[00:02] C0deGyver: what was the issue? [00:02] one of the sticks was not fully seated or something? [00:03] well my bro helped me pick out the RAM I thought he had picked up 8GB sticks... but they are only 4GB sticks... [00:03] so it is showing correctly... [00:04] not sure I am going to mess with returning the ram for the upgrade 32GB was way overkill I think [00:05] kinda pissed at my bro now...... grrr [00:05] RAM is never overkill [00:05] your main memory transfers data at approximately 20,000MB/sec [00:05] your disk can deal with 200MB tops unless it's an SSD [00:06] It's almost always to your benefit to fill a machine full of *inexpensive* (not cheap) ram [00:06] lol too true... so one last question (sorry)... if I install now with my 16GB of RAM and latter upgrade will I have to reinstall? [00:06] windows/linux will use the remaining free ram as a disk cache [00:06] nope [00:06] memory size is determined every boot [00:07] the only thing you can't do on a consumer system is hotadd/hotremove memory [00:07] that's reserved for 'real' servers you find in racked chassis [00:07] sweet... was hoping you'd say that.... and the main drive (OS & software) is a 64GB ssd [00:08] intending on using it as one big server, or splitting it up with virtual machines? [00:08] one big server... mainly TS, a few games like minecraft, a FTP / media server [00:09] ugh, TS. [00:09] I use mumble myself, cause of TS's pricing [00:09] also, avoid using classic FTP [00:09] if you're stuck with it, make sure you're using a modern ftpd that supports ssl like vsftpd [00:10] I use TS free... and using open_ssh for ftp [00:10] but really, winscp.net for windows will let you use sftp from windows [00:10] and osx/linux all have the sftp/scp binaries available if openssh is around [00:11] I thought windows clients can use filezilla to connect to openssh [00:11] if you ever feel like messing around with VMs, feel free to check out my lubuntu server image, kamikazi. [00:11] https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-deploy [00:11] yeah, filezilla also supports sftp [00:12] I happen to prefer winscp's interface though, since it supports putty/kitty's public key server pagent [00:12] i don't like having to unlock my privatekey to filezilla every time I connect [00:13] osx has a keychain, and linux has ssh-add [00:14] Kamilion you have been awsom (putting up with my n00by ways) so has wxl.. if this was stackexchange I would up vote [00:14] we were all newbies once. [00:14] you ar a bit over my head with that :(... server pagent? [00:14] no problem [00:14] the only way not to be is gaining experience [00:14] on windows, putty has a tool called pageant.exe [00:14] the best thing you can do to give back is contribute to the project ;) [00:14] it loads a .ppk privatekey [00:15] so you unlock your key once and other apps like kitty/putty/winscp can use the unlocked key [00:15] i have mine set so it locks if my screensaver comes on or the system goes to sleep [00:16] I see... so I should go with winscp? [00:16] that's up to you [00:16] both filezilla and winscp are free [00:16] if you happen to like winscp better, then that's your pick! :D [00:16] only reason for openssh is because I know it.. (used it before) [00:17] http://www.9bis.net/kitty/?page=Welcome&zone=en <--- i like using kitty (a fork of putty) [00:17] wow I feel like an dummy... you were talking about client software... not server... lol [00:18] https://winscp.net/eng/docs/screenshots [00:18] yeah. [00:18] 'openssh' is the server. it includes a file called 'sftp-server' and runs it instead of 'bash', which is actually what does the file transfers over the SSH channels. [00:19] so still openssh on my server with winscp on my client [00:19] openssh also supports a VPN mode [00:19] but so far there's no windows client for it :< [00:19] that is okay.. I use TeamViewer for that [00:20] that's remote desktop [00:20] VPN would add you remotely to the LAN [00:20] so for example, you could type in http://192.168.1.1/ while VPN'd and get the REMOTE SIDE'S router [00:20] yea but is also kinda VPN cause you can copy host-guest and the other way [00:21] sure, you can remote desktop in, and then use the local clients to do network fileshare access or open a browser [00:21] I do that all the time too [00:21] don't know much about VPN (obvously) but FTP combine with ssh and TeamViewer... I can do everything I need to [00:21] VPN's more useful when there's a bunch of servers on the remote end and you're talking to more than a few of them at once [00:22] yep [00:22] C0deGyver: since you don't seem to be too familiar with the linux space, you might also look at x2go http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php [00:22] it's similar to teamviewer, providing remote desktop to linux servers [00:23] I see... this is not a business set up probably don't't need VPN [00:23] yea... still getting useto Linux over windows only been using it for a year. :) [00:25] http://puu.sh/jydyP/5bb65da2e3.jpg [00:25] here's a screenshot [00:25] it feels just like sitting at the computer [00:25] 3D applications like my cool retro terminal work fine [00:25] youtube video plays [00:26] sound works [00:26] trying to print shows both remote and local printers [00:27] since you're starting out, you might actually wanna play around with my ISO [00:27] hmm... very cool... but I am too use to the GUI to use terminal that much.... thus me using lubuntu instead of ubuntu server [00:27] https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-deploy [00:27] http://files.sllabs.com/files/storage/xen/kamikazi/boot/isos/kamikazi64.iso <--- linked from the readme [00:27] I took lubuntu and added a bunch of server-related stuff [00:27] it's set up to act as an "appliance image" [00:28] which means you put it on something like a 2GB/4GB usb stick and boot from there, without needing to install anything [00:28] when it starts up, it loads everything into RAM and the usb stick *can* be removed (although I leave it in) [00:29] but since you've got a reasonably blank system right now -- it's the perfect time to mess around with a livecd containing server stuff, since you can't really hurt your server when it's still blank :) [00:30] interesting.. but mos of it would probably be over my head... think I will stick with my plan... though I appreciate the advice [00:30] but it's definitely a fast-start into all of the 'modern' linux services you'll run into today [00:30] true. [00:30] openvswitch lets you treat any network port like a switch [00:31] ceph lets you bridge together many harddrives on many servers into one big filesystem [00:31] noticed you are not using the LTS version any reason I should not as well? [00:32] rethinkdb does database clustering without needing a master (every system is a master) [00:32] i'm in the middle of transitioning to the new init system found in 15.04, systemd [00:32] yea... you are so far over my head I can't even see you (lol) [00:32] it will become the default in 16.04 (april 2016's release) [00:33] so I am updating things early before the next LTS (16.04) [00:33] cool [00:33] so it's all debugged and working for an LTS [00:33] you, want to stick to the LTS [00:33] because you're doing an installation [00:33] mine is an appliance image -- you just replace the .iso to upgrade [00:33] there's no installation [00:34] once again I cannot thank you enough for the help [00:34] one big 900MB file gets changed out for a new 900MB file with newer packages [00:34] anytime -- just highlight me if there's any other hardware-style questions [00:34] I'm terrible at software development though [00:35] oh, and some advice [00:35] if you're doing web hosting [00:35] use nginx, not apache [00:35] if I thought I would understand more of the stuff you have changed I might use yours... but I am new to linux still and veen newer to servers.. (this is my first) [00:35] you'll see a lot (and i mean A LOT) of howtos and stuff still using apache [00:35] but it's old and memory hungry and kind of creaky [00:36] and way tougher to configure than it should be [00:36] so save yourself some headache and use a newer one like nginx that has a simple config file [00:36] not hosing a website so I am good there. I have to go now.. supper time and I am starving :) [00:37] http://www.zentyal.org/ [00:37] save that link before ya go [00:37] it's the easy way into an ubuntu server [00:37] saved thanks and bye [00:37] takes care of all the config for you [00:37] just use your web browser to configure it [00:37] cool [00:37] like a router [00:37] bye [00:37] cheers, enjoy your dinner. [00:38] i just wish zentyal didn't use apache :< [01:15] Kamilion: wow blast from the past talking about wayland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoOlDzRcKY [01:15] hahah, good ol' dave === BWMerlin1 is now known as BWMerlin === Guest55878 is now known as IdleOne [21:12] Hello I need help. [21:12] ask away mr. linux_ [21:14] Every time I log off my wallpaper and icon placement gets reset. I tried deleting my lxsession folder as it says here since it sounded like a similar problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/451858/blank-desktop-after-upgrading-lubuntu-to-the-next-version [21:14] using latest Lubuntu btw [21:28] hello? === benonsoftware is now known as MerryChristmas === LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away === IdleOne- is now known as IdleOne [22:59] Hi guys [23:00] Hi guys, I have some problems creating links to files on my desktop. I can't find an option to make an alias on my desktop through PC File Manager [23:02] Hi guys [23:03] Problem solved