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pittiGood morning03:00
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hikikohi04:58
didrocksgood morning05:06
hikikogood morning didrocks05:34
didrockshey hikiko05:36
* didrocks goes to catch his train to debconf07:21
didrockssee you later (if I can connect in 4G) or this evening guys!07:21
Laneyhey ;-)07:44
Laneyseb128: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/214452023/buildlog_ubuntu_wily_i386_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz might interest you07:44
Laney":("07:44
mitya57There is some chance it doesn't happen with gnome-bluetooth from -proposed (but the Breaks/Replaces are still needed)07:47
* Laney screams at "~ppa1"07:48
LaneyDARKXST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:48
mitya57Yeah, we now have ~ppa1 in gnome-{bluetooth,control-center,shell}07:49
ricotzLaney, hey :), for his defense a lot of the gcc5 packages have some weird vesioning too07:49
darkxstwho copied them into the archive?07:49
seb128hey desktopers07:50
seb128Laney, yeah, stupid boot/autopkgtest for bluez hang07:51
pittibonjour seb128, hey seb21807:51
* pitti waves to ricotz and mitya5707:51
seb128and some bits migrated before bluez07:51
* pitti waves to darkxst too, how are you?07:51
seb128I've also nfc how to debug those stupid tests07:51
seb128hey pitti07:51
* mitya57 waves back to pitti07:51
* ricotz waves back to all07:51
darkxsthey everyone07:52
seb128pitti, a bit annoyed at the autopkg/boottest for bluez but good otherwise ;-)07:52
seb128how are you?07:52
darkxstI am good, weather is on the improve but still cold here!07:52
pittiseb128: tired, woke up at 4:30 already; but okay07:53
seb128urg07:53
pittiit was steaming hot again last night07:53
* pitti shovels some heat towards darkxst07:53
Laneydarkxst: oh right, not you :P07:53
Laneyhey pitti07:53
Laneyyou travelling west today?07:54
Laneyseb128: looks like u-c-c needs B&R to gnome-bluetooth07:56
seb128Laney, yeah, I saw that from your log07:56
Laneythat would have stopped it migrating but probably also stops the fix though :(07:56
seb128Laney, pitti, if any of you has an idea how to debug that stup boottest hang (or the autopkg one) hints would be welcome07:57
pittiLaney: northeast actually, to a friend's wedding over the weekend; I'll come to Heidelberg on Sunday07:57
pittiseb128: bootest is broken with bluez, I just keep overriding it07:57
seb128ah ok, good07:57
Laneypitti: ah!07:57
pittiseb128: autopkgtest> it's not reproducible locally?07:57
pittiseb128: I just didn't bother yet while the autopkgtest was broken as it'll most likely require a new upload anyway07:57
pitti(and then I have to override boottest again)07:57
* pitti runs adt-run --apt-pocket=proposed -U bluez -s --- qemu /srv/vm/adt-wily-amd64-cloud.img07:59
seb128pitti, I'm trying to remember how to use adt-run locally08:00
pittiseb128: don't remember, RTFM :) http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test08:00
seb128pitti, yeah, i was reading that08:00
seb128but I don't want to use the cloud or an iso/img08:00
seb128I just want to run the thing on my normal system first08:01
pittiah, you can do that of course08:01
pittiif it doesn't break anything08:01
LaneyI sometimes just run them directly08:01
Laneyas a first round08:02
pittiseems to hang here too (in VM)08:02
pittiyeah, just call debian/tests/foo08:02
pittibut install the deps in debian/tests/control08:02
seb128I tried that but it's python and complains about "test" which can't be imported08:02
pittior, if you dare: sudo adt-run ./ --- null08:02
pittithat'll install the test deps08:02
pittibut you don't have that from me08:02
seb128but08:02
seb128  def testDevice(self):08:02
seb128    for dev in self.devices:08:02
seb128      ret = subprocess.call(['/usr/share/doc/bluez-test-scripts/examples/list-devices'])08:02
pittiit's not generally advisable to use the null runner with root -- if the test breaks your system, you get to keep both halves08:03
mitya57Laney, seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/unity-control-center/lp1484658/+merge/26804308:03
seb128that file doesn't exist08:03
pittiseb128: test dependencies08:03
seb128mitya57, thanks08:03
* didrocks backs from the train08:03
seb128oh, didrocks is traveling today08:04
seb128hey didrocks08:04
didrocksyep, starting my second shift of the day :p08:04
didrockshey seb128!08:04
* didrocks hears more german in the train than french08:04
seb128didrocks, you woke up at midnight and worked until 8am again?08:04
didrocksoh right, one of the destination is Strasbourg, that's why ;)08:05
pittididrocks: en route à Heidelberg ?08:05
didrockspitti: oui, avec un transfer à Mannheim08:05
didrocksseb128: no, was more kidding (started at 7)08:05
Laneywill you get there early?08:05
pittiah, the southern hub08:05
seb128didrocks, ah, k, you scared me a bit ;-)08:05
didrocksLaney: 15h30ish08:05
didrocksseb128: ;)08:06
Laneynice08:06
Laneyoh it's past 9am08:06
Laneycan call the agent now08:06
didrocksLaney: when do you plan to arrive?08:06
Laneyfrom a moving train, let's guess how this will work08:06
Laneywho knows!08:06
didrocksdesrt: ? ^08:06
didrocksworking here, but still in Lyon, so slow speed, I don't give this 4G connection long…08:06
Laneyquick, mirror the archive08:07
pittiapt-cacher-ng!08:07
didrocksahah08:07
seb128didrocks, you missed the backlog, Laney's flight is apparently not happening, he needs to call the travel agency08:07
didrocksoh? :/08:07
didrockswth?08:07
didrockson strike08:07
didrockspitti: I don't know where is the train station in Frankfurt, but if it's close enough from the airport, I may consider this train instead of a flight for connecting next time08:08
Laneythey're looking at rebooking me onto 16:1508:09
willcooke:(((08:09
Laneywhich arrives at 18:5508:09
pittididrocks: there's an ICE train station right at (well, under) the airport08:09
pittididrocks: takes some 15 min walk08:09
Laneyso probably get there between 8 and 9pm I guess08:09
pittididrocks: but NB "Frankfurt Hbf" != "Frankfurt Flughafen", that's some 20 min travel08:09
Laneydidrocks and seb128 need to read telegram more08:09
Laneythat's where I broke the news :P08:10
seb128lol08:10
pittididrocks: also, there's a TGV vom Munich to Strassbourg, that also ought to stop at least in Stuttgart; that sounds a lot faster/straighter08:10
Laneyhey willcooke08:10
willcookebad luck Laney.  So you're hanging round Heathrow all day?08:10
seb128didrocks, you didn't book your connection ticket yet?08:11
LaneyI could go... to the zoo?08:11
seb128Laney, go to London to the office ;-)08:11
Laneyit's only actually 1 hour later08:11
Laneychillax in the lounge08:11
Laneythey just opened one that we can use in t508:11
didrocksseb128: I did, I was talking about the future, when taking Lufthansa08:11
seb128ah ok08:12
didrockspitti: ah ok, this one is going to Frankfurt Hbf08:12
willcookeLaney, wat!?!?!  There's a lounge we can use in t5?  For reals?08:12
Laneysince very recently08:12
Laneyit's called the "aspire lounge"08:12
willcookenice08:13
Laneyalso08:13
willcookethis is good news08:13
LaneyI read that they took away the really really awesome one in T208:13
Laneythe United lounge08:13
Laneyif you've ever used it08:13
Laneyno more08:13
willcookeNever used it08:13
Laneydude08:13
Laneyit had the best (all free) bar of any lounge08:14
Laneyand a massive cooked & continental food selection08:14
* Laney RIP08:14
Laneyah, now this train is cookin' on diesel08:14
Laneyexpect to lose signal soon08:14
* didrocks is in a confortable TGV meanwhile08:15
Laneyhave you heard the jingle yet?08:15
didrocksand once again, taking it way earlier, 1st class was cheaper than 2, with plugs! ;)08:15
Laneythe SNCF tune08:15
didrocksthe one in the train stations?08:15
Laneyyeah08:15
didrocksof course08:15
Laneythat is my favourite thing about france08:15
didrocksahah08:15
LaneyI heard this on the radio the other day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHP7l0EaouM08:16
pittinot a compliment!08:16
Laneyreally weird08:16
Laney(related)08:16
didrocksLaney: dude!08:17
pittididrocks: je crois nous allons essayer le TGV en Decembre, quand nous te visite :)08:18
Laneypitti: btw https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-archive-tools/update-output-helper/+merge/267970 might interest you08:19
seb128pitti, tu prends le train pour aller à Lyon ?08:19
LaneyI'm using it to prod at the huge ball of packages trying to migrate08:19
pittiseb128: oui, si nous obtenons des billets -- le dernière fois nous avons reservé trop tard08:20
seb128ah ok08:20
didrockspitti: \o/08:20
didrockspitti: vous n'étiez pas venu en TGV pour le mariage ?08:21
pittialors nous devons prendre l'avion08:21
pittididrocks: cette fois nous allons reserver tôt !08:21
* Laney stares at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-bridge/+bug/148067108:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1480671 in mygui (Ubuntu) "a made a bobo, packages need v5 transition" [Undecided,In progress]08:28
Laneyconsole-setup task can be closed, confirm/deny08:28
Laneyconsole-bridge*08:28
* Laney grasps the nettle08:29
didrocksLaney: this one is for you, so that you can have even more from France to love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUP4EeILEpE08:40
Laneydear firefox, please learn to search in medium sized text files08:41
Laneycan't open link until it wakes up again :(08:41
seb128Laney, pitti, issue with the bluetooth autopkgtest seems to be that running "bluetoothd" used to return and now it doesn't08:48
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pittiseb128: hm, why would an autopkgtest even do that?08:59
pittiseb128: shouldn't it test that it properly gets d-bus activated? (or if it doesn't do that, the .service starts up?_08:59
seb128pitti, unsure, the test starts a private dbus session and then bluetoothd08:59
seb128pitti, I don't think bluez gets dbus activated09:00
pittiseb128: oh, I thought bluez was a system service09:00
seb128it is09:00
seb128it doesn't mean it has to be dbus activated, does it?09:01
pittiseb128: no, but then it needs a systemd unit or init.d script09:02
seb128right, it has one09:02
pittiso whatever it is that starts bluetoothd in a "real" session should not be worked around IMHO09:02
seb128/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service09:02
pittia private system d-bus session in an autopkgtest doesn't make much sense -- you want to test what's actually installed09:02
pittiotherwise you'd never spot problems with the init script/upstart job/systemd unit09:03
pittiWantedBy=bluetooth.target09:03
seb128http://launchpadlibrarian.net/109939702/bluez_4.101-0ubuntu1_4.101-0ubuntu2.diff.gz09:03
pittiah, I guess it wouldn't start automatically in a VM09:03
seb128cyphermox added that09:03
pitti-> "service bluetooth start"09:03
pitticyphermox: ^ please don't do that -- use "service bluetooth start" or something to test what you actually install09:04
seb128is the fake dbus env needed?09:04
seb128I guess not09:04
pittinope09:05
seb128pitti, so basically you would drop the " # start a local fake system D-BUS" section and replace09:05
seb128subprocess.call(['bluetoothd'])09:05
seb128with subprocess.call(['service bluetooth start'])09:05
seb128?09:05
pitti['service', 'bluetooth', 'start']09:05
pittibutyes09:05
seb128k09:05
seb128if you have a cloud image handy, can you test if that makes things work?09:05
pittisure09:06
seb128danke09:08
pittihm, bluez-test-scripts doesn't exist in wily (was going to test it against the old version too, but probably not that important)09:09
pittiseb128: curious, you got by all these years without a test VM?09:09
pittibluez_response       PASS09:10
pittiseb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078107/09:14
pittigood to upload?09:14
* pitti drops some more unused test deps09:14
seb128pitti, (sorry otp)09:15
* pitti uploads, shoudl be straightforward09:16
* Laney sees a "Heidelberg Cement Group" sign on pulling into St. Pancras09:22
Laneyit's a sign (ha ha)09:22
seb128pitti, +1 from me09:22
seb128pitti, I've pbuilders and virtualbox VM installs09:23
seb128but yeah, I don't have an autopkgtest vm env09:24
* Laney biab09:24
* pitti waves, time for lunch and -> train station09:48
seb128pitti, have fun! thanks again for helping with bluez ;-)09:50
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seb128Laney, pitti, bluez autopkg is happy now, could you overwrite the boottest one?10:56
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desrtdidrocks: tomorrow11:17
didrocksdesrt: oh? you changed your plan, ok, we will wait for you eagerly then :p11:43
didrocksanother proof strasbourg isn't in France, I was *roaming* in the train station11:43
davmor2didrocks: well how else do you move from one platform to another :P11:44
didrocksdavmor2: I even didn't move, still on the same train :p11:45
davmor2didrocks: oh well there is your problem your phone is simply recommending you move around a bit, it a fitness promoter ;)11:46
didrocksheh, in some way, yeah :p11:47
Laneyyo11:50
Laney3.5 hours to wait at LHR now11:50
willcookefun11:50
Laneygot a 10 quid voucher out of BA11:51
* Laney loads up on haribo11:51
willcookeSo what happened in the end, you had to phone them and they said "yeah, we cancelled it.  lol.  Here's 10 quid for your troubles"11:52
LaneyAmity rebooked me but I went to ask if I could get on an earlier later one11:52
Laneywhich was full but she took pity on me being so early11:52
willcookethat's not too11:53
willcookebad then I guess11:53
Laneyat least there's a lounge to hang around in11:54
Laneyonce I'm allowed through11:54
willcookeHave you got rid of your bags?  If so, go for a ride on the little self-driving pods11:55
willcookeIt's about a 10 minute round trip and a totally awesome way to visit a car park11:55
Laneycan't until 13.1511:56
Laneybut that *does* sound cool11:56
willcooketake your bags for a ride11:56
Laneyseb128: pitti: done11:56
seb128Laney, danke12:00
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Laneypitti: what is python-apt waiting for wrt ubuntu-drivers-common?12:10
bregmaTrevinho, I've got a Unity 7 landing in progress https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/dashboard.html#?q=bregma but it currently fails 624 AP tesst, looks like a problem related to D-Bus possibly due to the GCC-5 transition, and I'm gone until next Tuesday so it you want to follow up, that would be good12:14
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jibelseb128, are you aware of bug 1484923 and is anyone looking at it?12:19
ubot5bug 1484923 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "package unity-control-center 15.04.0+15.10.20150813-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/man/man1/bluetooth-wizard.1.gz », qui appartient aussi au paquet gnome-bluetooth 3.8.2.1-0ubuntu12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148492312:19
jibelit breaks image builds12:20
seb128jibel, yes and it's fixed in proposed12:20
jibelseb128, perfect thanks12:20
seb128but the fix can't migrate until bluez migrate12:20
seb128which I'm unsure why it doesn't12:20
seb128so you might want to ask on -release about that12:20
seb128http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt is chinese to me still12:20
jibelokay12:20
Laneyseb128: This is an easy one12:24
seb128Laney, I guess for somebody who can make sense of that file12:25
Laney    * amd64: gnome, gnome-control-center, gnome-core, gnome-desktop-environment, gnome-phone-manager, ubuntu-gnome-desktop, ubuntu-mate-core12:25
Laneymigrating all of the listed packages makes those uninstallable12:26
Laneyand e.g.12:26
Laney gnome-phone-manager : Depends: libgnome-bluetooth11 (>= 2.91.2) but it is not installable12:26
Laney                       Recommends: gnome-bluetooth but it is not going to be installed12:26
Laney ubuntu-mate-core : Depends: bluez-alsa but it is not installable12:26
seb128so yeah, the way is to get a schroot and try to install everything listed one by one and see the issue?12:27
seb128I wish that log would do that for you12:27
Laneyuse my cool new tool12:28
Laneylp:~laney/ubuntu-archive-tools/update-output-helper12:28
seb128which one?12:28
seb128thanks12:28
seb128can we get that plugged into whatever generate that unreadable log?12:28
Laneydoesn't work like that12:29
seb128:-(12:29
LaneyI wonder if britney couldn't tell you why though12:30
Laneybut at least with this you can get sensible answers out of apt quite easily12:34
* Laney goes to try security, biab12:34
seb128Laney, good luck12:35
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Laneymade it13:02
seb128great!13:03
Laneynice lounge13:05
pittiseb128: ah, Laney beat me to it13:11
Laneypitti's pingfest13:12
pittiLaney: err, now that is a bit weird indeed13:12
* pitti greets from train13:12
Laneyit's been like that for several cycles so probably won't self clear13:13
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pittiLaney: oh, should have thought about it with more than just two brain cells -- of course running u-d-c is correct, as that depends on python3-apt13:49
pittiLaney: I guess you meant the "in progress" bit?13:49
LaneyYes13:49
LaneyI guess it's because of the FTBFS somehow13:49
pittiLaney: yeah, and a version mismatch; I have a rough idea13:51
pittiLaney: I did some changes yesterday to handle unbuilt/uninstallable rdeps, I guess there's some corner case left13:52
pittiLaney: it's blocked on apt anyway, but once that goes in feel free to force-skiptest for now13:52
pitti(and file a bug -- really spotty bandwidth here, sorry)13:53
cyphermoxpitti: what?13:54
pitticyphermox: the bluez autopkgtest; I uploaded a fix, it's green again13:54
cyphermoxpitti: surely it wasn't about start bluetoothd manually13:55
pitticyphermox: yes it was, bluetoothd doesn't daemonize any more, so the subprocess.call(['bluetooth']) hangs forever13:55
cyphermoxpitti: oh, of course13:55
cyphermoxbut otherwise, starting the daemon is perfectly fine, even if it doesn't test the init script13:56
pitticyphermox: well yes, but not the intention of a full end-to-end package test13:57
Laneypitti: i_nfinity fixed it to not require a new apt13:58
* Laney skiptests13:58
cyphermoxpitti: I think we should separate things there and test the init script independently, especially in the case of bluetooth where you may want to do something special with the daemon to make sure all its options work14:00
pittialso fine14:06
pittibut right now the autopkgtest doesn't really test anything else than the .service, as the actual tests get skipped14:07
seb128cyphermox, pitti, that autopkgtest doesn't test much anyway, the log basically contains "testAdapter (__main__.TestBluezResponse) ... skipped 'No bluetooth devices available for testing'"14:12
seb128there is no mock there14:12
cyphermoxnah14:13
Laneycome on canonistack14:17
* Laney shovels some more iops in14:17
cyphermoxseb128: do you use evolution?14:20
seb128no14:20
seb128tb14:20
cyphermoxI've noticed my signatures are all wrong now, they're missing line breaks :)14:20
Laneyhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75104314:22
ubot5Gnome bug 751043 in Composer "Autogenerated signature: Newline lost in plain text mode" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]14:22
Laneyor?14:22
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willcookeHave fun @ deb conf17:19
willcookeg'night17:19

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