| Kamilion | C0deGyver: what was the issue? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| Kamilion | one of the sticks was not fully seated or something? | 00:02 |
| C0deGyver | well my bro helped me pick out the RAM I thought he had picked up 8GB sticks... but they are only 4GB sticks... | 00:03 |
| C0deGyver | so it is showing correctly... | 00:03 |
| C0deGyver | not sure I am going to mess with returning the ram for the upgrade 32GB was way overkill I think | 00:04 |
| C0deGyver | kinda pissed at my bro now...... grrr | 00:05 |
| Kamilion | RAM is never overkill | 00:05 |
| Kamilion | your main memory transfers data at approximately 20,000MB/sec | 00:05 |
| Kamilion | your disk can deal with 200MB tops unless it's an SSD | 00:05 |
| Kamilion | It's almost always to your benefit to fill a machine full of *inexpensive* (not cheap) ram | 00:06 |
| C0deGyver | lol too true... so one last question (sorry)... if I install now with my 16GB of RAM and latter upgrade will I have to reinstall? | 00:06 |
| Kamilion | windows/linux will use the remaining free ram as a disk cache | 00:06 |
| Kamilion | nope | 00:06 |
| Kamilion | memory size is determined every boot | 00:06 |
| Kamilion | the only thing you can't do on a consumer system is hotadd/hotremove memory | 00:07 |
| Kamilion | that's reserved for 'real' servers you find in racked chassis | 00:07 |
| C0deGyver | sweet... was hoping you'd say that.... and the main drive (OS & software) is a 64GB ssd | 00:07 |
| Kamilion | intending on using it as one big server, or splitting it up with virtual machines? | 00:08 |
| C0deGyver | one big server... mainly TS, a few games like minecraft, a FTP / media server | 00:08 |
| Kamilion | ugh, TS. | 00:09 |
| Kamilion | I use mumble myself, cause of TS's pricing | 00:09 |
| Kamilion | also, avoid using classic FTP | 00:09 |
| Kamilion | if you're stuck with it, make sure you're using a modern ftpd that supports ssl like vsftpd | 00:09 |
| C0deGyver | I use TS free... and using open_ssh for ftp | 00:10 |
| Kamilion | but really, winscp.net for windows will let you use sftp from windows | 00:10 |
| Kamilion | and osx/linux all have the sftp/scp binaries available if openssh is around | 00:10 |
| C0deGyver | I thought windows clients can use filezilla to connect to openssh | 00:11 |
| Kamilion | if you ever feel like messing around with VMs, feel free to check out my lubuntu server image, kamikazi. | 00:11 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-deploy | 00:11 |
| Kamilion | yeah, filezilla also supports sftp | 00:11 |
| Kamilion | I happen to prefer winscp's interface though, since it supports putty/kitty's public key server pagent | 00:12 |
| Kamilion | i don't like having to unlock my privatekey to filezilla every time I connect | 00:12 |
| Kamilion | osx has a keychain, and linux has ssh-add | 00:13 |
| C0deGyver | Kamilion you have been awsom (putting up with my n00by ways) so has wxl.. if this was stackexchange I would up vote | 00:14 |
| Kamilion | we were all newbies once. | 00:14 |
| C0deGyver | you ar a bit over my head with that :(... server pagent? | 00:14 |
| wxl | no problem | 00:14 |
| Kamilion | the only way not to be is gaining experience | 00:14 |
| Kamilion | on windows, putty has a tool called pageant.exe | 00:14 |
| wxl | the best thing you can do to give back is contribute to the project ;) | 00:14 |
| Kamilion | it loads a .ppk privatekey | 00:14 |
| Kamilion | so you unlock your key once and other apps like kitty/putty/winscp can use the unlocked key | 00:15 |
| Kamilion | i have mine set so it locks if my screensaver comes on or the system goes to sleep | 00:15 |
| C0deGyver | I see... so I should go with winscp? | 00:16 |
| Kamilion | that's up to you | 00:16 |
| Kamilion | both filezilla and winscp are free | 00:16 |
| Kamilion | if you happen to like winscp better, then that's your pick! :D | 00:16 |
| C0deGyver | only reason for openssh is because I know it.. (used it before) | 00:16 |
| Kamilion | http://www.9bis.net/kitty/?page=Welcome&zone=en <--- i like using kitty (a fork of putty) | 00:17 |
| C0deGyver | wow I feel like an dummy... you were talking about client software... not server... lol | 00:17 |
| Kamilion | https://winscp.net/eng/docs/screenshots | 00:18 |
| Kamilion | yeah. | 00:18 |
| Kamilion | 'openssh' is the server. it includes a file called 'sftp-server' and runs it instead of 'bash', which is actually what does the file transfers over the SSH channels. | 00:18 |
| C0deGyver | so still openssh on my server with winscp on my client | 00:19 |
| Kamilion | openssh also supports a VPN mode | 00:19 |
| Kamilion | but so far there's no windows client for it :< | 00:19 |
| C0deGyver | that is okay.. I use TeamViewer for that | 00:19 |
| Kamilion | that's remote desktop | 00:20 |
| Kamilion | VPN would add you remotely to the LAN | 00:20 |
| Kamilion | so for example, you could type in http://192.168.1.1/ while VPN'd and get the REMOTE SIDE'S router | 00:20 |
| C0deGyver | yea but is also kinda VPN cause you can copy host-guest and the other way | 00:20 |
| Kamilion | sure, you can remote desktop in, and then use the local clients to do network fileshare access or open a browser | 00:21 |
| Kamilion | I do that all the time too | 00:21 |
| C0deGyver | don't know much about VPN (obvously) but FTP combine with ssh and TeamViewer... I can do everything I need to | 00:21 |
| Kamilion | VPN's more useful when there's a bunch of servers on the remote end and you're talking to more than a few of them at once | 00:21 |
| Kamilion | yep | 00:22 |
| Kamilion | C0deGyver: since you don't seem to be too familiar with the linux space, you might also look at x2go http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php | 00:22 |
| Kamilion | it's similar to teamviewer, providing remote desktop to linux servers | 00:22 |
| C0deGyver | I see... this is not a business set up probably don't't need VPN | 00:23 |
| C0deGyver | yea... still getting useto Linux over windows only been using it for a year. :) | 00:23 |
| Kamilion | http://puu.sh/jydyP/5bb65da2e3.jpg | 00:25 |
| Kamilion | here's a screenshot | 00:25 |
| Kamilion | it feels just like sitting at the computer | 00:25 |
| Kamilion | 3D applications like my cool retro terminal work fine | 00:25 |
| Kamilion | youtube video plays | 00:25 |
| Kamilion | sound works | 00:26 |
| Kamilion | trying to print shows both remote and local printers | 00:26 |
| Kamilion | since you're starting out, you might actually wanna play around with my ISO | 00:27 |
| C0deGyver | hmm... very cool... but I am too use to the GUI to use terminal that much.... thus me using lubuntu instead of ubuntu server | 00:27 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-deploy | 00:27 |
| Kamilion | http://files.sllabs.com/files/storage/xen/kamikazi/boot/isos/kamikazi64.iso <--- linked from the readme | 00:27 |
| Kamilion | I took lubuntu and added a bunch of server-related stuff | 00:27 |
| Kamilion | it's set up to act as an "appliance image" | 00:27 |
| Kamilion | which means you put it on something like a 2GB/4GB usb stick and boot from there, without needing to install anything | 00:28 |
| Kamilion | when it starts up, it loads everything into RAM and the usb stick *can* be removed (although I leave it in) | 00:28 |
| Kamilion | but since you've got a reasonably blank system right now -- it's the perfect time to mess around with a livecd containing server stuff, since you can't really hurt your server when it's still blank :) | 00:29 |
| C0deGyver | interesting.. but mos of it would probably be over my head... think I will stick with my plan... though I appreciate the advice | 00:30 |
| Kamilion | but it's definitely a fast-start into all of the 'modern' linux services you'll run into today | 00:30 |
| C0deGyver | true. | 00:30 |
| Kamilion | openvswitch lets you treat any network port like a switch | 00:30 |
| Kamilion | ceph lets you bridge together many harddrives on many servers into one big filesystem | 00:31 |
| C0deGyver | noticed you are not using the LTS version any reason I should not as well? | 00:31 |
| Kamilion | rethinkdb does database clustering without needing a master (every system is a master) | 00:32 |
| Kamilion | i'm in the middle of transitioning to the new init system found in 15.04, systemd | 00:32 |
| C0deGyver | yea... you are so far over my head I can't even see you (lol) | 00:32 |
| Kamilion | it will become the default in 16.04 (april 2016's release) | 00:32 |
| Kamilion | so I am updating things early before the next LTS (16.04) | 00:33 |
| C0deGyver | cool | 00:33 |
| Kamilion | so it's all debugged and working for an LTS | 00:33 |
| Kamilion | you, want to stick to the LTS | 00:33 |
| Kamilion | because you're doing an installation | 00:33 |
| Kamilion | mine is an appliance image -- you just replace the .iso to upgrade | 00:33 |
| Kamilion | there's no installation | 00:33 |
| C0deGyver | once again I cannot thank you enough for the help | 00:34 |
| Kamilion | one big 900MB file gets changed out for a new 900MB file with newer packages | 00:34 |
| Kamilion | anytime -- just highlight me if there's any other hardware-style questions | 00:34 |
| Kamilion | I'm terrible at software development though | 00:34 |
| Kamilion | oh, and some advice | 00:35 |
| Kamilion | if you're doing web hosting | 00:35 |
| Kamilion | use nginx, not apache | 00:35 |
| C0deGyver | if I thought I would understand more of the stuff you have changed I might use yours... but I am new to linux still and veen newer to servers.. (this is my first) | 00:35 |
| Kamilion | you'll see a lot (and i mean A LOT) of howtos and stuff still using apache | 00:35 |
| Kamilion | but it's old and memory hungry and kind of creaky | 00:35 |
| Kamilion | and way tougher to configure than it should be | 00:36 |
| Kamilion | so save yourself some headache and use a newer one like nginx that has a simple config file | 00:36 |
| C0deGyver | not hosing a website so I am good there. I have to go now.. supper time and I am starving :) | 00:36 |
| Kamilion | http://www.zentyal.org/ | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | save that link before ya go | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | it's the easy way into an ubuntu server | 00:37 |
| C0deGyver | saved thanks and bye | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | takes care of all the config for you | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | just use your web browser to configure it | 00:37 |
| C0deGyver | cool | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | like a router | 00:37 |
| C0deGyver | bye | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | cheers, enjoy your dinner. | 00:37 |
| Kamilion | i just wish zentyal didn't use apache :< | 00:38 |
| ianorlin | Kamilion: wow blast from the past talking about wayland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoOlDzRcKY | 01:15 |
| Kamilion | hahah, good ol' dave | 01:15 |
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| linux_ | Hello I need help. | 21:12 |
| wxl | ask away mr. linux_ | 21:12 |
| linux_ | Every time I log off my wallpaper and icon placement gets reset. I tried deleting my lxsession folder as it says here since it sounded like a similar problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/451858/blank-desktop-after-upgrading-lubuntu-to-the-next-version | 21:14 |
| linux_ | using latest Lubuntu btw | 21:14 |
| linux_ | hello? | 21:28 |
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| RandomUser_ | Hi guys | 22:59 |
| RandomUser_ | Hi guys, I have some problems creating links to files on my desktop. I can't find an option to make an alias on my desktop through PC File Manager | 23:00 |
| RandomUser_ | Hi guys | 23:02 |
| RandomUser_ | Problem solved | 23:03 |
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