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| * slangasek waves | 15:00 | |
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| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:01 |
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| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Aug 13 15:01:31 2015 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:01 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx) | 15:02 |
| slangasek | caribou tdaitx sil2100 robru pitti doko bdmurray cyphermox infinity slangasek barry | 15:02 |
| slangasek | no caribou here today | 15:02 |
| slangasek | tdaitx: you first then | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | Past week | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | - Transition manager: | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * learning about ben and britney | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * checking how to fix the bad dependencies | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * got python-apt to work | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * Laney solved the same issue in a different approach | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * discovered the glories of grep-dctrl | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | - FTBFS: | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * investigated notmuch; was failing due dtach running with TERM="unknown" | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * found ceph fix on github, tested, and debdiff'ed it (LP: #1483403) | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1483403 in ceph (Ubuntu) "ceph FTBFS with boost1.58" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483403 | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * opened Debian #795178 for ceph as well | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 795178 in src:ceph "ceph FTBFS with boost1.58" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/795178 | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | - OpenJDK | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * tracking down LP: #1482924 | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1482924 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "Regressions due to USN-2696-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482924 | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * OpenJDK 6/7 supports TLS 1.1/1.2, but TLS 1.0 is the default | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | * patched and tested OpenJDK 7 to default to TLS 1.2 | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | Next week | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | - figure out what needs to be backported from OpenJDK 8 into 7 and 6 | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | - backport TLS 1.2 to OpenJDK 7 and 6 | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | Waiting/On hold | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | - TCK validation for OpenJDK 7 (doko) | 15:03 |
| tdaitx | Updates | 15:03 |
| tdaitx | - was pointed to IS wiki pages and got ssh/sshebang to work | 15:03 |
| tdaitx | - applied for a new passport (will collect it tomorrow, then start the US visa process) | 15:03 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Brain overheating, need to move away to some icy place srsly | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Find root cause of failing armhf image builds - fixed by copying timezonemap binaries to overlay | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Sending out a quick guideline e-mail for landings | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Creating an uploading manual langpack packages for china images | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Investigate system-image importer crashing on the g++5 channel delta generation | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | * Custom tarballs corrupted, chased it down with ogra, tyhicks and jdstrand to an issue in apparmor | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Updated CI Train bileto and sync documentation | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Fixing commitlog case when cdimage build does not have a new rootfs build associated | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - i386 rc-proposed not-building: | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | * Fixed issue with thumbnailer hard-depping on a -gles version that didn't exist | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | * Looking into and getting a head-ache from packages ignoring the 'provides' fields | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | * Probably related to the new apt in vivid being more strict | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Launchpad overlay translation enablement | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | * Copying over few missing touch packages to overlay to enable 15.04 exports | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | * Requesting batch copies, coordinating imports, requesting auto-exports/auto-uploads | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | - Starting to wrap my head around britney1 and britney2 code | 15:04 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 15:04 |
| robru | * Bileto: | 15:04 |
| robru | - fixed various small UX papercuts (dashboard jumpiness, SSO teams checked by default, dialog text when abandoning a request) | 15:04 |
| robru | - achieved 100% test coverage for python backend | 15:04 |
| robru | - allow API searches against multiple fields | 15:04 |
| robru | - pagination in both backend and frontend | 15:04 |
| robru | * Cupstream2distro: | 15:04 |
| robru | - Added check to reject building/configuring superceded merges. | 15:04 |
| robru | - generated new API token in wake of minor leak, and squashed the leaky code (with regression tests) | 15:04 |
| robru | - get some stuff that was cowboyed in production and commit it to trunk | 15:04 |
| robru | ✓ done like dinner | 15:04 |
| pitti | - g++ 5 transitions and related FTBFS and autopkgtest fixes on 4 days | 15:04 |
| pitti | - eat ice cream every day to compensate for the blood and sweat from above | 15:04 |
| pitti | - Port sessioninstaller to Python 3 (#1440368) | 15:04 |
| pitti | - systemd: Fix "systemctl link" (#1480310), debug screen locking during dist-upgrade (#1473800, ongoing) | 15:04 |
| pitti | - britney: Fix handling of unbuilt reverse deps (#1483481), took a few iterations as it's quite hairy | 15:04 |
| pitti | EOT | 15:04 |
| doko | pitti, do you expense that? | 15:05 |
| pitti | is anybody not? :-) | 15:05 |
| pitti | (also, it's vital food now -- EOVERHEAT) | 15:05 |
| doko | - transitions ... | 15:05 |
| doko | - was at GNU Cauldron last week(end) | 15:05 |
| doko | (done) | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | implemented the display of package pockets on the package versions table in errors | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | tested staging update of errors showing package pockets | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | submitted RT to have production/staging versions of errors/daisy updated to show package pockets | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | fixed an issue with the display of the pocket for packages for Ubuntu RTM 14.09 | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | submitted RT to have production/staging versions of errors/daisy updated to fix RTM pockets | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | reported and fixed errors LP linking bug LP: #1483826 | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1483826 in Errors "If the package version in the version table is from an unknown source don't build an LP link" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483826 | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | review of retracing failures for ways to improve | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | updated meta-release* for Trusty point release | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | wrote retracer missing executable log finding code | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | discussed with stub adding another dse node | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | uploaded apport SRU for T, V fixing LP: #1470572 | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1470572 in apport (Ubuntu Vivid) "native-origins.d information causes apport to strip origin information from Package" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470572 | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | ubiquity, update-manager bug triage | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | merged whoopsie merge proposal | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | review of a bug control application | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | sponsored some patches | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | created a proper fix for bash-completion bug LP: #1358154 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1358154 in bash-completion (Debian) "Bash autocompletion not working for apt command" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358154 | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | cyphermox is next right? | 15:08 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - debugging samba ppc64el hangs on trusty (LP: #1472584) | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - NM fixes for wifi scanning and ofono - ipv6 | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - looked into UTF-8 issues with console-setup in ubiquity install | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1472584 in samba (Ubuntu) "ISST-LTE: Samba server doesn't work well on Ubuntu 14.04.3 on ppc64el" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472584 | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - uploaded multipath-tools SRU for trusty | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - partman-base fix for rpmb mmcs (LP: #1456443) | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - ipmitool SRU (LP: #1481780) | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - capser lightdm autologin fix | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1456443 in OEM Priority Project "Skip eMMC device's boot0, boot1 and rpmb partitions" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456443 | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1481780 in ipmitool (Ubuntu Trusty) "ipmitool 1.8.13 needs 2 patches for OpenPower systems" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481780 | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | (done) | 15:09 |
| slangasek | sil2100: what 'provides' fields did you have being ignored? | 15:10 |
| slangasek | no infinity, so | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * gcc-5 transition: things are going well, gcc-defaults got unblocked this week and many individual libraries have made it through | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * we still have the main mass of entangled library transitions to push in (the one that requires proposed-migration to hint several hundred packages at the same time and fails because it can't figure out how to make 10,000 binary packages installable), but this is being worked on | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * miscellaneous bug fixes uploaded, various leaf packages removed from wily | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * travel: | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * DebConf15 starts this weekend; I'll be out from tomorrow | 15:11 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:11 |
| slangasek | * LinuxCon, Plumbers, etc are next week so I'll be there from Wednesday afternoon to Friday | 15:11 |
| slangasek | barry: | 15:12 |
| barry | looked at buildbot build failures (debian bug #794300). need upstream help; bug filed. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 794300 in buildbot "buildbot: FTBFS on unstable and needs rebuild for sqlalchemy transition" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/794300 | 15:12 |
| barry | worked on django for py35. will require an update to 1.8.3 from experimental, which is undergoing its own stalled transition. created ppa pythoneers/py35django18 to track this, which is stacked on py35asdefault. django itself builds but several of the other django related/dependent packages in the archive ftbfs | 15:12 |
| barry | long and difficult work on pytables (LP: #1478146) 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 builds now but apparently segfaults its dep-8 tests. still investigating that. | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1478146 in pytables (Ubuntu Wily) "pytables FTBFS with python3.5" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478146 | 15:12 |
| barry | --done-- | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: well, that's what it seems it's doing... nothing changed in deps and suddenly the -gles versions of UITK are not installed when apps are depending on UITK, even though the -gles ones have 'Provides' of the UITK ones in packaging | 15:12 |
| slangasek | sil2100: can you give me an exact package name / provides? | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: so suddenly everything went to hell and things that apt could install correctly suddenly causes a 'conflicts' and ubuntu-touch became uninstallable | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin-gles prodives and conflicts with qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin | 15:14 |
| sil2100 | A whole batch of packages dep on qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin, and on the i386 versions -gles should be installed instead - in the past it just worked if the build system pulled in qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin-gles | 15:15 |
| slangasek | so one thing you may be seeing is the effect of the random ordering of things through seeds; if something $somewhere changed that caused dependencies to be traversed in a different order, and you were previously forcing qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin-gles but now qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin is getting seen first | 15:15 |
| slangasek | sil2100: where does the failure show up? | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: on the i386 cdimage builds but also locally when I try it in a chroot... there was no seeds change, but there was a new apt uploaded, so maybe now it traverses the deps differently | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | Anyway, still looking into that, want to see what actually changed in apt | 15:16 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:17 |
| slangasek | any other questions re: status? | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | Might be something else... but I checked all changes in our touch packages, experimented a lot with deps in the chroot and nothing, so I started looking into the apt direction | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | Timeline-wise it seems possible | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: when infinity will be back? :) | 15:18 |
| slangasek | good question | 15:18 |
| * sil2100 wants to molest him a bit about britney pop-star stuff | 15:18 | |
| * bdmurray shakes head | 15:19 | |
| slangasek | sil2100: oh, and you know there's a follow-up SRU to apt that's currently in vivid-proposed which hasn't been released yet? there was a regression that was critical-path for 14.04.3, but considered less relevant to vivid; perhaps there's *some* interaction there | 15:21 |
| slangasek | sil2100: "oops I did it again" is not an endorsed engineering practice in Ubuntu | 15:21 |
| barry | despite it being the best pop song of the last 50 years | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | if it were it would be "toxic" | 15:22 |
| * pitti takes notes to not break britney a third time :) | 15:22 | |
| slangasek | ok | 15:23 |
| slangasek | anything else? :) | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: What's up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1471903? | 15:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1471903 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "-updates, -security missing from apt lists" [High,In progress] | 15:23 |
| sil2100 | bdmurray: was waiting for infinity to take a look at it, slangasek agrees with this proposition but Adam seemed to have some concerns | 15:25 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: ;) | 15:26 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: I'll look into that apt upload, I saw it but didn't know yet what it was about | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: okay, thanks | 15:26 |
| slangasek | sil2100: have you asked infinity to look at it? | 15:26 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: sent an e-mail yesterday + some -proposed stuff, but it seems he wasn't around yesterday as well | 15:27 |
| slangasek | sil2100: he was around, but that's not the same as replying to an email | 15:28 |
| slangasek | sil2100: by -proposed do you mean you uploaded an SRU? | 15:28 |
| sil2100 | No, -proposed migration questions (regarding britney and not only) | 15:29 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:29 |
| slangasek | anything else (x2)? | 15:30 |
| slangasek | everyone still has enough to work on at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ ? | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | in anything else, | 15:31 |
| barry | oh yes :) | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | apparently today's image is broken in not-EFI | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | doesn't boot. | 15:31 |
| slangasek | I would like to see the main transition un-stick by the end of the week; if you aren't sure which pieces to help with for that, you can check with Laney or doko on #ubuntu-release | 15:31 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: yes, I've just seen a bug report from davmor2 come through about this. have you reproduced the failure? | 15:32 |
| slangasek | (and who uploaded what?) | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | working on it | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | I've reproduced the non-failure on EFI | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | and now I've reproduced the failure | 15:33 |
| slangasek | there is a new syslinux in wily as of 20 hours ago | 15:33 |
| slangasek | possibly the first build with gcc5 | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | that's the most likely culprit, in fact | 15:33 |
| slangasek | definitely the first build with gcc5 | 15:34 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: just added a comment to my bug yesterday image boots fine so it is only todays build that is broken | 15:34 |
| barry | slangasek: can you rename this one: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/python3.3-5.html | 15:34 |
| cyphermox | I'll check that out, I'll roll my own CD to see | 15:34 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: want to build-depend on gcc-4.9 as a short-term workaround while debugging further? since this is C not C++ there's no compatibility problem with rolling back temporarily | 15:34 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: and handing you bug #1484571 | 15:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1484571 in syslinux (Ubuntu) "Latest wily image is not booting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1484571 | 15:35 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: yeah, that could be a good temporary solution so people don't get unbootable systems for the time being | 15:35 |
| slangasek | barry: done | 15:35 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: it's not "people get unbootable systems", syslinux is only used on the CDs - but we need the CDs to be bootable to make sure the g++ transition isn't leaving the OS on the floor. So please revert syslinux to gcc-4.9 asap and we can continue debugging after | 15:36 |
| barry | slangasek: thanks. does it take a while to show up on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ ? | 15:36 |
| slangasek | barry: ~1h | 15:37 |
| barry | slangasek: ack | 15:37 |
| slangasek | (possibly less now that I've been trying to prune the done transitions from the list) | 15:37 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: I think this would also likely break people trying to use usb-creator to write iso images to USB, even if the iso was good. | 15:37 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: sure; it won't break bootability of an existing system, at least, but is still critical :) | 15:38 |
| cyphermox | of course, fixing that now :) | 15:38 |
| slangasek | thanks | 15:39 |
| slangasek | anything else? (x3) | 15:39 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Aug 13 15:40:54 2015 UTC. | 15:40 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-08-13-15.01.moin.txt | 15:40 |
| slangasek | thanks! | 15:40 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:41 |
| pitti | thanks everyone! | 15:41 |
| pitti | see some of you next week at debconf! | 15:41 |
| barry | pitti: have fun! | 15:43 |
| Quatravius | Hi | 17:28 |
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