[04:40] Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_konsole/13/ remvoe upstream patches in CI branches === 77CAAJ45X is now known as TuxMario [07:36] eeek, CI breakage because of gcc5 transition and qalculate being held hostage by britney -.- [07:47] python3-pykde4 : Depends: kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed [07:47] uff [07:47] Riddell: landing apps will also need pykde meddling >.< [07:48] * sitter wonders why update-manager-kde still uses pykde [08:01] Good morning. [08:51] sitter Riddell: why did gwenview fail - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/214235823/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.gwenview_4%3A15.04.3%2Bgit20150812.0223%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [08:51] "collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status" scary linker errors [08:52] I think it's a fault with libexif or libkexif [08:53] gcc5 transition most likely [08:53] how do you go about fixing it? [08:53] right [08:53] plasma-workspace fails on similar nonesense in libqalculate [08:55] -workspace and -desktop are all compiled everywhere [08:55] is that so http://kci.pangea.pub/ [08:55] oh I only know about wily and wily-proposed [09:01] is this just a temp error - W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-proposed/universe/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch [09:02] yes [09:03] if not something or something is intercepting traffic so the signed checksums don't match the unsigned metadata anymore :P [09:12] Sitter: for http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kanagram.git/log/?h=kubuntu_stable this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/12057127/ do you agree/disagree? [09:13] I think so [09:14] clivejo: FWIW I prefer to never define license blocks as part of a file block [09:14] e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12060457/ [09:14] so at the top you have all the file blocks and at the bottom all the license blocks [09:15] define them at the end? [09:15] that makes sense [09:15] easier to read :P [09:15] will I make you a new diff? [09:19] sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12060471/ [09:20] ++ [09:21] pushed thanks [09:24] I cant make head nor tail of akonadi [09:25] W: akonadi source: stronger-dependency-implies-weaker akonadi-server depends -> suggests akonadi-backend-mysql (= ${source:Version}) [09:30] is there no kubuntu+1 forum on www.kubuntuforums.net [09:31] clivejo: There is a Depends and a Suggests for the same package [09:32] yes, but surely thats right? the akonadi-server needs a backend, and the suggested one is mysql? [09:39] clivejo: it depends on mysql and it suggests mysql [09:40] well mysql is default, so should I remove the suggest? [09:40] I guess so [09:40] you dont sound convinced! [09:41] I haven't understood our akonadi packaging for the last couple of years :P [09:41] yofel was the last to express understanding, so I think his input would be valuable [09:41] generally though I'd say the depends is the thing we want [09:42] not having a broken akonadi is very much preferred [09:42] well I do use it, but understanding it, nope [09:42] for sanity's sake, you might not want to ask me [09:42] akonadi makes a fool of us all [09:42] clivejo: what exactly are you trying to do? [09:43] fix the build [09:43] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_akonadi/3/parsed_console/ [09:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12060582/ <- new invention only has 3 libraries and every package type you could need [09:44] . . . [09:44] Riddell: ping [09:44] clivejo: yeah, remove the suggests on mysql [09:45] should I add a dep for PkgConfig? [09:45] clivejo: yes. pkg-config is the package [09:46] thanks sitter, what just searching for it on packages.ubuntu.com [09:46] Riddell: akonadi-search good for review [09:49] should I bump the standards to 3.9.6? [09:51] clivejo: yup [09:51] sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12060627/ [09:55] pushed thanks. [09:55] if anyone has time to walk me throught these problems - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_cantor/12/parsed_console/ [09:55] clivejo: fancy doing the patches in a proper way? [09:55] whats the proper way? [09:55] you git commit yourself [09:55] Im not a member [09:56] I know ;) [09:56] after the commit you use git format-patch -1 to extract the commit as a patch and paste that [09:56] that way I can import your commit directly [09:57] can we do the last one as an example? [09:57] I need to do it to understand [09:57] sure [09:58] I recommend you install git-gui [09:58] or another git gui (qgit, ggit etc.) [09:58] which is prefered? [09:58] entirely up to you, if you want you can also use the terminal [09:58] I use git-gui [09:59] it's a 1990's gui like gitk ;) [09:59] Ive installed it, how do I run it? [09:59] git gui [10:00] oh dear [10:00] that didnt go well [10:00] what happened? [10:00] application-specific initialization failed: couldn't connect to display ":0" [10:01] are you running in a screen or something? [10:01] ok need to sudo [10:01] Oo [10:01] that doesn't seem right [10:01] like *at all* [10:01] you should never ever sudo a gui [10:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12060690/ [10:03] clivejo: eek, try qgit [10:05] Riddell, kde should be on par on all archs, took me 16 hours ... :-/ [10:05] <3 <3 <3 [10:05] LO [10:05] qgit: cannot connect to X server :0 [10:06] doko: now if only libqalculate and libexif would migrate from proposed ;) [10:06] clivejo: open a new konsole and try there [10:06] that works [10:06] old terminal got busted somehow? [10:07] yes, we forced icu and boost, but for libraries changing the name without the soname, it's a no-go [10:07] sitter, how is kdepim progressing? [10:07] uh [10:08] doko: half way done https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [10:08] I just hope kdepim itself isn't quite as much work as kdepimlibs -.- [10:08] no login [10:08] doko: ah, nevermind then ... ~10 packages down. ~10 more to go [10:09] clivejo: so anyway, open git gui looks something like this http://imgur.com/oLz2GNW [10:10] top left list is what has changed in your directory versus the last commit, bottom left list would be what you are about to commit, right top is diff of the currently selected file and righ bottom is commit message and stuff [10:11] to commit something you first need to stage the change. to do that select the control file and go to commit -> stage to commit [10:11] that will move the file to the bottom left list [10:11] then write a commit message in the bottom right field [10:12] you can treat this field pretty much like a mail. first line is the subject of the commit. then leave a line blank and then write a detaile description [10:12] this enables GUIs to display it in that fashion e.g. http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_stable&id=a0efaa5a065b7bbb7f9420f26533218901b20ed2 [10:13] once good click commit [10:14] whats this window? top: HEAD Bottom:debian/14.12.3-1 [10:14] clivejo: use git gui rather than qgit [10:14] it's less confusing :P [10:15] the qgit window essentially wants to know which part of the history it is supposed to show [10:15] ewww [10:15] told you it's 1990s :P [10:16] Ive got problems [10:36] sitter: ok, problems swept under the carpet, Ive got git gui open now :) [10:37] clivejo: continue as instructed previously :P [10:37] once you have your commit you can paste it with `git format-patch -1 --stdout | pastebinit` [10:37] -1 means one commit from HEAD (i.e. latest commit) [10:38] without --stdout the command will write files, which is useful when exporting multiple commits [10:38] e.g. git format-patch -3 will export 3 commits into 3 sepearate files [10:39] what should the commit message be? [10:40] brief overview like "Fixing dep's" or a details description? [10:41] clivejo: both, see the commit I linked to [10:41] depending on the change you'll only want to have a short oneliner, if you have multiple changes it is usually worthwhile to list them and possibly why they were made [10:41] for complicated changes some people are known to write entire short stories ;) [10:42] that I can believe [10:43] ok clicked commit [10:45] make sure your commit is the way you wanted it with `git log` or `git show` or gitk, or all of them [10:45] then use format-patch [10:51] Riddell: kmailtransport for review [11:00] sitter: kalgebra-common has missing dependencies... org.kde.analitza[1.0] not found. Would that be a runtime or build dep? Im kinda leaning to a build dep on analitza-dev ? [11:01] sitter: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_kalgebra/9/parsed_console/ [11:02] clivejo: yes those are runtime qml dependencies [11:03] for most of them the package woudl be qml-module-$name where $name is the full name with hyphens instead of dots [11:03] so add package analitza to the packages as deps? [11:03] so org.kde.analtiza is qml-module-org-kde-analitza [11:03] clivejo: it needs more than analitza though [11:03] oh [11:03] how do you know that? [11:03] KCI-I :: org.kde.plasma.components[2.0] not found. [11:03] experience? [11:04] that on is plasma-framework [11:04] and that should bring in the majority of the other missing packages [11:04] KCI-I :: widgets[1.0] not found. [11:04] that one needs manual black listing [11:04] add kalgebramobile.qml-ignore [11:05] and put widgets 1.0 on a line [11:05] KCI-I :: org.kde.kalgebra.mobile[1.0] not found. [11:05] same for this [11:06] so in summary: kalgebra-common needs plasma-framework, qml-module-org-kde-analitza. kalgebramobile needs plasma-framework and a qml-ignore file [11:10] so I create a file called kalgebramobile.qml-ignore ? [11:10] yep [11:11] debuild automatically reads this? [11:11] or lintan? [11:11] no, it's something specific to our CI systems [11:11] format looks like this: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ci-tooling.git/tree/test/data/test_qml_ignore_rule/test_read [11:12] Im a bit confused [11:12] I get the new file [11:12] but confused on the santax of the contents [11:12] clivejo: see link [11:13] it's essentially a list of qml imports that we want to ignore [11:14] but widgets[1.0] has no FQDN? [11:14] like org.kde.kalgebra.mobile[1.0] [11:15] clivejo: doesn't matter [11:15] clivejo: the problem is. qml modules can be injected through c++ code [11:15] its just a pattern to ignore then? [11:15] in which case they are not available on the file system (i.e. why the CI can't ever possibly find them) and since they are not on disk they are not shared so people tend to use random one-word names [11:16] ignores anything with widgets[1.0] in it? [11:16] clivejo: no. for the package kaligramobile it will ignore the missing import on widgets 1.0 [11:17] if for example kmail also has an import widgets 1.0 that one would still raise an error [11:17] oh right [11:17] Ill do a diff pastebin for you to check it [11:18] Im not sure Ive done it right [11:18] oh, the new file isnt in the diff [11:18] I need to add it [11:18] clivejo: git add [11:19] alternatively you can also use git gui to stage it for commit [11:19] that's essentially the same thing as git add [11:20] lol it doesn see any changes [11:20] show have added it as a blank file [11:20] should [11:21] anyways, I need to get some lunch [11:21] brb 15mins [11:21] clivejo: git diff --cached will show the staged changes [11:42] sitter: kwalletmanager has build-dep extra-cmake-modules (>= 1.7.0) which is an old version, any reason you picked that? [11:46] sitter: what did you do to dragon? it's on the notes page but there's no changes [11:48] Riddell: dragon was ported months ago === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [11:48] Riddell: kwalletmanager ecm is from what cmake requires [11:52] clever [11:52] * Riddell uploads konsole to wily in the hope it makes excuses have less of an excuse [11:54] Riddell: you could repair the CI branches perhaps [11:55] where? who? what? [11:55] konsole [11:55] oh aye patch, sorry let me do that [12:00] now we could build marble for both qt4 and qt5 [12:00] but I'm strongly of the opinion it's not worth it [12:01] Riddell: mh, I'd do dolphin first [12:01] somewhat more interesting than marble IMO :P [12:01] //and we should just live with no marble plugin in calligra [12:01] Riddell: from the marble discussion on some mailing list I got the impression we need libmarble for qt4 [12:02] calligra is the only thing that needs it, and libkgeomap but that's not used by anything [12:02] well [12:02] and I can't remember the last time I used the marble plugin in calligra [12:02] calligra and digikam [12:02] and in digikam I will argue it is a reasonable feature to display geodata [12:02] * clivejo nods [12:02] of course I don't use digikam so I'd not know how sorely it woudl be missed [12:03] digikam doesn't seem to rdepend on libkgeomap, maybe it has its own internal copy [12:03] digikam has a copy of everything [12:04] * Riddell moves onto dolphin [12:17] Riddell: kcalutils for review [12:17] first straight forward pim package I have encountered \o/ [12:17] it even only has one license [12:17] totally in love with this now [12:18] sitter: Ive commited my changes [12:18] kiriki build deps look weridly wrong [12:18] using git gui [12:18] git format-patch as previously mentioned === jmux__ is now known as jmux [12:19] can I push them directly from git gui? [12:19] I don't think so [12:19] you can somehow from gitk [12:19] quickest way is command line at any rate though [12:20] sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12061310/ [12:20] does that look right? [12:21] clivejo: yep. the qml-ignore format is wrong though [12:21] needs to be [12:21] NAME VERSION [12:21] version without [] [12:21] * sitter wonders why he made them print with [] in the logs [12:22] can someone confirm if wily boots fine or not with latest updates ? [12:23] Hiyas all [12:25] clivejo: oh and when you run out of space in the commit message field in git gui you should make a line break. harder to read otherwise [12:25] sitter: how do I revert? [12:26] clivejo: simply amend [12:26] hiho BluesKaj [12:26] but I commit the edit to remove the [] [12:26] need to revert that one [12:26] ah [12:26] and ammend it instead [12:27] clivejo: git reset HEAD~ [12:27] again I need to mention. reset is only an option if the commit wasn't pushed ;) [12:29] thats better I think [12:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12061358/ [12:29] yep. the commit message still could be better [12:29] http://imgur.com/nhKNVxC [12:29] that's what I would go with [12:29] first line is your subject, then you leave an empty line and then you list your changes [12:30] ah [12:30] got you now [12:31] achievement unlocked: first proper commit http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kalgebra.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_stable&id=d1267ad36ed4eb99eef2a23d2ac3c6777ee5d447 [12:31] hey soee [12:31] yippeee [12:32] wily beta2 takes almost 3 mins to boot from grub to desktop...not an improvement :/ [12:32] Riddell: I am calling it a day. should you get dolphin done feel free to move ahead on pim stuff and/or refine kdepimlibs packaging a bit [12:33] 3 days packaging... still not done -.- [12:33] thanks sitter [12:33] madness [12:34] clivejo: if you have any more patches give them to Riddell, shadeslayer or yofel they can push them to kubuntu_stable for you [12:34] * sitter out [12:34] mine is booting fine :/ [12:35] interesting we are on latest ubuntu version and we have oldest Firefox version http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox :D [12:52] soee: Im on 40 [12:54] yet the package says Version: 38.0+build3-0ubuntu2 [12:54] thats weird! [13:43] grrrt [13:43] its 15.08 apps we are doing? [13:44] i have installed all pending updates on Wily and had only problems with pam [13:45] where is the 15.08 version of http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/15.04.3/src/picmi-15.04.3.tar.xz ? [13:46] is this it - http://download.kde.org/unstable/applications/15.07.90/src/picmi-15.07.90.tar.xz [13:46] I HATE versions, they make no sense! [13:54] anyone on wily? [13:54] yup [13:54] BluesKaj: can you do : echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS ? [13:54] and paste the output here [13:54] clivejo: yes, that's what'll become 15.08 [13:54] what do you not understand? [13:55] but where is 15.08? [13:55] shadeslayer: /etc/xdg/xdg-plasma:/etc/xdg:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings [13:56] clivejo: 15.08 isn't final yet [13:56] clivejo: 15.07.80 is beta [13:56] basicly [13:56] ahoneybun: RC [13:56] BluesKaj: about FF version, 40 stucked in proposed :) [13:57] BluesKaj: thanks [13:57] beta would be 15.07.95? [13:57] so what am I supposed to be packaging? [13:57] now who's on vivid [13:57] ahoneybun: RC > Beta [13:57] true [13:57] clivejo: 15.07.90 is 15.08 RC [13:57] soee_: I don't have proposed [13:57] clivejo: it's a testing release [13:57] BluesKaj: yeah, just info [13:57] clivejo: the final release will be called 15.08 [13:58] clivejo: you can't just release 15.08 directly, since there could be obvious bugs before release, things might not compile, etc etc [13:58] so you do a couple of testing releases before the final release [13:58] ok, so Im supposed to be packaging the RC? [13:58] yes [13:58] or well, idk [13:58] and do I change the watch file etc [13:58] seems a bit of a waste of time :/ [13:59] why does it feel like a waste of time? [14:01] clivejo: as for watch files, they pick up the latest version [14:01] or they should [14:09] wily just keeps getting better [14:17] clivejo: so your working on picmi? [14:17] * clivejo shrugs [14:18] Im not sure what Im doing to be totally honest [14:19] totally agree [14:19] same here [14:19] lol [14:19] all these version are confusing me [14:22] not too much here [14:22] kinda get it [14:24] clivejo, ahoneybun: what's confusing? [14:24] and kate seems to have gone from my launcher :/ [14:24] kdebugsettings should be easy, it's all new so just take another package and start from that [14:24] ahoneybun is on picmi I see [14:25] we'll see [14:25] Riddell: kiriki should be good [14:25] ahoneybun: yep got that thanks [14:26] yep [14:27] ahoneybun: hang on clivejo is doing picmi [14:28] he did not move it on the list [14:28] he does not know how to move it [14:28] he only got a username and password to access the list about 30mins ago! [14:29] well I started moving things in the ec2 [14:29] thats as far as I got so far [14:29] ahoneybun: how do I mark it on the list? [14:29] it is in the WIP [14:29] https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 [14:29] it's a shared text editor, copy and paste [14:32] did I do that right? [14:32] yep [14:32] sorry, did know what to do [14:32] didnt [14:33] its cool [14:34] pbuilder is causing me grief [14:36] I'll try kdebugsettings [14:37] damn there is nothing in the git coppy [14:38] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdebugsettings.git/ [14:38] ? [14:38] yea [14:38] the thing is empty [14:41] have to start from scratch [14:41] Riddell gave a clue "it's all new so just take another package and start from that" [14:41] yep [14:42] sounds like a bad idea [14:42] grab any other application and use that as a template [14:42] or you can use dh-make [14:42] which will make you a template [14:42] can I follow along with this one? [14:43] clivejo: how do you mean? [14:43] how you do it [14:43] build it all up from scratch [14:45] copy the debian/ directory from another package and change the bits that need changing === jmux_ is now known as jmux [14:47] Riddell: I would think with dh-make we need to copy that line from debian/rules from another package [14:49] Riddell: how do I remove a ppa from a dbuilder environment? [14:50] I guess all the depends were on the machine already [14:51] just removed it from sources.list? [14:52] clivejo: yes pbuilder login --save-after-login and remove it [14:52] oh god [14:52] I'm going to need pbuilder for this [14:53] I recommend pbuilder-dist [14:53] pbuilder-dist wily create [14:53] pbuilder-dist wily build foo.dsc [14:53] I've never used that [14:53] only needed for a final check [14:53] right now I don't have a .dsc [14:54] debuild is running atm [14:54] compiling [14:54] I copied what it shot out about needed packages [14:54] oh [14:54] seems it ran test [14:54] and failed 9/10 [14:55] Could not connect to display [14:58] ahoneybun: you can look at how konsole runs its tests [14:58] where? [14:58] in konsole packaging [14:58] first need to fix the deps [14:58] debian/tests and debian/control [14:58] debuild runs it fine [14:59] but I know LP is going to be fuzzy [14:59] since it had like only the base deps [15:00] libqt5test5 ? [15:00] that's why you need to test stuff in pbuilder-dist [15:00] builds it in a clean environment same as launchpad does [15:00] wellllllllllll [15:00] I need to learn that [15:02] and fafs about installing package after package [15:02] only to fail and have to run the whole thing again! [15:02] * ahoneybun is going to wear his KDE stuff at a tech event today [15:02] what tech event? [15:02] vBeer [15:02] free beer! [15:03] * ahoneybun runs pbuilder [15:06] I like the sound of that [15:06] XD [15:06] ahoneybun: using pbuilder-dist? [15:06]