32] <ikonia> what ?
[00:32] <ubuntu872> So using external HDD is bad idea?
[00:33] <wileee> ubuntu872, Yes for a number of reasons, first being you need a fat32 partition, and you could mess up and wipe the HD.
[00:33] <UbuntuNewb> ikonia: The inetd.conf error is coming from exim-config using dpkg-reconfigure
[00:33] <ubuntu872> It's an external HDD i don't care about.
[00:34] <wileee> runs slow, may not boot
[00:34] <wileee> if you value your time and ours do it correctly
[00:34] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: that seems unlikley that exim would depend on inetd.conf, more so when it doesn't depend on the inet package
[00:34]  * ObrienDave has never gotten an external USB drive to work that way
[00:34] <tats> Bashing-om, t-nelson : http://pastebin.com/wPPauSb5
[00:35] <UbuntuNewb> ikonia: If that is the case, than why is the very first error I get when i run dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config is that it can't find /etc/inted.conf ?
[00:35] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: no idea, the exim that ships with ubuntu should not depend on inetd
[00:35] <UbuntuNewb> What version comes 'shipped' with ubuntu?
[00:35] <UbuntuNewb> I had to apt-get install exim
[00:36] <ikonia> so you swapped out postfix for exim ?
[00:36] <UbuntuNewb> ikonia: Neither came installed, I had to install postfix first and it didn't work, so I uninstalled it and installed exim
[00:36] <UbuntuNewb> and that doesn't appear to work, either,.
[00:36] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: what version of ubuntu did you install ?
[00:36] <UbuntuNewb> 14.04
[00:37] <UbuntuNewb> server
[00:37] <ikonia> that comes with postfix
[00:37] <UbuntuNewb> Really? Cause I had to apt-get install it
[00:37] <Bashing-om> tats: look'm at your http://pastebin.com/wPPauSb5 .
[00:37] <ikonia> ahhh it's not installed by default, it's just the default choice
[00:37] <ikonia> just checked the docs
[00:38] <UbuntuNewb> yeah, all I am trying to do, is setup send-only relaying on my mail server to google docs
[00:38] <UbuntuNewb> google apps*
[00:38] <ikonia> so any MTA will do tht
[00:38] <UbuntuNewb> and can't find any help on doing it.
[00:38] <UbuntuNewb> The one that I found that was specifically for google apps, apparently is outdated, because it uses exim4, and the ubuntu version for some reason is looking for inetd.
[00:39] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: is it  warning or an error ?
[00:39] <ikonia> the inetd errror
[00:39] <UbuntuNewb> warning
[00:39] <UbuntuNewb> during exim4-config
[00:39] <ikonia> ok, ignore it
[00:39] <UbuntuNewb> error, sorry
[00:39] <ikonia> must be a legacy
[00:39] <UbuntuNewb> it shuts down the configuration
[00:39] <ikonia> really???
[00:39] <UbuntuNewb> yeah
[00:39] <ikonia> that seems very odd, inetd has been gone for a long long time
[00:40] <UbuntuNewb> That's what I thought, too, but apparently the apt version still requires it
[00:40] <UbuntuNewb> Or is looking for the config file for it
[00:40] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: hang on a second
[00:40] <UbuntuNewb> It's doing it when I select 'send-mail remotely; no local mail';
[00:41] <daftykins> UbuntuNewb: relays are a bad idea, you'll get shutdown for spam potential very quickly :)
[00:41] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/exim4 there is no info in there to suggest any depend on inetd
[00:41] <UbuntuNewb> daftykins: We use it exclusively at work, have for over four years. As long as your records are in your dns for google, it doesn't flag it as spam.
[00:42] <daftykins> why do it at all?
[00:42] <UbuntuNewb> hmm, it didnt look for it that time.
[00:42] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: you can make it go away with the inet-superserver package
[00:42] <daftykins> if google is your MX records then what do you need a mail server for o0
[00:43] <UbuntuNewb> daftykins: because all of my mail is done on google apps, and I need to be able to send mail from my server?
[00:43] <Bashing-om> surgy: Multo-boot usb see : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259682&highlight=usb ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073&highlight=usb .
[00:43] <daftykins> why run a server at all o0
[00:43] <UbuntuNewb> because mail needs to be able to be sent from the server?
[00:43] <UbuntuNewb> Without setting up a custom configuration for each website/service that needs to send mail?
[00:44] <daftykins> hmm web host huh
[00:44] <UbuntuNewb> Not really, but there are websites on the server.
[00:45] <UbuntuNewb> As well as potentially other things that may need to send mail.
[00:46] <ObrienDave> mail spam??? O.o
[00:46] <UbuntuNewb> Point being, the server needs to be able to send mail out of it, through google apps, where my mail is setup through. I am trying to configure the local mail-server to send through google apps, and it's not working.
[00:47] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: you just want an MTA locked down to localhost with a smarthost/relayhost configured to google
[00:47] <UbuntuNewb> ikonia: yes, that is exactly what I want, and I can't find any documentation that allows me to do that.
[00:47] <Bashing-om> tats: so far so good, let's check the package management system, pastebin ' sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' and then we see about VLC .
[00:47] <UbuntuNewb> The one I found for exim relied on inetd.conf apparently, although after uninstalling and reinstalling exim, it doesn't appear to be looking for it
[00:47] <stubblefield> any recommendations on program to make screen capture videos in ubuntu ?
[00:48] <ikonia> UbuntuNewb: ok- so inetd is just for spawning exim, however the current version runs as a daemon, so it won't cause you a problem
[00:49] <UbuntuNewb> ikonia: - I figured, but when I first configured it, it crashed the configuration cause it was looking for it. I uninstalled and reinstalled exim and now it appears to have configured correctly, I *think*
[00:52] <tats> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/GwcZGMmq
[00:53] <Bashing-om> tats: :Look'n at http://pastebin.com/GwcZGMmq .
[00:56] <kl0rth0> Hi. I have a console blanking issue which removes screen  after 10 minutes. I assume there might be a poweroff=7200 problem as well.
[00:57] <UbuntuNewb> grr this is annoying me.. doing everything these damn guides says and still it won't work
[00:58] <Bashing-om> tats: Yuk; You need to follow the pacjage manager's advise " they need to be reinstalled: " But -> "Package created with checkinstall 1.6.2" puts it out of my experience range .
[01:01] <kl0rth0> help......
[01:02] <tats> Bashing-om, i uninstalled them, now "sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C" yields "http://pastebin.com/i0RQjJnt"
[01:05] <syntroPi> hmm i finally managed get the latest w_scan from source to generale a proper channels.conf: just to notice sound is broken with vlc on ubuntu on dvb-c: are there other timeshifting alternatives to vlc?
[01:07] <rockstar_> How do I make Gamepad work in Ubuntu?
[01:07] <Bashing-om> tats: Look'm at your http://pastebin.com/i0RQjJnt .
[01:09] <batcommander_> 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade bad results: when logging in, drops login and refreshes to another login screen...#help please
[01:09] <daftykins> batcommander_: test guest session
[01:10] <wileee> rockstar_, run lsusb and identify the gamepads hardware info to include in this inquiry to the channel.
[01:10] <batcommander_> daftykins, does the same thing, although once when i tried it before, guest session /wanted/ to log in...but failed
[01:10] <daftykins> batcommander_: suggests you've got bigger issues then, what graphics hardware do you have?
[01:11] <t-nelson> batcommander_: ctl+alt+f1
[01:12] <t-nelson> Can you login there?
[01:12] <batcommander_> daftykins, not sure right off. on an intel core i5 lenovo laptop t410
[01:12] <rockstar_> did someone here responded to do lsusb?
[01:12] <daftykins> rockstar_: yeah just above... look up
[01:12] <wileee> wileee> rockstar_, run lsusb and identify the gamepads hardware info to include in this inquiry to the channel.
[01:12] <daftykins> batcommander_: "lspci" when logged in
[01:12] <rockstar_> wileee: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 003 Device 006: ID 046d:c21d Logitech, Inc. F310 Gamepad [XInput Mode]
[01:13] <wileee> rockstar_, to the channel. not me.
[01:13] <batcommander_> t-nelson, it says starting ACPI daemon...
[01:13] <rockstar_> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 003 Device 006: ID 046d:c21d Logitech, Inc. F310 Gamepad [XInput Mode]
[01:14] <t-nelson> batcommander_: F2 then?
[01:14] <wileee> rockstar_, Here is the google search, lots of info, https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu++Logitech,+Inc.+F310+Gamepad&hl=en&site=webhp&gbv=1&sei=YEzJVa_KLYzJogTt9Im4Ag
[01:15] <batcommander_> integrated graphics card
[01:15] <wileee> rockstar_, YOU might change the search to your exact ubuntu release, say 12.04  or 14.04..etc
[01:15] <t-nelson> batcommander_: Sorry, try ctl+alt+f2
[01:16] <daftykins> batcommander_: so intel CPU only huh?
[01:17] <batcommander_> t-nelson, daftykins i am logged in.
[01:17] <daftykins> to the TTY though right...
[01:17] <batcommander_> daftykins, correct. it seems like i can
[01:17] <daftykins> i think you should confirm your upgrade went ok
[01:17] <batcommander_> daftykins, how do i do that?
[01:18] <t-nelson> batcommander_: Take root, move your ~ to ~.bak and recreate your home dir.
[01:18] <rockstar_> ok awesome, now I can use jstest. Is there any game in Ubuntu that I can try with?
[01:18] <t-nelson> Then ctl+alt+f7 and try to login lightdm again.
[01:18] <daftykins> batcommander_: well first up lets see what your system thinks it is, "lsb_release -d"
[01:19] <daftykins> t-nelson: since you're new, let me humbly request that when i start on a support query already - it's not polite nor helpful to join in and cause 'too many cooks'
[01:19] <rodrigobrrj> boa noite gente
[01:19] <rodrigobrrj> algum br aí?
[01:20] <daftykins> english only.
[01:20] <rodrigobrrj> sorry
[01:20] <t-nelson> daftykins: New, right.  Didn't notice you making any progress before so figured I'd pitch in.
[01:20] <daftykins> that's because i was waiting on a reply...
[01:21] <Bashing-om> tats: Now what does ' sudo dpkg -C ' tell us ?
[01:22] <batcommander_> daftykins, working...didn't see your last
[01:22] <daftykins> what is working? didn't see my last what?
[01:22] <tats> Bashing-om, empty
[01:22] <batcommander_> ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[01:22] <daftykins> alright, sounds ok
[01:23] <daftykins> batcommander_: are you online via a wired connection or do you use wifi on this machine?
[01:23] <bbigras> Is there a way to connect to an l2tp/ipsec vpn with the network-manager on vivid?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> tats: So now install vlc ? Is that where we are at ?
[01:23] <batcommander_> daftykins, i was working! no, using a wireless connection to the machine i am working on
[01:24] <tats> Bashing-om, yes i tried that. yield the same error.
[01:24] <daftykins> batcommander_: ok so presumably you can't get it online right now. use "ls -al ~/" as your user and check no files inside your home directory are owned by root
[01:25] <Bashing-om> tats: My attention is split a lot of ways . show me please what the error is in context . ' sudo apt-get install -- reinstall vlc ' ??
[01:25] <batcommander_> daftykins, nothing in there
[01:25] <daftykins> batcommander_: are you sure you're username@host right now?
[01:26] <daftykins> or is it because you followed t-nelson's suggestion...
[01:26] <batcommander_> daftykins, yes, i can see that as the shell prompt
[01:26] <batcommander_> daftykins, i followed t-nelson
[01:26] <daftykins> ugh.
[01:27] <daftykins> well look in the backup instead and check whether it had any files owned by root :P
[01:27] <tats> Bashing-om, here: http://pastebin.com/hNrSUmNY
[01:28] <Bashing-om> tats: Thanks, look'n at your http://pastebin.com/hNrSUmNY .
[01:29] <Bashing-om> !info libgles1-mesa
[01:29] <batcommander> daftykins, /bin/ is owned by root
[01:31] <daftykins> batcommander: no, i'm saying to look in your /home/username which you moved to be a backup, i.e. /home/username.bak or something :P
[01:33] <batcommander> daftykins, sorry, that's ~/usr/bin
[01:33] <daftykins> still not relevant
[01:34] <daftykins> we're talking about your ~ here before you moved it :P
[01:34] <Bashing-om> tats: Yokes. that one scares me, and I am afraid of nothing .. If ya do ' apt-cache depends libgles1-mesa ; apt-cache rdepends libgles1-mesa ' you will get an idea why . We can try to install and see what results : ' sudo apt-get install libgles1-mesa ' .
[01:34] <batcommander> daftykins, it's inside the .bak i created
[01:35] <daftykins> batcommander: yes so now "ls -al" that path and check the files in there for ownership =|
[01:36] <userme> anyone know why my inux when first got was fast now slow as s@@@
[01:36] <batcommander> daftykins, yeah, i did that. one of them is named bin
[01:37] <daftykins> a bin in your home folder o0
[01:37] <wileee> !details | userme,
[01:37] <daftykins> batcommander: ok well this approach is going nowhere fast. did you recreate /home/username and try logging in again?
[01:37] <userme> its going very slow
[01:38] <tats> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/pF8ZEvBW
[01:38] <userme> seems like lagging i opened a page and still trying
[01:39] <batcommander> daftykins, yeah, it's because I modified my .bashrc to run a todo_comletion from there...running todo.sh on the command line led me to put that there
[01:39] <daftykins> i have no idea what you're on about right now :)
[01:40] <batcommander> daftykins, i don't know what you mean by "recreate home directory"
[01:40] <daftykins> oh the home bin, yeah moved on.
[01:40] <daftykins> well does /home/username exist or not now? since you moved /home/username to /home/username.bak as per instructions
[01:42] <batcommander> daftykins, yes, that explains why i have a bin in ~. no, usrname.bak does not exist; i mv'd it back to usrname.
[01:42] <daftykins> well why did you do that o0
[01:43] <batcommander> daftykins, so we'd be back at square one. i realized that you and t-nelson didn't coordinate and i followed some of both instructions. moving along...
[01:43] <daftykins> so nothing else in /home/username/ is owned by root?
[01:44] <daftykins> you should probably share what you do in future ;)
[01:44] <userme> why my linux xubuntu lagging badly
[01:45] <userme> never was like this before
[01:45] <daftykins> define lag.
[01:45] <userme> slow
[01:45] <daftykins> at what?
[01:45] <daftykins> doing the taxes? training the swimteam?
[01:46] <userme> very slow.  i try to open a tab on firefox and takes fe seconds and then webpage takes ages
[01:46] <daftykins> userme: test the guest session
[01:46] <whoever> hi all,  is there a rull of thoumb for compose key on how to generating chars with it, ie does it 'uy
[01:46] <batcommander> daftykins, nothing i can see...i can't seem to page through the results but none i see are owned by root
[01:46] <daftykins> batcommander: "ls -al /path/username | less"
[01:47] <whoever> it work for askii chars ie shapes  or just letters with accent marks
[01:47] <userme> sorry daft what  matete?
[01:47] <userme> mate
[01:47] <daftykins> log into the *guest* session to test
[01:47] <userme> got ya
[01:48] <batcommander> ok it says root owns .. and bin
[01:48] <daftykins> but nothing else?
[01:49] <batcommander> daftykins, nothing else
[01:50] <whoever> http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/compose/  ie is there a corrilation from the ASCII to copose key code
[01:50] <daftykins> mmmk, well since the guest session didn't work i don't think this is going to be of any help, but "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" then "sudo service lightdm restart" and try logging in again at TTY7
[01:51] <batcommander> daftykins, ok...don't know how to "log in again at TTY7" means yet, proceeding with the rest
[01:51] <daftykins> press Alt+F7
[01:54] <syntroPi> is there any tv watching program which supports timeshifting except the broken vlc?
[01:55] <ObrienDave> vlc broken? the gods weep
[01:55] <batcommander> daftykins, alt+f7 didn't work...
[01:55] <daftykins> batcommander: it should get you back to the login screen.
[01:55] <daftykins> it may even have auto switched from restarting lightdm
[01:56] <al2o3-cr> syntroPi: mpv/mplayer2?
[01:56] <batcommander> daftykins, i was brought back to GUI login screen before alt+f7...and hitting those two keys didn't get a cli login
[01:57] <syntroPi> al2o3-cr, are those two supporting timeshifting (eg. pause in livetv)?
[01:57] <daftykins> batcommander: they're not meant to, try logging in now.
[01:57] <al2o3-cr> syntroPi: Yes.
[01:57] <batcommander> same as before...it drops the login and reverts to gui login
[01:58] <t-nelson> syntroPi: HAve you tried searching?  There are a ton of options  for live tv on linux.
[01:58] <al2o3-cr> syntroPi: Only if you dvb receiver supports such feature though.
[01:58] <al2o3-cr> *your
[01:58] <Idle845818> t-nelson, when you say live tv you mean pick up signal from a pc running linux?
[01:59] <Idle845818> like digital signal
[01:59] <t-nelson> Idle845818: With an appropriate tuner, yes.
[01:59] <ObrienDave> like DVR software?
[01:59] <t-nelson> Or cable box, satellite
[01:59] <Idle845818> so does the tuner connect to a port on the pc?
[01:59] <ObrienDave> yes
[02:00] <t-nelson> Why are two people responding who aren't the guy with the question? :)
[02:00] <daftykins> batcommander: mmm, well i think it's reinstall time.
[02:00] <daftykins> batcommander: i'm sure you could bury through logs and so on and mess around, maybe reinstall unity - something like that, but yeah. shortest approach.
[02:00] <syntroPi> al2o3-cr, hmm what you mean by that? its an usb stick which can tune into channels, its cant store anything
[02:01]  * ObrienDave bows out of t-nelson's way ;P
[02:01] <batcommander> daftykins, thanks for the help
[02:01] <daftykins> np!
[02:01] <t-nelson> syntroPi: The best solutions use a backend for all of the tuner related stuff, then stream to a client
[02:01] <t-nelson> Checkout something like tvheadend.
[02:01] <al2o3-cr> syntroPi: I mean, you can only pause live TV, if the dvb reciever supports pausing live TV
[02:02] <t-nelson> al2o3-cr: That's not the tuners job
[02:02] <syntroPi> al2o3-cr, what does mean supporting that?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> tats: Sorry, minor emergency intervened - Lawn mower is now history - . Lemme get caught up and I be back with you .
[02:03] <Bashing-om> !info libglapi-mesa
[02:03] <al2o3-cr> t-nelson: who's job is it?
[02:03] <t-nelson> al2o3-cr: Software
[02:04] <t-nelson> Or the driver if the vendor is completely Chinese.
[02:04] <al2o3-cr> t-nelson: on what the dvb or mplayer?
[02:04] <syntroPi> al2o3-cr, what i mean by timeshifting is tune into a channel, watch a bit, then press pause but have it cached to /tmp in background, when i resume (deactivate pause) it will play from cache while still recording to that chached content in background
[02:04] <ObrienDave> *sighs* DVR software
[02:05] <al2o3-cr> exactly
[02:05] <t-nelson> syntroPi: 20:01:41 < t-nelson> Checkout something like tvheadend.
[02:05] <syntroPi> al2o3-cr, i dont understand what that has to do with the tuner
[02:05] <ObrienDave> NOTHING
[02:05] <t-nelson> syntroPi: al2o3-cr doesn't know what they're on about
[02:06] <t-nelson> syntroPi: Go get tvheadend
[02:06] <ObrienDave> the SOFTWARE does the caching
[02:06]  * t-nelson caches ObrienDave 
[02:06] <al2o3-cr> t-nelson: Ok, whatever
[02:06] <ObrienDave> ;P
[02:06]  * al2o3-cr sheesh
[02:07] <ObrienDave> obviously an army of one ;P
[02:07]  * ObrienDave bows out of t-nelson's way ;P
[02:08] <tats> Bashing-om, rip lawnmower. thanks, still here.
[02:08] <syntroPi> t-nelson, i think i tried tvheadend long time ago and afaik zapping was kinda unconvenient
[02:09] <Bashing-om> tats: Let's see if we can find out why the elevated "libglapi-mesa 10.5.9-2ubuntu1~vivid1" package is installed. What returns ' apt-cache policy libglapi-mesa ' ?
[02:09] <t-nelson> syntroPi: Luckily it's been heavily developed in that long time.
[02:10] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: Probably vivid-updates being enabled?
[02:10] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: Maybe .. but I do suspect we have PPA leftovers ??
[02:11] <tats> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/JgFXBpqK
[02:11] <Bashing-om> tats: Look'n at http://pastebin.com/JgFXBpqK .
[02:12] <tats> t-nelson, Bashing-om : yes, my vivid-updates are enabled. here's a pastebin of my source.list: http://pastebin.com/LjPiNyLj
[02:12] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: There's certainly some source still around.
[02:14] <abb0> how does ubuntu dertimine which version is going to be the LTS.
[02:14] <abb0> jc
[02:15] <t-nelson> abb0: Every other .04 release
[02:15] <abb0> b/c ive seen that theres a 14.04 LTS and 14.10 and 15 even. lol made me wonder
[02:15] <abb0> oooooooooo
[02:15] <daftykins> abb0: it's the .04 release every 2 years
[02:15] <abb0> ok the .04s are the ones
[02:15] <daftykins> no, not every
[02:15] <daftykins> 15.04 is not
[02:15] <t-nelson> abb0: No 15.04 isn't one
[02:15] <abb0> oooo ok
[02:15] <t-nelson> 16.04 will be
[02:15] <daftykins> 10.04... 12.04... 14.04... 16.04...
[02:15] <abb0> every 2 yrs
[02:15] <abb0> ok
[02:16] <abb0> but makes me wonder
[02:16] <abb0> why even make the other versions
[02:16] <abb0> 14,10 and 15.04
[02:16] <t-nelson> abb0: Real-world testing
[02:16] <abb0> just trial and error for 16.04? lol
[02:16] <abb0> ahhh yeah thats what i thought
[02:16] <abb0> makes sense
[02:17] <t-nelson> No half-sane developer would be comfortable doing blind releases of an OS every two years.
[02:17] <abb0> yeah
[02:21] <syntroPi> ooh my dvb is a real mess
[02:21] <abb0> sooooooo what can i do if i cant view my secondary hdd, like the computer sees  it bc its on my unity launcher but i cant mount it
[02:21] <abb0> or access it
[02:21] <daftykins> syntroPi: i think this topic would make a lot more sense over in tvheadend's channel or elsewhere.
[02:21] <abb0> now ihavent tried since comin from windows
[02:21] <daftykins> abb0: still the d-bus error?
[02:23] <userme> still slow
[02:23] <daftykins> userme: ok, what graphics hardware?
[02:23] <userme> not gd 1 gig ram was on vista b4
[02:24] <userme> soz noy vista xp
[02:24] <daftykins> no, what is the graphics card?
[02:24] <daftykins> if you have 1GB RAM then no wonder things aren't great.
[02:25] <userme> was on xp and was ok and i had ubuntu and got xbuntu as used lot lower requiremnets
[02:25] <Bashing-om> tats: t-nelson Sourcelist looks OK. I -"think"- this is safe : ' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ' to get rid of the old packages in the cache. The biggy: ' sudo apt-get purge libglapi-mesa ; sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa ' . See if now 10.5.2-0ubuntu1 will install .
[02:25] <syntroPi> (gnome) mplayer completely freezes on trying to zap i had to kill -KILL it
[02:25] <Fudge> does nautilus still have the hover feature for playing songs
[02:25] <daftykins> userme: can you answer the question then? if you don't know what card you have, run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "lspci | pastebinit" in the terminal
[02:26] <userme> xbuntu was ok great on here and its only recently
[02:26] <userme> its sis
[02:26] <daftykins> SiS? oy vey.
[02:26] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: You're sure that's the last package with reqs?
[02:26] <bazhang> sis video card?
[02:26] <daftykins> userme: can you run the above commands anyway?
[02:26] <userme> k
[02:26] <daftykins> bazhang: blast from the past :)
[02:27] <bazhang> daftykins, thats going to be slow no matter the OS
[02:27] <daftykins> yeah i know. i'd like to see proof first though
[02:28] <userme> can it be virus
[02:28] <daftykins> no.
[02:28] <t-nelson> Did you piss off the NSA?
[02:28] <bazhang> userme , if its sis, its not well supported nor fast
[02:28] <t-nelson> No one else is owning a fresh Linux install.
[02:28] <daftykins> t-nelson: inappropriate.
[02:29] <bazhang> t-nelson, thats not helpful cut it out
[02:29] <userme> yeah its defo sis 671 card
[02:30] <daftykins> ok, i don't think you can do anything about that
[02:30] <daftykins> i wouldn't make my worst enemies run a system of that age
[02:30] <tats> Bashing-om, trying that
[02:30] <userme> ouch
[02:30] <userme> VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[02:30] <Bashing-om> t-nelson: tats :: Not at all 100% positive what the result is going to be .
[02:31] <t-nelson> Bashing-om: That's what backups are for :)
[02:32] <userme> why was ok when first install xbuntu now slower why same lappy
[02:32] <tats> Bashing-om, purge yields: https://paste.ee/p/rSkZs
[02:33] <Bashing-om> userme: Sis is not well supported, and the 671 series has it's own set of problems . for starters see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422 .
[02:33] <userme> yeah i know mate had a hell of time getting a driver for resolution
[02:34] <userme> thats why went xbuntu or got recommned lubuntu as there light over unbuntu
[02:35] <daftykins> userme: because times change. the kernel changes, the drivers change...
[02:35] <daftykins> (or get abandoned)
[02:35] <daftykins> yes light, but not for museum piece hardware
[02:35] <userme> musuem lol
[02:35] <Bashing-om> userme: You have done your homework !
[02:36] <userme> only 7 yr old
[02:36] <userme> the lappy not me
[02:36] <daftykins> SiS were rubbish on release.
[02:37] <userme> would it have virus
[02:37] <userme> or unlikely
[02:37] <daftykins> i already said no.
[02:37] <userme> did ya sorry didnt see it
[02:37] <bazhang> userme try lubuntu perhaps
[02:37] <khss> hgai
[02:38] <userme> oh yea sox draft just scrolled up
[02:38] <bazhang> userme nothing is going to make a slow old system like that fast
[02:38] <daftykins> i bet a quick pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would show something like vesa is in use - and that won't change easily.
[02:39] <userme> vesa the adriver
[02:39] <userme> ffs
[02:39] <surgy> hello
[02:39] <userme> is vesa a driver
[02:39] <surgy> in chrome does pepperflash offer better performance than flashplugin ?
[02:39] <daftykins> yep
[02:39] <daftykins> userme: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and share the link
[02:40] <daftykins> surgy: don't think flash it usable with it anymore, pepper is the only choice
[02:40] <userme> i know can make a old dog fast but from install of xbuntu to now its got slower
[02:40] <khss> da pottaaaa
[02:40] <surgy> daftykins, oh then it must install by default?
[02:40] <daftykins> userme: upgrade time.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> tats: look'n at https://paste.ee/p/rSkZs .
[02:40] <wileee> surgy, sometimes yes sometimes no, you have to make the call.
[02:40] <daftykins> surgy: don't know, chrome isn't provided by ubuntu.
[02:40] <userme> got pc running windows 10
[02:40] <khss> hai
[02:41] <khss> pinne enta parupadi
[02:41] <khss> abvp
[02:41] <daftykins> userme: this channel isn't for story time, either share the log file above as suggested or it's game over / upgrade time
[02:41] <userme> and ps4, ps3, wii u. vitas, smartphones enough for net
[02:41] <daftykins> khss: english only.
[02:41] <khss> sfi
[02:41] <khss> rss
[02:41] <daftykins> RSS feeds yep, nice
[02:41] <khss> yuva morcha
[02:41] <khss> dyfi
[02:42] <Bashing-om> !info libgles2
[02:42] <daftykins> bazhang: i think our guest needs escorting off the premises
[02:43] <daftykins> khss: you are from L.A. yes?
[02:43] <khss> poda
[02:43] <khss> hai
[02:43] <bazhang> libgles2-mesa, libgles2-mesa-dbg, libgles2-mesa-dev Bashing-om
[02:43] <bazhang> khss, got an ubuntu support question?
[02:43] <khss> noooo
[02:44] <khss> asap
[02:44] <khss> who r u
[02:44] <bazhang> Bashing-om, when in doubt /msg ubottu find package
[02:44] <userme> ffs st
[02:45] <bazhang> khss this is ubuntu support ONLY , please take chat elsewhere
[02:45] <Bashing-om> bazhang: Thanks, things not adding up . "package serach results" say non-existent !
[02:45] <bazhang> Bashing-om, the bot can often suss it out if you PM find with it
[02:46] <daftykins> yeah info only works on an exact match
[02:49] <abb0> daftykins: yes i have a d-bus error
[02:49] <abb0> sorry didnt see when you said something earlier i was busy
[02:49] <abb0> been tryin to search how ubuntu is
[02:49] <daftykins> search how it is?
[02:49] <abb0> whoops
[02:50] <abb0> sent that accident
[02:50] <abb0> accidentally
[02:50] <abb0> ignore the been tryin to search line
[02:50] <abb0> i get a d-bus error, all i can think of is it was formatted on a windows pc
[02:50] <daftykins> so show us what it thinks your disk is by installing 'pastebinit' then running "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[02:50] <abb0> perhaps linux cant read that or w/e
[02:50] <daftykins> no that's not something that would cause errors.
[02:51] <syntroPi> t-nelson: from which source/repo would you recomment installing tvheadend on vivid x64?
[02:51] <abb0> k ill install that and brb im still novice so might take a sec
[02:51] <syntroPi> *recommend
[02:51] <Bashing-om> tats: As around and around we go. What returns ' apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa ' .
[02:51] <daftykins> syntroPi: take it to the tvheadend channel. their site has ubuntu packages.
[02:52] <syntroPi> daftykins, on freenode? there are two ppl idling there
[02:53] <tats> Bashing-om, by mistake i did a purge libgles2-mesa. now apt-cache policy returns: https://paste.ee/p/5wyZt
[02:53] <abb0> here you go ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12053067/
[02:53] <daftykins> syntroPi: in #hts ?
[02:53] <abb0> damn what is the shortcut to paste, i keep hitting control v
[02:54] <daftykins> where are you pasting?
[02:54] <abb0> i was trying to paste that link
[02:54] <Bashing-om> tats: look'n at https://paste.ee/p/5wyZt .
[02:55] <daftykins> *where* are you pasting? what program?
[02:55] <abb0> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12053067/
[02:55] <abb0> bro i just mean in general
[02:55] <abb0> windows uses ctrl+v
[02:55] <daftykins> yeah that's the same paste as before
[02:55] <daftykins> don't say bro, this isn't the street.
[02:55] <abb0> figured that linux has a version
[02:55] <daftykins> yeah and so does Linux
[02:55] <abb0> ook
[02:55] <daftykins> but some *programs* use ctrl+shift+v
[02:55] <Bashing-om> tats: Yeah ! looks doable to me .. What about ' sudo apt-get install libgles2-mesa ' ?
[02:56] <abb0> did you feel bro was disrespectful
[02:56] <abb0> if so i apologize
[02:56] <syntroPi> daftykins, ooh thanks i didnt know that it was named like that
[02:56] <daftykins> no it's just street talk.
[02:56] <abb0> what exactly is street talk
[02:56] <daftykins> syntroPi: ok well it was on the front page of their website, so - rub a few brain cells together next time ;)
[02:56] <wileee> also culturally linked
[02:56] <abb0> your helping ppl ill leave you alone lol
[02:56] <rockstar_> I wanted to upload file from html and php in /var/www. It gave me error earlier. But after using sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www. It worked. Can anybody explain what was going on?
[02:56] <daftykins> abb0: off topic for this channel, that's what :)
[02:57] <daftykins> abb0: so you want to mount the 1TB WD that's internal, or the 1TB WD my book external?
[02:57] <tats> Bashing-om, https://paste.ee/p/Fh1Rc
[02:57] <abb0> the mybook is 8tb
[02:57] <abb0> the internal is 1tb
[02:58] <abb0> and i just want the 1tb to work
[02:58] <ObrienDave> mybook, 8tb? what?
[02:58] <abb0> yes 8tb mybook duo lol
[02:58] <daftykins> ObrienDave: looks like two disks in RAID, 'my book duo'
[02:58] <daftykins> abb0: eh, irrelevant - which do you want is the point
[02:58] <abb0> correct
[02:58] <abb0> i said the 1tb
[02:59] <daftykins> abb0: if that's set to RAID0 you'll lose everything when one dies :P
[02:59] <daftykins> that's gonna be a day full of tears
[02:59] <abb0> right i realize that and im in the process of building a NAS atm lol
[02:59] <abb0> ;p
[02:59] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:59] <daftykins> abb0: so now "mount | pastebinit"
[03:00] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone.  i have a question.  i have a lenovo t420 laptop that was running ubuntu 14.10 on a regular hard drive.  today i installed a samsung 850 500GB ssd and installed ubuntu 14.10 on it.  i was going to copy over /home from my old hard drive to the ssd; but i realize i realize /home on the old hard drive is encrypted.  is there a way to decrypt this? when i login to ubuntu lts on the SSD i can't access the old hard
[03:00] <arooni-mobile>  drive's /home.  what to do?
[03:00] <abb0> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12053101/
[03:00] <cfhowlett> arooni-mobile, first things first: 14.10?  END OF LIFE AND UNSUPPORTED!
[03:00] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: booting and copying would be easier.
[03:01] <syntroPi> daftykins, hmm its five in the morning here already too late for any coffee, maybe i should continue another day... seems like quite a complex setup
[03:01] <Bashing-om> tats: Where in the world does the elevated package come from . The PPAs have been removed from the equation ? show ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and lets make sure !
[03:01] <daftykins> syntroPi: i don't care :)
[03:02] <daftykins> abb0: alright so lets see that error again. "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt" - then show whether that spits out any errors.
[03:02] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, ok after i ocpy it all over
[03:02] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, what should i use to copy over?
[03:03] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Why a eol install
[03:03] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: cp... rsync... knock yourself out :)
[03:03] <daftykins> wileee: that's the old install, arooni-mobile is gonna install 14.04 on the new SSD
[03:03] <daftykins> :>
[03:03] <arooni-mobile> i'm sorry i meant to say i installed 14.04 on the SSD
[03:03] <wileee> cool
[03:03] <arooni-mobile> i got that wrong
[03:03] <arooni-mobile> but 14.04 lts is already running on the SSD
[03:04] <tats> Bashing-om, https://paste.ee/p/cXxJF
[03:05] <arooni-mobile> so once i finish copying over the /home directory ; what should i do with the existing stuff in /home
[03:05] <arooni-mobile> delete the drive and reformat it?
[03:05] <daftykins> depends what you want to use it for...
[03:05] <daftykins> does your system take two at once?
[03:05] <arooni-mobile> theres no way to disable the /home encryption without reformatting the partition?
[03:06] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, yes i can run both simultaneously
[03:06] <daftykins> so you could use it as a backup drive
[03:06] <daftykins> or mount it for media storage, whatever goes really
[03:06] <Bashing-om> tats: look'n at https://paste.ee/p/cXxJF .
[03:06] <arooni-mobile> so how do i get all the software i installed over to the new one?  make a list of packages and then install that on the SSD?
[03:06] <tats> Bashing-om, there's nothing in the .list that is not commented out but there's a few in the other extensions files
[03:08] <Bashing-om> tats: Look'n, you for sure want this ione gone " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/pdfocr/ubuntu quantal main " as that repo does not exist . Still looking it over .
[03:08] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: yeah but i think you should just install things as you need them, reduce the cruft.
[03:09] <cfhowlett> arooni-mobile, this is one method but daftykins has advised you well:    http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/how-to-backuprestore-your-installed.html
[03:10] <arooni-mobile> before i willy nilly copy over the entire /home directory whats that program i can use to visualize where the majority of storage i've used ?
[03:10] <arooni-mobile> id like to delete any crap that i dont need to copy over to the new drive first
[03:11] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: you have a knack for turning a small task into a week long affair
[03:11] <Bashing-om> tats: ^^ and " deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam " you arte on vivid. Is steam not supported in vived ?
[03:11] <arooni-mobile> just want to get this right;  not trying to be complicated
[03:11] <cfhowlett> !steam
[03:12] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: getting it wrong is how you learn :)
[03:13] <arooni-mobile> so to understand correctly theres no way to undo the encryption on the /home directory;  i just need to copy what i want over then reformat to one big ext4 backup drive
[03:13] <cfhowlett> ehhh, FIXING what you did wrong is how you learn (?)
[03:14] <daftykins> hehe, ok doing it wrong is step #1 to learning ;D
[03:14] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: might be a way to decrypt but that'll take forever, just get it done :)
[03:14] <cfhowlett> daftykins, agree2agree
[03:15] <tats> Bashing-om, wait, this seems to be linked somehow with gstreamer at qt5; there's a software i'm developing; i'm not the one doing the packaging though. it's the "mapmap" ppa. i disabled it but the package is still installed. if i do sudo apt-cache depends mapmap: https://paste.ee/p/BvpkR
[03:15] <tats>  * i meant " with gstreamer *and* qt5"
[03:16] <tats> i will try uninstalling mapmap
[03:17] <Bashing-om> tats: Will look at that last . Not directly related but there is a limit on how many keys the system will sustain. What returns ' ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l ' ?
[03:17] <tats> Bashing-om, 38
[03:20] <daftykins> abb0: so uh... did you run it yet or not?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> tats: You are but 2 under the limit ... Keep that in mind or get rid of all you do not need . As to " Depends: libqt5core5a " I do not know how we are going to get around your developemnt in qt5. But yeah that do seem to be the bottle neck . Set up some kind of a container to work in ???
[03:22] <tats> Bashing-om, I don't mind blowing up qt5 for now.
[03:26] <tats> Bashing-om, so apt-get remove libqt5core5a ? this will remove a lot of packages
[03:28] <B4r4t4> ola
[03:28] <tats> Bashing-om, hmmm it will also remove ubuntu-desktop ... maybe not a great idea?
[03:29] <B4r4t4> How to use this IRC ?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> B4r4t4, you're using it now.  what's your ubuntu problem?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> tats: Not at all sure how to approach this .. nd yeah proceed with caution ( more so than I have exercised !) .. what one can do is 'look' with the -s flag to "simulate" what will happen .
[03:31] <B4r4t4> Sorry... I new in Linux... and I am learning to use this IRC
[03:32] <daftykins> support chat only
[03:32] <cfhowlett> B4r4t4, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[03:32] <Bashing-om> tats: To ever remove a system library is not something I an ever comfortable doing. I am pondeeing on a way to proceed.
[03:33] <Bashing-om> pondering*
[03:33] <B4r4t4> I will try another room. Excuse me
[03:35] <tats> Bashing-om, here's a summary of where i'm at: https://paste.ee/p/zq9w2
[03:36] <tats> Bashing-om, seems i cannot reinstall libglapi-mesa because "it cannot be downloaded". trying to remove it instead yields "qml-module-qtfeedback : Depends: libqt5feedback5 but it is not going to be installed"
[03:38] <Bashing-om> tats: There is a term for this condition -> dependency hell . No relation to the package manager it is apt -ly termed. Lemme look at the latest .
[03:41] <Bashing-om> tats: We can FORCE a package installation, But But no telling what else we will break . still pondering what to do, OH what to do .
[03:45] <Bashing-om> tats: Honestly, all I know to do is to save your development work, and purge 'mapmap' see then if we can get the dependencies straight .
[03:45] <tats> Bashing-om, i already done a apt-get remove mapmap
[03:47] <Bashing-om> tats: Status of the package menager now ' sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ? See what we can address presently .
[03:50] <tats> Bashing-om, not much. "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[03:52] <nicekiwi> is it safe to run apt-get auto-remove to remove old kernels?
[03:53] <nicekiwi> once again by /boot is full >_>
[03:53] <daftykins> yes
[03:53] <cfhowlett> generally yes nicekiwi
[03:53] <daftykins> or just manually remove all but the newest two
[03:53] <Bashing-om> tats: Let's see if we gat any help ' apt-get install libglapi-mesa --reinstall ' .
[03:53] <nicekiwi> 1.6GB of space freed up :D
[03:54] <cfhowlett> how many kernels did you have!?  nicekiwi
[03:54] <tats> Bashing-om, yes it says "Reinstallation of libglapi-mesa is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[03:55] <nicekiwi> cfhowlett, uhh maybe 13
[03:55] <Bashing-om> tats: It is there, wonder what we have done that the system is upset so about . think'n .
[03:55] <nicekiwi> sudo reboot
[03:55] <nicekiwi> fuck
[03:55] <nicekiwi> opps
[03:55] <nicekiwi> soz
[03:55]  * daftykins sharpens a penguin for nicekiwi 
[03:55] <nicekiwi> got two keyboards infront of me :P
[03:55] <cfhowlett> mighty slap enabled
[03:56]  * nicekiwi cowers behind the FSF's might horns
[03:56] <nicekiwi> mighty*
[03:56] <TravisTheNavi> Is it possible to run Unity3D on Ubuntu LTS?
[03:57] <TravisTheNavi> By the way, hello daftykins! You helped me the other day with my CS:GO audio problem.
[03:57] <daftykins> did it do anything?
[03:57] <tats> Bashing-om, if it cannot be downloaded, isn't it because it was part of a ppa that has been purged?
[03:58] <TravisTheNavi> It fixed the problem, though I have noticed a glitch occurring once or twice within the past 10 hours or so of playing, where the audio stops altogether. I just restart Steam and CS, and it is good to go.
[03:59] <daftykins> hmm
[03:59] <daftykins> well, there are always other games.
[04:00] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: perhaps it's a sign to not play for 10hrs straight :) I've heard counterstrike works pretty well on linux never got into it though, sounds like a bug in the game though rather than a system problem given restarting the game itself fixes the problem
[04:01] <Bashing-om> tats: Quite possible .. as it is an "optional" package in the main repo. But do we not have to have it to install VLC ?
[04:01] <daftykins> plus some of us were playing CS over 15 years ago *cough*
[04:03] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: regarding Unity looks like not yet http://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/07/01/the-state-of-unity-on-linux/
[04:03] <cfhowlett> *56k* for the win!
[04:03] <wafflejock> oh that's for the editor
[04:03] <Bashing-om> tats: I have lost track of my references. Going to clear my slate if it is alright with you and we start all over ??
[04:04] <skaz> anyone good with transmissions permissions?
[04:04] <TravisTheNavi> daftykins, Yeah, and the game is still popular to this day! It is pure (g)old!
[04:04] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: I was pretty excited for 56k for sure, could get those real player video streams 10fps of potato
[04:04] <daftykins> TravisTheNavi: newp :P
[04:04] <idle84818> -if a linux os is already installed on a pc(eg ubuntu) is it too late to setup dm crypt with luks?
[04:05] <cfhowlett> idle84818, no you can do  post install encryption
[04:05] <cfhowlett> !encrypt
[04:06] <tats> Bashing-om, sure, no problem
[04:08] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: internet says Unity in wine can work http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php/Running_Unity_on_Linux_through_Wine there's also a YouTube vid if you prefer that format
[04:09] <TravisTheNavi> wafflejock, Thank you.
[04:10] <Bashing-om> tats: OK, from square one, one more time .. ' sudo apt-get install vlc ' and lets see what we have to do .
[04:14] <arooni-mobile> can i delete the .Private directory with stuff like : .ecryptfs/david/.Private/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWbHt
[04:20] <tats> Bashing-om, https://paste.ee/p/oHNaY
[04:20] <anthonyeverhart> y
[04:20] <anthonyeverhart> hey
[04:22] <Bashing-om> tats: K; I be look'n . See where we go from there .
[04:23] <idle84818> if a operating system is running in virtualbox does it use the loopback network interface to network?
[04:23] <idle84818> that is a ubuntu based linux distro ofc
[04:23] <cfhowlett> idle84818, if that's how you set it up, yes.  #vbox for more
[04:24] <idle84818> whats the difference?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> idle84818, ask #vbox for support and details
[04:24] <TravisTheNavi> daftykins, Since you were so helpful with my last problem, I have another one for you if you wouldn't mind.
[04:25] <daftykins> i'm going to bed, i'm sure someone else can help.
[04:25] <TravisTheNavi> I have obtained a Windows 7 All-In-One .iso and want to set up my laptop to dual boot both Windows 7 and Linux.
[04:26] <Bashing-om> tats: One more time ( with feeling) ' apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa ' .
[04:26] <TravisTheNavi> Can someone please help me? Right now I just need to write the iso to my usb.
[04:26]  * nicekiwi smells piracy.. 
[04:27] <wileee> TravisTheNavi, Doing this in ubuntu?
[04:27] <daftykins> i agree with nicekiwi
[04:27] <daftykins> sounds like a shifty copy to me.
[04:28] <TravisTheNavi> wileee, Yes sir.
[04:28] <nicekiwi> had a brush with the East-India Trading Company did we TravisTheNavi ?
[04:28] <wileee> there all shifty it's MS, that was a joke
[04:29] <daftykins> XD
[04:29] <TravisTheNavi> Wow, nicekiwi is smart!
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | TravisTheNavi
[04:29] <TravisTheNavi> But no, it wasn't piracy, at least to my knowledge.
[04:29] <wileee> TravisTheNavi, Go to playonlinux, and there are a number of usb loader for linux that will okay the W7.
[04:30] <TravisTheNavi> I was given the file, by a friend.
[04:30]  * nicekiwi girgles 
[04:30] <nicekiwi> arrrrr, he has a crew!
[04:30] <tats> Bashing-om, https://paste.ee/p/nSrBW
[04:30] <wileee> nicekiwi, Do you have a valid point, provable?
[04:30] <Bashing-om> tats: https://paste.ee/p/nSrBW .
[04:31] <idle84818> if a pc has windows7 installed + ubuntu and another os is going to be installed will it automatically add to grub(assuming grub is current bootloader)?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> TravisTheNavi, LOL.  sorry, m8.  we're not about to help you pirate.
[04:31] <cfhowlett> idle84818, another OS will rewrite it's own bootloader.  better perhaps to NOT install a new boot loader.  update grub after you install.
[04:32] <nicekiwi> wileee, could be innocent. could also say the same of Ubuntu including MP3 codecs without paying for them.. cant prove it.. but I can look irksome
[04:32] <idle84818> so install new OS, completly leave current bootloader and just use update-grub on the partition in which main linux os is instaleld?
[04:32] <wileee> TravisTheNavi, All in one meaning 32 64 bit or with a key, I think is the point here.
[04:32] <idle84818> installed*, and that will place the option to boot the new os in grub?
[04:32] <Bashing-om> tats: Try and install ' sudo apt-get install libgles2-mesa ' . let's see where we go from here .
[04:33] <TravisTheNavi> With a key.
[04:33] <wileee> nicekiwi, cept the mp3 developer does not care, you are trolling.
[04:33] <cfhowlett> idle84818, correct
[04:33] <TravisTheNavi> I believe. I don't know. Honestly, I pirated the .iso. I won't lie.
[04:33] <idle84818> thanks for that :)
[04:33] <wileee> TravisTheNavi, If a legit key it's legeal one can build one, if not I would not use it is all.
[04:33] <tats> Bashing-om, says "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgles2-mesa : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 10.5.2-0ubuntu1) but 10.5.9-2ubuntu1~vivid1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !piracy | traviscline
[04:33] <wileee> legl*
[04:33] <nicekiwi> wileee, :P HBO dosent care either, but John Snpow still knows nothing..
[04:33] <TravisTheNavi> How can I tell?
[04:34] <TravisTheNavi> If the key is legit?
[04:34] <nicekiwi> generally if you didnt buy it yourself or if theres no holographic licence, its not legit
[04:34] <cfhowlett> TravisTheNavi, it's not.
[04:34] <TravisTheNavi> Can I purchase Windows 7, and how much would it cost?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> traviscline, ask ##windows
[04:35] <nicekiwi> you might find it around the internet, but I dont think MS sell it anymore.
[04:35] <idle84818> could setting up iptables manually conflict with a frontend to iptables/ufw?
[04:35] <nicekiwi> idle84818, shouldent do.
[04:36] <TravisTheNavi> I don't have a disk drive.
[04:36] <TravisTheNavi> So I need an online download.
[04:36] <cfhowlett> TravisTheNavi, again: this is NOT an ubuntu issue.  go to microsoft for your MS needs.  you're completely off-topic here.  and we don't support piracty
[04:36] <cfhowlett> *piracy*
[04:38] <Bashing-om> tats: Well that jogs my memory, back where we were a couple of hours aga, the versions of libglapi-mesa and libgles2-mesa must match and they presently do not. The correct version for vivid is " 10.5.2-0ubuntu1 (vivid) "
[04:39] <Bashing-om> tats: so the question is how do we get rid of libglapi-mesa 10.5.9-2ubuntu1~ . ' apt-cache policy libglapi-mesa ' . See if we can find the source .
[04:43] <idle84818> are all system executeables in linux in the format of ELF?
[04:43] <idle84818> i mean all
[04:44] <tats> Bashing-om, https://paste.ee/p/FGMYh
[04:47] <Bashing-om> tats: https://paste.ee/p/FGMYh
[04:53] <nobunga> good evening all
[04:54] <nobunga> i am having a b!tch of a time getting tor to run
[04:54] <nobunga> tor browser that is
[04:54] <nobunga> it keeps ccrashing
[04:55] <nobunga> anyone know of a stable versin?
[04:55] <nobunga> version*
[04:56] <Bashing-om> tats: Kinda scared to mess with libglapi-mesa ; as the reverse depends is the Xserver it's self . Try'n to think what we can do .
[04:59] <SolarNRG> how do I disable the stupid screensaver that keeps locking me out of my own machine every 5 seconds?
[05:05] <Bashing-om> tats: Got a thought ! Anything strange comes up ' dpkg -L libglapi-mesa ' ? Maybe point us to what installed that elevated version ??
[05:05] <TravisTheNavi> I downloaded an executable file from this website: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media
[05:05] <TravisTheNavi> How do I run it?
[05:06] <TravisTheNavi> I'm trying to get Windows 8.1 back on my computer without having to buy Windows 10, since 8.1 came by default on my laptop (I erased it from my HDD altogether)
[05:07] <tats> Bashing-om, dpkg-query: package 'libglapi-mes' is not installed
[05:10] <eipi1> anyone have an idea of a "good looking"  file manager?
[05:11] <nicekiwi> eipi1, dolphin or pantheon-files
[05:11] <eipi1> ya know, one for tards and not geeks.
[05:11] <wafflejock> eipi1: that's going to be very subjective, how do you expect it to look good?
[05:11] <wafflejock> eipi1: what are you using now what don't you like about it or what are you wanting to see?
[05:12] <nicekiwi> nautilus looks pretty good too :P but not on Ubuntu
[05:12] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: good ol' chicken and egg
[05:12] <eipi1> yeah, like dolphin.....but dolphin wants 120mb
[05:13] <wafflejock> I'm not too picky  on the file explorers I like em all that I've really used so far, nautilus, nemo, dolphin all good, haven't used thunar
[05:13] <eipi1> something simple, waffle...that looks good to me.  I see there a bunch of dual-pane managers, but I think they are for ppl like you guys.
[05:13] <wafflejock> hah yeah I do like nemo for that :)
[05:13] <eipi1> pantheon, huh?
[05:14] <nicekiwi> yeah, though beter to move entirely to elementaryOS if you have this kinda mindset :P
[05:16] <Bashing-om> tats: Huh .. Stranger and stranger as we know " sudo apt-cache policy libglapi-mesa >> Installed: 10.5.9-2ubuntu1~vivid1 " . I may have to pull off this . I have been on this keyboard for 12 hours and I am getting a burn out . Pick this up again after a nights sleep on it ??
[05:17] <Bashing-om> tats: Make sure that your last was not a typo .
[05:18] <haxor_> hello
[05:18] <eipi1> yeah, elementary OS file manager looks great.  thanks a lot.
[05:18] <haxor_> can any1 hear me ?
[05:18] <eipi1> lol
[05:18] <eipi1> just nod if you can hear me
[05:18] <eipi1> is there anyone home
[05:19] <nicekiwi> haxor_, hurro
[05:19] <haxor_> hi nicekiwi
[05:19] <nicekiwi> ^_^
[05:19] <tats> Bashing-om, no shit it *was* a typo. here's the real thing after  dpkg -L libglapi-mesa: https://paste.ee/p/UcdHD
[05:19] <haxor_> from where u belong
[05:20] <haxor_> i need sm help
[05:20] <nicekiwi> haxor_, ask away
[05:20] <Bashing-om> tats: Look'n at https://paste.ee/p/UcdHD .
[05:21] <haxor_> i change my hostname of system..i want to get it back...any option?
[05:22] <eipi1> later
[05:22] <nicekiwi> haxor_, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[05:22] <rommac100> Hello
[05:23] <Bashing-om> tats: Well, no hints there either, looks standard to a default system install . I am stuck presently on a way to move forward with this. back to pondering .
[05:24] <haxor_> thnx nicekiwi..i wl look it
[05:25] <tats> Bashing-om, sure, thanks a lot. i'll sleep on this. worst case scenario I will reinstall ubuntu from scratch.
[05:29] <Bashing-om> tats: That is the nuclear solution, entails a lot of work to rebuild what you now have . There must be a beter way . It is just some libraries we need to replace with the correct version.
[05:36] <the_upgrade> servlist
[05:38] <Bashing-om> tats: Nothing else is coming to me . I am calling it a night and see ya tomorrow . See what comes in our sleep .
[05:40] <tats> Bashing-om, all right. thanks again :)
[05:40] <Redria> o/
[05:41] <SolarNRG> sorry dudes but firefox sux donkey ballz how do i get iceweasel on this thing?
[05:41] <SolarNRG> i tried apt-get remove firefox then apt-get install iceweasel but that didnt work
[05:41] <Redria> Is this the correct channel to be in if one needs help with
[05:41] <Redria> MySQL and Ubuntu?
[05:41] <SolarNRG> firefox comes as standard with ubuntu
[05:41] <wileee> SolarNRG, worldwide family channel, can we curb the colorful descriptions
[05:42] <SolarNRG> sorry
[05:42] <SolarNRG> but it's goes chuggy on youtube and it wont let u copy paste after u close it down and its got known security vulnerabilities
[05:42] <SolarNRG> so i want it off my system and i want iceweasel instead how do i do that?
[05:42] <somsip> Redria: just ask the question. If it's too specialised, #mysql may be better. depends.
[05:43] <wileee> SolarisBoy, relax, we see your needs, a customer free volunteer will be with you soon.
[05:43] <Redria> somsip: The just of it is that I had a Minecraft server dumped in my lap. The terminal said updates were available, so I got them, installed them, but MySQL now fails to start. I think the installed version is 5.0 but the update is 5.5. I am unsure how to repair it / upgrade it without blowing everything up =D
[05:44] <somsip> Redria: what version of ubuntu, and what version of mysql (run mysql -V)
[05:45] <Redria> somsip:  one moment let me login.
[05:46] <Radix|15> Hia
[05:47] <Redria> somsip: mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.44, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.3
[05:47] <somsip> Redria: so that's 5.5 and that ships with ubuntu 14.04 so it looks like you're running a current version
[05:47] <somsip> Redria: there was a security update for mysql a couple of weeks ago, so maybe it's just offering that
[05:47] <Redria> somsip: Is there a command to get it's running status or if it is currently running?
[05:48] <somsip> Redria: sudo service mysql status
[05:49] <Redria> somsip: mysql stop/waiting
[05:49] <somsip> Redria: so 'sudo service mysql start' should get it going, or will give errors in /var/log/mysql/error.log
[05:50] <Redria> somsip: start: Job failed to start
[05:50] <somsip> Redria: so check the error log referred to above
[05:50] <Redria> somsip: Just navigate to the directory and then pull the log?
[05:51] <somsip> Redria: yeah, or 'tail -f /var/log/mysql/error.log' and do the service...start thing in a different terminal. Or use less or edit it...whatever
[05:53] <Redria> somsip: I am truly clueless, So cd \var\log
[05:53] <Redria> somsip: I am truly clueless, So cd \var\log\mysql\
[05:53] <Redria> ?
[05:54] <somsip> Redria: ok, cd /var/log/mysql. 'less error.log' and look for somethig obvious in the last few lines. If short, paste here. If long use....
[05:54] <somsip> !paste | Redria
[05:54] <npranav> there is a uImage file which contains the kernel which boots the system. how do i modify a file inside this uImage file?
[05:55] <somsip> npranav: something like this? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/113827/how-to-extract-files-from-uimage
[05:55] <Redria> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12053675/
[05:56] <somsip> Redria: InnoDB: Error: space header page consists of zero bytes in data file ./ibdata1
[05:57] <somsip> Redria: it gets messy now. Have a look in /etc/mysql/my.cnf and check for where datadir points to. Usually /var/lib/mysql
[05:57] <Redria> somsip: Am I to run the command /ibdata1
[05:57] <Redria> ?
[05:57] <somsip> Redria: no, it's a data file that looks like it's missing, corrupt or empty
[05:59] <Redria> somsip: so 'less my.cnf' ?
[05:59] <somsip> Redria: yes, looking for 'datadir = /var/lib/mysql'
[05:59] <npranav> somsip: i found it, but did not understand.. thanks time for understanding now.. :)
[05:59] <WardL> Hello. I am having problems with my Broadcom wifi (What a surprise...). I have tried various tutorials, accepted answers on askubuntu, ... - Nothing helps. I am now reading through http://askubuntu.com/questions/459654/drivers-for-broadcom-bcm43142-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr .
[06:00] <WardL> I have problems understanding the accpeted answer, especially the 2nd step.
[06:00] <WardL> It says that he "cross checked the files there with my hard disk installation's version of the same folder. "
[06:00] <Redria> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12053693/ I see it up there.
[06:00] <WardL> Does he mean he checked the files on his hard drive against the files on a live cd?
[06:01] <WardL> If yes: is what he does safe, i.e. removing files that are not present on the live cd?
[06:01] <somsip> Redria: okay, so you now need to do some data recovery so this is getting more mysql than ubuntu. If you search for "InnoDB: Error: space header page consists of zero bytes in data file./ibdata1" you'll get some pointers like http://is.gd/KJIs1J that may help, but I can't walk you through this any further. So #mysql may be able to help more
[06:02] <Redria> somsip: Thank you very very much for the help =D
[06:02] <somsip> Redria: no problem. That one offers a solution, but best to read around the other search results to get an idea of what may be involved. Good luck
[06:03] <nobunga> can i get some help installing a tor broweser
[06:04] <nobunga> browser*
[06:04] <nobunga> please
[06:05] <wileee> nobunga, Install from tor.
[06:05] <nobunga> i did but it wont launch
[06:06] <wileee> nobunga, Not really a supported issue, but unpack and hit the tor icon
[06:06] <nobunga> just says "Tor unexpectedly exited
[06:06] <nobunga> i keep getting a startup screen that says restart tor
[06:07] <nobunga> your right. i should bug ppl in the tor channel
[06:20] <atralheaven_> Hi, I don't want a client who is connected to server with openvpn be able to send spam emails from my vps useing their vpn connection, but I need server to be able to send emails "only to my email" (for some reports about logs etc) what can I do for it?
[06:22] <Hiigaran> somsip: Redria here, name was taken and had to change. MySQL guys aren't active :(
[06:23] <TravisTheNavi> I need a usb writing tool. Any suggestions?
[06:23] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: dd :)
[06:23] <somsip> Hiigaran: well, it's pretty much like in that link I sent you. You may be able to recover the tables, you may not. And the steps to try that are explained in the link/
[06:24] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi:  it's command line but works well for making a bootable USB or otherwise transferring blocks of data from one place to another
[06:24] <TravisTheNavi> I've used dd before, but I forgot how. Last time I had someone walk me through it
[06:24] <TravisTheNavi> I need to make a bootable USB
[06:24] <TJ-> atralheaven_: You'd have to restrict the user from running any process that connects to a remote TCP port 25 (SMTP) or 587 (ESMTPS)
[06:25] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: basics are it has if=input.iso of=/dev/sdX where X is your particular partition you want to move it to then it has bs=4M to tell it to use 4M cache before writing out to disk
[06:26] <TravisTheNavi> so "dd if=input.iso of=/dev/sd1 bs=4M"?
[06:26] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: can use lsblk to see your partitions
[06:26] <TJ-> TravisTheNavi: typically I'd do "sudo dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdZ bs=100M oflag=direct,dsync iflag=fullblock conv=fdatasync,fsync"
[06:26] <Hiigaran> somsip: You had sent me a link? I did not see it, would you mind resending?
[06:26] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: typically sda or sdb or something not sure about sd1
[06:26] <TravisTheNavi> yeah sda my bad lol
[06:26] <TravisTheNavi> TJ-, Thanks, I'll try that
[06:26] <wafflejock> TravisTheNavi: yeah be absolutely sure you have the right drive though
[06:27] <wafflejock> or you're gonna have a bad time
[06:27] <somsip> Hiigaran: http://webdevelopmentscripts.com/23-solved-innodb-error-space-header-page-consists-of-zero-bytes-xampp
[06:27] <TravisTheNavi> I have a live usb of Ubuntu on hand anyway
[06:27] <TravisTheNavi> Just in case things go sour, I can reinstall.
[06:27] <TJ-> TravisTheNavi: all those extra flags make sure the input and output stay in sync (data doesn't just pile up in memory cache) and is flushed to the device correctly
[06:28] <wafflejock> atralheaven_: I'm not familiar with the details on this but can maybe configure iptables to only allow outgoing to your mail server on SMTP and restrict your mail server so it doesn't allow any outbound anonymous SMTP (probably already configured)
[06:28] <TJ-> TravisTheNavi: Id you want a progress meter as well then "cat /path/to/image.iso | pv | sudo dd of=/dev/sdZ bs=100M oflag=direct,dsync iflag=fullblock conv=fdatasync,fsync"
[06:28] <shine_> I found a major bug in ubuntu ...
[06:28] <shine_> what do I do?
[06:29] <TJ-> !bugs | shine
[06:29] <shine_> And it does effect every single computer
[06:29] <wafflejock> shine_: have you explained the issue in ubuntu forums or elsewhere?
[06:30] <shine_> well the package is ubuntu itself - dunno what you call it except a "bug". Maybe "seriously undesirable behavior"? But that is a bug by very definition isn't it?
[06:31] <shine_> When the power button is pressed (not held down, simply pressed and released) a small window containing tiles appears (to shut down, restart or suspend). If this is allowed to time out the computer will shut down - in other words, the action chosen for after the time out is to shut down (as opposed to any other action). If programs are running they will be shut down as a result; and, as a result of this, it is possible that data may be
[06:31] <shine_> lost (at the very least, state is lost). Therefore, it is a "bug". The appropriate (or, desirable) action upon timeout would be for the shutdown to be canceled - thus returning the user to an unaffected state and eliminating the possiblity of data loss.
[06:31] <shine_> That's what I got
[06:31] <wafflejock> shine_: not necessarily what you want isn't what everyone wants
[06:31] <TJ-> shine_: Doesn't affect me ... sounds like something specific to the desktop environment, probably Unity for default installs
[06:32] <wafflejock> shine_: bugs aren't feature requests or improvements or suggestions typically though they do often get filed in the same systme
[06:32] <muppis> I can boot 14.04 to recovery console, but if I continue there it hangs to Starting system logging daemon and it starts print nonsense to console like corrupted (caused by a power failure) init script. Which package I need reinstall to rule that out?
[06:32] <Hiigaran> somsip: Question, is it safe to assume that since MySQL is not currently running that services that are still running do not use MySQL?
[06:32] <wafflejock> shine_: bugs are the system advertises it does XYZ if I give it valid input but it doesn't do it
[06:32] <wafflejock> shine_: or really the original "bug" was a moth in the machine messing up the works
[06:32] <Hiigaran> somsip: And if that is the case, perhaps it would be easier to simply purge it and rebuild it from scratch?
[06:33] <somsip> Hiigaran: no, they will only report an error and software that plays nice should catch that and log it, not crash
[06:33] <shine_> so is it "safer" for everyone to default to the original, unchanged state before the power button was pressed - or to go ahead and shut down?
[06:33] <somsip> Hiigaran: I would usually say a rebuild is a last resort if all else fails. Try to recover first
[06:34] <wafflejock> shine_: worth searching launchpad or using that link above about how to submit issues to see if someone has already posted this and you can add your voice or if it's a new feature request  or change in behavior you believe would benefit all desktop users
[06:34] <wafflejock> er at least a big group
[06:34] <TJ-> shine_: data loss is certainly a bug - if it is the default Ubuntu then report the bug against the "unity" package initially... bug triage will assign it to a more specific if required
[06:34] <wileee> shine_, You have a subjective opinion, like all are, no real data of proof, and really weak rhetoric, nothing supporting it.
[06:35] <rsmarshall> hey all, i cleared up loads of files but the disk says it's still full
[06:35] <rsmarshall> how do i free the space?
[06:35] <wafflejock> TJ-: well it's potential data loss in the case you shut down your system in some particular way it sounds like, still worth noting somewhere if it's not already addressed but doesn't sound like a straight bug perse to me
[06:36] <shine_> I suppose I'm looking at it from a "safety" standpoint. There could be the situation where the person hit the button by accident as well as fails to catch the thing before it times out. In those, rare, cases, it would be safer to no do anything than to proceed with a shutdown. Besides, the guy who really wants to shut down is not harmed by having to push the power button a second time. The guy who didn't want to lose hours worth of work
[06:36] <shine_> is.
[06:36] <wileee> rsmarshall, Do you have a boot partition?
[06:36] <somsip> shine_: which is reasonable to a point. So report it, as suggested.
[06:36] <TJ-> wafflejock: if processes are KILLed if they don't respond to TERM and therefore lose data, that is 100% a bug, if the user hasn't confirmed the shutdown action
[06:36] <wileee> shine_, YOU can assign the button to do nothing.
[06:37] <rsmarshall> wileee erm i guess so, it's a standard ubuntu 14.04 install. A magento site was creating tons of sessions
[06:37] <rsmarshall> I cleared them out and df -h still shows /dev/vda1 full
[06:37] <wileee> rsmarshall, Check how full it is.
[06:37] <matthew> SSS
[06:38] <rsmarshall> it shows /dev/vda1 is 100% even though i cleared all the sessions out
[06:38] <TJ-> rsmarshall: some process still has file descriptors open to those files, so they have been unlinked but not deleted
[06:38] <wileee> rsmarshall, the boot partition is not sessions, persay, it is the boot and kernels
[06:38] <shine_> Yeah, I'll put it out there. I feel pretty strong about it bc it just happened to me. I lost days worth of internet research (opened in tabs, that, no I didn't want to save just yet) as well as a vidoe which place I lost (ie: where in the ounter the vid was). Thank goodness I didn't have libre writer open with work in it (like I did earlier today).
[06:39] <nobunga> what would i type to install the tor browser in terminal?
[06:39] <somsip> shine_: fine, but now you're just clogging the channel up with opinions. Just report it
[06:39] <wileee> !tor | nobunga
[06:39] <rsmarshall> TJ- so reboot?
[06:40] <muppis> I can boot 14.04 to recovery console, but if I continue there it hangs to Starting system logging daemon and it starts print nonsense to console like corrupted (caused by a power failure) init script. Which package I need reinstall to rule that out?
[06:40] <TJ-> rsmarshall: no... identify the process and close / restart it
[06:40] <rsmarshall> wileee yeah but in this case I've cleared a load of magento session files so they must be kept somewhere or the system thinks they are there
[06:40] <rsmarshall> TJ- any idea how i find which one it is?
[06:41] <TJ-> rsmarshall: "sudo ls -l /proc/[1-9]*/fd/ | grep '(deleted)' | grep SOME_FILENAME_YOU_KNOW_HERE"
[06:41] <rsmarshall> it would be sess* for filename i guess
[06:41] <rsmarshall> but it's not finding anything
[06:42] <rsmarshall> ls -la
[06:42] <rsmarshall> oops ;) lol
[06:43] <muppis> rsmarshall, don't put the asterisk at the end if you define partial filename for grep.
[06:43] <TJ-> rsmarshall: try search for part of the path leading to the file(s)
[06:44] <rsmarshall> nothing in either
[06:44] <wileee> rsmarshall, I know nothing about magneto, about 99% of these full HD scenarios are a full boot partition, is why I asked, you have better help than I on this as of now.
[06:44] <rsmarshall> ok thanks wileee
[06:44] <wileee> np
[06:45] <TJ-> rsmarshall: Stop and restart the controlling process is going to release unlinked files.
[06:45] <rsmarshall> TJ- Yeah, it's just finding that.
[06:45] <TJ-> rsmarshall: if you can do that, then re-check with 'df' see if that's helped to begin with. Also, are you sure the files deleted were not zero-length ?
[06:45] <rsmarshall> TJ- not sure, why?
[06:46] <TJ-> rsmarshall: well, if they were they would only use up inodes not space, and therefore deleting them wouldn't free space... which means you'd need to look elsewhere for the culprit
[06:46] <rsmarshall> ah
[06:47] <shine_> Where is the actual, concrete, place to report a bug for "ubuntu" - in particular? Not the how to page, not the main page of the bug reprt site, the actual place where you're gonna start writing one? The don't make it easy - that's for sure.
[06:47] <rsmarshall> I rebooted ;)
[06:47] <rsmarshall> it cleared them lol
[06:47] <rsmarshall> I think the site is getting crawled a lot
[06:47] <rsmarshall> so will have to check access logs
[06:49] <TJ-> shine_: From the PC: "ubuntu-bug <package-name>"
[06:50] <shine_> TJ-: There is no internet site? Cause this does not involve any specific package. It has to do with the o/s
[06:50] <wafflejock> shine_ in the reporting page they have a section Filing a general bug against no particular package
[06:50] <wafflejock> just leave off the package name
[06:50] <TJ-> shine_: Alternative, the "Report a Bug" link at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/  (top-right of page)
[06:50] <wafflejock> you should get some prompts to fill in
[06:51] <shine_> So are we talking about issuing this in a terminal?
[06:51] <TJ-> shine_: I've already told you, if you're using default Ubuntu it is the "unity" package. It oes *not* affect the entire operating system
[06:51] <shine_> TJ-: perfect. ty
[06:52] <TJ-> shine_: it doesn't affect my PCs with KDE, it doesn't affect any of my servers
[06:52] <rsmarshall> so how would i have the inodes cleared up when files are deleted?
[06:52] <rsmarshall> as there is a deletion cron that runs to clear old sessions, but if some are 0 byte files, that must be the issue
[06:53] <TJ-> rsmarshall: Linux doesn't delete space or inodes allocated to files until the last process with a file descriptor to the file closes.
[06:53] <shine_> TJ-: and that brings me to the "how to report a bug" howto wich is the reason I asked the question here (so I could do this and get it over wtih).
[06:53] <rsmarshall> TJ- ah ok, i'll have to look into what process that is
[06:53] <shine_> it's ok man. just tired. I can figure it out. just didn't expect to go through hurdles over it
[06:54] <shine_> (not you "hurdles" the system in place "hurdles")
[06:55] <TJ-> shine_: That page has the section "Reporting non-crash hardware and desktop application bugs" which clearly shows using "ubuntu-bug".. it also has a section "Filing a general bug against no particular package"
[06:56] <wafflejock> shine yeah just running ubuntu-bug seems the easiest way, since it is localized to unity you could point it at unity package as well, you'll have to register on launchpad to actually submit but they don't want to have a flurry of anonymous reports I'm sure
[06:56] <wafflejock> shine_: after using ubuntu_bug and signing in it has a few extra questions to describe the scenario
[06:56] <wafflejock> ubuntu-bug*
[06:56] <shine_> wafflejock: in a terminal?
[06:57] <wafflejock> shine_: yeah that works
[06:57] <shine_> kk
[06:58] <TJ-> shine_: what version of Ubuntu are you using? Because I've just found a bug reporting the exact *opposite* of what you're complaining about
[06:58] <TJ-> bug #1256703
[06:59] <shine_> Says I need to specify a package then closes. There is not package (not that I have the ability, time, or patience to understand) that's involved here
[06:59] <TJ-> shine_: How many times do I have to tell you!? The package is "unity"
[07:00] <shine_> It's when I select "other" that this happens <--- that's another "bug" and in the but reporting system (ironic)
[07:02] <Dfg_> Hi I am trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 desktop from USB. But stuck with login screen. After entering username as ubuntu and password as blank it comes back to the login screen.
[07:04] <Dfg_> Pls anybody help. Stuck with live USB login screen loop.
[07:04] <shine_> what a mess: ubuntu-bug unity ... launches apport, which does some "collecting" (irrelevant in my case) then asks a question about graphics, I say "no" then it configs some predetermined stuff to "send", I "send" and it launches a blank browser window that never goes anywhere.
[07:04] <shine_> seriously?
[07:04] <wafflejock> Dfg_: pretty sure you need to have a password you can choose automatic login though, personally I don't do that since I just leave my keyring without a password and use my regular password to unlock the system
[07:05] <wafflejock> shine_: works here when it launches the browser brought me to launchpad to get the rest of the details
[07:05] <shine_> I'm on launchpad and logged in but can not identify a link to "report" a bug
[07:05] <TJ-> Dfg_: are you talking about whilst using the Desktop Live ISO and "Try Ubuntu", or after the installed system boots?
[07:05] <wafflejock> shine_: also not having any idea about your system hardware or software configuration makes reproducing most issues very difficult so the scan first makes sense for 99% of people using this tool, less for them to do themselves
[07:05] <Dfg_> @wafflejock this is live USB.
[07:06] <shine_> maybe it doesn't like chrome. Idk. I got replaced firefox w/ chrom when flash stopped working and became a security issue. Chasing my tail here.
[07:06] <wafflejock> Dfg_: ah okay I misunderstood
[07:06] <Dfg_> @wafflejock why shud we need password for live USB??
[07:06] <TJ-> Dfg_: "Try Ubuntu' should never give a log-in screen, it logs in automatically as the "ubuntu" user
[07:06] <wafflejock> Dfg_:  using chrome as my primary here too
[07:06] <Dfg_> @TJ try ubuntu
[07:06] <shine_> wafflejock: Oh, I get it. Just is a different sitch for me. That stuff would truly be irrelevant for what I'm delaing with.
[07:07] <TJ-> Dfg_: Sounds like possible corruption on the USB... did you check the hash to ensure the image isn't corrupted?
[07:08] <shine_> however they have the server set up its : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[07:08] <Dfg_> @TJ-  I chose try Ubuntu option
[07:08] <shine_> back to the stinkin howto - grrrrrr!
[07:08] <theJian> Is there any good IRC client worth trying?
[07:08] <wafflejock> shine_: yup, with regard to after you're in I think they must have disabled launchpads regular ability to just submit bugs since they probably get a lot that don't include system details if they don't force people through the ubuntu-bug program, not sure what the issue is when it launches the blank window though that's a huge bummer
[07:08] <TJ-> shine_: the information collected locally is very important, since the behaviour you describe is *not* the default and therefore is probably induced by some other packages or custom configuration. Without collecting additional information the bug won't have enough information to act on
[07:10] <shine_> well, stuff like this forces good people to not do the right thing (report the bug) when it becomes too much of a burden. Then other's may be effected longer.
[07:10] <TJ-> Dfg_: When the USB image boot's there is usually an option to "check image" ( or CD?) - I'd suggest doing that to be sure the image on the USB appears to be valid
[07:10] <Dfg_> Ubuntu live USB login loop. Any help??
[07:10] <ikonia> repeating the same thing over doesn't help
[07:10] <ikonia> so please stop
[07:11] <shine_> What's the developer channel? maybe they can advise me base on my particular case. Otherwise it's post on ask ubuntu or in the forum which I don't feel would be right or effective.
[07:12] <shine_> I'm not asking a question here - I'm making a statement. "Here's what happense in a particular situation and it ought not to be"
[07:13] <ikonia> the developer channel is not for support
[07:13] <ikonia> logging the bug is the correct way to communicate the problem to the development teams
[07:13] <theJian> Which irc clients you guys use? I need recommanded. thx.
[07:13] <wafflejock> shine_: well phrased as a question I do A, B, C I expect my system to do Y but it does Z, why would this be? or is there a way to fix this behavior? is this the default behavior and if so why?
[07:15] <wafflejock> theJian: no polling in here try #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support conversation (on a sidenote hexchat or pidgin work well)
[07:15] <TJ-> shine_: which release of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:16] <theJian> wafflejock: Thx
[07:19] <TJ-> Comment #3 in this thread suggests the timed-out shutdown behaviour was the default in 12.04 Precise, but subsequently that default was changed for 13.04 onwards from what I've read. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2020630.  A system upgraded from 12.04 to later versions may inherit the setting in the user's configuration
[07:32] <TJ-> Hmmm, I knew I had a question this morning! Xorg server - how to execute a command when the X server starts (already got it working via /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ but that only runs when a user logs in. I need the process to run as soon as the X server starts, when the greeter is up, but *not* require a specific DM (as in, not specific to lightdm)
[07:38] <Sporter> Hello, after I install Ubuntu I get the black screen problem. I googled and was able to boot after editing something in the grub menu but the resolution is low and stretched. What else do I need to edit so that the resolution will be right? thx
[07:39] <Mathisen> Sporter what graphic card do you have ?
[07:39] <Sporter> ati...
[07:39] <Sporter> radio hd 6480g
[07:39] <Sporter> *radeon
[07:40] <Guest5445> have anybody in here
[07:40] <gott3rfunk3n83> have somebody
[07:40] <gott3rfunk3n83> Guest5445
[07:41] <Mathisen> Sporter maybe this works 1. sudo apt-get purge 'fglrx*  2. sudo update-alternatives --remove-all x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf   3. sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
[07:42] <asteriskATmarmuD> I'm looking for a service to list the contents of a directory at least with mtime (size would be nice) - any hints, I'd like to safe some time and not start from scratch
[07:44] <gott3rfunk3n83> ls
[07:44] <asteriskATmarmuD> gott3rfunk3n83: I need a service listening for connections, perhaps on a local socket. need to trigger that via a webservice (shich has not the sufficient rights to ll anything)
[07:44] <Sporter> I'll try that and will come back
[07:45] <akik> oh snap. shine_ left
[07:46] <akik> i maybe found a solution to his problem: /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn
[07:47] <TJ-> akik: it's more sophisticated that that; there's user config values that control behaviour of the dialog, but it depends on Ubuntu release, which that user wouldn't share with us
[07:47] <gott3rfunk3n83> Something on a remote pc?
[07:47] <gott3rfunk3n83> ssh?
[07:48] <gott3rfunk3n83> Ubuntu desktop sharing
[07:49] <TJ-> asteriskATmarmuD: isn't that what apache's mod_autoindex does?
[07:53] <rethus> In which package is opensnoop ?
[07:56] <TJ-> rethus: That's an OS X application
[07:57] <wileee> rethus, THe name and ubuntu on the web has info
[07:59] <TJ-> rethus: On Linux you could use inotify or "strace -e trace=file"
[08:00] <Sporter> I'm back, who was the one who told me to reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx ??
[08:01] <rethus> TJ: thank you
[08:01] <TJ-> rethus: for command-line, there's tools like inotfywatch and inotifywait
[08:01] <Sporter> His name started with M but I don't remember who it was
[08:02] <Alina-malina> i dont understand guys who login to IRC with 2 nicknames from same ip address at the same time? This guy of bomberman logs in under bomberman and bomberman_ nicknames and abusing me from time to time, some crazy russian, beware.
[08:03] <wileee> Alina-malina, having at least two has you still logged in on a saved name, not a generic
[08:04] <wileee> anyone can be blocked, and your pm as well
[08:05] <Mathisen> Sporter
[08:05] <Alina-malina> wileee, yes, but when the one is abusing like under diff. nicknames like this bomberman, bomberman_, bomberman2,...... this is annoying
[08:06] <Sporter> Mathisen, that command warns be 55 pkgs will be removed. Is it safe to continue? (I haven't pressed enter yet)
[08:06] <Sporter> *warns me
[08:06] <wileee> Alina-malina, Sure, I'm sorry to see this happen, but it is the net and irc, and you have tools.
[08:07] <Mathisen> Sporter it should be safe yes
[08:07] <Alina-malina> wileee, yes i already report abuse on his ip address
[08:07] <Alina-malina> wileee, well i am telling this here, becase he is resident of this channel
[08:08] <wileee> never seen them, there are 1679 people idling
[08:08] <wileee> any way best of luck it's sounds like a bummer
[08:09] <Sporter> Mathisen, in case this doesn't work, I'll still be able to boot using nomodeset option, RIGHT?
[08:12] <Mathisen> Sporter you should be able to boot yes, but if something goes realy wrong you will need to reinstall drivers
[08:12] <Mathisen> Sporter you can folow this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[08:13] <Sporter> Mathisen, that works, but brings about other problems like not being able to adjust brightness, ramdom brightness changes and so on, which I think are worse because I use the computer in a dark room. That's why I'm trying to fix this without installing the amd drivers
[08:15] <Mathisen> Sporter System Settings->Brightness and Lock
[08:15] <julianhernal> hi
[08:15] <Mathisen> if you are in a gui that it is
[08:15] <Sporter> I'll restart now
[08:20] <Sporter> ok, I didn't work. I got the same blackscreen. I'm again in nomodeset option but this time I have another problem. I Can't Move the Mouse.
[08:20] <Sporter> *it didn't
[08:22] <Sporter> I'm using hexchat. How do I scroll up/down to see previous messages without using the mouse?
[08:22] <wileee> Sporter, You might do a reboot, may just be a fluke.
[08:22] <al2o3-cr> Sporter: page up/page down
[08:22] <Sporter> I just rebooted wileee
[08:23] <Sporter> al2o3-cr, doesn't work
[08:23] <wileee> Sporter, Twice?
[08:23] <Sporter> wileee, ok let's restart again...
[08:25] <Sporter> Rebooted and I still can't move the mouse
[08:31] <Sporter> Mathisen, is there anyway to revert what we did so that I can at least move the mouse again?
[08:32] <Mathisen> Sporter sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[08:32] <Sporter> that will install the ati ddriver, but will it restore my mouse?
[08:33] <Mathisen> Sporter to be honest i dont understand why your mouse stoped working :(
[08:34] <Sporter> ok I'll install the driver and reboot
[08:39] <georgi> I'm create very good encrypt software.Where I sell it?
[08:40] <Sporter> I was able to boot normally and screen res is ok, but still can't move the mouse. Any ideas?
[08:45] <jojome> clear
[08:47] <zaggynl> I'm getting these odd ata messages in dmesg, is my SSD dying? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=f7B3tJVG
[08:49] <blaman2> yup
[08:50] <TJ-> zaggynl: possibly. "ata4.00: configured for PIO4" suggests the controller can't select UDMA mode ... check cables, check SMART report
[08:50] <jose__> hi
[08:50] <zaggynl> thanks TJ-
[08:52] <zaggynl> MART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[08:52] <zaggynl> cabling hasn't changed
[08:52] <zaggynl> might be a bit dusty
[08:52] <TJ-> zaggynl: has anything changed recently on that PC, hardware-wise? Has it been knocked/dropped/kicked ?
[08:53] <zaggynl> TJ-: not that I'm aware of
[08:53] <zaggynl> I
[08:53] <TJ-> zaggynl: always worth blowing out the dust and reseating connectors when this kind of thing happens... could be condensation/dust on some contacts... reseating will usually create better contact again
[08:53] <zaggynl> I'll leave a post at crucial forum thread of this SSD
[08:54] <zaggynl> and a good cleaning never hurts
[08:54] <x4w3> zaggynl:  change your sata port in motherboard
[08:56] <x4w3> your sdd is using ata like slow hardrive, maybe you need to change your udev rules
[08:56] <TJ-> zaggynl:  I've seen this kind of issue when the motherboard's firmware/BIOS settings get reset/changed by glitches, and adopt random/default values.. check the controller is enabled for AHCI for example (('d assume all SSDs use AHCI now)
[08:56] <x4w3> and restart initfs
[08:56] <zaggynl> thanks, will put it on my todo list when I get home
[08:56] <x4w3> and check bios for ur sata :P
[08:57] <x4w3> todo list? :P
[08:57] <zaggynl> im at work, remoted to home pc
[08:57] <x4w3> are u spanish¿?
[08:58] <zaggynl> no im dutch
[09:04] <oal> I bought a 3TB disk and partitioned 1TB for Windows and 2TB ntfs for file storage. Now that I try to open the 2TB partition in the file manger in Ubuntu, I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/BpAioaa.png
[09:04] <oal> I did a normal shutdown from Windows. No hibernation or anything
[09:06] <zaggynl> oal: try a chkdsk from windows, shutdown and then try opening in ubuntu file manager again
[09:07] <TJ-> oal: If Windows is set to fastboot, then it only hibernates when its shutdown, which causes problems since the file-system wasn't left in a consistent state.
[09:09] <monkwitdafunk> ubuntu 14.04.2 is not compatable with my 2008 amibios hardware
[09:09] <monkwitdafunk> precise was such a joy to have
[09:09] <zaggynl> what about ubuntu 14.04.3?
[09:10] <monkwitdafunk> where is the ubuntu hardware recommendations?
[09:11] <zhangbad> hi
[09:11] <DDR> Hello, all. I recently hosed my grub installation (rhymes with "wren"), and after reinstallation I am having trouble entering the passphrase for cryptswap1.
[09:12] <DDR> in /etc/default/grub, when GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash", I get a graphical prompt during boot - but I can't enter any text in it! The keyboard is still responsive, since I can ctrl-alt-f1 and such.
[09:13] <TJ-> DDR: there is no passphrase for cryptswap, it is generated at random each start
[09:13] <DDR> So, I set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet", but now it doesn't ask me for a passphrase - it just stops with a message along the lines of 'starting crypto service...'
[09:13] <DDR> The blue dots keep moving on the loading screen, but it never starts the service and never boots.
[09:14] <DDR> Booting into recovery mode bypasses the prompt alltogether, and seems to work fine, but it's such a hacky solution.
[09:14] <TJ-> DDR: "/etc/crypttab" usually contains something similar to this, pointing to the device being used for swap: "cryptswap1 /dev/sda4 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256"
[09:15] <DDR> Indeed, TJ-, it does.
[09:15] <TJ-> DDR:  You'll get a lot more detail if you boot the regular desktop entry with "text debug" and remove "quiet splash" - you'll get a text-mode start (no GUI) as a regular user, with all the kernel/startup messages displayed.
[09:16] <DDR> I'll give it a shot. brb
[09:19] <oal> zaggynl, TJ-, I'll try that. Thank you!
[09:20] <zaggynl> I have win10 on dual boot and only noticed this when I didn't do a normal shut down, not sure about win8
[09:21] <abb0> anyone around at this hour?
[09:22] <zaggynl> abb0: this hour? it's morning here
[09:22] <abb0> The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[09:22] <abb0> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[09:22] <abb0> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not permitted
[09:22] <abb0> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[09:22] <baizon> !ask | abb0
[09:22] <abb0> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[09:22] <abb0> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[09:23] <zaggynl> hey we just had someone ask that too
[09:23] <zaggynl> What windows version are you on abb0 ?
[09:23] <k1l> turn off the windows "spped up reboot" option to make it unmount the ntfs partitions properly
[09:23] <abb0> sorry didnt realize it'd not paste on one line
[09:24] <abb0> but im not on windows anymore atm
[09:24] <abb0> lolz
[09:24] <abb0> but i had switched like few weeks ago
[09:24] <abb0> thats a secondary hdd my ssd is my main hdd
[09:24] <k1l> abb0: zaggynl see this first answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145902/unable-to-mount-windows-ntfs-filesystem-due-to-hibernation
[09:24] <abb0> i just couldnt get my hdd mounted and was being helped earlier but got it to spit out that error
[09:25] <abb0> okie i will ty
[09:25] <k1l> abb0: you can force the mount but it is possible data loss and will be the same issue again after you booted to windows. so turn off the windows fast reboot thing for that disk inside windows
[09:26] <k1l> http://itsfoss.com/solve-ntfs-mount-problem-ubuntu-windows-8-dual-boot/
[09:28] <DDR> TJ-: Verbose text didn't work, although it was very verbose. Here is the output. http://70.79.45.137/IMG_20150811_021836.jpg
[09:30] <abb0> so ill have to install windows to fix it seems like eh
[09:30] <abb0> lol
[09:31] <DDR> http://70.79.45.137/IMG_20150811_021836-small.jpg might be easier loaded.
[09:31] <k1l> abb0: no, you can fix that like said in the answer. its just that windows would undo the fix if it would get booted again
[09:31] <TJ-> DDR: I was about to say!
[09:31] <zaggynl> thanks k1l
[09:32] <TJ-> DDR: depending on where the boot fails, it may have saved to /var/log/boot.log and /var/log/dmesg respectively - needs a writeable rootfs mount for that
[09:33] <TJ-> DDR: I see you have systemd there... so binary logs, so you'll need to use the systemd tooling to re-textify them
[09:34] <DDR> All I have is "Starting Cryptography Setup for cryptswap1..." and then a bunch of seemingly-unrelated stuff after that which goes away if I tap the arrow keys twice.
[09:35] <sufiyaan> #ubuntu
[09:35] <sufiyaan> anybody here
[09:35] <DDR> OK. It's getting late, so I'll have to do that next week.
[09:35] <TJ-> DDR: the last message is networking.service ... could the network be stuck waiting?
[09:36] <sufiyaan> need little help.. any experts
[09:36] <DDR> It's possible, but unlikely. I think it's an out-of-sync message.
[09:36] <k1l> !details | sufiyaan
[09:36] <DDR> It goes away if I toggle between that and the loader with my arrow keys.
[09:36] <DDR> Uh, between 'text' and 'splash screen' loader with my arrow keys.
[09:37] <k1l> sufiyaan: keep it in here please
[09:37] <sufiyaan> ok
[09:37] <sufiyaan> i am kinda new so
[09:38] <sufiyaan> whats pastebin
[09:38] <k1l> !paste | sufiyaan
[09:38] <misho_> how can i change charset to 1251 Cyrillic here in hexchat
[09:39] <oal> TJ-, thank you, disabling fast boot in Windows worked. Now I can access my 2TB partition from Ubuntu!
[09:40] <abb0> k1l: what would YOU do if in my shoes, install windows to disable the feature or just use ntfsfix lolz, i respect that it will be your personal opinion and not advice. :)
[09:40] <abb0> im sitting here mad i didnt dual boot from the start just to ensure i had zer0 issues
[09:40] <k1l> abb0: use the fix without the need to reinstall windows
[09:43] <DDR> abb0: If it's any consolation, I installed windows 10 and broke grub.
[09:45] <IceBot3000> Might want to think twice before using Windows 10, it doesn't respect privacy in regards to searching etc. A lot of changes are designed to capture user data.
[09:45] <DDR> I know. I'm only using it to run a few games I can't emulate on linux.
[09:46] <DDR> I also disabled a lot of the capture on 10, but I expect "not all".
[09:47] <IceBot3000> It's been found to send traffic to Microsoft even with privacy options switched on
[09:47] <DDR> Yeah. I don't trust it.
[09:47] <IceBot3000> See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10037753
[09:48] <ikonia> not really interesting in your microsoft discussion in this channel please
[09:48] <ikonia> ##windows would probably be better for that discussion
[09:48] <IceBot3000> It's the way Operating Systems are going, the consumer is the product :(
[09:48] <IceBot3000> ikonia: Thanks for your input...
[09:48] <sufiyaan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12054552/
[09:49] <sufiyaan> guys i need help here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12054552/
[09:52] <wiredfool> I'm running xubuntu 14.04lts on a laptop, using setxkbmap to remap control to caps. Everytime I plugin or remove a usb hid device, like an external keyboard or yubikey, the keyboard loses my control mapping. I'm trying to use the udev system to run the command on any ID_KEYBOARD event, but it looks like it's running in the root context, not in the xserver user's context
[09:53] <EriC^^> maybe have it run a script as your user
[09:54] <EriC^^> that checks if x is running and then runs setxkbmap
[09:54] <wiredfool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12054580/
[09:54] <k1l> sufiyaan: use "gparted", its a gui program. then choose the sdb(the usb hdd) in the right handside and then start with making a new partitiontable.
[09:54] <kes0> sufiyaan: Have you remove all partitions on the tisk?
[09:55] <kes0> disk
[09:55] <sufiyaan> ya
[09:55] <kes0> Yea start there =P
[09:55] <sufiyaan> i there is no partition it says
[09:55] <wiredfool> EriC^^: how can I find if my user is on the console?
[09:56] <sufiyaan> when i try to create partition i get input output error
[09:56] <wiredfool> or maybe just set the DISPLAY to :0.0 and if it works it works
[09:57] <EriC^^> you could do if pgrep X; then <command> fi
[09:57] <EriC^^> DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option -option 'ctrl:nocaps' -option 'altwin:left_meta_win'
[09:57] <minimec> sufiyaan: k1l has the firght idea: Choose the harddisk in gparted and ">Device>Create Partition Table..." in the menu. You'll get a new empty partition table. then start to create new partitions.
[09:59] <EriC^^> wiredfool: try to run it as the user, su <user> - DISPLAY=:0 .....
[09:59] <wiredfool> maybe set XAUTHORITY too
[10:01] <sufiyaan_> sorry got disconnected..
[10:01] <abb0> ikonia: idc.
[10:01] <sufiyaan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12054552/
[10:02] <minimec> sufiyaan: k1l has the firght idea: Choose the harddisk in gparted and ">Device>Create Partition Table..." in the menu. You'll get a new empty partition table. then start to create new partitions.
[10:03] <wiredfool> \O/
[10:03] <wiredfool> thanks EriC^^. working now
[10:04] <ikonia> abb0: ?
[10:07] <wiredfool> ok, maybe rejoiced too fast
[10:29] <LordDragon> hey all. any way to change scrolling speed? i am reading up on xinput, but none of the parameters im changing have any effect
[10:31] <EriC^^> LordDragon: type xinput list-props 14
[10:31] <EriC^^> and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <EriC^^> 14 or whatever name your touchpad has
[10:33] <LordDragon> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12054733/
[10:33] <EriC^^> LordDragon: on mine changing the scrolling distance changes it
[10:34] <LordDragon> hmm ok. why are there 3 values? which do i change?
[10:34] <EriC^^> i dont know, this is mine Synaptics Scrolling Distance (277):	121, 121
[10:35] <EriC^^> try changing all 3 to 100,100,100
[10:35] <EriC^^> see what happens
[10:36] <EriC^^> did you try changing this? Evdev Wheel Emulation Inertia (293):	10
[10:37] <LordDragon> yes. no effect
[10:40] <LordDragon> its very odd
[10:40] <LordDragon> when i change that scrolling distance parameter, it gets worse
[10:40] <LordDragon> as the numbers go up, the scrolling goes slower and slower until it doesnt move at all
[10:40] <LordDragon> the default is 1, 1, 1
[10:43] <EriC^^> LordDragon: try negative numbers maybe
[10:43] <LordDragon> that switches scrolling direction
[10:44] <EriC^^> does it take a decimal number? worth a shot
[10:46] <LordDragon> nope. it doesnt
[10:49] <BotchlaB> I'm using the following strftime string in Lubuntu 14.04 LTS's panel for the clock, "%a, %e %b %Y, %H:%M:%S %p", however, the AM/PM isn't showing at the end. I thought that is what %p did?
[10:54] <LordDragon> EriC^^: thanks for your help. ill mess with this more later
[10:56] <EriC^^> LordDragon: ok, no problem
[11:00] <Sunny_> Hello. Installed fresh ububtu 15.04. Stuck with login loop. Tried authority, new user etc . Any help would be appreciate.
[11:01] <kwak1> hi all, looking for some help with networking with ubuntu. I have a wifi access point linked to a router via ethernet powerline adapters, need to find the IP of the access point so I can edit its settings. Running 14 LTS but I doubt terminal commands have changed for networking.
[11:02] <EriC^^> Sunny_: type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:03] <BotchlaB> In Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Lubuntu flavor) is there a system-wide setting for AM/PM time format? No matter what I do to the panel, it still keeps showing 13:00 instead of 1:00 PM.
[11:03] <Sunny_> @Eric^^ I got a big file
[11:04] <EriC^^> did you get a link?
[11:05] <Sunny_> @Eric^^ what link??
[11:05] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ are you there??
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> BotchlaB  open dconf-editor, use ctrl-f to find the setting you need
[11:06] <EriC^^> Sunny_: did you type the whole command? with | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[11:06] <BotchlaB> MonkeyDust, let me try.
[11:08] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ http://termbin.com/tqry
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> BotchlaB  maybe lubuntu gconf-editor
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> BotchlaB  maybe lubuntu uses gconf-editor*
[11:08] <BotchlaB> MonkeyDust: Heh, I see. I had to apt-get install the other one, I'll just remove it.
[11:09] <BotchlaB> Great, now I have to find the clock settings.
[11:10] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ did u get it??
[11:10] <EriC^^> Sunny_: type lspci | grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:10] <EriC^^> yes
[11:12] <Sunny_> @EriC^^  hrrp://termbin.com/r6z1
[11:12] <EriC^^> Sunny_: what do you get when you type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[11:13] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ http:// termbin.com/r6z1
[11:13] <EriC^^> try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:14] <dutt> Hi, we're going through some hardware and a server running openssl is running 1.0.1f, which is heartbleed-affected right? but isn't there a newer package for LTS? http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/openssl
[11:14] <k1l> dutt: ubuntu doesnt increase the version number but it patches the "old" versions with the security patches
[11:15] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ driver:amd64-microcode - distro non free
[11:15] <k1l> dutt: so be sure to have all the proper updates installed that come from the official ubuntu repos
[11:16] <Kanpirila_> Does anyone here set their cursor size bigger than normal? does changing the size work for you?
[11:16] <dutt> k1l, aha. thanks
[11:16] <k1l> dutt: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-0160.html
[11:18] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ did u get it
[11:20] <EriC^^> Sunny_: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:20] <mrtakdeniz> hey there
[11:20] <dutt> k1l, ah, thanks. do they backport the security fixes to 1.0.1f or just call 1.0.1g 1.0.1f?
[11:20] <mrtakdeniz> i just want to ask
[11:20] <mrtakdeniz> i'm using webserver on my localhost, (nginx)
[11:21] <mrtakdeniz> i need to set my permission 777 to run my web script, because it needs file permissions
[11:21] <mrtakdeniz> if i set ownership of file www-data, works good
[11:21] <mrtakdeniz> but if i set ownership www-data, i can't edit files
[11:21] <k1l> dutt: it gets backported to the version that is actualy used
[11:21] <mrtakdeniz> and if i set ownership to my username, i can edit, but script can't
[11:21] <mrtakdeniz> what is the correct way to do it?
[11:22] <mrtakdeniz> create a new usergroup ?
[11:22] <IceBot3000> mrtakdeniz: Either add your username to the www-data group, or add a new group with both users in
[11:22] <dutt> k1l, alright. thanks a lot for the help
[11:22] <mrtakdeniz> IceBot3000, if I add my username to www-data , anything broke?
[11:22] <k1l> dutt: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.15/changelog
[11:22] <mrtakdeniz> I mean is it ok to change my user group?
[11:22] <IceBot3000> Your user can be in multiple groups
[11:23] <mrtakdeniz> IceBot3000, usermod?
[11:23] <mrtakdeniz> sudo usermod -a -G group username ok?
[11:24] <IceBot3000> No idea, I just use the GUI
[11:24] <mrtakdeniz> oh, ok :) thanks IceBot3000
[11:25] <mrtakdeniz> and another question
[11:25] <mrtakdeniz> what should i do? chown -R :usergroup or chown -R www-data:usergroup?
[11:26] <Sunny_> @EricC^^ I am unable get the link for this cmd
[11:26] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ I get this on my terminal driver: amd64-microcode - distro non-free
[11:27] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ is it OK??
[11:28] <NetworkingPro> hm everyone
[11:28] <NetworkingPro> *gm
[11:29] <NetworkingPro> err, did it the non linux way
[11:29] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ are you there??
[11:30] <NetworkingPro> s/hm/gm
[11:30]  * NetworkingPro feels pleased with himself.
[11:33] <EriC^^> Sunny_: ok
[11:33] <EriC^^> Sunny_: does it mention anything about fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[11:34] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ No
[11:34] <Kai> Google is dead
[11:35] <Kai> Long live Alphabet
[11:35] <k1l> Kai: that better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat
[11:35] <Kai> kk k1l
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:36] <Kai> hey BluesKaj
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey Kai
[11:40] <Sunny_> @EriC^^ still there??
[11:42] <EriC^^> Sunny_: try sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[11:42]  * RaffOutRoud wonders how much these international texts are costing him.
[11:45] <chrisss123456> hi! i'm trying to run calendar-app on 15.04 but it seems to come up with the following errors: http://pastebin.com/5dv6aD6x and this is just on running it to begin with. no one else seems to have this problem, as far as i know. any help?
[11:51] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ still the same problem. Installed fglrx updates.
[11:52] <EriC^^> Sunny_: did you try to restart?
[11:53] <chrisss123456> anyone use calendar-app? i'm trying to run it on 15.04 but it seems to come up with the following errors: http://pastebin.com/5dv6aD6x and this is just on running it to begin with. no one else seems to have this problem, as far as i know. any help?
[11:53] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ yes of course
[11:54] <EriC^^> Sunny_: ok, type sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[11:56] <jochem_> hey
[11:56] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ yes dine.
[11:59] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ still same problem
[12:01] <EriC^^> Sunny_: try sudo apt-get install fglrx , maybe
[12:02] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ tired already
[12:02] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:03] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ sorry tried
[12:04] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ any other suggestions??
[12:06] <Sunny_> ;EriC^^ it is already installed
[12:06] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-{ati,radeon}
[12:10] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ did that. Still does not work
[12:15] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ still there??
[12:17] <EriC^^> Sunny_: yeah
[12:18] <EriC^^> Sunny_: try cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 999
[12:18] <EriC^^> Sunny_: try cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:19] <TenFingersOfBang> nein nein nein
[12:25] <Sunny_> :EriC^^ cat what??
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Sunny_  simply copy/paste that line in a terminal
[12:28] <jacobzladdr> ubuntu won't boot into grub?
[12:28] <jacobzladdr> i tried holding shift on boot
[12:29] <EriC^^> Sunny_: cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:29] <jacobzladdr> ihave an asus
[12:29] <EriC^^> try esc maybe, if you're using grub1
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> jacobzladdr  try holing esc, if shift doesnt work
[12:29] <jacobzladdr> i put eufi into legacy mode
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  was faster
[12:29] <chrisss123456> anyone use calendar-app? i'm trying to run it on 15.04 but it seems to come up with the following errors: http://pastebin.com/5dv6aD6x and this is just on running it to begin with. no one else seems to have this problem, as far as i know. any help?
[12:30] <jacobzladdr> whne do i press escape
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> jacobzladdr  when the screen says 'no signal' or so
[12:30] <jacobzladdr> on the bios screen
[12:30] <jacobzladdr> ah ok
[12:30] <jacobzladdr> no signal
[12:30] <jacobzladdr> ok
[12:31] <jacobzladdr> ill be right back
[12:32] <MCSH> Hi
[12:33] <MCSH> I have a weird problem, I can't ssh into my vps with the correct login
[12:33] <gotcha> hey MonkeyDust, im still having problems trying to install a package from ubuntu 15 in ubuntu 14.04
[12:33] <gotcha> is it worth upgrading from 14.04 to 15?
[12:33] <MCSH> I'm sure the login is correct because if I use vnc to connect to it, I can log in using the credentials I have, however ssh won't
[12:33] <MCSH> any ideas?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  remind me, what was the issue?
[12:35] <gotcha> MonkeyDust, Redmine from ubuntu 14.04 packages is old, version 2.5.x, ubuntu 15 has the latest Redmine package 3.x
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  yes, i remember the backports... if redmine is important enough for you to upgrade ubuntu, then go ahead...
[12:37] <k1l_> MCSH: are you sure to give the right ssh command?
[12:38] <MCSH> k1l_: yes, It worked perfectly fine last week
[12:38] <k1l_> gotcha: if you leave the 14.04 LTS you need to upgrade every 6 months.
[12:38] <gotcha> MonkeyDust, well, if there is another way you know of that doesnt require to upgrade the OS and lets us install the package from ubuntu 15, then i'd like to do that
[12:39] <k1l_> MCSH: then see the auth log on the server
[12:39] <MCSH> it says failed password for root from .... port...
[12:39] <MCSH> k1l_:
[12:39] <k1l_> MCSH: so try a user then intead of root
[12:39] <gotcha> k1l_, do you know how to install a package from ubuntu 15 in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[12:39] <k1l_> MCSH: and root login is a bad idea anyways
[12:39] <MCSH> k1l_:I changed password using passwd command, the new password won't work too
[12:40] <k1l_> gotcha: see if there is a PPA to offer a later version
[12:40] <k1l_> gotcha: dont mix the 14.04 and 15.04 packages. that will result in drama
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> gotcha  what k1l_ says, i had the same idea
[12:40] <gotcha> that sucks
[12:41] <gotcha> one last thing, is it possible to upgrade a package installed through apt-get using the source instead?
[12:42] <k1l_> you can compile your own stuff. but you are loosing the packagesystem service then for that package. like updates etc
[12:43] <MCSH> k1l_: Thanks for the tip but that doesn't solve my current problem
[12:43] <gotcha> k1l_, thats the thing, there is no more updates except in the next version of ubuntu for that package
[12:44] <gotcha> what im asking is, do i have to remove the package i installed using apt-get frist and then install from source, or the package can be upgraded using the source program
[12:44] <k1l_> gotcha: you dont get updates while using the LTS. new versions can change  things so the system looses stability or software doesnt work anymore.
[12:44] <OerHeks> gotcha, remove the package, then build
[12:44] <k1l_> gotcha: see if there is a PPA for trusty. that is the easiest way for you
[12:45] <k1l_> MCSH: make sure the password is correct?
[12:46] <MCSH> k1l_: yes, however I should mention I changed my id_rsa recently, but that shouldn't be a problem since the server prompts me with password
[12:46] <TJ-> gotcha: the (Ruby) dependencies have changed quite substantially between 14.04 and 15.04 so expect some pain if trying to build/install
[12:47] <gotcha> TJ-, that sucks
[12:47] <gotcha> you running redmine by any chance?
[12:47] <TJ-> gotcha: no.
[12:47] <k1l_> gotcha: the 3.xx redmine version got totally different depencies.
[12:48] <TenFingersOfBang> dude, roots a great idea. I always change my root password to "password1" then forget about it.
[12:49]  * OerHeks smells a troll
[12:49]  * cfhowlett fully agrees with OerHeks 
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  invoke your /ignore list
[12:51] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, I'm still in the observation stage.  he's been in channel for about 15 minutes but this is his first trollish statement.  curious to see where he goes next.
[13:01] <zzarr> the Ubuntu One file server is open source :D
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !ubuntuone | zzarr
[13:03] <zzarr> yes MonkeyDust but the file server source is being released
[13:04] <PCatinean> Is there any way to install Ubuntu Server on a remote phisical server with no phisical access to it?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> zzarr, better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic.  this channel is for tech support
[13:04] <PCatinean> Maybe it even has ssh access and a different ubuntu installation now, not sure
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> PCatinean  try tasksel (tzsk select)
[13:04] <PCatinean> I got ftp access but I doubt that helps me
[13:04] <OerHeks> zzarr, good news yeah
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> PCatinean  try tasksel (task select)*
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !server | PCatinean ask the other channel??
[13:04] <PCatinean> MonkeyDust, doesn't that work only in Ubuntu?
[13:04] <zzarr> okey, I just wanted to express my happiness ;)
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> PCatinean  yes this is ubuntu support
[13:05] <Et0h> If anyone can help with the support query at https://github.com/Syncplay/syncplay/issues/70 then that would be greatly appreciated. A user installed PySide for Python 2.7 but still gets a "No module named PySide" error and it is suspected to be some sort of Ubuntu path issue.
[13:06] <PCatinean> And you say it's possible to re-install a whole new operating system from within ubuntu intself?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> PCatinean  no, tasksel adds php, apache, file server... whatever you select/choose
[13:08] <Oggy> i need a bigger hard drive for ubuntu server
[13:08] <Pici> !netinstall
[13:09] <ubuntunewb> hello?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !ask | ubuntunewb
[13:15] <ubuntunewb> In the setup process if I select "erase all" instead of choosing to install ubuntu alongside windows, will it wipe all partitions or just the one with windows on it?
[13:16] <EriC^^> all
[13:16] <k1l_> ubuntunewb: it will wipe the whole drive
[13:16] <k1l_> actually it will make a new partitiontable which is the same result
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> ubuntunewb  make a backup, before you continue, so you're safe
[13:17] <ubuntunewb> It's quite a lot of data around 250GB
[13:17] <ubuntunewb> I only want to install ubuntu one partition which is about 70GB
[13:17] <k1l_> ubuntunewb: than choose manual partitioning
[13:18] <ubuntunewb> the 70GB partition is mentioned as sda1
[13:18] <ubuntunewb> should I format it as ext4?
[13:19] <k1l_> ubuntunewb: yes.
[13:19] <ubuntunewb> and what should i select for the mount point for that partition?
[13:19] <EriC^^> "/"
[13:19] <ubuntunewb> and device for bootloader should be /dev/sda1 ?
[13:20] <EriC^^> /dev/sda
[13:20] <k1l_> sda
[13:21] <ubuntunewb> Okay, continuing with the installation now, will be back if I get stuck
[13:21] <ubuntunewb> Thank you
[13:24] <Dirkos> I have a server with nginx and i want to create a webhook. The problem is that the traffic is coming in via www-data (nginx user) and that i need to run a command as "pim" user
[13:24] <Dirkos> how can i do that
[13:24] <Dirkos> If i do a "su www-data" as root i receive the message that the user
[13:24] <Dirkos> "This account is currently not available."
[13:24] <Dirkos> So i cannot emulate it by loging in as www-data user
[13:25] <EriC^^> Dirkos: su www-data -s /bin/bash
[13:25] <N1K0L4i> :)
[13:26] <EriC^^> not sure about what you're trying to achieve but you can run that to get a shell with that user
[13:26] <Dirkos> EriC^^: well how can i run a script as a different user?
[13:26] <EriC^^> well i don't know about the nginx way of doing it
[13:27] <teward> Dirkos: you can't.
[13:27] <N1K0L4i> what is better AMD or Nvidia graphic card for Ubuntu and wine ?
[13:27] <Dirkos> well its not really nginx related but the script is executed as www-data user
[13:27] <teward> Dirkos: perhaps with nginx+Lua, but nginx on its own can't execute scripts in a typical setup as other users
[13:27] <teward> Dirkos: typically you'll have a backend application that can run as a different user and then run said script(s)
[13:27] <Dirkos> teward: it will run the script, the script will execute shell command
[13:27] <Dirkos> sudo -u pim -i /var/www/packagist.pim.eu/bin/satis build /var/www/packagist.pim.eu/satis.json /var/www/packagist.pim.eu/public
[13:27] <Dirkos> But it promps for a password when i try it
[13:27] <teward> Dirkos: then you need to read the sudoers manpage
[13:28] <Dirkos> Im now on the shell as www-data user and execute that script
[13:28] <teward> Dirkos: the problem is that you should NEVER let www-data run sudo
[13:28] <teward> FOR ANY REASON
[13:28] <teward> unless you are ABSOLUTELY SURE you know what you're doing
[13:28] <friesk> random noob question (hopefully not really an apache question) -- is there a way set apache back to defaults?  I manually deleted conf files for two virtual hosts and now i'm getting permission errors at localhost (not even sure if deletion-without-use-of-a2dissite is the issue) -- good news is the apache restart does not report a fail
[13:28] <pbx> i was gonna say. if www-data on your machine has sufficient privileges for this then something is wrong
[13:28] <Dirkos> I know what im doing, else i need to setup a ssh key for www-data user
[13:28] <Mathisen> N1K0L4i NVIDIA seem to give better support..
[13:28] <Dirkos> And i dont think that is smart right?
[13:28] <teward> Dirkos: the ONLY time you should permit `sudo` is if you give it NOPASSWD for ONE SINGLE COMMAND
[13:28] <teward> Dirkos: neither is smart, and `www-data` shouldn't be logged into anyways
[13:29] <teward> Dirkos: and even then, I don't recommend it for security purposes
[13:29] <teward> Dirkos: i've been in similar situations, but the backend applications always ran as separate nonprivileged users.
[13:29] <elux> hi
[13:30] <Dirkos> teward: the issue is that i only have an http hook
[13:30] <Dirkos> So the only trigger i have is a HTTP call to nginx
[13:30] <elux> im trying to install `texlive-latext-base` and getting this error from apt: E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/ghostscript/libgs9-common_9.10~dfsg-0ubuntu10.3_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[13:30] <elux> any suggestions?
[13:30] <EriC^^> elux: try sudo apt-get update
[13:31] <k1l_> elux: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[13:31] <teward> Dirkos: web hooks are simple as sin with other applications, a simple daemon listening on a higher port under the nonprivileged user can accept proxy_pass'd traffic and then process said hook and run said script and return data back
[13:32] <teward> Dirkos: but you *really* need to consider that if the hook cannot be run as www-data it's time to reexamine the application and the setup of said applicati0on
[13:32] <Dirkos> well it needs to trigger a command on the shell, thats the thing
[13:32] <elux> thanks that helped.. it was in a docker container, so i have to do a no-cache to get the apt-update in
[13:32] <teward> Dirkos: irrelevant - it's a command and you need the output, you don't need a shell script to do that, there's a billion scripting languages that work that way
[13:33] <Dirkos> teward: it can run as www-data but the issue is that i need to setup a SSH key for that. Since it needs to communicate with github etc
[13:33] <teward> ...
[13:34] <teward> Dirkos: for the record this conversation is going in circles.  For security purposes you DO NOT give www-data sudo access.  For security purposes, you DO NOT run other-user-privileged webhooks as www-data as part of nginx, you usually have another nonprivileged user that can run it when something is called, so either a scripting backend or such OTHER than the shell.
[13:34] <teward> Dirkos: I also don't accept PMs so you can stop that
[13:35] <teward> Dirkos: the moment you have to have a web application interface with GitHub, and `git` commands on terminal, you are no longer in a web applicatuion, or web hook.
[13:35] <Kvitka> hello
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[13:36] <Kvitka> gyçhnrguyvtwili
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[13:36] <DJones> Kvitka: Stop
[13:42] <Philipp__> hi guys how can I do an apt-get upgrade without touching the kernel/grub?
[13:42] <Dhev> hi every one
[13:42] <Dhev> how to join a ubuntu machine in domain
[13:43] <OerHeks> Philipp__, if there is a Kernel in your updates, you cannot avoid that. maybe you can check the updates and unselect the kernel, but that could result in a broken update
[13:44] <OerHeks> Philipp__, so why do you ask?
[13:45] <Philipp__> I run machine on aws and on first boot I normally do an apt-get upgrade which just broke due to subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 255
[13:45] <TJ-> Philipp__: you mean wuthout triggering the kernel/grub/initramfs-tools hooks?
[13:45] <Philipp__> yes
[13:45] <jpds> Philipp__: Don't think that you can
[13:46] <HoNgOuRu> hi
[13:47] <TJ-> Philipp__: grub should only be updated if initrd.img or kernel changes.
[13:48] <alpace> hello
[13:49] <jjavaholic> I can't get hardware acceleration ubuntu and VDPAU to work
[13:51] <HoNgOuRu> I can't login with my account with gdm, but with the terminal there is no problem
[13:51] <EriC^^> Philipp__: apt-get upgrade doesn't touch the kernels, or grub, unless it updates grub itself
[13:51] <TJ-> Philipp__: you could use dpkg-divert to make /usr/sbin/update-grub point to /bin/true ... same for other triggers
[13:51] <EriC^^> Philipp__: dist-upgrade upgrades the kernels
[13:52] <Philipp__> hmm I think I will disable the initial apt-get upgrade
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> HoNgOuRu  i'm sure you mean lightdm, not gdm... what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[13:52] <Philipp__> and just use the latest base image provided by ubuntu which is normally only a few days old
[13:52] <HoNgOuRu> let me check
[13:52] <yecril71pl> I cannot unlock User accounts.
[13:53] <HoNgOuRu> elementary OS Freya \n \1 but now Im logged as a regular user with no root privileges
[13:53] <boldfilter1> Hi
[13:53] <yecril71pl> When I hover over the lock, I get a tool tip: ‘ System policy prevents changes; contact your system administrator.‘’
[13:53] <HoNgOuRu> MonkeyDust,
[13:53] <kadiro> hello
[13:54] <yecril71pl> I am the system administrator; it turns out I should contact myself =-O
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> HoNgOuRu  that's what i thought... elementary is not supported here
[13:54] <OerHeks> Elementary has its own issues, HoNgOuRu , join the elementary channel for support
[13:54] <HoNgOuRu> ok, but its nothing related to elementary
[13:55] <HoNgOuRu> I tried to install vncserver
[13:55] <HoNgOuRu> and that made the error
[13:55] <HoNgOuRu> I touched rc.local
[13:55] <HoNgOuRu> and vncserver at /etc/init.d/vncserver
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> HoNgOuRu  we don't know in what way elementary differs from ubuntu, therefore we cannot help
[13:56] <kadiro> HoNgOuRu: all things out of ubuntu is not supported here no choice man
[13:56] <HoNgOuRu> MonkeyDust, ok, Ill go there, anyways I think its not related... but thanks for your time
[13:59] <kadiro> any one know about viewing encrypted channels with vdr ?
[14:00] <kadiro> may be my question is out of rule i think
[14:01] <kryo_> hi, i have 2 interfaces in my virtual machine for WLAN and LAN respectively; they're both working but when i unplug the host's ethernet cord the internet completely stops working unless i run "ifdown eth0"
[14:02] <ashwini_> Hi.. I'm trying to install vlc on 15.04
[14:02] <ashwini_> I am getting an error libgles2-mesa : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 10.5.2-0ubuntu1) but 10.6.3+git20150809+10.6.736f6e16-0ubuntu0ricotz~vivid is to be installed
[14:02] <ashwini_> any clue why ?
[14:03] <kadiro> kryo_: what about ifup wlan0 ... n
[14:03] <kadiro> !info libgles2-mesa
[14:03] <kryo_> kadiro: it's eth0 and eth1, "ifup eth1" says it's already configured
[14:04] <ashwini_> kadiro, i dont have any other ppa's installed. I dont know form where the 10.6 + git version is coming.
[14:04] <OerHeks> ashwini_, run updates before installing. else is there any ppa involved?
[14:04] <kadiro> kryo_: your wlan is eth1 ?
[14:04] <ashwini_> OerHeks, only other ppa is for tlp. I have all updates and upgrades done
[14:04] <kryo_> yeah it's a virtual machine
[14:05] <ashwini_> apt-get -f install also  doesnt do anything
[14:05] <kadiro> ashwini_: yes the ppa have some depenencies with libgles2
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> ashwini_  remove tlp and use thermald from the repos
[14:06] <ashwini_> MonkeyDust, okay lemme try that
[14:06] <kadiro> ashwini_: may be you must use apt-get -f install and autoremove
[14:06] <minimec> ashwini_: Looks like  that 'git' version belongs to the 'xorg-edgers' ppa. Do you still have that enabled? see here... http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/vivid/main/base/libglapi-mesa
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> ashwini_  in a terminal, type this to see what it does   apt-cache show thermald
[14:06] <kryo_> kadiro: someone told me i should use ifplugd but it doesn't seem to work (i'm guessing because it's a virtual machine)
[14:07] <kadiro> yes true kryo_ i guess too
[14:07] <ashwini_> minimec, I added edgers ppa, and removed it.. but for some reason it seems that is not removed completely. How to do some "reset" ?
[14:08] <minimec> ashwini_: 'ppa-purge' probably
[14:08] <kadiro> ashwini_: apt-get purge APPLICATION
[14:08] <ashwini_> okay lemme try those
[14:09] <minimec> ashwini_: If you removed that ppa, do an 'sudo apt-gt update' first and check again.
[14:09] <ashwini_> minimec, okay
[14:10] <ashwini_> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/REkn2H49
[14:12] <kryo_> kadiro: i restarted and it works now :S
[14:12] <kadiro> congratulation kryo_
[14:14] <kryo_> ?_?
[14:16] <emeline> 2102
[14:17] <kadiro> MonkeyDust: I'm interested about thermald, how to use it ?
[14:18] <kadiro> !info thermald
[14:18] <kadiro> !how thermald
[14:18] <Delta706> Is there any package to do noise filtering of microphone sound?
[14:19] <kadiro> yes Delta706 but i forget the name
[14:20] <Delta706> It is a feature of Audacity but I want it on-the-fly
[14:20] <friesk> found the right thing to change back --- super phew
[14:20] <kadiro> Delta706: may be you want this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/18958/realtime-noise-removal-with-pulseaudio
[14:20] <kadiro> yes Delta706 audacity
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  install it, then do nothing, it runs as a daemon... my old frankenstein-laptop never overheats anymore... i also use indicator-cpufreq http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/indicator-cpufreq.png
[14:21] <Dirkos> Why does this prompt for password? sudoers
[14:21] <Dirkos> pim ALL=(satis) NOPASSWD: /bin/bash
[14:21] <kadiro> MonkeyDust: thank you very much i used before fancontrol but not work but you solved my pc man
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  glad i could help
[14:23] <EriC^^> Dirkos: that'll let user pim run sudo bash
[14:24] <ashwini> Still no luck.. :( ppa purge says it cant find the xorg-edgers ppa. Then I manually deleted the ppa files
[14:24] <gustian> im newbie friends
[14:24] <ashwini> can somebody please tell me how to get all the packages index to a pristine state?
[14:25] <ashwini> there must be some cache which when cleared would get rid of all ppa related stuff right
[14:26] <kadiro> ashwini: try apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean and apt-get autoremove and after apt-get update
[14:26] <minimec> ashwini: well.. 'sudo apt-get update' should do that job (clear cache).
[14:27] <ashwini> okay let me try again
[14:29] <Delta706> kadiro: I do not think that audacity can do it on the fly. I see that askubuntu question has a second answer. Do you think that answer is worth a try?
[14:29] <ashwini> kadiro, minimec the problem still persists... I did it in the order kadiro told
[14:29] <ashwini> anything left to do
[14:29] <ashwini> ?
[14:29] <Oggy> is it ok to install ubuntu desktop in ubuntu server
[14:30] <kadiro> try it Delta706
[14:31] <kadiro> ashwini: the same error?
[14:32] <ashwini> kadiro,  yes
[14:32] <ashwini>  vlc : Depends: libgles1-mesa (>= 7.8.1) but it is not going to be installed or
[14:32] <ashwini>                 libgles1
[14:32] <ashwini>        Depends: libgles2-mesa (>= 7.8.1) but it is not going to be installed or
[14:32] <ashwini>                 libgles2
[14:32] <minimec> ashwini: Ok. So let's try to add the 'xorg-edgers' ppa again, do 'sudo apt-get update', then sudo 'ppa-purg xorg-edgers', then 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:32] <ashwini> minimec, :( okay
[14:32] <kadiro> ppa-purge xorg-edgers " e in purg "
[14:33] <minimec> ^^ ;)
[14:33] <Delta706> this is why I avoid ppa's these days
[14:33] <kadiro> thk's minimec i learn a lot from you :) about ppa-purge never heard that
[14:34] <minimec> kadiro: I hardly use it, as I also try to avoid ppa's...
[14:34] <kadiro> you right minimec a many ppas do a very strong problem
[14:34] <Delta706> if I need something non-standard, I build it myself
[14:40] <Oggy> what is the proper syntax for installing unbuntu desktop on a server install
[14:40] <Oggy> or its graphical interface
[14:40] <jpds> Oggy: Why would you do that?
[14:40] <somsip> !info ubuntu-desktop | Oggy
[14:40] <compdoc> Oggy, I use Mate because I need a remote desktop
[14:41] <jpds> Oggy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI
[14:41] <Oggy> yes i use teamvier myself
[14:41] <Oggy> just need to install it
[14:41]  * jpds uses SSH
[14:41] <compdoc> teamviewer might work with Unity
[14:42] <ashwini> phew..! ppa-purge to the rescue! Thank you very much kadiro minimec :* :*
[14:42] <jpds> Not a *single* server I help manage has a desktop on it
[14:42] <Rander> Hello
[14:42] <kadiro> you welcome ashwini all thank's to minimec
[14:42] <compdoc> *All* the servers I build have a desktop on them
[14:42] <Oggy> want to use teamviewer with unbuntu desktop
[14:43] <minimec> ashwini: no problem
[14:43] <ashwini> :)
[14:45] <bob3247> ubuntu 14.10 - laptop touchpad buggy, partially works, look online and try some suggestions ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection  ) but no joy, then i do a suggested evtest /dev/input/event7 (which outputs verbose touchpad data  to term) and just doing this seems to have fixed the problem - there should be a better way than having this run all the time though i would have thought - any suggestions?
[14:46] <Qantourisc> anyone can tell me if I screwed up my ubunut: do you still have the file /dev/initctl ?
[14:47] <kadiro> I have one question, we can install ubuntu to android phone? ( sorry if i'm out of information, never use a latest technologies )
[14:47] <somsip> !touch | kadiro
[14:48] <kadiro> thank you somsip i will read this link
[14:48] <Qantourisc> If you don't feel like an expert just run ls /dev/initctl to help :D
[14:48] <badbodh> i want to touch kadiro too
[14:48] <kadiro> loll hi badbodh
[14:49] <badbodh> o/
[14:49] <bob3247> $ ls /dev/initctl
[14:49] <bob3247> ls: cannot access /dev/initctl: No such file or directory
[14:50] <badbodh> bob3247, if you ran those commands, there will be three files created in your home directory: evtest, dmesg, Xorg.0.log
[14:50] <badbodh> check your home folder, paste those file contents on different pastebins
[14:50] <badbodh> share url here
[14:50] <kadiro> !info initctl
[14:50] <edutilos666> where i am?
[14:51] <badbodh> initctl = systemd/sysvinit compatibility stuff ?
[14:51] <kadiro> in earth edutilos666
[14:51] <edutilos666> help part
[14:51] <kadiro> yes
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> edutilos666  ask your ubuntu question here
[14:53] <kadiro> how to install touch in android phone and that cause loosing my data in it?
[14:54] <somsip> kadiro: you've already been directed to #ubuntu-touch
[14:55] <kadiro> oh sorry sompsip i will check that thk's again
[14:55] <nicofs> Hi there! When trying to remove "firefox" via apt-get, "thunderbird" is automatically installed and vice versa (why?). I want neither, how do I achieve this?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  use synaptic to remove both
[14:57] <nicofs> MonkeyDust, sry, cli only...
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  what does this do   sudo apt-get purge firefox* thunderbird*
[14:59] <nicofs> MonkeyDust, it does the trick! thanks!
[15:01] <Qantourisc> bob3247: thank you
[15:02] <Kvitka> alguem joga strdoll????
[15:03] <Pici> !pt | Kvitka
[15:03] <Kvitka> nng fala no ubuntu-pt fodes
[15:05] <OerHeks> likely you are banned there, Kvitka
[15:05] <OerHeks> google translate shows dirty language
[15:09] <joel135> Hi, I am trying to write Ukrainian letters. I am using IBus and ibus-table-translit-ua. A second ago I didn't know how to write й but I figured out by trial and error. Now I can't find Я. How can I be systematic about finding the keys? I did find a database /usr/share/ibus-table/tables/translit-ua.db which may contain the mapping but I'm not familiar with SQL.
[15:09] <joel135> My physical keyboard is Swedish so it's pretty similar to a US one.
[15:12] <joel135> I found the я now. You write "ja". But I'm still interested in a general answer.
[15:12] <kadiro> joel135: sorry i have no idea about that
[15:13] <graft_> hey all, my touchpad won't wake up after lid open (i.e. xev shows no events) - anyone know how i can wake it up? with udev maybe?
[15:14] <kadiro> graft_: i think your answer is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/528293/is-there-a-way-to-restart-the-touchpad-driver
[15:17] <minimec> graft_: I would go in this direction... You add a little script to your suspend procedure, like here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250002&s=f288d3b1781f8dfa88479794ede4b891&p=13218677#post13218677
[15:20] <Trivium> Hey. Thinkpad E540 running Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, on suspend to ram (using s2ram or closing lid) can not be woken. Where ought I look to fix this?
[15:22] <Guest18426> use vim how to save when Insufficient permissions
[15:23] <Trivium> Sudo up
[15:23] <Trivium> There are plugins for that, actually.
[15:23] <kadiro> brb
[15:24] <Guest18426> ：Sudo up
[15:24] <Guest18426> :brb
[15:24] <Guest18426> like this
[15:25] <Guest18426> i have write something in it
[15:26] <minimec> Trivium: There is a 'dirty' workaround... Looks like disabeling USB3.0 in the BIOS settings does the trick. Afterwards you can dig further... http://askubuntu.com/questions/489912/thinkpad-does-not-wake-from-sleep-14-04
[15:26] <jjj_> what do you guys use for package management?
[15:27] <ex0r> hello
[15:27] <jjj_> hi
[15:27] <minimec> jjj_: apt, synaptic
[15:27] <ex0r> I have a server, which suddenly stopped accepting connections. Is there something I can check to see why?
[15:28] <Guest18426> i see they are plugins
[15:29] <ex0r> Stopped accepting connections on it's hostname, sorry. If I connect to it's internal lan ip I can connect still
[15:29] <Trivium> minimec: That seems like an acceptable solution for now.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> ex0r: lights on the NIC
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> ex0r: pings to default gateway from server
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> ex0r: check DNS
[15:31] <ex0r> hmm weird it appears to be working now
[15:31] <ex0r> maybe the dns server had a brain fart for a second
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> ex0r: probably DNS
[15:33] <Stalkr_> Hi, how do I get a later version of git? The latest seems to be 1.9.2 even though 2.5.0 is out
[15:33] <Stalkr_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install git -> git v1.9.2
[15:34] <Stalkr_> I am on Ubuntu Trusty LTS
[15:35] <OerHeks> Vivid uses 2.1.4, wily 2.50 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git
[15:35] <Stalkr_> OerHeks: Is Vivid/Wily a version name like Trusty?
[15:35] <Stalkr_> I'm new to Ubuntu, using it with Vagrant
[15:36] <OerHeks> Stalkr_, yes, vivid 15.04/wily 15.10 ( in beta )
[15:37] <Stalkr_> OerHeks: How do I get git 2.5.0 to Trusty? Do I have to do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa?
[15:38] <Stalkr_> Looks like it :-)
[15:38] <OerHeks> Stalkr_, that is one way yes, but carefull with PPAs
[15:38] <Stalkr_> OerHeks: How come?
[15:39] <OerHeks> PPAs are not officially supported, so if there is a bug, you will need to adress the ppa owner.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Stalkr_: what is in the 2.5.0 version that you need so badly?
[15:39] <Stalkr_> ActionParsnip: Not sure if anything, I'm just curious
[15:39] <OerHeks> 2.50 is just out, 14 days
[15:39] <Stalkr_> I'm just used to Homebrew
[15:39] <minimec> Stalkr_: The question is... Do you really a new version of git? If your answer is 'probably not', I would not go for the ppa...
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Stalkr_: Unless there is a good reason to upgrade a package, the package will stay. Significant bug and security fixes are prime reasons for upgrades
[15:40] <minimec> Stalkr_: +need ;)
[15:40] <Stalkr_> Alrighty, how do I remove the repository and 'git' the old version back?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Stalkr_: Ubuntu is not a rolling release distribution and packages may get left behind. Try looking at functionality of the package version available rather than the version numbers
[15:42] <Stalkr_> Oh, it was easy enough
[15:42] <Stalkr_> I'll stay on 1.9.1 then
[15:42] <lucus> i run kxstudio/kubuntu-based and kernel 3.13.0-61 on AMD.  i've always used cpu governor ondemand and it was working ok before. now CPU stays at highest speed.  how to fix this?
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> lucus  install indicator-cpufreq from the repos http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/indicator-cpufreq.png
[15:45] <lucus> MonkeyDust: it is already installed (v0.2.2)
[15:46] <lucus> MonkeyDust: cpupower frequency-info says i'm using ondemand and speed is 3.8 GHz (the max)
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> lucus  and you cannot set it to powersave?
[15:50] <Oggy> teamviewr not installing
[15:50] <Oggy> ugg
[15:50] <Oggy> :[
[15:51] <Oggy> what is going on
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: what do you plan to do n the remote PC? there may be a sleeker solution
[15:51] <Oggy> installed it before
[15:51] <Oggy> im swapping freebsd and ubuntu server
[15:51] <Oggy> machines
[15:52] <Oggy> previously had it installed on unbuntu server
[15:52] <Oggy> why cant i install it now
[15:52] <lucus> MonkeyDust: yes i can change to powersave but cpu freq still at 3.8 GHz (stdout: current CPU frequency is 3.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> lucus  that's odd... is your cpu overheating?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: but what are you going to use Teamviewer to do n the remote PC?
[15:53] <sleezio> hello, does anyone know of an app/utility that will put a 'hotspot' in the bottom right corner of windows to give you an area to click/drag to resize windows? it's currently set to where you have to be on the exact spot(pixel) to get the dual arrow for resizing
[15:53] <Oggy> oh wait i see whats going on
[15:54] <Oggy> nevermind
[15:54] <Oggy> am 64 package
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> sleezio  wrong channel, this ubuntu support, type / ##windows
[15:54] <Oggy> etc
[15:54] <Oggy> meh
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> sleezio  wrong channel, this ubuntu support, type /j ##windows
[15:54] <lucus> MonkeyDust: no. sensors gives me good temp readings but since CPU is always max, the fan is always on at full speed...
[15:54] <sleezio> MonkeyDust, MS owns ubuntu now?
[15:54] <lucus> MonkeyDust: not a good thing for audio works...
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> sleezio  i misread
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: you'll probably find a lighter solution that Teamviewer to do most things
[15:55] <Oggy> which solution would that be
[15:55] <Oggy> ?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: well...what do you want to do on the remmote systems you connect to ?
[15:56] <Oggy> the machine is next to me and I dont want to add a kvm switch
[15:56] <Oggy> teamviewer is free
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: does it have its own monitor?
[15:56] <Oggy> and does work on ubuntu i would assume because I already had it setup
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: does it have its own monitor?
[15:57] <Oggy> yes the machine has its own monitor
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: then why not use synergy
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: one mouse on one system, you move the mouse off one side and it appears on the other system
[15:58] <KlausedSource> since #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org isn't answering me, may I ask my question here?
[15:58] <Oggy> eh thats ok ,
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: on the other screen
[15:58] <Oggy> im good with teamviwer thats for the suggestion
[15:58] <Oggy> though
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: so like a kvm but over LAN
[15:58] <KlausedSource> recently my Thunderbird doesn't update imap folders automatically. It updates them when i click on another folder and then return to the previously selected one.
[15:58] <KlausedSource> I have this same situation on 2 independent machines
[15:58] <Oggy> can you help me with this though , " Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound2
[15:59] <Oggy> getting that error
[16:00] <Zombyrad> Oggy, running a 64 bit Ubuntu version?
[16:00] <Oggy> yes
[16:01] <Oggy> yes Zombyrad Ubuntu Server
[16:01] <Zombyrad> You might need to install the 32bit compatibility libraries/packages
[16:01] <Oggy> ah ok
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: I always ask because people install teamviewer for all sorts of stupid crap. Like one guy who was unsing team viewer to then open a terminal and run updates.
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> lucus  scroll down, here's one happy user   http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[16:02] <OerHeks> KlausedSource, known issue for years > " Thunderbird refreshes the folder list when it connects to the server, in particular, at startup. You can force a refresh of the folder list any time by collapsing and re-expanding it."
[16:02] <Zombyrad> Oggy, or try with sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: basically, users dont think much and I like to offer sleek alternatives that run great
[16:03] <Oggy> fresh install i dont even have a terminal
[16:03] <Oggy> where is teh terminal on here
[16:03] <Oggy> found it
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: the default install has a terminal. Press CTRL + ALT + T and one will pop up
[16:03] <Oggy> ok
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Oggy: to be GNU compliant a distribution HAS to ship with xter,. even MacOS has xterm and vi by default
[16:07] <KlausedSource> OerHeks, well actually it used to work before
[16:09] <CyberTails> Hello There, For some reason, my system now boots into Emergency Mode and I have to type in "systemctl default" to continu, is there a way to just boot into the desktop again?
[16:09] <backbox> hi all
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> CyberTails  hold shift during boot, to get the grub menu
[16:11] <CyberTails> The menu still shows up though and I when I select the normal startup, after a little bit, it stops at Emergency Mode
[16:11] <Cyb3rn3t> hi
[16:11] <Cyb3rn3t> it is funny that Ubuntu 15.04 has the problem with the volume scroll bar :D
[16:12] <Cyb3rn3t> they don't want to fix it ?
[16:12] <backbox> any body here professional at backbox versions
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> Cyb3rn3t  what brings you here
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> backbox  backbox is not supported here
[16:12] <backbox> oo
[16:12] <backbox> so where can it be supported
[16:12] <backbox> what about kali linlux
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> backbox  also not supported here
[16:14] <Cyb3rn3t> MonkeyDust: ?
[16:14] <Oggy> incredible
[16:14] <ioria> Cyb3rn3t, journalctl -xb ?
[16:14] <Oggy> why can this be happening now
[16:15] <backbox> any one how know how to use toolkit
[16:16] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: it is working, no problem with the volume, but If I holt my mouse button while I move the bar, and leave the box with the cursor and relase the button, when I go back to the volume box with the cursor, the volume bar follow my mouse...
[16:16] <bryan___> Hello everybody
[16:16] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: same happening in 14.04
[16:17] <bryan___> i need help to know details of keyboard layout support in linux
[16:17] <Cyb3rn3t> bryan___: go ahead
[16:17] <ioria> Cyb3rn3t,  can you open a terminal ?
[16:18] <bryan___> i meant different language keyboard layout
[16:19] <parab> hello
[16:20] <parab> I have this OneNote file I really need to open... I've searched the web, but so far I've been unable to find software running on Ubuntu that can open MS OneNote files. Any ideas ?
[16:21] <asper> where can i find the default recipe as when i choose "d-i partman/default_filesystem string btrfs"?
[16:21] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: sure :)
[16:21] <Radkos> hello!
[16:21] <bryan___> where are the language packages installed?
[16:22] <ioria> Cyb3rn3t,  check /etc/fstab if there are suspicious  entries .... did you upgrade from 14 to 15 ?
[16:23] <JayBau> Sup
[16:23] <Cyb3rn3t> bryan___: default you have one layout installed, what you selected when you installed it.
[16:23] <Cyb3rn3t> bryan___: you can add more layouts, and you can easy change between them..
[16:24] <Radkos> I did something bad with my hdd trying to recover the information in it. Using testdisk utility I changed head from 16 to 255 without noticing that the HDD's default state is 16 heads and now the bios can't recognize it, it's still spinning - did that change affected HDD's firmware and is it resettable?
[16:25] <OerHeks> asper, not sure where, just looking @ https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[16:25] <Cyb3rn3t> bryan___: System settings, Text Entry
[16:25] <Radkos> anyone has a clue?
[16:25] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: I have a fresh install
[16:25] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: and I have 14 as well
 - actually i want to know if i install german layout on ubuntu, what and where relevant binaries/libs/fonts are getting copied/installed in the ubuntu system
[16:26] <OerHeks> Radkos, that command should not touch firmware, why do you think it is?
[16:26] <OerHeks> just restart testdisk, i guess
[16:26] <rednecktek> a recent update seems to have broken my nvidia setup. after getting the drivers back working in X, glx is broken. Any ideas how to fix are appreciated.
[16:26] <Radkos> well after that change I've made the bios can't recognize the disk
[16:26] <Radkos> I restarted the system itself
[16:27] <Oggy> ok teamviewer is set on unbuntu server that machine is finished
[16:27] <Oggy> now i have to do freebsd
[16:27] <OerHeks> Radkos, change that bios setting back, ... how hard can that be?
[16:27] <Radkos> and now have COMRESET errno=-16 message
[16:27] <Radkos> I didn't change it thru the bios but thru the testdisk
[16:28] <Radkos> I basicly changed the hdd's geometry
[16:28] <Serano> xcwv
[16:29] <bryan___> I used System settings/Language support, text entry............but i am not aware which binary/libaries/fonts are installed on the system...
[16:29] <Radkos> what that errno=-16 means
[16:29] <bryan___> if you can help me to get this information,,that will be great help
[16:29] <fellayaboy> im having problems with my dhcp-server in linux mate for raspberry pi 2.... dhcp doesnt give out an ip addresses
[16:29] <Radkos> is it trying to read hdd using 16 heads size?
[16:30] <bryan___> @<Cyb3rn3t>
[16:30] <fellayaboy> this is baically how i have my dhcp set up http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_15.04&p=dhcp
[16:30] <OerHeks> Radkos, so change it back in testdisk and start again ??
[16:30] <Oggy> can i get recommendations for software on a fresh install of ubuntu server
[16:31] <jpds> Oggy: What do you need?
[16:31] <Radkos> I can't... after a while the kernel gives up trying to COMRESET it whatever this is
[16:31] <Oggy> already have unbuntu desktop installed
[16:31] <Radkos> and there is no hdd in /dev/sd* shown anymore
[16:31] <OerHeks> Radkos, i cannot help you there, you messed up big time :-(
[16:31] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: o-o
[16:32] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: I appologize, the 15.04 is good
[16:32] <Radkos> ok, tnx
[16:32] <Cyb3rn3t> ioria: I comfused by the versions, sorry :D, so just 14 has this bug
[16:33] <ioria> Cyb3rn3t,  have you checked /etc/fstab  ?
[16:34] <bryan___> @<Cyb3rn3t>, I used System settings/Language support, text entry............but i am not aware which binary/libaries/fonts are installed on the system...
, if you can help me in this
[16:34] <jpds> Oggy: #ubuntu-server
[16:35] <bryan___> i am aware of following : /usr/share/fonts/
[16:37] <Mandeep_Singh> Hi all, I want to extract specific values (text) from a file and then apply some command on it.
[16:38] <jeffsw> Help!  I've got a headless Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS machine here at home, and a Windows box with Cygwin.  I have been using XDMCP successfully up until today, when it "suddenly stopped working."  I had been getting some errors related to pulseaudio in syslog (about unable to create already-existing directories in /run/user) and no greeter screen when I connect using XDMCP
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> Mandeep_Singh  i guess you can do that with awk and | xargs [command] ... but i'm not sure about the exact syntax... maybe in the #bash channel
[16:39] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: grep value file
[16:39] <Mandeep_Singh> Or to make it easy to understand: I want to get specific values from a text file (data file) and use it in another file(input file)
[16:39] <Mandeep_Singh> to get output
[16:40] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: Use grep to look for those values?
[16:41] <Mandeep_Singh> jpds, I think it may not be useful in case if I don't know the values.
[16:41] <jeffsw> Should I maybe try #ubuntu-x with my XDMCP problem?  I am lost without my desktop today
[16:41] <Mandeep_Singh>   Think it like key: value pair... I know the 'key' but not 'value' then what can I do?
[16:41] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: grep key file
[16:41] <Qantourisc> Running kill -sSIGTERM 1 results in "[90826.163300] init: Re-executing /sbin/init"
[16:42] <Qantourisc> and not in a shutdown, any ideas ?
[16:42] <Mandeep_Singh> MonkeyDust, okay
[16:42] <Qantourisc> man init seems to indicate this should start a shutdown
[16:42] <Mandeep_Singh> jpds, can I then extract 'value' corresponding to that 'key'?
[16:42] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: Yes
[16:43] <jpds> Qantourisc: Better upgrade to kill dash nine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
[16:43] <Qantourisc> jpds: can't, i'm not sending the SIGTERM command
[16:43] <Mandeep_Singh> jpds, any hint regarding that? what may be used for that? grep or something
[16:44] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: echo "key: value" | tee example.txt
[16:44] <Fohlen> hey guys. I specifically want to create a user to install stuff via python-virtualenv and run a service with it, which location and settings would you recommend for that user?
[16:44] <Fohlen> disabled login and password?
[16:44] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: grep key file | awk '{print $2}'
[16:44] <Fohlen> should I use /home/ or /usr ?
[16:45] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: grep key example.txt | awk '{print $2}'
[16:45] <jpds> Mandeep_Singh: That is
[16:46] <Mandeep_Singh> jpds, thanks that will be more than enough :)
[17:03] <linocisco> is ubuntu community active?
[17:03] <linocisco> https://insights.ubuntu.com/category/e-books?topic=server
[17:03] <linocisco> above link work?
[17:04] <yecril71pl> Why is Thunderbird in 14.04 LTS at 31.8?
[17:04] <yecril71pl> Version 38 is current upstream.
[17:05] <Qantourisc> anyone willing to run kill -sSIGTERM 1 for me ?
[17:05] <OerHeks> !newest
[17:05] <Qantourisc> WARNING
[17:05] <Qantourisc> this will request a shutdown btw
[17:05] <OerHeks> Qantourisc, nobody will, why do you ask?
[17:05] <Qantourisc>   not working in lxc
[17:06] <OerHeks> Qantourisc, you might want to re-ask in #ubuntu-server
[17:06] <Qantourisc>  OerHeks thx for th tip
[17:07] <OerHeks> yecril71pl, vivid 15.04 still uses 31.8.0 too, with bugfixes.
[17:07] <linocisco> https://insights.ubuntu.com/category/e-books?topic=server is not working
[17:08] <OerHeks> linocisco, here too, that url does not exist ( anymore)
[17:08] <linocisco> OerHeks, oh. why?
[17:08] <minimec> linocisco: I agree...404: page not found. It's a dead link. 'topic' was deleted or moved?
[17:08] <OerHeks> linocisco, where did you get that old url ? not sure that url ever existed ..
[17:08] <linocisco> all sub items under https://insights.ubuntu.com/category/e-books are not working
[17:09] <linocisco> OerHeks, if it is ok, what is new URL or working URL to see updated ubuntu books?
[17:09] <linocisco> OerHeks, if it is old, what is new URL or working URL to see updated ubuntu books?
[17:10] <OerHeks> linocisco, you can search yourself, i didn't find any
[17:11] <OerHeks> linocisco, google learns me that that url https://insights.ubuntu.com/category/e-books never existed ??
[17:12] <OerHeks> so where did you get that url ?
[17:12] <linocisco> OerHeks, I have no idea. just google search showed
[17:13] <klauss> pwd
[17:13] <linocisco> OerHeks, sorry. I just browsed to www.ubuntu.com and typed in "book" inside search box
[17:13] <linocisco> OerHeks, and followed resulted links
[17:14] <RoosterJuice> hi there, my web server seems to have been exploited and my IP is being blocked for performing brute force login attacks... How can I fix this and remove any script that is causing this to happen?
[17:15] <minimec> linocisco: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/serverguide.pdf
[17:15] <minimec> linocisco: well... no ebook ...
[17:16] <OerHeks> linocisco, odd, tru ubuntu.com it indeed shows some items that are removed. maybe we should ask the webmaster to fix or remove these.
[17:17] <OerHeks> minimec +1 maybe those old books are now the serverguide
[17:18] <trijntje> RoosterJuice: blocked how?
[17:18] <RoosterJuice> blocklist.de
[17:19] <Village> Hello Guys, i want ask do i can turn off MySQL not removed it?
[17:20] <cattata1056> hi
[17:20] <trijntje> RoosterJuice: You should probably ask in #ubuntu-server, I don't have experience with that
[17:21] <RoosterJuice> thanks
[17:22] <Knight80> Hello everyone!
[17:22] <Knight80> How can I search a package that contains the files I specify?
[17:23] <Knight80> I mean, from the command line.
[17:23] <minimec> Village: manually: 'sudo service mysql stop' Permanently: open 'sudo service mysql' and put a '#' at the beginning of the line "start on ...". see 2nd answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/57381/how-to-stop-mysql-from-running-at-boot-time
[17:23] <minimec> Village: NEver did that, but it looks good.
[17:24] <minimec> Village: 'sudo nano /etc/init/mysql.conf', sorry.
[17:24] <Knight80> I'm new in Ubuntu and I can't make a python script work, will you please help me out?
[17:24] <Village> minimec, i will try, tank you man
[17:25] <Village> thank you*
[17:25] <Knight80> This is what I get by typing: python -m oscar -----> /usr/bin/python: No module named liblo; 'oscar' is a package and cannot be directly executed
[17:25] <minimec> Village: welcome.
[17:25] <Village> :)
[17:26] <ali_> hi
[17:26] <ali_> guys
[17:26] <ali_> i wanna install telegram sli
[17:26] <ali_> cli*
[17:26] <ali_> but i have an error
[17:26] <Village> minimec, and maybe you know how about phpmyadmin ?
[17:27] <ali_> configure: error: No openssl found
[17:27] <ali_> i install openssl
[17:27] <minimec> Village: I use it sometimes, but would not consider me 'knowing' it.
[17:27] <ali_> and apt-get says its installed
[17:27] <ali_> what should i do?
[17:28] <Village> maybe i just remove it and when i need it i will install it
[17:32] <ioria> !info libssl-dev
[17:33] <RejsenDan> Hello! I'm planning on installing ubuntu on a macbook pro... Has anyone experience with that and tell me if there are issues I should be careful about?
[17:34] <RejsenDan> I found this tutorial which looks quite nice and complete https://medium.com/@PhilPlckthun/ubuntu-14-10-running-on-my-macbook-18991a697ae0
[17:35] <daftykins> !mac | RejsenDan
[17:36] <daftykins> RejsenDan: well obviously 14.10 is dead already so don't install that :)
[17:36] <daftykins> and feel free to update the above wiki with results
[17:36] <RejsenDan> Dead already ? What do you mean ? :)
[17:37] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Just recognised something about ubuntu 15.04
[17:37] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I just recognised the name
[17:37] <sammyg> just stopping by to say hi... so hi! :-)
[17:37] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> And I never knew
[17:37] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> hi
[17:38] <xangua> !14.10  | RejsenDan
[17:38] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> He has not upgraded yet
[17:38] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> wow
[17:38] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> That is just
[17:38] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Wow
[17:39] <Knight80> I need help with a python script
[17:39] <kokut> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1: can u pick a nickname a lil bit more annoying?
[17:39] <kokut> Knight80: try #python?
[17:39] <Knight80> kokut Thank you
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> knight
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> What is wrong
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I can help
[17:40] <sammyg> hey when is ubuntu 15.10 coming out? and what are the news, i mean what else is knew beyond mir display server?
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> WHAT
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I didnt know anything about 15.10
[17:40] <xangua> !15.10 | sammyg
[17:40] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, I have no idea about python and I need to make a script work
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Sure
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Oh KOKUT
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Im on one of my linux servers
[17:40] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> sorry
[17:41] <sammyg> !15.10
[17:41] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I will get all my privilages removed from my account if I mess around
[17:41] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, This is what I get when I type "python -m oscar": /usr/bin/python: No module named liblo; 'oscar' is a package and cannot be directly executed
[17:41] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight88
[17:41] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Just give me 5 minutes
[17:41] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I will brb
[17:41] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, Ok, thank you
[17:42] <pitastrudl> hi
[17:43] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight88
[17:43] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> GIve me a second
[17:43] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, Ok
[17:43] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> One of our severs just crashed because of some malware and trojans
[17:43] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Never happened
[17:43] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, Sorry to hear that
[17:44] <darkdragon> hello
[17:44] <pitastrudl> im reinstalling ubuntu on my laptop which is dualbooted with windows 7. when i select the ubuntu partition and press install now, it says no root system is defined please correctr this from the partition menu. Do i have to select something in the menu that i open by double clicking on the selected partition
[17:44] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Probably another rootkit so I need to sort that out. Its quite common weirdly.
[17:44] <trijntje> pitastrudl: you have to tell the installer you want to use that partition as root ('/')
[17:47] <pitastrudl> i assume its like this http://i.imgur.com/UDHhoWy.jpg
[17:47] <pitastrudl> it wont touch the windows partitions?
[17:49] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I am back
[17:49] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, Did you fix it?
[17:50] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Yup
[17:50] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> ISh
[17:50] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Ok
[17:50] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight80 can you send me your script?
[17:50] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1 I downloaded it from ------> https://github.com/meznom/oscar
[17:51] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Ill check it out now
[17:51] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, Thank you very much indeed
[17:52] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, I have no idea about python, and I did "sudo python setup.py install"
[17:52] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight80
[17:52] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Go to your terminal
[17:52] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> or tty
[17:52] <Knight80> Ok, I'm there
[17:52] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Whatever you prefer
[17:52] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> and copy this
[17:52] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> sudo apt-get install python-pip python-cwiid python-bluez bluez
[17:53] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> After getting those packages try to run it agani
[17:53] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> again
[17:53] <Knight80> Ok, thanks again :)
[17:53] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Im going to try on my computer and if I get the error I will check the scripts
[17:54] <Knight80> great!
[17:54] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Did it work
[17:54] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> ?
[17:54] <Knight80> No, I haven't tried it yet
[17:54] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> ok
[17:55] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, /usr/bin/python: No module named liblo; 'oscar' is a package and cannot be directly executed
[17:55] <Pici> Knight80: you really should avoid installing python packages system wide like that. They can step on system packages, and vise versa.  Either install in a virtualenv or in your user's path.
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> If it doesnt I will attempt to fix the script and then I will post it to github (dont forget to fork if I do
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> )
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> OK
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> i will look @ the script
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Pici
[17:55] <Pici> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1: yes?
[17:55] <Knight80> ok
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> It wont
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Ive done that to all my machines
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Never had a problem
[17:55] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Any coding language
[17:56] <Pici> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1: Just because it can work doesn't mean that you should do it.
[17:56] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Should be dont
[17:56] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> DOne*
[17:56] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I need a new keyboard to plug into these servers
[17:56] <ioria> Knight80, i have no idea of what are you doing... but you can check if you have these packages liblo-dev   or python-liblo
[17:56] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Anyway knight80 im running the script now
[17:57] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, How did you do it?
[17:57] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Ok
[17:57] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight 80
[17:57] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Doesnt matter
[17:58] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> ioria has all ready said
[17:58] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I was going to say do you have the python-liblo package
[17:58] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, I'm going to check it out
[17:59] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, I didn't have it
[17:59] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Thats why
[17:59] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Credits to ioria too
[18:00] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Ran fine for me
[18:00] <Knight80> It works!
[18:00] <Knight80> Thank you both!
[18:00] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Welcome!
[18:00] <Knight80> Thank you very much
[18:00] <ioria> good
[18:00] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> What is oscar anyway?
[18:00] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Doesnt matter
[18:00] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> I can see here
[18:01] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1>  Testing
[18:01] <Knight80> It's a script to control a DAW with an iPad app
[18:01] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1>  Testing
[18:01] <Knight80> Or Android
[18:01] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Cool
[18:01] <bitcoinassassin> Forgive please a senior moment question: To create a "text box" in a pastebin (such as typing Code: followed by the code used/run which appears in a text box, of sorts). I used to know this but.... forgot. Thanks.
[18:02] <Pici> bitcoinassassin: in what context? Are you asking about html?
[18:02] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight80
[18:02] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Out of interest
[18:02] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> What audio workstation software are you using on your iPad?
[18:03] <Pici> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1: Could you avoid using enter so often, it makes the channel rather hard to read.  commas are free.
[18:03] <Knight80> Ardour and TouchOSC
[18:03] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Yeah
[18:03] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Cool
[18:03] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Good luck with what your doing, hope you complete it!
[18:03] <Knight80> I'm actually trying to control Ardour with TouchOSC
[18:03] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, Thanks :)
[18:03] <bitcoinassassin> Pici: Wow, I assume html. Just in a pastebin post - or in some forum threads - it involved "begin" and "end" but I cannot remember the exact formatting.
[18:04] <AnthonyUK> I am learning to set up a FTP through openssh-server, I can connect fine from one PC to another with filezilla, my trouble is I don't like users seeeing all sorts of files outside the home directory that I don't even know what they do. can I run "sudo chmod -R o-rwx /" or will that just screw up a load of programs and the entire system
[18:04] <AnthonyUK> in short I want to totally lock down my system especially for "others" lol
[18:04] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> AnthonyUK are you doing it locally on a network
[18:04] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> If you are doing it on 2 networks
[18:04] <Pici> bitcoinassassin: I'm not really sure what you're asking, but maybe #html would be a better place to ask.
[18:04] <bitcoinassassin> Pici: ok
[18:04] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> AnthonyUK
[18:05] <Pici> AnthonyUK: Do not run that, you will destroy your install.
[18:05] <AnthonyUK> at the moment yes, once I have it set up right there I will then have some friends test over the net, then change the ssh port from default and add ufw to restrict connection attempts
[18:05] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Doesnt matter
[18:05] <AnthonyUK> I won't Pici
[18:05] <AnthonyUK> thanks
[18:05] <daftykins> AnthonyUK: you want to chroot users ideally. pin them in their home path
[18:06] <AnthonyUK> thanks daftykins I'll look into chroot,
[18:06] <daftykins> something like scponly as a shell might work, i think there are others
[18:07] <daftykins> though the first query that comes to mind - is why give file access at all ;)
[18:07] <Pici> I think scponly is deprecated, iirc there is a parameter in the sshd_config that does this now.
[18:07] <AnthonyUK> I just want them to see their home folder, then I have a few folders in drives that are auto mounted in /mnt that I want them to be able to download from
[18:08] <daftykins> Pici: sounds good
[18:08] <AnthonyUK> Everything else I don't want them to see, read, execute even smell lol
[18:08] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Knight80
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> AnthonyUK  i havent followed, but it looks like lxc containers may be what you need
[18:09] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> Just interested in your little project with oscar and just to let you know that it actually also works with linux oscar as-well-as android and iOS I just tried it.
[18:09] <AnthonyUK> chroot is a jail lol, so I just have openssh run limited to only directory paths I choose?
[18:09] <AnthonyUK> thanks Monkeydust I'll look into lxc containers too
[18:12] <AnthonyUK> I'll take all your suggestions for limiting other, access, but now I've got an evil idea in my head I'll run sudo chmod -R o-rwx / just for a laugh. it's only a test system on a old PC
[18:13] <AnthonyUK> just wanna see what happens ! I'd never do this on my homeserver
[18:14] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, How?
[18:14] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, It doesn't work for me
[18:15] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, I mean, the script runs right
[18:15] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, But when I turn the volume up or down with the faders of TouchOSC, ardour doesn't recognise the movement.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1  could you please change your nickname to lowercase
[18:16] <KlausedSource_> when I ssh into my Ubuntu machine there are no colors (using gnome-terminal). How and where can I change this?
[18:17] <KlausedSource_> I tried several things but nothing seems to work, whats the "ubuntu way" of doing this?
[18:17] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: colors you mean when you run ls for instance?
[18:18] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, in shell output and promt, yes. there are none at all.
[18:19] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: that depends on your shell, and it's .rc file etc.
[18:19] <Knight80> BARTECHNOLOGY-S1, So, did it work for you?
[18:20] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, well I use out of the box Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS with bash
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> KlausedSource_  is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/194039/no-terminal-colors-in-ubuntu-server-12-04#194053
[18:21] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: type ls --color=auto do you get colors?
[18:21] <KlausedSource_> MonkeyDust, well ls --color does work
[18:21] <KlausedSource_> strange
[18:21] <KlausedSource_> so it's all about .bashrc i guess
[18:21] <EriC^^> it's set in .bashrc i think
[18:21] <EriC^^> (the alias)
[18:21] <EriC^^> type cp /etc/skel/.bashrc > ~
[18:22] <EriC^^> if you haven't modified your own
[18:22] <EriC^^> or copy the whole skel dir too if you want
[18:23] <KlausedSource_> what I don't understand is that on another machine the .bashrc is non existant and colours work anyways and I also have colored prompt (username and wd)
[18:23] <KlausedSource_> that's without ssh tho
[18:24] <EriC^^> cause you're using a different shell i guess
[18:24] <EriC^^> colored prompts sounds like tcsh
[18:24] <EriC^^> *puke*
[18:24] <EriC^^> :p
[18:24] <BARTECHNOLOGY-S1> #Server BARTECHNOLOGY-S1 information. ERROR 8817. [BAR TECHNOLOGY UK IRC INFORMATION ALERT-x 2.7.3]
[18:25] <AnthonyUK> Thanks for all your suggestions and quick responses everyone I'll go off and read into them now :), while my test machine reformats LOL
[18:30] <Village> Guys, how i can install tcl at ubuntu 14.
[18:30] <Village> Guys, how i can install tcl at ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:30] <OerHeks> Village, sudo apt-get install <package>
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> !find tcl
[18:31] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, http://c.1339.cf/pkovdpx.png
[18:31] <auronandace> !info tcl trusty
[18:32] <Village> But something wrong says taha i need install manualy or somethink.. - "tcl set to manually installed." or maybe it's installed with 14.04
[18:32] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, this is the machine I am sitting at
[18:32] <Village> OerHeks
[18:33] <Village> When i install eggdrop if it will needed then i write you
[18:33] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: that doesn't look ubuntu..
[18:33] <OerHeks> Village, use paste.ubuntu.com for the whole output please
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> Village  try apt -cache policy tcl ... does it say "installed"?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> Village  try apt-cache policy tcl ... does it say "installed"?
[18:33] <Village> OerHeks, i don't think so or it's now important, let me try it when i try install eggdrop
[18:34] <Village> MonkeyDust, yes installed, thanks, now i need i think so tcl-dev
[18:34] <Xeno> Have a problem with installing nvidia driver on Ubuntu 14.04 Every installing results in blackscreen, and I have to purge the driver in the recovery mode. Any ideas? Thanks for every idea.
[18:35] <daftykins> Xeno: what card?
[18:35] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: it must be using .bash_profile
[18:35] <OerHeks> Xeno, for what nvidiacard? lspci | grep VGA
[18:35] <daftykins> Xeno: share a pastebin on http://paste.ubuntu.com of "lspci"
[18:35] <Xeno> nvidia geforce 8600 gts. An older one, let's face it.
[18:35] <daftykins> oh wow that relic
[18:35] <willington> Hey, I just implemented normal maps (so beautiful: http://i.imgur.com/1MnYU5y.png ), but I just now notice how ugly everything gets in the distance. There's a lot of noise in the background, both by the textures as by the specular lighting it seems, but up close it looks fine. Any suggestions?
[18:35] <daftykins> Xeno: tried nvidia-304 ?
[18:36] <OerHeks> Xeno,  i have an ancient GeForce 8400, works fine with 304
[18:36] <daftykins> willington: OS support in here not dev support
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> willington  what is that? sure you're in the right channel?
[18:36] <OerHeks> Xeno, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # should install recommended drivers
[18:37] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, .bash_profile is also only having something in it that looks like default. comments say it starts .bashrc
[18:37] <misho_> Actually i used to have the same problem with a new nvidia card
[18:37] <Xeno> I have posted the result of lspci -nnk | grep "VGA\|'Kern'\|3D\|Display" -A2 with pastebin as recommende.
[18:37] <misho_> but not any more
[18:38] <daftykins> Xeno: you need to link it.
[18:38] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: yeah, could be /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile
[18:38] <Xeno> I have tested 304 too. Same result (blackscreen, cursor only remains after reboot)
[18:38] <Xeno> Oh sorry, moment...
[18:38] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, actually /etc/profile looks promising
[18:38] <Xeno> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12057189/
[18:39] <EriC^^> KlausedSource_: which distro is that?
[18:39] <Xeno> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall I did not test till now. Thanks for the hint.
[18:40] <misho_> Xeno, in Linux you can choose from several drivers from one graphical app
[18:40] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, gentoo
[18:40] <EriC^^> oh ok
[18:40] <Xeth> evening
[18:40] <misho_> By default it is open-source driver
[18:40] <manuel__> h
[18:41] <KlausedSource_> EriC^^, ah found some nice section in /etc/bash/bashrc maybe you want to use it too...https://bpaste.net/show/dc8b3a50971b
[18:41] <Xeno> Yes I know default is the nouveau driver, the only one working till now
[18:42] <willington> monkeydust: oops! I normally chill on ##opengl, but xchat automatically opens #ubuntu as well. I was already curious about all the linux talk hahaha :)
[18:42] <misho_> you can risk with something other from the list
[18:42] <daftykins> Xeno: ensure you have no traces of packages named "bumblebee" on and purge all traces of nvidia packages before trying again. so "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* bumbleb* " followed by "sudo apt-get clean"
[18:42] <Xeth> wat you guys talking about?
[18:42] <willington> And it was also slightly about display drivers... so I didn't even consider I was on the wrong channel.
[18:43] <OerHeks> Xeth, see the topic
[18:43] <manuel__> alguien de México
[18:43] <Xeno> Yes I did test the 340 and 304, both installed by the nvidia GUI of Ubuntu ("additional drivers", and manually sudo apt-get install nvidia-340. Both did not work.
[18:44] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | Xeno i didnt have to use it, maybe it solves yours ..
[18:44] <Xeno> I never had bumblebee, it's a new installtion
[18:44] <Xeth> @OerHeks i see the topic as ubuntu, am i wrong? i meant what you talking about ubuntu?
[18:44] <Xeno> I always cleaned all for a ne try, mwns sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:44] <daftykins> Xeno: well that's good, but it certainly doesn't hurt to check.
[18:44] <OerHeks> Xeth, yes, ubuntu support.
[18:44] <Xeno> After that the nouveau driver automatically was there.
[18:45] <Xeth> ah ooops my bad :p
[18:48] <Xeno> I did the purge order, there were nothing o uninstall, as I assumed.
[18:48] <cain-pol> hey, my friend recently hit me offline is their anychance i could hit him offline
[18:49] <Xeno> nomodeset schould not been needed with an inten i3 cpu I think. it's a desktop system, not a notebook or like that.
[18:49] <daftykins> cain-pol: inappropriate chat for here, please go elsewhere.
[18:49] <daftykins> cain-pol: more than likely you just got fooled into believing :)
[18:49] <OerHeks> Xeno, how about your bios, any IRQ setting mishap?
[18:49] <cain-pol> where would tha somewhere else be?
[18:49] <daftykins> cain-pol: anywhere but here.
[18:50] <Xeno> it's a bios from 2011. No idea what irq could be?
[18:50] <Dorf> got a question.  i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 10 but the grub menu entry for windows sends me to a repair screen
[18:50] <OerHeks> Xeno, don't know either, it is worth a look, checking options in your bios
[18:50] <Dorf> however, when i change the bios to the window boot it works fine
[18:50] <Dorf> any ideas what might be causing this?
[18:50] <Xeno> oky, irq should be disabled or enbaled if existing?
[18:51] <wolfieorama> hi guys, I am getting an error anytime i try to run the 'make' command on my ubuntu 14.04 64 bit -- "[modules] Error 2" kindly assist
[18:51] <cain-pol> ?
[18:51] <ioria> Xeno did you run nvidia-xconfig  ?  sometimes X it's not configured to use nvidia
[18:51] <OerHeks> Xeno, if it is an older mobo, irq set to auto should be fine, also check graphics onloard/adapter
[18:51] <OerHeks> *onboard
[18:52] <Xeno> I never used nvidia-xconfig on thy system, is that installed even without driver?
[18:52] <daftykins> no
[18:52] <daftykins> you wouldn't need it without the driver on
[18:52] <ioria> Xeno no, after  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:53] <ioria> Xeno see troubleshooting
[18:53] <bob3247> ubuntu 14.04 - i want to install an older kernel 3.13.0-44-generic to test something - q to anyone - how do i do this please?
[18:53] <daftykins> bob3247: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic
[18:54] <cain-pol> my friend recently hit me offline is their anychance i could hit him offline
[18:54] <EriC^^> hit you offline?
[18:54] <Xeno> Yes I see thanks.
[18:54] <EriC^^> oh, sent you a msg to your nick?
[18:54] <EriC^^> just scrolled back
[18:55] <daftykins> cain-pol: i already told you to take that elsewhere. LEAVE.
[18:56] <wolfieorama> help guys errors on make command version 14.04
[18:56] <bob3247> daftykins, doint it now thx, odd that google gave me other more complex suggestions, i was sure there had to be some one liner like you posted, lets hope it does the trick
[18:58] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, errors give a clue, use paste.ubuntu.com to post that error
[18:58] <daftykins> bob3247: well as long as the packages are available it should be fine. use "apt-cache search linux-image-3.13.0" to hunt for those available
[18:58] <bpsizemore> hi all, I'm trying to make a custom splash screen for my own custom distro of ubuntu to run on a livecd. I have my image in a .png format but I don't know how to modify the syslinux.txt and syslinux.cfg to show the splash
[18:58] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, and give some info about what you are building please
[19:00] <loooooool> i've recently been  hit me offline is their anychance i could hit him offline
[19:00] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, i am trying to install an edimax wifi adapter
[19:00] <OerHeks> loooooool, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support
[19:00] <bob3247> daftykins, cheers, its downloading now so i expect it will be fine, seeing if rolling back kernel fixes a touchpad bug that worked for someone
[19:01] <loooooool> OerHerks, any other channel i can i join?
[19:01] <OerHeks> !alis
[19:02] <boldfilter1> ping IdleOne
[19:03] <loooooool> ?
[19:06] <rocklobster> Somebody please help!? I can not seem to change the brightness on my screen. HP Pavilion g6 running xubuntu 14.04.
[19:07] <OneM_Industries> Anyone know of a good SMART reporting tool that gives detailed info?
[19:07] <bekks> smartctl
[19:08] <OerHeks> S.M.A.R.T. is standard utility in disks AFAIK
[19:08] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[19:08] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, is that sufficient info ?
[19:08] <loooooool> is their anyway i  cant reinstall/download windows 7?
[19:09] <OneM_Industries> No, I need to be able to look at the disk.
[19:09] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, i didn't see the error log
[19:09] <OerHeks> loooooool, sure, ask in ##windows
[19:09] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, there you go  make: *** /lib/modules/3.16.0-031600-lowlatency/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[19:09] <wolfieorama> make: *** [LINUX] Error 2
[19:09] <loooooool> okay thanks.
[19:10] <k1l_> loooooool: this channel is about technical ubuntu support only. if you need to find other channels and need help ask in #freenode .
[19:10] <frostie> what has happen with the wine ppa? there seem to be no new wine versions there anymore? i have to run wine-staging ppa to get new wine versions for now
[19:10] <OneM_Industries> I have a drive that is making funny noises and is acting oddly.
[19:10] <potato_farmer> rocklobster, try adding acpi_backlight=vendor for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[19:10] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, what guide are you following?
[19:10] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[19:10] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: assuming /dev/sda is the one you want to check.
[19:11] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, i am following this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/509498/is-there-a-standard-wifi-driver-for-the-edimax-ew-7811un
[19:11] <pitastrudl> freshly installed ubuntu
[19:11] <pitastrudl> feelsgoodman
[19:12] <rocklobster> potato_farmer, I'm kind of a noob. Is that a text file?
[19:12] <MeatPopsical> how do I open a .sh script in terminal? tried chmod -x /file then running it but it didnt work
[19:12] <boldfilter1> wow, ubuntu isn't top room anymore
[19:12] <OneM_Industries> Uh oh.
[19:12] <k1l_> boldfilter1: please stick to technical ubuntu support only in here. (you know the guidelines)
[19:12] <SoundAxis> MeatPopsical did you /file or ./file
[19:12] <OneM_Industries> I looked at the smart data for my main HDD, noticed some rather odd things.
[19:13] <csmule> Any admins have the headache of mtu problems? CUrious why if my client is set for 9001 mtu and my server is 1500 I get hanging, but changing the server to 1300 and it works fine.
[19:13] <OneM_Industries> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
[19:13] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: run the commands i suggested and paste the link.
[19:13] <OneM_Industries> Ok, going.
[19:13] <MeatPopsical> SoundAxis / file
[19:14] <OneM_Industries> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12057372/
[19:14] <mcphail> MeatPopsical: chmod -x will _remove_ execute permissions. You need chmod +x
[19:14] <OneM_Industries> I am worried about values 1, 2, and 5.
[19:15] <rocklobster> potato_farmer can you PM me?
[19:15] <OneM_Industries> Pre_Fail sounds bad.
[19:15] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: there is no 2, and those fields have 0 - so nothing is wrong.
[19:15] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
[19:15] <mustmodify> Am I correct in understanding that I can copy hashes in /etc/shadow from one machine to another, but that for the same username and password combination there may be more than one possible hash?
[19:15] <frostie> but wine-staging works fine, but no one seem to maintain the regular wine ppa for ubuntu?
[19:15] <OneM_Industries> Well, misread that then.
[19:15] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: run "dmesg" and see if you have any errors relating to reading/writing to/from that disk.
[19:16] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, picked up anything from the error ?
[19:16] <designbybeck> I'd like to set a few windows to "Always on Visible Workspace" each time I open them, how might I do that?
[19:16] <OerHeks> wolfieorama, this guide has a green sign, so worth to try http://askubuntu.com/questions/551522/netis-wf2120-wifi-adapter-drops-signal-within-seconds/551648#551648
[19:17] <OerHeks> maybe you have no 'headers' installed, not sure about that
[19:17] <OneM_Industries> Not really seeing anything.
[19:17] <OneM_Industries> Was worried for a sec, my entire life is on that drive basically.
[19:18] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: then let this be your scare into setting up a proper backup. hard disks are NOT reliable :)
[19:18] <daftykins> buy another one _today_
[19:18] <wolfieorama> OerHeks, checking
[19:18] <OneM_Industries> Sadly, not in charge of that, and my parents will complain "But...but...money...."
[19:19] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: time to get a job then.
[19:19] <OneM_Industries> No, I have money saved up, they just don't like spending on computer parts.
[19:19] <daftykins> right but you do it, not them...
[19:19] <vrkansagara> my shift key work As shift And spacebar why ?
[19:20] <daftykins> anyway your domestic finances are off topic :)
[19:21] <mustmodify> Am I correct in understanding that I can copy hashes in /etc/shadow from one machine to another, but that for the same username and password combination there may be more than one possible hash?
[19:21] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, they are. Any recommendations on HDD manufacturers to stay away from/go to?
[19:21] <unloading> Hi , im trying to change my keyboard-layout on ubuntu server. Tried dkpg-reconfigure thing / loadkeys be  , and in /etc/default/keyboard my layout seems to be right. But still i'm having the wrong layout in console.
[19:22] <vrkansagara> unloading:  having issue with keybord
[19:23] <unloading> vrkansagara: is it possible , that this is the fault of webbased vps console ?
[19:23] <vrkansagara> my shift and spacebar work same  (xmapmode code is 65 space 62 Shift_R)
[19:24] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: not really relevant to an OS support channel. Seagate are definitely the worst, i go WD for warranty.
[19:24] <vrkansagara> unloading: i am using laptopn So i dont think so
[19:25]  * OerHeks thinks Seagate is fine, low fallout
[19:25] <unloading> vrkansagara: oh you are having problems with your keyboard or what ? Im confused now ...
[19:25] <vrkansagara> unloading: having prob with keyboard
[19:26] <wolfieorama_> OerHeks, no success either
[19:26] <vrkansagara> unloading: have any Solution for Me
[19:27] <unloading> vrkansagara: Whats the problem ? Wrong layout , is it broken :p or ???
[19:27] <aktx> kappa
[19:27] <OerHeks> wolfieorama_, sorry to hear that, seems to be a lot of issues with that edimax chip
[19:28] <wolfieorama_> OerHeks, edimax and lenovo G series
[19:28] <vrkansagara> unloading: layout is ok And Key map is also ok but can find that why my two switches working same code on It like once i press spacebar it also work as right shift+spacebar and vis-versa
[19:28] <wolfieorama_> OerHeks, feeling very frustrated, what other solutions is available for realtek driver :(
[19:29] <OerHeks> wolfieorama_, that url was the best shot i could find
[19:31] <vrkansagara> 65 space
[19:31] <vrkansagara> 62 Shift_R any idea about these two key?
[19:31] <wolfieorama_> OerHeks, see the error i am getting now Error! DKMS tree already contains: 8192cu-1.10
[19:31] <wolfieorama_> You cannot add the same module/version combo more than once.
[19:31] <unloading> vrkansagara: sorry man , i dont think i can help you with that. Gonna figure out my problem first :p
[19:32] <vrkansagara> unloading: what your problem !
[19:35] <wolfieorama_> OerHeks, see my new error up the chat
[19:35] <unloading> vrkansagara: My layout is wrong and i cant fix it
[19:37] <N0ble> Looks pretty dead at the moment
[19:38] <ntaxid> hello, I was just wondering if there are ways to view the logs that were created after apt-get actions?
[19:38] <sad> hi
[19:38] <daftykins> apt has a history.log
[19:38] <tgm4883> ntaxid: /var/log/apt/
[19:38] <tgm4883> ntaxid: logs files in that directory
[19:39] <ioria2_> wolfieorama_ with this i have no problem in compiling ... https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
[19:39] <sad> dutch people on board ?
[19:39] <ntaxid> tgm4883: Thanks. I will look it up.
[19:39] <DJones> sad: #ubuntu-nl is the main channel for support in dutch language
[19:40] <DJones> Probably find plenty of people there
[19:40] <sad> i cant find answer there
[19:40] <MeatPopsical> anyone have a requested torrent not authorized with this tracker error on transmission?
[19:40] <vrkansagara> unloading: why?
[19:40] <daftykins> sad: so ask a question
[19:40] <ntaxid> tgm4883: Ok, nice. :) Thanks again.
[19:40] <sad> a publiec key by of for synaptic
[19:41] <daftykins> MeatPopsical: sounds like you have multiple trackers and need to remove one - oh and to possibly not get shifty content ;)
[19:41] <MeatPopsical> daftykins they are ubuntu torrents for LTS lol
[19:42] <MeatPopsical> for some reason some work and some dont idk -____-
[19:42] <tgm4883> MeatPopsical: where did you get the torrent file?
[19:43] <MeatPopsical> tgm4483 from the ubuntu torrent lists, the past releases and other flavors part
[19:43] <gl3am> re
[19:44] <gl3am> Please help me, and fund the campaign: http://igg.me/at/safe-social-network/x/10854263
[19:44] <tgm4883> gl3am: don't post that crap here
[19:46] <MeatPopsical> safe social media.... not really possible since the point of it is putting info out there
[19:46] <chrisn_> so I added a user to a group with   usermod -G sftpusers administrator (adding the administrator user to the sftpusers group) -- and when i went to log back into the server it said the user was no longer part of the sudoers group
[19:47] <chrisn_> would appending a group cause a user to get removed from sudoers?
[19:47] <Gallomimia> chrisn_: sounds like you might have used the wrong command for that and done just so
[19:48] <tgm4883> chrisn_: yea, that's the wrong command
[19:48] <zykotick9> chrisn_: BUT, did you use -a for append?  if not, they they are only in one group now!  i'd suggest against using usermod... YMMV
[19:48] <tgm4883> chrisn_: you missed the -a
[19:48] <zykotick9> s/they they/then they/
[19:49] <chrisn_> smh
[19:50] <Gallomimia> ummm. so how to get access to admin commands again so as to re-add to sudoers group?
[19:50] <tgm4883> !recovery
[19:50] <tgm4883> Gallomimia: boot into recovery mode and fix it
[19:51] <eipi10> .
[19:51] <chrisn_> has usermod -G *never* appended the group?  i seem to remember it did when i was working with servers regularly a few years ago
[19:52] <chrisn_> maybe it was aliased somehow though
[19:52] <tgm4883> chrisn_: I'm going to say probably not, but I'm not looking through years of source code to verify
[19:52] <eipi10> hello
[19:52] <daftykins> eipi10: hi, do you have a support question?
[19:52] <eipi10> uhh, yeah
[19:53] <eipi10> kinda
[19:53] <tgm4883> !enter
[19:53] <daftykins> eipi10: well tip #1 is press enter less please.
[19:53] <tgm4883> !punctuation
[19:53] <eipi10> oh, sorry!
[19:53] <eipi10> I was doin this nickserve thingy
[19:53] <pitastrudl> any idea which package of skype to install here http://i.imgur.com/qhfmQiN.png for ubuntu 14:04 64bit
[19:53] <pitastrudl> multiarch?
[19:53] <daftykins> eipi10: ok so that's not #ubuntu support but freenode support, ask in #freenode
[19:54] <k1l_> pitastrudl: multiarch.
[19:54] <pitastrudl> ok thanks
[19:54] <eipi10> oh, I was trying to register my name
[19:54] <daftykins> eipi10: yeah so ask them - that's off topic here :)
[19:55] <eipi10> do you have an opinion of a safe, light browser?
[19:55] <lert> My computer isn't booting from my bootable usb. The usb is 32-bit 14.04.02, and it works fine on my other computer. I've tried using the boot menu and switching around the boot order so that removable drives boot first. Is there anything I'm doing wrong, or does this computer just refuse to boot to anything but windows vista?
[19:56] <eipi10> or do I have to go to a browser channel to get 2 cents?
[19:56] <eipi10> in ebonics, that would be equivalent to 2 scrent
[19:58] <eipi10> I didn't mean to piss y'all off earlier.  I am totally new to IRC.
[19:58] <eipi10> so, adios
[20:00] <nopf> so how to edit pdfs in "current" ubuntu versions (drawing boxes and such)? alternatives to pdfedit, which is no more in the repositories?
[20:03] <lert> Nobody's going to answer my question, are they?
[20:04] <MikeAndIke> How do i get the pipelight plugin in firefox to stop crashing when on xat?
[20:11] <Dorf> is there anything built to make the keyboard on ubuntu function more like a mac?
[20:11] <k1l_> Dorf: can you explain what you mean?
[20:11] <bekks> Dorf: What would make a keyboard function "more like a mac"?
[20:11] <Dorf> the shortcuts honestly
[20:12] <Dorf> my biggest complaint is not being able to paste into terminal with a keyboard shortcyt
[20:12] <k1l_> Dorf: hold the "super" key to get the list of shortcuts
[20:12] <Dorf> *shortcut
[20:12] <k1l_> Dorf: pasting is "shift+ctrl+v"
[20:12] <EriC^^> Dorf: shift+ctrl+v to paste
[20:12] <Dorf> well that's good to know
[20:12] <Dorf> thank you
[20:12] <EriC^^> or middle mouse if you highlighted it only
[20:13] <carpediembaby> Hello. I am on 14.04 and the wifi was getting disconnected. I tried resetting the wifi by: ifconfig wlan0 down / up but it fails saying "error whole getting interface flags: no such device"
[20:13] <Dorf> trying not to leave the keyboard
[20:13] <carpediembaby> A restart didn't help either...
[20:13] <EriC^^> shift+insert then
[20:13] <carpediembaby> Any ideas?
[20:13] <ikonia> carpediembaby: have you looked if there is an interface called wlan0 ?
[20:14] <carpediembaby> ikonia: how do I look for that?
[20:15] <ikonia> if you don't know the device name, why are you trying to down it
[20:15] <ikonia> you shouldn't just be doing random things,
[20:15] <ikonia> talk to someone in here and ask the channel to help work through your problem rather than blindly typing commands
[20:15] <carpediembaby> ikonia: I knew rahe device name from the output of ifconfig. I was able to down it. But now ifconfig up doesn't work.
[20:16] <MikeAndIke> Is Gnash a good alt to flash player?
[20:16] <ikonia> carpediembaby: I doubt you're able to down it if the device doesn't exist
[20:16] <ikonia> MikeAndIke: no
[20:16] <k1l_> MikeAndIke: not really. flash needs to die, really
[20:17] <MikeAndIke> k1l_ and ikonia i really need flash player though.. For games like Adventure quest, xat chats online, and other games i play :)
[20:18] <daftykins> carpediembaby: what does "ifconfig -a" report? or preferably, "ip a" ?
[20:18] <carpediembaby> ikonia: what do you mean it doesn't exist. It was there in ifconfig. Then the connection dropped and I tried to drop/up the interface . It failed on the up command so I restarted the computer.
[20:18] <MeatPopsical> do you guys use 14.04 or 15.04? also why?
[20:18] <ikonia> carpediembaby: you just said you got the error "no such device"
[20:19] <k1l_> MikeAndIke: see pepperflashplugin-nonfree  or adobe-flashplugin
[20:19] <k1l_> MeatPopsical: its your choice. do you want to upgrade every 6 months?
[20:19] <carpediembaby> daftykins: now, it only reports loopback as the output. I'm unable to paste the output since the device doesn't have Internet anymore.  (I'm on a phone)
[20:20] <ikonia> hence "no such device"
[20:20] <daftykins> carpediembaby: yeah so have you inadvertently flicked a wireless on/off switch?
[20:20] <daftykins> carpediembaby: if it's an internal card, does lspci still show it?
[20:21] <daftykins> (the wireless device)
[20:21] <carpediembaby> ikonia: I also said that I restarted after I was unable to fix it with ifconfig down/up. Restarting fixes the problem but apparently now it's not getting fixed.
[20:22] <carpediembaby> daftykins: lspci shows a network controller Intel 7260 (Rev 6b) and there is no physical switch on this laptop
[20:25] <daftykins> carpediembaby: "sudo modprobe iwlwifi" then repeat "ifconfig -a" and see if an interface returned
[20:25] <carpediembaby> ikonia: daftykins: before the restart, for ifconfig wlan0 up, I got an error something like connection timed out and some message related to setting gflags which I don't recall
[20:27] <carpediembaby> daftykins: yes the interface returned!
[20:27] <daftykins> so it almost sounds like your interface down command somehow unloaded iwlwifi
[20:27] <carpediembaby> Though it still doesn't connect to the network
[20:27] <daftykins> it won't until you restart network-manager
[20:27] <MikeAndIke> daftykins after i installed Ubuntu i don't get the freeze up at all that i was having
[20:28] <MikeAndIke> Everything is like 2x as fast as it was on usb and bootup takes no time at all :D
[20:28] <daftykins> MikeAndIke: i don't recall this situation at all, sorry
[20:28] <daftykins> refresh my memory?
[20:28] <k1l_> MikeAndIke: that is no wonder.
[20:29] <MikeAndIke> daftykins you don't remember talking to me the other day here when i was uisng "helpmeubuntu" nick lol
[20:29] <daftykins> i help a lot of people, the nicks turn into a blur
[20:29] <carpediembaby> daftykins: I already tried that. I've been looking for a solution for this and was trying ifconfig thing for this too. Once the connection drops, it never reconnects unless I restart the computer
[20:29] <MikeAndIke> I'm on the freenode webchat atm but which would you guys recommend for IRC client out of xChat and Hexchat?
[20:29] <daftykins> carpediembaby: version of ubuntu? desktop?
[20:29] <k1l_> MikeAndIke: start with hexchat
[20:29] <daftykins> MikeAndIke: hexchat should be fine
[20:30] <carpediembaby> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04 and the computer is lenovo yoga pro 2 if that's what you mean by desktop
[20:30] <daftykins> carpediembaby: no desktop environment, so presumably unity standard there
[20:31] <daftykins> carpediembaby: are you fully up to date? which kernel?
[20:31] <carpediembaby> daftykins: ah, yes. Unity.
[20:31] <carpediembaby> I should be up to date or maybe a few days old
[20:31] <daftykins> "uname -r" for current kernel
[20:32] <carpediembaby> daftykins: kernel is 3.16 0-45-generic
[20:35] <daftykins> carpediembaby: ok, so you might consider upgrading to the vivid HWE (hardware enablement stack) which uses the 3.19 kernel - i think that'll provide a newer intel driver which might play ball better, tough to say
[20:35] <daftykins> otherwise maybe do a quick hunt for intel wireless bugs for your model card
[20:35] <huschke> hello to all...can somebody help me ?  i have installed lubuntu and in my login screen  i can choose between lubuntu desktop version and lubuntu notebook version...how can i completly remove lubuntu notebook desktop enviroment ???
[20:36] <k1l_> huschke: what ubuntu version is that?
[20:36] <huschke> its lubuntu 15.04
[20:37] <huschke> i cant find lubuntu irc chat
 its lubuntu 15.04
[20:37] <carpediembaby_> daftykins: Is this a good? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds#Installing_upstream_kernels
[20:38] <huschke> k1l_ : i dont like multiple login screens.. i only want to remove the lubuntu notebook desktop enviroment
[20:39] <bprompt> huschke:     I assume the lubuntu-notebook or such, would be a package in the package manager, Synaptics, or software center, that you could remove
[20:40] <daftykins> carpediembaby_: no you don't install mainline kernels - look up how to get the vivid HWE enabled on your system
[20:40] <k1l_> huschke: do you mean the "netbook" session?
[20:40] <huschke> bprompt: thx man..
[20:41] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid | carpediembaby_
[20:41] <k1l_> huschke: is that a netbook?
[20:41] <bprompt> huschke:    you could give a whirl to ->  dpkg -l | grep lubuntu | grep note  <--- to check for any
[20:41] <huschke> k1l_ : yes
[20:41] <daftykins> ugh fail
[20:41] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid trusty | carpediembaby_
[20:42] <huschke> bprompt: cool..thx ..i will ttake a look..sorry iam newbie
[20:42] <huschke> some otgher question. lubuntu shows me 1 bad sektor from hdd but badblocks didnt found anything bad ..whats that ???
[20:43] <carpediembaby_> daftykins: so i should just install this package and give it a go?
[20:43] <daftykins> huschke: sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[20:43] <daftykins> huschke: run the above and paste the link it produces
[20:43] <daftykins> huschke: don't run badblocks :)
[20:44] <daftykins> carpediembaby_: yeah, i think to get the proper HWE you need to install with dependencies though
[20:44] <carpediembaby_> daftykins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack maybe?
[20:45] <daftykins> carpediembaby_: yep that's the one
[20:45] <k1l_> huschke: seems that sessions come with the lubuntu-default-session package. you could try to remove the entries in /usr/share/xsessions/ if you dont like them beeing in that menu
[20:46] <huschke> k1l_: ok i will take a look in that folder
[20:46] <huschke> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12057842/
[20:47] <mustmodify> Am I correct in understanding that I can copy hashes in /etc/shadow from one machine to another, but that for the same username and password combination there may be more than one possible hash?
[20:47] <daftykins> huschke: yep, it's not necessarily a risk yet - but i personally would replace that drive :)
[20:48] <daftykins> huschke: write that command down, "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" because things could get worse. there may be more bad sectors that your drive hasn't found yet, if you encounter freezes you'll probably be hitting them
[20:48] <carpediembaby_> daftykins: great, thanks! Ill try if this works any better
[20:49] <huschke> daftykins: my english is not so good..i forgot many vocabular..i am from germany
[20:49] <huschke> what you mean with encounter
[20:50] <daftykins> huschke: oh actually look at line 67, hardware ECC errors are high - i think bad times are coming
[20:50] <huschke> did my hdd have a bad sector ?? i didnt understand the textfile
[20:50] <huschke> ooh
[20:50] <Xeno> @huschke: here it means: erleben, erfahren
[20:50] <daftykins> huschke: yes, look at lines 55 and 68 - 1 bad sector got remapped
[20:50] <k1l_> basically the check says: your disk is starting to fail.
[20:50] <huschke> xeno..lach
[20:50] <Xeno> lol
[20:50] <daftykins> huschke: i'd backup and replace that disk immediately
[20:51] <huschke> daftykins: i have wotrked with gparted last days
[20:51] <daftykins> huschke: and?
[20:51] <nopf> so how to edit pdfs in "current" ubuntu versions (drawing boxes and such)? alternatives to pdfedit, which is no more in the repositories?
[20:51] <huschke> can it be error because of wrong partitioning
[20:51] <daftykins> huschke: no, it is physically failing - it is a dying disk
[20:51] <huschke> puuuhhhh
[20:52] <huschke> last month i had windwos installed and after formatting drive the error was gone
[20:53] <Ioyrie> did you check if your drive is smaller after reformatting?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> Ioyrie: Drives don't change their reported size.
[20:54] <daftykins> Ioyrie: that's not how it works :)
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[20:59] <eipi10> so is Pigeon a chat client like chatzilla?
[20:59] <eipi10> is this the same #ubuntu that's on freenode?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> eipi10  doesnt exist in trusty or vivid
[21:00] <SpeccyMan> no but pidgin is
[21:00] <k1l_> eipi10: this is #ubuntu on freenode
[21:00] <Jordan_U> huschke: Often writing to a "bad block" can fix it, either by overwriting the same physical block (if the hardware wasn't damaged, but maybe a power failure caused a partial write), or by causing that sector to be remapped so that data for that logical block will be stored elsewhere (in the pool of extra sectors that drives keep for this purpose), and the physically unusable sector will simply no longer be used by the drive.
[21:06] <Village> i got "package require tls" so what i need install?
[21:10] <k1l_> !info tcl-tls
[21:11] <pitastrudl> does anyone know of a good unity dark theme for ubuntu 14.04
[21:11] <pitastrudl> prefferably flat styled
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> !themes | pitastrudl start here
[21:11] <pitastrudl> ahh
[21:11] <pitastrudl> nice ty
[21:12] <t7> hello all
[21:12] <t7> i would like to roll back firefox to 39
[21:12] <t7> is it possible?
[21:12] <finetundra__> hey guys, I'd like to move programs to my ti 84 plus silver edition but I've heard that there may be issues. So, how should I go about this?
[21:13] <k1l_> t7: why that? there are no security backports so that is not the best idea
[21:13] <Village> work k1l_, thanks
[21:13] <t7> k1l_: a vital addon
[21:13] <t7> that now isnt working
[21:13] <t7> it should be fixed in a few days
[21:13] <k1l_> t7: best is to tell the addon maker
[21:13] <t7> then i can upgrade
[21:13] <t7> k1l_: so not possible?
[21:13] <tgm4883> a vital addon?
[21:14] <t7> popup dictionary
[21:14] <t7> im studying very hard
[21:14] <tgm4883> that's.... no vital
[21:14] <Jordan_U> t7: There is a known serious vulnerability in Firefox that could allow any site to steal any of your files.
[21:14] <t7> yeah but i had 39.03 or whatever before
[21:14] <t7> so it was patched
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> tgm4883  your parents got their grades without that addon
[21:16] <Mike9863> Whenever I plug my Android device into my laptop via USB, Nautilus opens a bunch of windows and I get dozens of MTP error messages. How can I disable this device from trying to mount because it's clear the laptop can't handle it correctly.
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> t7  ^^^
[21:16] <t7> thankyou for pointing out errors in my grammar
[21:17] <t7> this has been a very helpful experience
[21:17] <k1l_> t7: you can install a version with apt  if that version is still on the servers
[21:18] <k1l_> t7: but this is, like we already said several times now, not the best option since there is no security patch backports on that firefox package.
[21:19] <tony_> I need help. My ubuntu 15.04 has stopped appearing after I try to log on. All I get is a white screen.
[21:19] <t7> k1l_: thanks
[21:26] <vonStrauss> hello
[21:26] <vonStrauss> if i am burning an iso to usb for a live usb,
[21:26] <vonStrauss> can i use the restore disk image tool
[21:27] <vonStrauss> will that do that for me
[21:27] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> Woo
[21:27] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> Guys remember me
[21:27] <vonStrauss> i van't get unetbootin up
[21:27] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> Wha
[21:27] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> Wut u need about unetbootin
[21:27] <vonStrauss> hello
[21:27] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> Hi
[21:27] <k1l_> vonStrauss: what OS are you on now?
[21:27] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> What's up with unet?
[21:28] <vonStrauss> k1l_, ubuntu
[21:28] <k1l_> BARTECHNOLOGYSRV: calm down please.
[21:28] <k1l_> vonStrauss: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[21:28] <vonStrauss> thnks k1l_
[21:28] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> 1st thing
[21:28] <vonStrauss> but will the restore disk image tool also work
[21:28] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> im not angry
[21:28] <vonStrauss> since i'm already on that window :P
[21:28] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> I just got access to server 2
[21:28] <k1l_> vonStrauss: i dont know what that tool is
[21:29] <r0000t> Anyone have experience with getting the game RIFT to run on Wine/Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:29] <vonStrauss> okay. well i'll try it and if it doesn'twork , i'll just wipe and do what you said
[21:29] <Johnny_Linux> do you really need that big if a nick ?
[21:30] <vonStrauss> thsnk you anyway k1l_
[21:30] <k1l_> r0000t: for questions about wine better ask the wine specialists:
[21:30] <k1l_> !wine | r0000t
[21:30] <r0000t> kll_:  that was my next stop
[21:31] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> Hey why did I get disconnected?
[21:31] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> k1l
[21:31] <k1l_> BARTECHNOLOGYSRV: because you closes the client. but please keep this channel clear for real ubuntu support.
[21:31] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> I didnt close the client
[21:32] <BARTECHNOLOGYSRV> hello_world
[21:32] <k1l_> BARTECHNOLOGYSRV: you might want to join ##chat for your talking
[21:33]  * genii slides k1l_ some tasty cookies
[21:35] <finetundra__> genii: can I have cookies too?
[21:42] <marus> hello, i want to make a bootable windows7.iso in usb under ubuntu, but i don't have success with usb disk creator and sudo dd bs=4M if=windows7.iso of=/dev/sdb1
[21:42] <marus> any effective way to make this bootable usb?
[21:42] <EriC^^> marus: that won't work
[21:42] <k1l_> marus: i dont think that works with windows isos. ask the windows guys how to get a working one
[21:42] <Jordan_U> marus: WinUSB is a tool for this purpose, but if it doesn't work we can't help you beyond that here.
[21:43] <marus> Jordan_U: so ubuntu doesn't have a tool to do that?
[21:43] <marus> unetboot also..?
[21:43] <edupt_> Hello! I am using ubuntu 12.04 in Zedboard (with Arm). The Zedboard has a OLED, I would like to change the text in OLED, someone know how can I do that? Thanks in advance for every support.
[21:43] <EriC^^> marus: uefi/
[21:43] <EriC^^> ?
[21:44] <OerHeks> marus, pendrive says it could http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:44] <Jordan_U> marus: Correct, there is no tool in the Ubuntu repositories for accomplishing this.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> marus: http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html
[21:45] <pitastrudl> hello, im trying to install this, any idea on how to make it work http://sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-system-load-indicator-0-4-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[21:45] <pitastrudl> cant find any settings to toggle it on
[21:45] <pitastrudl> and i forgot how i enabled it the last time
[21:47] <OerHeks> !info indicator-multiload
[21:47] <OerHeks> pitastrudl, indicator-multiload is in the repos
[21:47] <marus> OerHeks: pendrivelinux is very good, i've tested it, but you can't install it in ubuntu
[21:47] <bytefire> Hi all
[21:47] <pitastrudl> i see
[21:47] <pitastrudl> nvm
[21:47] <pitastrudl> i had to open the app
[21:47] <pitastrudl> ;_;
[21:49] <Meh32> hey guys, i have a question, anyone know how to give permission to my User to be able to edit files in /var/www ?
[21:49] <Meh32> i dont want to sudo everytime i want to edit something in my local webserver
[21:49] <pitastrudl> !info indicator-sysmonitor
[21:49] <daftykins> marus: regardless your example command was wrong since you chose sdb1 not sdb ;)
[21:50] <marus> daftykins: it work for me, i've tested both
[21:51] <daftykins> marus: EFI boot? that's different then, legacy boot you can't just dd to a partition.
[21:51] <edupt_> Hello! I am using ubuntu 12.04 in Zedboard (with Arm). The Zedboard has a OLED, I would like to change the text in OLED, someone know how can I do that? Thanks in advance for every support.
[21:51] <daftykins> !repeat | edupt_
[21:52] <marus> damage, there isn't any tool for linux like pendrivelinux
[21:52] <daftykins> edupt_: you should maybe find channels relevant to that device, i don't think this channel will be of much use for ARM toys
[21:52] <edupt_> ok. Sorry
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> !arm
[21:52] <OerHeks> marus, then go for winusb , see the url from Jordan_U
[21:53] <marus> Jordan_U say there no tool
[21:54] <Jordan_U> marus: There are many supported tools for preparing GNU/Linux LiveUSBs in Ubuntu. There are no supported tools for preparing Windows install USBs in Ubuntu, and it is a completely different process. I have pointed you toward WinUSB once already, here is the link again: http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html . We cannot support this tool, but you are free to use it and get support for any problems you have elsewhere.
[21:55] <marus> Jordan_U: thanks
[21:56] <bytefire> I removed and re-added WiFi drivers. It seems to have gone okay. But connection fails with the message: aborting authentication with (Mac address) by local choice
[21:56] <Jordan_U> marus: You're welcome.
[21:56] <bytefire> Any suggestions why that might be?
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> bytefire  by local choice... did you somehow change a mac address?
[21:58] <emmanuel_erc> hello everyone!!!
[21:58] <emmanuel_erc> I think I might be the biggest moron on the planet right now
[21:59] <daftykins> emmanuel_erc: well phrase an ubuntu related support question for us and start from there
[21:59] <emmanuel_erc> I'm sorry... I am just freaking out
[21:59] <daftykins> ok, well pull yourself together first :)
[21:59] <k1l_> emmanuel_erc: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here only.
[22:00] <jhutchins> emmanuel_erc: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[22:00] <emmanuel_erc> I am going to ask about how I might restore my files that I deleted. Is that ubuntu techical support related?
[22:01] <k1l_> !extundelete | emmanuel_erc
[22:01] <k1l_> !undelete | emmanuel_erc
[22:02] <emmanuel_erc> This was on my laptop, and I shut down my computer once I realized what happened, though I did install extundelete while I was panicking.
[22:02] <bytefire> MonkeyDust not deliberately
[22:02] <emmanuel_erc> (I am using my desktoop right now)
[22:03] <bytefire> MonkeyDust it connects fine after restarting
[22:03] <emmanuel_erc> I want to ask if it is possible to start my laptop up again and just go to the virtual console so that I may perhaps unmount the drive
[22:03] <bytefire> ... the machine
[22:05] <Leverquin> can i get some link with terminal commands. and with list of file type that is commong in linux (the best if have comperation with windows)
[22:06] <daftykins> Leverquin: file types (extensions) aren't really relevant in Linux land, type is handled by metadata in file headers i think
[22:07] <Leverquin> how do you mean?
[22:07] <daftykins> you don't get file.ext , you get file with header info
[22:08] <Leverquin> oh and where i can see header?
[22:10] <daftykins> you would run "file foo" and it can tell you what the file is
[22:11] <Leverquin> okay
[22:13] <allonhadaya> hi, I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for analyzing a core dump from a piece of firmware, specifically iwlwifi?
[22:14] <allonhadaya> I have the location of the dump, but I'm not sure where to find the binary... or if that's even what I'm supposed to do.
[22:18] <pyos2> test
[22:20] <Jordan_U> allonhadaya: I assume that you're having trouble with a wireless card. Does this card work well in another OS? If you suspect a problem with the linux driver then I would suggest filing a bug report and including this core dump. How did you come across this core dump anyway?
[22:23] <allonhadaya> :sb goto -1
[22:23] <allonhadaya> :sb goto -1
[22:23] <allonhadaya> :sb goto -1
[22:23] <allonhadaya> oh oops
[22:24] <joan> hi, need some help with permissions on a directory mounted using the "bind" option. Scenario: /bind_dir, set with 777 and ownership root:root, is the main dir. It has two subdirs, /bind_dir/subdir_home (777, user:user), and /bind_dir/subdir_media (777, root:root). The first one binds the regular /home/user dir system, and the second one the regular /media dir system. Both are meant to be used in a nfs share, and are mounted as usual:  "none
[22:24] <joan>    bind  0  0".
[22:26] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: I've been using this same setup for a long time with no trouble, so it must be a very infrequent edgecase. I had a bunch of webpages open, actively streaming a youtube video, as well as an ssh tunnel which may have been hung up on already.
[22:26] <MrHeaderr> Hey hey
[22:27] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: where should I file the bug?
[22:27] <MrHeaderr> The Ubuntu Mate image for the Pi2 is awesome, still use now
[22:27] <sirEgghead> I have a fresh 15.04 installation that won't connect to wifi.  NetworkManager sees the wifi spots around.  The password is correct.  I have another laptop (different hardware) with a fresh 15.04 installation as well.  It works fine.
[22:28] <gnargnargnar> Shred
[22:28] <gnargnargnar> hello?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> allonhadaya: All you've said is what apps you had open when something happened. What actually happened? Where did this "firmware core dump" come from?
[22:29] <gnargnargnar> Hello!
[22:32] <wileee> sirEgghead, Check lspci in the cli for th hardware as well for us.
[22:32] <wileee> the*
[22:33] <wileee> sirEgghead, Just making sure it does connect with wifi, can you confirm this?
[22:33] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: I'll try to answer what I think you're asking, but correct me if I didn't understand... One moment I was usng my apps like I described, and the next I had a bunch of log messages from iwlwifi on the screen. The last line indicated where I could find a core dump. The computer was unresponsive for a while, until at some point I could reboot it.
[22:34] <sirEgghead> wileee, the hardware is showing up.  RTL8188CE.  It won't connect though.  I even tried to connect to an open wifi as well.
[22:35] <daftykins> ugh realtek
[22:35] <sirEgghead> agreed ^
[22:35] <Jordan_U> allonhadaya: Is this error message still available in /var/log/dmesg.0 or elsewhere?
[22:36] <t3p0> hello all!
[22:37] <t3p0> I have a quick question regarding installing a piece of software on server-12.04.5
[22:37] <wileee> sirEgghead, Yeah realtek, info on the web I will share, as I'm not sure what you've done so far, and am not really up on this issue.  https://www.google.com/search?q=15.04++RTL8188CE&hl=en&site=webhp&gbv=1&sei=nnjKVfjgBpfSoASZ5YOAAw
[22:38] <t3p0> apt-get install stress-ng doesnt seem to find the package
[22:38] <sirEgghead> wileee, haven't really done anything to this one yet.  I dislike realtek.
[22:39] <bekks> !info stress-ng
[22:39] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: I'm digging around... Will let you know if I find it.
[22:39] <sirEgghead> wileee, I'll go over some of those results and get back to you again.  thanks.
[22:39] <bekks> !info stress-ng precise
[22:39] <wileee> sirEgghead, No problem, wish I had better support.
[22:39] <bekks> t3p0: It doesnt exist in precise.
[22:41] <t3p0> @bekks oh my
[22:41] <t3p0> I feel pretty dumb
[22:41] <t3p0> I suppose it needs 14.04 huh?
[22:41] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: the crash dump was located in /usr/share/apport/apport -- would that serve as a hint to where I might find the logs?
[22:41] <bekks> !14.04 > beisner
[22:42] <bekks> beisner: dont bother, I tabfailed.
[22:42] <bekks> !14.04 > bekks
[22:42] <t3p0> @bekks thanks for getting that info for me
[22:42] <daftykins> sirEgghead: can you update that install with the wired interface?
[22:42] <bekks> !info stress-ng trusty
[22:42] <bekks> t3p0: It doesnt exist in trusty either, gimme a few please :)
[22:43] <genii> hm
[22:44] <bekks> t3p0: It should be available in trusty backports: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2015-February/020479.html
[22:44] <sirEgghead> daftykins, yeah
[22:44] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: now that I look at that file, that doesn't really make sense... :/
[22:44] <daftykins> sirEgghead: ok, updated realtek drivers it is then
[22:44] <sirEgghead> daftykins, sounds good.  mind pointing me in the right direction?
[22:45] <bekks> t3p0: Can confirm it is in trusty backports: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-backports/stress-ng
[22:45] <Jordan_U> allonhadaya: I'm looking up how to get apport to automatically send a bug report including the crash dump.
[22:45] <bekks> t3p0: Hope that helps
[22:46] <daftykins> sirEgghead: no can do, don't know where to get anything - it'd just be google.
[22:46] <sirEgghead> haha kk ty
[22:47] <Jordan_U> allonhadaya: Running "apport-cli" should present you with the option of filing a bug report.
[22:49] <t3p0> @bekks thanks so much!
[22:50] <bekks> t3p0: you're welcome :)
[22:50] <bekks> t3p0: In "revenge", you could clue me a bit further on how to use stress-ng :)
[22:51] <finetundra__> anyone know how to move programs to a ti 84?
[22:51] <finetundra__> on 14,04
[22:51] <finetundra__> probably not the best description
[22:51] <bekks> t3p0: this one: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/stress-ng/ is a bit overwhelming :D
[22:51] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: apport-cli indicates that there are no pending crashes and that lines up with the fact that it's not in /var/crash
[22:52] <k1l_> finetundra__: how would you do it on a non-14.04?
[22:52] <finetundra__> k1l_: I don't know
[22:52] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: could the system have frozen before it was able to write the report?
[22:52] <k1l_> finetundra__: and what does "move program to a ti84" mean at all?
[22:53] <finetundra__> And I'm talking about programs meant for the ti84 calculator
[22:53] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: I know that this line of code ran -- https://github.com/elp/iwlwifi/blob/master/fs/coredump.c#L604
[22:53] <allonhadaya> Jordan_U: if it helps
[22:53] <daftykins> finetundra__: i take it you mean software on Linux to manage the calculators
[22:53] <k1l_> !tilp | finetundra__
[22:54] <k1l_> !info tilp | finetundra__
[22:54] <finetundra__> daftykins: that sounds about right
[22:54] <k1l_> !info tilp2 | finetundra__
[22:56] <t3p0> @bekks agreed :)
[22:56] <t3p0> I am learning myself, trying to move away from using StressLinux distro.
[22:57] <t3p0> Would prefer something built it. I will chime back once I get some facetime with -ng :)
[22:57] <finetundra__> that'll do, thanks guys!
[22:59] <WorldCorp> f
[23:13] <finetundra__> and I'm back. Tilp seems to crash when backing up. Does anyone know how to backup with tilp and where it stores backups?
[23:14] <daftykins> that's like the most niche request ever
[23:14] <daftykins> finetundra__: look it up, i feel like you don't even try before you come here.
[23:14] <finetundra__> daftykins: I do try before I come here. When I do come here, I've reached a dead end.
[23:15] <daftykins> finding that program was like an app search, heh
[23:17] <Finetundra> Still, now I need to know where it puts backups. And why it crashes when backing up.
[23:17] <daftykins> does it have a man page?
[23:18] <Finetundra> Yeah, I didn't see a backup location listed
[23:18] <jab_here> x
[23:18] <k1l_> Finetundra: that program is a very special one. so you might have more luck with looking into the docs of that program or see if there is a community around it
[23:19] <daftykins> http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/linux.html
[23:33] <hexdecimalagain> hey everyone
[23:35] <finetundra__> hexdecimalagain: hi
[23:35] <hexdecimalagain> I have a little problem
[23:35] <finetundra__> hexdecimalagain: go ahead and say it
[23:35] <daftykins> !ask
[23:37] <hexdecimalagain> I started to do programming (im on holiday btw), im 18, as i said i started to do a programming it was so productive 2 weeks for me, but i gave up. I dont have a motvation what should i do
[23:37] <hexdecimalagain> Its little off topic
[23:37] <OerHeks> totally offtopic :-)
[23:37] <k1l_> hexdecimalagain: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat for that then
[23:37] <finetundra__> hexdecimalagain: ubuntu-offtopic
[23:52] <gartral> hey guys, in 15.04 is /home encryption manditory?
[23:55] <k1l_> gartral: no