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surgyi installed kernal 4.0.4 to try to get some hardware to work. how do i uninstall it?01:14
surgyi have already booted back into 3.1901:15
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gibletshellooo03:17
gibletsjust upgraded to 15.0403:17
gibletsweb search tells me how great it is and how people love it03:18
gibletsoh dear03:18
gibletsplasma does restart instantly after crashing constantly and popping up a helpful dialog box03:19
gibletsand since it's fresh and new with so many improvements it totally makes sense how it blew away all my previous configuration03:20
gibletsI love the icon changes too, looking good is more important than consistency03:20
gibletsI also love how plasma kept the important stuff the same, you know the excellently designed user interface for configuring the toolbar03:21
gibletswhile getting rid of all the useless "icon settings" features, and keeping the only useful one. you know, the one for setting the keyboard shortcuts.03:22
gibletsplasma wouldn't be the excellent software it is today without plenty of user testing, and the only way to test it properly is to release it into the wild. it's totally ready for alpha testing03:23
gibletsI also like how kde doesn't clutter up the screen with any visual indicators that a minimized app is open03:24
gibletsit's also excellent how you can set the default browser in firefox, but not in chromium, and how firefox thinks it's the default browser, but it isn't, and there is not clearly visible way to set it systemwide.03:27
gibletssteaming. steaming is good. hot soup. dumplings.03:27
gibletspile. I like having a pile of money, or record albums.03:28
gibletshot. hot is good. we like hot chicks, and soup.03:28
giblets"garbage" is such an unkind word.  when I find the right word to go with steaming. hot. pile. of ___. I'll let you know03:29
gibletsuntil then, I'll have lots of fun! I love backing up all my data, wiping the disk, and reverting. to debian.03:30
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yossarianukbest news for desktop Linux for ages : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Better-Gaming-Drivers07:54
yossarianuknot having the latest nvidia drivers harms gamers at present...07:55
alvinNouveau would even be better07:56
yossarianukalvin: you mean 'will' ? I assume07:57
yossarianukyou would be totally insane to pay good money for a Nvidia GPU then reduce its speed by about 80% by running the Nouveau driver (in its present state)07:58
alvinWell, currently NVIDIA drivers are best for gaming, but nouveau is easier to install and more stable, right? So, they need work to also be good at gaming07:58
yossarianukmay as well stick with on-board intel graphics ...07:58
alvinThat would break plasma :-p07:59
yossarianukI can't wait for nouveau to equal/beat the speed of the binary driver - can't see it happening for many years though07:59
lordievaderGood morning.08:00
yossarianukso for gamers having latest nvidia driver is a good thing.... the issues outlined with shadow of mordor prove that ubuntu at least provide an easy way of getting the latest driver.08:01
alvinOh, yes. Used to be much harder before DKMS. But FreeBSD can provide the latest drivers in a timely manner, so why shouldn't Ubuntu be able to.08:03
yossarianuksticking with a driver with known bugs in, in the name of stability is wrong imo.08:03
yossarianuk Also not having the latest driver easily available (personally i'm using the latest 355.06 - but had to manually install the .RUN file)  make it seem that Windows is a better gaming system - when it wouldn't be if only the Linux user had easy access to latest.08:04
yossarianukanyway - i'm happy with this announcement08:04
alvinMore or less. I would even be happier if NVIDIA announced documentation.08:39
yossarianuk hi - are there any plans re-add to plasma5 the ability to have different backgrounds / per workspace ? (i.e like you could on KDE4?)09:05
yossarianukts a handy feature as I used to have a different background to represent if I were working on the DEV/QA/PRD layers...09:12
lordievaderWasn't the idea that you have activities for that?09:13
yossarianuklordievader: you can do it with activities ?09:14
soee_you can and you should use activities for this09:15
soee_as few times already mentioned, virtual desktop wont have such feature in Plasma 509:15
lordievaderyossarianuk: Yes, that is the idea of activities. Virtual desktops are meant to be related in task, activities are meant to be different in task. (Read something along those lines somewhere)09:16
zaggynlhello, what's the password for the livecd user "it" ?09:16
zaggynllaptop fell asleep, am now stuck at screensaver lock screen09:17
soee_no password or maybe: admin or root09:17
zaggynlI tried: blank, admin, root, ti, it, kubuntu, ubuntu09:18
lordievaderNo password, shouldn't have one...09:18
zaggynlunlocking failed09:18
yossarianukars09:19
zaggynloh, usb didn't like standby/resume09:19
yossarianuk(sorry..)09:19
zaggynlIO errors on passwd from different tty09:19
zaggynlreboot go09:19
yossarianuklordievader: hmmm - I can see it kind of works... would be easier just to have different backgrounds for workspaces imo...09:23
yossarianukthanks09:23
yossarianukone other issue I am having with KDE/firefox is that it defaulting to the wrong applications to open files.09:47
yossarianuki.e - to open .zip files KDE is set to use ARK, but firefox opens in xarchiver - how can I sort this ?09:47
yossarianukI note there used to be a 'firefox-kde-support' package a while ago - cannot find this now.09:48
yossarianukis there a way to make firefox open file types with correct KDE applications ?09:49
lordievaderFirefox seems to use its own database for opening things.09:49
yossarianukroll on Fiber......09:50
yossarianukI really do not like using Chrome.... - so is the best way to manually edit the mimetypes file in firefox dir ?09:50
lordievaderNo idea, I don't use Firefox.09:58
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surgyi have been trying to get my graphics tablet to be restricted to one screen for a while now and finally found the command. I am running kubuntu 14.04 lts with kernal 3.19...... now that i have the command i would like to know, how do i make it so that the command runs whenever i first boot into kde (or X) everytime i start the computer? here is the command that works :: xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"10:25
surgy 0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 110:25
danakilhello :) I've just upgraded my Kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5.3.2 and Framework 5.12 and Telepathy don't work anymore. I can't create a Google account (there is no Google entry in Account manager)10:37
danakilI tried to install Kopete but there is no providers at all (Google or anything else) when I try to create an account from the Kopete config10:38
danakilany idea please ?10:38
surgythats why i use lts :) less bugs10:39
danakilnot really an answer but yes, you're right ;)10:40
danakilactually this is my main work pc and this release has a kwin fix that I really needed10:41
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BluesKajHiyas all12:23
InspectorCluseausystem upgraded to firefox 40 and now all I get is a white firefox screen with the top buttons12:29
soeeInspectorCluseau: how did you upgrade ?12:33
InspectorCluseauusing the upgrade manager12:33
InspectorCluseau"software manager"12:34
InspectorCluseau"software manager" er updater12:34
soeeKubuntu?12:34
InspectorCluseauyes12:34
soeehmm  i have 38 here on Wily12:34
soeeInspectorCluseau: can't help much, on Wily we have 38 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox and it works fine12:36
soeeBluesKaj: are you on Vivid ?12:36
InspectorCluseauaccording to release note Mozilla tweaked the graphics on 40 ... must be that is the issue12:36
soeetry to disablng hardware acceleration12:36
InspectorCluseauin Firefox? how12:37
soeeInspectorCluseau: if iths enabled this migh thelp http://www.silicongadget.com/internet/browsers/enable-firefox-hardware-acceleration-on-linux/2791/12:37
InspectorCluseauI'll bet it requires the use of FF preferences .... which can't be accessed with a blank screen12:38
BluesKajsoee: on Wily here12:39
soeeBluesKaj: can you confirm that FF 40 is broken somehow on Vivid ?12:39
InspectorCluseau14.04 LTS here12:39
soeeahhh12:39
BluesKajdon't have vivid, soee12:39
soeeah sorry, anyway InspectorCluseauis on LTS12:39
soeeInspectorCluseau: are you using any fancy plugns or something that might cause this problem ?12:40
BluesKajusing 14.10 as my main OS, but testing Wily atm12:40
soeeInspectorCluseau: you might want to try: backup and remove .mozilla/Firefox folder12:41
soeein your home directory12:41
soeeBluesKaj: are you on latest updateson Wily ?12:41
lordievaderBluesKaj: I suspect you know Utopic is EOL?12:41
BluesKajguess my pc is getting too old for the likes of Wily 15.10 since it takes 3mins to get a desktop12:42
InspectorCluseaualready replaced the whole .mozilla folder with a known good one ... same issue12:42
BluesKajlordievader:  I don't care, it runs fine on this pc and it has the features I want that have been dropped from plasma512:42
lordievaderI was afraid of that answer. Still it is better to downgrade to Trusty.12:43
BluesKajInspectorCluseau:  I gave up on FF, switch to chrome, itworks fine12:43
BluesKajlordievader:  why?12:44
lordievaderBecause Trusty is supported.12:44
soeelife on edge is better - use Wily :D12:44
BluesKajwell , I'll take my chabces12:44
BluesKajsoee: not when it takes away most of my fav features to replace them with eye candy that don't even like12:45
BluesKajerr chances12:45
yossarianukBluesKaj: if its taking 3 mins there must be an issue with some of the startup- systemd services.13:10
yossarianuktry to boot up so you can see the boot messages13:11
yossarianuki.e - http://askubuntu.com/questions/558366/how-to-show-boot-messages-in-14-1013:11
yossarianukI'm finding wily more stable than vivid...13:11
yossarianuklots of little issues/annoyances seem fixed in 15.1013:12
BluesKajyes, same here yossarianuk ..vivid is pretty clunky13:12
soeeplu13:13
yossarianukbut if its taking 4 mins to boot I suggest enabling boot messages and seeing whats going on...13:16
yossarianukIn the old days (15 years ago) most distros you could just press a key to see them......  now you have to edit the grub kernel lines....13:17
yossarianukprogress ........13:17
alvinyossarianuk: plymouth and such haven't been around for 15 years! It's much more recent. Also, it's the first thing I restore on a fresh install. You /have/ to see the boot messages.13:19
yossarianukbut surely plymouth could have added an option to see them?13:24
InspectorCluseaumoved back to the last FF and with some adjustment all is back to normal13:29
InspectorCluseauI'll try 40 on a different installation13:30
InspectorCluseaulike my Vbox13:30
danakil[14:39] <soee> BluesKaj: can you confirm that FF 40 is broken somehow on Vivid ?    just for information, I don't have any problem with FF40 on Kubuntu  15.04 + nvidia drivers13:48
anabainnfs question: I've got a dir /media bound through /etc/fstab with rbind option to the dir /shared/media (777, root:root). I can list/shared/media contents at the server, but not in the client, which mounts the share under /home/user/server. Also at the client, I can, however, access to the /home/user/server/home_user contents. I have the same reversed configuration between these two boxes, and everything works fine. What's the problem? (13:57
anabainexport options are, in both cases:  /shared  client_ip(rw,sync,fsid=0,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash,crossmnt)  ;  user and UID are the same)13:57
lordievaderanabain: I'm confused by your description. I'll just ask: On the server what dir is exported?14:13
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anabainok, lordievader : /media and /home/user dirs are respectively bound to /shared/media (777 root:root) and /shared/home/user (777 user:user). The exported one is /shared (777 root:root)14:31
lordievaderOk, why the 777 <- is a very bad permission setting.14:31
lordievaderAlso for as far as I know, nfs doesn't like to cross mount points.14:32
anabainRegarding 777, I was following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo14:33
anabainok, I'll remove crossmnt, then14:34
anabainbut the funny thing is that the setting works in one direction, but not in the opposite...14:34
lordievaderCan /shared be mounted from clients?14:35
anabainyes, as I said, I can access the home_user contents from the client, and I can also see the media dirs, but not their content (both are hdds xfs formated, one partition for every hdd))14:37
lordievaderHmm, and /home/users and /shared/media are mounted in the same way into /shared?14:39
anabainyes, but I'm thinking if crossmnt has anything to do with this...14:40
lordievaderWell, my experience is that nfs doesn't like to cross boundaries.14:41
anabainok, I'll check that14:42
anabainwhich permissions do you suggest for the bound shared dirs?14:42
lordievaderanabain: The minimum needed.14:45
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arsen0hi kubuntu people  !17:57
arsen0having problems with lightdm, it is not taking the given settings17:57
BluesKajqr which kubuntu version?18:02
BluesKajarsen0: ^18:02
arsen0kubuntu 14.0418:18
arsen0ladmin@kubuntu-01:~$ sudo cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [SeatDefaults] allow-guest=false greeter-show-manual-login=true greeter-hide-users=true18:19
arsen0only the guest line get applied18:19
BluesKajarsen0:  reboot , at he login screen, ctl+alt+ f1-f6 to bring up the VT/TTY . login as yourself, then sudo service lightdm enable, then startx18:47
BluesKajor sudo service lightdm start18:48
BluesKajarsen0: ^18:48
arsen0lightdm starts ok, but not with the right config....19:00
arsen0i did a quick fix: remove lightdm, install kdm. works fine19:00
arsen0thnx19:00
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ari-tczewdoes anybody know how to fix an error message on booting, before graphic environment start: "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type (...) or "D" to try again to boot into default mode." ?19:36
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BluesKajari-tczew:  did you just re-install an OS ot dist-upgrade and reboot ?19:46
ari-tczewBluesKaj: no, it happens since 2 weaks or so19:57
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lordievaderari-tczew: Investigate why it is going into systemd emergency mode. Likely cannot mount something.20:26
surgyhello21:22
surgyis anyone around?21:22
surgycan someone recommend a good piano program? i want to be able to play a piano using my keyboard :)_21:29
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akasicheyo21:42
soeehiho21:42
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surgyok im running kubuntu 14.04 with kernal 3.19 and im having a problem restricting my graphics tablet to one monitor. i know the command. but im getting an error.... something about multiple devices sharing the same name..... in the following pasteall i have xinput list lsusb and then i ran the command. so that you can see the error and the three "hv huion" that its reffereing to. can someone help me sort out the error please so that the command22:49
surgy will run? here is the paste :: http://www.pasteall.org/6042822:49
surgyhow do i issue this command and use the specific device ID  or prefix instead of "hv Huion" ? :: xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 122:58
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