[00:00] <wileee> I know a guy, just strums the guitar hard and sings his songs and refuses to learn any technique, feeling the creativity will carry them. However it has not, they barely improve, however they are happy in that view, I say nothing but sounds good man. ;)
[00:04] <daftykins> brb
[00:04] <JanC> https://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/368694/pia-fraus
[00:04] <JanC> wileee: some friends of me ^^^
[00:06] <OerHeks> "dit is jouw ritme" i like this one, as a ringtone or wakeup-sound
[00:06] <JanC> (that band doesn't exist any more though)
[00:09] <wileee> JanC, I like it, anything with genre mixing and dissonance musically or social comment...etc gets my vote
[00:09] <JanC> OerHeks: you can download it for free :)
[00:10] <OerHeks> It is a nice site, you showed me that before :-)
[00:10] <OerHeks> If i could play an istrument, i would publish there too.
[00:11] <JanC> Drops, Splashes, etc. is also a good track
[00:11] <JanC> with that old wind-up music box
[00:13] <wileee> I watched a bio on Ray Kurzweil, this is all you need OerHeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Neivqp2K4
[00:22] <JanC> this is the new project from the singer & graphics artist of pIA fRAUS: https://soundcloud.com/embersnoise
[00:23] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Is preparing to be a dentist ? Practicing pulling info to get the feel of pulling teeth .
[00:24] <daftykins> :D
[00:25] <OerHeks> never seen a pastebin with a paste.ubuntu.com url before ...
[00:26] <wileee> JanC, I'm good friends with the guitar player here, they were basically industrial hip pop, early in hip pops start.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjqdEfRW0j4
[00:26] <daftykins> bunches of idiots :/
[00:26] <daftykins> OerHeks: yeah that's a record :>
[00:27] <JanC> ooh, Consolidated
[00:27] <wileee> an amazing player, we donate our muisc time to a homeless org, traing the kids  etc
[00:27] <JanC> wileee: I actually have one of their albums  :)
[00:27] <wileee> an amazing band in their own right really
[00:27] <wileee> cool
[00:27] <JanC> any of your own music online?
[00:28] <wileee> JanC, Nah, jazz is hardly ever recorded and I have just not bothered, I don't play as often anymore.
[00:28] <JanC> I have their "Play More Music" album
[00:29] <wileee> cool, excellent album, Adam gives his all to the general community, he is in it for the long hall.
[00:31] <JanC> like most people around here, I got to know them from the “You Suck” single by Consolidated feat The Yeastie Girls
[00:31] <JanC> but I guess most people never bought their album  :)
[00:33] <JanC> you could say that that single was sort of an underground hit in Europe  :)
[00:34] <wileee> Heh, yeah probably, my favorite is The Typical Male, I met Adam when a friend got the drum spot in the late 90's, Adam lived locally. Todd Breyerton is the drummers name, his step brother and professional upright bass and violin player Rob Thomas, has played the scene in NY, with pop and Jazz groups.
[00:35] <wileee> with Debbie Harry and Elvis Costello, forget the group name
[00:36] <JanC> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoyUUu1rPhE (possibly NSFW lyrics :P )
[00:37] <JanC> wileee: interesting
[00:37] <JanC> Rob Thomas seems like a name I know
[00:38] <JanC> but there probably are many Rob Thomas  :)
[00:38] <wileee> heh yeah common names
[00:38] <JanC> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Thomas_%28musician%29 ?
[00:39] <JanC> Tabitha's Secret, Matchbox Twenty, Jewel, ...
[00:40] <wileee> JanC, THis is him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afXyAZ3eA0Y
[00:41] <wileee> playing Mahavishnu, one of my faves by them
[00:41] <JanC> so probably another Rob Thomas
[00:42] <JanC> but still cool too
[00:45] <wileee> This all brings back really happy memories of when I played more often and the level of players I was lucky to play with. ;)
[00:45] <JanC> :)
[00:48] <JanC> maybe one of my nieces can learn to play jazz...
[00:49] <JanC> she learns to play the flute at the music school but they complain that although she plays rather well, she often doesn't play what is on the music sheets and improvises instead  ;)
[00:50] <daftykins> little cheat!
[00:50] <JanC> which is somewhat annoying when she's supposed to play a duet with a fellow student & such  :)
[00:51] <JanC> well, annoying for that other student & the teacher at least
[01:02] <wileee> heh, I did the same, playing the notes transposed to within the harmony, like  5th away
[01:02] <wileee> a*
[01:11] <wileee> JanC, Turn her onto this cat, I've met him, very unusual tone and style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTp9mjI04kM
[01:11] <wileee> he's a monster
[01:13] <wileee> heh, the drummer on this lives locally as well
[01:14] <wileee> and that what a solid gold haynes flute sounds like
[01:15] <JanC> she's only 9yo you know, so she doesn't really know what "jazz" is
[01:15] <JanC> but I can try to see if she likes it  :)
[01:16] <wileee> JanC, Sure, does not have to be jazz, just the exposure to top rate players can help, your there though you know what's best for her.
[01:18] <JanC> \o/ for youtube-dl
[01:21] <wileee> I saw the last rehearsal of Lew and his former wifes album "Tanuki's Night Out" at the musicians union in LA, and got to sit in with a trumpet player in the band's own progressive Jazz group, I was a junior in highschool, and traveling with our stage band there. I had met the trumpet player locally and help set up the meeting with our band director that end up being this trip
[01:22] <wileee> I was a go getter at meeting the great players when younger
[01:23] <wileee> not quite like meeting Linus, but half way there, lol
[01:23] <JanC> his former wife = Toshiko Akiyoshi?
[01:23] <wileee> yeah
[01:23] <wileee> meant to put the name in, she is an amazing artist herself
[01:24] <JanC> I guess meeting Linus's dad is easier than meeting Linus for me  :P
[01:24] <wileee> lol probably so
[01:24] <wileee> I'm not a fan of swearing
[01:24] <JanC> as his dad is a MEP (Member of European Parliament)
[01:25] <wileee> heh, kinda explains Linus, he is amazing, he knows it and wants to be sure we know it. ;)
[01:25] <JanC> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/114268/NILS_TORVALDS_home.html
[01:26] <wileee> you don't get to where they both are by not being highly intelligent
[01:30] <JanC> I know he's a member of EPFSUG at least (European Parliament Free Software User Group)
[01:31] <JanC> but I guess he owes that to his son  :)
[01:32] <JanC> well, not only a member but also a "patron"
[01:33] <JanC> which helps them to be a legitimized association inside the EP
[01:39] <wileee> yeah
[02:12] <JanC> you can set up a group with people working in the EP and also other people from outside, but if you want to use EP infrastructure (like a conference/meeting room), you need some MEPs to vouch for you by becoming a "patron"
[02:20] <wileee> makes sense there is a model there
[02:33] <wileee> will somebody kill kadiro please
[02:35] <daftykins> i'd like it if someone did
[02:35] <daftykins> guys an ass - and just hinders people since his english is so terrible
[02:36] <wileee> does not dig in, just gives what sounds like a google search
[02:37] <wileee> not investigated
[03:02]  * daftykins looks at titocaldo
[03:02] <daftykins> yeah not touching that one with a bargepole
[03:02] <daftykins> :>
[04:56] <wileee> someones off their meds, lol
[07:07] <tintedwindows> anybody wanna play me in Quake??
[08:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:03] <ObrienDave> o/
[08:26] <ObrienDave> *bangs head on keyboard*
[08:28] <lordievader> Hihi
[08:37] <wileee> just joined comcast, tech tried to charge me 70$ for flipping on comcast's switch, took a week and two calls to get it reversed
[08:38] <ObrienDave> our tech spent 7 hours tracing down 20 year-old cables to get mine working yesterday. ^5 to the tech
[08:39] <wileee> Poor guy was working in 103 weather, I wished I coild give him 150 really, but just don't have the 70
[08:41] <wileee> he was a portly fellow prop 400lbs or so, he was not having a good time in the heat
[08:42] <ObrienDave> i guess. my wife gave the tech survey all 10s for what he went through
[08:42] <wileee> I always do no matter what, you never know why there was an issue and people support families.
[08:45] <wileee> I have a couple stupid people complain they know the owner, at my job and they will get me fired, lol there not even smart enough to no better than proclaim that.
[08:45] <wileee> know*
[08:46] <ObrienDave> somebody told my step-son that. he replied, "lady, i AM the owner!" ROFL
[08:47] <wileee> I just said, you know, I know him to.
[08:47] <ObrienDave> lol that works
[08:48] <wileee> and offered his phone #
[08:50] <wileee> it is my college dream job, janitor/manager of a laundromat, heh, just a few bucks extra, at a flat rate, probably equals out to about 20 per hour spent at the lowest.
[08:53] <wileee> I've never seen more drama for 2$ lost in a user error of overloading a machine and having that pointed out, lol
[08:55] <ObrienDave> i like my new job. they hand me material, prints/models, decent machine and say "go have fun" LOL
[08:56] <wileee> that's the way it should be
[08:56] <ObrienDave> as long as it meets the specs, they don;t care how i make it :)
[09:01] <wileee> I'm extroverted so I like meeting the people, met some really interesting folks there made some new friends, not a bad situation really.
[09:01] <wileee> we just need a bar is all
[09:03] <ObrienDave> i'll drink to that ;P
[09:05] <wileee> ;)
[09:06] <ObrienDave> sleepy time *waves*
[09:06] <wileee> later
[12:49] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:50] <EriC^^> :)
[13:40] <TJ-> Seem to be making progress on the Super Talent mini-PCIe SSD issue; It looks as if the Core Store Plus expects to use the CLKREQ# (active low) signal to control the clock (and therefore power consumption) but the host PCs I've put it in don't use that signal.
[13:49] <lordievader> Do you know why the card expects it, or why the host doesn't use it?
[13:55] <TJ-> Well, the use of the signal has changed as the PCI interface specs have developed over time. In theory it is an optional signal... but if the Core Store is expecting it the design may not take account of it not being available, or it might expect the signal to be pulled up through a resistor. But, when not connected and therefore floating it might change things. Although, this is an Output from the PCIe card, so in theory that ought not to matter.
[13:56] <TJ-> Interestingly, Super Talent engineers specifically asked me earlier to ensure ASPM is disabled and L0 (Latency) is on. ASPM is another aspect of power-state management like CLKREQ#... is ASPM isn't used maybe the card relies on CLKREQ#
[13:56] <lordievader> Newer PCI standards are backward compatible with older standards, right? Would be strange to have some option be mandatory first and optional later.
[13:57] <TJ-> However, not having CLKREQ# connected just means the host would never stop the PCICLK signal delivered to the card, which would only mean it never drops to a lower-power state, so this theory may be totally incorrect.
[13:58] <TJ-> That's the general idea... but *implementations* don't always get it correct since they may be developed only with later standard hosts and test platforms
[18:05] <OerHeks> njummie, 4K UHD http://www.techdrivein.com/2015/08/shotcut-open-source-video-editor-linux.html
[19:41] <OerHeks> is bug 1 still valid ?
[19:41] <OerHeks> http://www.zdnet.com/article/canonical-and-microsoft-working-together-on-containers/
[19:45] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: I saw where Mark had closed out bug 1 .. If I get the time will hunt up the refernce where he closed it .
[19:45] <OerHeks> It has been closed and reopened several times, IIRC
[19:46] <wileee> I thought it was a sideways joke
[19:46] <wileee> a jab at MS
[20:43] <daftykins> i think it's both a joke and a mission statement :)
[20:44] <OerHeks> sad indeed.
[20:47] <wileee> ah we don't wanna stop Big Bill from paying back the devil by giving it all away now do we. ;)
[20:47] <daftykins> he does a lot for worldwide disease which i think is cool
[20:47] <daftykins> other partners of his from Microsoft's past just seem to go be rich folk and that's it :)
[20:48] <wileee> for sure, him and buffet are great, it's noble work
[20:49] <wileee> he* doh
[20:51] <wileee> berkshire just bought precision cast parts about 37 billion
[22:23] <tintedwindows> anybody good with proxy's? or have a nice website that'll teach me to use with online gaming?
[22:25] <lordievader> Don't think you want to use proxys in combination with gaming.
[22:59] <daftykins> 1) idiot for asking for help in here 2) idiot for wanting to game over a proxy 3) oh there'd be more
[23:04] <OerHeks> sometimes i read the logs back from 2009 .. if the word Fool didn't existthen,  it would be 'don't be an OerHeks' .. man, i wrecked some pcś and servers.
[23:04] <daftykins> :)
[23:04] <daftykins> are you saying i should be more forgiving? ;)
[23:05] <OerHeks> no, silly questions will never end.
[23:06] <OerHeks> just to say; some will learn.
[23:10] <Bashing-om> ^ and then there is me, seeking to learn .
[23:13] <OerHeks> Someday i hope to get a job, were i can deploy this knowledge i picked up here.
[23:13] <wileee> I nothing nothing and did not due it. ;)
[23:18]  * wileee leaves the large batch of day old starbucks pastry on the table in the corner
[23:29] <daftykins> mmm pastry, only a day you say?
[23:29]  * daftykins gobbles
[23:31] <Bashing-om> methinks pastry - less than a week old - makes coffee better .
[23:31] <wileee> yeah, picked it up at salvation army, lots of kellir daves bread as well
[23:32] <wileee> killer*
[23:33] <wileee> the bread is a local company, started by a former inmate kinda crazy, heh, the bread is some of the best
[23:36] <daftykins> so it appears we're still suffering from two horrible helpers/hinderers - artois and kadiro
[23:36] <daftykins> if we ignore me i mean *whistle*