[00:16] <neonixcoder> I am facing an issue with my cmos resetting to 2009-01-01 time as mention hear http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/286845-help-cmos-resetting-problem.html
[00:17] <neonixcoder> I checked my CMOS battery and its voltage shows 3.3v.
[00:17] <neonixcoder> I dont see any issue with CMOS battery.. any other suggestions?
[00:19] <sarnold> measuring the voltage of a battery without a load usually doesn't work
[00:19] <sarnold> you might as well just replace the thing outright as a first troubleshooting step, they're only a few bucks
[00:22] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I checked with load and without load.. they are much identical..
[00:23] <neonixcoder> Yes.. but before replacing I want to conform if that is a CMOS battery issue..
[00:24] <neonixcoder> I have total 200 ubuntu boxes which are running and I see this issue on 20 boxes
[00:24] <sarnold> were they all bought at the same time? :)
[00:25] <sarnold> it really could be a software issue, if something is setting the time on your running systems to six years ago, and then running hwclock --set
[00:25] <neonixcoder> At different times, different times deployments and present in different locations. but with same configuration.
[00:25] <sarnold> but I think dual-boot systems have severe trouble with hwclock --set, so I don't think it's acutally used by default any more
[00:26] <neonixcoder> sarnold: If I am not wrong, ntp will set hardware clock right?
[00:26] <patdk-lap> if you never set the clock, and hever use hwclock --set, could be an issue, but it should never reset to 01-01 again though
[00:26] <sarnold> neonixcoder: I don't think so, I think it only sets the software clock
[00:26] <patdk-lap> it would atleast still be counting up
[00:26] <patdk-lap> so the issue is with the rtc or the battery
[00:26] <patdk-lap> it could be as simple as someone has the jumper on the clear cmos, still
[00:27] <sarnold> neonixcoder: replace two or three of the twenty, see what happens; I bet those are fixed.
[00:27] <sarnold> patdk-lap: hah :)
[00:27] <patdk-lap> on my newer boards, it's just two solder pads
[00:27] <patdk-lap> might be a solder bridge on them
[00:27] <sarnold> no pins?
[00:27] <patdk-lap> no pins
[00:28] <patdk-lap> you just touch it with a screwdriver or something
[00:28] <patdk-lap> I guess that was to keep people from leaving the jumper on
[00:28] <neonixcoder> sarnold: sure will check on couple of machines before replacing all
[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:04] <patsToms> lordievader, morning
[08:06] <lordievader> Hey patsToms
[11:05] <rbasak> hallyn: could you take a look at bug 1483836 please? It's in main (ubuntu-server subscription) because it's a build-dep for qemu AFAICT.
[11:05] <rbasak> hallyn: I can help you with the powerpc porter if you need it.
[13:38] <hallyn> rbasak: after libvirt is straightened out
[14:05] <rbasak> hallyn: np, thanks
[14:09] <hallyn> zul: smb: if you have a minute, could you look over http://paste.ubuntu.com/12061910/  ?  Final patch which I intend to push to libvirt this morning
[14:09] <zul> hallyn,  sure
[14:11] <zul> hallyn: looks ok
[14:12] <hallyn> ok thx
[14:18] <smb> hallyn, Hm yeah nothing that immediately jumps out. Though large enough to be hard to say completely for sure
[15:13] <badabum18> Hi, is there anybody to tell me with anacron 2.3 variable RANDOM_DELAY ? My job appears as "Will run job `test' in 1 min." in syslog but 1 mins is the period and RANDOM_DELAY=120 is ignored... :-/
[15:24] <Overand> Should I stick my SSL settigns (ala disabling SSLv3) in my /etc/apache2/mods-__/mod_ssl.conf - or in my virtualhost?
[15:24] <Overand> seems like it should go in the module settings, but is that going to get axed by package management?
[15:49] <jelly> Overand: put it in the ssl virtualhost
[16:43] <Dr_Apocalypse> Greetings all. I'm wondering if anyone has some suggections for setting up a reverse proxy
[17:36] <pmatulis> Dr_Apocalypse: study nginx
[18:17] <Qantourisc> Since I installed ubuntu i used bootstrap on a dir. So i'm not sure everything was installed correctly.
[18:18] <Qantourisc> What is the default syslog used by ubuntu ?
[18:19] <Qantourisc> ok enoughg google results seem to point to rsyslogd
[18:24] <tarpman> Qantourisc: install the package "ubuntu-minimal" to get the basic system packages such as syslog and cron
[18:24] <Qantourisc> tarpman: well, currently that would take ... I don't know ... 3 hours, so first installing some debug tools :p
[18:24] <Qantourisc> but thanks
[18:25] <Qantourisc> lxc is acting up weird somehow
[18:25] <Qantourisc> aptitude/apt-get is verry slow, diks usage, it claims
[18:26] <RoyK> Qantourisc: are you low on diskspace?
[18:27] <Qantourisc> no but I did just add storage
[18:27] <RoyK> things are usually rather slow if filesystems are almost full - leads to very fragmented filsystems (on all OSes)
[18:27] <Qantourisc> also tty1 refuses root login
[18:27] <Qantourisc> RoyK: not talking slow, talking floppy disk slow
[18:27] <RoyK> how did you add storage?
[18:28] <Qantourisc> lvresize; resize2fs
[18:28] <RoyK> should work
[18:28] <Qantourisc> it did :)
[18:29] <RoyK> and should help writes do better, though reads may still be in trouble if the filesystem is highly fragmented
[18:29] <Qantourisc> the FS is quite fresh, and never got near full
[18:29] <RoyK> is this a vm or physical?
[18:29] <Qantourisc> vm in lxc
[18:30] <Qantourisc> take ~1 minute to "build dependency tree"
[18:30] <RoyK> anything from dmesg about bad drives?
[18:30] <Qantourisc> shouldn't be
[18:30] <RoyK> well, check
[18:31] <Qantourisc> just did: no
[18:31] <Qantourisc> however it is loading 1 disk of the mirror raid more then the other
[18:31] <Qantourisc> 75% load on 1 16% on the other
[18:31] <Qantourisc> that is weird
[18:31] <RoyK> pastebin /proc/mdstat
[18:32] <Qantourisc> http://codepad.org/DjNkXNuV
[18:32] <Qantourisc> nothing in it btw :p
[18:33] <RoyK> 64MB chunks???
[18:33] <Qantourisc> it's reading @130MB's how can that even be
[18:33] <RoyK>       bitmap: 2/2 pages [8KB], 65536KB chunk
[18:33]  * Qantourisc rechecks the chunk size, that does sound large :D
[18:34] <RoyK> seems to be the bitmap chunk
[18:35] <Qantourisc> RoyK: try looking at md127
[18:35] <Qantourisc> i mean 124
[18:35] <Qantourisc>  7566523392 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/3] [UUU]
[18:35] <Qantourisc> the chunksize there is 512k
[18:35] <Qantourisc> the rest must indeed be related to bitmap
[18:35] <RoyK> yeah, but the bitmap chunk size is 64MB
[18:36] <RoyK> doesn't seem to be the problem, though, although you might want to ask on #linux-raid
[18:36] <Qantourisc> I did a apt-get install rsyslog about 6 mins ago, it's at "Reading state information... Done" atm, to give you an idea how slow btw :)
[18:36] <RoyK> better place to ask about raid stuff than in here
[18:37] <Qantourisc> sec idea
[18:38] <Qantourisc> where are the "data" files of apt located ?
[18:38] <RoyK> iirc /var/cache/apt/
[18:38] <Qantourisc> ok looks right
[18:39] <Qantourisc> just catted all that data to /dev/zero, verry fast :p
[18:39]  * Qantourisc smells exesive IO due to something else failing
[18:39] <dasjoe> apt is calling a lot of fsync, so you might want to get libeatmydata and preload that ;)
[18:40] <Qantourisc> dasjoe: hmm good idea to debug
[18:40]  * Qantourisc tries
[18:40] <RoyK> using a mirror of an ssd and spinning rust for the root with write-mostly for the spinning rust works well
[18:40] <Qantourisc> i'll have the results in ~10 mins
[18:40] <Qantourisc> takes a while to install :/
[18:41] <Qantourisc> RoyK: ... it's on ssd ... (entirely)
[18:41] <RoyK> and it's that slow?!?
[18:41] <Qantourisc> yes
[18:41] <Qantourisc> hence my supprise :)
[18:41] <RoyK> better run a smartctl -H /dev/whatever
[18:41] <RoyK> guess it may be bad
[18:42] <dasjoe> "LD_PRELOAD=libeatmydata.so aptitude"
[18:42] <Qantourisc> dasjoe: it's not installed yet
[18:42] <Qantourisc> hmmm maybe i can install it from the host lxc server
[18:42] <dasjoe> Once libeatmydata is installed. Also, I've got a tiny script for checking interesting SMART stats: https://gist.github.com/dasjoe/a7252e3f737ec36de36f
[18:43] <Qantourisc> yea host system is chroozing by
[18:44] <Qantourisc> copied eatmydata, no real improvement
[18:45] <RoyK> Qantourisc: if you have i/o issues like that on an ssd, make sure you have a good backup
[18:45] <Qantourisc> tty1 is also borked: when i type root, it rejects the user
[18:45] <RoyK> Qantourisc: looks to me that ssd is borked
[18:45] <dasjoe> Qantourisc: so, the host is fast but the container is slow?
[18:45] <Qantourisc> dasjoe: es
[18:46] <dasjoe> Qantourisc: if that's the case your SSD is fine but your LXC is weird. I have no experience with containers, so I'm not very helpful, sorry
[18:46] <RoyK> Qantourisc: pastebin 'smartctl -x /dev/sdX' for that ssd
[18:46] <Qantourisc> think i must have some missing resource/functionality on the container
[18:46] <Qantourisc> RoyK: it's 2 :p
[18:46] <RoyK> Qantourisc: those SSDs may sometimes not report things right
[18:46] <RoyK> Qantourisc: a mirror?
[18:46] <Qantourisc> yep
[18:46] <dasjoe> RoyK: it's not related to hardware, imho. Their host is running fine, but IO from within the container is slow
[18:46] <RoyK> well, that's good
[18:46] <Qantourisc> RoyK: not really
[18:47] <Qantourisc> it's the same brand, and order
[18:47] <Qantourisc> that's bad
[18:47] <dasjoe> Qantourisc: hop over to #zfsonlinux and let's get you up and running with a real file system ;)
[18:47] <RoyK> Qantourisc: without write-mostly, all i/o, also reads, will be spread to all drives
[18:48] <RoyK> dasjoe: linux filesystems also work - this thing seems to be hardware
[18:48] <RoyK> dasjoe: also, I've been using zfs for 6+ years ;)
[18:48] <Qantourisc> dasjoe: tried zfs once,has some concept issues with ot
[18:48] <Qantourisc> RoyK: still want those smarts ? I uploaded them
[18:48] <Qantourisc> http://codepad.org/dIK1h9da http://codepad.org/KHctwXIV
[18:48] <RoyK> please
[18:49] <Qantourisc> doubt you will find anything :p
[18:49] <Qantourisc> they are warmer then expected though :p
[18:49] <Qantourisc> then again the chasis is not closed :p
[18:50] <Qantourisc> it's running at 2800 reads / second
[18:50] <RoyK> Qantourisc: doesn't look like anything bad - but does iostat say anything about which ssd is spending more time?
[18:50] <Qantourisc> readking 150 000 kB/s
[18:51] <Qantourisc> /dev/sdd
[18:51] <Qantourisc> but it's also getting the bulk of the read-requests
[18:51] <RoyK> try to detach it or offline it
[18:51] <Qantourisc> wich is verry weird
[18:51] <RoyK> mdadm --fail iirc
[18:52] <Qantourisc> Such a hassle to get it back online, how certain are you to persue the pure-hardware-io path atm ?
[18:53] <dasjoe> Qantourisc: check the disks's readahead, I've seen IO thrashing due to linux assuming sequential reads when I had random I/O with large enough block sizes
[18:53] <RoyK> just wonder how 150MB/s can't be sufficient
[18:53] <Qantourisc> RoyK: I think it's stuck on something due to something msissing / me takes a look at strace again
[18:54] <Qantourisc> are mmap -read mentioned in strace
[18:54] <Qantourisc> i'm not entirely sure
[18:54] <dasjoe> blockdev --getra /dev/sdX
[18:54] <Qantourisc> dasjoe: you'd want to check /dev/sdX and the lvm btw
[18:54] <Qantourisc> and getfra too iirc
[18:55] <RoyK> Qantourisc: perhaps someone is there doing something they shouldn't? box rooted?
[18:55] <Qantourisc> god lets hope not
[18:55] <dasjoe> RoyK: I still think it's in the container layer, the host is fast on the same HW, if I understand correctly
[18:56] <RoyK> Qantourisc: can you clarify that?
[18:56] <Qantourisc> RoyK: well for starters, there is no direrct exposure to the internet
[18:57] <RoyK> Qantourisc: is the host responsive?
[18:57] <Qantourisc> they'd have to have access to another system in the network
[18:57] <Qantourisc> RoyK: yes
[18:57] <Qantourisc> IO == 0 when aptitude is not running
[18:57] <nettlejam> Does anyone know why the Ubuntu EC2 AMI locator (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/) lists 15.04 as 'DEVEL'?
[18:59] <RoyK> Qantourisc: I don't use lxc so really, I don't know, but have you tried restarting the guest?
[18:59] <Qantourisc> RoyK: relucantly yes, even unmounted and did a fschk
[19:00] <linocisco> how to use aptonCD on ubuntu server?
[19:00] <Qantourisc> Can I disable mmap in apt-get ?
[19:00] <RoyK> you shouldn't
[19:01] <RoyK> if i/o is the problem, iotop might show something
[19:01] <Qantourisc> RoyK: well there are no reads when using strace, since it's mmap-ing, so that would allow me to see some reads
[19:02] <linocisco> how to use aptonCD on ubuntu server?
[19:06] <Qantourisc> yea defently lxc => chroot is fast
[19:09] <linocisco> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD is for Desktop, what about for Server version?
[19:10] <patdk-wk> how did you define *desktop*
[19:10] <patdk-wk> where does it say, for desktop only?
[19:10] <sarnold> patdk-wk: he left.. he lacks patience.
[19:10] <patdk-wk> oh, It was so quick, I didn't notice
[19:10] <patdk-wk> damn it, now my inner troll is going build up
[19:11] <sarnold> hehe I know the feeling... I was all excited to type out "what error messages did you get when you tried?" oh well
[19:37] <host127> Anyone may explain to maiself if this: > http://store.bq.com/gl/smartphones have sudo ?
[19:39] <sarnold> host127: yes, it does
[19:39] <sarnold> host127: you may have better luck in #ubuntu-touch
[19:40] <host127> sarnold: don lie to me. please. because if is true i will buy ok?
[19:41] <sarnold> host127: I just tried it on my nexus4 running ubuntu touch; when you start the terminal, it even prints 'To run a command as adm8nistrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command", See "man sudo_root" for details.'
[20:29] <dasjoe> sarnold: how's the battery life?
[20:31] <sarnold> dasjoe: I don't have a SIM card in that phone, so it's not really a fair comparison, it never does actual phone things
[20:31] <sarnold> dasjoe: it runs several days between charges
[20:33] <dasjoe> sarnold: oh, just like my OPO. I use it for reading tposana in Play Books ;)
[20:34] <sarnold> dasjoe: my ubuntu phone has mostly turned into a machines vs machines game :)
[20:34] <sarnold> it's yet another tower dfense game, but you've got to get tower placement, types, and upgrades done just right or you fail miserably
[20:37] <dasjoe> Sounds interesting. I really fell for the Kingdom Rush series
[21:04] <Qantourisc> RoyK: cause is some cgroups going haywire
[21:05] <Qantourisc> RoyK: not sure why or wich one yet
[21:09] <Qantourisc> RoyK: memory limit
[21:11] <Qantourisc> RoyK: limit was 12MB
[21:13] <Qantourisc> So to fullfill the mmap it has to swap in rather small segments of file
[21:13] <Qantourisc> dasjoe: Ping read above if you care about what the issue was
[21:17] <sarnold> _twelve megabyte_ cgroup memory limit? man, how'd you do that? :)
[21:18] <sarnold> and how on earth did anything run?
[22:51] <a1fa> hello, i am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on HP Proliant G8 with HP p420i RAID and SAS controller.. i removed my disks from raid configuration because i want to do btrfs, but the drives dont show up during install, and i am prompted for driver install because no disks have been found
[22:52] <sarnold> a1fa: does your controller have an HBA mode or allow you to flash IT firmware?
[22:53] <a1fa> i did not see that option
[22:53] <a1fa> i'll check again
[22:54] <a1fa> well looks like its going to be a command line thing using their cli tool