| gamerchick02 | wait. the presentation is on a Windows 8 computer? | 00:04 |
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| gamerchick02 | (yes i just noticed) | 00:05 |
| cmaloney | Heh | 00:25 |
| cmaloney | We allow all walks of computing life | 00:26 |
| gamerchick02 | :) very nice. even my menagerie of windows, mac, ubuntu, ios, and android? (I have a device ZOO i tell you.) | 00:31 |
| cscheib | mramm seems to be having connectivity issues, heh | 01:10 |
| aisrael | cscheib: I use juju on osx full-time. I haven't tried the public beta yet, but I have a spare machine I can try it on. What problems are you running into? | 02:39 |
| cscheib | aisrael: well, it's not in the hardcoded support list, not sure if there'd be anything else that would prevent it from being used. jrwren opened a bug, so it may be taken care of soon. not a huge deal, since I have a second laptop, but thought I'd bring it up | 02:46 |
| aisrael | cscheib: Gotcha. I assume you're not trying to use the local provider, right? | 03:51 |
| cscheib | yea, I know better than that | 03:54 |
| cscheib | the juju command just plain fails on 10.11 (el capitan) regardless | 03:55 |
| aisrael | *nod* that should be an easy enough fix | 03:55 |
| cscheib | I've got htings up and running on my digitalocean vps for the CLI | 03:55 |
| cscheib | to AWS | 03:55 |
| aisrael | Found where to patch it. We'll see what my weekend looks like, though. | 03:57 |
| cscheib | is there a tool you're supposed to use to troubleshoot failed builds? I tried a mediawiki bundle... mysql worked, mediawiki did not | 03:57 |
| cscheib | <-- first time really playing around too much with it | 03:57 |
| cscheib | or do you just log into the sys to resolve issues | 03:58 |
| aisrael | every unit should have an individual log in /var/log/juju-*/ | 03:58 |
| aisrael | depending on the error, it may be a matter of sshing in, or running juju resolved unitname/0 -r | 03:58 |
| cscheib | cool | 03:58 |
| cscheib | thanks! | 03:58 |
| cscheib | interesting. the rails one failed too | 04:03 |
| aisrael | jwren: cscheib: patch for el capitan submitted | 04:10 |
| cscheib | ++ | 04:11 |
| cmaloney | Morning | 12:07 |
| brousch | Yes | 12:08 |
| cmaloney | Yay! | 12:09 |
| DrDaemonEye | morning | 15:14 |
| jrwren | good morning | 15:18 |
| DrDaemonEye | how goes jrwren? | 15:18 |
| jrwren | well enough, how goes with you? | 15:18 |
| DrDaemonEye | It goes. Quiet day in IRC World. | 15:18 |
| greg-g | west coast is still waking up :) | 15:19 |
| DrDaemonEye | that they are. And the east coast is looking at the lunch rush soon | 15:20 |
| cscheib | what rush... people dont' all work from home? :P | 15:32 |
| jrwren | at home with wife and daughter. lunch rush consists of a line at the fridge. | 15:39 |
| jrwren | tomorrow is my birthday. | 15:47 |
| cmaloney | Morning / Afternoon | 16:29 |
| cmaloney | Happy tomorrow-is-your-birthday jrwren | 16:29 |
| cscheib | jrwren: congrats on your continued survival | 16:37 |
| jrwren | thanks | 16:38 |
| cscheib | I may be out in A2 for lunch tomorrow | 16:38 |
| jrwren | cscheib: I'll be heading to west mi for vaca | 16:40 |
| cscheib | gotcha | 16:40 |
| brousch | jrwren: We're happy to have you visit! | 17:47 |
| jrwren | brousch: I'll be down in 3 oaks. | 18:11 |
| brousch | That's SW michigan, not West Michigan | 18:26 |
| jrwren | brousch: thanks. I'll tell people that now. | 18:38 |
| jcastro | cscheib: how's the juju/osx experience so far? | 20:04 |
| jcastro | we punch you in the teeth enough times? | 20:04 |
| cscheib | jcastro: I gave up on the OSX part of it | 20:06 |
| brousch | gOOD MAN | 20:06 |
| jcastro | cscheib: I want you to tell Ramm that exact thing. | 20:06 |
| cscheib | oh? | 20:06 |
| jcastro | well yeah, if someone like you can give up, normal people would have given up long before | 20:07 |
| cscheib | juju was looking for brew, but I think it was looking in the wrong location, because I installed homebrew via boxen | 20:07 |
| cscheib | so I just installed the juju command on my DO droplet | 20:07 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: http://gizmodo.com/moto-x-style-hands-on-a-great-smartphone-with-a-price-1720576796/1723666356 | 20:07 |
| cscheib | my non-certified ubuntu cloud image droplet :P | 20:08 |
| jcastro | cscheib: yeah, we have a vagrant box too | 20:08 |
| cscheib | yea, pondered that | 20:08 |
| cscheib | I may try it on my windows workstation., | 20:08 |
| cscheib | I got juju itself up and running, but the 2 bundles I've tried so far haven't come up properly | 20:09 |
| jcastro | which ones? | 20:09 |
| cscheib | I tried the single rails one, and the mediawiki one | 20:09 |
| jcastro | ah | 20:09 |
| jcastro | "nice" | 20:09 |
| jcastro | aisrael: see ^^ it's shit like this | 20:09 |
| jcastro | cscheib: I'm going to use your experience as an excuse to fix shit | 20:10 |
| cscheib | the mediawiki one was in the juju-quickstart example on the site | 20:10 |
| cmaloney | cscheib: You're in for it now | 20:10 |
| cmaloney | jcastro is on the case | 20:10 |
| cmaloney | HEADS WILL ROLL | 20:10 |
| cscheib | the rails one was super simple looking, so I figured that'd be fine, too | 20:10 |
| aisrael | jcastro: yep, tell me about it. A thousand papercuts. | 20:10 |
| jcastro | the rails one is a fragile chef thing | 20:11 |
| jcastro | which is unfortunate | 20:11 |
| jcastro | the mediawiki one there's no excuse | 20:11 |
| jcastro | that's just some php | 20:11 |
| cmaloney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts | 20:11 |
| jcastro | cmaloney: that's only three digits though | 20:11 |
| cmaloney | If that trend line continues it'll be four digits. ;) | 20:12 |
| cscheib | I should probably mess with some charms/bundles that actually work | 20:12 |
| cscheib | any good (small) examples? | 20:12 |
| cscheib | I'm doing this on the "free" AWS tier, so it can't be too nutty | 20:13 |
| aisrael | cscheib: wordpress probably works | 20:13 |
| jcastro | juju-gui | 20:13 |
| aisrael | That's a vanilla example, but one that's fairly-well tested | 20:13 |
| cscheib | the juju gui comes up fine | 20:13 |
| jcastro | and if that breaks at a minimum that's jrwren's fault | 20:13 |
| jcastro | free tier is tough, because t1.micros are kind of shit | 20:13 |
| cscheib | juju-quickstart deploys via juju-gui regardless of which bundle you install | 20:13 |
| aisrael | jcastro: I've fixed the mediawiki charm more than once. I'd like to hunt down whoever keeps breaking it | 20:13 |
| cscheib | er vice versa | 20:14 |
| jcastro | aisrael: hasn't been touched since november last year afaict | 20:14 |
| cscheib | unfortunately, I'm also reading a bunch of Ruby books (I know I know), so I'm not sure I have the mindpower to devote fully to learning all about charms (and consequently troubleshoot) at this moment | 20:15 |
| cscheib | although, it would probably be to my benefit to learn how to build one | 20:15 |
| jcastro | if it wasn't all crackrock ruby it's not that tough | 20:15 |
| jcastro | they just run as root on the instance right at boot | 20:15 |
| jcastro | so, they can be shell, python, etc. | 20:15 |
| aisrael | jcastro: Might fall back to the automated testing, which seems to be a hot mess right now. We seriously need to do a spike to address this: http://reports.vapour.ws/latest-bundle-and-charm-results | 20:15 |
| jcastro | I wish we had a decent puppet example one | 20:16 |
| cscheib | I'd probably do em in Puppet, bash, or Ruby, as those're what I know best | 20:16 |
| aisrael | I mean, mysql and postgresql are both failing right now, ffs | 20:16 |
| jcastro | that can't be right | 20:16 |
| jcastro | http://reports.vapour.ws/all-bundle-and-charm-results/cs%3Atrusty%252Fpostgresql | 20:16 |
| jcastro | there's no way that's correct | 20:16 |
| cscheib | you guys allow deploys to be released that fail? | 20:17 |
| jcastro | I suspect the bundle tester is busted and we didn't notice | 20:17 |
| cscheib | or is that in dev | 20:17 |
| jcastro | this is dev | 20:17 |
| jcastro | but like, for certain things it's more tested than others | 20:17 |
| aisrael | jcastro: bunch of lint errors | 20:17 |
| jcastro | yeah, I mean, that should be fixed but red across the board seems suspect. | 20:17 |
| aisrael | Like, we only test when a new version is out, but that doesn't catch underlying library changes | 20:17 |
| cscheib | after Ruby, test frameworks are my next thing to attack | 20:17 |
| aisrael | jcastro: If you need a +1 about this focusing on this stuff, you have mine | 20:18 |
| jcastro | aisrael: I'm kind of just going to call ramm right now | 20:18 |
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