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| === hikiko__ is now known as hikiko | ||
| hikiko | hi | 05:02 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 05:29 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks ! | 05:53 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, ça va ? | 05:54 |
| pitti | ça va bien, et toi ? | 05:54 |
| didrocks | maintenant que je peux reconstruire mes paquets, oui :) | 05:54 |
| pitti | :) | 05:56 |
| desrt | good morning, desktop! | 06:05 |
| pitti | hey desrt, how are you? | 06:05 |
| desrt | pretty good | 06:05 |
| didrocks | hey desrt, quite early for you, even in EST time! :) | 06:06 |
| desrt | have a nice bug i'm working on now and it's one of those ones where the solution is simple but tricky to get right | 06:06 |
| desrt | so i'm happy :) | 06:06 |
| desrt | didrocks: i'm in CEST | 06:06 |
| desrt | hikiko: good morning | 06:14 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: still crashing… | 06:17 |
| * didrocks almost lost 20 minutes of writing on my blog | 06:17 | |
| didrocks | (for the Ubuntu Make release) | 06:17 |
| didrocks | fortunatly chrome is awesome | 06:17 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: file a new bug on xserver-xorg-video-intel, saying you have the latest | 06:18 |
| tjaalton | ickle (upstream) will have a look | 06:18 |
| tjaalton | and then you can switch to uxa (man intel) | 06:19 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: doing (just after blogging) | 06:20 |
| tjaalton | thx | 06:21 |
| tjaalton | you can assign it to me | 06:21 |
| didrocks | will do, thanks! | 06:21 |
| tjaalton | what does lspci -nn -s 0:2.0 say? | 06:22 |
| didrocks | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09) | 06:22 |
| tjaalton | so sandybridge | 06:24 |
| tjaalton | hm, my t420s has one and wife is using it every day | 06:24 |
| tjaalton | on trusty but since the crashes happen there too.. | 06:25 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: I never got the crashes before upgrading to wily here | 06:25 |
| didrocks | so maybe it was less frequent? | 06:25 |
| didrocks | vivid was fine as well | 06:26 |
| didrocks | it really started right after upgrading to wily | 06:26 |
| tjaalton | that's weird then since the driver didn't change, other than a few patches from debian. base version is the same | 06:26 |
| didrocks | weird, indeed… | 06:30 |
| tjaalton | maybe other bits make it easier to trigger then | 06:30 |
| didrocks | can be | 06:31 |
| desrt | aside: does anyone know when i arrive in heidelberg? :) | 06:40 |
| didrocks | you just wrote "train", so no :p | 06:40 |
| desrt | i seem to have temporarily misplaced my yubikey so i can't check the spreadsheet | 06:40 |
| desrt | i mean which day :) | 06:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: how to bypass already in apport the check for ubuntu genuine package as I want to report from the ppa? /me doesn't remember | 06:40 |
| didrocks | desrt: tomorrow | 06:40 |
| desrt | what?! | 06:41 |
| didrocks | as Laney and I IIRC | 06:41 |
| didrocks | let me recheck | 06:41 |
| desrt | zomg | 06:41 |
| didrocks | 14/08/2015 | 06:41 |
| didrocks | yep | 06:41 |
| pitti | didrocks: APPORT_DISABLE_DISTRO_CHECK=1 | 06:41 |
| desrt | insanity | 06:41 |
| desrt | thanks | 06:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: many thanks! | 06:41 |
| didrocks | desrt: I hope you know the time though :p | 06:41 |
| desrt | i should buy some train tickets or something | 06:41 |
| didrocks | ahah | 06:42 |
| didrocks | that was my guess ;) | 06:42 |
| didrocks | desrt: I arrive at half past 3, Laney at 4something IIRC | 06:43 |
| desrt | this makes me sad | 06:43 |
| didrocks | to see us tomorrow? I see :p | 06:43 |
| desrt | to leave the place where i am now | 06:43 |
| didrocks | are you going back after debconf? | 06:43 |
| desrt | back home | 06:44 |
| RAOF | pitti: Would you be able to upload colord at your leisure? | 06:49 |
| pitti | RAOF: sure! | 06:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: hm, the last three releases in git are UNRELEASED | 06:50 |
| RAOF | Yeah, please mark the last one as to unstable. | 06:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: can you merge the changelogs? | 06:50 |
| RAOF | I'm leaving that step to you, because last time I marked an upload as going to experimental it... didn't :) | 06:51 |
| pitti | ah, ok :) | 06:51 |
| RAOF | pitti: 1.2.11-1 has already been rejected from NEW, but I can certainly merge the changelogs if you want. | 06:51 |
| pitti | RAOF: ah, was 1.2.10-1 uploaded at all? | 06:52 |
| RAOF | No; it sat in my tree marked as “experimental”, and I thought I'd got it uploaded. | 06:52 |
| pitti | ok, so dch -r/debcommit -r/dput should be done by one person in one go; I'll do that after the changelog merge then | 06:53 |
| RAOF | Merged changelog entries. | 06:55 |
| pitti | RAOF: removing existing debian/1.2.11-1 tag FYI | 06:56 |
| RAOF | pitti: Yeah, good call. | 06:56 |
| pitti | W: colord source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.5 (current is 3.9.6) | 06:57 |
| pitti | RAOF: uploaded | 07:10 |
| RAOF | pitti: Ta. | 07:10 |
| RAOF | I'll fix those nits in git, so the next upload is lintian clean. | 07:11 |
| RAOF | Modulo manpages for internal binaries, because sod that. | 07:11 |
| pitti | RAOF: moving them to /usr/lib isn't an option? | 07:12 |
| RAOF | It probably is. | 07:12 |
| === qengho is now known as CardinalFang | ||
| === CardinalFang is now known as qengho | ||
| willcooke | o/ | 08:03 |
| Laney | yo | 08:04 |
| willcooke | what up Laney | 08:05 |
| didrocks | morning willcooke, Laney | 08:05 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:06 |
| Laney | hey willcooke didrocks pitti | 08:08 |
| Laney | doing good! | 08:08 |
| Laney | tried to watch out for some meteors last night | 08:08 |
| Laney | saw a few! | 08:09 |
| pitti | ah, the Perseides? | 08:09 |
| Laney | yeah - it was supposed to be the peak | 08:11 |
| Laney | Would have been better if I wasn't in the city though | 08:11 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney pitti | 08:11 |
| seb128 | re didrocks | 08:11 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 08:11 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:12 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 08:12 |
| * didrocks goes for a run | 08:26 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, enjoy! | 08:26 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks, especially knowing that the next one will be at debconf with Laney :) | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:27 |
| seb128 | you can jog next to his bike I guess :-) | 08:27 |
| Laney | oh I didn't know the word for running and cycling were the same in france :) | 08:27 |
| didrocks | seb128: that may be a way ;) | 08:27 |
| * didrocks really gone | 08:28 | |
| Laney | get some skates and I can tow you | 08:28 |
| didrocks | that's not the goal of "exercising", you know ;) | 08:28 |
| Laney | it'll make *me* work harder | 08:29 |
| willcooke | The -desktop mailing list is now purged | 08:43 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 08:43 |
| seb128 | willcooke is in charge now, no need to worry anymore good desktop people, your emails are going to be moderated ;-) | 08:49 |
| willcooke | s/moderated/discarded more regularly | 08:52 |
| seb128 | sounds about right! | 08:52 |
| === hikiko is now known as hikiko|bbl | ||
| willcooke | So it looks like LP sends messages to the mailing list for each commit etc. Do we want those to be published? They're held at the moment. I don't think we want all of them on the list really. | 09:35 |
| willcooke | Any thoughts one way or the other? | 09:35 |
| willcooke | oh, except this messages is sent to look like it came from seb128 rather than LP | 09:36 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, launchpad sends comment like they were coming from the user | 09:36 |
| seb128 | and no we don't want them on the list | 09:36 |
| seb128 | usually that happens because somebody subscribed the wrong team to a bug | 09:37 |
| seb128 | e.g ubuntu-desktop | 09:37 |
| willcooke | ahh | 09:44 |
| willcooke | right, yeah | 09:44 |
| willcooke | I guess I'll ignore them and flush the queue once in a while | 09:45 |
| seb128 | +1 | 09:45 |
| seb128 | sometime those do reach the list because some of us are subscribed to the list so it goes through | 09:45 |
| seb128 | I usually go to the bug and unsubscribe the team when that happens | 09:46 |
| willcooke | oki, I can do that | 09:46 |
| ochosi | hey seb128 | 10:40 |
| ochosi | wanted to ping you quickly about that libreoffice packaging change we (xubuntu) wanted to propose | 10:40 |
| darkxst | hey desktopers | 10:41 |
| ochosi | seb128: so to be concrete, the packaging issue in libreoffice i wanted to ask you about is summarized here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1483914 | 10:41 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1483914 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice-style-elementary as alternate to libreoffice-style-human" [Undecided,New] | 10:41 |
| darkxst | Laney, can you take another look at the peripheral settings branches for u-s-d/u-c-c, given up on g-o-a patched g-c-c to not dep on g-o-a 3.16 | 10:44 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst ochosi | 10:47 |
| darkxst | hey seb128 | 10:47 |
| Laney | darkxst: in theory but probably not in the next two days | 10:47 |
| seb128 | darkxst, the goa demote only some binaries approach is not security team approved then? | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ochosi, yeah, alternative recommends seems fine to me | 10:48 |
| ochosi | seb128: great! anything else we can do to move this ahead? | 10:48 |
| Laney | someone else would be more satisfactory probably | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ochosi, submit a debdiff for sponsoring? ;-) | 10:48 |
| Laney | given next week is debconf :( | 10:49 |
| ochosi | seb128: heh, ok i will try to get that for you (shouldn't that be a one-liner though?) | 10:49 |
| seb128 | ochosi, it should yes ;-) | 10:49 |
| Laney | bahaha | 10:49 |
| Laney | have you seen libreoffice's rules file? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, darkxst, maybe robert_ancell can do revieew | 10:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, trying to avoid it! | 10:50 |
| ochosi | Laney: nope | 10:50 |
| ochosi | is it *that* good? :) | 10:50 |
| Laney | have a drink on standby | 10:50 |
| Laney | seb128: think he declined to do it before? | 10:50 |
| seb128 | yeah, I think he said he didn't have enough clue about the topic | 10:51 |
| seb128 | so good luck to find a reviewer this week I guess... | 10:51 |
| Laney | join the club | 10:51 |
| ochosi | hummright | 10:51 |
| ochosi | so you're saying we should start prepping the FFe already? ;) | 10:52 |
| seb128 | the alternative recommends should require a ffe | 10:53 |
| Laney | not you | 10:54 |
| Laney | talking about darkxst's change | 10:54 |
| seb128 | yeah, I was replying to ochosi | 10:56 |
| Laney | still got a week | 10:58 |
| Laney | (!!! only a week) | 10:58 |
| ochosi | oh ok | 11:01 |
| mitya57 | ted, hi, any chance you can top-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/libappindicator/watch-status-notifier-watcher-dbus-name/+merge/263694 ? | 11:09 |
| mitya57 | this is a rebase of a branch you approved without the part you disapproved :) | 11:10 |
| * pitti rentre de courier -- trop chaud aujourd'hui ! | 11:15 | |
| Laney | desrt: I probably arrive at 18:45 | 11:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: il fait meilleur ici au contraire, c'était facile de courir :) | 11:17 |
| didrocks | Laney: I think I'll be in the hotel lobby then | 11:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: c'était dur pour moi, j'ai perdu à aller dans le matin :/ | 11:19 |
| Laney | didrocks: cool! | 11:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: oui, je me fais piéger aussi parfois | 11:19 |
| darkxst | seb128, apparently no one thought that out, need webkit binaries in main to build the other stuff! and that is too confusing! | 11:20 |
| Laney | darkxst: suggest asking robert_ancell again nicely :P | 11:21 |
| darkxst | Laney, he was not at all keen last time I asked | 11:23 |
| Laney | :/ | 11:24 |
| Laney | I don't think any of us are likely to know about it, so we'll all have to spend some time getting up to speed | 11:26 |
| Laney | bleh | 11:26 |
| Laney | oh well | 11:26 |
| darkxst | Laney, I could setup a ppa, for testing, but not about to self sponsor without a second set of eyes looking over it | 11:38 |
| darkxst | but apparently only my eyes understand the patches ;( | 11:38 |
| Laney | I don't mind doing it, just struggling for time this week | 11:41 |
| Laney | Just wish someone else would be willing too | 11:41 |
| seb128 | I would be happy to do it, but I want to land the bluez5 transition first and I'm doing sponsoring shift which is really needed and still have some other small things in backlog and debconf coming as well | 11:46 |
| seb128 | darkxst, yeah, I didn't fully understand how that "demote binaries only" was supposed to work, but I had too many other things to try to understand it really or argue | 11:48 |
| darkxst | seb128, landing bluez5 first is fine, just so long as it gets through beore freeze (Athough I guess it will be a FFe) | 11:51 |
| darkxst | in theory it works, but only if webkit2 binaries are in main, its not like I have had huge amounts of free cycles to think about this either | 11:53 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| seb128 | happyaron, can you reply on https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/wily/libx11/pt_PT-compose/+merge/258526 ? | 12:26 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: FYI, 2 more crashes in 15 minutes | 12:30 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: switched to uxa yet? | 12:31 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: no, doing that now | 12:31 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: do you think I was using uxa in pre-wily? | 12:31 |
| tjaalton | no | 12:31 |
| tjaalton | it's something else triggering it | 12:31 |
| didrocks | creating a Xorg.conf, so last decade! :) | 12:34 |
| tjaalton | yep.. | 12:34 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: after another crash, running UXA now… | 12:52 |
| tjaalton | cool | 12:56 |
| === hikiko|bbl is now known as hikiko | ||
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| seb128 | does anyone see a reason to not upload bluez5 now? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | we got some testers that said it works fine and nobody came with an "hold on" on the list | 15:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, Laney, didrocks1, ^ no objection? | 15:15 |
| Laney | I didn't try it yet, but go for it if you're happy | 15:15 |
| Laney | there is time to fix stuff | 15:15 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ^ | 15:15 |
| seb128 | right | 15:15 |
| seb128 | I tested it several times and didrocks1 did as well | 15:15 |
| cyphermox | ah, no objections, by all means it's way overdue :) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | ok, let's do that then | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | things should Just Work (tm) | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | though | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | are we likely to inconvenience the gcc5 transition in any way while fixing the inevitable small things that will break? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, didrocks1, the transitions ppa is non virtual, is that good enough to archive copy include binaries? | 15:17 |
| Laney | does it build with proposed? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | unsure, how do I tell? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions/+edit doesn't have such details | 15:18 |
| Laney | in the options page for the PPA | 15:18 |
| seb128 | ah | 15:18 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions/+edit-dependencies | 15:18 |
| seb128 | no | 15:18 |
| Laney | and it doesn't follow archive comopnents | 15:18 |
| Laney | so probably good to rebuild | 15:18 |
| seb128 | alright | 15:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 15:19 |
| Laney | np | 15:19 |
| didrocks1 | seb128: do a source copy though | 15:23 |
| didrocks1 | that will avoid the upload :) | 15:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks1, right, what we just said | 15:23 |
| didrocks1 | good | 15:23 |
| === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks | ||
| seb128 | oh, you mean rather than a dput | 15:23 |
| seb128 | yeah | 15:23 |
| didrocks | yep | 15:23 |
| didrocks | if the version is good for the archive, of course | 15:24 |
| didrocks | (and yeah, no objection for me) | 15:24 |
| willcooke | seb128, +1 BlueZ | 15:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks, Laney, willcooke, cyphermox, thanks, bluez done, let's have fun ;-) | 15:26 |
| Laney | people were already complaining about wily phone being broken | 15:26 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 15:26 |
| Laney | let's give them more | 15:26 |
| Laney | \m/ | 15:26 |
| didrocks | Laney: heh | 15:26 |
| seb128 | haha | 15:26 |
| seb128 | desktop daily doesn't boot either | 15:26 |
| Laney | srsly | 15:27 |
| Laney | it got promoted | 15:27 |
| seb128 | yeah | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | working on it | 15:27 |
| seb128 | bug 1484571 | 15:27 |
| ubot5 | bug 1484571 in casper (Ubuntu) "Latest wily image is not booting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1484571 | 15:27 |
| Laney | can we stakeholderify some work to get those tests doing a little bit more? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, jibel said | 15:27 |
| seb128 | <jibel> seb128, actually installation works when the the system boots over pxe | 15:27 |
| seb128 | seb128, which what utah does IITC | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | I don't know why it got promoted though, not booting should be critical enough for things to fail :) | 15:27 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ^ | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 15:27 |
| seb128 | it boots over pxe | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | makes sense | 15:27 |
| seb128 | so yeah, maybe we need a way to test that case as well | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | it's probably broken in isolinux or some such piece way before casper | 15:28 |
| Laney | i.e. get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-test-cases/+bug/1477227 prioritised :) | 15:28 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1477227 in Ubuntu Test Cases "Desktop ISO smoke testing coverage is not very good" [Undecided,New] | 15:28 |
| Laney | willcooke: maybe we could get this on the QA team's $agile_term_for_things_to_work_on ? | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Laney, hrm, I already did. I will do so again | 15:31 |
| jibel | Laney, it's already on our $whatever_you_name_the_agile_thing | 15:32 |
| willcooke | :D | 15:32 |
| Laney | jibel: nice | 15:32 |
| Laney | it's just not possible to tell that from looking at the bug :P | 15:32 |
| jibel | Laney, indeed, we have bug 1479064 blocking ubiquity tests which should have caught this problem. I'll have someone on it after OTA6 if it is not fixed earlier. | 15:54 |
| ubot5 | bug 1479064 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Autopilot test "EnglishDefaultInstallTestCase" fails with Xubuntu i386 Wily daily ISO" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479064 | 15:54 |
| willcooke | thx jibel | 15:54 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: and crashed with UXA then… | 16:12 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: huh | 16:13 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: add a trace to the bug again | 16:14 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: hum, isn't what I've done? | 16:14 |
| didrocks | gdb.txt | 16:14 |
| didrocks | (see my comment) | 16:14 |
| tjaalton | yes, but that was with sna | 16:15 |
| tjaalton | the default | 16:15 |
| didrocks | ah, you want another one with UXA? ok | 16:15 |
| * didrocks cleans up /var/crash for next instance | 16:15 | |
| dholbach | hey hey | 16:44 |
| dholbach | seb128 did quite a bit of sponsoring today, can somebody else help take a look at the remaining items on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/? | 16:46 |
| seb128 | dholbach, hey | 16:46 |
| dholbach | thanks again seb128 | 16:46 |
| seb128 | dholbach, yw! | 16:46 |
| dholbach | sorry ... above I meant remaining desktop-ish items | 16:46 |
| seb128 | dholbach, you might want to chase up people on other channels than desktop ;-) | 16:47 |
| dholbach | there's even a few from your team mates | 16:47 |
| seb128 | yeah | 16:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, wasn't https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-control-center/non-gnome-unity-ibus-support/+merge/238293 made for you? you could test it ;-) | 16:48 |
| Laney | I don't have this setup any more | 16:48 |
| Laney | but could do in theory | 16:48 |
| seb128 | oh ok, well if you don't have the setup it's not easier for you than for somebody else | 16:49 |
| * Laney is all unity now | 16:49 | |
| * Laney the company man | 16:49 | |
| seb128 | \o/ | 16:51 |
| seb128 | k, going for some exercice | 16:57 |
| seb128 | have fun everyone, see you tomorrow | 16:57 |
| dholbach | have a great evening! | 16:57 |
| seb128 | thanks, you too ;-) | 16:57 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| Laney | right then, ttyl! | 17:08 |
| Laney | I won't be reliably online tomorrow | 17:08 |
| Laney | will be shuffling eastwards | 17:08 |
| * Laney hopes passport is in date | 17:08 | |
| willcooke | g'night all - safe travels those of you travelling | 17:09 |
| Laney | happyaron: what's the weather like there? | 17:11 |
| Laney | holy crap, 32°? | 17:11 |
| seb128 | woot, bluez5&co already migrated to wily, well handled transition ;-) | 17:57 |
| mitya57 | \o/ | 18:00 |
| seb128 | bah, in fact no, some packages migrated that clean deprecated depends or enable support for both version but bluez is blocked on buggy boottest | 18:15 |
| happyaron | Laney: it's hot in the afternoon, but a bit cold at night | 21:19 |
| seb128 | happyaron, hey, saw my ping about https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/wily/libx11/pt_PT-compose/+merge/258526 ? | 21:21 |
| happyaron | seb128: commented just now :) | 21:22 |
| seb128 | happyaron, thanks ;-) | 21:23 |
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