[07:01] <zzarr> hello! is there a jre which can run under mir?
[07:02] <RAOF> Yes; any JRE will do.
[07:02] <RAOF> However, there's no Swing or AWT support; you'd need to use a native toolkit binding.
[07:02] <zzarr> I mean with 3D/OpenGL
[07:03] <RAOF> Yeah, GL works fine as long as your bootstrap windowing system implements Mir support.
[07:03] <RAOF> So if you've got Java bindings for SDL or GTK (which exist) or Qt (dunno), then you can GL to your heart's content.
[07:04] <RAOF> In Java.
[07:04] <zzarr> nice :)
[07:05] <zzarr> I have a phone, Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition which I would like to run java apps on (note I'm not speaking of Android apps)
[07:06] <zzarr> how do I install the bindings?
[07:07] <RAOF> Looks like you might be after http://qtjambi.org/
[07:07] <RAOF> And if you want something in the store, you bundle the dependencies in your .snap
[07:07] <RAOF> If you don't mind hacky, break-your-upgrade-path development you can enable a writable filesystem on your phone and just use apt.
[07:10] <zzarr> I'm running proposed so I think my changes would be undone when I install an upgrade
[07:12] <zzarr> qtjambi looks really interesting
[07:13] <zzarr> I'm a programmer using Qt Creator as my primary IDE
[07:13] <zzarr> it's right down my path :)
[07:16] <RAOF> Hm, actually, looks like qtjambi might only be for Qt4; only Qt5 has Mir support.
[07:22] <zzarr> okey
[07:25] <zzarr> but I should be able to load a qt4 lib in qt5 right?
[07:26] <zzarr> or are the bindings changed?
[07:26] <RAOF> They'd be changed.
[07:27] <zzarr> hmm, okey
[07:27] <zzarr> maybe I could write a wrapper for the lib
[10:17] <duflu> Oh look, something shiny
[10:22] <zzarr> something shiny? is it Mir :D
[10:40] <zzarr> I have debootstrapped a vivid in a folder /home/vivid (I'll call it guest) my idea is to make a script that installes xmir (on the host) and link it to the guest
[15:16] <kenvandine> greyback, another question about InputInfo, do you know if the apple magic trackpad should show up as a touchpad?
[15:16] <kenvandine> greyback, i need to get something to test it, but wanted to confirm before ordering it
[15:16] <greyback> kenvandine: no idea, recommend you ask the Mir team (RAOF probably knows best)
[15:16] <kenvandine> anybody ^^ RAOF ^^
[15:17] <greyback> he's not awake for about 6 hours
[15:17] <kenvandine> oh right
[15:19] <greyback> kenvandine: I do recall him complaining how the apple trackpad is a bizarre piece of hardware
[15:19] <greyback> so it might be a special case
[15:19] <kenvandine> i have an old one, which i used to test the old gesture stuff in unity
[15:19] <kenvandine> years ago :)
[15:20] <kenvandine> the batteries leaked and no longer work
[15:20] <greyback> kenvandine: you more curious if it works at all?
[15:20] <kenvandine> aluminum isn't a great material to house batteries in
[15:20] <kenvandine> i need to test the touchpad settings, and what's reported as a touchpad
[15:20] <kenvandine> there aren't many choices for bluetooth touchpads
[15:21] <kenvandine> most use a usb dongle
[15:21] <kenvandine> not going to work on the phone :)
[15:26] <greyback> kenvandine: something like "udevadm info -q all -n /dev/input/mouse1" might help report at least what udev thinks it is
[15:26] <greyback> edit mouse1 to suit
[15:27] <kenvandine> yeah, i need a device to plugin :)
[15:27] <kenvandine> not plugin
[15:27] <kenvandine> pair :)
[15:27] <greyback> that company credit card won't use itself!
[15:28] <kenvandine> :)
[15:56] <bregma> kenvandine, the Apple magic trackpad reports as a regular trackpad
[15:57] <bregma> it's the Magic mouse that was an unusual beast
[16:02] <kenvandine> bregma, great
[16:02] <kenvandine> i'll grab that one then
[22:58] <RAOF> greyback, kenvandine: The apple magic touchpad does indeed show up as a touchpad.
[22:58] <RAOF> kenvandine: It's an excellent piece of hardware to buy, because it's an excellent piece of touchpad hardware.
[22:59] <RAOF> (Like, apparently, all Apple touchpads and unlike every other touchpad ever for no obvious reason)
[23:00]  * RAOF should totally get a magic mouse.
[23:03] <bschaefer> RAOF, sooo i got all the device set up for an event5/6 for the mouse/touchpad buuuut it wasnt getting to mir
[23:03] <RAOF> Hm.
[23:03] <bschaefer> the evemu-play was working soo i slightly gave up and just pushed the branch :)
[23:03] <RAOF> Heh.
[23:03] <bschaefer> RAOF, there was another issue with adding two standard devices
[23:03] <RAOF> I'm heading out to the shops quickly, but I'll have a look when I get back.
[23:03] <bschaefer> as well (could have just created a struct for each type of device)
[23:04] <bschaefer> RAOF, yup, just waiting for jenkins to say its green
[23:04] <RAOF> I did, at one point, have a test for touchpad motion + clicks, so it's *possible* to replay those things. :)
[23:06] <bschaefer> strange, i wonder why mir/android isnt picking it up
[23:07] <bschaefer> i wonder if im just using the wrong event* (event though it says mouse0/mouse1)
[23:07] <bschaefer> for event5/event6
[23:07] <bschaefer> my event4 says its the video driver, not a keyboard (not sure how you got event4 to be a keyboard device)