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kadiro	oh yes omg my fault	00:00
kadiro	i'm thinking sleep count for miliseconds	00:00
FrankFromHR	locate	00:00
kadiro	good night every body	00:06
Johnny_Linux	sleep 10.000	00:06
kadiro	loll Johnny_Linux th's :)	00:06
Johnny_Linux	nn	00:06
daftykins	tgm4883: but then he'll be back :(	00:07
daftykins	;)	00:07
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OneM_Industries	How do I set up raid 1 in ubuntu 14.04?	00:14
Bashing-om	!raid OneM_Industries	00:15
Bashing-om	raid \| OneM_Industries	00:16
Bashing-om	!raid \| OneM_Industries	00:17
ubottu	OneM_Industries: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	00:17
OneM_Industries	Hm, this looks fun.	00:17
OneM_Industries	How hard do you think this will be? Could a beginner do it?	00:18
daftykins	OneM_Industries: bad idea :)	00:18
daftykins	especially if you intend to have the OS installed to the RAID volume	00:18
checkItOut	surgy sleep 30s	00:19
daftykins	i would say no no no no no	00:19
OneM_Industries	Bother.	00:19
OneM_Industries	Ok, I will just use this as a backup drive.	00:19
tgm4883	checkItOut: I think you're a bit behind	00:21
OneM_Industries	Oooh...I hate working on running boxes...	00:22
OneM_Industries	Especially when they are mine...	00:22
cliluw	How do I use "kill" to kill a bash job that I see in "jobs"?	00:25
surgy	yo	00:26
tgm4883	surgy: !	00:27
surgy	tgm4883, still didnt work even with delay	00:27
tgm4883	cliluw: kill <PID>	00:27
surgy	Unable to connect to X server	00:27
surgy	Unable to connect to X server	00:27
surgy	Unable to connect to X server	00:27
tgm4883	surgy: did you sleep for 30 seconds or 3000 seconds	00:27
surgy	tgm4883, but if i run the script from the terminal it works...	00:27
daftykins	surgy: please don't paste here in future.	00:27
teward	how can i refresh the ssh-agent and get it to recognize my ssh key and cache passcodes/etc	00:28
jamesd	cliluw: jobs -l # get pid then kill it	00:28
tgm4883	surgy: can you pastebin your script?	00:28
surgy	tgm4883, http://www.pasteall.org/60430	00:28
OneM_Industries	Odd, I cannot see the new drive.	00:28
OneM_Industries	I have run lsblk.	00:28
cliluw	jamesd: That should come in handy. Thank you.	00:28
daftykins	OneM_Industries: from what, a live session? "sudo fdisk -l \| pastebinit"	00:29
tgm4883	surgy: you probably need to set display, something like "DISPLAY=:0"	00:29
OneM_Industries	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12066981/	00:30
surgy	tgm4883, i dont understand? i dont have to set a display when i run the script in a terminal	00:30
surgy	tgm4883, if i opened a terminal right now and ran the script it would run with 0 errors	00:30
daftykins	OneM_Industries: is the new one the 2TB /dev/sdc ? what do you want to do with it, mount it as backup then?	00:31
OneM_Industries	Yes.	00:31
daftykins	OneM_Industries: "sudo blkid \| pastebinit"	00:31
surgy	tgm4883, can i make crontab actually run the script after 30 seconds? instead of running the script first or would that make a difference?	00:31
OneM_Industries	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12066986/	00:31
tgm4883	surgy: that wouldn't make a difference	00:31
daftykins	OneM_Industries: that doesn't look right...	00:32
daftykins	oh 'cause it's not partitioned	00:32
daftykins	<--- idiot	00:32
OneM_Industries	Oh....	00:32
daftykins	OneM_Industries: so use gparted to create an ext4 partition on it first	00:32
OneM_Industries	That would do it.	00:32
daftykins	:) we both had the same mistake	00:32
OneM_Industries	Thank you!	00:33
OneM_Industries	Also, oddly enough, this drive was cheaper at best buy than newegg.	00:33
OneM_Industries	By around $50.	00:33
reverser	wow	00:33
surgy	tgm4883, i dont understand why im getting these errors..... should i make the delay longer?	00:33
reverser	no u should not	00:34
tgm4883	surgy: how long does it take you to boot?	00:34
OneM_Industries	Gparted cannot see /dev/sdc	00:34
surgy	tgm4883, are we counting from grub? or from when the first "kubuntu" logo shows?	00:34
tgm4883	from grub	00:34
surgy	maybe 30 ish seconds	00:34
tgm4883	surgy: are you running Unity?	00:35
surgy	tgm4883, kde	00:36
surgy	tgm4883, kubuntu 14.04	00:37
tgm4883	surgy: how many users are on this system, just you?	00:37
surgy	tgm4883, just me and good ol sudo	00:37
boze	my sony tv has bad edid. the xorg log says DFP-1 contradicts itself. I exported an edid from a windows box and set up the lines in xorg.conf with the nvidia utility nvidia-xconfig --custom-edid, but it doesn't seem to register :/	00:37
OneM_Industries	Any ideas for the type of partition table I should use?	00:38
tgm4883	surgy: I still think you need to set DISPLAY. Do this, switch to TTY1 (ctrl+alt+F1), login and try to run the script. You can get back to graphical land by doing Ctrl+Alt+F7	00:38
Halfwit	boze: Try turning it off until you're into the graphical client. After that, turn the televinios on, and go into nvidia-settings (Leave it off during boot, I had this same malfunction occur)	00:39
Halfwit	boze: Television *	00:39
daftykins	boze: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why	00:40
boze	daftykins: thanks	00:40
LambdaComplex	Televinios. Sounds Italian.	00:40
boze	Halfwit: so, boot up with the tv off then turn it on?	00:40
Halfwit	It is electrically transported assorted wines, clearly.	00:40
OneM_Industries	daftykins: what kind of partition table do you think I should use?	00:40
Halfwit	boze: It can't hurt to try .	00:40
surgy	tgm4883, yeah i got the same error	00:41
tgm4883	surgy: ok, now add "export DISPLAY=:0" before the first xinput line and try again	00:41
surgy	tgm4883, i got the cannot conect to x server error in tty1	00:41
daftykins	OneM_Industries: msdos	00:41
daftykins	so MBR standard	00:42
OneM_Industries	Ok....seems pretty outdated..	00:42
surgy	tgm4883, is DISPLAY=:0 the correct screen ? i have two	00:42
LambdaComplex	OneM_Industries: Generally MBR if you're doing BIOS booting and GPT if you're doing UEFI	00:42
OneM_Industries	Nice nick.	00:42
OneM_Industries	HL1 reference?	00:42
Halfwit	LambdaComplex: ^	00:43
tgm4883	surgy: probably	00:43
LambdaComplex	OneM_Industries: Yep!	00:44
OneM_Industries	Still can't see the drive.	00:44
LambdaComplex	Most people guess I really like lambda calculus.	00:44
surgy	tgm4883, worked in tty1 gonna check in a real reboot brb	00:45
tats	Bashing-om, i'm back	00:46
Halfwit	LambdaComplex: Or Haskell.	00:47
OneM_Industries	Odd, I formatted the drive and put a partitioning table on it, and I still can't see it.	00:47
surgy	tgm4883, same error	00:47
Bashing-om	tats: L; here we go again then . show 'sudo apt-get install vlc ' .	00:47
tgm4883	dang it	00:47
surgy	tgm4883, worked in tty1 though	00:48
LambdaComplex	Halfwit: I try to make a nerdy reference and all I get is out-nerded.	00:48
tats	Bashing-om, here's the result of update + dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/S5Q4L3X4	00:48
tgm4883	surgy: out of curiosity, lets add the script to your startup applications in KDE, rather than cron	00:48
surgy	tgm4883, im gonna give it a 60 second delay along with the display thing	00:48
Bashing-om	tats: http://pastebin.com/S5Q4L3X4 .	00:48
tats	Bashing-om, install vlc yields same error as before	00:48
surgy	tgm4883, and if that doesnt work ill try startup applications	00:49
tgm4883	ok	00:49
Halfwit	boze: Any successes?	00:49
OneM_Industries	Got it!	00:49
daftykins	OneM_Industries: huzzah, so now just add it to /etc/fstab of course	00:50
OneM_Industries	Oh.	00:50
OneM_Industries	Fstab.d?	00:50
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boze	Halfwit: naw :( I'm looking at the log. I see the line where it reads the xorg.conf it says Option "CustomEDID" "GPU-0.DFP-2:/etc/X11/sony_edid.txt" but there doesn't seem to be any rejection messages	00:51
boze	just kinda reads it and doesn't do anything with it	00:51
daftykins	OneM_Industries: no /etc/fstab	00:51
surgy	tgm4883, solved!	00:51
daftykins	when i types it, i means it :D	00:51
tgm4883	surgy: nice	00:51
OneM_Industries	Got it, what next?	00:51
surgy	tgm4883, thank you very very much!	00:51
surgy	tgm4883, for the record i gave it a 60 second delay. it usually takes me a few minutes to get all of my graphics programs open and chat at ref images anyways	00:52
daftykins	OneM_Industries: you created a mount point of /media/somethinghere and put that whole UUID entry into /etc/fstab already?	00:52
OneM_Industries	Uh.	00:53
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OneM_Industries	First time doing this, so hold on.	00:53
daftykins	what did you mean by 'what next' then? what did you do with that file?	00:53
boze	There are some interesting bits about the HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges O_o	00:53
OneM_Industries	I opened the file, not sure what to do next.	00:54
boze	I like to think i'm capable at these things, but er ma gerd. this is a toughy	00:54
augusto	hi. I	00:54
OneM_Industries	Ok, made a file in /media/, now for /etc/fstab	00:55
Bashing-om	tats: Not a good solution, but presently all I know to do is install the correct library and hope the system rebuilds .	00:55
daftykins	OneM_Industries: so you can see where your / and any other partitions get mounted? you need to cursor to the bottom of the file and add a new entry for the new disk. the beginning will read "UUID=blah" which you get from sudo blkid, then you fill out the rest. pastebinit /etc/fstab if you need a hand.	00:55
daftykins	OneM_Industries: folder, not file	00:55
OneM_Industries	Folder, I mean.	00:55
tats	Bashing-om, sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa=10.5.2-0ubuntu1	00:55
augusto	hi. I'm trying to recover the grub bootloader. I did update-grub and after grub-install /dev/sda but doesn't work. Always I get the grub rescue bootloader	00:55
tats	Bashing-om, ?	00:56
Halfwit	boze: Is this via the HDMI port, or are you plugging in to a VGA?	00:56
Bashing-om	tats: Yeah. that looks like what I remember .	00:56
boze	Halfwit: it's HDMI	00:56
wileee	augusto, The sda install from a live?	00:56
* surgy spreads peanut butter on a squirrel		00:56
Halfwit	boze: Yeah. My Sony TV was older, but through either VGA or HDMI, I never did get satisfactory results.	00:57
augusto	wileee, I installed from a live. Now, I'm using from the /dev/gpt10	00:58
wileee	augusto, You install as legacy if a uefi windows model?	00:58
boze	Halfwit: mines older too :p I'm on windows 7 for tv purposes cause windows media center, but I they discontinued that software	00:58
augusto	uefi mode	00:58
boze	Halfwit: try'n to quit the windows habit completely	00:59
wileee	augusto, You don't put grub in the mbr on a uefi ubuntu install.	00:59
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Halfwit	boze: I did so long ago. I'm now the resident tech expert to help others, though. You never really are free.	00:59
OneM_Industries	This look good, daftykins? UUID=51f9e54e-14d0-45b5-9128-0bb4fb6630f7 /media/william/HHDPART2 ext4	01:00
augusto	ok. how can i put grub in the mbr ? -> update-grub -> grub-install /dev/sda ?	01:00
wileee	augusto, Hard to really tell what you have done. Start from the beginning with the install and what you've done, to the channel.	01:00
uno1	alguien de españa???	01:00
Halfwit	un poco	01:01
augusto	hehehe. I did it several times	01:01
tats	Bashing-om, what i don't get is that this will remove a lot of packages (including core ones like xserver-xorg) but it won't reinstall them. so should i take notes of the packages that will be removed in order to reinstall them after?	01:01
boze	Halfwit: do you think buying a new TV would help or is ubuntu as an HTPC a non-starter?	01:01
uno1	hola Halfwit , te puedo preguntar algo???	01:01
wileee	!es \| uno1	01:02
ubottu	uno1: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.	01:02
tgm4883	boze: lots of people use Ubuntu as a HTPC	01:02
boze	Halfwit: I anticipate headaches trying to use myth tv + xbmc	01:02
daftykins	OneM_Industries: show me the edited file in a pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu.com	01:02
Halfwit	boze: See, that's the thing though. XBMC through my Pi was flawless.	01:02
boze	Halfwit: specifically scheduled tv recording	01:03
Halfwit	boze: It's like you watch TheTex.	01:03
OneM_Industries	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067220/	01:03
Halfwit	TheTek	01:03
uno1	gracias , :) ubottu	01:03
boze	Halfwit: idk that one	01:04
Halfwit	boze: Just a YT channel.	01:04
Bashing-om	tats: Will be a good idea, just in case we can not get to the log files , to take notes .	01:04
tgm4883	boze: There is DVR software for Linux	01:05
boze	tgm4883: myth tv?	01:05
tgm4883	boze: yes	01:05
Halfwit	Read up.	01:05
boze	tgm4883: thank you	01:05
boze	tgm4883: I have edid woes to resolve :(	01:06
tgm4883	boze: there's even a ubuntu distro for that (Mythbuntu)	01:06
tgm4883	boze: can you not ignore the edid and manually configure it all?	01:06
tats	Bashing-om, it's started. fingers crossed.	01:07
boze	tgm4883: I've been trying, not with much luck. I like to find the problem when I'm debugging instead of trial and error and i'm clueless here	01:07
boze	tgm4883: it's all greek	01:07
modnaR	Hi. Just a general question: pkill -fe eggdrop would kill all processes matching that name, correct?	01:07
daftykins	OneM_Industries: one sec	01:07
blendax	provided it's an exact match, yes	01:08
Halfwit	boze: With what I was saying before, there was no EDID configuring on my side. I simply open nvidia-settings, and profit.	01:08
augusto	join #debian	01:08
augusto	ops	01:08
augusto	hehe	01:08
blendax	or maybe i didn't know about using * in pkill :)	01:08
boze	Halfwit: maybe i should just get a new tv :P	01:09
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blendax	i always did something like : for i in $(pgrep -f eggdrop); do kill $i; done	01:09
boze	i over paid though :( hard to part with it	01:09
modnaR	blendax: So, if in "ps x" I see something like "./eggdrop botnick.conf" and if I use pkill -fe eggdrop this will kill all processes matching the name eggdrop?	01:09
Halfwit	Cognitive dissonance	01:09
daftykins	OneM_Industries: i'd recommend changing that capital letter name and using something more conventional like this; http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067269/ - also note that ideally you tab between those values and not hit spaces like i did.	01:09
tats	Bashing-om, done.	01:09
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blendax	i'm actually not sure if you can use wildcards w/ pkill.. checking the google	01:10
blendax	the above snippet i posted will definitely get everything with 'eggdrop' in it	01:10
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modnaR	blendax: Cool, thank you.	01:10
blendax	np	01:10
OneM_Industries	Saved.	01:10
Halfwit	boze: For instance, my sony is well capable of 1080p. It isn't, however, capable of doing so via VGA.	01:11
daftykins	OneM_Industries: so make sure that mount point exists, "sudo mkdir /media/william/backup" then type "sudo mount -a" - it should complete without errors.	01:11
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boze	Halfwit: I mean. I've been using this tv for years as an htpc in windows at 1080i. just no dice switching to ubuntu :(	01:12
daftykins	boze: you just need to actually work on it rather than go on about it in here :)	01:12
boze	daftykins: edid and modelines tinker tinker	01:13
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boze	daftykins: i'll stop ranting, i've been at this for weeks though :p	01:13
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daftykins	boze: i suspect your approach isn't quite right, or your modelines are bad. i've often heard of people taking an EDID from Windows and it failing to be useful	01:13
daftykins	try generating one from scratch	01:14
daftykins	OneM_Industries: you got a result on the above? i'd really like to dip out and get some food if so...	01:14
OneM_Industries	Yep, go ahead.	01:14
daftykins	cool, won't be long regardless	01:14
tats	Bashing-om, looks like it solved it? sudo apt-get install vlc --simulate: http://pastebin.com/fHGzqZUT	01:15
OneM_Industries	If I was keeping you from food, sorry!	01:15
daftykins	OneM_Industries: nah more i am keeping me from food :D once mounted check your permissions with "ls -al /media/william/ \| pastebinit" and share the link here	01:15
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OneM_Industries	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067293/	01:17
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daftykins	OneM_Industries: ok so to finish up, you need to change it so it's writeable by your user (i.e. your user can write to that path) "sudo chown -R william: /media/william/backup" (where 'william' is your username and 'backup' or 'backups' is the path you mounted it to, i can't tell from there	01:31
daftykins	)	01:32
surgy	hi	01:32
surgy	tgm4883, hello :)	01:32
OneM_Industries	Thank you so much!	01:32
OneM_Industries	It works!	01:33
surgy	tgm4883, now that kubuntu is running exactly the way i want it to I would like to make a disk image of exactly how i have everything set up. including drivers and all of my settings. :) how do i go about doing this?	01:33
daftykins	OneM_Industries: np :)	01:34
OneM_Industries	So, now to figure out how to schedule regular backups...	01:34
OneM_Industries	To the Google!	01:34
daftykins	!backup	01:35
ubottu	There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	01:35
daftykins	^_^	01:36
Bashing-om	tats: Had to see what my dogs had treed. look'n at your http://pastebin.com/fHGzqZUT .	01:36
Halfwit	Bashing-om: Dinner?	01:36
Bashing-om	Halfwit: Not this time . What ever it was got away .	01:39
xxdkxx	OneM try using rsync	01:39
Bashing-om	tats: Hey, looks good to me .. pull the trigger and let the mayhem commence .	01:39
tats	Bashing-om, ok started install of vlc	01:41
tats	Bashing-om, i will also try to reinstall important packages that were uninstalled by our previous forced reinstall. i have made simulations to reinstall the stuff that was removed. some of them i couldn't reinstall but the crux of them should work. this simulation passes: http://pastebin.com/xi1FHncs	01:42
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tats	Bashing-om, hurray!!! vlc is back and running! running install of http://pastebin.com/xi1FHncs	01:44
Bashing-om	!yay \| tats	01:45
ubottu	tats: Glad you made it! :-)	01:45
Bashing-om	tats: Once we are up .. turn on the PPAs ONE at a time, running 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' before and after EACH one .	01:46
tats	Bashing-om, i think i might be more careful from now on concerning ppas...	01:47
tats	Bashing-om, are there some general advices (aside from "don't install ppas!!!")?	01:47
* {qwerty} ist away (-going offline- by ckras.com)		01:49
liu	qq,咋么用不了啊	01:49
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Bashing-om	tats: Have a need, check the software repository 1st for an application, when you do install from a PPA check what is installed and look for conflicts. PPAs in and of it's self is a great thing IF you trust the source .	01:49
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Bashing-om	tats: Might be a good thing now to look and see what the package manager considers prphaned ' sudo apt-get -s autoremove ' .	01:51
Bashing-om	orphaned *	01:51
tats	Bashing-om, good. it's still installing. i'll autoremove after.	01:51
Bashing-om	tats: Yeah, await that 'til we are sure the system is stable .	01:52
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tats	Bashing-om, thanks a lot for your help by the way, i would never have done it without you :) and in the process learned a few things about the package system	01:52
tats	Bashing-om++	01:52
Ben64	autoremove can remove things you want though	01:52
Bashing-om	Ben64: tats ^^ yeah .. why it is the simulate, look before we pull that trigger .	01:53
tats	Bashing-om, ok reinstalling all those things will take time though, still waiting for it to finish. i will simulate autoremove then.	01:55
Bashing-om	tats: You can learn a lot about the system getting familiar with dpkg : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites .	01:55
shovel_b1ss	how do i pirate games on linux	01:56
Ben64	shovel_b1ss: thats not allowed on this channel or this network	01:56
wileee	!pirate	01:56
Bashing-om	tats: After the current installs complete . Before else need to make sure the system is stable .	01:56
* {qwerty} ist away (-going offline- by ckras.com)		02:01
* {qwerty} ist away (-going offline- by ckras.com)		02:03
daftykins	{qwerty}: could you disable that away script in this channel please?	02:04
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arooni-mobile	hey everyone. question: i recently installed ubuntu lts 14.04 on my laptop. i was following some guide on 10 things you should do after installing ubuntu 14.04; and somehow my gnome-terminal got set at version 3.10.2... i'm pretty sure that this was not the version that came with 14.04; because i can't seem to set the background image of the terminal to something. how do i get back the original gnome-terminal?	02:15
daftykins	!info gnome-terminal trusty	02:16
ubottu	gnome-terminal (source: gnome-terminal): GNOME terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 105 kB, installed size 719 kB	02:16
arooni-mobile	so my gnome-terminal is behind the times	02:16
daftykins	no ahead...	02:16
daftykins	3.10 > 3.6	02:16
daftykins	arooni-mobile: "apt-cache policy gnome-terminal \| pastebinit"	02:16
popey	arooni-mobile: sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal=3.6.2-0ubuntu1	02:17
popey	that'll force the version, but you'll get a newer next time you update if you have a ppa enabled (which daftykins' command will tell us)	02:17
daftykins	a late popey!	02:17
daftykins	travels? :)	02:17
popey	indeed	02:17
popey	hah	02:18
arooni-mobile	daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067630/	02:18
popey	purge dem ppas!	02:18
arooni-mobile	500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/towolf/transparent-gnome-terminal/ubuntu/ trusty/main i386 Packages ;; thats what i should elminiate	02:19
arooni-mobile	i gatehr	02:19
arooni-mobile	* gather	02:19
daftykins	so essentially that random site you followed had you did some nasty things to your lovely install	02:20
popey	hah	02:20
arooni-mobile	i'm not a perfect man	02:20
daftykins	arooni-mobile: you probably need some fear put into you about the dangers of PPAs :)	02:21
arooni-mobile	so i removed the offending ppas	02:21
arooni-mobile	so now i just sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-terminal ?	02:22
daftykins	you should really have kept them on and used...	02:22
daftykins	!ppapurge	02:22
ubottu	To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html	02:22
arooni-mobile	well i'm trying to take initiative	02:22
arooni-mobile	so i removed them via software sources	02:23
arooni-mobile	so should i put them back and then purge them after?	02:23
daftykins	should work	02:23
wileee	using ppa's are like underwater cave diving, you always have a return rope	02:24
arooni-mobile	how do i get the ppa line; if i have a URL http://ppa.launchpad.net/towolf/transparent-gnome-terminal/ubuntu/	02:25
daftykins	how did it have you add that one?	02:26
arooni-mobile	i guess i have to walk my steps back on this one	02:26
arooni-mobile	followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/605986/how-can-i-upgrade-gnome-terminal-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts	02:26
arooni-mobile	will now follow again so i can undo	02:26
daftykins	sounds good	02:27
arooni-mobile	if this is how gnome-temrinal progresses in the future, count me out; i liked the background image feature	02:27
raytion	what are u talking about	02:27
daftykins	raytion: this is a support channel, for asking ubuntu support questions.	02:28
daftykins	either ask a question of your own, or chat in #ubuntu-offtopic	02:29
arooni-mobile	where do a list of ppas get written to ? /etc/apt/sources.list doesnt seem to have all of them?	02:32
Ben64	inside sources.list.d/	02:32
raytion	other Folder	02:33
daftykins	though the ones in ^ are likely the ones you could remove with ppapurge	02:33
Bashing-om	arooni-mobile: A quicky ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .	02:33
arooni-mobile	oh suck; the gnome-3-staging thing looks nasty to remove now	02:33
raytion	1652~ so many people here.	02:35
arooni-mobile	drats : PPA to be removed: gnome3-team gnome3-staging / Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: gnome3-team gnome3-staging	02:37
arooni-mobile	so does that me i fubared my ubuntu install?	02:38
wileee	arooni-mobile, That ppa is a de upgrade of the gnome shell	02:39
arooni-mobile	i failed at life	02:39
wileee	unstable at that I believe	02:39
arooni-mobile	i didnt realize ppas were so nasty	02:40
arooni-mobile	i enabled it in software sources; ran a sudo apt-get update	02:41
arooni-mobile	and that doesnt seem to work	02:41
wileee	arooni-mobile, You have to know how to fix the issues they may make, none are really supported here, your on your own installing them.	02:42
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arooni-mobile	well i will be way more careful	02:42
arooni-mobile	yay fixed it! i'll be way more careful going forward of adding random ppas	02:44
wileee	arooni-mobile, Many are easy to deal with, however a full desktop upgrade is not a good idea, I have 8 or 10 I use always, simple small additions I can fix.	02:44
daftykins	sometimes it might be the only way to get something, but you have to bear in mind all must be removed before doing upgrades, for example	02:44
Bashing-om	arooni-mobile: Look on the bright side, breaking the system, you learn the system putting the pieces back together .	02:44
arooni-mobile	how is version 3.10 > 3.6? i would think that 3.6 > 3.10	02:44
daftykins	ten is greater than six	02:45
arooni-mobile	ahhh	02:45
arooni-mobile	i thought it was version 3.1.0	02:45
wileee	darn algebra	02:45
daftykins	i tripped up on that kinda thing just the other day, it can be confusing	02:45
daftykins	well there'd be a period there . if it were :)	02:45
arooni-mobile	well thats confusing. i think it should go 3.6,3.7,3.8,3.9.4.0	02:46
arooni-mobile	not a 3.10	02:46
daftykins	welcome to FOSS	02:46
arooni-mobile	well i have no idea why they ripped out the desktop background feature in gnome-terminal i liked it	02:46
arooni-mobile	i mean you can select an image for the background of your terminal. i like having an image of stars from the Hubble telescope	02:47
arooni-mobile	seems like a regression to me	02:47
raytion	black is good	02:47
arooni-mobile	wouldnt you rather see stars?	02:47
arooni-mobile	if youre using the terminal all day	02:47
daftykins	that's more a chat topic from both of you really - #ubuntu-offtopic :)	02:47
arooni-mobile	k. back to work; thanks folks	02:48
raytion	desktop background is stars	02:48
daftykins	raytion: either ask a support question or move on please.	02:49
arkore	can someone help me upgrade ubuntu 13.10? apt-get update is throwing a ton of 404s for saucy security updates and backports repositories	02:56
Flannel	arkore: That's because 13.10 is EOL, so the repositories have been archived and moved. Here's a link that'll tell you what you need to do to upgrade	02:56
Flannel	!eol \| arkore	02:56
ubottu	arkore: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	02:56
tats	Bashing-om, ok the install has completed.	02:56
raytion	change the sources.list	02:57
raytion	?	02:57
tats	Bashing-om, what to do to keep safe before the autoremove?	02:57
stevecam	hey, can anyone tell me how well vt-D support is working on the most recent version of ubuntu?	03:00
Bashing-om	tats: If it were me, I would p;ay with the system insure all my devices work and all my aps function . Then reboot and repeat that all works . Once back up get redirect the output of autoremove -s to a file .. inspect the file to see what it will remove .	03:03
Bashing-om	play*	03:03
arkore	thx Flannel.	03:05
arkore	i've chosen to not upgrade, and do fresh install instead. but, i dont know what safest way to do it without screwing up my dual boot setup.	03:05
wileee	arkore, What is the other install?	03:06
arkore	windows	03:06
wileee	arkore, Windows what and is it a UEFI?	03:07
arkore	windows 7 x64, and i dont think its UEFI. its grub menu?	03:08
wileee	arkore, Can you pastebin sudo parted -l	03:08
owenharlow	join	03:09
owenharlow	hey guys	03:09
owenharlow	sup	03:09
daftykins	!ot	03:09
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	03:09
daftykins	owenharlow: hi, please see above ^	03:09
owenharlow	Hi	03:09
arkore	wileee, http://pastebin.com/JY09wj0m	03:09
artemmikheev	join	03:09
tats	Bashing-om, will do.	03:09
artemmikheev	hi	03:10
owenharlow	sup artem	03:10
artemmikheev	bruh	03:10
artemmikheev	sup feg	03:10
arooni-mobile	has anyone got radiotray working on ubuntu 14.04? keep running into: lxml.etree.XMLSyntaxError: Start tag expected, '<' not found, line 1, column 1 ... when trying to install it; i tried from the official reps and ppas	03:10
wileee	arkore, You can just boot the live and choose the something else option 'manual install' and use the partition you have, the ext 4	03:11
arkore	wileee, i see. ok, thx. :)	03:12
wileee	arkore, mount is /	03:12
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wileee	arkore, I believe some just install over it, to save some settings, others here should confirm if this is wise, or a remake, of that partition in the gui is better	03:13
tats	Bashing-om, strangely enough thumbnails have disappeared from the dashboard for one thing	03:13
Bashing-om	tats: 'sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' package manager in a happy state ?	03:15
tats	Bashing-om, looks like it. it just says "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" with a list of packages	03:16
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Bashing-om	tats: K; I guess, bite on the bullet .. and reboot .	03:17
tats	Bashing-om, shutdown -r now	03:17
tats	Bashing-om, everything looks fine	03:20
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Bashing-om	tats: K' sudo apt-get -s autoremove > ~/checkit ' . See what all will be removed .	03:22
tats	Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/wwpV6Bby	03:23
Pinkamena_D	Looking to use an egpu, but support topics seem scarce, so I am guessing not much has been developed (understandably). Does anyoneknow a good location to kind of understand the way xorg works? I am a programmer but new to some X concepts.	03:24
daftykins	"egpu" ?	03:24
Bashing-om	tats: I see nothing that scares me . But looks like you will have to rebuild your development environment .	03:25
Pinkamena_D	graphics card on the peicx1 bus on a laptop.	03:25
tats	Bashing-om, that, i can deal with...	03:25
Bashing-om	tats: Pull the trigger .	03:25
Pinkamena_D	Currently, drivers are not the issue. I can always see the cards on lspci no matter the manufacturer. However the vard is not used.	03:27
Pinkamena_D	card*	03:27
daftykins	oh you mean an external card	03:27
Pinkamena_D	yes	03:27
daftykins	i think real world implementations of that are still very thin on the ground	03:28
daftykins	there was a Sony laptop a couple of years back with a proprietary (shock - Sony) interface, but essentially thunderbolt i think	03:28
Pinkamena_D	I think it should be possible to switch between cards. I can get one card working by installing drivers but this messes up the build in one.	03:29
Pinkamena_D	I just need to script something.	03:29
Pinkamena_D	usually I am pointed to manual modifications of xorg.conf	03:29
daftykins	i would think all you need to do is... yeah enter both PCI bus IDs and not use one	03:30
Pinkamena_D	I am just a noob at it, so I mess aroung adding stuff and usually just crash the desktop, which Is why I was looking for a good education example.	03:31
nimbiotics	I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. After accessing it via ssh with Putty I cannot login to its GUI anymore. After typing my user name . I enter my passwords, it clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!	03:31
tats	Bashing-om, all good	03:32
daftykins	did you SSH in with putty and try running something like 'startx' ? :)	03:32
tats	thanks again Bashing-om	03:32
nimbiotics	yes	03:32
daftykins	hehe, nailed it	03:32
nimbiotics	hehehe	03:32
nimbiotics	any way to fix this	03:32
daftykins	nimbiotics: SSH in and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ \| pastebinit" - if there's anything in your home dir that's sensitive, edit it before sharing the link	03:32
Bashing-om	tats: Outstanding. We do good work .	03:33
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nimbiotics	daftykins: working on it	03:34
tats	Bashing-om :)	03:35
nimbiotics	daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12068312/	03:36
daftykins	nimbiotics: yep some stuff is owned by root now, as your user (so username@hostname in PuTTY there) run "sudo chown -R nimbiotics: /home/nimbiotics/"	03:37
daftykins	now login should work	03:37
Bashing-om	tats: :)) yeah, going to go smoke on that good job completed, and call it a night .	03:37
nimbiotics	daftykins: thanks	03:37
daftykins	np	03:38
daftykins	nimbiotics: also as you learnt the hard way, you can't launch GUI programs from say, a Windows host - unless you use something like cygwin or Xming	03:38
nimbiotics	daftykins: understood, thank you very uch'	03:39
daftykins	:)	03:39
tats	Bashing-om, gonna drink to that. cheers.	03:40
Pinkamena_D	I am sad that I missed whatever this epic exchange was that you two had.	03:40
daftykins	you can always scroll up	03:40
Pinkamena_D	I joined like 15 mins ago.	03:40
Pinkamena_D	=P	03:40
daftykins	oh you mean the other two	03:40
tsimonq2	Hey, I was doing some research and I came across this Wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs. The release notes links are off, as 14.10 is now unsupported. I just want to continue with my research and I had my IRC client up, so I just wanted to tell someone else so they can fix it. Have a nice day! :)	03:42
OneM_Industries	daftykins: thank you. Thanks to your help, I know have a full backup of all my data in progress.	03:42
daftykins	yay \o/	03:43
OneM_Industries	And it is also acting as a disk exerciser.	03:43
somsip	!cookie \| daftykins	03:43
ubottu	daftykins: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!	03:43
OneM_Industries	Now if a drive fails, I will (hopefully) not loose anything.	03:43
daftykins	all these cookies are gonna get me fat	03:43
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OneM_Industries	I even have auto backup set for every night.	03:43
daftykins	remember a backup is only a backup if you test it and it works :D	03:44
OneM_Industries	Yep.	03:44
OneM_Industries	I remember the 3 backup commandments.	03:44
nimbiotics	daftykins: I could login, but I get some errors and Unity does not seem to be working properly. Any way to fix this?	03:44
daftykins	nimbiotics: i can't see the errors from here	03:45
daftykins	tsimonq2: it's a wiki page so you could edit yourself too :)	03:45
OneM_Industries	#1: users lie when they say they have a backup.	03:45
OneM_Industries	#2: backup to at least two locations.	03:45
OneM_Industries	#3: Test those backups.	03:45
maxlee	what is even	03:45
tsimonq2	daftykins: I am too lazy right now :P it is 10:45PM and I just want to read...poor excuse but I just wanted to delegate :P	03:46
daftykins	we mostly get help seekers after the event ;)	03:46
OneM_Industries	Yep.	03:46
maxlee	what is going on	03:46
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cfhowlett	and they want instant answers - HAH	03:46
maxlee	someone told me freenode is exploding	03:46
nimbiotics	daftykins: how can I see the messages?	03:46
cfhowlett	maxlee, this is ubuntu support. ask your ubuntu questions	03:46
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Pinkamena_D	lol	03:47
daftykins	nimbiotics: maybe log out and back in	03:47
maxlee	sorry	03:47
maxlee	wrong channel	03:47
jmadero	anyone use document viewer (pdf viewer)?	03:55
cfhowlett	jmadero, state the issue	03:55
jmadero	I get permission denied errors when I try to create a folder within the document viewer save as dialog	03:55
jmadero	I definitely have permissions - I can create folders no problem within nemo, nautilus, or even LibreOffice	03:56
cfhowlett	jmadero, who created the .pdf?	03:56
cfhowlett	you or someone else? cause it COULD be locked.	03:56
jmadero	cfhowlett: I can save the pdf fine	03:56
jmadero	it's only when I click on the "create folder" button that I get issues	03:56
nimbiotics	daftykins: I did have to log in and out acouple of times, Im not getting any error messages, but Unity is not behaving properly. Yet I can use my machine. I'll try to fix those things some other time THANK YOU VERY MUCH!	03:57
cfhowlett	jmadero, got it. just can't create a folder to put it in.	03:57
jmadero	exactly	03:57
cfhowlett	jmadero, don't know what to tell you other than WFM	03:57
jmadero	okay that's what I was hoping to get ;) just that it's my environment and not a bug	03:57
cfhowlett	jmadero, I'd suspect the environment.	03:57
jmadero	cfhowlett: weird thing is, happened for quite awhile, on several fresh installs	03:58
jmadero	only thing I keep is my home folder - so maybe the configuration folder....need to track it down	03:58
jmadero	oh - well that's interesting, I can create a folder within my home folder	03:58
jmadero	I just can't on my /data partition.....	03:58
daftykins	jmadero: ls -al /mount/point/you/can't/write/to/ \| pastebinit	03:59
daftykins	probably not owned by you?	03:59
jmadero	daftykins: looks like I own it: drwxrwxr-x 8 joel joel 4096 Jun 16 22:11 Joel_Documents	04:00
jmadero	says I own it	04:00
jmadero	if I didn't own it, you'd think nemo and LibreOffice would toss out errors as well	04:00
jmadero	I'll be back - need to go pick up my wife	04:01
bov	Are there any Ubuntu focused trouble shooting guides for when the colormgr cannot detect any devices?	04:06
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tsimonq2	It would be awesome if in the Ubuntu Fridge calendars, there was a calendar that had the Ubuntu Release Schedule put into it. Then I could get notifications from Google Calendar :P...can I make this happen or do I have to talk to someone?	04:13
jose	tsimonq2: I'm sorry about that, I must've missed on updating it. working on it now!	04:14
jose	(the word 'fridge' highlights me ;) )	04:14
tsimonq2	jose: For wily?	04:14
wileee	tsimonq2, Hmm, a change just for you when this info has a place?	04:14
jose	tsimonq2: yup!	04:14
jose	wileee: he is actually right. I'm a Fridge admin and I'm in charge of that calendar	04:14
jose	tsimonq2: would you please mind emailing me to jose@ubuntu.com so I don't miss it?	04:15
wileee	fine if you want to, just seems redundant, myself I never read it, I have maybe twice in 8 years	04:16
tsimonq2	jose I sent it	04:16
jose	tsimonq2: cool, thanks!	04:16
tsimonq2	wileee Well jeez, Google Calendar is a useful tool and it is not just for me, but it is for everyone else as well to enjoy. If the manager of the calendar is RIGHT HERE, then isn't it rude to say, "No, we don't need it"? http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct	04:18
tsimonq2	Just saying :P	04:19
wileee	thanks, needed a reason to practice eye rolling. ;)	04:19
jose	hehe, it's fine	04:19
jose	doesn't take much time so I'll tkae care of it today or tomorrow :)	04:19
jose	tsimonq2, wileee: hope you both have a great day!	04:20
tsimonq2	wileee: RUDE http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct	04:21
Maybejojo_	jose: can I get the Fridge releases emailed to me?	04:21
wileee	your harrasing me whom is rude	04:21
* cfhowlett closes the microwave door and sets the timer to "popcorn"		04:22
jose	Maybejojo_: unfortunately there's no way to get emailed. however, you can add the calendar to yours!	04:22
wileee	already in ignore, all done	04:22
Maybejojo_	jose: Yes thank you!	04:23
tsimonq2	Maybejojo_: jose Yes you can! Add it to your Google Calendar, then edit notifications and get notified :P	04:23
tac	Does anyone know what to do to get Google Chrome to shut down proplery when you shutdown?	04:23
cfhowlett	tac, wrong channel. ask chrome	04:23
tsimonq2	tac Close the window before you shut down...	04:23
tac	My google-fu has only led me to non-solutions and solutions that don't actually work	04:23
tac	tsimonq2: That's not really a solution	04:24
tsimonq2	tac Try it	04:24
somsip	tac: you mean when you restart it is says it's not been closed down properly?	04:24
tac	somsip: yes. It looks like the OS kills the process not-so-gracefully when you issue a shutdown from Unity	04:25
somsip	tac: prolly receiving a signal from the DE that it considers to be a dirty close. Check for bugs on upstream Chromium I would think	04:25
cfhowlett	tac, sorry, bad advice. I brain farted and thought you meant Chrome OS	04:26
tac	And is there a distinction between Chrome and Chromium? Just judging by the name and icons, it makes me think it's a fork or a Ubutnu-specific (Linux-specific?) variant?	04:26
wileee	open source specific	04:27
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somsip	tac: chromium is FOSS (AIUI) and chrome is google's branded fork	04:27
tac	Gotcha	04:27
LambdaComplex	tac: Although Chromium still has a ton of references to google ip addresses in its code	04:30
somsip	tac: solution for v39 but looks like its v44 now http://superuser.com/questions/873381/how-can-i-disable-the-chromium-didn-t-shut-down-correctly-message-when-my-brow	04:31
tac	This looks like it just forces Chromium to never report it having crashed.	04:35
tac	hmm	04:36
tac	I'll have to keep looking. Thanks for the help though.	04:36
somsip	tac: yep - unless code has changed since then it looks like it's very tight on what it considers to be a dirty close. Which makes sense, but might not be what every user wants	04:38
tac	It looks like one of the solutions I saw might do the trick, now that I realize the executable is named chromium-browser, not chrome	04:41
tac	which is to edit /etc/init/lightdm.conf	04:41
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tac	I'm guessing that's just a place to put scripts that get run when interesting stuff happens to Unity?	04:41
tac	or not, gdi	04:45
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emmanuel_erc	hello there everyone!	04:59
tac	sweet. I think I resolved it	04:59
emmanuel_erc	I am trying to do some data recovery and I am unsure if I was able to recover anything at all. Can I ask you guys some questions?	05:00
cfhowlett	!recovery \| Emmanuel_Chanel	05:00
ubottu	Emmanuel_Chanel: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode	05:00
cfhowlett	emmanuel_erc, see above	05:01
emmanuel_erc	Oh, well I clone the affected partition onto another drive to try and restore the data.	05:03
emmanuel_erc	but I guess I could try that.	05:03
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mieayam	!ubuntu	05:34
ubottu	Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	05:34
fcuk	Fcuku	05:37
Sorch	...	05:38
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selalun	I used to not have a life, and then I found Ubuntu.	05:49
Sorch	So, what does that mean?	05:50
wileee	#ubuntu-confessions	05:50
selalun	there are three aspects to it	05:50
selalun	first there is se la lou	05:50
cfhowlett	selalun, not here: #ubuntu-offtopic	05:50
selalun	How do I secure my computer?	05:51
Ad1_RN	selalun: in linux operating systems you are safe ;]	05:51
Ad1_RN	you can configure your firewall anyway	05:52
cfhowlett	selalun, absolute security = no internet and NO ONE expect you ever has access to your computer	05:52
Ad1_RN	selalun: read about iptables ;)	05:53
selalun	Photons are captured around my proximity.	05:53
cfhowlett	selalun, that has nothing to do with this channel. please stay on topic.	05:54
selalun	Does my hardware have to be secure?	05:54
hhh	Yup, you should have your keyboard and mouse locked tightly	05:54
hhh	And keep away of your computer	05:55
hhh	Or just stay away from this channel	05:55
Ad1_RN	hhh: ++	05:56
selalun	I'm sure there is overlap in engineering, with professions of Ubuntu programmers and things electrical, right?	05:56
selalun	clever increment	05:58
selalun	semantics	05:58
rodney77	hello, I'm trying to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10 on a beaglebone. it used ports.ubuntu.com but this version is at end-of-life and repos don't work anymore	05:58
cfhowlett	rodney77, BOTH are end of life.	05:58
Ad1_RN	selalun: yeah, turn off your computer, else the NSA will hack your motherboard xd	05:58
selalun	Too late for that	05:58
rodney77	cfhowlett, I know, but I'm trying to piggy back off 13.10 to get me up to 14.04	05:59
rodney77	my understanding is that I can't upgrade straight to 14.04	05:59
bazhang	take the chit chat elsewhere selalun	05:59
cfhowlett	rodney77, why not just install 14.04 directly? (never used beaglebone)	05:59
cfhowlett	!eolupgrade \| rodney77 this is the EOLUpgrade path	06:00
ubottu	rodney77 this is the EOLUpgrade path: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	06:00
Ad1_RN	selalun: they are hacking by electrical wiring	06:00
bazhang	cut it out Ad1_RN	06:00
atralheaven_	I've never upgraded! I always install fresh, with a separate home partition settings of programs will be kept	06:01
rodney77	thanks cfhowlett. in these instructions, it says to use these repos in sources.list: old-releases.ubuntu.com rather than archive.ubuntu.com	06:01
cfhowlett	rodney77, that is correct.	06:01
atralheaven_	Hi guys, I'm looking for an IRC channel that I can ask my questions about bash scripting, do anyone know any channel?	06:02
Ad1_RN	atralheaven_: #bash	06:02
cfhowlett	!bash \| atralheaven_ strangely enough ...	06:02
ubottu	atralheaven_ strangely enough ...: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	06:02
cfhowlett	#bash	06:02
rodney77	however, my beaglebone uses ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ [version] main universe multiverse	06:02
bazhang	#bash atralheaven_	06:02
cfhowlett	rodney77, can that not be changed??	06:02
atralheaven_	Thank you!	06:02
rodney77	well it can, cfhowlett, but I'm assuming ports is something very specific	06:02
rodney77	like it's ubuntu, ported to rasberry pi, or beaglebone, etc	06:03
rodney77	I don't know for sure, but my question is whether I can change this to old-releases without it breaking my installation	06:03
cfhowlett	rodney77, suggestion: backup your current /etc/apt/sources.list edit the new list per the eoupgrade wiki and test. if it fails, restore your backup sources.list	06:03
cfhowlett	rodney77, also: you should probably seek support from beaglebone community?	06:04
rodney77	ok thanks, cfhowlett. I guess my fear was that it would actually break my installation, but I'll give it a try	06:04
rodney77	thanks, I'll also ask the beaglebone community	06:04
atralheaven_	I have a problem with my laptop brightness control, it doesn't change anything, and brightness is a little lower than maximum, I've solved it before by adding something to grub config file, but now its broken again and I can't find that line anymore, maybe grub has been updated and it has changed. so what can I do to solve that?	06:05
sky__	hi	06:06
atralheaven_	I think it was this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" acpi_backlight=vendor	06:06
ubuntu	hi	06:07
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Guest61104	hello	06:07
Guest61104	sup	06:08
sky__	hello world	06:08
Guest61104	hi	06:08
cfhowlett	Guest61104, this is ubuntu support. your question is ???	06:08
wileee	atralheaven_, Did you do a release upgrade around this failure time?	06:08
hhh	Asl pls	06:08
atralheaven_	no	06:08
Guest61104	Fuck U HHH	06:08
cfhowlett	!ops \| Guest61104	06:08
ubottu	Guest61104: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang	06:08
Flannel	Guest61104: Please mind your language in here, thanks.	06:09
wileee	one way to test a live	06:09
Flannel	cfhowlett: Please be a little more forgiving with new folks. Thanks.	06:10
Guest61104	no	06:10
Guest61104	no	06:10
hhh	Guest61104: ure welcome. And fuck you too	06:10
cfhowlett	Flannel, insults + profanity? how much more patient would you suggest?	06:10
cfhowlett	nevermind.	06:11
wileee	atralheaven_, You have the correct line to modify the kernel, needs a update grub if that is the change and a reboot.	06:11
Flannel	cfhowlett: I was speaking about before the insults and profanity. Not the ops call.	06:11
cfhowlett	Flannel, OK	06:11
atralheaven_	the problem is that grub config file doesn't have this line anymore! it was for the past, and it worked that time	06:12
wileee	atralheaven_, Ah, modify it from here gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub	06:12
daftykins	atralheaven_: check the command still works by appending it to your kernel parameters for a one-time boot, hold left shift before the disk is about to read and add the parameter once.	06:12
daftykins	if it works, then you can edit the file as wileee says above ^	06:13
wileee	+1 one time boot	06:13
daftykins	wileee: ^5 :D	06:13
Sick_Lad	hi	06:13
wileee	better to be sure	06:13
atralheaven_	you mean grub command line?	06:14
Sick_Lad	hi	06:14
Sick_Lad	hi	06:14
Sick_Lad	hi	06:14
Sick_Lad	hi	06:14
Sick_Lad	hi	06:14
Sick_Lad	hi	06:14
daftykins	atralheaven_: not quite, the grub menu.	06:14
cfhowlett	Sick_Lad, greetings. what's is your ubuntu support question	06:14
daftykins	Flannel: got another about to be re-enabled ^	06:15
daftykins	ah ty	06:15
atralheaven_	I will try and come back, thanks!	06:15
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BeerLover	Hey guys, I installed python 2.7.10 from a ppa and it works.... the only thing is now idle-python2.7 is not getting installed	06:23
BeerLover	it gives the following error: ImportError: No module named _struct	06:24
BeerLover	can't install it	06:24
daftykins	contact your PPA maintainer.	06:24
atralheaven_	im back, it worked! I will add acpi_backlight=vendor to grub conf file to keep that change every time I boot	06:25
daftykins	atralheaven_: yay	06:25
BeerLover	its this ppa: ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes	06:27
daftykins	yeah, PPAs aren't supported i'm afraid - so if you use one, you get support from its' maintainer now.	06:28
wafflejock	BeerLover: any reason you need that particular version? I have 2.7.6 with no PPA on 14.04	06:29
BeerLover	mostly security	06:31
BeerLover	have a project which needs python 2.7.9	06:31
BeerLover	but i upgraded it to 2.7.10	06:31
BeerLover	wafflejock, any remedy?	06:32
wafflejock	BeerLover: nope just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to hard :)	06:33
wafflejock	BeerLover: you'll have to reach out to the package maintainer or build from source I think	06:33
BeerLover	i tried building from source first	06:33
BeerLover	but it wasn't installing	06:33
BeerLover	so i used ppa	06:33
daftykins	so - contact the maintainer	06:33
wafflejock	BeerLover: you can get the build options that were used to build the latest version on Ubuntu that might be helpful so you know what flags were used, but otherwise as daftykins said	06:34
BeerLover	useless OS this ubuntu	06:34
BeerLover	still using 2.7.6	06:34
daftykins	what version are you using?	06:34
BeerLover	they should've provided the update	06:34
BeerLover	14.04.2	06:35
daftykins	right, so that's not even up to date.	06:35
BeerLover	daftykins, why?	06:35
cfhowlett	BeerLover, eh? current = 14.04.3 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	06:35
wafflejock	BeerLover: 2.7.9 is in vivid http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/python	06:35
daftykins	BeerLover: typical attitude of someone not getting their way, blame the OS :)	06:35
wafflejock	that is a silly reaction really	06:35
BeerLover	sorry	06:35
BeerLover	i have 14.04.3	06:35
BeerLover	no upgrades available	06:35
wafflejock	BeerLover: if it's essential to have 2.7.9 you can upgrade to 15.04 but it's not an LTS release so you'll need to upgrade that till we get to 16.04 as newer versions are released (16.04 will be another LTS, 2016 April)	06:38
UserUser	this is a stupid question but is there anyway to remove the amazon services from ubuntu?	06:39
daftykins	yes, roughly a billion guides all over the internet	06:40
UserUser	=P	06:40
bazhang	!adlens	06:40
ubottu	To hide online search results in Ubuntu Unity, go to System Settings > Security and Privacy > Search and toggle the option off.	06:40
UserUser	any good hardening guide you could suggest?	06:40
bazhang	!apparmor \| UserUser	06:40
ubottu	UserUser: For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor	06:40
wafflejock	UserUser: not a guide but lynis a nice tool to give you some info on what to fix	06:40
UserUser	and no, I have that set but still when running wireshark I see it outbound to a amazon server	06:41
bazhang	UserUser, check out selinux as well	06:41
UserUser	I kind of want to stick to ubuntu	06:41
daftykins	selinux is a component not a distro...	06:41
UserUser	sorry, im really new	06:41
bazhang	UserUser, selinux is used With ubuntu	06:41
bazhang	UserUser, apparmor and selinux are two things to get started on	06:42
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BeerLover	wafflejock, how can i upgrade from 14.04 lts to 15.04 without loosing anything?	06:42
UserUser	ok, writing that down right now. anything else to read up on?	06:42
bazhang	UserUser, those will take a bit of time to read up on first	06:43
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wafflejock	BeerLover: make a backup :) really though you can upgrade you just need to go into the software sources and enable upgrading to non lts... one sec I'm not using unity need to look it up	06:43
daftykins	UserUser: how to search for lens packages which provide search results, e.g. "apt-cache search lens" and then how to manipulate those packages to perhaps remove your paranoia with regard to playing with wireshark	06:44
wafflejock	BeerLover: see upgrade policy here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades	06:44
wafflejock	BeerLover: it should basically be in the updater in a tab that you can enable upgrading for normal releases not just LTS	06:44
dan2wik	I just set up a brand new server and install apache2 from apt-get and immediately got this error. I don't know how to fix it. http://apaste.info/DQo	06:45
daftykins	dan2wik: that's not likely, the configs ship fine out of the box. so look at line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf as it says for an error...	06:45
m0r0n	Hello. My laptop is having an issue where when I open from suspend, the welcome screen loads. If I log into a previous session the screen goes black. If I login to a guest session everything is fine. I'm using an nvidia card using ppa drivers and I'm in Xubuntu 14.04	06:47
daftykins	but only from suspend? all cold boots and logins are fine?	06:48
m0r0n	Yup	06:48
daftykins	which PPA? xorg-edgers?	06:48
m0r0n	One second. I'll look it up	06:49
dan2wik	daftykins: it looks like standard config	06:50
daftykins	dan2wik: dpkg -l \| grep nvidia	06:50
daftykins	see what version you're using, nvidia-###	06:50
dan2wik	wrong person	06:50
daftykins	oh yeah	06:50
daftykins	8am and no sleep does that to a person	06:50
m0r0n	daftykins, I have both edgers and swat	06:51
dan2wik	daftykins: I feel like it might be an environment issue	06:51
daftykins	dan2wik: well your errors are pretty obvious, so either you have no experience with apache or you need to do some reading - or both :)	06:51
daftykins	environment? how?	06:51
dan2wik	it looks like the config is referencing something outside the config.	06:51
daftykins	m0r0n: ugh. well that's an immensely bad move in the first instance. what's your hardware? optimus laptop?	06:51
dan2wik	the error is gone now :\	06:52
m0r0n	daftykins, Quadro NVS3100M	06:52
daftykins	oy, so not even a standard card	06:53
daftykins	m0r0n: purge your drivers, purge your PPAs and get back to stock. then install one of the nvidia drivers on there, such as nvidia-346	06:54
daftykins	but check 'lspci' for whether this is an intel+nvidia hybrid setup	06:54
m0r0n	Okay I'll try. I have two laptops running so I'll let you know if I run into any hiccups	06:55
daftykins	i'm assuming you're on 14.04+	06:55
dan2wik	daftykins: turns out I was talking to apache wrong.	06:55
daftykins	dan2wik: how-so? you said it was the default config	06:56
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daftykins	so you'd barely met apache!	06:56
x4w3	Good morning.	06:56
dan2wik	daftykins: I was using "sudo apache2 restart" instead of "sudo service apache2 restart"	06:56
daftykins	ah har	06:56
dan2wik	Now to start my adventures in apache2	06:58
daftykins	one of its' other faves is having an FQDN configured	06:58
atralheaven_	Is there any way to set backspace key behavior in file manager to act like windows file manager? and I think it should be set as default, I have a reason for it, when a user goes to a directory, lets say ~/Pictures and then goes to a subdirectory of it, like ~/Pictures/Wallpapers, and then wants to come back to Pictures folder, backspace does it, and also when a user goes to completely different directory, and wants to comeback where he was before	07:02
idle48182	what is the difference between window managers?	07:03
somsip	idle48182: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers	07:04
UserUser	so have another question, on 12.04 I am useing system monitor and looking at my file system. It shows that I have 150gb free but only 132gb available.	07:05
UserUser	is there a reason why I have more free disk space vs what I can use?	07:06
m0r0n	daftykins, From what I can tell there's only one GPU, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069192/	07:09
m0r0n	How can I confirm I purged everything and I'm back to default?	07:09
dan2wik	UserUser: some of that free space is used for filesystem things like where files are located and their names.	07:11
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circus	unity sucks	07:17
FATZOMBI	wot?	07:17
circus	unity desktop is so sloowww	07:17
FATZOMBI	works grt 4 me	07:18
FATZOMBI	hi	07:22
somsip	FATZOMBI: do you have a support question?	07:22
m0r0n	To " install one of the nvidia drivers on there, such as nvidia-346" does using the Additional Drivers tab in Software & Updates work?	07:27
daftykins	m0r0n: ideally i'd like to see an "lspci" first on a http://paste.ubuntu.com	07:27
m0r0n	daftykins, From what I can tell there's only one GPU, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069192/	07:27
bazhang	m0r0n, did you ppa-purge the multiple PPA drivers for that single card	07:28
daftykins	m0r0n: yep looks clean, worth double checking what bazhang just asked though	07:28
m0r0n	bazhang, I removed them using the Software & Updates>Other Software (Remove button)	07:28
bazhang	!ppa-purge \| m0r0n	07:29
ubottu	m0r0n: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html	07:29
daftykins	m0r0n: dpkg -l \| grep nvidia	07:29
m0r0n	daftykins, It's empty	07:30
daftykins	hmm, might be ok then - run a "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache policy nvidia-346" and ensure it's coming from the ubuntu repos	07:30
m0r0n	daftykins, Under additional drivers 340.76 is the latest and when I run that command using 340.76 it says it's coming from the ca.archives.ubuntu.xxxxxx	07:33
ObrienDave	canadian archive	07:33
m0r0n	Yup	07:33
daftykins	ok that'll do	07:34
m0r0n	Restarting and checking if the problem persists	07:35
m0r0n	Yup, still an issue	07:37
vinnyx	hi	07:37
daftykins	m0r0n: which ubuntu version again?	07:37
m0r0n	Xubuntu 14.04	07:38
m0r0n	Specifically 14.04.3 LTS	07:39
daftykins	hmm, odd you see no 346	07:39
daftykins	wonder if it's your odd card	07:39
daftykins	tried nouveau?	07:39
m0r0n	Yup. I tried all 5 options, same issue	07:39
m0r0n	My laptop with the same distro, NVS 5400M, is running 352.30 without a snag	07:41
m0r0n	The NVS 3100M is giving me problems	07:41
daftykins	guess it's a problem card	07:41
daftykins	does xfce even use lightdm o0	07:42
m0r0n	I believe so	07:42
m0r0n	Last time I used "startx" and told #Xubuntu the facepalmed and told me to use lightdm	07:43
daftykins	yeah, don't use startx ever :>	07:43
m0r0n	See the odd thing is, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/10de%3A0a6c/ , says it should be fine	07:44
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daftykins	i don't believe in any of that	07:45
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poutine	Thanks Obama	07:47
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=== Mathisen_ is now known as Mathisen
dupingping	https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GNU_002fLinux.html	07:49
dupingping	It shows me, With linux GRUB uses 32-bit protocol. Some BIOS services like APM or EDD aren’t available with this protocol. In this case you need to use linux16	07:49
dupingping	why linux command does not support EDD?	07:49
daftykins	that'd be a good question for ##linux if it affects the kernel as a whole	07:50
zanzibizarre	Well if it isn't bazhang	07:51
zanzibizarre	Looky looky looky	07:51
Flannel	zanzibizarre: Please help keep this channel on-topic. Thanks.	07:52
zanzibizarre	:-P	07:52
h80s	hi bazhang <3	07:54
zanzibizarre	:)	07:54
h80s	I just joined Ubunut, and I would like to install something. I want to surf the web and want to install firefox. How do I do that?	07:57
OerHeks	h80s, by not trolling :-D	07:58
zanzibizarre	Legit question	07:58
* badbodh slaps zanzibizarre h80s		07:58
badbodh	shoo	07:58
h80s	I don't get it. I don't know how to install firefox.	07:58
somsip	h80s: sudo apt-get install firefox	07:58
h80s	Do you do sudo pacman -S firefox?	07:58
somsip	h80s: that's for Arch.	07:58
OerHeks	...	07:58
h80s	oh. thanks.	07:58
h80s	oh ok	07:58
zanzibizarre	Bodh, why must u hurt me	07:59
* badbodh slaps h82or8 with bigger trout		07:59
* zanzibizarre dances		07:59
somsip	!ops \| silliness	07:59
ubottu	silliness: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang	07:59
ikonia	blacknred0: don't need that sort of thing please	07:59
somsip	ikonia: k	07:59
ikonia	somsip: not you	07:59
somsip	ikonia: I know - just ack'ing you were here	07:59
ikonia	ahh	07:59
holler_	hello, I am using docker and I did "apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install -y python-psycopg2"	08:00
h80s	I did sudo apt-get install firefox, but it says says that it is already installed. How can I run it after that?	08:00
holler_	however it says it cant find a package candidate	08:00
somsip	!find psycop	08:00
ubottu	Found: python-psycopg2, python-psycopg2-dbg, python-psycopg2-doc, python3-psycopg2, python3-psycopg2-dbg	08:00
holler_	is using apt-get clean somehow affecting my later apt-get install?	08:01
somsip	holler_: check the sources on the docker image maybe?	08:01
holler_	somsip: http://dpaste.com/0VSF91A	08:02
somsip	holler_: python 3.4 probably needs python3-psycopg2	08:02
somsip	holler_: not that it should really matter for apt-get but...	08:03
holler_	true	08:03
m0r0n	How can I search up what process turned lightdm off? I have an issue where users who are logged in (have a session) get a black screen after returning from a suspend. The login greeting page still comes up fine though	08:05
phpcoder	hello everybody i have a strange problem with my 15.04 ubuntu	08:06
zanzibizarre	phpcoder, cool name	08:06
daftykins	m0r0n: the greeter is still the lightdm session	08:06
phpcoder	sometime it lost my preferences for keyboards ....	08:06
phpcoder	*keyboard	08:06
phpcoder	i must do sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration	08:06
phpcoder	(use the default) and it works again	08:06
phpcoder	whY?!	08:06
FATZOMBI	whats the commandline for upgrading 14.04 to 14.10	08:06
phpcoder	zanzibizarre, :D	08:06
m0r0n	daftykins, Arghhhhhh. This is bugging me. It doesn't sound like a driver issue but something that Ubuntu is doing	08:06
zanzibizarre	phpcoders, first question from me is going to be. do you use vagrant?	08:07
somsip	FATZOMBI: 14.10 is no longer supported	08:07
daftykins	m0r0n: out of interest, create a new user - then repeat the test with it?	08:07
FATZOMBI	so how i am going to be upgraded to 15	08:07
FATZOMBI	?	08:07
m0r0n	I'll try that. Also when I boot it goes to tty1 for about 2-3s then goes to tty7(with gui) not sure why	08:08
phpcoder	zanzibizarre, yes previously but not at the moment	08:08
daftykins	FATZOMBI: still do-able, but you'll have to go to 14.10 using old-releases	08:08
badbodh	FATZOMBI, apt-get dist-upgrade	08:08
phpcoder	but i still have it installed	08:08
somsip	FATZOMBI: upgrading from LTS to non-LTS might not be a good idea.	08:08
daftykins	m0r0n: just slow	08:08
FATZOMBI	hmm	08:08
h80s	so, after I mount my windows partition with sudo ntfs-3g, what is the compatibility between files since there are different line endings and what now?	08:08
badbodh	does 14.10 server work anymore ? if not FATZOMBI will need a fresh install	08:08
FATZOMBI	okay	08:09
FATZOMBI	ty	08:09
somsip	!14.10 \| badbodh	08:09
ubottu	badbodh: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic	08:09
m0r0n	daftykins, same thing	08:10
h80s	does cowsay come pre-installed with ubnutu?	08:10
daftykins	m0r0n: what about if you now switch to TTY1 then back to 7?	08:10
zanzibizarre	Mounting partitions, you animal you!	08:10
h80s	cowsay "people don't like to answer my questions"	08:11
zanzibizarre	That's because they're so damn complex	08:11
h80s	wat? lol	08:11
m0r0n	daftykins, no dice	08:12
jordie	这里有说中文的吗？	08:12
somsip	!zh \| jordie	08:13
ubottu	jordie: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw	08:13
daftykins	well that's me out of ideas	08:13
terminal_echo	hey, can we please not kick people for nothing	08:13
terminal_echo	it makes us fucking ignorant fucks	08:13
terminal_echo	thanks	08:13
cfhowlett	!ops \| terminal_echo profanity & trolling	08:14
ubottu	terminal_echo profanity & trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang	08:14
badbodh	daftykins, what's in your soup ?	08:14
Messi	hey, can we please not kick people for nothing? It makes us fucking ignorant fucks. Thanks.	08:16
m0r0n	The worst part about this is the laptop with issues is my dads. I'm trying to push Linux on people, but he won't want to deal with having to log off on a laptop before a suspend	08:16
zanzibizarre	lol wtf	08:16
zanzibizarre	<3	08:16
cfhowlett	!ops \| messi _echo profanity & trolling IP ban requested	08:16
ubottu	messi _echo profanity & trolling IP ban requested: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang	08:16
daftykins	m0r0n: this is why we don't push things on others	08:17
daftykins	m0r0n: any BIOS updates available? that's all i've got.	08:17
m0r0n	ummm maybe. I'll take a look	08:17
Zombyrad	m0r0n, as I understand it, after waking from suspend, the screen stays blank?	08:17
badbodh	m0r0n, daftykins what's your story love ?	08:18
daftykins	badbodh: ask a support question or leave.	08:18
badbodh	some g-cards don't play well with suspend	08:18
Zombyrad	badbodh, my thoughts too	08:18
m0r0n	No I get the greeting, if I login to a user who has a session running the screen goes blank. However if it's a fresh session it will go in normally	08:18
h80s_	Can we please stop kicking people for nothing? It makes us fucking ignorant fucks. Thanks	08:19
Zombyrad	m0r0n, that's a curious one. Might be a lightdm and/or DE session bug	08:19
m0r0n	BIOS is up-to-date	08:20
badbodh	m0r0n, have you checked dmesg ?	08:20
badbodh	run "dmesg\|pastebinit" in terminal. share link.	08:21
m0r0n	badbodh, not yet. What should I be looking for?	08:21
uh80s	what's this I hear. You guys going bananas?	08:21
m0r0n	Zombyrad, What's DE stand for?	08:22
m0r0n	What does*	08:22
daftykins	desktop environment	08:22
badbodh	m0r0n, just run the command, it will produce a pastebin link. share that link here, others will take a look	08:22
daftykins	i.e. xfce, KDE, unity...	08:22
Zombyrad	If you're running default ubuntu, it should be unity	08:23
m0r0n	Should I run it in TTy1 after the 'bug' occurs or will a fresh boot be fine	08:23
daftykins	has to be once it happened	08:23
daftykins	immediately	08:23
m0r0n	Here she is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069502/	08:24
daftykins	no clues to my eyes	08:26
m0r0n	Maybe I should install Ubuntu and see if that changes anything	08:27
badbodh	m0r0n, is your problem reproducible? suspend-resume fails everytime ?	08:27
Zombyrad	m0r0n, is the session still blanked? Could you switch to TTY1 and issue a 'killall gnome-screensaver' and see if that fixes the blank screen on tty7?	08:28
m0r0n	badbodh, suspend-resume-login(previously logged in) --- 3rd step is where it fails	08:28
Zombyrad	Might be gnome-screensaver not clearing properly after session resume	08:28
m0r0n	and yes it's reproducible	08:28
daftykins	does xfce use gnome-screensaver o0	08:28
badbodh	m0r0n, so you do get a screen after resume ? that's one good news	08:28
Zombyrad	Ah. it's xfce, figured regular ubuntu	08:29
m0r0n	I get the greeting when I open my lid, enter my password, then it blanks	08:29
m0r0n	Zombyrad, I'll try that now	08:29
badbodh	i agree with zomby here. if you got any screensavers, disable/uninstall them. that'll clear the playing field a bit.	08:29
cfhowlett	daftykins xfce does NOT use gnome screensaver	08:29
daftykins	cfhowlett: ah, that was my guess	08:30
daftykins	ty	08:30
badbodh	got xscreensavers ?	08:30
cfhowlett	in fact, the "default", xscreensaver, is known to conflict with lightlocker/lightdm and is recommended for deletion.	08:30
Zombyrad	m0r0n, are you running regular ubuntu or xubuntu? we're a bit unclear on what desktop environment you're using	08:30
badbodh	<m0r0n> Xubuntu 14.04 <- Zombyrad	08:31
SpaghettiCat	Hello, dose anybody know why all Ubuntu releases have a minor version of either ".04" or ".10"?	08:31
daftykins	no we're not, it's above :P	08:31
Zombyrad	Ah, missed that	08:31
daftykins	SpaghettiCat: the month they release in	08:31
daftykins	April and October is when new things cometh - year.month = release	08:31
SpaghettiCat	Ah nice, so they keep a really tight schedule then	08:31
daftykins	yep	08:31
badbodh	[13:50] <daftykins> badbodh: ask a support question or leave. <~ not everyone is here to 'ask' support questions. some of us join late, it's convenient if you repeat your story in short. like what's the issue, ubuntu version and what have you tried.	08:32
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daftykins	had a feeling the advice was pretty poor.	08:33
badbodh	ikonia, [14:05] * You have left channel #ubuntu (requested by ikonia (bye cholby)) ?? i don't get it.	08:34
Kali_Yuga	hello ubuntu guys is there a way to replace the "phonon-backend-gstreamer" with the "phonon-backend-vlc" in 14.04	08:34
ikonia	badbodh: typo, my fault, sorry	08:35
ikonia	badbodh: you got back before I managed to pm you - osrry	08:35
badbodh	grrr	08:35
ikonia	sorry	08:35
Kali_Yuga	cuz in some players my video is blue?	08:35
shingshang	anybody know if I can get a bootable ubuntu 15.04 USB image?	08:35
shingshang	i.e just copy files to the USB and boot 15.04 from it	08:35
cfhowlett	!kali \| Kali_Yuga,	08:35
ubottu	Kali_Yuga,: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)	08:35
somsip	!persistent \| shingshang	08:36
ubottu	shingshang: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	08:36
badbodh	Kali_Yuga, phonon just gives you audio.	08:36
daftykins	shingshang: you never copy files, you download the ISO then transfer the image to the flash drive.	08:36
Kali_Yuga	I have ubuntu	08:36
Kali_Yuga	well k ubuntu	08:36
daftykins	well i suppose you could copy if you're doing an EFI boot.	08:36
cfhowlett	kala, kali is not ubuntu and is not supported here.	08:36
zanzibizarre	hi	08:36
shingshang	daftykins, I see, so transfer the ISO image huh	08:36
shingshang	but that's the info what I need, thanks	08:37
Kali_Yuga	Kubuntu!! not Kali!	08:37
daftykins	shingshang: what's your host OS?	08:37
badbodh	Kali_Yuga, phonon just gives you audio. if you got sound issues, changing honon backend makes sense.	08:37
Kali_Yuga	I was reading something different???	08:37
shingshang	daftykins, ubuntu 14.04	08:37
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: blue video, do you happen to use an nvidia card?	08:37
badbodh	your video problem is likely graphics problem.	08:37
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: with the proprietary driver?	08:37
daftykins	shingshang: ok so you download the 15.04 ISO then you can use 'dd' in the terminal to throw the ISO on the drive	08:38
ObrienDave	or unetbootin, yumi, pendrivelinux	08:38
m0r0n	News! News! I have Light Locker (A screen saver type thing. Locks when the lid is closed). After disabling it, the laptop opens straight to where it was left off (no greeting). Everything is good there. Now I'll mess around with light lockers settings	08:38
Kali_Yuga	yes I have the nvidia driver installed	08:38
shingshang	daftykins, would the full instructions be somewhere in that LiveUsbPendrivePersistent wiki page?	08:38
daftykins	m0r0n: :)	08:38
Zombyrad	m0r0n, nice	08:38
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: open nvidia-settings, there is a setting for (x)video colour correction	08:38
daftykins	shingshang: don't know, that's to achieve something else.	08:38
Kali_Yuga	proprietary driver yes! it doesn't happen on vlc though!	08:39
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: I don't have an nvidia machine at paw, but I know this problem. Hitting the "reset hardware defaults" button there should help	08:39
Fuchs	Yes, because it only happens to players that use a specific video output method. VLC, per default, uses something else	08:39
Kali_Yuga	well i need the graphic driver for games you know...	08:39
Fuchs	Yes, and I didn't say you should not use it	08:39
Fuchs	please read what I say and do what I say. Unless you prefer to chat around instead of solving your problem. Fine with me, after all I am not the one having problems	08:40
Kali_Yuga	dont work very good on the out of the box driver ... forgot the name	08:40
m0r0n	So light-locker is the issue. Now I'll have to find that programs bugs or just find a new way to lock on suspend	08:40
Kali_Yuga	ok I look there	08:40
Zombyrad	you can remove light-locker and replace with gnome-screensaver (but that might pull in some gnome dependencies, anyone knows?)	08:41
daftykins	Zombyrad: bad move.	08:41
m0r0n	It looks like this is a common issue, their fix didn't work though. See http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/	08:41
Zombyrad	yeah, figured, but xscreensaver is even worse :P	08:41
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Zombyrad	m0r0n, was browsing that bug report too	08:42
daftykins	using a screensaver at all...	08:42
Zombyrad	*I was	08:42
Kali_Yuga	I don't see coulour correction :(((	08:42
Zombyrad	i'ts not for screensaver, it's for the lock on suspend, for security	08:42
Kali_Yuga	colour*	08:42
badbodh	m0r0n, remove light locker as zomby suggested. no harm in trying xscreensaver once. it ain't pretty, but lock works.	08:44
Zombyrad	daftykins, and what's wrong with a screensaver? I know it's kind of redundant for today's screens, but if it just blanks or turns off the screen, there's no issue afaik?	08:44
badbodh	if it doesn';t work, you can always hatefully purge it.	08:44
arek	welcome	08:44
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daftykins	screensavers have been stupid since their inception	08:44
daftykins	my favourite has always been the display power button	08:45
DalekSec	!info xscreensaver-bsod	08:45
ubottu	Package xscreensaver-bsod does not exist in vivid	08:45
Zombyrad	they were necessary for old CRT screens though, unless you turn it off every time :P	08:45
badbodh	bsod is probably included in default set	08:45
daftykins	yes, thus not necessary	08:46
daftykins	power button = screensaver :)	08:46
DalekSec	!info xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod	08:46
ubottu	xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod (source: xscreensaver): BSOD screen saver module from XScreenSaver. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.30-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 141 kB, installed size 567 kB	08:46
Kali_Yuga	You are talking about the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" correct ?	08:46
Zombyrad	DalekSec, is that a screensaver that does what I think it does? :o	08:46
daftykins	!who \| Kali_Yuga	08:46
ubottu	Kali_Yuga: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	08:46
DalekSec	Zombyrad: It doesn't give you a BSOD, but displays a set of 'em yeah.	08:47
badbodh	Kali_Yuga, just type in first few alphabets and press 'tab'	08:47
Zombyrad	Awesome, I need that now :D	08:47
DalekSec	Zombyrad: There's also a lcdscrub one, no idea if it actually does what it says on the can.	08:47
Kali_Yuga	ja sorry i ment Fuchs	08:47
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: yes.	08:48
Kali_Yuga	you said Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: open nvidia-settings, there is a setting for (x)video colour correction	08:48
Fuchs	or the likes, yes. As I pointed out, I don't have nvidia-settings at paw right now, as I am (unfortunately) sitting at an AMD machine	08:49
Fuchs	it doesn't have a terrible lot of settings, worst case you can just go through it. The button your are looking for is "reset to (hardware) defaults", that should be findable. Try that. Solved the issue with blue coloured video for me.	08:49
Kali_Yuga	hmm cuz I sadly can't find a colour correction setting :(	08:50
Zombyrad	Kali_Yuga, let me boot up my laptop, it has nvidia, I'll give you directions	08:50
Kali_Yuga	Wow I would be unbelievable thankful	08:51
daftykins	or you could google	08:51
Kali_Yuga	i did	08:51
badbodh	Kali_Yuga, Fuchs how about control center> color > add profile . is that relevant ?	08:51
Fuchs	badbodh: no	08:52
badbodh	ok	08:52
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: I can check for you in roughly 9 hours, but I guess until then you have found it ...	08:52
Zombyrad	Open the Nvidia X server settings app and go to X screen 0	08:53
Kali_Yuga	cuz blue inverted colours is sometimes annoying it doesn't happen on vlc... thats why I thought about the vlc-backend	08:53
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=0&image=nvidia_8751_02_sml this one and the one below.	08:53
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: well, you can obviously switch to vlc-backend, but that will only affect players using phonon. For the rest you still want to fix it	08:53
michael_2015	hi	08:53
michael_2015	:clear	08:54
Kali_Yuga	Sorry i don't see that option in my driver settings :( it's probably different from card to card or driver to driver ??	08:54
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: are you using the nvidia driver? cat /proc/drivers/nvidia/version	08:54
Zombyrad	Kali_Yuga, might be... Can you find an option in the left hand pane that says DFP-0 (or similar, usually the brand name of the screen)? Should be under the GPU section	08:55
Kali_Yuga	wait I send you all a screen ok	08:56
ablest1980	how do i apt-get firefox?	08:57
ablest1980	sudo apt-get install firefox?	08:57
badbodh	Kali_Yuga, you get the same issue on all video players? how does youtube work ?	08:57
Kali_Yuga	http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=15707602	08:57
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Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: that's interesting	08:58
daftykins	ablest1980: you most likely already have it.	08:58
ablest1980	ok	08:58
badbodh	ablest1980, yes. but if i recall firefox is pre-installed in ubuntu.	08:58
ablest1980	just checking ty	08:58
ablest1980	yes	08:58
Kali_Yuga	can you direct me from there?	08:58
daftykins	looks like an optimus setup	08:58
ablest1980	i have it	08:58
Kali_Yuga	there is nothing right	08:58
ablest1980	XD	08:58
daftykins	ablest1980: well holy-moly	08:58
ablest1980	lol	08:58
Fuchs	Kali_Yuga: that looks indeed like a bit missing, however, what ablest1980 wrote. You happen to have a notebook, with an intel card in it, too?	08:59
Zombyrad	Kali_Yuga, yeah, seems like the option where the color correction stuff should be isn't there	08:59
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Fuchs	if yes: I think that one is responsible for the output, so maybe you have to check their settings	08:59
m0r0n	daftykins, badbodh , Zombyrad ty for your patients. I'll try to figure out a lock later today. It's 5AM and I need to sleep.	08:59
daftykins	Fuchs: that was me ;_;	08:59
ablest1980	i have amd ati notebook	08:59
Kali_Yuga	shit	09:00
Fuchs	daftykins: err, sorry :(	09:00
Fuchs	daftykins: you both have the same colour, my bad	09:00
Zombyrad	m0r0n, no problem, glad to be of help!	09:00
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: inappropriate language here	09:00
* Fuchs hands daftykins a tasty cookie		09:00
daftykins	woohoo cookie \o/	09:00
daftykins	yep i'm gonna be fat with all these cookies	09:00
* badbodh snatches the cookie and runs		09:00
ablest1980	oatmeal cookies hehe	09:00
badbodh	nom-nom...blurghhh...raisins! in a cookie!	09:01
ablest1980	kidding XD	09:01
Zombyrad	Does intel have a gui app for settings on Linux? I've always had pure nvidia setups...	09:01
daftykins	not that i know of, Zombyrad	09:02
badbodh	you guys use 'inxi' ? gives a lot of info for troubleshooting	09:02
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: "lspci \| pastebinit" please	09:02
Kali_Yuga	do what ok 1 sec pls	09:02
daftykins	badbodh: built in tools are more useful.	09:02
Kali_Yuga	not installed wait	09:02
daftykins	often we're helping new users.	09:02
badbodh	inxi is just a frontend. try it sometime, it's in repos. mint channel guys use it a lot. graphics network audio all in one.	09:03
Kali_Yuga	ok i could have done that differently but ok here my system	09:04
Kali_Yuga	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069668/	09:04
Zombyrad	Yeah, that looks like it might be a Nvidia Optimus setup	09:05
Kali_Yuga	for what was that important??	09:05
x4w31	Kali_Yuga: lspci -k	09:05
x4w31	ups im late :)	09:06
Kali_Yuga	ya	09:06
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Kali_Yuga	ok what is an Nvidia Optimus now??	09:07
daftykins	sure is, ivybridge and so forth	09:07
daftykins	intel+nvidia hybrid graphics setup	09:07
Zombyrad	Kali_Yuga, because in essence you have 2 video cards, an intel one and the nvidia one, crudely satted	09:07
Zombyrad	*stated	09:07
Kali_Yuga	I know i have both	09:07
Kali_Yuga	which means D:	09:07
Kali_Yuga	?	09:07
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Zombyrad	Can you try optirun <your media player> and play a video and check if the colors are wrong still?	09:08
Kali_Yuga	but i dont use the Intel one actually... it's a laptop by the way	09:08
Ice_Strike	VNC view is really slugish remotely accessing to Ubuntu.. How to improve the speed?	09:09
Kali_Yuga	i try what is opti something?	09:09
Kali_Yuga	i mean opti sound good right	09:10
wileee	optimus	09:10
daftykins	optirun isn't even necessarily the implementation on there o0	09:10
Kali_Yuga	optimal sound always good	09:10
x4w3	Ice_Strike: vnc server options?	09:10
daftykins	you're just making up words now :)	09:10
Ice_Strike	x4w3 I am using that it come with Ubuntu.	09:10
Ice_Strike	Desktop Sharing	09:11
Guest79797	ii evah can't booting iso file to Pendrive	09:11
Guest79797	on version ubuntu 15.04 mate	09:11
Guest79797	please help me	09:11
Kali_Yuga	apt-get install bumblebee	09:12
Kali_Yuga	??	09:12
daftykins	Guest79797: how did you make the drive?	09:12
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: no.	09:12
Zombyrad	Eh, no, Kali_Yuga	09:12
daftykins	bumblebee is the old outdated method	09:12
Kali_Yuga	optirun	09:12
Kali_Yuga	The program 'optirun' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	09:12
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: dpkg -l \| grep nvidia \| pastebinit	09:12
Kali_Yuga	sudo apt-get install bumblebee	09:12
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: don't do it.	09:12
EriC^^	Kali_Yuga: listen to daftykins	09:12
Kali_Yuga	ok	09:12
Guest79797	i have pendrive with 16 gb	09:12
x4w3	Kali_Yuga: xtightvncviewer is faster for slow vnc connections	09:13
Guest79797	i open the creator and i can't put iso file	09:13
Guest79797	i think about rufus	09:13
daftykins	Guest79797: no need, use 'dd' from the terminal to put the ISO on the flash drive	09:13
Kali_Yuga	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069732/	09:13
Guest79797	how i can install rufus?	09:13
eejhaykyaw	hey	09:13
Guest79797	who have a teamviewer?	09:13
Guest79797	please help me with this.	09:13
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: hmm you have two conflicting nvidia drivers installed, interesting	09:13
x4w3	Ice_Strike: xtightvncviewer -compresslevel 9 yourremotepc	09:14
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: also, "dpkg -l \| grep bumble \| pastebinit"	09:14
Guest79797	but i fucked up my ubuntu, please repair all of my version	09:14
Guest79797	i can't install packages because it's broken.	09:14
x4w3	Ice_Strike: compresslevel9 is low quality	09:14
Kali_Yuga	really games are working great!	09:15
Kali_Yuga	??	09:15
daftykins	Guest79797: that language isn't appropriate here.	09:15
Kali_Yuga	dpkg -l \| grep bumble \| pastebinit	09:15
Kali_Yuga	You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.	09:15
daftykins	Guest79797: 'dd' came with it, it won't need installing.	09:15
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: good stuff, that's what we wanted to see.	09:16
Kali_Yuga	xD what?	09:16
Guest79797	i can't unrar files .rar, after open the wine I can't open file .exe	09:16
Guest79797	i can't play on metin2	09:16
daftykins	Guest79797: you're hopping between tasks, either you want to make up a flash drive or you don't	09:16
daftykins	don't start talking about wine	09:16
Kali_Yuga	get playonlinux Guest79797	09:16
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Guest79797	Kali from poland?	09:17
Kali_Yuga	no us sorry	09:17
Kali_Yuga	ok daftykins what now? why are they conflicting?	09:18
Guest79797	I oppened port of server minecraft 25565 ? After I reset my PC and i can't join on my server.	09:18
jokowi-asu	Guest79797, could you restart your brain? It seems hot.	09:18
daftykins	Kali_Yuga: eh it's probably fine. no idea on your original issue, whatever it was - colours or what not	09:18
daftykins	Guest79797: like i said, either you want a bootable flash drive made up or not - asking the channel 5 questions at once is just going to get you ignore	09:19
Kali_Yuga	yes blue inverted colours in video xDD	09:19
daftykins	d	09:19
Guest79797	jokowi What do you mean?	09:20
dan2wik	is there a way to make a user's ~ their / as well?	09:20
EriC^^	dan2wik: you want cd ~ to be cd / ?	09:20
dan2wik	EriC^^: I want / to be ~	09:20
EriC^^	dan2wik: i think you want to chroot them to their home dir then	09:21
SeerKan	@dan2wik only with jailshell probably	09:21
dan2wik	EriC^^: if they do ls / , what will they see?	09:22
EriC^^	nothing, they can't access anything outside their home dir	09:22
dan2wik	but they can write to root?	09:22
Guest79797	x	09:23
EriC^^	no	09:23
kolaman	i have created an upstart job but it doens't respawn @ all	09:23
kolaman	here is the upstart script that i created (http://www.pastebin.ca/3102016) can someone please look into this what am i doing wrong	09:24
kolaman	whenever the process is killed it doesn't respawn @all	09:24
dan2wik	EriC^^: I mostly want this so that they can only modify files in their directory using winscp	09:24
EriC^^	dan2wik: you can easily have them just chroot to their home with sftp i think	09:25
dan2wik	yes, they will be using sftp	09:25
Kali_Yuga	well it's alright i have a workaround	09:25
dan2wik	EriC^^: I can find the relevant information on setting that up on google, thank you for your direction.	09:27
EriC^^	no problem	09:28
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mehionline	Hello ! I'm computer engineering student in Iran and in my summer free times and weekends I'd like to contribute to open source projects, I don't know where to start and how? I really appreciate if any body guide me	09:42
OerHeks	!contribute	09:42
ubottu	To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu	09:42
mehionline	especially contributing to ubuntu	09:42
OerHeks	:-)	09:42
haloha	Mehionline: can you code ware to launch nuclear missile in usa?	09:44
EriC^^	O.o ?	09:44
ghostinzshell	Does anyone experience dropping connections on Intel wireless adapters (e.g Intel 7625)?	09:44
mehionline	tnx for the links @ubottu	09:44
ghostinzshell	N only networks also don't seem to appear, only bgn networks.	09:44
evidex	mehionline: Probably the best way is to look at open source projects you currently use, and see where you could help improve/fix them	09:45
EriC^^	mehionline: there's a package called how-can-i-help which you can install and tells you which projects need what and how you can help with them	09:45
EriC^^	sudo apt-get install how-can-i-help	09:45
evidex	EriC^^: Nice. Didn't know about that one.	09:46
mehionline	how-can-i-help command give the following error :	09:50
mehionline	/usr/bin/how-can-i-help:135:in `open': No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - /home/mehionline/.cache/how-can-i-help/how-can-i-help.json.gz (Errno::ENOENT)	09:50
mehionline	from /usr/bin/how-can-i-help:135:in `<main>'	09:50
Fuchs	my guess would be that he is missing a file!	09:51
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mehionline	I think it just works for debian not ubuntu	09:53
daftykins	or maybe ubuntu needs help with the "how can i help" prog	09:54
daftykins	so meta	09:54
EriC^^	mehionline: it used to work fine	09:59
EriC^^	guess there's a bug in it	09:59
EriC^^	as daftykins said you can report the bug :)	09:59
mehionline	how can i report the bug? from launchpad?	09:59
x4w3	para quitar un X-server con desintalar el lightdm o gdm me vale?	10:00
OerHeks	mehionline, open terminal: ubuntu-bug how-can-i-help	10:00
k1l	!es \| x4w3	10:00
ubottu	x4w3: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.	10:00
x4w3	sorry i want to paste in other channel, translating it, how do i desactivate x-server in linux? uninstalling gdm or lightdm is enough?	10:01
EriC^^	x4w3: add text to the kernel line in /etc/default/grub, then sudo update-grub	10:02
k1l	x4w3: temporary deactivating? use text as boot parameter	10:02
x4w3	definitive k1l EriC^^	10:02
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georgi	I'create encryption software and I can't to sell software.	10:10
sdfswelp	anybody know what might be causing the issue with addons or some dropdown menus getting stuck at "Loading" (with firefox)	10:10
sdfswelp	georgi who is your target audience ?	10:10
sdfswelp	storage ? cloud business ?	10:11
georgi	storage	10:11
atralheaven_	are flash or java disabled?	10:11
georgi	no I'm create in c++	10:12
atralheaven_	how can mention someone here?	10:12
MonkeyDust	atralheaven_ type two characters of someone's name, then hit tab	10:13
sdfswelp	thanks for the pointer it must be about either one	10:13
georgi	How I can sell please tell me?	10:14
MonkeyDust	georgi wrong channel, this is for ubuntu support	10:14
atralheaven_	sorry	10:15
georgi	ok	10:15
georgi	sorry	10:15
sdfswelp	sorry	10:15
atralheaven_	Im using pidgin, are you sure that it works here too? @MonkeyDust	10:16
atralheaven_	MonkeyDust: just for testing, I try to mention you	10:16
atralheaven_	did it work?	10:17
x4w3	pidgin run properly.	10:17
MonkeyDust	atralheaven_ great, you did it	10:17
atralheaven_	MonkeyDust: thank you! its better to use mentions	10:18
atralheaven_	sdfswelp: check if firefox flash or java is disabled, it may cause problems like this	10:19
georgi_	k	10:19
georgi_	I'm create encryption software and How I can sell this software.	10:19
sdfswelp	atralheaven_: I just noticed Firefox started blocking java update 45	10:20
sdfswelp	any suggestions ? it seems its the latest ??	10:21
k1l	georgi_: that is not an ubuntu support issue. ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat	10:21
atralheaven_	sdfswelp: do you have any addons that might be blocking java?	10:22
sdfswelp	not really, just some themes	10:22
sdfswelp	ubuntu modifications and atralheaven_ atralheaven_ unity stuff	10:23
sdfswelp	oops sorry, tabspamd	10:23
atralheaven_	sdfswelp: they wont block java. may you explain more? or if its possible, give me the page link so I can check myself	10:24
sdfswelp	https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p964	10:25
OerHeks	sdfswelp, Firefox does block that old java indeed > https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p964	10:25
atralheaven_	"Java Plugin 8 update 45 (click-to-play), Linux has been blocked for your protection." I see that too	10:27
OerHeks	current is Java 8 Update 51	10:27
atralheaven_	maybe the addon has some problems	10:27
k1l	atralheaven_: sdfswelp do you have all the latest updates installed?	10:27
k1l	run: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"	10:28
sdfswelp	I was about to ask about that because I just did distro and update & upgrade all of them	10:28
atralheaven_	k1l: I think so, btw its not my probelm	10:28
sdfswelp	and it's still at this update ?	10:28
est31	hi, how can I see which packages changed on ubuntu wily 15.10?	10:29
k1l	sdfswelp: please run my command to make sure its at the latest state.	10:29
est31	I want to find out why the launchpad daily builds i maintain fail	10:29
daftykins	est31: it's not released yet so chat in #ubuntu+1 please	10:29
atralheaven_	it seems that this addon has some issues, and firefox has blocked it, maybe!	10:29
OerHeks	sdfswelp, you will not get java updates if you installed it manually. see the !java factoid	10:29
georgi	I'm create Encryption software and I want to sell software.	10:29
k1l	est31: nearly all packages changed. gcc5 etc pp. see the logs why its failing	10:29
OerHeks	atralheaven_, wrong, firefox blocks it as it is out of date.	10:30
k1l	georgi: i already told you that this is not a marketplace. so now you are muted in here	10:30
sdfswelp	allright.. could you help me fix this ? which package is preferred in ubuntu	10:30
est31	k1l, the issue is they worked, since today 10 AM	10:30
est31	8:16 AM sorry	10:30
k1l	est31: doesnt launchpad builder provide a log or error message?	10:31
est31	yes	10:31
sdfswelp	default-jre ?	10:31
est31	i have a suspicion	10:31
est31	but I want to confirm i	10:31
est31	t	10:31
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est31	for it i need a list of updated packages	10:31
k1l	est31: see packages.ubuntu.com	10:31
est31	e.g. which packages were updated since yesterday	10:31
k1l	est31: there is not "the list".	10:31
atralheaven_	guys if I had a idea/suggestion for ubuntu, where can I tell developers about it?	10:32
k1l	atralheaven_: ubuntu--devel-discuss mailinglist	10:32
sdfswelp	fkkk... now I remember I needed oracle java for something. How do I even change back	10:33
OerHeks	!java	10:33
ubottu	To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.	10:33
sdfswelp	yes openjdk I assume will solve theproblem	10:34
sdfswelp	cheers	10:34
atralheaven_	I've never worked with mailing lists :\| I should learn what it is and how can I use it, I can't spend much time for it, can I just tell someone who is in developers group about it?	10:37
daftykins	that's the way by the sounds :)	10:37
atralheaven_	just simple ideas to make ubuntu better	10:37
OerHeks	atralheaven_, that is how development works, not in an IRC channel, but typed out in a mailinglist.	10:39
k1l	!mailinglists	10:39
ubottu	Mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailing lists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com	10:39
atralheaven_	thanks, you're right, I will check that out :)	10:40
OerHeks	think globally/timezones/not all developers are hanging in an IRC channel.	10:40
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est31	well, minetest development happens mainly via irc	10:44
est31	some projects do it via irc, some do it via mailing lists.	10:44
est31	as long as it isnt walled garden like trello or so...	10:45
onicrom	hey all, anyone else having weird problems in 15.04? in firefox the browser will reduce zoom to 30%, in chrome if i have multiple tabs and i try to use a anything but the first (far left) tab it 'scrolls' automatically back to the first. in menu systems in other things like skype it automatically starts scrolling	10:50
onicrom	i recently apt-get upgraded , wondering if anyone else has found thing	10:51
onicrom	*this	10:51
daftykins	sounds like something is rolling your mouse wheel	10:51
BluesKaj	Hey all	10:51
daftykins	mornin'	10:51
MonkeyDust	onicrom yes, sounds mouse related, not ubuntu related	10:52
onicrom	that makes sense but my scroll wheel is not free rolling	10:52
daftykins	right but things can go wrong	10:52
daftykins	unplug it and use the browsers with the keyboard, see what happens	10:53
daftykins	free option ^	10:53
onicrom	lol	10:53
daftykins	just for testing i mean, i'm deadly serious	10:53
onicrom	whats the non-free ?	10:53
onicrom	no i get it	10:53
est31	can I somehow see the build log for yesterday?	10:53
est31	launchpad	10:54
daftykins	est31: as i told you earlier, #ubuntu+1 is the place for wily talk.	10:54
MonkeyDust	onicrom the non-free is Windows (joke)	10:54
daftykins	it's not out thus this is the wrong channel	10:54
k1l	est31: try if someone in #launchpad knowns	10:55
onicrom	well i think youre right about the mouse, unplugging it may have helped but its a bit harder to reproduce without it :)	10:56
onicrom	but yes it makes sense because i had the same problem in gnome-terminal with tabs too	10:57
* onicrom tips his had to MonkeyDust and daftykins		10:57
daftykins	onicrom: what happened?	10:57
onicrom	daftykins: nothing, which is good	10:58
daftykins	onicrom: as in the behaviour went away when you unplugged the mouse?	10:59
onicrom	daftykins: correct, but navigation is a bit slower so not entirely sure its reproducable	11:00
onicrom	without the mouse	11:00
NetworkingPro	hey everyone	11:01
NetworkingPro	What exactly is the dmesg log	11:01
NetworkingPro	?	11:01
daftykins	kernel messages	11:01
daftykins	or daemon messages	11:01
daftykins	onicrom: for what it's worth i had an issue with my mouse wheel going up the page as much as it would go down when i rolled it just down... took it apart and cleaned it up, found lots of gunk - all solved :)	11:01
onicrom	NetworkingPro: man dmesg	11:02
NetworkingPro	daftykins: thx	11:02
NetworkingPro	onicrom: will do	11:02
onicrom	daftykins: funny thing i was just thinking ive had this mouse for 4yrs now and use it at least 10hrs a day 7 days a week. im sure thats the case :)	11:02
est31	k1l, thanks	11:02
onicrom	also i am a big fan of dmesg -T	11:03
onicrom	its about TTTTime that was added	11:03
daftykins	XD	11:03
onicrom	time for BACON and eggs	11:04
onicrom	droool	11:04
daftykins	one please	11:04
onicrom	surething	11:05
NetworkingPro	<< Just had ham	11:05
NetworkingPro	was pretty tasty.	11:05
thalisson_	##aws	11:06
root____6	jj	11:06
leeyaa	hello	11:15
leeyaa	trying to add a rule to network table with this: /sbin/ip route add 77.246.215.115/28 dev eth0 src 77.246.215.115 table in	11:16
leeyaa	it returns invalid argument, any idea what am i doing wrong ?	11:16
* onicrom hands daftykins some bacon		11:16
leeyaa	i am pretty sure it used to work	11:16
onicrom	ive never gotten used to the ip route	11:16
onicrom	er ip command	11:16
onicrom	the src thing is throwing me off from that command	11:17
leeyaa	onicrom: what do you mean	11:17
onicrom	it looks wrong	11:17
Calvin_	fdaf	11:17
leeyaa	onicrom: basically i need those two routes https://bpaste.net/show/fda62730696a	11:17
abb0	i know this might sound stupid and if it does i apologize, but how stable is ubuntu mate?	11:18
abb0	was thinkin of giving it a shot, looks nice as heck	11:18
leeyaa	maybe skip the src ?	11:18
onicrom	yes	11:18
leeyaa	hm	11:18
leeyaa	again	11:18
leeyaa	something else is wrong	11:18
onicrom	i would use route	11:18
leeyaa	not sure how to add to table with just route	11:19
onicrom	route add -net 77.246.215.115/28 gw 77.246.215.115	11:19
daftykins	^	11:19
leeyaa	onicrom: i need both tables. using two isp uplinks	11:19
leeyaa	btw /sbin/ip route add 77.246.215.115 dev eth0 src 77.246.215.115 works but i cant access the 115 ip from the outside	11:20
onicrom	leeyaa: ah	11:20
onicrom	that leads me to a problem i need to solve actually	11:27
onicrom	im going to have 3 different interfaces (8021q tagged) i have one set as default route, but i need to ensure that the traffic goes back out the same interface it come sin on	11:28
daftykins	possibly one for ##networking	11:28
leeyaa	daftykins: i was refered from #networking to #ubuntu :D	11:29
daftykins	right but you're not the person i'm talking to.	11:29
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leeyaa	oh sorry	11:31
onicrom	leeyaa: what are you trying to do with your rule	11:32
asteriskATmarmuD	I can't remember where to add a user to the gosa admins. any idea?	11:32
leeyaa	onicrom: to make the second upling available while im using default gw from first network upling	11:33
leeyaa	both are using eth0 as network interface	11:33
leeyaa	upling/uplink	11:33
onicrom	the	11:33
onicrom	'src' is in the same subnet as your network	11:33
onicrom	by default it would route out eth0 if thats the case	11:34
leeyaa	onicrom: i used to have this but for some reason it stopped working # Make our box accessible on both interfaces # We must have the following lines in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables: # 20 bl # 21 in #/sbin/ip route del table bl 2>/dev/null /sbin/ip route del table bl /sbin/ip route del table in #/sbin/ip route del table in 2>/dev/null /sbin/ip route add 212.104.111.67/28 dev eth0 src 212.104.111.67 table bl /sbin/ip route add 77.246.215.1	11:34
leeyaa	ah snap	11:34
leeyaa	i mean this https://bpaste.net/show/8235a2460421	11:34
MonkeyDust	leeyaa better use a pastebin	11:34
leeyaa	MonkeyDust: yeah sorry	11:34
leeyaa	onicrom: this used to be working until reboot	11:34
MrPPS	eesh, upgraded from 14.10 -> 15.04, and since switching to systemd, userspace bootup time has increased to 3.5 minutes :/	11:34
tyy	Congratulation	11:35
leeyaa	MrPPS: welcome to systemd madness ;p	11:35
MrPPS	haha	11:35
daftykins	s/systemd/OS upgrade/	11:35
mcphail	MrPPS: that would seem abnormal	11:36
leeyaa	onicrom: any idea what i might be missing? :P	11:36
onicrom	leeyaa: ive never using multiple routing tables in linux so im trying to wrap my head around thing	11:36
onicrom	*this	11:36
MrPPS	daftykins: I only say systemd because systemd-analyze blame suggests it's the systemd-udev-settle that's the longest	11:37
MrPPS	and a lot of others have experienced the same thing related to systemd	11:37
tyy	Never know about systemd - still stuck with old ubuntu server 7.x	11:39
leeyaa	tyy: i has ubuntu 6, like 90 of em	11:39
tyy	Lol	11:39
onicrom	leeyaa: im googling and saw this syntax	11:39
onicrom	ip route add table local local 10.10.20.64 dev eth0 proto kernel scope host src 10.10.20.67	11:39
leeyaa	onicrom: what is src for	11:40
leeyaa	and after local that ip, gw ?	11:40
MonkeyDust	gw is gateway	11:40
MonkeyDust	src is source	11:40
leeyaa	MonkeyDust: i mean what is 10.10.20.64	11:40
onicrom	leeyaa: i think 10.10.20.64 is where you put network	11:41
onicrom	and change scope from host to net	11:41
onicrom	?	11:41
MonkeyDust	leeyaa are you not familiar with ip addresses?	11:41
onicrom	SCOPE := [ host \| link \| global \| NUMBER ]	11:41
onicrom	maybe not	11:41
leeyaa	sigh	11:42
MonkeyDust	leeyaa surf to whatismyip.com and read (don't show us, it's for you)	11:43
leeyaa	MonkeyDust: i have no idea what are you talking about	11:45
philip_	when installing ubuntu server is it good to use lvm	11:46
daftykins	depends if you want to use LVM, i never do - it's black magic to me.	11:46
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MonkeyDust	philip_ with LVM, you can more easily add, remove, resize partitions ... there's a learning curve tho, i only know the basics	11:47
philip_	so its better to instal with lvm rather and just installing as root	11:50
MonkeyDust	philip_ but also explore 'linux containers' lxc	11:50
daftykins	it's only better if you know how and want to use it :P	11:50
philip_	which is more preferred	11:50
daftykins	read about it and then just pick one!	11:51
mobile3	-bash: a2enmod: command not found ?? Please anyone help !	11:51
daftykins	i don't personally think it important to ever need to resize partitions post install	11:51
MonkeyDust	philip_ if you don't know what it is and what it's for, don't use it	11:51
TJ-	leeyaa: Although it ought not to matter, it is convention to specify the network by its base address, which is "212.104.111.64/28" instead of by one of the addresses within the CIDR as you have. It makes reading the tables easier	11:51
philip_	i have no idea about lxc	11:51
MonkeyDust	philip_ that's why i suggested to explore it... you have no idea about lvm either...	11:52
leeyaa	TJ-: ill note that	11:52
philip_	mostly wat i want to do is increase partition after adding additional harddisk when configured with RAID	11:52
TJ-	philip_: Using LVM is a good approach, especially if you reserve some space for future allocations instead of allocating all space immediately	11:52
leeyaa	btw im still scratching my head. i am reading this and it is supposed to work https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Two_Default_Gateways_on_One_System	11:52
leeyaa	however im still getting invalid argument	11:53
TJ-	leeyaa: does /var/log/kern.log give any clues?	11:53
leeyaa	TJ-: no thats all i get https://bpaste.net/show/f00cc09d640e	11:54
philip_	am actually configuring hardware RAID , and added additional harddisk but trying to increase size	11:54
TJ-	leeyaa: is there anything in those route tables alredy, when you issue the command? Also, what ip addresses are assigned to the interface at this point ("ip addr show dev eth0") ?	11:54
TJ-	philip_: TRUE hardware RAID, or fakeRAID?	11:55
leeyaa	TJ-: default routes should be in the tables and thease are the ips https://bpaste.net/show/87d2b5feb637	11:55
leeyaa	TJ-: this is what i had as a script and it used to work https://bpaste.net/show/8235a2460421	11:55
MonkeyDust	philip_ start from the beginning, what brings you here	11:55
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leeyaa	im sure im missing something weird	11:56
philip_	what i want to do is, after adding additional harddisk i want it to take effect on the ubuntu server	11:57
daftykins	that will never be auto	11:58
philip_	by increasing the partition	11:58
daftykins	that's a really bad idea, one disk would die and you may lose everything	11:58
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philip_	i have three harddisk(RAID 5 configured) added a new harddisk to increase the space which i have done.but now trying to increase the size on the ubuntu server using resize2fs but not workin	12:01
daftykins	RAID5 provided by what? Linux mdadm?	12:01
philip_	i configured hard ware RAID	12:02
daftykins	then this is nothing to do with the OS	12:02
daftykins	well, if you already increased the RAID volume properly and have all that done, just gparted could resize the partition	12:02
daftykins	(maybe)	12:03
daftykins	perhaps if you booted a live session of ubuntu desktop someone could help you assess the current situation	12:03
philip_	my problem is how to resize because it is an ubuntu server not GUI	12:03
daftykins	right but no matter what, you don't resize from the running system if it's not LVM	12:04
daftykins	so you need to boot a live session of desktop.	12:04
philip_	it is lvm	12:04
TJ-	philip_: does the OS report the new hardware RAID device size?	12:04
philip_	yes pls	12:04
philip_	its not the resizing am having little issue with	12:05
TJ-	philip_: how are you confirming the RAID device is now larger than it was - what command are you using, and what is its output ?	12:06
philip_	using fdisk	12:07
TJ-	philip_: right, so you have a larger disk, which has partitions on it, and in those partitions are file-systems. You can only use resize2fs the file-system, but to do that, the partition that contains the file-system needs to be enlarged first, and the kernel told to re-read the partition table, otherwise a reboot is required for the kernel to read the partition table again	12:10
philip_	i used resize2fs but its not taking effect even after resizing it	12:11
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vjgty	excuse me!	12:14
daftykins	philip_: pro tip would be to actually provide some evidence of this situation and not just words	12:14
philip_	okay	12:14
vjgty	i am looking for help with ubuntu	12:15
foobarfoobarbar	hello	12:16
foobarfoobarbar	How do I do this in bash? git commit -m 'pass \| smth \| like \| this'	12:16
vjgty	excuse me! could anyone show me how to contact help with ubuntu?	12:17
daftykins	!ask \| vjgty	12:17
ubottu	vjgty: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	12:17
teward	vjgty: 'help' is ambiguous. You should start by stating what your current problem is	12:19
teward	or what you really need.	12:19
vjgty	ok. my problem is that i am running Windows 10 and i downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and burned the ISO in the USB. after that I ran Wubi from the Windows explorer, and then restarted. I booted into the USB, but after a while, the login window appeared. I searched for help. I did everything I could. I entered the username 'ubuntu' and leave the password field blank. I also press Ctrl + Alt + F1 to create a new user name, and the problem still exists: there was a	12:24
k1l	dont use wubi	12:24
k1l	make a real install into own partitions. or if you want to test, then just boot the usb-live-system to test ubuntu.	12:25
vjgty	k1l: could you show me how to install ubuntu into my own partitions?	12:26
salikovpro	ololo?	12:27
onicrom	leeyaa: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html	12:29
vjgty	could anyone show me how to install ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS without using wubi?	12:30
leeyaa	onicrom: thats with two interfaces	12:30
leeyaa	im using one ;p	12:30
leeyaa	second interface is for local network only	12:30
vjgty	could anyone show me how to install ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS without using wubi?	12:30
Mathisen	vjgty, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop	12:31
onicrom	leeyaa: add another :)	12:31
onicrom	leeyaa: vlan tags?	12:32
leeyaa	onicrom: im supposed to do it with one	12:32
leeyaa	and the funny part is it used to work	12:32
onicrom	can you use 8021q	12:32
leeyaa	8021q ?	12:32
onicrom	eth0.100 would be an interface using vlan 100	12:32
onicrom	its a new 'device'	12:32
onicrom	but uses the same wire	12:33
vjgty	Mathisen: it is a mess now. there are both ubuntu and windows in my PC. and the boot with USB ended up with infinite circles of login screens	12:33
leeyaa	onicrom: how do you configure that	12:33
leeyaa	i used to do it on gentoo	12:33
leeyaa	no idea how to make eth0.something on ubuntu	12:34
onicrom	your switch needs to have the vlans setup	12:34
onicrom	apt-get install vlan	12:34
leeyaa	it doesnt ;p	12:34
leeyaa	so out of the question	12:34
onicrom	then edit /etc/network/interfaces and just define an interface eth0.###	12:34
Mathisen	vjgty, if you just want to have ubuntu on your machine just boot from a dvd then and choose " Wipe the drive " then everything will be gone as long as you dont have multiple drives	12:34
onicrom	well fix your switches :)	12:34
Mathisen	vjgty, beware EVERYTHING will be lost	12:35
leeyaa	onicrom: it used to work. i just need to find out whats wrong now	12:35
vjgty	Mathisen: But the only thing I have now is my USB, i do not have a dvd	12:35
Mathisen	vjgty, usb works fine	12:36
vjgty	Mathisen: I burned the ISO into it	12:36
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Mathisen	vjgty, does not work like that... try this >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/	12:36
k1l_	vjgty: do you want windows and ubunut on it or just ubuntu?	12:37
vjgty	Mathisen: can i install ubuntu on my hard drive using that tool?	12:38
Mathisen	vjgty, it will create a usb that you can boot from, so yes	12:38
vjgty	k1l: I want both windows and ubuntu	12:39
k1l_	vjgty: ok. what OS are you using right now?	12:39
vjgty	Mathisen :my USB has only 2GB	12:40
vjgty	Mathisen: is that a problem?	12:40
pi-	Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /brython_log.txt on this server.	12:40
vjgty	k1l: i am using Windows 10 OS	12:40
pi-	I've just done "sudo ln -s /home/pi/irclogs/freenode/#brython.log /home/pi/web/public_html/brython_log.txt" but http://pipad.org/brython_log.txt gives "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /brython_log.txt on this server."	12:40
k1l_	vjgty: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows	12:40
pi-	Sorry for the first line, IRC client bug	12:41
Mathisen	vjgty, 2 GB should be enough	12:41
k1l_	vjgty: see that howto. 2gb usb is fine.	12:41
pi-	Can anyone tell me why this fails?	12:41
vjgty	mathisen: can I use Rufus instead?	12:42
vjgty	Mathisen: can I use Rufus instead?	12:43
vjgty	k1l: can I use Rufus instead?	12:43
Mathisen	vjgty, use whatever you feel is best for you	12:43
Mathisen	vjgty, in the end its all the same	12:43
vjgty	Mathisen: well, the fact is that I tried rufus and it got stuck ;-)	12:44
Mathisen	vjgty, but do some reading first if you want to keep windows also so you dont go and delete the windows partition during the installtion	12:44
leeyaa	sigh	12:44
vjgty	Mathisen: thank you, I will try your method for the better	12:45
vjgty	k1l: Thank you so much	12:45
k1l_	vjgty: after you created the usb, shrink the windows partitions from inside windows to make space for the ubuntu installation.	12:45
vjgty	k1l: how to shrink it?	12:46
leeyaa	the damn second interface is working but i cant ping it	12:46
leeyaa	i had this	12:46
leeyaa	i hate this*	12:46
vjgty	k1l_ how to shrink it?	12:46
k1l_	vjgty: https://www.petri.com/shrink-system-partition-in-windows-7	12:48
vjgty	k1l_: thank you so much!	12:49
vjgty	bye guys!	12:50
TJ-	leeyaa: have you run tcpdump on the interface to see what is arriving?	12:50
leeyaa	TJ-: yeah iptables rules are messed up. ill figure it out	12:53
jabba_	does the time btrfs-convert need to covert an ext4-fs to btrfs depend on the amount of files or filesizes?	12:54
TJ-	jabba_: I would assume so, since I'd also asusme that unallocated blocks can be skipped over	12:55
jabba_	TJ-, you would assume it depends on size?	12:56
TJ-	jabba_: I would assume it depends on the number of allocated blocks in the source file-system... and the less free space in the source the more shuffling the conversion will have to do	12:57
jabba_	damn... i guess converting a 12TB device (1TB free) will take ages... :(	12:57
tyy	Lol	13:00
TJ-	jabba_: hope you've got a good back-ups and UPS running :)	13:04
the_upgrade	What is a standard input stream?	13:04
k1l_	the_upgrade: in what context?	13:05
the_upgrade	I'm trying to understand how all these hyphenated commands work.	13:05
the_upgrade	e.g., -p	13:05
k1l_	the_upgrade: still need more context	13:06
the_upgrade	Well I read that the hyphen is a command to "use the standard input stream"	13:06
Kartagis	the_upgrade: they are called parametres	13:06
the_upgrade	I dont understand what that means	13:06
k1l_	the_upgrade: "stream" got a lot of meanings in the IT. so if you cant even name the program/command where you read that word in the documentation i cant help you :/	13:07
Kartagis	the_upgrade: standard input stream is (I think) the parametre you feed the application from command line	13:07
TJ-	the_upgrade: every process initially is allocated 3 file-descriptors: 0 = stdin, 1 = stdout, 2 = stderr. stdin receives input (standard input)	13:08
TJ-	the_upgrade: if you pipe processes together with something like "echo hello \| grep hello" the shell connects stdout of "echo" to stdin of "grep"	13:08
TJ-	the_upgrade: alternatively, some programs take "-" in place of a filename to indicate they should read from stdin rather than a file	13:09
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the_upgrade	Ok, so for example, if I enter this into the terminal: mysql -u root -p	13:10
the_upgrade	What exactly am I doing?	13:11
TJ-	the_upgrade: the mysql client is receiving 3 arguments, denoted by "-u", "root", and "-p" ... it interprets them according to its own usage rules, which you can view for most commands using the "--help", "-h" options or using the manual with "man <command>" as in "man mysql"	13:12
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TJ-	the_upgrade: according to "man mysql" ... "--user=user_name, -u user_name"	13:13
the_upgrade	TJ: Very helpful answers, thank you.	13:13
TJ-	the_upgrade: so there is a 'long' form "--user=" and a 'short' form "-u" that both mean the same thing, and expect the next argument in the list to be a user-name	13:13
TJ-	the_upgrade: we often use the 'long' form to make a command easy to read, and the 'short' form when we're fed up of typing!	13:14
the_upgrade	What are the double hyphens for? e.g. --help?	13:16
maniacoDpr	hi	13:17
TJ-	the_upgrade: notice in the man-age description of the options that all 'long' options are prefixed with "--" and 'short' options by "-"	13:18
k1l_	the_upgrade: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11376/what-does-double-dash-mean-also-known-as-bare-double-dash	13:18
TJ-	the_upgrade: that is the signal to the argument parser as to what type of argument to expect	13:18
Mathisen	wow.... this must be the lecture of the month	13:21
MoPac	Hi all. Since yesterday, I've been getting constant hangs/crashes in Firefox (after 40.0 update) on 15.04 x64. I know it's likely an FF issue, but running it through gdb and getting traces has suggested that it has to do with something broken in threading / piping. I'm hoping someone here might have some technical insight that could help me understand better what's going on?	13:21
MoPac	See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193855	13:21
ubottu	Mozilla bug 1193855 in Untriaged "Frequent hangs/crashes in due to apparent threading error (in Ubuntu 15.04, began with 40.0)" [Critical,Unconfirmed]	13:21
gartral	hey all, I have a problem, after a botched intall attempt of 15.04 in UEFI-mode I wiped out my install and re-installed, but there seems to be a residule artifact on my drive's /boot/efi as seen here Password entry required for 'Please enter passphrase for disk WDC_WD3003FZEX-00Z4SA0 (cryptswap1) on none!' (PID 5882).	13:21
gartral	hey all, I have a problem, after a botched intall attempt of 15.04 in UEFI-mode I wiped out my install and re-installed, but there seems to be a residule artifact on my drive's /boot/efi as seen here "Password entry required for 'Please enter passphrase for disk WDC_WD3003FZEX-00Z4SA0 (cryptswap1) on none!' (PID 5882)." (repost to fix punctuation)	13:22
cfhowlett	gartral, that's not uefi, that's from encryption	13:22
EriC^^	^ +1	13:23
gartral	cfhowlett: well, whatever, how do i fix it?	13:23
EriC^^	start with your attitude	13:23
TJ-	MoPac: "Corrupted shared library list" ... does "ldd" show anything out of the ordinary?	13:24
cfhowlett	gartral, I assume you have encrypted the HDD?	13:24
gartral	cfhowlett: no, i haven't, only my home folder, which is why i assumed this was uefi-related	13:25
cfhowlett	gartral, I've found nothing but heartbreak with encryption, so I'm not the one to advise you. sorry.	13:25
gartral	cfhowlett: also see http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2015-08-1309-18-25.php	13:26
TJ-	gartral: the previous system created an (encrypted) swap partition... right now there probably isn't one defined but when the LUKS header for the swap partition is seen it triggers cryptsetup, which reads "/etc/crypttab" to find out how to unlock it, finds no reference to that partition, and asks you for a key	13:26
MoPac	TJ-: Not sure; is there an option I should run it with to check? I had done a bit of searching and was enlightened about the idea that it's probably a corrupted list of libraries rather than a list of corrupted libraries, but that's as far as I got ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30128220/finding-cause-of-corrupted-shared-library-error-qt5-c ). And I'm not sure if it's directly related or ot	13:26
gartral	TJ-: how might I rectify this?	13:27
TJ-	gartral: "sudo lsblk -f" might help identify which partition it is... then you can decide what is the best remedy - either zap the LUKS header, or ensure the new install uses the same partition and rewrites the key	13:27
czwolf	Hello, how could i add (XFCE) context command for the folder "Search for" for each directory I rightclick, including subdirectories (Thunar).	13:28
TJ-	MoPac: try "ldd -v /usr/lib/firefox/firefox"	13:29
gartral	TJ-: the error specifically says the drive, which is my internal hdd, on "none", also... "marking GPT swap partition /dev/sda3 as no-auto, so that the encrypted swap partition cryptswap1 will be used..."	13:31
MoPac	TJ-: Output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071009/	13:31
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gartral	TJ-: how do i zap the luks header?	13:32
TJ-	gartral: OK, so /dev/sda3 was/is discovered. Can you pastebin "/etc/fstab" and "/etc/crypttab" (the latteronly if it doesn't contain anything sensitive you've put there)	13:35
czwolf	To be more specific - I want to execute a specific command in a given directory, the command will be gnome-search-tool. I want it to be run for a directory I right click in Thunar. I would like to get some context menu "Search for" there. Any ideas? Thank you.	13:38
gartral	TJ-: certainly! fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071054/ and crypttab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071059/	13:38
gartral	TJ-: oh.. now i see, my swap is still encrpyted >.< i guess the option in the installer "remove everything and install ubuntu" is slightly mis-leading	13:39
TJ-	gartral: it's slightly more subtle than that. swap is encrypted with a key created each time the system boots from /dev/random	13:40
vikram123	hey	13:40
gartral	TJ-: did you see my screenshot?	13:40
TJ-	gartral: in theory even after a reinstall this should work but..! can you "pastebinit <(sudo lsblk -f)"	13:41
gartral	TJ-: you reminded me i need to install pastebinit	13:41
vikram123	gartral: hey	13:42
gartral	TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071096/	13:42
PornPirate	hey everyone	13:43
PornPirate	So, I have a ruby process thats no closing files.. its spawning 100's of thousands of network files (lsof) very quickly.	13:44
PornPirate	Any idea how to troubleshoot that?	13:44
PornPirate	Im... lost	13:44
cfhowlett	PornPirate, ask #ruby	13:44
PornPirate	cfhowlett: nothing that I can do at the linux level to find out more?	13:45
TJ-	gartral: right, I think it's trying to unlock /dev/sdb5 ... we need to prove that is indeed WDC_WD3003FZEX	13:46
TJ-	gartral: "pastebinit <(ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ /dev/disk/by-uuid/ )"	13:46
TJ-	MoPac: That ldd output looks correct, and is identical to mine (also got FF40 here)	13:47
gartral	TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071125/	13:47
MoPac	TJ-: Do you think my threading issue would be something worth asking devs of glibc about? I never know whether there's real involvement of that code since it's always referenced everywhere...	13:48
TJ-	MoPac: I think you'd need some string evidence of a bug to interest them; pthreads always gets the blame :)	13:49
TJ-	gartral: OK, so the issue is /dev/sda3 ... which according to 'lsblk' is a pure unencrypted swap, but apparently also may have a LUKS header. hang on whilst I test this	13:50
MoPac	TJ-: I gather than libpthreads is developed just as part of glibc, right? It's not a separate project?	13:50
gartral	TJ-: ty, take your time	13:50
Voziv	Anyone know why a zip file would refuse to extract on my ubuntu server using unzip, but when I download it to my windows machine I can extract it without a problem?	13:50
EriC^^	different compression maybe	13:51
TJ-	gartral: OK, can you show me "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sda3)"	13:51
gartral	TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071158/	13:52
TJ-	Voziv: run "file /path/to/file.zip" on it to see what zip version header the file has	13:52
maniacoDpr	Hi. anyb0dy knows why i can not update the kubuntu repository? (with sudo). it says server not found O.o thanks	13:52
k1l_	maniacoDpr: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"?	13:53
cfhowlett	maniacoDpr, what ubuntu number?	13:53
Voziv	EriC^^: I should fill in a bit more info, we have a windows server that pushes zip files to a linux server to transfer some files. Smaller zips extract fine (< 6gb most of the time), but we have had a 20gb zip and a 14gb zip fail now. And the latest is a 5gb zip which is odd since we had a 6gb zip succeeed.	13:53
Voziv	TJ-: b1489716-160f-4dc9-8d1e-c6c617004949.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract	13:53
TJ-	gartral: Yes, that confirms it. sda3 was originally encrypted and now isn't, but has the LUKS header. Do "sudo swapoff /dev/sda3" to begin with	13:54
gartral	TJ-: swap disabled	13:54
maniacoDpr	ops.I mean ubuntu not kubuntu. and i am not right now in front of my computer... but its the 14.0	13:54
TJ-	Voziv: Well, unzip shouldn't have a problem with V2.0 so I'm not sure what is happening unless there's a password on 1 or more of the archive contents	13:55
EriC^^	maniacoDpr: 14.10 utopic or 14.04 trusty lts?	13:55
maniacoDpr	ok. i will ask again in a couple of hours :-) sorry	13:55
TJ-	gartral: OK ... now I have to think carefully :)	13:55
maniacoDpr	thx EriC^^	13:56
gartral	Voziv: can you install dtrx on the server and try using that?	13:56
Voziv	gartral: I used dtrx :), It uses "unzip -q <filename>"	13:56
BlackSky	Hello, I would like to know if y'all know of a modern terminal emulator that will be able to support Ctrl+backspace	13:57
Voziv	I just tried 7z e <filename> and it seems to be working which is great, but now I need to figure out why 7z can do it and unzip can't (or more specifically zip4j, as that's what's failing for us)	13:57
TJ-	Voziv: possibly it was created with 7z which uses an algorithm that isn't in unzip	13:58
Voziv	TJ-: It was created with zip4j, and other zips work fine which is what's baffling me	13:58
Federico	hi	13:58
TJ-	Voziv: On Windows, if 7z has been installed, it's DLL will likely be automatically triggered when that algorithm is found	13:59
TJ-	Voziv: really? Hmmm, no idea then!	13:59
Voziv	That said, I need to wait for this to fully extract	13:59
gartral	Voziv: what does unzip -Z -h on that file return?	13:59
protn	hey folks	14:00
protn	for some reason i cant add russian in Ibus preferences	14:00
protn	any ideas how to do it?	14:00
Voziv	gartral: https://gist.github.com/lrobert/f78cef9aacbf481fac5e	14:01
TJ-	gartral: still figuring it out... deciphering what /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions:do_swap () does	14:02
evergreen	hi	14:03
gartral	TJ-: ahhhaha! you're ftp client wasn't in binary mode when you transferred that file.. either that or something else mangled the file	14:04
whytrytofly	anyone succesfully rinnin a pokerclient?	14:05
evergreen	my multimedia keys [play/pause-next-prv-mute-volUP-volDOWN] not work please help me.	14:05
whytrytofly	runnin	14:05
whytrytofly	evergreen distro?	14:05
gartral	TJ-: sorry	14:05
evergreen	whytrytofly, ubuntu 15.04	14:05
gartral	Voziv: ahhhaha! you're ftp client wasn't in binary mode when you transferred that file.. either that or something else mangled the file	14:05
TJ-	gartral: :D	14:05
Voziv	gartral: I assume that was meant for me. I don't get why 7z can still get through it though	14:05
gartral	Voziv: because 7z will attempt to auto-recover	14:06
Voziv	hmm	14:06
Voziv	I suppose I can checksum to see	14:06
TJ-	gartral: just to avoid any unnecessary hacking here, did this start happening after a reboot	14:07
evergreen	whytrytofly, i think after home director change to chmod 775 this keys not work	14:08
protn	managed	14:08
protn	:D	14:08
farciarz84	hi, I would like to extract all strings like _TRL("Sample text") from my source files and convert them to -> Sample text. Any idea how?	14:08
gartral	TJ-: good question, and I can't rightly answer that as i've rebooted several times, however I CAN confirm it happens several times during an apt-get update/upgrade	14:08
TuquiTuqui	Hi. Is there an app that will allow me to upload text to pastebin quickly?	14:08
TuquiTuqui	(or some other similar site)	14:09
k1l_	!pastebinit \| TuquiTuqui	14:09
ubottu	TuquiTuqui: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command \| pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com	14:09
evergreen	whytrytofly, a time remove .config/dconf/user	14:09
evergreen	whytrytofly, but not true and work keys	14:10
evergreen	my multimedia keys [play/pause-next-prv-mute-volUP-volDOWN] not work please help me.	14:11
TuquiTuqui	does pastebinit only work with already created text files? can I not paste text into the terminal?	14:12
k1l_	TuquiTuqui: you can pipe to pastbinit	14:12
TJ-	gartral: Thing is, everything I've seen in your config is as it ought to be, so from boot the /dev/sa3 should be seen as a LUKS-encrypted partition by udev (which calls blkid to find out) which runs cryptsetup-udev which should create a new LUKS header using a new key from /dev/random, open it and put that device at /dev/mapper/cryptswap1, then do "mkswap /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" and "swapon /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"	14:12
Fuchs	TuquiTuqui: foo \| pastebinit should paste the output of foo	14:13
TuquiTuqui	k1l_: how?	14:13
TuquiTuqui	oh ok let me try	14:13
TuquiTuqui	Didn't work. How do I use the "foo" part?	14:14
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gartral	TJ-: if you want I'm fairly certain I can reliably walk you through the exact steps to reproduce it behavior	14:15
TuquiTuqui	do I type "foo [whole lot of text here] \| pastebin -b http://pastebin.org?	14:15
auronandace	TuquiTuqui: pastebinit not pastebin	14:17
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TJ-	gartral: I'm researching why the package set-up of ecryptfs-utils is reporting the 'no-auto' thing - I can't find anything in the ecryptfs-utils files that writes that message, which suggests it is triggering something in yet another package	14:17
TuquiTuqui	Typo. But I typed it well in terminal and got "sorry, you're trying to upload an empty file"	14:18
Fuchs	TuquiTuqui: ah, you want to _type_ text	14:18
gartral	TJ-: you want my swap's header to disect?	14:19
Fuchs	TuquiTuqui: echo "Whatever text foo bar bla" \| pastebinit	14:19
Fuchs	TuquiTuqui: I thought you were trying to get the output of a program (I took foo as an example) to pastebin, that's a very common usecase	14:19
TuquiTuqui	Fuchs: what about the ouput of a terminal command?	14:19
TuquiTuqui	I mean, a terminal command that already finished	14:20
Fuchs	TuquiTuqui: well, technically you could copy & paste that command and use echo	14:20
TJ-	gartral: I don't think that will make a difference, unless there's something always overwriting /dev/sda3 with a swap instead of using cryptswap1	14:20
OerHeks	TuquiTuqui, something like: df -h \| pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com	14:21
ircmaxell	I'm debating installing on my 7,2 macbook air. Everything works great on liveusb except for suspend (crashes when opening lid). I've yet to find stability info for 7,2, so a bit worried, any experience with it?	14:21
cfhowlett	!mac \| ircmaxell	14:22
ubottu	ircmaxell: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages	14:22
mijk	hi, my wifi connection says "unmanaged"	14:22
artiomjar	how to load grub menu during boot from other file?	14:22
mijk	I can only connect if I hard code into /etc/network/interfaces	14:22
ircmaxell	cfhowlett: I've looked on the documentation. The only info there is for 2014 hardware (6,2).	14:22
TJ-	gartral: what does "sudo cryptsetup isLuks /dev/sda3 && echo Yes \|\| echo No" report?	14:22
TuquiTuqui	When I tryi with "pastebin -b http://pastebin.com" I get "Bad API request, invalid api_dev_key	14:23
TuquiTuqui	"	14:23
TuquiTuqui	*pastebinit	14:23
gartral	TJ-: "No"	14:24
EriC^^	gartral: what's in /etc/crypttab?	14:24
gartral	EriC^^: cryptswap1 UUID=736dd4f1-8f93-492d-a401-0f6a1df10aac /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64	14:24
TJ-	gartral: OK, so something has removed the LUKS header	14:25
EriC^^	gartral: ok, remove that line	14:25
TuquiTuqui	It does work with "paste.ubuntu.com". How do I make it work with pastebin.org?	14:25
gartral	EriC^^: remove or comment out?	14:25
TJ-	gartral: it doesn't explain how sda3 gets mounted as swap though - I suspect this is systemd's doing since it ignores /etc/fstab for thins kind of thing	14:26
EriC^^	TJ-: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-cryptsetup@.service.html	14:26
EriC^^	gartral: comment it out if you'd like or remove it since you won't be using the encrypted swap	14:26
TJ-	EriC^^: removing that is not what is required; the issue is that systemd is making the original partition SWAP rather than doing the encryption first	14:26
EriC^^	TJ-: but it says At early boot and when the system manager configuration is reloaded this /etc/crypttab is translated into systemd-cryptsetup@.service	14:27
TJ-	EriC^^: yes, and it indicates that "systemd-cryptsetup-generator" should be run to translate /etc/crypttab ... I bet that is the bit that is missing	14:28
gartral	EriC^^: but i'd like to have my swap encrypted as gennerally I suspend or hibernate my computer instead of powering down	14:28
MoPac	Noob gdb question: is there a way to load symbols from a different program to the one being run? I'm trying to backtrace a crash in Chrome, and I figure (maybe naively) that the chromium-browser-dbg file might work for it...	14:29
TJ-	gartral: I think this is the key phrase "system manager configuration is reloaded"	14:29
gartral	MoPac: never do that, chome and chromium have different symbol maps as they're compiled from different trees on different computers	14:30
TJ-	MoPac: I doubt it, the offsets will all be incorrect even if the symbols are identical	14:30
MoPac	Fair enough.	14:30
mijk	hi, my wifi connection says "unmanaged" in 15.04, I can only connect by hard coding /etc/network/interfaces	14:33
TuquiTuqui	When I type "echo "abc" \| pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" it returns: http://paste.debian.net	14:34
TJ-	gartral: I'm wondering if we simply make sda3 a LUKS device now that will cure it. As in "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sda3 --cipher=aes-xts-plain64 --offset=1024 --key-file=/dev/urandom --uuid=736dd4f1-8f93-492d-a401-0f6a1df10aac"	14:34
ponig-hp	цц	14:35
TJ-	gartral: then do "sudo update-initramfs -u" in case that is needed to trigger systemd's generator/configuration code	14:35
gartral	TJ-: cryptsetup: Option --offset is supported only for open of plain and loopaes devices.	14:37
TJ-	gartral: I wonder what created that /etc/crypttab then, since I took the options from what you pastebinned	14:38
saurabh	Hi, I'm using 14.04.3 _x86_64.	14:38
saurabh	I installed lamp server using tasksel	14:38
saurabh	I want to install opencart.	14:38
saurabh	I extracted the file in /var/www/	14:39
saurabh	however, I don't know the ip address needed to access opencart in a browser	14:39
gartral	TJ-: the installer	14:39
TJ-	gartral: unless something major has changed I cannot imagine where that option came from though, it doesn't make sense for LUKS devices at all	14:41
saurabh	I referred a tutorial on digital oceans, but I cannot make it work	14:41
gartral	TJ-: it's likely because I had to reinstall because first time through I had enabled FDE by accident and forgot the password, so I reinstalled without FDE telling the installer to "wipe and start fresh"	14:42
TJ-	gartral: I've used very sophisticated LUKs encryption configurations for years but I've not come across what you're seeing, in terms of the raw device not being LUKS even though the config files all match up and declare it to be used as encrypted	14:42
philip_	how do u resize when using lvm	14:43
gartral	philip_: expand or contract?	14:43
TJ-	gartral: FDE shouldn't affect encrypted swap though	14:43
TJ-	philip_: "lvextend'	14:43
philip_	expand	14:43
gartral	TJ-: what about the fact that the swap was partially encrypted by the fde?	14:44
ilikeithard	hi guys - I'm looking for an IT job in Nice/France, maybe some1 can share some pointers where should I start searching?	14:45
mijk	Google.	14:45
mijk	workopolis for France?	14:45
mijk	moster.fr if it exists?	14:45
somsip	!ot	14:45
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	14:45
mijk	monster*	14:46
monster	ha	14:46
TJ-	I think somehow systemd is trying to unlock cryptswap1 just after cryptsetup has done luksFormat on it, but before "luksOpen" ... because as crypsetup knows it is for 'swap' no passphrase should be asked for	14:46
mijk	red or blue shirt today?	14:46
gartral	TJ-: I'll just disable encryption on it	14:47
ilikeithard	ok	14:47
TJ-	gartral: the LUKS header at the start of a raw device is the only way to recognise an encrypted device. systemd obviously must see such header and more-over it must read /etc/crypttab because it even tells you the device-mapper name for it (cryptswap1)	14:47
TJ-	gartral: I think that will be quicker for now :)	14:47
gartral	TJ-: just comment out what's in /etc/crypttab?	14:48
philip_	will like to extend the harddisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071544/	14:48
philip_	http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071544/	14:49
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TJ-	gartral: Yes, and the associated line /etc/fstab ... I think systemd will know enough to carry on making sda3 swap at reboot	14:49
gartral	philip_: you aren't trying to do this on a running system, are you?	14:50
philip_	i want to do this on a running system	14:50
gartral	philip_: abort! never resize a live, running filesystem!	14:51
MonkeyDust	philip_ you can't repair a car while you're driving	14:51
TJ-	philip_: I suspect you may need "pvresize" first, before the VG will see the extra space	14:51
TJ-	gartral: fiddlesticks! LVM is built for online reshape/resize!	14:52
gartral	TJ-: the LVM container, yes... not the filsystems contained inside!	14:52
philip_	it is still a test am doing ,so how can this be done	14:52
TJ-	gartral: Yes... you never done "resize2fs /" ? I do it all the time	14:53
n0rp3d	hey, i know it's not ubuntu related, butcou.d anybody tell me how to search for channels in irc?	14:53
auronandace	!alis	14:53
ubottu	alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list http	14:54
EriC^^	!alis	14:54
MonkeyDust	n0rp3d type /msg alis list blah	14:54
gartral	TJ-: every time I try, the fs breaks.. if you can't tell, i'm a magnet for breaking things that should "Just work"	14:54
TJ-	philip_: Your issue is, /dev/sda is now 838 GiB after adding the additional disk to the hardware RAID-5, but the original partition table only allocates ~560GB ...	14:54
n0rp3d	thanks man	14:54
philip_	TJ yes...so i want to increase the 560GB	14:54
philip_	TJ_:yes...so i want to increase the 560GB	14:55
Fjorgynn	good for you	14:55
gartral	TJ-: wish me luck, going down for reboot	14:55
philip_	TJ-:yes...so i want to increase the 560GB	14:56
Fjorgynn	philip_: STOP repeating yourse¨lf	14:56
TJ-	philip_: So, first you need to use 'gdisk' or 'parted' to add another partition to sda that uses up all that new free space. After you've done that, tell the kernel to re-read the partition table with "kpartx -a" or "partprobe", then you can add the new partition to the existing vg-root with "pvcreate /dev/sdaX" (X being the new partition), and then "vgextend vg-root /dev/sdX"	14:56
TJ-	philip_: at that point the new space is available for 'lvextend'	14:57
philip_	TJ- pls can you kindly give me a step be step command to do that...will really appreciate	14:58
TJ-	philip_: I just did!	14:59
gartral	TJ-: welp... now we've done it... swap's not loading automatically	14:59
Abhijit	anyone using smplayer? i set it as default player. when i click on new songs they open with smplayer only if smplayer is not already running? how to solve it?	14:59
TJ-	gartral: OK, so systemd logs then - it took over all this early-boot stuff	14:59
philip_	since its an ubuntu server i cant use gdisk but rather parted( how will i use the parted command ).thank you	15:00
gartral	TJ-: wait... wait... do you still have my pastbin of /etc/fstab?!	15:00
TJ-	philip_: of course you can use gdisk - it is a command-line tool	15:00
TJ-	gartral: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071054/	15:01
linuxuz3r	is there kindle for ubuntu	15:02
badbodh	Abhijit, you probably set it "enqueue in smplayer" press play to...well...play	15:02
OerHeks	linuxuz3r, ebookreader?	15:02
linuxuz3r	no kindle	15:02
gartral	TJ-: is line 13 supposed to be commented out?!	15:02
philip_	okay....pls tj a step by step like saying, use parted -l then and so on and so	15:03
OerHeks	linuxuz3r, turning ubuntu into a kindle ??	15:03
linuxuz3r	no a kindle app for ubuntu	15:03
Abhijit	badbodh, its not enquied. i checkd its playlist option it do not show the new song i just clicked	15:03
OerHeks	kindle = ebook	15:03
kvgeorge1	Good morning. After yesterday's software update, anytime I watch a video from chrome/firefox/opera, etc. in full-screen, coming out of fullscreen locks the desktop up and it becomes unresponsive to where I have to power-off the machine	15:03
kvgeorge1	Doesn't matter which video driver, browser, location, etc. I use - same results	15:04
badbodh	Abhijit, do you have any other player? set it as default and see if same problem occurs	15:04
OerHeks	linuxuz3r, calibre handles .mobi fine	15:04
Abhijit	OerHeks, then, Windwos = Computer Operating Sysetm.	15:04
Abhijit	badbodh, it works with other players such as vlc. i want to use smplayer	15:04
TJ-	philip_: If you're administering a complex system with hardware RAID and LVM then it is your responsibility to figure out howknow how to use	15:04
OerHeks	Abhijit, he didn't made his question clear, as i understood him fine, he pulled the wrong leg.	15:04
TJ-	philip_: the tools. I've given you a comprehensive outline of what is needed; the rest is up to you.	15:05
MonkeyDust	philip_ you have to be willing to learn something new and do an effort for it	15:06
kvgeorge1	Oh, and I am running 14.04 LTS 64-bit and have a NVidia Quatro 2000 card in it	15:06
Abhijit	OerHeks, okey! no offence though!	15:06
kvgeorge1	*Nvidia Quadro 2000, sorry	15:06
philip_	but hope using a RAID and LVm is good for use	15:07
badbodh	Abhijit, ubuntu and smplayer version? ek bar preferences>playlist me bhi dekh lo.	15:08
Abhijit	:-o	15:08
philip_	can one use a ubuntu desktop live cd for an ubuntu server.	15:09
OerHeks	kvgeorge1, that happens here sometimes too, chrome/firefox: solution, alt tab, to switch desktoppanel, and back to restore.	15:09
Abhijit	badbodh, what if I was from south?	15:10
kvgeorge1	OerHeks, I will try that. This wasn't happening before the update though....is this normal?	15:10
linuxuz3r	OerHeks: there is a web app for it	15:10
badbodh	Abhijit, are you ?	15:11
OerHeks	kvgeorge1, not normal no. it is a little anoying, but with alt-tab switch i can solve it	15:11
Abhijit	no	15:11
kvgeorge1	OerHeks, I will try it.	15:11
kvgeorge1	Hopefully, I won't blow-up and have to power off again	15:11
OerHeks	linuxuz3r, you make no sense .. webap for kindle... you asked for an ereader/ebookreader that handles kindle format	15:12
linuxuz3r	see i dont know if kindle books are drmed	15:12
OerHeks	!info calibre	15:12
linuxuz3r	i need a book that i can read in all os	15:12
ubottu	calibre (source: calibre): e-book converter and library management. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.20.0+dfsg-1 (vivid), package size 19557 kB, installed size 44516 kB	15:12
badbodh	Abhijit, you can also use smplayer or umplayer ppa-s safely, they don't mess with base packages and can be conveniently removed.	15:12
Abhijit	badbodh, sure. will thy that. thanks.	15:13
ahad	\q	15:15
Abhijit	ahad, /part	15:15
ahad	thanks	15:15
ahad	Hey guys, does anyone has an experience of doing pen-testing using aircrack-ng?	15:16
Abhijit	:-(	15:16
Abhijit	ahad, kali and backtrack guys will know better	15:16
OerHeks	ahad, some of us do, but pentesting is offtopic here.	15:16
ahad	so guys can you tell me the right channel for it? that would be of great help :)	15:17
badbodh	OerHeks, shush! we don;'t want no script kiddies ddosing us :P	15:17
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Guest12210	s?	15:23
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Guest12210	拉票	15:26
MonkeyDust	!cn	15:26
ubottu	如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw	15:26
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aryan_	Guy. where can I get support of Telegram APP ?	15:31
MonkeyDust	aryan_ type /msg alis list blah to find a channel	15:32
FrankFromHR	asd	15:41
Rejsende	Hello there, I am running ubuntu as dual-boot on a macbook pro, and having troubles with the wifi setup (although I installed the drivers...) can anyone help with that?	15:43
wereldbol	'evening	15:43
wereldbol	is it possible to write all lines in a function to an external file ?	15:44
wereldbol	i use a function with language strings and like to have it as file also	15:44
MonkeyDust	wereldbol a function?	15:44
MonkeyDust	wereldbol and what are language strings?	15:45
wereldbol	example: function language { langstr001="hello world" }	15:45
Pici	wereldbol: this is #ubuntu, are you sure you're in the right channel?	15:45
MonkeyDust	wereldbol a coding language, or a 'human' language	15:46
wereldbol	well pici... i asked bash but it seems crashed :)	15:46
wereldbol	i use bash script	15:46
Pici	wereldbol: #bash isn't as busy as here, but its a far better place to ask this.	15:46
wereldbol	it looks for a language file at start	15:46
wereldbol	if not found then it use the function language	15:47
wereldbol	if not found a language file i like to export all the lines in that function to a file	15:47
MonkeyDust	what looks for a language? what do you mean by a function?	15:47
MonkeyDust	wereldbol i guess you're not in the right channel	15:47
cfhowlett	wereldbol, this isn't a programming channel. sorry.	15:48
wereldbol	prolly :)	15:48
wereldbol	it was worth a try :)	15:48
MonkeyDust	wereldbol type this /msg alis list blah	15:48
wereldbol	some idea what channel matches my problem ?	15:48
cfhowlett	!alis \| wereldbol	15:49
ubottu	wereldbol: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list http	15:49
MonkeyDust	wereldbol what language are you coding in? C? bash? python? something else?	15:49
wereldbol	i asked #bash but er... they all lost they keyboard i think	15:49
wereldbol	bash	15:49
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wereldbol	someone found his kb back in bash	15:50
wereldbol	i try his answer	15:50
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fellayaboy	could someone help me out. i install isc-dhcp-server configured the file to listen on eth0 and gave a subnet of 192.168.1.0 but no one is getting an ip address...not even the dhcp server itself is getting an ip address from its dhcp	16:01
r00t3d	hi guys	16:01
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Abhijit	fellayaboy, from other lan machine can you ping to your dhcp server?	16:02
fellayaboy	if i set the ip addresses manually i can ping	16:02
Abhijit	ok	16:03
Abhijit	fellayaboy, any other conflicting dhcp serve running on same lan?	16:03
fellayaboy	well the server hasnt gotten an ip address yet	16:03
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fellayaboy	im waiting for the dhcp server to give itself an ip addresss	16:03
fellayaboy	no other dhcp on the lan	16:03
Armadillos	fellayaboy: Does the server have 2 NICs?	16:10
fellayaboy	just one nic	16:10
Armadillos	And does that NIC have a static IP?	16:10
fellayaboy	no i havent given it a static ip	16:10
fellayaboy	i was hoping the dhcp could first give the nic an ip address and then go from there	16:11
Armadillos	That's why then. A DHCP server has to be on a static IP. You can't communicate to a DHCP server that doesn't have a IP	16:11
Armadillos	It can 't.	16:11
fellayaboy	of course	16:11
fellayaboy	couldve sworn the last time i did this the dhcp gave itself an ip address	16:11
Armadillos	It may of gotten it from another DHCP server	16:12
fellayaboy	so i have my server connected to a switch, no router is involved here... if i set the address to 192.168.1.1/24 should i also set the gateway to 192.168.1.1?	16:13
fellayaboy	set the gateway to 192.168.1.1 on the dhcp server itself	16:14
Armadillos	Yes	16:15
fellayaboy	in dhcp.conf should i set option routers 192.168	16:16
fellayaboy	192.168.1.1	16:16
Armadillos	If that's what your router is set to, then yes	16:16
fellayaboy	i have no router really..just this dhcp server connected to a switch...set the dhcp server to a static ip of 192.168.1.1/24	16:17
fellayaboy	thinking router also means gateway	16:17
daniel_	Hi, I have Ubuntu 14 and windows 7 on my lap top but I can find the drivers for all my boards to run on Windows 7. Is it possible to fix this using ubuntu?	16:24
MonkeyDust	daniel_ you mean, use ubuntu to look on the internet for drivers?	16:25
notdaniel	so i picked up one of those usb flash drives that actually ssds with actual ssd controllers, with the intention of using it as a full install i carry around with me and test things out on different machines	16:27
daniel_	No, I tried that. I believe there is no drivers for this boards to run Windows 7. Using Ubuntu everything runs perfectly. I was wondering if I could use the ubuntu "drivers" to make my Windows 7 see my boards	16:27
notdaniel	but when installing 14.04.3, i cannot get it to boot on other machines, or even the one it was installed on once i've removed it.	16:28
notdaniel	even with uuids for drives on a gpt partition with grub installed onto the correct usb drive and with no other drives on the machine	16:28
MonkeyDust	daniel_ no, guess not	16:28
notdaniel	it's fine until i remove it and put it back in, or go to a different machine.	16:28
MonkeyDust	daniel_ windows recognizes only three OS's: Windows, Windows and Windows	16:28
daniel_	Yep, this is just a desperate measure. I don't know what else to do	16:30
daohiep	hey	16:30
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: Are you getting any kind of an error?	16:30
daohiep	yep	16:31
daohiep	#exit	16:31
OerHeks	daniel_, try ##windows ?	16:31
notdaniel	FrankFromHR: nope, install is fine, i can see GRUB on reboot, it's great. but once i remove it and attempt to use somewhere else, GRUB can no longer be found, i can't get the machine to see it at all	16:31
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: and you're sure it's installing grub to the USB drive?	16:31
notdaniel	FrankFromHR: and then even the machine it was installed on cannot see it anymore	16:31
daniel_	Thanks everyone for the attention	16:31
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notdaniel	FrankFromHR: well, i know that it THINKS it is. i am always selecting the correct device. but then again, one issue i had yesterday was i tried running boot-repair and that prevented me from being able to boot from the internal drive already inside the machine	16:32
notdaniel	this usb drive always shows up as /dev/sda even if i'm not booting from it, but shouldnt it not matter with uuids anyway?	16:33
notdaniel	i did an automatic uefi install on gpt to make sure it would use uuids and that i wasnt screwing up partitioning	16:33
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: You might want to try disabling the internal drive and then doing a fresh install to the USB disk, then configured it to use UUIDs for the partitions..	16:33
notdaniel	ive done that	16:34
notdaniel	i did it on machines with no otehr HDs	16:34
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: hmm	16:34
notdaniel	still same issue once removing this install drive	16:34
pokergod	I need to edit a video clip .. it's 3 minutes long, I want to isolate the car accident. What's the best software to edit videos with on ubuntu 15.04	16:34
notdaniel	which is weird, it totally does reboot fine until i remove it and try elsewhere and come back	16:34
cfhowlett	pokergod, no such thing as best. openshot is pretty much point and click	16:34
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: That's really weird.. I wonder if the SSD controller is doing something strange with UUIDs..	16:35
notdaniel	pokergod: try shotcut or pitivi	16:35
Melio	when i try to access a usb thumbdrive. it just lights up and it won't mount	16:35
Melio	any suggestions?	16:35
somsip	pokergod: avconv will extract a segment of video easily	16:35
mcphail	Melio: is it formatted? Have you checked dmesg?	16:35
notdaniel	FrankFromHR: it's possible. i've definitely done portable installs on non-ssd flash drives using uuids and it's been fine, excepting the fact that is's on a flash drive	16:36
Melio	i can check dmesg	16:36
pokergod	thank you	16:36
Melio	it see's it	16:37
dkessel	i would like to use the 3.13 kernel from trusty in my vivid installation. is that possible?	16:37
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: Are you plugging it into the same USB port after removing it?	16:37
NetworkingPro	anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot files created by a network connection?	16:37
Melio	mcphail it's showing up in dmesg as a usb drive	16:37
x4w3	where can i change default init level in ubuntu, please? from 5 to 3, like a server.	16:38
x4w3	/etc/inittab not exists	16:38
WollyOx	I just tried to recover my system from an image i made using part image, but it is not working and i think i am in a lot of trouble. When i try to recover the image i get the message "The partition is to small to be restored: Original partition size:........156814540800 bytes Destination partition size:.....156342681600 bytes"	16:39
Melio	ok here's my dmesg, why isnt unbuntu automounting this. http://pastebin.com/kDEgWQeN	16:40
WollyOx	i dont think my partition has changed in size, i havent changed the parition size. maybe the file is currupt. What is my best course of action, this backup is very important to me.	16:40
OerHeks	Melio, check fdisk -l # is this exfat ?	16:41
TJ-	notdaniel: I wonder, is the USB device using usb_modeswitch to flip the device into SSD mode? hat would explain why it can't be seen after a cold reboot	16:41
Melio	ok	16:41
Vespero	Hey, I've got a custom Unity .desktop file that I made to launch various PDF files easily, but I can't figure out how to make it so I can right-click the icon and switch between open windows (like I can with Chrome)	16:41
Vespero	I guess it has to do with the launcher icon not being associated with evince?	16:42
mcphail	Melio: can you mount /dev/sdc1 manually? is it an exfat drive?	16:42
tgm4883	x4w3: I've not tried to do that, but I wonder if it's as simple as telling lightdm not to start at boot	16:43
Melio	mcphail, i doubt it. I don't know what format this is. it's probably a ubuntu install iso	16:43
Melio	I'll mount it manually see what happens	16:43
mcphail	ok	16:43
Melio	hmm since it doesnt know what FS it is	16:45
Melio	i'm guessing this is unformatted	16:45
mcphail	Melio: or exfat	16:45
Melio	how can i tell	16:45
Melio	try mounting it exfat	16:45
Melio	is that even a mount option?	16:45
mcphail	Melio: I think you need to install some fuse driver for exfat to work. No idea, really. I just reformat them	16:46
mcphail	Melio: if you don't have anything important on the drive, format it to something sensible	16:46
x4w3	tgm4883: i uninstall Xorg, lightgdm, gdm and all relationed with X with --purge for example libX11.* and system/init continue charging X and blocking my runleve 3 :).	16:46
Melio	format it with what?	16:47
Melio	gparted?	16:47
mcphail	Melio: that would be fine	16:47
notdaniel	TJ: i am not sure how to find that out, but i'll check	16:47
notdaniel	FrankFromHR: sometimes yes, somtimes no. one machine has crappy usb ports so i switch it, but on other machines yeah, same problem	16:48
Melio	ok formatting it ext3	16:48
notdaniel	FrankFromHR: shoudn't that not matter with uuids though	16:48
tgm4883	x4w3: oh, you do it in grub http://askubuntu.com/questions/479468/how-do-i-start-unity-manually-upon-boot	16:48
mcphail	!runlevel \| x4w3	16:48
ubottu	x4w3: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.	16:48
Melio	hmm, i want to take images to a printer	16:48
Melio	i might need to format this vfat or something generic the printer software can read	16:48
Vespero	How do I make a .desktop file list currently opened windows in the right-click menu, I guess is what I'm asking	16:49
mcphail	Melio: yep	16:49
TJ-	notdaniel: start the PC from a live ISO, or a regular installation. monitor the kernel log ("tail -f /var/log/kern.log") and insert the USB device. Look for messages that indicate the device appears under an initial USB vendor:product ID and then changes to another	16:49
alket-web	are there intel driver available to download for 14.04 ?	16:50
Vespero	Nevermind, I fixed it (changing the gnome-open commands to evince worked)	16:50
maniacoDpr	is the kubuntu 15.04 good for notebooks (old). Thx	16:51
maniacoDpr	??	16:51
FrankFromHR	notdaniel: It shouldn't, but maybe it's something happening with the usb controller.	16:51
Melio	hmm. i'll format it ntfs	16:51
notdaniel	TJ-: ok i'll do that now. it doesnt matter if the flash drive in question has ubuntu on it, right? i reformatted it but should still activate the same way	16:51
Melio	cause fat3 errors	16:51
OerHeks	alket-web, intel is standard supported in the kernel.	16:51
SimplySeth	when creating a local repo, what directory path is the installer looking for ? /ubuntu/? or /dists/? thanks	16:51
WollyOx	Could someone help me identify partition numbers 2,4,5. i am unsure of what they are and how i can find more info about them: http://pastebin.com/CrMNM7Gk	16:51
alket-web	OerHeks: but intel releases some new updates as third party	16:51
mcphail	maniacoDpr: give it a try. If you need something lighter it is easy to switch	16:51
mcphail	maniacoDpr: no pm please	16:52
TJ-	notdaniel: correct	16:52
maniacoDpr	ok, sorry	16:52
mcphail	maniacoDpr: no problem. The beauty of ubuntu is, if you don't like it, all you have lost is the half-hour it takes to install	16:53
maniacoDpr	mcphail: that's true	16:54
mcphail	maniacoDpr: and if one desktop manager is too heavy, you can switch to another. A lot of people recommend lubuntu. I have never tried it	16:54
x4w3	tgm4883 mcphail i configurated grub with text and console modes and without quiet splash (i don't know if it's important comment line and not leave empty GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""), i will try repair grub, or use upstart instead of systemv	16:55
mcphail	maniacoDpr: but you can change kubuntu to lubuntu with a simple command	16:55
notdaniel	TJ-: http://pastebin.com/eePSpYMG	16:55
notdaniel	so that looks like a yes	16:55
maniacoDpr	mcphail: how?	16:55
ndh	I hate Miggers	16:55
notdaniel	or not actually?	16:56
OerHeks	!ot \| ndh	16:56
ubottu	ndh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	16:56
mcphail	maniacoDpr: "sudo apt-get install whateverotherdesktopyouwant", log out and log back in to the other	16:56
Pici	OerHeks: we don't want that crap in !ot either	16:56
TJ-	notdaniel: that's a straight-forward USB Mass Storage device	16:56
OerHeks	Pici, sorry, i should have used !language or !coc	16:56
maniacoDpr	mcphail: aha, ok! Sorry, i am new with linux. and i have used a cople of times. and now i want to learn more. thx for your time :-)	16:57
loa	why some windows don't remeber their size and position.	16:57
TJ-	notdaniel: the other idea that occurred to me was if it's installed as UEFI but all the other PCs and the default boot on the same PC is BIOS	16:57
loa	can i fix this?	16:57
mcphail	maniacoDpr: enjoy!	16:57
loa	for example gnome terminal, steam...	16:57
reisio	loa: remember after what?	16:57
loa	reisio, after i change them.	16:58
loa	reisio, for example i want terminal fullscreen	16:58
notdaniel	TJ-: most definitely all the machines in question are uefi, and it also doesnt explain why the machine i use to install it cannot do so either after removing and coming back	16:58
reisio	so you want to load in the same place each time despite having moved them?	16:58
mcphail	loa: steam is a "unique" piece of software. It will always do its own thing. It doesn't follow normal window management rules	16:58
reisio	you can force anything you like of course	16:59
loa	mcphail, ok... go away steam... what about default terminal app?	16:59
reisio	with devilspie, or wmctrl, or other things	16:59
loa	i think i tried devilspie already.	16:59
mcphail	loa: not sure. I'm not at an ubuntu box just now to check but I think it opens in 80-column mode by default	16:59
notdaniel	TJ-: i can try it without to be safe i suppose? it'll still do uefi as long as it's gpt yeah	17:00
notdaniel	er, uuids	17:00
mcphail	loa: there may be a flag to open it fullscreen	17:00
mcphail	loa: I suppose 80-column mode is what most people expect when they open a terminal	17:01
loa	mcphail, it starts exactly like this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2015.08.13-20%3A02%3A12.png	17:02
mcphail	loa: I can't access that link from this machine, unfortunately.	17:03
SimplySeth	when creating a local repo, what directory path is the installer looking for ? /ubuntu/? or /dists/? thanks	17:05
mcphail	loa: I'm guessing it will be a default 80-column window. You can try changing the default profile as that may have an option for fullscreen	17:05
cxd13	what program can i install that will let me change DNS servers through GUI in mate?	17:05
OerHeks	loa, the size in rows/colomns can be set in preferences > profile, not the position AFAIK	17:05
maniacoDpr	ok. The kubuntu 15.04 doesn't rulez in my CompaqMini :_( the install is trapped	17:05
loa	reisio, ok... thx for devilspie... i set it to maximize it, verticaly and horizontaly.	17:06
reisio	loa: gj	17:06
Cs123	Hello! Can you recommend some package & tool for ubuntu to get started with video (stream) mofication project? C# / C++ Where I might find support?	17:08
loa	Cs123, what mean "mofication"?	17:09
Abhijit	Cs123, ffmpeg?	17:09
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Cs123	I'd like to take live feed from web-cam, and filter some high values out for example...	17:09
reisio	guessing modification	17:09
reisio	Cs123: probably #ffmpeg	17:10
x4w3	exists chkconfig in ubuntu?	17:11
Cs123	reisio: thanks - but not packed video, but live feed from my web-cam, which I modify and show on the screen..	17:12
ishitaka	I have a question why do i not get but 3 things under system in the software center?	17:12
reisio	Cs123: #ffmpeg	17:12
reisio	x4w3: ask apt-file	17:12
Pici	x4w3: no	17:12
reisio	ishitaka: looking for something else?	17:12
loa	x4w3, update-rc.d	17:12
Cs123	ok, THanks, I'll look into it..	17:12
ishitaka	Im looking for nmap and other programs and its not allowing me to downlaod them because they are not showing up?	17:13
x4w3	loa: i use it, tq	17:13
loa	can somebody explain me about initramfs scripts. I create one scripts in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-top and when i run update-initramfs -u i see that my script executes in my current environment, why it is happen?	17:14
loa	for example i write in that script echo 1 > /tmp/test.txt and when i run update-initramfs -u i see that file appear in /tmp/	17:15
reisio	ishitaka: how're you looking?	17:16
ishitaka	All of the normal programs that you download are not there under the Software center how do i get them to show up? because my other computer they show up? Any help guys and gals?	17:16
ishitaka	Through the Ubuntu Software Center icon gui	17:16
telboon	ishitaka: if you're looking for nmap, i installed it using sudo apt-get install nmap	17:17
telboon	ishitaka: type that in terminal	17:17
ishitaka	it wont let me	17:17
telboon	what did it show?	17:17
SchrodingersScat	I have a runaway rsync process, kill -9 does nothing, what do I do?	17:17
ishitaka	invalid operation nmap	17:18
SchrodingersScat	oh, it ended, nvm.	17:18
telboon	you missed the "install"	17:18
Abhijit	ishitaka, first do sudo apt-get update	17:18
telboon	sudo apt-get install nmap	17:18
reisio	SchrodingersScat: :)	17:19
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Dark_cloud	Hey how to run gcc on linux	17:30
Dark_cloud	any command	17:30
Abhijit	Dark_cloud, gcc test.c	17:30
MANNYLNJ	Hello, I have a friend with a laptop that has a failing hard drive. I want to run ubuntu on it from a flash drive but it is slow . Dmesg shows the drive errors , how do I make it ignore the failing drive?	17:36
Johnny_Linux	take the drive out	17:37
MANNYLNJ	Johnny_linux I can't some moron super glued the drive cover on	17:38
Johnny_Linux	D`oh!	17:38
Johnny_Linux	make the bios boot to usb drive 1rst order	17:39
MANNYLNJ	Johnny_linux I am doing that. Ubuntu is seeing the hard drive and trying to mount it	17:40
Johnny_Linux	cut the cord	17:40
Johnny_Linux	lol	17:40
Johnny_Linux	long shot, allow disc utility fix errors	17:41
MonkeyDust	SchrodingersScat use rsync --progress to know how much time remains	17:42
MANNYLNJ	Johnny_linux is there a way from the live USB drive I made to remove Ata support	17:43
Johnny_Linux	not sure	17:44
fellayaboy	for my dhcp server i keep getting "no subnet declaration for eth0" my dhcp server is just a simple laptop connected to a layer 2 switch(no router) & no dns server.... could someone give me a proper configuration	17:44
Johnny_Linux	just break the glue sel and take it out	17:44
Johnny_Linux	seal	17:44
reisio	MANNYLNJ: yes, but why	17:44
MANNYLNJ	Reisio to stop ubuntu from trying to access a failing drive that can not be removed. Trying to run ubuntu from a flash drive	17:45
Armadillos	fellayaboy: What does your /etc/network/interfaces file show?	17:45
regedit	how does this work http://superuser.com/a/271319 and how can i make it work if i cant run mkdir (read only filesystem) ?	17:46
fellayaboy	auto lo; iface lo inet loopback Armadillos	17:46
Vespero	I'm messing around with unity launcher shortcuts and I want a custom action name to be indented. Anyone have an idea how to work this out?	17:46
Armadillos	fellayaboy: Do you not have anything in there for eth0?	17:46
fellayaboy	do i need to declare the values for eth0 on there?	17:46
fellayaboy	Armadillos, well im using the GUI. the network manager	17:46
ioria	no	17:47
Armadillos	network manager and dhcp are not going to play well together	17:47
SchrodingersScat	MonkeyDust: weird thing was --progress wasn't giving me anything, was reading from a webdav so I'm thinking it took a performance hit, just working with the remote fs probably.	17:47
fellayaboy	ahh tahts the freaking crap then Armadillos	17:47
Vespero	Okay, spamming the word spacer (not space) works	17:47
fellayaboy	i should've went with ubuntu server 15.04 instead of desktop... well are there any configurations i must do to knock off network manager	17:48
Armadillos	fellayaboy: Here's mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12072927/	17:48
Myhro	I have a machine where update-grub takes 5-10 mins to run. Any ideas on how to debug what step is making it take so long?	17:48
Armadillos	fellayaboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager	17:49
Cybermonky	Guten Abend	17:50
fellayaboy	Armadillos, thanks	17:50
Armadillos	Yep	17:50
Cybermonky	Weiß eventuell jemand warum das Paket "Livestreamer" nicht mehr in den Paketquellen vorhanden ist? Nutze Xubuntu Trusty und bin der Meinung das da auch Livestreamer in den Paketquellen vorhanden war...	17:51
demhlyr	Cybermonky: https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer unten bei Quickstart schauen, livestreamer kann man per python pip installieren	17:52
MonkeyDust	!de	17:53
ubottu	In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!	17:53
Cybermonky	Danke demhlyr	17:53
stacks88	by running ubuntu for server only, no gui, is my box sending any information or data to ubuntu? and if so, where can i change this so it sends no information	17:54
Cybermonky	demhlyr: Danke nochmal :-)	17:56
Armadillos	stacks88: No.	17:56
mmmax	could someone please tell me what version of the kernel is the latest version of the mainstream ubuntu using? with the system fully apt-get upgraded	17:56
Cybermonky	ups	17:56
demhlyr	cybermonky: kein problem, schaue selbst damit ab und zu streams	17:56
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skoude	ANybody had problems with canonical distribution that landscape fails on Generate juju metadata (in 98% of installation of openstack).	18:01
tgm4883	mmmax: you can get that info from packages.ubuntu.com	18:06
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Senji	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_LxJWHnjSI	18:07
mmmax	tgm4883: oh brilliant, thank you very much!	18:09
Dark_cloud	Using GCC compiler is so hard to do and so lengthy work instead using Turbo C is better any suggestion	18:10
MonkeyDust	Dark_cloud suggestion, apart from the one you just gave?	18:11
Dark_cloud	MonkeyDust just kidding want to grab attention of user Although i have few hands on gcc so i have to know quite well	18:13
snowkidind	ok i had a debian server but i want a fresh start. I have a maching with a brand new ssd and have concluded that i want to try ubuntu. Thing is i want both server and desktop so I am not quite sure which one to begin with	18:15
tgm4883	snowkidind: well, server and desktop are really the same. The desktop just has additional software (like a DE)	18:16
tgm4883	snowkidind: at the base, they are both the same	18:16
snowkidind	ok so i still have to put on apache etc	18:16
snowkidind	why would someone get the server an not the desktop?	18:17
tgm4883	snowkidind: because most people don't run a graphical environment on a server	18:17
snowkidind	reasonable.	18:17
tgm4883	snowkidind: the server installer does allow you to install some server apps (such as apache), but you can install those later as well	18:18
tgm4883	snowkidind: what's your reason for puting a graphical environment on there?	18:18
snowkidind	basically setting up LAMP but i need to send emails and my isp blocks port 25. hoping for better luch than deb	18:18
snowkidind	i rarely turn it on but i occasionally do	18:19
snowkidind	i look at my logfiles with it mostly	18:19
snowkidind	the monitor for the machine helps as a motivation as well	18:19
tgm4883	snowkidind: I'd install server, then install a graphical environment (but not a *buntu-desktop package) then just start it when necessary	18:20
snowkidind	you think it weighs that heavily on a development server?	18:21
snowkidind	its not getting many external requests at all	18:22
tgm4883	snowkidind: no, but I like to keep production and staging as close as I can (I suppose I wouldn't actually install a graphical enviroment there, but instead just SSH in and access what I need from the command line)	18:22
snowkidind	im using appledouble most of the time	18:23
tgm4883	yea I don't know what that is	18:23
snowkidind	just a way to have the linux directory structiure on my regular machine without terminal - right in the finder	18:24
snowkidind	so i edit the files on my mac software (im a bbedit / xcode guy) and save directly to the server	18:25
snowkidind	without ftp	18:25
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reezy	exit	18:34
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tom30	Speak Spanish???	18:47
Pici	!es \| tom30	18:47
ubottu	tom30: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.	18:47
xubuntu45d	thanks.	18:48
xubuntu45d	Hi. I'm wondering if anyone could help me with my wifi issue. My internet connection keeps disconnecting. Sometimes I just need to disable then re-enable wifi to get it to work. At other times I need to reboot it to get the wifi to work again.	18:48
reisio	maybe your wireless router is a big steaming pile	18:49
jhutchins	xubuntu45d: What's your signal strength?	18:49
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Guest22787	hai newby here , just watching	18:51
anonymous	.test	18:52
ObrienDave	xubuntu45d, how far away is the router?	18:52
fabrizio_	Hi !	18:55
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milp	Hi everyone, I'm having trouble with fstrim on my 425Gb ssd. It runs every boot through rc.local and every time it takes up around 15+ minutes and trims 100s of gigabytes. I just rebooted twice in row and it still trimmed 154.8 gigabyte. Could anyone help me with this issue please?	19:06
Danskmand	Howdy :-) - I want to install syslog-ng on my servers using puppet....Now I see that syslog-ng has a open bug with this since ano 2006 - cannot install syslog-ng because it has unmet dependencies ( syslog-ng : Depends: syslog-ng-core (>= 3.5.3), ....)	19:06
MonkeyDust	Danskmand there's also #ubuntu-server	19:07
Danskmand	I can install syslog-ng by first installing syslog-ng-core and then install syslog-ng. But thats not easy in puppet....	19:08
elacheche_anis	Hello guys! I'm a heavy user of http://wiki.ubuntu.com and I need to automate adding some content to a specific wiki page.. Is there a way to script that?!	19:09
Danskmand	MonkeyDust: Okay, I'll ask there too (but if someone in here knows the answer, he's most welcome to answer ;-)	19:09
FrankFromHR	asd	19:10
pbx	elacheche_anis, personally i'd put "automated updates of public wiki pages" in the category of "if you should be doing this you should definitely be able to figure it out yourself"	19:10
MonkeyDust	FrankFromHR you already said asd, it works, we see you	19:11
elacheche_anis	pbx, what's that supposed to mean! x)	19:11
FrankFromHR	MonkeyDust: just wondering if my session died again	19:11
MonkeyDust	FrankFromHR use #test for that sort of thing	19:12
FrankFromHR	MonkeyDust: I'll get right on that..	19:12
pjotter	Was I still nver a tad too blue?	19:13
ObrienDave	is this "we support everything BUT ubuntu day?" ;P	19:13
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pbx	elacheche_anis, i mean that there are all sorts of ways that kind of thing can go wrong and/or be abused. especially if somebody just hands you a script.	19:14
ObrienDave	AHEM, this is NOT wikipedia support	19:15
elacheche_anis	pbx, if someone "shares" a way with me I'll be sure to understand it before pushing it to "production" and I'll hack that code to meet my needs, that's for sure	19:15
UFO69	any one from Microsoft?	19:16
wileee	!topic \| UFO69	19:16
ubottu	UFO69: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic	19:16
UFO69	OK	19:16
FrankFromHR	ObrienDave: Wait, you mean this isn't #BestBuySupport ?	19:16
Pici	UFO69: probably not. If you're looking for Windows support, there is ##windows, but that doesn't have microsoft employees either.	19:16
UFO69	any Windows chanel?	19:16
wileee	UFO69, ##windows	19:16
UFO69	where can i buy new windows?	19:17
ObrienDave	home depot	19:17
FrankFromHR	ObrienDave: oh good, I had some questions about lag bolts..	19:18
wileee	UFO69, 'Heads Up' this is not a windows channel but ubuntu support.	19:18
FrankFromHR	UFO69: you can also probably buy windows from microsoft.com ... or Home Depot..	19:18
ObrienDave	FrankFromHR, unless there was a shift in the galactic space/time continuum, i don't think so ;P	19:18
UFO69	and how much cost new windows?	19:19
Jordan_U	UFO69: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Your next comment about Windows will earn you a ban.	19:20
MonkeyDust	UFO69 wrong channel	19:20
UFO69	OK	19:20
UFO69	this is microsoft chanel?	19:20
Jordan_U	UFO69: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.	19:21
MonkeyDust	UFO69 stop	19:21
Pici	/70/70	19:24
Tynach	Bit of a strange problem here. Plymouth (boot splash) works fine, but TTYs are black/blank. I can type in TTYs and manage to log in, and I can send commands (which work; like 'sudo shutdown -r now'), but I can't see any of the text.	19:26
wileee	Tynach, Have you tweaked the resolution in grub, or in general?	19:27
Tynach	Upon further inspection, it's trying to use the 'vesafb' framebuffer. The kernel's config file indeed says that the vesafb kernel module is built into the kernel... But modprobe's modules.builtin does NOT list it.	19:27
Tynach	wileee, that was the first thing I tried. I also tried various combinations of the different things in /etc/default/grub.	19:28
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wileee	Tynach, Ah, just curious, not an answer here is all.	19:28
Tynach	Such as different settings for GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX, as well as using nomodeset and video=stuff.	19:29
Tynach	It doesn't seem to want to even attempt to use uvesafb instead, which is a loadable kernel module (rather than statically built).	19:29
ioria	Tynach, nvidia ?	19:30
Tynach	AMD.	19:30
Tynach	Under the open source drivers, the same thing happens, except it takes a few seconds for the TTY, and then it shows up. Switching from one TTY to another has the same delay the first time, but afterward the switch is instant. So from TTY1 to TTY2, there's a delay, but going back to TTY1 is instant, and then from there back to TTY2 is instant.	19:31
Tynach	Under fglrx, they never actually show up.	19:31
Tynach	They DID show up under fglrx before the upgrade to 15.04.	19:31
ioria	Tynach, GRUB_TERMINAL=console is commented ?	19:31
Tynach	ioria, yes. That line is commented.	19:33
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ioria	Tynach, and GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 ?	19:33
Tynach	No, I have it set to 1920x1080. Because that worked on 14.10.	19:34
Jordan_U	Tynach: If you're not using proprietary drivers then make sure that you're also not passing "nomodeset" as a kernel parameter.	19:34
Tynach	Jordan_U, I am using proprietary drivers.	19:34
Tynach	Jordan_U, I've also tried with and without nomodeset.	19:34
Jordan_U	Tynach: Have you tried with the open source drivers and without nomodeset? You can't use Kernel Mode Setting and the proprietary ATI drivers at the same time (at least not yet, with AMDGPU you will be able to and things will generally be a lot nicer).	19:35
Tynach	Jordan_U, I already answered that. I'll repost.	19:36
Tynach	Under the open source drivers, the same thing happens, except it takes a few seconds for the TTY, and then it shows up. Switching from one TTY to another has the same delay the first time, but afterward the switch is instant. So from TTY1 to TTY2, there's a delay, but going back to TTY1 is instant, and then from there back to TTY2 is instant.	19:36
ioria	Tynach, i'd try to uncomment the first and the second , restore the second to original value sudo update-grub ... and if it fails reverse it ... but never occurred to me... so it's just an idea	19:36
Tynach	ioria, could you be more specific than 'the first and the second'?	19:37
ioria	Tynach, GRUB_TERMINAL=console 1°	19:37
ioria	Tynach, and GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 2°	19:37
Tynach	ioria, I'll try that, but if it works, it's still not a solution. In 14.10, I was able to have a full 1920x1080 screen resolution in the TTYs, and even here in 15.04 Plymouth and Grub are able to use 1920x1080.	19:39
ioria	Tynach, i see	19:40
ope-	hey guys I have an acer R3-131T and i cant get ubuntu to boot the live usb. I am not sure what the problem is	19:41
Jordan_U	Tynach: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" after booting with the open source drivers, and without "nomodeset".	19:41
Tynach	ioria, would 800x600 be acceptable as well, or should I stick with 640x480?	19:42
Tynach	Also, it might be worth noting that I have a dual-monitor setup.	19:42
Jordan_U	Tynach: Fair warning, I don't personally want to try to troubleshoot the case where you're using proprietary drivers, so making it work with the open drivers and KMS is what my goal is.	19:43
ioria	Tynach, see Jordan_U comment	19:43
Tynach	Jordan_U, it already works fine with the open source drivers, minus a few seconds delay before the TTY shows up for the first time.	19:43
Jordan_U	Tynach: Ahh, when you said "Under the open source drivers, the same thing happens" I interpreted that to mean that with the open source drivers you also couldn't see any text when switching to a tty.	19:44
Tynach	Jordan_U, I suppose I shouldn't have said 'same thing happens', but rather, that the behavior is still different than it was in 14.10.	19:45
Tynach	Of course, back in 14.10, my card wasn't supported by the open source drivers. Only the closed source ones.	19:45
Tynach	R9 290X	19:45
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OneM_Industries	How do I set the time that backups auto backup?	19:50
wileee	OneM_Industries, I forget the onboard apps name, but does'nt it have a preferences?	19:55
wileee	doesn	19:56
MonkeyDust	OneM_Industries what do you use to backup?	19:58
* wileee turns on the cheezy waiting music		20:00
OneM_Industries	Sorry, got called away.	20:01
OneM_Industries	I use the backups utility, I think it is called deja dup.	20:01
MonkeyDust	OneM_Industries it looks like deja dup is not advanced or complicated enough to set specific times ... look for a differnet way to !backup	20:02
wileee	OneM_Industries, looks like MonkeyDust is correct there.	20:05
Joel	I turned mouse sensitivty all the way up in the UI, not fast enough, what next?	20:06
wileee	OneM_Industries, I used a 3rd party called timeshift as a test, worked nicely, good stuff in the ubuntu repos however.	20:06
wileee	Joel, Check out xset I use xset mouse 1 1 in the cli to set mine, that is a slow down command	20:07
wileee	# up is faster	20:08
wileee	Joel, man xset gives info	20:08
Joel	wileee, doesn't seem to make anything faster despite the values I pass it	20:10
wileee	Joel, Not sure beyond that, better help is in order here. ;)	20:12
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joijmo	has anyone had success installing photoshop to ubuntu yet? can't seem to install the visual C++ 2008 exe	20:19
MonkeyDust	!wine \| joijmo	20:19
ubottu	joijmo: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	20:19
k1l_	yes, see what wine appdb says about it	20:19
wileee	Joel, Testing it, first # is speed 2nd sensitivity, if that might help	20:20
ubuntiste-msakni	joijmo, I did that once, someone packaging an EXE for wine	20:20
ubuntiste-msakni	let me check my history	20:20
nikitha	hi, unable to install any windows applications under wine in ubuntu 15.04 its giving out Runtime error 204 at 00CFXXXXX, any help or alternative to wine ?	20:20
wileee	nikitha, Some us playonlinux	20:20
OerHeks	nikitha, playonlinux is worth a try	20:20
wileee	use*	20:20
joijmo	I know how to use wine, I'm just unsuccessful in installing this particular file	20:21
joijmo	monkeydust	20:21
nikitha	joijmo: recent wine is issue, in past same windows applications ran ok, what a sudden change	20:22
joijmo	nikitha: hmm, so looks like they wrote more code to wine? :p more code = more bugs	20:22
nikitha	joijmo: its showing as game for playonlinux in ubuntu software centre	20:24
joijmo	nikitha: photoshop??	20:24
nikitha	joijmo: right now ms office	20:25
Jordan_U	joijmo: As the ubottu factoid stated, you should join #winehq for help installing Windows applications.	20:25
joijmo	thanks Jordan_U	20:27
Jordan_U	joijmo: You're welcome.	20:27
nikitha	Jordan_U: joijmo: had fired my query in #winehq and here at same time	20:27
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Umeaboy	Hi!	20:58
Umeaboy	I have a friend that bought a brand new laptop from Acer.	20:59
reisio	Umeaboy: neato	20:59
Umeaboy	It came preinstalled with Windows 8 and I have disabled Secure Boot, but the installation for Ubuntu 15.04 x86_64 doesn't work.	21:00
Umeaboy	It get to the dots and as it loads the screen gets black.	21:01
Umeaboy	Windows works fine to boot into and use.	21:01
Jordan_U	Umeaboy: Do you know how to remove the "quiet" and "splash" kernel parementers when booting the LiveCD/USB?	21:02
Umeaboy	Yes, I did that.	21:02
Umeaboy	I'm not at home at the moment so can't investigate much.	21:04
Jordan_U	Umeaboy: Do you see messages at boot when you do? If so, what is the last message printed?	21:04
Umeaboy	Thou I saw an -110 error with the mmcblock	21:04
Umeaboy	I hope they don't matter,	21:04
MonkeyDust	Umeaboy better come back when you have the laptop with you	21:05
Umeaboy	I'm using it now, but I'm at a fast food restaurant so I'll do more when I get home,	21:05
Jordan_U	Umeaboy: mmcblk generally refers to an SD card.	21:06
Umeaboy	Talk to ya later?	21:06
Umeaboy	Yes, it has a imbedded memory card instead of a HDD.	21:06
Umeaboy	Don't ask me why.	21:06
Umeaboy	embedded I mean.	21:07
Umeaboy	I'll be back within 30 minutes.	21:07
Umeaboy	Bye for now.	21:07
techshop	d	21:11
anna_	Wasn't it amazing?	21:21
reisio	yes	21:22
user1254	ls	21:22
tobyj	question: I'm setting up a server in vmware and I'm having some issues with networking	21:36
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tobyj	I added a new network adapter, but ubuntu isn't detecting that as an interface	21:36
tobyj	not in ifconfig	21:37
surgy	hello	21:37
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surgy	i need a suggestion on software. i want to play music with my keyboard :)	21:37
tobyj	http://puu.sh/jAxgQ/619c45f8e6.png this is in the output of lshw -C network	21:38
wafflejock	surgy: what version of ubuntu?	21:38
tobyj	how do I enable it?	21:38
surgy	wafflejock, kubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19	21:38
wafflejock	surgy: vmpk package might be what you want	21:38
wafflejock	surgy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/vmpk	21:38
tobyj	if I try to bring it up it just says unknown interface eth1	21:39
tobyj	...any help?	21:39
TechMonger	if i have 3 groups, A,B, and C. how do i give read and wright permissions to groups A and B and only read permissions to group C?	21:39
surgy	wafflejock, it looks that way but when you read the discritpion it says "it doesnt produce any sound by itself."	21:40
TechMonger	i seem to only be able to change permisions for the group that owns the file	21:40
wafflejock	surgy: right you need qsynth to actually make the sounds	21:40
OerHeks	surgy, take a look at ubuntu-studio softwarelist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList	21:40
wafflejock	surgy: midi works by just sending little messages of how long a key was pressed and what note it corresponds to and how quickly it was pressed (for real midi keyboards)	21:40
Jordan_U	TechMonger: By using ACLs rather than classic UNIX permissions.	21:41
wafflejock	surgy: if you get qsynth you also need to get a sound font file and load it in there	21:41
wafflejock	surgy: I just got done doing this with a real midi keyboard	21:41
TechMonger	Jordan_U, what is acl?	21:41
wafflejock	!acl \| TechMonger	21:41
wafflejock	access control lists	21:41
tobyj	?	21:41
wafflejock	TechMonger: it gives you more granular control over multiple users and group permissions on files	21:41
TechMonger	hmm	21:42
Jordan_U	TechMonger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs	21:42
surgy	wafflejock, OerHeks i like a lot of those packages in the studio distro.... can i just install all of the ubuntu studio programs without messing up my kubuntu install?	21:42
TechMonger	oh wow...	21:42
TechMonger	permissions are such a pain	21:42
wafflejock	surgy: yeah I considered this too, not sure if you can have the packages from ubuntu-studio installed without messing things up since jackd and pulseaudio seem to have some amount of conflict (there is a package that's supposed to resolve this but I ended up needing to manually kill pulseaudio or jackd to switch)	21:43
OerHeks	surgy, sure, i personally use ubuntustudio-photography package, gimp darktable and such	21:43
wafflejock	surgy: both pulseaudio and jackd want to take control of the audio hardware, by default you're using pulseaudio but I needed jackd to hook the keyboard up to qsynth	21:43
surgy	wafflejock, yeah thats too much....i just want to mess around and im a little burnt from the effort it took to setup my graphics tablet lol	21:43
tobyj	is there anyone here that can help with my problem?	21:44
wafflejock	surgy: yeah took me a few hours of fiddling... lots of fun with a real keyboard though... the sound font files have tons of fun noises	21:44
Jordan_U	tobyj: If anyone watching the channel can help, they will.	21:45
zhxk	hello, how to monitor every ports traffic	21:45
wafflejock	zhxk: can use wireshark or tcpdump, depends on what you're trying to monitor...maybe ntop	21:45
zhxk	wafflejock, can i manage the traffic?	21:46
surgy	wafflejock, yeah if i had a real keyboard id definately be down...... but i was just gonna mess around.... i suppose i can wait. i was just hoping to install a package or two and start playing	21:46
wafflejock	surgy: yeah it's not a terrible amount of work really just a matter of getting a few tools in place to help connect the midi note generating thing to the part that synthesizes the sounds, but yeah not just a single package install thing was more reading than doing for me	21:47
wafflejock	zhxk: can you be more specific about how you want to manage it? I'm not super familiar with network management tools available in terms of blocking sites... I know you can configure iptables to block connections in or out but there might be something simpler/higher someone else here knows of	21:48
wafflejock	surgy: maybe could do a LiveUSB of ubuntu studio	21:50
arooni	hey everyone; anyone use radiotray here ? i'm on ubuntu 14.04 and i cant get radiotray's bookmarks.xml to be edited. any ideas on how to fix? i make changes but nothing happens	21:52
k1l_	arooni: i did use the right-click menu from radiotray	21:52
wafflejock	arooni: typically config files are read at startup are you restarting the program after edits?	21:53
arooni	k1l_, i think thats gonna hve to bwe the way to do it; wish there was a way to edit bookmarks.xml	21:53
k1l_	arooni: did you restart it? try to start it from a terminal and see if it says an error there	21:53
arooni	i even removed the bookmarks.xml from /usr/share/radiotray and it still works. i also tried grepping for a new menu item i added via the app and i cant find where radiotray is writing to	21:54
arooni	yes i tried restarting	21:54
surgy	wafflejock, maybe	21:55
arooni	its obviously ignoring the /usr/share/radiotray/bookmarks.xml	21:55
k1l_	~/.local/share/radiotray/bookmarks.xml	21:55
k1l_	arooni: did you try the "reload bookmarks" setting?	21:56
xrisk	hi people can you tell me how to get the latest version of g++ ?	21:56
tobyj	Problem solved	21:57
arooni	a ha!	21:57
arooni	so why was there a /usr/share/radiotray directory AND a ~/.local/share/radiotray directory	21:57
arooni	for the same app?	21:57
arooni	with seemingly identical files	21:57
wafflejock	arooni: typically user settings vs system wide	21:57
arooni	so apps typically look in .local or /usr/ for config settings?	21:57
Jordan_U	xrisk: What is your end goal?	21:57
wafflejock	arooni: so shared settings are used if user specific isn't found	21:57
k1l_	arooni: it uses the users setting in the users home.	21:58
arooni	so if i want to make app config changes	21:58
arooni	i should always look first in ~/.local	21:58
xrisk	Jordan_U: I installed Ubuntu 15.04 andthe version of g++ is has does not support some of the new C++ features.	21:58
wafflejock	arooni: yeah ~/.config or ~/.local somewhere in your home folder will be user specific settings	21:58
k1l_	arooni: its a user setting. so its in the users home.	21:58
Jordan_U	xrisk: What features specifically are you missing?	21:58
arooni	didnt see any of ~.local/ in dpkg --listfiles radiotray	21:58
wafflejock	arooni: because each user has their own home	21:58
arooni	im the only one who uses this machine	21:58
arooni	but i guess that doesnt matter	21:59
wafflejock	arooni: yeah it can create those files dynamically	21:59
xrisk	Jordan_U: For example, the `auto` iterator.	21:59
k1l_	arooni: if "your mother" on your pc wants other channels to be in radiotray it doesnt work with only one config file :)	21:59
arooni	learning something new every day	21:59
wafflejock	arooni: lots of programs will make a config for the user if one isn't present the first time they run	21:59
wafflejock	or anytime they run	21:59
arooni	bingo!	22:01
arooni	moved the bookmarks folder over to ~/local/blah and it worked great	22:01
arooni	thanks folks	22:01
hydral	couocu	22:01
hydral	Our conversation it is crypted,?	22:02
Cebot\|work	hi. anyone around using a displaylink based dockingstation?	22:02
wileee	hydral, nope	22:02
wileee	Cebot\|work, If you need support, share the issue with the channel.	22:03
hydral	IT's very psychedelisk	22:04
Jordan_U	xrisk: According to https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html , that feature was added in gcc 4.4, and thus should be avalable in the g++ 4.9.2 shipped in Ubuntu 15.04. What problem are you having with the auto keyword?	22:04
OerHeks	hydral, do you have an Ubuntu support question?	22:05
Cebot\|work	wileee, i'm just curious if someone got it to work yet. displaylink offers only a version for their drivers tested on ubuntu. i'm currently on suse, but tried kubuntu live cd and installed the driver in the live session, but also no luck...	22:05
wafflejock	hydral: this room is just for support questions/answers about ubuntu, if you want to just chat join #ubuntu-offtopic	22:05
xrisk	Jordan_U: i will give you a snippet please wait	22:05
wileee	Cebot\|work, Not sure myself, specific hardware is generally best to state here. ;)	22:06
Jordan_U	xrisk: Note that you may need to add -std=c++0x to your g++ invocation.	22:06
xrisk	Jordan_U: Why is that?	22:06
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wileee	Cebot\|work, Does the unit show in lsusb?	22:07
Jordan_U	xrisk: Because gcc doesn't default to supporting the latest C and C++ standards because otherwise people might unknowingly start depending on non portable features.	22:07
xrisk	Jordan_U: I will try that one moment :)	22:07
Cebot\|work	wileee, yes it does	22:07
wileee	Cebot\|work, What's it called there?	22:08
Cebot\|work	i'd be happy already if i could get it to work inside virtualbox with a win7 guest. cuz that is what i need it for. but the windows driver doesn't support the virtualbox gfx driver...	22:08
Cebot\|work	wileee, sec, i'll check	22:08
Cebot\|work	wileee, Bus 004 Device 004: ID 17e9:4306 DisplayLink	22:09
k1l_	Cebot\|work: is this about a smartphone?	22:11
wileee	Cebot\|work, I think that is key info, with a quick google I see kit, in multiple devices I think, certainly helpful here.	22:11
wileee	it*	22:11
wileee	k1l_, A dock	22:12
k1l_	a smartphone dock?	22:12
wileee	I think a computer, but that is a good question	22:12
Cebot\|work	k1l_, a usb3 display dock	22:12
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Cebot\|work	wileee, i'm not sure what you mean with you see kit?	22:16
wileee	Cebot\|work, typo see 't'	22:16
wileee	it*	22:16
Cebot\|work	wileee, i went by the install instructions for ubuntu (on the kubuntu live cd as well as on suse) provided by displaylink.com	22:17
wileee	Cebot\|work, Commonly we see hardware in many devices, so that lsusb is pertinent it alone hits on google.	22:18
wileee	Cebot\|work, Sure, I'm not the best help here all I can do is google, better for knowing helpers is all. ;)	22:18
k1l_	Cebot\|work: you got something like a install script or docs?	22:19
wileee	Cebot\|work, Off topic, but did you know the large hadron runs suse?	22:20
k1l_	Cebot\|work: you are on a live ubuntu?	22:20
Cebot\|work	wileee, but then, these dockingstations suck big time anyway. even on windows they cause a lot of problems for our colleagues. wish there were any decent (as in reliable for daily office work with lots of web and smaller gfx projects) that is not based on a displaylink chip and has native linux support too	22:21
k1l_	Cebot\|work: because from my understanding of http://www.displaylink.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29 this seems to work.	22:21
Cebot\|work	wileee, i remember to have heard about it	22:21
Johnny_Linux	suse halt	22:21
Cebot\|work	k1l_, displaylink.com has the installer. run it with --noexec --keep to extract the package and look at the install script	22:22
Cebot\|work	k1l_, not on kubuntu live anymore. tried it the way the described it, didn't get it to work (spent days on trying to get it to work on suse already)	22:23
k1l_	Cebot\|work: i would suggest you make a new thread in that forum i just linked so the specialists could have a look	22:23
k1l_	Cebot\|work: well, i would try a real ubuntu install.	22:23
Cebot\|work	k1l_, not an option. i'm quite happy to got everything working as i need it now, except for the 3rd monitor.	22:25
bdjd	Hey guys. The wireless networks just disappeared on my computer and I can't even enable/disable wireless networks. Can anyone help me fix this?	22:35
_Anna	Hi. I need help from libreOffice users.	22:36
_Anna	[15:09] CuriousAboutSL: I'd like to uncheck the "data>sort>options>Range contains column labels" option and keep it unchecked. How? After I click OK it returns to being checked.	22:36
bdjd	Anyone? I'm kind of desperate	22:37
wileee	bdjd, THe channel, not me, needs a release and desktop to start with usually.	22:39
wileee	any background leading to this as well	22:39
bdjd	Thanks. Ubuntu 15.04. I was writing a program in android studio. The computer just froze and so I restarted it.	22:40
bdjd	Now I have no wireless.	22:40
wileee	bdjd, This the unity desktop, or is there an android de	22:41
bdjd	It says I have wlan0 doesn't exist	22:41
FrankFromHR	bdjd: Is it a usb adapter?	22:41
bdjd	There's an android ide	22:41
bdjd	Yes	22:41
wileee	thanks, hopefully that will get some interst	22:42
bdjd	Thanks again	22:42
FrankFromHR	bdjd: Move it to a different usb port perhaps?	22:42
bdjd	I tried that	22:42
bdjd	And I got a different wifi usb adapter	22:42
bdjd	No change	22:42
FrankFromHR	bdjd: hmm	22:43
bdjd	Tried restarting network manager and restarting the network service	22:44
FrankFromHR	bdjd: might want to check dmesg and see if it registered that it picked up a device	22:44
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bdjd	They work. But to no avail	22:44
bdjd	Frankfromhr bow do I do that?	22:44
FrankFromHR	bdjd: you can do dmesg \| grep -i usb from the terminal	22:45
bdjd	K	22:46
bdjd	You want me to tell you it's output?	22:46
FrankFromHR	bdjd: Sure, do you know how to use pastebin ?	22:46
bdjd	I cant. The computer won't connect to the Internet and I'm on a smartphone lol.	22:47
FrankFromHR	bdjd: hah right	22:47
FrankFromHR	bdjd: pm me whatever looks relevent so we don't spam the channel	22:47
bdjd	Okay	22:47
wileee	FrankFromHR, The wants to see help.	22:48
wileee	channel*	22:48
FrankFromHR	bdjd: paste in the channel then	22:49
bdjd	Frankfromhr I actually cant...it's like 200 lines long lol	22:49
bdjd	Maybe yell me what to look for?	22:50
FrankFromHR	k try this, pull out the wifi adapter	22:50
FrankFromHR	then try tail -f /var/log/dmesg and then plug in the adapter and see if you see anything that says stuff about a new usb device.	22:50
Umeaboy	Jordan_U: Back.	22:51
bdjd	Nothing about wifi	22:51
herrkin	hi community, I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu server, I chose to encrypt the partition, now it asks me to input the passphrase everytime I start the system, is it normal?	22:51
FrankFromHR	bdjd: anything about a usb device?	22:51
reisio	herrkin: kinda pointless otherwise	22:51
Umeaboy	I can tell you the last row in a while.	22:52
bdjd	Yes. Over - current condition	22:52
herrkin	I think I did it once on ubuntu desktop it only asked me to input login info.	22:52
reisio	that's what disk encryption is for, protection from those with physical access (that are also too ignorant to wait until you've unlocked it)	22:52
bdjd	Then on the latest command it says eth0 link is not ready	22:52
herrkin	what I wanted by encrypting the partition is just not to let the owners grab the files. if I do that I would have to give the passphrase to them, so there is no point on having it in my case.	22:53
bdjd	Frankfromhr did you see what I said?	22:53
FrankFromHR	bdjd: do lshw -C network does it show you anything about wireless interface?	22:54
bdjd	No	22:55
bdjd	Frankfromhr no	22:55
bdjd	It says ethernet interface	22:55
FrankFromHR	bdjd: k type lsusb does that have anything in the list?	22:55
bdjd	Nothing about wireless.	22:56
bdjd	Hm	22:56
FrankFromHR	bdjd: So it's not being picked up at all	22:57
FrankFromHR	bdjd: So something else is probably going on	22:57
bdjd	I'm trying different usb ports	22:58
FrankFromHR	bdjd: What else do you have plugged in?	22:58
FrankFromHR	bdjd: keyboard, mouse and ?	22:58
bdjd	Mouse is plugged in and running just fine	22:59
Jordan_U	Umeaboy: You can also take a picture and post a link to it from imgur.com.	22:59
Radix\|DR	Hello is there any good ways to really optimize your ram	22:59
bdjd	Frankfromhr mous, keyboard, phone	23:00
bdjd	Wifi	23:00
FrankFromHR	bdjd: try disconnecting the phone and reboot with the wifi plugged in..	23:01
reisio	Radix\|DR: exploit you mean?	23:02
Jordan_U	Radix\|DR: What is your end goal?	23:02
bdjd	Frankfromhr. I just changed the mouse to a different usb and plugged my wifi card on the same place and now it works	23:02
bdjd	Engineering!	23:02
bdjd	Lol	23:02
OerHeks	Linux is great in memory-control, Only browsers can mess up my ram AFAIK	23:02
bdjd	That's seriously engineering in a nutshell. Lolol	23:03
Radix\|DR	Im running a PocketMine-MP Game server and I want to really use every bit of my dedicated server	23:03
FrankFromHR	bdjd: Mouse is still working?	23:03
bdjd	Yes	23:03
jr_	FrankFromHR: see?	23:03
jr_	It's bdjd	23:03
jr_	No clue what just happened	23:04
jr_	But...w.e	23:04
jr_	Now I can get back to work	23:04
jr_	haha	23:04
FrankFromHR	bdjd: computers.. they keep me in pizza and beer but some days I hate them..	23:04
FrankFromHR	jr_: hah	23:04
jr_	Yeah. They are kind of like magnets	23:04
jr_	You know?	23:04
jr_	....how do they work?	23:04
jr_	anyway. Thanks agaibn	23:05
FrankFromHR	jr_: Np	23:05
jr_	I'm going to my a crab and get the shell out of here	23:05
_Anna	I need help from libreOffice users. I'd like to uncheck the "data>sort>options>Range contains column labels" option and keep it unchecked. How? After I click OK it returns to being checked.	23:06
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CalebW	Anybody on?	23:16
reisio	nope	23:17
chalcedony	i asked in #libreoffice but not getting responses. Hopefully here. My husband's Ubuntu 14.04 computer crashed. He's having trouble recovering LibreOffice .odt files	23:20
chalcedony	i asked him to look at the crash log.. he doesn't know how to do that, either?	23:20
reisio	well which is it, he wants to know why it crashed, or he wants the .odt files	23:21
wileee	chalcedony, Is the install showing from a live?	23:21
wankipyrate	does the computer boot at all?	23:21
chalcedony	wankipyrate, yes it rebooted	23:21
chalcedony	wileee, he needs the files, he keeps important things there	23:22
chalcedony	i would like to know what broke so we can keep it from happening	23:22
wileee	chalcedony, Sure, and why I asked that question, it is a deep mist now we look through.	23:22
iv4nnunes	hi	23:23
c_korn	hello, how can I make glxgears run in a chroot? http://sprunge.us/DNjh already installed the nvidia-346 package	23:23
chalcedony	if i'm really really lucky i can ssh to his box	23:23
wileee	chalcedony, I would reread reisio's message.	23:26
chalcedony	wileee, reading up	23:26
F6F7	since running ubuntu 15.04 i often get "Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled" in my syslog/dmesg files and the cpu is indeed quite hot (ls_sensors says usually around 80C). This has not happened in older ubuntu versions or other Linux Os's. What can be the reason for it?	23:27
reisio	iv4nnunes: hi	23:27
reisio	F6F7: kernel "regression"	23:27
F6F7	My fan is definitely not dirty and it works fine on some other OSs (but the overheating cpu also is the case on debian 8 for example)	23:27
reisio	or less likely, userspace regression	23:27
wileee	chalcedony, we do one thing at a time and on occasion we do it well. ;)	23:27
reisio	F6F7: try a kernel from the version that worked	23:27
F6F7	ok, how can i change the kernel?	23:27
chalcedony	<reisio> well which is it, he wants to know why it crashed, or he wants the .odt files \| sorry I replied to the wrong party. My husband needs his docunents. I (me personally) would like to know why the computer doesn't keep working for him.	23:28
reisio	chalcedony: how is he having trouble getting .odt files?	23:28
chalcedony	reisio, my memory is not edetic. However he clicked on LibreOffice and it started recovering docuoments.. however it shows that it is u nable to recover about half of them	23:30
wileee	reisio, don't forget to say 'over' after evey transmission. ;)	23:30
chalcedony	we didn't go further and he has not used the computer much	23:30
reisio	chalcedony: that should only matter for things he was editing at the time of the crash that he didn't save	23:30
chalcedony	reisio, uh huh.	23:31
reisio	is that what he's worried about, things he was editing at the time that weren't saved?	23:31
wileee	libreoffice has an auto-saver has to be turned on is all chalcedony, any way best luck.	23:32
chalcedony	reisio, he keeps ongoing records of events. he needs those. yes	23:32
reisio	chalcedony: so he had documents open that he hadn't saved?	23:32
chalcedony	wileee, where's that setting ill see it's on!	23:32
chalcedony	reisio, my husband doesn't speak and understand speech due to a stroke. he's not well atm. i can't ask him.	23:33
wileee	chalcedony, It is what it is so be careful to know it's function exactly. https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Saving_Documents_Automatically	23:33
chalcedony	wileee, thank you much!	23:34
wileee	no prob	23:34
reisio	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash	23:35
chalcedony	reisio, thank you so much	23:35
nieve	Hello!	23:40
uio	Hello, youtube is kind of choppy... specs are 2 GiB RAM and 600 MHz. Any ideas on how to make it run better ?	23:40
nieve	any know what distribution consume low resources pc?	23:41
Jordan_U	uio: Are videos played through a dedicated player like Totem or VLC also choppy?	23:41
Jordan_U	!xubuntu \| nieve	23:41
ubottu	nieve: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels	23:41
Jordan_U	!lubuntu \| nieve	23:41
ubottu	nieve: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.	23:41
uniqueNick1	any os version to teach linux for my 4yo kid?	23:42
uio	Jordan_U: I haven't yet tried vlc, but I think that those distros you suggest might be better suited than ubuntu. Thanks.	23:43
nieve	Oh! Thk, i are using now MX 14 Memphis	23:43
nieve	but is only x86	23:43
nieve	Una distrubución que consuma pocos recursos y que sea de arquitectura 64 bits?	23:46
xangua	!lubuntu \| nieve	23:46
ubottu	nieve: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.	23:46
nieve	gracias, voy a hechar un vistazo :)	23:46
xangua	uniqueNick1: what other answer do you expect beside Ubuntu flavors in the ubuntu channel¿	23:46
apollo_	test	23:47
uniqueNick1	Xangua: ubuntu4toodler maybe	23:48
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r0th3d	j	23:55

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