[01:14] <surgy> i installed kernal 4.0.4 to try to get some hardware to work. how do i uninstall it?
[01:15] <surgy> i have already booted back into 3.19
[03:17] <giblets> hellooo
[03:17] <giblets> just upgraded to 15.04
[03:18] <giblets> web search tells me how great it is and how people love it
[03:18] <giblets> oh dear
[03:19] <giblets> plasma does restart instantly after crashing constantly and popping up a helpful dialog box
[03:20] <giblets> and since it's fresh and new with so many improvements it totally makes sense how it blew away all my previous configuration
[03:20] <giblets> I love the icon changes too, looking good is more important than consistency
[03:21] <giblets> I also love how plasma kept the important stuff the same, you know the excellently designed user interface for configuring the toolbar
[03:22] <giblets> while getting rid of all the useless "icon settings" features, and keeping the only useful one. you know, the one for setting the keyboard shortcuts.
[03:23] <giblets> plasma wouldn't be the excellent software it is today without plenty of user testing, and the only way to test it properly is to release it into the wild. it's totally ready for alpha testing
[03:24] <giblets> I also like how kde doesn't clutter up the screen with any visual indicators that a minimized app is open
[03:27] <giblets> it's also excellent how you can set the default browser in firefox, but not in chromium, and how firefox thinks it's the default browser, but it isn't, and there is not clearly visible way to set it systemwide.
[03:27] <giblets> steaming. steaming is good. hot soup. dumplings.
[03:28] <giblets> pile. I like having a pile of money, or record albums.
[03:28] <giblets> hot. hot is good. we like hot chicks, and soup.
[03:29] <giblets> "garbage" is such an unkind word.  when I find the right word to go with steaming. hot. pile. of ___. I'll let you know
[03:30] <giblets> until then, I'll have lots of fun! I love backing up all my data, wiping the disk, and reverting. to debian.
[07:54] <yossarianuk> best news for desktop Linux for ages : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Better-Gaming-Drivers
[07:55] <yossarianuk> not having the latest nvidia drivers harms gamers at present...
[07:56] <alvin> Nouveau would even be better
[07:57] <yossarianuk> alvin: you mean 'will' ? I assume
[07:58] <yossarianuk> you would be totally insane to pay good money for a Nvidia GPU then reduce its speed by about 80% by running the Nouveau driver (in its present state)
[07:58] <alvin> Well, currently NVIDIA drivers are best for gaming, but nouveau is easier to install and more stable, right? So, they need work to also be good at gaming
[07:58] <yossarianuk> may as well stick with on-board intel graphics ...
[07:59] <alvin> That would break plasma :-p
[07:59] <yossarianuk> I can't wait for nouveau to equal/beat the speed of the binary driver - can't see it happening for many years though
[08:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:01] <yossarianuk> so for gamers having latest nvidia driver is a good thing.... the issues outlined with shadow of mordor prove that ubuntu at least provide an easy way of getting the latest driver.
[08:03] <alvin> Oh, yes. Used to be much harder before DKMS. But FreeBSD can provide the latest drivers in a timely manner, so why shouldn't Ubuntu be able to.
[08:03] <yossarianuk> sticking with a driver with known bugs in, in the name of stability is wrong imo.
[08:04] <yossarianuk>  Also not having the latest driver easily available (personally i'm using the latest 355.06 - but had to manually install the .RUN file)  make it seem that Windows is a better gaming system - when it wouldn't be if only the Linux user had easy access to latest.
[08:04] <yossarianuk> anyway - i'm happy with this announcement
[08:39] <alvin> More or less. I would even be happier if NVIDIA announced documentation.
[09:05] <yossarianuk>  hi - are there any plans re-add to plasma5 the ability to have different backgrounds / per workspace ? (i.e like you could on KDE4?)
[09:12] <yossarianuk> ts a handy feature as I used to have a different background to represent if I were working on the DEV/QA/PRD layers...
[09:13] <lordievader> Wasn't the idea that you have activities for that?
[09:14] <yossarianuk> lordievader: you can do it with activities ?
[09:15] <soee_> you can and you should use activities for this
[09:15] <soee_> as few times already mentioned, virtual desktop wont have such feature in Plasma 5
[09:16] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Yes, that is the idea of activities. Virtual desktops are meant to be related in task, activities are meant to be different in task. (Read something along those lines somewhere)
[09:16] <zaggynl> hello, what's the password for the livecd user "it" ?
[09:17] <zaggynl> laptop fell asleep, am now stuck at screensaver lock screen
[09:17] <soee_> no password or maybe: admin or root
[09:18] <zaggynl> I tried: blank, admin, root, ti, it, kubuntu, ubuntu
[09:18] <lordievader> No password, shouldn't have one...
[09:18] <zaggynl> unlocking failed
[09:19] <yossarianuk> ars
[09:19] <zaggynl> oh, usb didn't like standby/resume
[09:19] <yossarianuk> (sorry..)
[09:19] <zaggynl> IO errors on passwd from different tty
[09:19] <zaggynl> reboot go
[09:23] <yossarianuk> lordievader: hmmm - I can see it kind of works... would be easier just to have different backgrounds for workspaces imo...
[09:23] <yossarianuk> thanks
[09:47] <yossarianuk> one other issue I am having with KDE/firefox is that it defaulting to the wrong applications to open files.
[09:47] <yossarianuk> i.e - to open .zip files KDE is set to use ARK, but firefox opens in xarchiver - how can I sort this ?
[09:48] <yossarianuk> I note there used to be a 'firefox-kde-support' package a while ago - cannot find this now.
[09:49] <yossarianuk> is there a way to make firefox open file types with correct KDE applications ?
[09:49] <lordievader> Firefox seems to use its own database for opening things.
[09:50] <yossarianuk> roll on Fiber......
[09:50] <yossarianuk> I really do not like using Chrome.... - so is the best way to manually edit the mimetypes file in firefox dir ?
[09:58] <lordievader> No idea, I don't use Firefox.
[10:25] <surgy> i have been trying to get my graphics tablet to be restricted to one screen for a while now and finally found the command. I am running kubuntu 14.04 lts with kernal 3.19...... now that i have the command i would like to know, how do i make it so that the command runs whenever i first boot into kde (or X) everytime i start the computer? here is the command that works :: xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"
[10:25] <surgy>  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 1
[10:37] <danakil> hello :) I've just upgraded my Kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5.3.2 and Framework 5.12 and Telepathy don't work anymore. I can't create a Google account (there is no Google entry in Account manager)
[10:38] <danakil> I tried to install Kopete but there is no providers at all (Google or anything else) when I try to create an account from the Kopete config
[10:38] <danakil> any idea please ?
[10:39] <surgy> thats why i use lts :) less bugs
[10:40] <danakil> not really an answer but yes, you're right ;)
[10:41] <danakil> actually this is my main work pc and this release has a kwin fix that I really needed
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <InspectorCluseau> system upgraded to firefox 40 and now all I get is a white firefox screen with the top buttons
[12:33] <soee> InspectorCluseau: how did you upgrade ?
[12:33] <InspectorCluseau> using the upgrade manager
[12:34] <InspectorCluseau> "software manager"
[12:34] <InspectorCluseau> "software manager" er updater
[12:34] <soee> Kubuntu?
[12:34] <InspectorCluseau> yes
[12:34] <soee> hmm  i have 38 here on Wily
[12:36] <soee> InspectorCluseau: can't help much, on Wily we have 38 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox and it works fine
[12:36] <soee> BluesKaj: are you on Vivid ?
[12:36] <InspectorCluseau> according to release note Mozilla tweaked the graphics on 40 ... must be that is the issue
[12:36] <soee> try to disablng hardware acceleration
[12:37] <InspectorCluseau> in Firefox? how
[12:37] <soee> InspectorCluseau: if iths enabled this migh thelp http://www.silicongadget.com/internet/browsers/enable-firefox-hardware-acceleration-on-linux/2791/
[12:38] <InspectorCluseau> I'll bet it requires the use of FF preferences .... which can't be accessed with a blank screen
[12:39] <BluesKaj> soee: on Wily here
[12:39] <soee> BluesKaj: can you confirm that FF 40 is broken somehow on Vivid ?
[12:39] <InspectorCluseau> 14.04 LTS here
[12:39] <soee> ahhh
[12:39] <BluesKaj> don't have vivid, soee
[12:39] <soee> ah sorry, anyway InspectorCluseauis on LTS
[12:40] <soee> InspectorCluseau: are you using any fancy plugns or something that might cause this problem ?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> using 14.10 as my main OS, but testing Wily atm
[12:41] <soee> InspectorCluseau: you might want to try: backup and remove .mozilla/Firefox folder
[12:41] <soee> in your home directory
[12:41] <soee> BluesKaj: are you on latest updateson Wily ?
[12:41] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I suspect you know Utopic is EOL?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> guess my pc is getting too old for the likes of Wily 15.10 since it takes 3mins to get a desktop
[12:42] <InspectorCluseau> already replaced the whole .mozilla folder with a known good one ... same issue
[12:42] <BluesKaj> lordievader:  I don't care, it runs fine on this pc and it has the features I want that have been dropped from plasma5
[12:43] <lordievader> I was afraid of that answer. Still it is better to downgrade to Trusty.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> InspectorCluseau:  I gave up on FF, switch to chrome, itworks fine
[12:44] <BluesKaj> lordievader:  why?
[12:44] <lordievader> Because Trusty is supported.
[12:44] <soee> life on edge is better - use Wily :D
[12:44] <BluesKaj> well , I'll take my chabces
[12:45] <BluesKaj> soee: not when it takes away most of my fav features to replace them with eye candy that don't even like
[12:45] <BluesKaj> err chances
[13:10] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: if its taking 3 mins there must be an issue with some of the startup- systemd services.
[13:11] <yossarianuk> try to boot up so you can see the boot messages
[13:11] <yossarianuk> i.e - http://askubuntu.com/questions/558366/how-to-show-boot-messages-in-14-10
[13:11] <yossarianuk> I'm finding wily more stable than vivid...
[13:12] <yossarianuk> lots of little issues/annoyances seem fixed in 15.10
[13:12] <BluesKaj> yes, same here yossarianuk ..vivid is pretty clunky
[13:13] <soee> plu
[13:16] <yossarianuk> but if its taking 4 mins to boot I suggest enabling boot messages and seeing whats going on...
[13:17] <yossarianuk> In the old days (15 years ago) most distros you could just press a key to see them......  now you have to edit the grub kernel lines....
[13:17] <yossarianuk> progress ........
[13:19] <alvin> yossarianuk: plymouth and such haven't been around for 15 years! It's much more recent. Also, it's the first thing I restore on a fresh install. You /have/ to see the boot messages.
[13:24] <yossarianuk> but surely plymouth could have added an option to see them?
[13:29] <InspectorCluseau> moved back to the last FF and with some adjustment all is back to normal
[13:30] <InspectorCluseau> I'll try 40 on a different installation
[13:30] <InspectorCluseau> like my Vbox
[13:48] <danakil> [14:39] <soee> BluesKaj: can you confirm that FF 40 is broken somehow on Vivid ?    just for information, I don't have any problem with FF40 on Kubuntu  15.04 + nvidia drivers
[13:57] <anabain> nfs question: I've got a dir /media bound through /etc/fstab with rbind option to the dir /shared/media (777, root:root). I can list/shared/media contents at the server, but not in the client, which mounts the share under /home/user/server. Also at the client, I can, however, access to the /home/user/server/home_user contents. I have the same reversed configuration between these two boxes, and everything works fine. What's the problem? (
[13:57] <anabain> export options are, in both cases:  /shared  client_ip(rw,sync,fsid=0,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash,crossmnt)  ;  user and UID are the same)
[14:13] <lordievader> anabain: I'm confused by your description. I'll just ask: On the server what dir is exported?
[14:31] <anabain> ok, lordievader : /media and /home/user dirs are respectively bound to /shared/media (777 root:root) and /shared/home/user (777 user:user). The exported one is /shared (777 root:root)
[14:31] <lordievader> Ok, why the 777 <- is a very bad permission setting.
[14:32] <lordievader> Also for as far as I know, nfs doesn't like to cross mount points.
[14:33] <anabain> Regarding 777, I was following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[14:34] <anabain> ok, I'll remove crossmnt, then
[14:34] <anabain> but the funny thing is that the setting works in one direction, but not in the opposite...
[14:35] <lordievader> Can /shared be mounted from clients?
[14:37] <anabain> yes, as I said, I can access the home_user contents from the client, and I can also see the media dirs, but not their content (both are hdds xfs formated, one partition for every hdd))
[14:39] <lordievader> Hmm, and /home/users and /shared/media are mounted in the same way into /shared?
[14:40] <anabain> yes, but I'm thinking if crossmnt has anything to do with this...
[14:41] <lordievader> Well, my experience is that nfs doesn't like to cross boundaries.
[14:42] <anabain> ok, I'll check that
[14:42] <anabain> which permissions do you suggest for the bound shared dirs?
[14:45] <lordievader> anabain: The minimum needed.
[17:57] <arsen0> hi kubuntu people  !
[17:57] <arsen0> having problems with lightdm, it is not taking the given settings
[18:02] <BluesKaj> qr which kubuntu version?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> arsen0: ^
[18:18] <arsen0> kubuntu 14.04
[18:19] <arsen0> ladmin@kubuntu-01:~$ sudo cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [SeatDefaults] allow-guest=false greeter-show-manual-login=true greeter-hide-users=true
[18:19] <arsen0> only the guest line get applied
[18:47] <BluesKaj> arsen0:  reboot , at he login screen, ctl+alt+ f1-f6 to bring up the VT/TTY . login as yourself, then sudo service lightdm enable, then startx
[18:48] <BluesKaj> or sudo service lightdm start
[18:48] <BluesKaj> arsen0: ^
[19:00] <arsen0> lightdm starts ok, but not with the right config....
[19:00] <arsen0> i did a quick fix: remove lightdm, install kdm. works fine
[19:00] <arsen0> thnx
[19:36] <ari-tczew> does anybody know how to fix an error message on booting, before graphic environment start: "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type (...) or "D" to try again to boot into default mode." ?
[19:46] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew:  did you just re-install an OS ot dist-upgrade and reboot ?
[19:57] <ari-tczew> BluesKaj: no, it happens since 2 weaks or so
[20:26] <lordievader> ari-tczew: Investigate why it is going into systemd emergency mode. Likely cannot mount something.
[21:22] <surgy> hello
[21:22] <surgy> is anyone around?
[21:29] <surgy> can someone recommend a good piano program? i want to be able to play a piano using my keyboard :)_
[21:42] <akasic> heyo
[21:42] <soee> hiho
[21:43] <akasic> hoho
[22:49] <surgy> ok im running kubuntu 14.04 with kernal 3.19 and im having a problem restricting my graphics tablet to one monitor. i know the command. but im getting an error.... something about multiple devices sharing the same name..... in the following pasteall i have xinput list lsusb and then i ran the command. so that you can see the error and the three "hv huion" that its reffereing to. can someone help me sort out the error please so that the command
[22:49] <surgy>  will run? here is the paste :: http://www.pasteall.org/60428
[22:58] <surgy> how do i issue this command and use the specific device ID  or prefix instead of "hv Huion" ? :: xinput set-prop "HV Huion" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix"  0.5530726257 0 0.4469273743 0 1 0 0 0 1
[23:26] <josue> hola