=== meetingology` is now known as meetingology === hikiko__ is now known as hikiko [05:02] hi [05:29] good morning [05:53] bonjour didrocks ! [05:54] hey pitti, ça va ? [05:54] ça va bien, et toi ? [05:54] maintenant que je peux reconstruire mes paquets, oui :) [05:56] :) [06:05] good morning, desktop! [06:05] hey desrt, how are you? [06:05] pretty good [06:06] hey desrt, quite early for you, even in EST time! :) [06:06] have a nice bug i'm working on now and it's one of those ones where the solution is simple but tricky to get right [06:06] so i'm happy :) [06:06] didrocks: i'm in CEST [06:14] hikiko: good morning [06:17] tjaalton: still crashing… [06:17] * didrocks almost lost 20 minutes of writing on my blog [06:17] (for the Ubuntu Make release) [06:17] fortunatly chrome is awesome [06:18] didrocks: file a new bug on xserver-xorg-video-intel, saying you have the latest [06:18] ickle (upstream) will have a look [06:19] and then you can switch to uxa (man intel) [06:20] tjaalton: doing (just after blogging) [06:21] thx [06:21] you can assign it to me [06:21] will do, thanks! [06:22] what does lspci -nn -s 0:2.0 say? [06:22] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09) [06:24] so sandybridge [06:24] hm, my t420s has one and wife is using it every day [06:25] on trusty but since the crashes happen there too.. [06:25] tjaalton: I never got the crashes before upgrading to wily here [06:25] so maybe it was less frequent? [06:26] vivid was fine as well [06:26] it really started right after upgrading to wily [06:26] that's weird then since the driver didn't change, other than a few patches from debian. base version is the same [06:30] weird, indeed… [06:30] maybe other bits make it easier to trigger then [06:31] can be [06:40] aside: does anyone know when i arrive in heidelberg? :) [06:40] you just wrote "train", so no :p [06:40] i seem to have temporarily misplaced my yubikey so i can't check the spreadsheet [06:40] i mean which day :) [06:40] pitti: how to bypass already in apport the check for ubuntu genuine package as I want to report from the ppa? /me doesn't remember [06:40] desrt: tomorrow [06:41] what?! [06:41] as Laney and I IIRC [06:41] let me recheck [06:41] zomg [06:41] 14/08/2015 [06:41] yep [06:41] didrocks: APPORT_DISABLE_DISTRO_CHECK=1 [06:41] insanity [06:41] thanks [06:41] pitti: many thanks! [06:41] desrt: I hope you know the time though :p [06:41] i should buy some train tickets or something [06:42] ahah [06:42] that was my guess ;) [06:43] desrt: I arrive at half past 3, Laney at 4something IIRC [06:43] this makes me sad [06:43] to see us tomorrow? I see :p [06:43] to leave the place where i am now [06:43] are you going back after debconf? [06:44] back home [06:49] pitti: Would you be able to upload colord at your leisure? [06:50] RAOF: sure! [06:50] RAOF: hm, the last three releases in git are UNRELEASED [06:50] Yeah, please mark the last one as to unstable. [06:50] RAOF: can you merge the changelogs? [06:51] I'm leaving that step to you, because last time I marked an upload as going to experimental it... didn't :) [06:51] ah, ok :) [06:51] pitti: 1.2.11-1 has already been rejected from NEW, but I can certainly merge the changelogs if you want. [06:52] RAOF: ah, was 1.2.10-1 uploaded at all? [06:52] No; it sat in my tree marked as “experimental”, and I thought I'd got it uploaded. [06:53] ok, so dch -r/debcommit -r/dput should be done by one person in one go; I'll do that after the changelog merge then [06:55] Merged changelog entries. [06:56] RAOF: removing existing debian/1.2.11-1 tag FYI [06:56] pitti: Yeah, good call. [06:57] W: colord source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.5 (current is 3.9.6) [07:10] RAOF: uploaded [07:10] pitti: Ta. [07:11] I'll fix those nits in git, so the next upload is lintian clean. [07:11] Modulo manpages for internal binaries, because sod that. [07:12] RAOF: moving them to /usr/lib isn't an option? [07:12] It probably is. === qengho is now known as CardinalFang === CardinalFang is now known as qengho [08:03] o/ [08:04] yo [08:05] what up Laney [08:05] morning willcooke, Laney [08:06] hey Laney, how are you? [08:08] hey willcooke didrocks pitti [08:08] doing good! [08:08] tried to watch out for some meteors last night [08:09] saw a few! [08:09] ah, the Perseides? [08:11] yeah - it was supposed to be the peak [08:11] Would have been better if I wasn't in the city though [08:11] good morning desktopers [08:11] hey willcooke Laney pitti [08:11] re didrocks [08:11] bonjour seb128 ! [08:12] hey seb128 [08:12] re seb128 [08:26] * didrocks goes for a run [08:26] didrocks, enjoy! [08:27] seb128: thanks, especially knowing that the next one will be at debconf with Laney :) [08:27] hehe [08:27] you can jog next to his bike I guess :-) [08:27] oh I didn't know the word for running and cycling were the same in france :) [08:27] seb128: that may be a way ;) [08:28] * didrocks really gone [08:28] get some skates and I can tow you [08:28] that's not the goal of "exercising", you know ;) [08:29] it'll make *me* work harder [08:43] The -desktop mailing list is now purged [08:43] \o/ [08:49] willcooke is in charge now, no need to worry anymore good desktop people, your emails are going to be moderated ;-) [08:52] s/moderated/discarded more regularly [08:52] sounds about right! === hikiko is now known as hikiko|bbl [09:35] So it looks like LP sends messages to the mailing list for each commit etc. Do we want those to be published? They're held at the moment. I don't think we want all of them on the list really. [09:35] Any thoughts one way or the other? [09:36] oh, except this messages is sent to look like it came from seb128 rather than LP [09:36] willcooke, yeah, launchpad sends comment like they were coming from the user [09:36] and no we don't want them on the list [09:37] usually that happens because somebody subscribed the wrong team to a bug [09:37] e.g ubuntu-desktop [09:44] ahh [09:44] right, yeah [09:45] I guess I'll ignore them and flush the queue once in a while [09:45] +1 [09:45] sometime those do reach the list because some of us are subscribed to the list so it goes through [09:46] I usually go to the bug and unsubscribe the team when that happens [09:46] oki, I can do that [10:40] hey seb128 [10:40] wanted to ping you quickly about that libreoffice packaging change we (xubuntu) wanted to propose [10:41] hey desktopers [10:41] seb128: so to be concrete, the packaging issue in libreoffice i wanted to ask you about is summarized here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1483914 [10:41] Ubuntu bug 1483914 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice-style-elementary as alternate to libreoffice-style-human" [Undecided,New] [10:44] Laney, can you take another look at the peripheral settings branches for u-s-d/u-c-c, given up on g-o-a patched g-c-c to not dep on g-o-a 3.16 [10:47] hey darkxst ochosi [10:47] hey seb128 [10:47] darkxst: in theory but probably not in the next two days [10:48] darkxst, the goa demote only some binaries approach is not security team approved then? [10:48] ochosi, yeah, alternative recommends seems fine to me [10:48] seb128: great! anything else we can do to move this ahead? [10:48] someone else would be more satisfactory probably [10:48] ochosi, submit a debdiff for sponsoring? ;-) [10:49] given next week is debconf :( [10:49] seb128: heh, ok i will try to get that for you (shouldn't that be a one-liner though?) [10:49] ochosi, it should yes ;-) [10:49] bahaha [10:49] have you seen libreoffice's rules file? [10:49] Laney, darkxst, maybe robert_ancell can do revieew [10:50] Laney, no, trying to avoid it! [10:50] Laney: nope [10:50] is it *that* good? :) [10:50] have a drink on standby [10:50] seb128: think he declined to do it before? [10:51] yeah, I think he said he didn't have enough clue about the topic [10:51] so good luck to find a reviewer this week I guess... [10:51] join the club [10:51] hummright [10:52] so you're saying we should start prepping the FFe already? ;) [10:53] the alternative recommends should require a ffe [10:54] not you [10:54] talking about darkxst's change [10:56] yeah, I was replying to ochosi [10:58] still got a week [10:58] (!!! only a week) [11:01] oh ok [11:09] ted, hi, any chance you can top-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/libappindicator/watch-status-notifier-watcher-dbus-name/+merge/263694 ? [11:10] this is a rebase of a branch you approved without the part you disapproved :) [11:15] * pitti rentre de courier -- trop chaud aujourd'hui ! [11:15] desrt: I probably arrive at 18:45 [11:17] pitti: il fait meilleur ici au contraire, c'était facile de courir :) [11:18] Laney: I think I'll be in the hotel lobby then [11:19] didrocks: c'était dur pour moi, j'ai perdu à aller dans le matin :/ [11:19] didrocks: cool! [11:19] pitti: oui, je me fais piéger aussi parfois [11:20] seb128, apparently no one thought that out, need webkit binaries in main to build the other stuff! and that is too confusing! [11:21] darkxst: suggest asking robert_ancell again nicely :P [11:23] Laney, he was not at all keen last time I asked [11:24] :/ [11:26] I don't think any of us are likely to know about it, so we'll all have to spend some time getting up to speed [11:26] bleh [11:26] oh well [11:38] Laney, I could setup a ppa, for testing, but not about to self sponsor without a second set of eyes looking over it [11:38] but apparently only my eyes understand the patches ;( [11:41] I don't mind doing it, just struggling for time this week [11:41] Just wish someone else would be willing too [11:46] I would be happy to do it, but I want to land the bluez5 transition first and I'm doing sponsoring shift which is really needed and still have some other small things in backlog and debconf coming as well [11:48] darkxst, yeah, I didn't fully understand how that "demote binaries only" was supposed to work, but I had too many other things to try to understand it really or argue [11:51] seb128, landing bluez5 first is fine, just so long as it gets through beore freeze (Athough I guess it will be a FFe) [11:53] in theory it works, but only if webkit2 binaries are in main, its not like I have had huge amounts of free cycles to think about this either === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:26] happyaron, can you reply on https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/wily/libx11/pt_PT-compose/+merge/258526 ? [12:30] tjaalton: FYI, 2 more crashes in 15 minutes [12:31] didrocks: switched to uxa yet? [12:31] tjaalton: no, doing that now [12:31] tjaalton: do you think I was using uxa in pre-wily? [12:31] no [12:31] it's something else triggering it [12:34] creating a Xorg.conf, so last decade! :) [12:34] yep.. [12:52] tjaalton: after another crash, running UXA now… [12:56] cool === hikiko|bbl is now known as hikiko === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [15:05] does anyone see a reason to not upload bluez5 now? [15:06] we got some testers that said it works fine and nobody came with an "hold on" on the list [15:15] willcooke, Laney, didrocks1, ^ no objection? [15:15] I didn't try it yet, but go for it if you're happy [15:15] there is time to fix stuff [15:15] cyphermox, ^ [15:15] right [15:15] I tested it several times and didrocks1 did as well [15:16] ah, no objections, by all means it's way overdue :) [15:16] ;-) [15:16] ok, let's do that then [15:16] things should Just Work (tm) [15:16] though [15:17] are we likely to inconvenience the gcc5 transition in any way while fixing the inevitable small things that will break? [15:17] Laney, didrocks1, the transitions ppa is non virtual, is that good enough to archive copy include binaries? [15:17] does it build with proposed? [15:18] unsure, how do I tell? [15:18] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions/+edit doesn't have such details [15:18] in the options page for the PPA [15:18] ah [15:18] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions/+edit-dependencies [15:18] no [15:18] and it doesn't follow archive comopnents [15:18] so probably good to rebuild [15:19] alright [15:19] Laney, thanks [15:19] np [15:23] seb128: do a source copy though [15:23] that will avoid the upload :) [15:23] didrocks1, right, what we just said [15:23] good === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks [15:23] oh, you mean rather than a dput [15:23] yeah [15:23] yep [15:24] if the version is good for the archive, of course [15:24] (and yeah, no objection for me) [15:25] seb128, +1 BlueZ [15:26] didrocks, Laney, willcooke, cyphermox, thanks, bluez done, let's have fun ;-) [15:26] people were already complaining about wily phone being broken [15:26] \o/ [15:26] let's give them more [15:26] \m/ [15:26] Laney: heh [15:26] haha [15:26] desktop daily doesn't boot either [15:27] srsly [15:27] it got promoted [15:27] yeah [15:27] working on it [15:27] bug 1484571 [15:27] bug 1484571 in casper (Ubuntu) "Latest wily image is not booting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1484571 [15:27] can we stakeholderify some work to get those tests doing a little bit more? [15:27] Laney, jibel said [15:27] seb128, actually installation works when the the system boots over pxe [15:27] seb128, which what utah does IITC [15:27] I don't know why it got promoted though, not booting should be critical enough for things to fail :) [15:27] cyphermox, ^ [15:27] yeah [15:27] it boots over pxe [15:27] makes sense [15:28] so yeah, maybe we need a way to test that case as well [15:28] it's probably broken in isolinux or some such piece way before casper [15:28] i.e. get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-test-cases/+bug/1477227 prioritised :) [15:28] Ubuntu bug 1477227 in Ubuntu Test Cases "Desktop ISO smoke testing coverage is not very good" [Undecided,New] [15:30] willcooke: maybe we could get this on the QA team's $agile_term_for_things_to_work_on ? [15:31] Laney, hrm, I already did. I will do so again [15:32] Laney, it's already on our $whatever_you_name_the_agile_thing [15:32] :D [15:32] jibel: nice [15:32] it's just not possible to tell that from looking at the bug :P [15:54] Laney, indeed, we have bug 1479064 blocking ubiquity tests which should have caught this problem. I'll have someone on it after OTA6 if it is not fixed earlier. [15:54] bug 1479064 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Autopilot test "EnglishDefaultInstallTestCase" fails with Xubuntu i386 Wily daily ISO" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479064 [15:54] thx jibel [16:12] tjaalton: and crashed with UXA then… [16:13] didrocks: huh [16:14] didrocks: add a trace to the bug again [16:14] tjaalton: hum, isn't what I've done? [16:14] gdb.txt [16:14] (see my comment) [16:15] yes, but that was with sna [16:15] the default [16:15] ah, you want another one with UXA? ok [16:15] * didrocks cleans up /var/crash for next instance [16:44] hey hey [16:46] seb128 did quite a bit of sponsoring today, can somebody else help take a look at the remaining items on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/? [16:46] dholbach, hey [16:46] thanks again seb128 [16:46] dholbach, yw! [16:46] sorry ... above I meant remaining desktop-ish items [16:47] dholbach, you might want to chase up people on other channels than desktop ;-) [16:47] there's even a few from your team mates [16:47] yeah [16:48] Laney, wasn't https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-control-center/non-gnome-unity-ibus-support/+merge/238293 made for you? you could test it ;-) [16:48] I don't have this setup any more [16:48] but could do in theory [16:49] oh ok, well if you don't have the setup it's not easier for you than for somebody else [16:49] * Laney is all unity now [16:49] * Laney the company man [16:51] \o/ [16:57] k, going for some exercice [16:57] have fun everyone, see you tomorrow [16:57] have a great evening! [16:57] thanks, you too ;-) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:08] right then, ttyl! [17:08] I won't be reliably online tomorrow [17:08] will be shuffling eastwards [17:08] * Laney hopes passport is in date [17:09] g'night all - safe travels those of you travelling [17:11] happyaron: what's the weather like there? [17:11] holy crap, 32°? [17:57] woot, bluez5&co already migrated to wily, well handled transition ;-) [18:00] \o/ [18:15] bah, in fact no, some packages migrated that clean deprecated depends or enable support for both version but bluez is blocked on buggy boottest [21:19] Laney: it's hot in the afternoon, but a bit cold at night [21:21] happyaron, hey, saw my ping about https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/wily/libx11/pt_PT-compose/+merge/258526 ? [21:22] seb128: commented just now :) [21:23] happyaron, thanks ;-)