[00:09] <kadiro> hello
[00:11] <kadiro> I have a question
[00:12] <reisio> prove it
[00:13] <kadiro> my question is about grub and boot from ubuntu, update-grub take a long time and boot too
[00:13] <kadiro> sorry for my bad english ( ps: i'm not now from ubuntu )
[00:14] <reisio> is your question "update-grub take a long time?" ?
[00:14] <kadiro> yes reisio and booting from ubuntu too
[00:17] <kadiro> any idea reisio ?
[00:17] <reisio> sorry I don't know how to answer that
[00:17] <kadiro> thank you for your response :)
[00:18] <wileee> kadiro, Hit the esc key after leaving grub to see any text info. One issue at at time is important.
[00:18] <kadiro> thk's wileee i will do that torrow
[00:18] <CalebW> What is the XKB option string for the super key?
[00:18] <kadiro> tomorrow*
[00:19] <wileee> kadiro, Can you pastebin a sudo fdisk -l if msdos or sudo parted -l if uefi so we can see what al is there.
[00:20] <kadiro> ok wileee i will do that tomorrow i'm not from ubuntu now
[00:20] <bmsr256> hi, my question is: sometimes when i log in to ubuntu the home folder appears with the other folders with a lock, you know why this happens?
[00:21] <kadiro> wileee: my cable ide for HDD where is ubuntu installed damaged, may be a problem related to the cable?
[00:21] <wileee> kadiro, Cool, so other helpful info would be the basic hardware chip, and ram. So we can see if it is just old hardware. No idea on a cable, personally hard info does it.
[00:22] <wileee> kadiro, This ubnutu in a external?
[00:22] <kadiro> ok wileee thank you, may be i will buy a cable tomorrow and see what happend
[00:23] <kadiro> no wileee
[00:23] <wileee> kadiro, Cool, I saw ide, just checking?
[00:23] <kadiro> my HDD ( removed now ) is an maxtor 40 Gb
[00:23] <wileee> ssd?
[00:23] <kadiro> yes true wileee
[00:23] <kadiro> IDE
[00:23] <wafflejock> weird
[00:24] <kadiro> big cable ( oldest )
[00:25] <wafflejock> oh you weren't saying yes to SSD right just yes about IDE
[00:25] <wileee> I think so
[00:25] <wafflejock> yeah don't think you can get an IDE SSD that would be weird
[00:26] <kadiro> yes like this http://www.videk.co.uk/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/3014.jpg
[00:26] <wafflejock> I stand corrected
[00:26] <wafflejock> they do exist http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/SSDMLP060/
[00:27] <rredd4> followed these instructions on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx    on how to create a bootable USB stick on OS X.  It does not work.  Also, the instructions son
[00:27] <kadiro> wafflejock: i guess this technology is faster
[00:27] <rredd4> also, the instructions don't say about formatting the usb stick, ms dos or mac format
[00:27] <snowkidind> ok here we go again. looking for a recommended email configuration for ubuntu and an isp who blocks port 25. For my development server
[00:29] <OerHeks> rredd4, format to fat32
[00:29] <wafflejock> kadiro: yeah SSD have much faster times because it is a Solid State Drive which means it doesn't have any moving parts, it's something like a huge flash drive for your hard drive, seek times to any part of the disk are fast since it's just sending signals down circuits not moving a disk and an arm around, but typically you'd want a SATA connector for it since it has higher bandwidth to get the data from the disk to the board not IDE
[00:29] <rredd4> OerHeks will a mac boot from a fat32 device?
[00:29] <snowkidind> I just put an ssd in this machine im working on. leagues faster.
[00:29] <aaomidi> Hey guys, I'm running into an annoying issue when trying to install ubuntu-desktop-next
[00:29] <OerHeks> rredd4, when you put the iso on the usb, yes
[00:30] <aaomidi> The issue is this: http://pastebin.com/NA88mx9v
[00:30] <kadiro> thk's wafflejock, is cheap? and exist for all over the world? ( i never see it )
[00:30] <kasad> aloha
[00:30] <aaomidi> I am on a desktop without any bluetooth adapters which is causing the installation to fail.
[00:30] <kasad> guys, could you help decipher this to me, I don't even know where to begin
[00:30] <kasad> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-dq3FnkxsbUamx4UHVZMkFPVmc&usp=sharing
[00:30] <wafflejock> kadiro: I think you can get them anywhere at this point, they tend to be far more expensive per GB compared to spinning disks
[00:30] <wileee> aaomidi, This from a PPA?
[00:31] <aaomidi> Default.
[00:31] <wafflejock> kadiro: typically they are good for your OS and day to day programs then big games or media you put on spinning disks
[00:31] <kasad> image 1 is when I power up the machine, then it tries to fix itself and goes into infinite loop which looks like image2
[00:31] <rredd4> OerHeks  I have rEFInd loaded also, use that or remove it?
[00:31] <kadiro> wafflejock: i'm from algeria, i ask if you can confirm it exst in my country
[00:31] <kasad> if anyone has a clue about those error messages, it would be great help
[00:31] <wafflejock> kadiro: well you can definitely order online
[00:31] <kasad> because I have stuff on that laptop that I really need
[00:31] <wafflejock> kadiro: http://www.newegg.com/SSDs/Category/ID-119?Tpk=ssd
[00:32] <aaomidi> kasad: You might be able to fix that with boot-fix
[00:32] <aaomidi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:32] <OerHeks> rredd4, i don't know about mac, just how to make a live-usb, see the mactel wiki
[00:32] <kadiro> wafflejock: this is the point in my country no one can order online
[00:32] <OerHeks> !mac
[00:32] <kasad> thanks!
[00:32] <kasad> let me see
[00:32] <aaomidi> wileee: Any idea?
[00:32] <wafflejock> kadiro: ah sorry to hear that, but if you search SSD in Algeria you can probably find better resources than I know of
[00:33] <wileee> aaomidi, what release are you running?
[00:33] <aaomidi> 15.04
[00:33] <kadiro> thank you wafflejock
[00:33] <gartral> hey all, I have a motherboard that has a light aray that's controlled through UEFI, are there any tools available to control that from withing ubuntu?
[00:33] <aaomidi> Just wanting to try out 15.10
[00:33] <wileee> aaomidi, I only see a iso download with that, not sure otherwise, I'm in 14.04 at the moment.
[00:34] <wileee> aaomidi, There is a 15.10 channel
[00:34] <OerHeks> kasad, follow the wiki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop, as an LXC container or live iso
[00:34] <aaomidi> Yeah, the issue is with the install script
[00:35] <aaomidi> It doesnt ignore the fact that bluetooth can not exist xD
[00:35] <wileee> aaomidi, If you're doing this in 15.10, you want it's channel, here for 15.04 is all
[00:35] <kasad> thank you guys,I love you <3, downloading now
[00:36] <OerHeks> aaomidi , follow the wiki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop, as an LXC container or live iso ( just installing unity-next give you this issues)
[00:38] <kadiro> my brother have an old pc than me with only 256M ram ddr1, i ask, if any DE or special ubuntu can be light and easy for him?
[00:38] <Jordan_U> rredd4: Do you only have OSX for preparing the USB, or can you use Ubuntu to create it?
[00:38] <wileee> had to use my next live last week, freaky man
[00:38] <rredd4> Jordan_U osx only
[00:39] <rredd4> Jordan_U would have to use virtualbox to use ubuntu.  trying to dual boot osx and ubuntu
[00:39] <kadiro> he want just listening video and music and viewing web site like youtube
[00:40] <rredd4> Jordan_U using vb is slow
[00:41] <wafflejock> kadiro: this could work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu but without some sort of GPU YouTube is probably not going to work out great
[00:41] <wafflejock> kadiro: even a cheap PCI card GPU can help if the board doesn't have some kind of dedicated GPU
[00:42] <kadiro> wafflejock: thk's again i will test it in his machine i have the iso the same i installed in mine
[00:44] <kadiro> i forget to said: he have an atheros wifi, is the kernel can see it or i must check out the driver for it?
[00:45] <OerHeks> !atheros
[00:46] <kadiro> thank you OerHeks
[00:46] <Gerowen> Random thought, is there an easy to use file recovery tool for Ubuntu?  Something like Piriform's "Recuva" for Linux?
[00:48] <wileee> Gerowen, easy is a users decision testdisk is the usual
[00:48] <OerHeks> !info extundelete
[00:49] <OerHeks> I would go for testdisk too, not that easy, but there is a manual  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[00:49] <kadiro> thk's again OerHeks this helpful for me and new
[00:54] <Gerowen> wileee and OerHeks: I may just write myself a script then to automate testdisk operations then instead of trying to memorize the manual, :-)
[00:54] <wileee> Gerowen, how about just being backed up?
[00:55] <kadiro> I installed in the past script from internet to fix a problem for my grub ( take long time to boot ) it add " $vt_handoff " in grub.cfg, what that means?
[00:56] <Guest43754> I have a question
[00:56] <Gerowen> wileee: The concern is not for myself, but for a "what if" scenario.  What if a power surge kills my backup hard drive?  What if a friend comes to me and wants a file recovered?  Backups are all well and good, but fecal excrement happens, :P
[00:56] <kut> in bash, how would you rename yyyy-mm-dd description\adfg.jpg and other files within the dir to yyyy-mm-dd description\yyyy-mm-dd description 001.jpg and yyyy-mm-dd description 002.jpg etc ?
[00:57] <kadiro> Guest43754: give it a try
[00:58] <rnat> Gerowen: That's why you should always have multiple backups distributed across devices geographically if possible, the probability of a disaster affecting all your devise on the same day is close to 0.001
[00:59] <Gerowen> rnat: And how does that help the 75 year old lady next door who accidentally deleted a photo of her grandkid?  You expect every tom dick and harry to have duplicate and off site backups of everything they've got?  Tell me how it works out in your neighborhood, :P
[00:59] <kadiro> kut: may be this will help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674490
[00:59] <Guest43754> Well, when I install NodeJS and run node it doesn't return anything, neither does node -v. I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it via apt-get
[01:00] <Flannel> Gerowen: backups should be disconnected when not in use (that helps against power surges, viruses, accidental deletion, etc).
[01:00] <Gerowen> Anyway, I'll take a look at testdisk, people seem to be avoiding the question, which tells me there's not a lot of choices in the Linux world when it comes to this particular tool, so I'll do what I can with testdisk so that if something ever does happen, I'm prepared.
[01:01] <kadiro> CharlesT_: no idea for that sorry
[01:01] <wafflejock> Gerowen: ddrescue can work well too
[01:01] <rnat> Gerowen: so you are 75 year old lady? hmmmm
[01:02] <dw1> how can i disable the shut down on critical low power - ubuntu 14.04
[01:02] <CharlesT_> I also tried updating apt-get and it gave me an error after sitting at "100% [waiting for headers]" too. any idea why that is?
[01:02] <dw1> i want to drain the battery so the capacity readout is better
[01:02] <wafflejock> Gerowen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:03] <Gerowen> rnat: Negative, stop deflecting.  wafflejock: Thanks, I'll check it out, :-)  If everybody must know, what brought up the question was I just got a message from a family member asking about recovering lost photos, and on Windows machines I usually use Recuva with mixed success, dependong on whether those sectors have been overwritten yet, but it got me to thinking, I had never tried doing it in Ubuntu, so I thought I'd stop by here and ask.
[01:03] <dw1> maybe i should boot into a liveusb for that :P
[01:03] <dw1> nm
[01:03] <kadiro> CharlesT_: i guess when using update-grub take a long time for you too?
[01:03] <wafflejock> Gerowen: yup I've used it before on dying/damaged disks and had pretty good results (was just copying scratched up DVDs for my brother)
[01:03] <kut> kadiro: not really cause I want the files named based on the folder name (since it has the date and description already in it)
[01:05] <CharlesT_> havent tried
[01:05] <CharlesT_> i will
[01:09] <kadiro> kut: my english is bad, you want to rename yyyy-mm-dd description\adfg.jpg to yyyy-mm-dd description\yyyy-mm-dd description 001.jpg and so on ?
[01:09] <kut> yes
[01:11] <xMopxShell> so after a couple months of uptime, my ubuntu server started having crazy latency on incoming connections. ufw seemed to be the cause, but it doesn't have any special rules besides allowing specific ports from specific IPs. Any ideas?
[01:12] <kadiro> hmm somethin to append date to a file but this is hard for me kut
[01:12] <CharlesT_> Update-grub runs fine
[01:13] <CharlesT_> I can also ping google
[01:13] <kut> kadiro: just the name, not the date info
[01:14] <wileee> CharlesT_, Kinda hard to follow any of that info, especially when your first post was a different nic. Stop, gather the info and put it all in single posts
[01:16] <OerHeks> xMopxShell, "couple of months" sounds like you didn't update the kernel and stuff ..
[01:16] <xMopxShell> OerHeks: right, but is iptables really that unstable? It's been around for ages
[01:16] <wileee> xMopxShell, You are really short on any real details, there is #ubuntu-server but they will be even stronger on the details I would suspect.
[01:17] <xMopxShell> alright, thanks
[01:17] <coffee-guy> hey for ubuntu install which client has spellcheck? smuxi? xchat? er...?
[01:18] <bazhang> coffee-guy, hexchat
[01:18] <coffee-guy> oh yah ok thank bazhang
[01:19] <kadiro> kut: if one by one then: mv "yyyy-mm-dd description/adfg.jpg" "yyyy-mm-dd description/yyyy-mm-dd description 001.jpg
[01:20] <kadiro> if i understand what you trying to do
[01:20] <CharlesT_> wileee what should I do?
[01:21] <wileee> CharlesT_, No idea, not an area I know, however I see you just randomly spreading the info on the channel, could you follow that?
[01:23] <kadiro> CharlesT_: I'm not sure but when an error apear about header i think iso image installed is corupted
[01:23] <xheart> hi everyone,
[01:23] <kadiro> hi
[01:23] <kadiro> kut: are you here?
[01:24] <xheart> is there a command to search for drivers on ubuntu 14.04? My wifi does not work correctly
[01:24] <xheart> with 12.04lts worked better
[01:24] <kadiro> xheart: try upgrading the kernel
[01:25] <xheart> how?
[01:25] <OneM_Industries> Hey, how do I upgrade my installation of ubuntu without having to completely reinstall?
[01:25] <kadiro> apt-get dist-upgrade ( correct me if i'm not correct )
[01:25] <OneM_Industries> Ok, you are a fast typer.
[01:26] <wileee> kadiro, Would you please stop helping, I have to keep you in ignore otherwise, and don;t see the post which are of no help and get in the way of helping.
[01:26] <kadiro> wileee: i just try to help
[01:27] <Bashing-om> xheart: Try ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[01:27] <wileee> kadiro, Your not......period, you're getting in the way of real help, and this is not just my opinion.
[01:27] <xheart> i will try that bashing
[01:27] <kadiro> wileee: i don't understand what you means
[01:27] <wileee> kadiro, Not my issue, stop helping.
[01:28] <kadiro> wileee: why?
[01:28] <wafflejock> OneM_Industries: what are you trying to upgrade from and to?
[01:29] <kadiro> i think this channel is for helping or asking
[01:29] <wafflejock> OneM_Industries: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades should basically cover it regardless
[01:29] <wileee> kadiro, You do not help, but you hinder well stop it.
[01:29] <OneM_Industries> Ah, thank you.
[01:30] <kadiro> wileee: that what you thinking i do not that may be a coincidence
[01:30] <xheart> did not do any change
[01:31] <kadiro> guys, is what saying Mr wileee correct about me?
[01:31] <OerHeks> kadiro, just giving random solutions like updating a kernel make no sense, wifi drivers should work. the claim they work better in 12.04 has not been proven to me, sofar.
[01:31] <wafflejock> xheart: is your wireless built in or USB?
[01:32] <kadiro> OerHeks: yes correct for what you saying
[01:32] <Bashing-om> xheart: No change intended -> "lost" just to show what options are available . If there are options shown one might do : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Let the system figure out what it needs .
[01:32] <Bashing-om> lost/list*
[01:33] <kadiro> but i do not that whith intent
[01:34] <kadiro> sorry if i'm not helpfull or welcome here
[01:34] <wafflejock> kadiro: good to either use well known references or just give advice on things you're either very familiar with or you can test, if you want to socialize about ubuntu join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <kadiro> thank you all, i stop my help
[01:36] <wafflejock> kadiro: we (I at least) don't intend to be mean either it's just a matter of keeping the channel focused and not sending users on ten paths at once
[01:37] <wileee> the facts are not mean, own them
[01:37] <wafflejock> wileee: usually not what you say but how you say it though, unfortunate reality of communication
[01:38] <kadiro> thank you all, you're right, i understand you
[01:38] <OneM_Industries> Hm, this is odd. I tried opening the software updater to upgrade, but there is no upgrade button like the documentation shows, and when I click on settings, nothing happens.
[01:39] <wafflejock> OneM_Industries: try launching "Software & Updates" directly
[01:39] <OneM_Industries> Ah ha, done.
[01:40] <OneM_Industries> Odd, I still don't see a upgrade button.
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> OneM_Industries: What release to what release?
[01:41] <OneM_Industries> 14.04 LTS to 15.04.
[01:41] <OneM_Industries> At least, that is what I am hoping to do.
[01:41] <wafflejock> OneM_Industries: in the Software & Updates you should have an Updates tab
[01:41] <wafflejock> OneM_Industries: in there you should see a drop down that says it only looks for LTS upgrades right now
[01:42] <OneM_Industries> Set it to any update?
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> OneM_Industries: I believe an LTS will only show you upgrades to another LTS, unless you specify that you want to include non-LTS releases.
[01:42] <wafflejock> yeah believe any new version is what it should be, can wait to get a confirm from others
[01:42] <wafflejock> pretty sure that's it though
[01:43] <OneM_Industries> Done, now to wait.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> OneM_Industries: You can't go from 14.04 to 15.04 directly regardless - you'd have to go through 14.10, which complicates matters since I think it's EOL already.
[01:43] <OneM_Industries> Oh.
[01:43] <OneM_Industries> Bother.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> It can still be done, just might take some fiddling.
[01:43] <OerHeks> you will need the old-release trick to get over 14.10
[01:43] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[01:44] <OerHeks> You might reconsidder fresh install.
[01:44] <OneM_Industries> Eeh.
[01:44] <OerHeks> OneM_Industries, see this part > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading
[01:45] <Cpudan80> Hello folks
[01:45] <Cpudan80> I am having trouble with my server which has a RAID 5 software raid in it
[01:46] <Cpudan80> The stats are showing 2 of the disks as "removed"
[01:46] <OneM_Industries> You know what, I will be happy with 14.04 for now.
[01:47] <Cpudan80> Now the tricky thing is that there's a separate RAID 1 on the same 3 drives that is good
[01:49] <kadiro> good night every body ( i'm sorry again Mr wileee i swear i do not that with intent )
[01:49] <wileee> wafflejock, This person has been addressed multiple times, they need to reflect, they have been argumentative from the first post with multiple regulars. Nice talk is not there function, an authority figure is needed like a mod, this is obvious.
[01:50] <wileee> their*
[01:50] <wafflejock> right well if your message isn't getting through maybe you need to re-frame the delivery of the message instead of getting angry is all I'm saying, you're right to discourage bad advice
[01:51] <wafflejock> and I know you help a lot of people here (probably me before too, so nothing personal)
[01:51] <wileee> I call the cops when the authority is needed in my job, some people only respond to this
[01:51] <kadiro> ok, i'm sorry
[01:53] <wileee> I have training on a crisis line, psychology, counseling and intercultural relations, this is beyond any rewording.
[01:55] <qoo> 有国人吗
[01:55] <bazhang> !cn | qoo
[01:56] <qoo> 55~~~
[02:05] <hujan> hai
[02:06] <hujan> selamat pagi
[02:06] <wileee> hujan, English?
[02:06] <somsip> !in | hujan
[02:06] <somsip> !id
[02:07] <jhgfrxtilyogupul> GET BACK IN UBUNTU
[02:08] <jhgfrxtilyogupul> sorry
[02:09] <chalcedony> my husband still wants to recover his files.
[02:09] <chalcedony> to him, he had 'saving' on.
[02:09] <chalcedony> so they ought to be there and be ok
[02:09] <Continuum> hey this is probably the wrong place to ask
[02:10] <Continuum> but does anybody know the channel that replaced #defocus?
[02:10] <wileee> chalcedony, I would pull them with a live in a copy and paste and open one by one with libreoffice to see what is up.
[02:11] <wileee> !alis | Continuum might help
[02:12] <Continuum> yeah but if i list by most popular all i get is ubuntu, debian channels and such
[02:12] <Continuum> im looking for a misc/social channel
[02:13] <wileee> Continuum, there is #ubuntu-offtopic they might know there, just guessing though.
[02:13] <Continuum> thanks!
[02:13] <wileee> no problem, nota a bad place to lurk
[02:15] <chalcedony> wileee, did you mean a live cd?
[02:15] <wileee> chalcedony, I just wonder if they need libreoffice to do a fix, just hard to tell from the info. I believe it will boot, and you have ssh access maybe.
[02:15] <wileee> chalcedony, Yeah a live disk or usb
[02:17] <chalcedony> i'm ssh'd to his computer wileee
[02:17] <ki7rw> what's all this "funny stuff" happening with updates? turns out that the updates thru synaptic and software updater hang because of some changelog nonsense - i found this out when i used apt-get and saw the changlog hang there
[02:17] <chalcedony> ki7rw, ouch
[02:18] <chalcedony> wileee, i found this but foremost gives errors. https://mikemacd.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/recover-lost-or-corrupt-libreoffice-doc-files-or-any-deleted-media-files/
[02:19] <ki7rw> as a matter of fact, i have to reboot my computer before i can run apt-get because of the synaptic and software updater hangs
[02:20] <ki7rw> as a matter of fact, i have to reboot now
[02:20] <wileee> chalcedony, Cool, just seems like just starting at the easiest place is the logical thing to do, actually shown statistically to be the straightest point to an answer. Beyond that it is hard to follow anything here with you fixing while trying to recover.
[02:21] <chalcedony> wileee, i'm not trying to be confusing
[02:23] <wileee> chalcedony, I know, it's just hard to follow what has happened, and what you have done. I'm not the best help beyond what I suggested with a live. Additionally we don;t know now where the files are, or if it is the auotosave documents. ;)
[02:26] <wileee> chalcedony, On occasion I've had a doc open and reboot, libreoffice does a fix and it works, this is a crash though, would be nice to know if any are fixed by opening with libreoffice.
[02:27] <chalcedony> ok
[02:27] <chalcedony> he says he's got it.. i don't know what he's got
[02:27] <chalcedony> he had me type all the file names for him.. so maybe .. he says he's happy.
[02:27] <wileee> great care your giving ;)
[02:28] <chalcedony> hehe
[02:28] <chalcedony> i try
[02:28] <chalcedony> thanks wileee :)
[02:28] <wileee> ;)
[02:42] <Grzy7316> hey anybody here able to help me set up a WD mycloud NAs as a permanent mount? When I tried setting up fstab I get an error about cifs urls not supported
[03:03] <fortesp> does any one know a good channel for being a better QA(tester)
[03:17] <c2h6o> hey guys, with the snappy package manager, will packages contain all of their dependencies?
[03:18] <wileee> c2h6o, snappy package manager?
[03:18] <fortesp> hi guys
 im not sure too much about this channel, im hoping you guys can give me tips about QA and how to be better
[03:18] <fortesp> or even ubuntu to be honest, first time using it :/
[03:20] <somsip> fortesp: you just ask what you want support with and people help if they can
[03:20] <fortesp> awesome
[03:20] <c2h6o> wileee, i think the upcoming 15.10 version will introduce snappy packages alonside .debs
[03:21] <wileee> c2h6o, Not used the snappy core but any app installed has it;s dependencies within it's script for install.
[03:21] <fortesp> i got my first IT job we r using linux, whats the best place to learn how to do stuff, is there a centralized place with all info?
[03:22] <wileee> c2h6o, I assume it is the same there, have you had dependency issues?
[03:23] <cihhan> Hi all, somehow my firefox stopped giving sound and I am checking and it s the same for Chrome. However, I can get sound from VLC player. Any idea?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> fortesp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages // Current and well maontained .
[03:24] <Bashing-om> maintained*
[03:24] <somsip> fortesp: #linux channel or for ubuntu type !manual
[03:28] <darius93> why is kernel 3.16 installed on 14.04? I thought the kernel was to be 3.13 during its lifetime (not including HWE)
[03:29] <Bashing-om> darius93: release 14.04.2 is HWE enabled .
[03:29] <javier_> hola
[03:30] <cihhan> Hi all, somehow my firefox stopped giving sound and I am checking and it s the same for Chrome. However, I can get sound from VLC player. Any idea?
[03:33] <indistylo> I am trying to make my first RESTful API project using  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19483883/how-to-use-dropwizard-in-netbeans-project , I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/wsGnMT4M kindly tell me how to resolve it
[03:34] <fortesp> somsip: thanks
[03:37] <fortesp> btw whats the best irc client for ubuntu?
[03:37] <fortesp> Xchat?
[03:40] <cihhan> hi all, i cant get any sound from videos using both firefox and chrome but vlc works fine. any idea?
[03:47] <surgy>  im running kubuntu 14.04 kernal 13.19  i have a huion graphics tablet that works in krita and gimp with pressure and everything. works great. in mypaint everything on the tablet works except for pressure..... can you help me get my pressure sensitivity to work please?
[03:47] <surgy> i have already tried #mypaint
[03:52] <UbuntuNJ> Hello. I just installed Ununtu onto an 8GB flash drive but I now realize it's too small, Is there any way to image it to a 32GB flash drive? I don't have a usable DVD or hard drive on this system
[03:53] <surgy> UbuntuNJ, you can download another live installer onto the 32gb drive
[03:54] <UbuntuNJ> surgy, if I do that can i install a full OS  to the 32gb drive? Not just run a Live image?
[03:54] <surgy> well your on the 8gb now?
[03:54] <wileee> UbuntuNJ, Sure from a live use gparted to copy paste the partition to a bigger on the 32
[03:54] <surgy> UbuntuNJ, listen to wileee
[03:55] <UbuntuNJ> Wileee I can't use a live dvd or a live USB stick now and still have the other 2 USB sticks installed
[03:55] <wileee> UbuntuNJ, You could dd it as well, clonezilla clone, I would do a copy paste, you just have to add grub to the mbr to boot.
[03:56] <fahad> anyone there?
[03:56] <wileee> UbuntuNJ, Well you can't do anything from it, it has to be not mounted.
[03:56] <surgy> UbuntuNJ, use this command "sudo dd if=/'directory to iso' of=/'mount point of desired live'
[03:57] <wileee> surgy, this is not an iso, stop.
[03:57] <wileee> we may get there, but so far that does not answer the users needs as far as I can tell anyway
[03:58] <surgy> wileee, ok :)
[03:58] <wileee> thanks ;)
[03:58] <UbuntuNJ> Here is the stutation. My coworker's HDD died in her laptop. She can't afford a repair so I suggested ubuntu on a flash drive.
[04:00] <UbuntuNJ> From my Windows 8 system i built a live image on the 32gb drive but it was not keeping changes so I decided to install it from that drive to anpother one. I can't download another image because I'm almost out of room on the 8gb drive an my windows px upgraded to Win 10 and now won't run
[04:01] <wileee> UbuntuNJ, That is impossible to follow. #1 is this a full install or a live with persistence on the 8 gig usb?
[04:01] <UbuntuNJ> wileee,  it's a Full Install
[04:02] <wileee> UbuntuNJ, Okay than you want it on the 32 gig, but have no live capabilities?
[04:02] <UbuntuNJ> wileee,  Correct
[04:02] <kelledin_> so
[04:03] <kelledin_> i'm now having trouble building an out-of-tree module for some reason
[04:03] <wileee> UbuntuNJ, Than your treading water. You have to have a way of copying or imaging to the 32 gig, with the ubuntu install not booted.
[04:04] <kelledin_> it builds fine, but insmod (and modprobe) insist that there's missing symbols
[04:04] <wileee> linux does not do live imaging in ext4
[04:04] <kelledin_> even though the symbols it insists are missing are actuallly present in /proc/kallsyms
[04:04] <UbuntuNJ> wileee, i can put in an 8GB SD card for a few hours if that would help but I don't think this laptop can boot off the sd slot
[04:04] <surgy> wileee, may i make a sugestion?
[04:06] <kelledin_> so what gives?  why is insmod giving me crap about unknown symbols?
[04:07] <wileee> kelledin_, If you can precisely describe it you might get help, 'might' a build is your responsibility is all.
[04:09] <kelledin_> wileee: well, to start off with: zdpms: Unknown symbol hid_unregister_driver (err 0)
[04:11] <wileee> kelledin_, Heh, I left out I would have no clue, my point was your issue is not technically supported most likely.
[04:11] <kelledin_> whereas /proc/kallsyms says: 0000000000000000 t hid_unregister_driver	[hid]
[04:12] <wileee> might be better support is all, if your time means anything or a better answer to why your doing this.
[04:16] <indistylo> There is strange behavior with my ubuntu system,  I have just changed openJDK to Java 8, echo $JAVA_HOME is still showing openJDK, Full problem details > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12077122/
[04:17] <Guest65820> what.
[04:18] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I get access to the drive C of my windows in VB from Ubuntu machine?
[04:19] <beerhunter> what
[04:19] <SaviorX> open files!
[04:19] <SaviorX> you gonna find it unmounted
[04:19] <mojtaba> beerhunter: Is that for me?
[04:19] <SaviorX> click to mount
[04:21] <beerhunter> I was just testing
[04:21] <beerhunter> brand new to Rizon
[04:27] <wileee> mojtaba, You might check in #vbox
[04:28] <BuenGenio> Good time of day! got an issue - need to extract a lot of emails from a driver recovery dump - there are heaps of files of mixed types (binary/text) and a lot of them corrupted. what can I use to pipe these files through to extract and save what emails are found?
[04:30] <beerhunter> whatup
[04:30] <mojtaba>  wileee: ok, thanks
[04:33] <wileee> mojtaba, No problem, a shared file is easy, not sure what you seek is any easy task if possible.
[04:33] <mojtaba> wileee: I know how to do that. But I want to basically be able to connect to my guest machine.
[04:34] <wileee> a virtual has the advantage of v=being a closed container, so.........
[04:34] <mojtaba> I do not know how to do that, my ip addresses are different
[04:35] <mojtaba> I have added an IP address of that range to my host machine, but it did not work.
[04:35] <wileee> mojtaba, Why not dual boot, your taking up the same space anyway.
[04:36] <mojtaba> wileee: Some programs unfortunately just run in windows, and I just want them while using my main loved Ubuntu system ;)
[04:36] <wileee> fair enogh
[04:36] <wileee> enough*
[04:43] <quarters> hello
[04:45] <quarters> I've had a couple false starts with ubuntu, even at one point, ruining the distro while trying to install some packages, I believe. I was hoping to try again and was wondering if ubuntu desktop would be better suited for my purposes as I'm interested in practicing and learning ruby on rails development in a linux environment
[04:46] <wileee> quarters, Do you mean a desktop in general or specifically the unity desktop?
[04:47] <wileee> unity is the default ubuntu desktop
[04:47] <quarters> oh, I didn't even know there different flavors of ubuntu desktop
[04:48] <wileee> !flavors | quarters for your pleasure
[04:50] <wileee> quarters, kinda of a personal journey it seems like, do you have any friends doing this in linux that might have advice, besides here?
[04:51] <quarters> wileee: I don't, unfortunately. Yeah, it seems like the way in is either through someone's sway or trying it all out yourself
[04:52] <quarters> I'm not one for sampling every flavor of ubuntu as that would seem fairly involved
[04:52] <wileee> quarters, My only thought would be the default ubuntu is a nice desktop, not a lot of configuring generally, the lighter the desktop the manual tweaks are part of the game
[04:53] <quarters> and it's fairly easy to bork the entire install if you're a noob, I've learned firsthand
[04:53] <wileee> xubuntu a little lighter, is a nice one, lubuntu is lighter, yet more configs for tweaking rather than gui's,
[04:54] <wileee> quarters, Yeah, had to reload 3 times the first 6 months but did not know of this channel or the forums.
[04:55] <quarters> do lighter installs generally mean less user-friendly?
[04:55] <__nemo__>  /exit
[04:55] <quarters> I kind of need my hand held at this phase
[04:56] <wileee> quarters, Sort of, the desktops look good to start with, but people want to customize, so the lighter it is the less gui's to do so, that is a general thing though.
[04:56] <quarters> but also would like a distribution that is kind of ideal for practicing developing web apps
[04:57] <wileee> quarters, People do everyday, we see them here, I would not know personally is all.
[04:57] <wileee> using not necessarily practicing
[04:59] <wileee> quarters, Best of luck, I have to take off for a while.
[04:59] <quarters> wileee: thank you
[05:00] <wileee> np
[05:05] <Caelum> what is the release after vivid called?
[05:19] <fahad> hi
[05:19] <fahad> ruben
[05:22] <epikthereaper> is anyone here?
[05:23] <admin__> yeah.im here
[05:23] <epikthereaper> can you help me?
[05:23] <epikthereaper> i dont want to resort to asking /g/ lol
[05:24] <TJ-> No, you're a lost cause until you tell us your issue!
[05:24] <TJ-> !ask | epikthereaper
[05:27] <epikthereaper> im using an 8gb flash drive to boot ubuntu on my PC (No HDD, had to improvise) but its saying only 2gb of the 8gb are usable. How do i fix this? I've already tried to create a primary partition on cmd on a windows computer. im trying to install steam and all the packages it needs, but there simply isnt enough space on the drive.
[05:28] <Mathis> epikthereaper: you are trying to install on that stick?
[05:28] <TJ-> epikthereaper: it depends on how you created the image on the device; if you used a persistent Live ISO install, then part of the image is read-only and another part is made read-write for storing changes
[05:29] <TJ-> epikthereaper: if however you installed Ubuntu directly to the USB as you would to a regular hard disk, then the space available should be total - used
[05:30] <epikthereaper> i used "universal USB installer" to create it, so im inclined to say it was the former
[05:30] <mrmilk> Hey guys im trying to install the libgnutls 32-bit library but i can only find the command for arch linux not unbuntu?
[05:34] <epikthereaper_> anyways, what should i do to make it all available?
[05:34] <mrmilk> Guys whats the unbuntu alternative for this commmand?sudo pacman -S lib32-gnutls
[05:34] <Ben64> mrmilk: what does it do
[05:34] <Mathis> epikthereaper_: try adding another partition using fdisk
[05:34] <TJ-> epikthereaper: It sounds as if there simply isn't enough space left. At a terminal do "df -h" to check the remaining space on the mounted devices
[05:35] <mrmilk> installs libgnutls 32-bit library
[05:35] <Mathis> or gdisk
[05:35] <mrmilk> ben64: It installs libgnutls 32-bit library
[05:36] <TJ-> mrmilk: "sudo apt-get install <package>"  .... on Debian/Ubuntu we install foreign architectures a different way, using multilib
[05:36] <Ben64> mrmilk: sudo apt-get install libgnutls28
[05:36] <epikthereaper_> so i looked at "disks" and it shows the drive as 8.2 gb, but when i go on "disk usage analyzer" it says there is only 2 gb in total
[05:37] <mrmilk> Ben64: its says Unable to locate package libgnutls28
[05:37] <epikthereaper_> also, i did the "sudo df -h" and i have the results, but idk what to look for
[05:37] <TJ-> mrmilk: First we tell the package manager it can install packages from another architecture ("sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386")  then update the packages list ("sudo apt-get update") then install the packages we want, specifying the foreign architecture with the suffix ":i386"
[05:37] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: can you pastebin the results for us?
[05:37] <TJ-> !paste | epikthereaper_
[05:38] <Ben64> mrmilk: what version of ubuntu
[05:38] <mrmilk> Latest gnome 3
[05:38] <mrmilk> 15.04
[05:39] <Ben64> what is the output of lsb_release -r
[05:39] <kirank> hi
[05:39] <mrmilk> 15.04
[05:39] <epikthereaper_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12077365/
[05:39] <mrmilk> TJ: ok ive done those to comands now what?
[05:40] <Ben64> oh they must have changed the package name in 15.04
[05:40] <TJ-> mrmilk: Tell the system to support multiarch executable and libraries with "sudo apt-get install multiarch-support"
[05:40] <mrmilk> Ben64: so how do we find the new name?
[05:41] <Ben64> what is your goal
[05:41] <mrmilk> to fix cnoection issue when im trying to run rocket league through wine
[05:42] <TJ-> mrmilk: Now to identify the correct package. First find out the library version currently installed for the native host architecture with "dpkg -l 'libgnutls*'  "
[05:43] <mrmilk> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description +++-[05:43] <TJ-> mrmilk: On my system I see "libgnutls26" ... so I'd install the same package for i386: "sudo apt-get install libgnutls26:i386"
[05:43] <epikthereaper_> did my pastebin irl work?
[05:44] <mrmilk> E: Package 'libgnutls26:i386' has no installation candidate
[05:44] <mrmilk> TJ: E: Package 'libgnutls26:i386' has no installation candidate
[05:45] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: yes. The first line, /cow, means there's a Copy-On-Write file-system, which also confirms that you're using a peristent live ISO image. The /dev/sdb1 mounted at /cdrom/ suggests there is 6.7G remaining under that mount point, which I'd assume is the underlying file-system for the COW, but I've not used the persistent image in so long I forget now how it is arranged
[05:45] <mrmilk> Package libgnutls26:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[05:47] <epikthereaper_> im pretty sure all the program did was burn the iso onto the USB drive
[05:48] <TJ-> mrmilk: It seems you're already using the i386 architecture, and that package "libgnutls-deb0" is the 32-bit version
[05:48] <epikthereaper_> can i mount the /cow onto the /cdrom?
[05:49] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: It may be worth going back to the documentation for the USB image creator program to find out how it does persistent images - the Ubuntu way I recall would overlay the free space on top of the live image so any file changes you made were saved and masked out the original files
[05:51] <epikthereaper_> TJ-: i dont know how to do that, i have the program open on another computer so i can check right now if you can walk me through it
[05:51] <epikthereaper_> however i cant remove the USB right now as it is what is booting the computer im using right now
[05:52] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: looking here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:52] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: it seems to show in the last dialog image that you can select in Step 4 the size of the persistent space at install time
[05:53] <epikthereaper_> TJ-: thats the exact guide i used to make the pendrive
[05:53] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: but there's no info there as to how it arranges that unfortunately
[05:54] <epikthereaper_> alright, i will try that, ill be back soon to report the results
[05:54] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: following links gets me to http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/   where there's a link to Persistence
[05:55] <TJ-> epikthereaper_: which tells us everything about it except how it does it in the installed image!
[06:07] <peen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12077433/
[06:07] <peen> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[06:07] <peen> is there 50GB missing?
[06:08] <peen> from the /home mountpoint FYI
[06:09] <peen> can anyone help?
[06:09] <eduard> что случилось?
[06:10] <eduard> Есть кто-то русскоговорящий?
[06:10] <TJ-> !ru | eduard
[06:10] <eduard> #ubuntu-ru
[06:11] <TJ-> peen: I'd guest you've recently deleted some large files but there's a process still got file descriptors open to them
[06:13] <peen> i'd think that
[06:13] <peen> if i hadn't rebooted multiple times
[06:13] <peen> and ran an fsck
[06:13] <Flannel> peen: "size" includes the reserved space, used/avail do not.
[06:13] <TJ-> peen: what is the underlying file-system type on md0? And what type of MD is that? RAID1 maybe?
[06:14] <peen> ext4 and yea RAID1
[06:14] <peen> 2 1TB drives
[06:16] <TJ-> peen: As Flannel said... you'll probably see approx  5GB reserved per 100GB  of user space... so on a 1000GB drive you'd expect about 50GB reserved
[06:16] <peen> reserved for what?
[06:16] <peen> Virtual Mem?
[06:16] <seminoob> How do I uninstall software that came pre-installed without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop? The two I've tried so far are Software Center and Gedit. Google didn't turn up any results for me
[06:17] <peen> sudo apt-get remove gedit?
[06:17] <TJ-> peen: reserved for the file-system structures. You do want it to keep track of where your data is, and the file-names, don't you?
[06:17] <seminoob> peen: when I do that it also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:18] <wileee> seminoob, What is the end goal?
[06:18] <seminoob> To get rid of software I don't use
[06:18] <peen> seminoob: I wouldn't worry about it
[06:18] <peen> its probably taking up a negligible amount of space
[06:18] <peen> couple MB if that
[06:19] <wafflejock> seminoob: you can check the disk usage app if you care
[06:19] <TJ-> seminoob: if "ubuntu-desktop" has a dependency on the package you remove, then it gets removed to. However, "ubuntu-desktop" is a virtual package in theory it shouldn't matter, although if you remove it any updates to it won't be pulled in any longer
[06:19] <wafflejock> like peen said it doesn't really matter
[06:19] <seminoob> okay, I'll just leave it then. thanks
[06:19] <peen> use nano
[06:19] <wileee> seminoob, THere are easier ways in ubuntu, a mini net install, and other OS's that are easier to do this as they are light already.
[06:34] <nobunga> hey guys
[06:34] <nobunga> hows everyone tonight?
[06:38] <wileee> we're chillin nobunga
[06:39] <nobunga> i am curious why in the basic linux commands vid im watching it says to use a "/" to change directories but I can only do that when I exclude the "/"
[06:39] <nobunga> ?
[06:39] <Ben64> nobunga: explain more
[06:40] <nobunga> realy?
[06:40] <nobunga> ok
[06:40] <nobunga> so i " cd Downloads" and it goes to Downloads
[06:41] <nobunga> when i type "cd /Downloads" i get a no such directory type error
[06:41] <nobunga> i know , i suck
[06:41] <Ben64> yeah, because its not at /Downloads
[06:41] <nobunga> ?
[06:42] <Ben64> / = the top level directory, the root directory
[06:42] <nobunga> stupid azz tutorial im watching say it is and he is demonstrating it in a live terminal
[06:42] <TuquiTuqui> Hi. Isn't there some font that will allow me to type greek letters? e.g. like "symbols" on windows?
[06:42] <Ben64> nobunga: if the folder you want to go to is in the directory you are in, then you use use that
[06:43] <Ben64> if you want to go to /home/ben/Downloads then you need to type it like that
[06:43] <nobunga> right same as dos
[06:43] <Ben64> no
[06:43] <nobunga> that was my instinct
[06:43] <nobunga> ?
[06:43] <Ben64> not like dos at all
[06:43] <nobunga> ok
[06:43] <vickydasta> The Downloads directory is actually in ~ folder, so if you add / before it, the cd command will check for the Downloads folder in system directory
[06:44] <nobunga> i should prolly dige you some of my dogecoin cus my stupidity might astound you
[06:44] <nobunga> ok cool
[06:44] <nobunga> ok i get it
[06:45] <nobunga> almost
[06:47] <nobunga> what do you mean by system directory? a literal directory named "system" ?
[06:47] <Ben64> the root directory
[06:47] <nobunga> ok
[06:49] <nobunga> any chance you guys have a link to a linux for retards type tutorial?
[06:49] <nobunga> i might be too stupid for this
[06:53] <ubunu> how to route iptable two interface in same machine...?
[06:56] <TuquiTuqui> nobunga there was an irish (or norwegian, I don't remember) site that had a lot of info about linux in general. Not that I learnt a lot from it, but it made things look uncomplicated. Do you know how to install linux? e.g. partitioning and all of that? if not, maybe that's the first thing you should learn
[06:59] <Carl_Miller> Hrm
[06:59] <Carl_Miller> I tried to copy the contents of my Windows installation's FONTS folder into ~/.fonts on Ubuntu 15.04. However, after the fonts finished copying but before I had a chance to update the font cache, Ubuntu froze, and now freezes (with CPU fan at 100%) on sign-on. Halp?
[07:04] <Ben64> Carl_Miller: have you tried deleting !/.fonts
[07:05] <Ben64> ~/.fonts
[07:05] <Carl_Miller> No, because I can't sign in
[07:05] <Carl_Miller> (and iirc recovery mode is read-only)
[07:05] <Ben64> it isn't
[07:05] <cfhowlett> Carl_Miller, false.  otherwise = no recovery possible.
[07:05] <bojan> HI anyone please guide me why my client types anything will take time means slow performance
[07:05] <bojan> All my clients computer giving slow performance for past two days
[07:06] <bojan> I am using GDM
[07:06] <cfhowlett> bojan, not enough data to analyze.  "slow" means ... what exactly?
[07:07] <astroduck> Hi, I'm getting "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?" from synclient. How do I load the drivers?
[07:07] <astroduck> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04
[07:07] <bojan> cfhowlett:IF i type a word it takes some time to print
[07:07] <bojan> on screen
[07:08] <bojan> cfhowlett:am using LTSP here...It was working good but for past two days it starts creating problem like this
[07:08] <gartral> does anyone know why google-chrome has a stupidly over-sized interface?!
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !ltsp | bojan, ah.  I've no experience with LTSP
[07:13] <cfhowlett> gartral, don't like it = don't use it.  ask that question to the google-chrome designers.
[07:13] <astroduck> help? :(
[07:13] <gartral> cfhowlett: it seenms to be an ubuntu-related issue
[07:13] <cfhowlett> gartral, google-chrome is NOT ubuntu ...
[07:14] <cfhowlett> nor is their interface
[07:14] <gartral> cfhowlett: the issue is isolated
[07:14] <cfhowlett> gartral, i.e. ONLY on GC?
[07:15] <gartral> cfhowlett: as in ONLY in CG, ONLY ON UBUNTU
[07:16] <gartral> cfhowlett: cg on: fedora works, arch works, debian works, gentoo works... etc... etc... only CG on UBUNTU exibits this issue
[07:17] <cfhowlett> gartral, try GC's unbranded twin: chromium?
[07:17] <gartral> cfhowlett: I lose too much, i lose youtube, netflix, etc
[07:19] <lamppid> How i can start proccess who using only swap instead of ram ?
[07:20] <wileee> lamppid, why?
[07:22] <lamppid> because i have one process who need abouts 50gb if i run it it's use my full ram and after this only use swap and i cannot work..
[07:23] <Norrin> does anyone know why wiki.gnome.org is down?
[07:23] <wileee> lamppid, Yes it's using the swap, that's why it's slow.
[07:23] <peen> maintenance
[07:23] <wileee> starting with swap makes no sense to me anyway
[07:23] <lamppid> i just need run this proccess use only psychical memory (swap) not ram
[07:23] <peen> --forcephysram flag
[07:24] <Norrin> peen, that's a definite? it was announced somewhere?
[07:24] <peen> just a guess
[07:24] <peen> but definitely plausible
[07:25] <peen> http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/wiki.gnome.org.html
[07:25] <lamppid> wileee, why do you think with swap makes no sense ?
[07:25] <peen> NAILED IT
[07:25] <gartral> hey all, why does my browser look like it's on a monitor from the 80s? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2015-08-1403-24-26.php
[07:25] <Ben64> lamppid: it doesn't make sense because its not possible
[07:25] <wileee> lamppid, Swapping is the issue your having, using the swap is swapping.
[07:26] <Norrin> peen, how do they know?
[07:26] <Norrin> i think that's right at this point also, just curious
[07:26] <cfhowlett> gartral, suggest using something other than zimage.  image is too small to see clearly and zoom in/enlarge not offered.
[07:27] <lamppid> ok maybe it's possible if i can limit use only 1-2gb ram for this process everything else using in swap?
[07:27] <fidel_> cfhowlett: context - show image in new tab might help - but i agree - stupid host
[07:27] <Ben64> lamppid: probably no
[07:27] <fidel_> gartral: i dont see what looks like a 80s monitor display quality in that pic
[07:28] <gartral> fidel_: the interface is like 600x480!
[07:28] <gartral> fidel_: it's frigging giant and I can't shrink it
[07:29] <fidel_> gartral: for me it looks like you are using some kind of theme or similar - or am i wrong?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> gartral, fidel "accessibility" options???
[07:30] <gartral> fidel_: I'm using a theme, but it doesn't matter, the interface "Grew
[07:32] <gartral> fidel_: for perspective, you're looking at a 1280p screenshot
[07:32] <lamppid> Ok, can i just limit ram usage for one process?
[07:33] <Ben64> lamppid: still no
[07:33] <lamppid> i can't believe
[07:33] <Ben64> you said it needs 50GB of ram, you should get more ram.
[07:34] <Ben64> or perhaps a program that doesn't require so much
[07:34] <cfhowlett> !  50 of RAM?? what the heck are you running!?
[07:34] <epikthereaper> just go on ebay and download some more RAM, not that hard to do
[07:34] <lamppid> :D
[07:35] <lamppid> i use python to analyze a very big pictures like a 100 000px X 100 000px
[07:36] <jpg> ask for a registration code
[07:36] <cfhowlett> lamppid, anything requiring that kind of ram load is probably better addressed by a server (farm) or serious workstation.
[07:37] <BeDieJokowi> Really that big?
[07:37] <BeDieJokowi> What kind of pic is that? A porn?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> BeDieJokowi, I've NEVER seen an application requesting 50 gb of ram, so yeah - larger than normal.
[07:38] <BeDieJokowi> Me neither
[07:38] <SuperStink> need some help setting up wifi
[07:38] <SuperStink> just install ubuntu for first time
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !wifi | SuperStink
[07:39] <SuperStink> ok
[07:51] <kako> Hi, I'm wondering why I can't find the libt1-dev package for 15.04. Was the name changed? Is there an alternative?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !info libt1-dev vivid
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !info libt1-dev
[07:51] <somsip> !find libt
[07:53] <epikthereaper> my whole computer is running slower than usual, im booting off a pendrive and i decided to allocate more persistant space and now its slow. i would just start over and not allocate the space, but i desperately need it. how can i make it run like it did before i allocated the persistant space?
[07:53] <Ben64> epikthereaper: get a hard drive. flash drives are slow
[07:53] <cfhowlett> epikthereaper, pendrive OS will ALWAYS be slow.
[07:53] <kako> From the package description the libxfont1 seems to be close to what I'm searching for, but there is also no libt1.(a|so) in there (http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/vivid/amd64/libxfont1/filelist)
[07:55] <epikthereaper> i expected it to be slow, but not this slow. it worked at a normal speed before i allocated it though, thats the only reason i ask.
[07:55] <cfhowlett> epikthereaper, Ben64 made a great suggestion: external HDD
[07:57] <wreckingball> Hello!
[07:58] <wreckingball> What is the version of ubuntu that is privacy minded and starts with a t? I can't seem to remember the name and it is killing me!
[07:58] <Ben64> tails maybe, but its not supported in this channel
[07:59] <wreckingball> Not tails... it was very similar though.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> wreckingball, tails 2.0 not supported here.
[08:01] <cfhowlett> wreckingball, good luck:    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-focused_operating_system
[08:01] <wreckingball> cfhowlett: Thank you, it wasn't tails though. It was like the ancient greek god...
[08:02] <wreckingball> Ok I was looking through that list!
[08:02] <caway> Tor
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !tor | wreckingball
[08:03]  * cfhowlett wouldn't call TOR an OS but .... whatever
[08:03] <wreckingball> It wasn't tor... it isn't an OS.
[08:04] <caway> Something on T...
[08:04] <wreckingball> It was an ancient sea greek god or something. I thought it started with a T
[08:04] <wreckingball> This is going to really bother me ha
[08:04] <Ben64> whatever it is, it doesn't belong in this channel
[08:04] <wreckingball> I think it was an ubuntu distro
[08:04] <wreckingball> It just had a few configurations added.
[08:04] <Ben64> then it isn't ubuntu
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !flavors | wreckingball, nope.
[08:06] <wreckingball> So if I take ubuntu and install a few applications, then image it and name is "Sexy Mofobuntu
[08:06] <wreckingball> it isn't ubuntu?
[08:06] <cfhowlett> wreckingball, absolutely not.
[08:06] <wreckingball> Ok lol
[08:06] <wreckingball> Only vanila ubuntu
[08:09] <badbodh> ubuntu has separate channels for other DE-s
[08:10] <swatti> someone using a lenovo y510p? u14.04(ultrabay)
[08:11] <DJones> swatti: Yes
[08:11] <wreckingball> Alright, I appreciate you guys!
[08:11] <DJones> swatti: Although upgraded to 15.04 since
[08:13] <swatti> i have a porblem. that use of the machine? intel or nvidia vga? a and what kind of driver you are using?
[08:13] <swatti> booting and crash.. always
[08:14] <DJones> swatti: I did a straight ubuntu install, then added nvidia-prime and it has worked perfectly, I can switch between the Nvidia and intel graphics cards as needed
[08:14] <swatti> recovery options if display manager fail to start
[08:14] <swatti> :D
[08:14] <swatti> and you install intel vga or not?
[08:15] <DJones> swatti: No, just basic ubuntu install & added the nvidia-prime, nothing else
[08:15] <swatti> aham ok ty
[08:17] <wreckingball> Does AMD like Ubuntu?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> wreckingball, compared to Intel and Nvidi, AMD ... tolerates linux
[08:17] <cfhowlett> *Nvidia*
[08:17] <wreckingball> :D
[08:18] <wreckingball> I have a 3 year old asus rog and I seek refuge from windows but... games :D
[08:18] <swatti> green force
[08:18] <wreckingball> I am trying to quit gaming. This would do it for me.
[08:18] <swatti> :D
[08:18] <wreckingball> green force?
[08:18] <peen> quit gaming?!
[08:18] <cfhowlett> wreckingball, they say they'll do better, but given a choice, AMD is generally best voided IMHO
[08:18] <peen> FILTHY CASUAL!
[08:18] <peen> SHAME
[08:18] <wreckingball> peen: Yeah... I dunno. I feel like I am wasting time or something ya know?
[08:20] <BeDieJokowi1> Me too. World is not a safe place anymore
[08:20] <BallerShotCaller> peen: What do you do when you feel depressed and just meh when you play games?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> BallerShotCaller, rapid/repeated nick changes are annoying.  choose one.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ONE
[08:20] <BallerShotCaller> cfhowlett: Yes, I was mucking with a friend, apologies.
[08:21] <dark_kalyx> This will be mine I think.
[08:21] <BeDieJokowi1> Meh is good choice word
[08:21] <dark_kalyx> Ye?
[08:22] <BeDieJokowi1> Think so
[08:28] <sssppp1010> part
[08:29] <sdfsf> hi
[08:30] <BeDieJokowi1> Whats ur question sdfsf
[08:32] <sdfsf> my server hp is dead, in this server i have 5 disks (OS Windows 2008 R2 with VM Hyper-V), i can install these disks in ubuntu OS without losing data?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !server | sdfsf, might want to ask the server channel for recommendations
[08:43] <philip_> Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary why this error message
[08:44] <k1l> philip_: its not "aligned"
[08:45] <philip_> aligned kindly explain
[08:46] <k1l> philip_: this answer does: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156994/partition-does-not-start-on-physical-sector-boundary
[08:48] <philip_> but when that error is it going to have effect on the system if not resolved
[08:51] <hello0> So queit here
[08:53] <cfhowlett> hello0, ask your ubuntu support question
[09:03] <philip_> kindly explain what sector size means
[09:08] <philip_> kindly explain what sector size means
[09:08] <somsip> philip_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Capacity
[09:18] <slaffe> Hi guys, I could need some help here. Anyone availiable?
[09:18] <somsip> slaffe: just ask and someone will help if they can
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !help | slaffe
[09:19] <slaffe> Ok, my bad.
[09:19] <slaffe> Ok, i run a daily backup on my ubuntu server looking like this
[09:19] <slaffe> tar cvpzf Backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/NAS --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / >/dev/null 2>&1
[09:20] <slaffe> Today I been following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR?highlight=%28\bCategoryBackupRecovery\b%29
[09:20] <slaffe> So today I booted up with a live cd and figured id try to restore from the backup file
[09:20] <Ice_Strike> How do I improve the performance when I Use vnc to ubuntu?
[09:20] <Ice_Strike> It is suck and sluggish
[09:20] <Ice_Strike> On the LAN
[09:20] <slaffe> but when I opened gparted it could not reqognize the filesystem
[09:21] <slaffe> i tried to mount it but i just got filesystem unknown LVM2_member
[09:21] <slaffe> How am I supposed to restore from my backup if I can not mount the disk?
[09:21] <slaffe> Do I need to delete the partition andcreate a new one with ext4?
[09:22] <slaffe> figured I could just mount it, erase everything and execute the restoring of the backupfile and it'll be done
[09:22] <slaffe> How do I go from here?
[09:22] <slaffe> Guide dosn´t mention antyhing about this, it's just straight forward
[09:22] <sysrex> slaffe, LVM2 memeber, you have LVM configured
[09:23] <slaffe> ya
[09:23] <slaffe> i suppose
[09:23] <sysrex> https://quonn.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/how-to-mount-lvm-partition-on-ubuntu/
[09:23] <sysrex> boot from live and then look in here
[09:24] <sysrex> you need to scan the volume group and then activate it afterwards you scan the logical volume and mount it
[09:24] <sysrex> ping if you need help
[09:24] <slaffe> awesome, i'll get right to it. Thanks a bunch budy, you probably saved my day, or two. I'll get back to you if I need help. Thanks again!
[09:26] <sysrex> slaffe, no worries mate
[09:26] <Ice_Strike> How do I improve the performance when I Use vnc to ubuntu?
[09:26] <Ice_Strike> It is suck and sluggish, on LAN
[09:28] <x4w3> Ice_Strike: configurate it in slower quality.
[09:31] <Ice_Strike> How do I change the theme to something really light?
[09:31] <Ice_Strike> lightweight
[09:40] <slaffe> thanks sysrex. Now I was able to mount the disk.
[09:40] <sysrex> way to go, have fun now
[09:40] <slaffe> I've got another question that is.. In the guide it says Restoring Grub. This does not make sense to me
[09:40] <slaffe> sudo -s
[09:40] <slaffe> for f in dev dev/pts proc ; do mount --bind /$f /media/whatever/$f ; done
[09:40] <slaffe> chroot /media/whatever
[09:40] <slaffe> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[09:41] <sysrex> you want to restore your disk
[09:41] <sysrex> or just retrieve the files so that you can reinstall
[09:41] <slaffe> where should I put this? :S
[09:41] <slaffe> restore the disk
[09:41] <slaffe> i mounted it now, following your info, so I deleted all files on it and extracted the ones from the backup file
[09:42] <slaffe> Now I need to restore the grub too
[09:42] <wileee> slaffe, It is to chroot from a live to the install.
[09:42] <slaffe> hmm?
[09:42] <sysrex> basically, you can chroot when you have your disk mounted
[09:42] <sysrex> just like running on the mounted disk
[09:42] <wileee> !chroot | slaffe
[09:42] <slaffe> aha
[09:43] <sysrex> yeah, ubottu can explain it better
[09:43] <marenz> greetings
[09:43] <sysrex> if I were you, I would just get my files and reinstall
[09:43] <slaffe> so i'll just chroot to the mounted dir and do a dpkg-reconfigure then?
[09:43] <sysrex> chroot /mnt/mounted and then from there you can restore your grub
[09:44] <slaffe> just put my files bck and reinstall? Wont the ubuntu overwrite the files?
[09:44] <marenz> I just installed ubuntu from a minimal install. In there I also installed xorg and a wm. Where is the config on what WM/binaries xorg starts after "startx"?
[09:44] <sysrex> slaffe, copy your files outside the box, and then reinstall
[09:44] <sysrex> on an external device / remote device
[09:45] <slaffe> BUt this backup is to backup all the configure files and all that has been configured, so I dont have to do all the work again
[09:45] <slaffe> That was my point of creating this daily backup
[09:45] <slaffe> litterly creating a mirror of the server
[09:47] <slaffe> point was if something goes bad, since I am new to linux I could just easily erase everything and put the files back in from the backup
[09:47] <slaffe> so I dont have to install and configure everything :S
[09:47] <sysrex> I undrestand
[09:47] <sysrex> then chroot and try to fix your grub
[09:47] <slaffe> that is?
[09:47] <sysrex> however, it would be important to know how you got into this situation in the first place
[09:48] <slaffe> I am actually not doing this on the server atm.
[09:48] <slaffe> I got two identicly machines
[09:48] <wileee> slaffe, Do you remember encrypting?
[09:48] <slaffe> So I am trying this on the second machine just to make sure how to do it if I need to in the future :P
[09:49] <slaffe> I installed ubuntu server on the second machine just a few hours ago and then booted up the live cd
[09:49] <slaffe> then came here :)
[09:49] <slaffe> No wileee I did not encryp enything
[09:52] <ManDulan> Good morning my friends. I have a new laptop and I would like to NOT use the nvidia drivers neither the noveau one. How can I disable all? I want to use the integrated graphic card from Intel.
[09:52] <slaffe> so, when I run the dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, whould the linux command lines be empty?
[09:53] <slaffe> i mean, they are empty in the /dev/default/grub config
[09:53] <slaffe> erm, /etc/
[09:53] <wileee> slaffe, seems your issue is mounting the lvm, nice info on the web, I g=have not followed you totally, but I saw that error.
[09:55] <fishcooker> if i have a list of packages a b c and d in case no dependency between them... which one will be installed on the first place?
[09:55] <slaffe> i can mount the lvm, no problem there. syrex helped me there
[09:55] <wileee> cool, I was not following, carry on
[10:03] <noidea> hi everyone, can somebody help me with a problem regarding installing ubuntu on a mmc? i get an error in grub and install can not finish...
[10:04] <Ben64> !details | noidea
[10:05] <Guest88691>  is there any android emulator for ubuntu?
[10:06] <popey> Guest88691: there is an android SDK which contains an emulator
[10:06] <noidea> ubottu: i am trying to install ubuntu via usb on a mmc next to windows 8.1. installation starts without a problem, i choose the partition and format it ( mmcblk0p5 ) and install is copying files,...
[10:07] <noidea> ... but at one point it just stops giving out an error message that grub-install failed
[10:07] <popey> Guest88691: https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html is where you get android studio - the sdk
[10:10] <Guest88691> thanq
[10:16] <AndChat196224> Question is inspired by Mr.Robot: like if have stored some image in linux x now I want to see this image in graphical user interface what Is the command to that
[10:17] <Mandeep_Singh> AndChat196224, eog image-name
[10:18] <AndChat196224> Mandeep_Singh thanx very much
[10:20] <hateball> AndChat196224: xdg-open <file> may be a better option, it will use your default application in case it is not eog. same goes for any file
[10:21] <AndChat196224> Okay hateball loved u r feedback
[10:23] <AndChat196224> hateball: same command I saw inMr.robot thanks again
[10:30] <guest-cXv5XB> hows it going
[10:31] <AndChat196224> What guest-cXv5XB
[10:32] <guest-cXv5XB> hows it going mate
[10:33] <sysrex> all good guest-cXv5XB
[10:33] <sysrex> yourself?
[10:33] <guest-cXv5XB> when u guys from
[10:34] <sysrex> the dark side of the internet
[10:35] <philip__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078454/ want to incrase the ?root Directory
[10:36] <guest-cXv5XB> sysrex u wanna shut shit down
[10:36] <sysrex> I would watch my language if I were you
[10:39] <dupingping> who can help me?
[10:39] <dupingping> who knows about grub2?
[10:39] <dupingping> grub2 has a big error.
[10:39] <hateball> !fixgrub | dupingping
[10:41] <philip__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078454/ want to incrase the ?root Directory
[10:42] <kokut> Hello when i dpkg -i *.deb where is the root directory?
[10:42] <kokut> if i'm user@machine~$: ?
[10:43] <kokut> nvm
[10:44] <Guest66801> #include<iostream>
[10:44] <Guest66801> using namespace std;
[10:44] <Guest66801> int main()
[10:44] <Guest66801> {
[10:44] <Guest66801>     int i=23;
[10:44] <Guest66801>     // JUST ENTER ANY FLOAT VALUE LIKE 2.222
[10:48] <philip__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078454/ want to incrase the ?root Directory
[10:51] <kokut> I have latest google chrome but accidentally tried to install the .deb package i downloaded a year ago, then cancelled with ctrl-c whe it was unpacking, now it keeps telling me its half installed (although i'm using the latest version) is there a way to fix this?
[10:52] <kokut> ?
[10:57] <kevininspain> Good afternoon all. I am back with Ubuntu again after 4 years with windows and apple lol. Can anyone remind me how to make a screen grab ??
[10:58] <hateball> kevininspain: Press print screen
[10:58] <kevininspain> ah !! as easy as that hahaha. OK thanks
[10:59] <pitastrudl> so how can i check what is using my ram, top or htop only show percentage, someone gave me ps_mem but out of the 800mb used it only shows the apps that use about 200mb and im still not sure wha the other 600mb are used for
[11:00] <TJ-> !mem | pitastrudl
[11:01] <kevininspain> It's nice to be back on Ubuntu again, I forgot just how reliable it is after wasting hours with windows 8 then 8.1 and windows 10 finally did it for me. I can't spend ages every time I open a PC to let it do what it wants before I can start work.
[11:02] <pitastrudl> haha
[11:02] <pitastrudl> ty TJ-
[11:02] <pitastrudl> nice webpage
[11:05] <kokut> http://goo.gl/cGHskH any ideas would be greatly appreciated
[11:07] <hateball> kokut: removing chrome wont remove your user data
[11:09] <kokut> hateball: how so?
[11:09] <karmic_koala> hi all (-:
[11:09] <not1but2> Hi koala
[11:09] <hateball> kokut: Your user data is stored in ~/.config/ and uninstalling Chrome (or any other app) wont touch that
[11:10] <hateball> kokut: It simply removes the applications binaries/libs, so if you reinstall it will pick up your data
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:10] <kokut> hateball: thats seems really unconvenient i doubt anyone configured a package like that
[11:10] <hateball> Uh...
[11:10] <kokut> that way my hard drive would be full of random data from apps i uninstalled years ago
[11:10] <karmic_koala> has smbdy an idea if there's something already existing  or think it would be fun constructing smthng that would integrate into unity (maybe) and has functions like the windows10 starmenu - just in terms of showing a weather app, the news, the mails etc ?
[11:11] <hateball> kokut: Yes
[11:11] <kokut> hateball: also, i dont want to reinstall a package that is working fine just for a silly error message there has to be another way
[11:12] <karmic_koala> there was a tool i used a few years ago, forgot the name. i did the indicator applet with it under bodhi...
[11:14] <dionysus69> anyone know an active irc channel for cyptography?
[11:15] <philip__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078454/ want to incrase the ?root Directory
[11:17] <_joey> I have pulseaudio and wireless keyboard & mouse. After a little while volume control appears in the top right corner vibrating and keyboard freezes. Mouse is still working. Is there a known issue?
[11:18] <atralheaven_> dionysus69: I'm looking for it too! tell me if you found a good channel
[11:18] <not1but2> _joey time to replace
[11:18] <dionysus69> atralheaven_: found it, #crypto
[11:18] <_joey> to replace what?
[11:18] <TJ-> dionysus69: atralheaven_ ##crypto ... some of the top bods there
[11:19] <dionysus69> TJ-: thanks :)
[11:20] <_joey> To MS Windows 10?
[11:20] <atralheaven_> thanks!
[11:20] <_joey> Good idea. I need to shell out $2,000 for a good system that runs MS Windows 10 fast
[11:21] <zzarr> can I run 15.04 in a chroot on an embedded linux device (arm + debian)?
[11:22] <TJ-> zzarr: if the packages are available and the device has the capability, yes
[11:23] <zzarr> okey, is there a guide for how the network works for chroots?
[11:23] <not1but2> You take chroot too far
[11:24] <not1but2> Chroot is for folder
[11:24] <not1but2> Maybe you meant virtualization
[11:24] <zzarr> I know
[11:24] <TJ-> zzarr: same as the host, as in, it uses the host config
[11:24] <zzarr> thanks TJ- I think I over thought it
[11:24] <TJ-> zzarr: the only thing to remember is, if you want DNS resolution, to bind-mount /etc/resolv.conf into the chroot so the configured nameservers get used
[11:25] <_joey> had to reboot as keyboard froze again
[11:25] <_joey> anyone replied to me?:)
[11:25] <zzarr> yes
[11:25] <zzarr> thanks
[11:26] <not1but2> _joey: just give your keyboard to your dog for his toy
[11:28] <mcphail> _joey: what sort of keyboard is it? If it is a Logitech, I share some of your pain
[11:32] <_joey> It's not keyboard , it the system . I found the bug : https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/3275
[11:33] <_joey> 2015 and linux desktop is as shitty as ever
[11:33] <x4w3> xD
[11:34] <x4w3> i don't like quiet splash screen, unity, upstart, ... :)
[11:36] <_joey> aparently it maybe happening after hitting alt-tab to switch between applications
[11:36] <_joey> lmao
[11:36] <mcphail> _joey: neither mint nor cinnammon are supported here
[11:37] <_joey> it does not matter. the issue exists on all related distros
[11:37] <kevininspain> Hi. how can I use as default the nick I am using "kevininspain" as I have to type it in every time I start xchat, can't find anything under settings !
[11:37] <ioria> Network List
[11:38] <ioria> Xchat -> Network List
[11:38] <Fuchs> kevininspain: it is in the network list, but consider updating to hexchat, xchat is deprecated and no longer maintained
[11:40] <kevininspain> Hi OK thanks guys, is hexchat in the software center or does it need to be downloaded via terminal ?
[11:40] <ibmt43> hexchat
[11:40] <cfhowlett> !hexchat
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !info hexchat
[11:41] <kevininspain> always been a bit of a dumbass using terminal lol
[11:41] <kevininspain> OK will have a look
[11:41] <kevininspain> thanks
[11:42] <hateball> kevininspain: It should be in the software center, it's all the same
[11:42] <nu> could you help me start networkmanager http://dpaste.com/3E1AT1T
[11:42] <hateball> kevininspain: it's usually faster to just type "sudo apt-get install hexchat" if you're used to it tho :)
[11:42] <BluesKaj> kevininspain:use the package manager as a reference , but the terminal to install
[11:42] <kevininspain> #hateball OK thanks
[11:43] <Blackhatcomingso> hi guys thats my first chat :P
[11:43] <ioria> nu sudo service network-manager start ?
[11:43] <kevininspain> Hmm
[11:43] <Blackhatcomingso> how are you guys
[11:43] <Blackhatcomingso> ?
[11:44] <kevininspain> been 4 years since I have been on Ubuntu guys so am a bit rusty....will give it a go
[11:44] <nu> http://dpaste.com/0Q2WDR9 ioria
[11:44] <kevininspain> got sick to the teeth of the fight between Windows and Apple lol
[11:46] <Blackhatcomingso> today's i am hang a website.. feeling awesome :)
[11:46] <ioria> nu wifi ?
[11:47] <kevininspain> OK I have it installed so will close down this one and try the other .......
[11:50] <kmz> hello is someone here ?
[11:52] <zzarr> I got this message running "apt-get update" in a chrooted vivid "W: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch"
[11:56] <mnr> hello everyone
[11:56] <zzarr> hello
[11:57] <Guest49447> I need some help
[11:58] <Guest49447> my system is getting slow graphics perfonace
[11:59] <zzarr> I get this message about systemd when I try to install ssh http://pastebin.com/Mk3Eh6Ew
[11:59] <bkubuddy> every body! After nine months of security and maintenance support, what will happen to Ubuntu 15.04??
[11:59] <Guest49447> slow graphics performance , anyone can help?
[12:02] <bkubuddy> [19:00] (bkubuddy) every body! After nine months of security and maintenance support, what will happen to Ubuntu 15.04??
[12:02] <mnr12> hello everyone
[12:03] <mnr12> I need some help
[12:03] <kevininspain> when answering someone and you want to add their Nick what do I have to type in before the Nick ??
[12:03] <TJ-> !tab | kevininspain
[12:04] <Fuchs> kevininspain: nothing, whether they get highlighted depends on their client, though. If you want a private conversation:  /msg nick Your message   or  /query Nick your message
[12:04] <Fuchs> note that a lot of people consider a private message rude when not asked first.
[12:04] <mnr12> slow graphics performance issue , anyone can help?
[12:05] <kevininspain> Fuchs, OK thanks
[12:05] <kevininspain> all a bit different after 4 years of not being here lol
[12:07] <zzarr> I solved it (I tried to remove systemd)
[12:08] <gadaska> anybody please answer me what would happen after nine months of security and maintenance support for Ubuntu 15.04?
[12:10] <gadaska> anybody please answer me what would happen after nine months of security and maintenance support for Ubuntu 15.04?
[12:11] <gadaska> anybody please answer me what would happen after nine months of security and maintenance support for Ubuntu 15.04? Do I have to install another version of Ubuntu? And will I be able to manually update my OS anymore?
[12:12] <ablest1980> you can manually update or auto
[12:12] <bkubuddy> anybody please answer me what would happen after nine months of security and maintenance support for Ubuntu 15.04? Do I have to install another version of Ubuntu? And will I be able to manually update my OS anymore?
[12:12] <ablest1980> im 14.04lts
[12:13] <TJ-> !eol | bkubuddy
[12:17] <zzarr> how do I fix hash sum mismatch (from official repos)
[12:20] <dscastro> hello guys, is here the best place to ask about cloud-init ?
[12:21] <OerHeks> zzarr, 1. change mirrors, or 2. sudo rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update  # to cleanup broken lists
[12:22] <OerHeks> dscastro, If  you find no answer here, maybe #ubuntu-server is a good place to ask too.
[12:22] <dscastro> tks
[12:22] <zzarr> OerHeks: thanks I removed everything under /var/lib/apt/lists/
[12:23] <zzarr> OerHeks: I read that the problem can occur if the repositories are being updated
[12:23] <OerHeks> zzarr, yes, maybe your mirror is out of sync.
[12:23] <zzarr> now everything went fine :D
[12:24] <OerHeks> oke
[12:24] <amag> hi
[12:24] <zzarr> hi
[12:24] <amag> i would like to speak with somebody that could help with kickstart
[12:25] <amag> trying to make a raid partitioning but impossible to get a result
[12:25] <amag> some body figured it out ?
[12:25] <zzarr> I still have problems with Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:25] <zzarr>  python3.4-minimal
[12:25] <zzarr>  python3-minimal :(
[12:25] <amag> part raid.01 --asprimary --size=1024 --ondisk=/dev/sdp
[12:25] <amag> part raid.02 --asprimary --size=1024 --ondisk=/dev/sdq
[12:25] <amag> raid --level=1 --device=/dev/md0 raid.01 raid.02
[12:25] <amag> part /boot --fstype=ext2 --size 1024 --asprimary --ondisk=/dev/md0
[12:25] <amag> part raid.03 --asprimary --size=48000 --grow --ondisk=/dev/sdp
[12:25] <amag> part raid.04 --asprimary --size=48000 --grow --ondisk=/dev/sdq
[12:25] <missilecarrot> Hey all, speaking from my raspberry Pi 2. Love this thing! :)
[12:26] <zzarr> missilecarrot: running Ubuntu? :D
[12:26] <missilecarrot> yeah
[12:26] <zzarr> nice
[12:26] <OerHeks> !paste | amag
[12:26] <missilecarrot> not to shabby
[12:27] <amag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078932/
[12:27] <amag> sorry
[12:27] <zzarr> I'm running Ubuntu everywhere and I love it :D
[12:27] <missilecarrot> need some ideas of what to do with the pi. Any ideas?
[12:28] <badbodh> watch *muffled voice*
[12:29] <zzarr> yea, my stationary, my laptop (dualboot Ubuntu and OS X), have 2 servers running Ubuntu, my computer at work and last my phone runs Ubuntu-Touch
[12:30] <zzarr> I have a Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition (the gold one)
[12:34] <meles> i'm trying to set up postfix and dovecot but  /var/spool/postfix/private/auth is missing. can somebody tell me how to create it?
[12:37] <LibertyWeNeed> how do I find out all the channels on freenode?
[12:38] <ioria> meles ... i use both ... but i don't have that file (...mumbling...)
[12:39] <Fuchs> LibertyWeNeed: technically /list, but don't do it
[12:39] <Fuchs> LibertyWeNeed: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[12:39] <meles> ioria well the error message when telneting to the server is:  postfix/smtpd[18118]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: No such file or directory
[12:40] <meles> ioria: Here is the output of dovecot -n http://pastebin.com/wMXxx1e8
[12:40] <amag> nobody knows about kickstart and raid ?
[12:41] <ioria> meles ... teeneting to what ?   25 or 110  ?
[12:42] <meles> ioria 25
[12:42] <ioria> meles ... ah... you changed dovecot.conf... it's not default
[12:42] <meles> no, but would the default work?
[12:43] <ioria> meles ... this is the original http://paste.ubuntu.com/12079035/
[12:44] <ioria> meles  it uses the files in conf.d
[12:45] <meles> ioria, thanks i know, mine looks the same but i changed the settings in conf.d/*
[12:46] <zxcvz> hi
[12:47] <meles> ioria if you have dovecot, postfix and maybe postfixadmin set up, could you paste me the output of dovecot -n
[12:47] <bkubuddy> is terminal sometimes replaced by mouse-action? update, for example?
[12:49] <bkubuddy> where can i learn terminal commands for ubuntu??
[12:49] <ioria> meles  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12079059/
[12:49] <ioria> meles  in any case , you got error also with smtp   ...
[12:50] <zxcvz> my server hp proliant is dead, the server hp have 5 disks, 1 physical Windows Server 2008 R2 and 3 vm hyper-v, i would want load these disks in a system Ubuntu Server on other server hp poweredge r510, is possible?
[12:51] <bkubuddy> where can i learn terminal commands for ubuntu??
[12:51] <ioria> meles  are you on debian ?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> !terminal
[12:51] <BluesKaj> bkubuddy:  ^
[12:51] <marus> hello, when i log in into my server it show me that packages can be updated.
[12:52] <marus> after apt-get update && upgrade
[12:52] <marus> it still show that
[12:52] <zxcvz> ofcourse without data losing
[12:52] <Jesusss>   How install Graphical Interface to Ubuntu server?
[12:52] <ishamo> Could somebody tell me where is the default dir of 'syslog.conf' in ubuntu?
[12:53] <santosxen> Hey, what to do if i cant configure fancontrol? ; Seems like it doesnt want to save my config
[12:53] <jperkins> to use a graphical interface on ubuntu server install tasksel and run it
[12:53] <Jesusss> tasksel?
[12:54] <ishamo> Oh. I found it . it is rsyslog.conf
[12:54] <zxcvz> santosxen maybe this is problem of permission
[12:54] <jperkins> sudo apt-get install tasksel
[12:54] <meles> ioria yes debian, but wait a little, i think i solved the issue
[12:54] <ioria> meles  good
[12:54] <Jesusss> i can install graphical interface from sudo apt-get install?
[12:54] <marus> Jesusss:yes
[12:54] <meles> ioria this post helped me https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=9357#p53688
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Jesusss:  install ubuntu-desktop
[12:55] <santosxen> zxcvz, how to check that?
[12:56] <ioria> meles  so now you are using /conf.d ?
[12:56] <marus> i miss dist-upgrade
[12:57] <zxcvz> santosxen ls -l name_file
[12:57] <santosxen> zxcvz. was für für name file stehen?
[12:58] <santosxen> zxcvz. soll ich das direkt im terminal eintragen?
[12:59] <zxcvz> santosxen ls -l name_file
[12:59] <Canon> hello all. here my question i am looking to clean up my harddrives of duplicate files " pic, Docs ect."
[12:59] <epigat> hello, i have a problem with installation of ubuntu studio. First one - i have a netbook (kali linux) and pc (none now). First i try installed a ArtistX, but i had some problems. Then i think i install ubuntu studio. But i had some problems with installation - "[...] menu.c32". Then i try install this files from kali, but it doesnt work. How i can format my pendrive and install ubuntu studio.
[12:59] <zxcvz> santosxen ls -l name_file you must see all to left only ugo
[13:00] <Canon> I would like to use fine but cat locate the switches
[13:01] <santosxen> zxcvz, idk what you mean im linux newbie
[13:01] <Pici> Canon: man find  has all the documentation.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> epigat:  format the USb stick to fat32 with gparted then use dd to copy the ubuntu-studio iso file to the usb, the usb will be bootable
[13:02] <Fuchs> Canon: I'd go with fslint (graphical) or fdupes, really
[13:02] <Fuchs> given that find is a bit limited
[13:03] <LibertyWeNeed> How do you get invited to a channel?
[13:04] <Fuchs> LibertyWeNeed: usually by an operator inviting you,
[13:05] <Fuchs> LibertyWeNeed: mind that most channels on freenode that are +i (invite only) are only so that the forward (+f) works. To these: you don't get invited at all.
[13:05] <Fuchs> LibertyWeNeed: also these kind of questions are probably better suited in #freenode
[13:05] <epigat> someone can help me?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> epigat:  did you read my post above?
[13:08] <epigat> oh oke
[13:08] <epigat> but i cant format it
[13:08] <epigat> i dont know a command
[13:10] <frostie> is there a ppa for chromium browser in ubuntu or does it update through the official repos?
[13:12] <TJ-> frostie: it's part of the main archive package is "chromium-browser"\
[13:12] <OerHeks> epigat, likely it is a kali-thing.
[13:12] <epigat> yes i readed, but im not verry gut in english and i dont understand this fist one. now im in gparted and how i can format i cant format
[13:13] <frostie> does it autoupdate when installed like firefox does or do i have to add ppa for it?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> !pl | epigat
[13:14] <frostie> to get new versions of chromium
[13:14] <TJ-> frostie: It's in universe; I'm not aware of how often updates are provided. Current version in 14.04 is 43.0.2357.130-0ubuntu0.14.04.1.1092
[13:14] <OerHeks> frostie, wait for the packagers to do the new chromium.
[13:15] <zzarr> apt-get install nano
[13:15] <zzarr> ohhh... sorry :O wrong window
[13:20] <pitastrudl> rip
[13:23] <kn0ck> davennh: hi
[13:28] <adrian_1908> YouTube no longer allows one to opt out of the HTML5 player, any idea what to do as a Firefox user who doesn't want to be limited to 360p/720p?
[13:29] <kn0ck> HTML5 player is limited to 720p?
[13:29] <kn0ck> i never knew that
[13:31] <adrian_1908> Firefox without MSE is limited. And If I activate it, I get unpredictable behaviour (videos stuck buffering forever).
[13:32] <adrian_1908> I just wish I could still opt-out for a while longer, until everything is ironed out for Mozilla.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> adrian_1908: for resolutions above 720p tou'd better have a big internet pipe
[13:34] <tpe> Even YT's 4k video isn't all that intensive. If anything, all of their bitrates are way too low... but I understand why that's the case.
[13:35] <adrian_1908> BluesKaj: I do and so far I had no problem using the Flash Player, but now HTML5  seems to be enforced. I like to watch documentaries and videogame playthroughs and such, where the extra detail makes a difference. Of course I would love to ditch anything Flash myself, but in my case that seems to come with a few tradeoffs at the moment.
[13:36] <adrian_1908> Anyway, I'll do some more digging, maybe I can get it to work better somehow.
[13:40] <kevininspain> I asked this a while ago but have had 8 phone calls so i will ask again lol
[13:40] <Ice_Strike> How do I stop ubuntu to stop fading after x seconds?
[13:40] <kevininspain> to reply to someone who is in the chat do i have to put # before typing their user name or Nick ?
[13:40] <facepalm> Morning all, quick question. How to I enable a password prompt after coming back from suspend? Ubuntu Mate 15.04.
[13:40] <Ice_Strike> It is so annying when I am accessing from VNC
[13:41] <hateball> !tab | kevininspain
[13:41] <Ice_Strike> Slow!
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !tab |  kevininspain
[13:41] <kevininspain> so just start typing their name and then push tab to get a list correct ?
[13:42] <hateball> kevininspain: yes
[13:43] <kevininspain> hateball, ok have tried it
[13:43] <kevininspain> hateball, yep got it, Thanks
[13:44] <BluesKaj> adrian_1908:  have you tried google-chrome? It's embedded proprietary flash version seems better on my large monitor than FF
[13:46] <adrian_1908> BluesKaj: That would fix it, but personally I don't like Chrome for day-to-day use.
[13:46] <kn0ck> can you tell me how to get, how to get to sesame street?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> kn0ck, this is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu question or please play somewhere else.  thank you.
[13:51] <qqz> is there any channel where I can ask questions about cd/dvd/bd burning?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !dvd | qqz, ask here
[13:53] <mnr12> ubuntu slow graphics performance .... cant even play youtube video smoothly... anyone can helpme?
[13:55] <bowl323> Hello
[13:55] <hateball> mnr12: What chipset are you using?
[13:55] <hateball> mnr12: And what driver
[13:56] <mnr12> hateball: it is intel chipset, and intel driver , 32 bit dual core with 2gb ram
[13:56] <hateball> mnr12: on 15.04 ?
[13:56] <kn0ck> cfhowlett: suck a niggers dick
[13:56] <kn0ck> you fucking nigger lover
[13:57] <mnr12> hateball: nope its 14.04
[13:57] <bowl323> What version of Ubuntu is everyone running?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !ops |  kn0ck ban requested
[13:58] <bowl323> I run Lubuntu 15.04
[13:58] <hateball> mnr12: You could try adding this PPA to get updated mesa, see if that helps https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:58] <cfhowlett> bowl323 what is your ubuntu question please
[13:59] <mnr12> hateball: okay let me try
[14:00] <hateball> mnr12: Be sure to read the information on that page before adding it
[14:02] <kevininspain> I use a windows phone and when I put in something in my calender I can see it on Windows 10 calender which is synced. Is this possible on Ubuntu ?
[14:03] <shovel_b1ss> hello
[14:03] <shovel_b1ss> how do i mount my usb using command line
[14:03] <shovel_b1ss> i tried a few things it didnt work
[14:06] <Jumpman> I installed xubuntu on my laptop via flash drive, I used UNetbootin to create the bootable drive. After install I restart, and it says "No bootable device". How can I fix this?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> Jumpman  maybe the .iso was corrupt ... where did you get it?
[14:14] <bkubuddy> guys, i am havin trouble with installing ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS  on my Windows 10. i reboot and press F12 and choose USB-CDROM from the boot menu. then nothing happended. Windows 10 appeared. No sight of Linux installation windows.
[14:14] <excaliburn> how'd you image usb?
[14:15] <gadisz> guys, i am havin trouble with installing ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS  on my Windows 10. i reboot and press F12 and choose USB-CDROM from the boot menu. then nothing happended. Windows 10 appeared. No sight of Linux installation windows.
[14:15] <excaliburn> ok...
[14:15] <excaliburn> !ops some kinda spam
[14:16] <excaliburn> no chance of that, my man
[14:22] <zykotick9> !gender | excaliburn
[14:22] <cfhowlett> o - m - g
[14:22] <vogjon> guys, i am havin trouble with installing ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS  on my Windows 10. i reboot and press F12 and choose USB-CDROM from the boot menu. then nothing happended. Windows 10 appeared. No sight of Linux installation windows.
[14:22] <vogjon> repeat: i am using Windows 10
[14:23] <excaliburn> nice, fembot. But that's a sex not a gender
[14:23] <excaliburn> truly weird spam, that
[14:23] <ioria> vogjon efi motherboard ?
[14:23] <BotchlaB> vogjon: Are you using a Live USB? How did you 'burn' the ISO onto the USB flash drive?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !details | vogjon,
[14:25] <vogjon> guys, i am havin trouble with installing ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS  on my Windows 10. i reboot and press F12 and choose USB-CDROM from the boot menu. then nothing happended. Windows 10 appeared. No sight of Linux installation windows. Please help!!!
[14:25] <BotchlaB> ???
[14:26] <BotchlaB> vogjon: Did you see our questions?
[14:26] <BotchlaB> vogjon: We're asking you to provide more detail.
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> BotchlaB  it's a bot, ignore it
[14:27] <BotchlaB> Heh.
[14:27]  * cfhowlett thinks yep.  adding to my already susbstantial  /ignore list.
[14:27] <BotchlaB> Hah.
[14:27] <ioria> MonkeyDust, really ?
[14:27] <BotchlaB> ioria: Well, the behavior certainly is bot-like... :)
[14:27] <ioria> yep
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> ioria  some bots also generate random comments, based on what's being said in the channel
[14:30] <ioria> MonkeyDust, ok, tx
[14:32] <changnesia> Guys could you give advice? I'm trying to install Ubuntu, my pc acknowledges the usb drive, but it never goes past by the Lenovo screen. I followed all the advice I could find. What could be causing this?
[14:33] <reisio> changnesia: for serious? :p
[14:33] <changnesia> Yes...?
[14:34] <reisio> changnesia: came with Windows installed?
[14:34] <changnesia> Yep.
[14:34] <changnesia> I want it to dual boot.
[14:34] <ioria> secure boot ?
[14:35] <changnesia> disabled
[14:36] <changnesia> It's booting into UEFI, I disabled fastbood in windows, every piece of advice I could find.
[14:36] <reisio> what does 'acknowledges' mean
[14:36] <ioria>  this http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported ?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> "sees it" would be my guess
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> or recognizes it
[14:36] <changnesia> Well the Lenovo screen either flashes over and over or it stays there. If I turn the pc on without the usb drive, it boots into Windows as usual.
[14:37] <changnesia> Ioria: I followed that manual to a point.
[14:38] <changnesia> So the firmware knows it should boot from the usb drive, but doesn't from some reason.
[14:42] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: Which usb port are you using?
[14:42] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: laptop or desktop?
[14:42] <changnesia> I tried all of them. My laptop has three 3.0 ports. The usb stick is Kingston 2.0
[14:42] <reisio> cfhowlett: equally ambiguous :p
[14:43] <reisio> changnesia: no usb 2.0?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> changnesia, make another usb and try again.  PITA I know but they do act up
[14:43] <changnesia> No.
[14:43] <reisio> anybody had any luck booting the install image from USB 3?
[14:44] <Guest97993> So.. My friend is having some trouble with his ubuntu install and I'd want to help him by reaching his terminal, how can I do it over the internet without SSH
[14:44] <changnesia> cfhowlett: What do you mean? I've tried several programs to create it to no avail.
[14:44] <Armadillos> NicholasCage: You don't really...
[14:44] <cfhowlett> changnesia, do not use the same USB.   try a different USB>
[14:44] <reisio> Guest97704: walk him through teamviewer execution over the phone
[14:45] <changnesia> I also tried another usb drive but the computer ignored that one completely, as if it wasn't there.
[14:45] <jost> I've got a bunch of open ai files... I know I can open those with inkscape. But I'd rather extract every embedded image and resource from them into a folder. Is there a program that can do that? For Photoshop-files this is possible with imagemagick
[14:45] <NicholasCage> Armadillos: do elaborate?
[14:45] <reisio> changnesia: I haven't had a lot of luck with live OSes over USB 3, it'd be nice if someone could confirm that's not an issue
[14:46] <changnesia> So basically I'm screwed?
[14:46] <reisio> jost: you try with imagemagick?
[14:46] <reisio> changnesia: nah, you're just not done yet :)
[14:46] <reisio> I mean you can always install from within Windows itself, if you gotta
[14:47] <reisio> or maybe you have a cd/dvd drive...
[14:47] <CoolApps> Hello. Is it okay to use SWAP on a eMMC storage device?
[14:47] <reisio> it's slow and silly, but they're more reliable in many ways
[14:47] <changnesia> Is this using wubi? Isn't that also frowned upon?
[14:47] <piegeekfan> Is it stupid to have Ubuntu installed if I just use it for the same damn stuff I use windows 8 for?
[14:47] <cfhowlett> reisio, WHOA there hoss!  you cannot be speaking of wubi because wubi is dead, dead DEAD!
[14:47] <reisio> CoolApps: it's fine, it's just more reads & writes
[14:47] <cfhowlett> Do NOT speak the name of curse!
[14:47] <reisio> cfhowlett: I could be, but am not
[14:47] <reisio> now that you brought up wubi someone's bound to ask about it, though, gj :p
[14:47] <reisio> changnesia: no there are things other than wubi
[14:47] <reisio> that predate wubi, even
[14:48] <reisio> piegeekfan: nope
[14:48] <reisio> piegeekfan: it's stupid to have _Windows_ installed in that scenario
[14:48] <ioria> changnesia, have you tried with a dvd ?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> piegeekfan  it's not stupid if you want to learn something new
[14:48] <changnesia> Reisio: I have tried the DVD, but I can't figure out how to boot from it. No option in BIOS for it. Or the boot manager.
[14:48] <reisio> changnesia: nice...
[14:48] <jost> reisio: yes, tried that - it exports a single image
[14:48] <cfhowlett> piegeekfan, stupid?   no.  consider this: ubuntu as main OS, virtualbox + windows for windows specific stuff, i.e. MS Word
[14:48] <reisio> changnesia: is there an option in the boot manager to _disable_ booting from hard disks entirely?
[14:48] <jost> and also, imagemagick will most probably export raster graphics
[14:48] <CoolApps> reisio: Ah okay. From what I've read, too much read/writing on a eMMC storage device can reduce life.
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  that's what i have, winxp, for ms office only
[14:49] <reisio> CoolApps: writing & reading (aka "usage") reduces the life of any storage device, yes
[14:49] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, in a vbox?
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  yes
[14:49] <reisio> CoolApps: it will still likely last longer than you'll have a use for it
[14:49] <Armadillos> NicholasCage: Are you just trying to access the terminal, or do you want to see the entire desktop?
[14:49] <reisio> CoolApps: at this point, the time you've spent wondering and asking about this is probably worth more than the cost of the device, so... :p
[14:49] <changnesia> I'd have to check. In the boot manager there is only windows boot manager and then ipv4 and ipv6, but that's nothing that I'd want, is it?
[14:50] <reisio> jost: there's always Adobe Illustrator
[14:50] <jost> reisio: yeah, right... I'll install adobe software
[14:50] <reisio> changnesia: nah
[14:50] <reisio> changnesia: you want boot order, and then look for disabling hdd booting outright
[14:50] <reisio> some boot firmware is really crap about this
[14:50] <reisio> and changing the order isn't enough
[14:51] <changnesia> There is no boot order actually
[14:51] <changnesia> I can only allow usb booting
[14:51] <reisio> changnesia: okay how about a dedicated boot menu? (esc? f12?)
[14:51] <CoolApps> reisio: So around £85?
[14:51] <reisio> CoolApps: if it cost that much, it will last a good long time
[14:51] <reisio> probably even has a warranty
[14:52] <CoolApps> reisio: It's a mini PC and it uses such storage, so... XD
[14:52] <reisio> CoolApps: you can always swap in a cheap POS USB stick you have lying around if you're paranoid
[14:52] <reisio> CoolApps: but I don't think I'd personally bother
[14:52] <changnesia> reisio: that's where the windows boot manager, ipv4 and ipv6 are
[14:52] <reisio> solid state has a limited lifespan, but so does everything
[14:52] <reisio> changnesia: and there's an item for the usb stick?
[14:53] <Johnny_Linux> planned obsolescence
[14:53] <reisio> beats unplanned (which is going to happen anyway)
[14:53] <changnesia> No. I haven't successfully got into that menu with the usb stick in
[14:53] <reisio> changnesia: put the usb stick in, reboot and immediately start tapping the boot menu key over and over
[14:54] <reisio> there is frequently an incredibly small window within which you must strike it
[14:54] <changnesia> reisio: I've tried that repeatedly. But I'll do so again if it helps
[14:54] <reisio> you said it was a laptop?
[14:54] <changnesia> Yes
[14:54] <ioria> changnesia, Go to the PowerOff options, and while holding the SHIFT key, click on Restart. When the menu below appears, select Troubleshoot, then UEFI Firmware Settings.  It will reboot  and you can access bios
[14:54] <reisio> and the hard drive isn't in one of those easily removed bays? :p
[14:55] <Johnny_Linux> f9 - f12 or close
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Johnny_Linux  who are you addressing?
[14:55] <CoolApps> That's true. I got the mini PC for experimentation (it's supposed to dual boot between Android and Windows). Of course, I ended up deleting the partitions that are Android related, flashed the 64 bit BIOS, wiped out the original bootloader, and a few hours ago, removed the Windows partitions. It's gonna be more of a Linux PC. :P
[14:55] <changnesia> ioria: I can get into UEFI, but there is a different key for the boot menu
[14:56] <changnesia> reisio: No, I'd have to take the laptop apart
[14:56] <reisio> changnesia: yeah not worth it, ,heh
[14:56] <reisio> changnesia: what make/model?
[14:56] <changnesia> reisio: Lenovo G500
[14:57] <CoolApps> this thing takes such a long time to install a Ubuntu-based distro when it comes to the "creating ext4 file system for ..." stage.
[14:57] <rodd> how can i use bash instead of dash?
[14:57] <changnesia> Are specifics important? I have intel Ivy bridge processor inside
[14:57] <reisio> changnesia: you might try the minimalcd image
[14:57] <reisio> rodd: for what, exactly?
[14:58] <reisio> CoolApps: mmmm, I'm guessing that the description 'creating blah...' is a misrepresentation and that it's actually doing more than that
[14:58] <CoolApps> I managed to avoid the wait on the partition screen in the installer by removing, adding, and then ticking the format box for that partition rather than having that partition there and ticking the format box.
[14:59] <changnesia> reisio: I'll try that then.
[15:00] <ioria> changnesia, or disable FastBoot
[15:00] <changnesia> ioria: disabled
[15:00] <ioria> wow
[15:01] <CoolApps> reisio: That's likely, though it shouldn't be taking as long as it's taking. I mean it was a lot faster two times before.
[15:01] <changnesia> reisio: why do you think this will help?
[15:01] <changnesia> the minimal cs
[15:01] <changnesia> cd
[15:01] <reisio> changnesia: the normal image has a lot of graphical things, and just a lot more things in general, that can potentially fail
[15:01] <reisio> the minimalcd image just has less to go wrong
[15:02] <CoolApps> I should probably play around with where the USB devices are connected. Perhaps I'm putting too much on the storage. After all, I've attempted this many times before.
[15:02] <rodd> reisio: cant seem to use autocomplete and a few other features with dash
[15:03] <reisio> CoolApps: got me, usb? mmc? sounds kinda awful :)
[15:03] <reisio> rodd: in what way are you trying to use bash?
[15:03] <changnesia> reisio: It says it's not handy for UEFI booting. I'd be very unhappy if I couldn't boot anything at all, haha.
[15:03] <reisio> changnesia: well you already can't boot anything at all
[15:03] <rodd> reisio: regardless, I want bash
[15:03] <CoolApps> "Read-only file system '/target/lib64'"
[15:04] <reisio> changnesia: if you run out of ideas, try http://www.sysresccd.org/ http://is.gd/nodeha with the no kms option
[15:04] <reisio> rodd: okay... and what's stopping you from using it?
[15:04] <CoolApps> ouché
[15:04] <rodd> reisio: not knowing how to set it as default, which is the reason I'm here
[15:04] <CoolApps> I hope I haven't murdered the internal storage.
[15:04] <reisio> rodd: it should already be the default for interactive shells
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> rodd  open a terminal and type bash [enter] ... that should do it ... dash is the menu on the left
[15:04] <reisio> which is why I asked how you want to use it...
[15:05] <rodd> it isnt the default
[15:05] <reisio> MonkeyDust: dash is also the default /bin/sh
[15:05] <reisio> rodd: what does 'help' say?
[15:05] <{qwerty}> Hey Guys, question: How to configurate my Laptop to switch to Standby-mode when i close its display? Im using Ubuntu-Studio. thanks
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> rodd  still, type 'bash'
[15:05] <reisio> {qwerty}: should be in the power options in system prefs
[15:05] <rodd> MonkeyDust: everytime I open the terminal?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> rodd  not sure, never encounterd what you experience ... what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[15:07] <mikul> If I wanna use the drivers from NVIDIA's website instead of the ones in ubuntu repos, do i have to remove any old drivers first or is it just to run the setup?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> {qwerty}  system settings > power
[15:07] <cfhowlett> mikul, run "additional drivers" utility
[15:07] <rodd> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[15:08] <mikul> cfhowlett, yeah but that shit doesn't work, and it doesn't have the latest drivers
[15:08] <{qwerty}> MonkeyDust: in Xfce i just can choose "Lock Display"
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> mikul  avoid the sh* word
[15:08] <zykotick9> rodd: if you need to reset/set your default shell, you can run "chsh" (NOT as sudo!)
[15:08] <mikul> i tried to change to the latest in additional drivers but nothing happend.. so strange.. so i wanna use the latest one on nvidias hompage
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> {qwerty}  ah, i'm unfamiliar with xfce
[15:09] <mikul> MonkeyDust, why? dont you ever take a shit?
[15:09] <rodd> zykotick9: my user doesnt seem to exist in /etc/passwd, I think it might all be related to the network setup
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !language | mikul yes this means you too
[15:09] <{qwerty}> MonkeyDust: Thanks anyway
[15:10] <mikul> so i cant be calm when i say the word shit?
[15:10] <reisio> calmness isn't relevant, it's part of the silly rules
[15:10] <reisio> mikul: nividia's driver installer will tell you everything you need to know
[15:11] <cfhowlett> miku you're trolling.  you know it. we know it.  follow the rules or be /ignored and/or kicked.
[15:11] <reisio> if it doesn't like something, it'll tell you
[15:11] <mikul> reisio, ty
[15:11] <changnesia> The  minimal doesn't work either
[15:11] <rodd> I'm a moron -> adduser help
[15:11] <reisio> changnesia: try the sysresccd thing
[15:12] <mikul> reisio, that is all i wanted to know.
[15:12] <reisio> so many words in English, 'troll' doesn't have to take every one's place
[15:12] <reisio> mikul: I figured, since you asked
[15:12] <mikul> cfhowlett, im not trolling.. what is your problem? I just asked one simple question.. answer it if you know the answer, else, just be quiet.
[15:12] <kittykitty> anyone remember if ubuntu 14.04 dims the screen when you take the power adapter out on your laptop?
[15:13] <cfhowlett> kittykitty, it will if you've set that in power-settings
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> kittykitty  yes, and i guess you can't disable that dimming on battery power
[15:13] <mikul> reisio, anyway, ty =) <3
[15:13] <kittykitty> cfhowlett, i think i disabled it in dconf ages ago but i got a new battery now and it should probably be on... I cant find it to turn it back on though. Tried lots of dconf stuff lol
[15:14] <kittykitty> MonkeyDust, i disabled it ages ago :P idk how to enable it now lol
[15:14] <cfhowlett> kittykitty, it's there somewhere, but I can't help as I'm on xubuntu, not unity.  different deal.
[15:14] <kittykitty> yea ok :P
[15:14] <reisio> changnesia: so in the bios/uefi menu, is there a 'boot' item set to UEFI?
[15:14] <kittykitty> i mean, i have it enabled and stuff so it should work
[15:15] <mich`> hi
[15:15] <kittykitty> cfhowlett, "dim screen to save power" or something right?
[15:15] <mich`> no sound after installing skype
[15:15] <reisio> hi mich
[15:15] <changnesia> Reisio: yes
[15:15] <mich`> please help
[15:15] <reisio> mich`: no sound in skype or anywhere?
[15:15] <reisio> changnesia: if you aren't dual booting, go ahead and set it to legacy
[15:15] <mich`> everywhere
[15:16] <mich`> reisio: no sound devices in the list
[15:16] <reisio> mich`: check your mixer that nothing's muted?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> kittykitty, truly, I'm not familiar enough with unity/ubuntu to advise you with any confidence.  let someone else help.  sorry.
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> mich`  open a terminal and type   alsamixer
[15:16] <kittykitty> mm ok, thanks anyway cfhowlett aha :3
[15:16] <mich`> MonkeyDust: what now?
[15:17] <reisio> changnesia: and actually, probably even if you are going to be dual booting
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> mich`  if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[15:17] <changnesia2> reisio: I want it to dual boot. I'll be able to repair it later then?
[15:18] <OerHeks> mich or hit F6 to see if you can switch soundcards
[15:18] <reisio> changnesia2: it should be fine no matter what the boot item is set to, really
[15:18] <reisio> changnesia2: but please don't quote me on that :D
[15:18] <reisio> like you should be able to leave it on legacy forever
[15:18] <reisio> it's not really legacy anyway
[15:18] <reisio> it's just BIOS or emulated BIOS
[15:18] <reisio> which U/EFI would _like_ to be legacy
[15:19] <reisio> but which is still very common
[15:19] <changnesia2> reisio: But how will it work? From what I've read, everywhere they said if you install in legacy and you have win in uefi, you won't be able to boot windows
[15:19] <changnesia2> Or will grub manage it somehow?
[15:19] <reisio> that's easily tested, switch it to legacy and see if windows boots
[15:20] <mich`> hmm
[15:20] <mich`> i changed sound card using f6 and then went to all MM and increased them
[15:20] <mich`> but it didn't help much
[15:21] <changnesia2> reisio: on it
[15:21] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: The system won't boot windows if you've set the bios to only legacy and have a uefi install of windows.
[15:22] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: reason is you can use UEFI to boot drives over the 2TB
[15:22] <reisio> FrankFromHR: he'll probably be back in a bit
[15:23] <FrankFromHR> reisio: ah missed him leave
[15:23] <zykotick9> FrankFromHR: ahhh, using 2TB+ drives is a GPT vs DOSMB issue - NOT UEFI related...  I've used 2TB+ without UEFI!
[15:23] <changnesia> I'm still here but on phone
[15:23] <reisio> changnesia: technophile
[15:23] <meles> i'm using dovecot+postfix+postfixadmin with mysql as userdb and passdb. but now i'm stuck with authentication problems via imap. When telneting I get "a1 NO [AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] Authentication failed." There is nothing happening in the logfiles (mail, dovecot, syslog, mysql. The output of dovecot -n is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12080017/
[15:23] <FrankFromHR> zykotick9: to boot that 2TB+ drive in GPT you have to se UEFI
[15:24] <zykotick9> FrankFromHR: hummmm, ya, I probably wasn't booting from it... so, perhaps you're right?
[15:24] <FrankFromHR> zykotick9: hah no perhaps :)
[15:24] <changnesia> Reisio: want your mouth to be washed with soap? :-P
[15:24] <FrankFromHR> zykotick9: I've had to do it before to get a 3TB drive booting :)
[15:25] <ioria> changnesia, minidisk failed ?
[15:26] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: How did you write the image to the USB key?
[15:26] <changnesia> Reisio: new option: I should leave uefi first, right?
[15:26] <reisio> having actually experienced that, but assuming you probably wouldn't have guessed it, I will refrain from commenting in earnest :p
[15:26] <reisio> changnesia: yeah
[15:26] <changnesia> Ioria: yes
[15:27] <changnesia> Frank: uui
[15:27] <philip__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078454/ want to incrase the ?root Directory
[15:27] <changnesia> So it boots fine into windows
[15:28] <changnesia> Shoulditry again with the USB drive?
[15:29] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: It's a liveCD right?
[15:29] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: on the USB key
[15:29] <philip__> How to extend the root partition in LVM
[15:30] <changnesia> Frank : yes
[15:30] <FrankFromHR> Can't changnesia kick off the liveCD from inside his windows install?
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> philip__  scroll down to lvextend   https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_p2
[15:32] <reisio> changnesia: changnesia2 I'd try booting the usb again, yes
[15:32] <changnesia2> frankfromhr: I only can boot a usb or windows recovery cd
[15:32] <changnesia2> reisio: can I do it with the full iso? It'd be a lot faster
[15:32] <philip__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12078454/
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> philip__  no need to paste that twice... follow the instructions on the link i suggested
[15:33] <ravi__kumar> can anyone help me in understanding any open source project. I mean how the modules are organized. How modules are depending on other modules. I have no idea how to start. I want to understand projects from developer's perspective.
[15:33] <reisio> changnesia2: yeah
[15:34] <reisio> ravi__kumar: #friendly-coders
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> ravi__kumar  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:34] <reisio> ravi__kumar: also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_manager
[15:35] <ravi__kumar> Thanks for the help folks. I really appreciate it.
[15:35] <Pici> ravi__kumar: it often depends on the programming language you're using, many require things to be setup in different specific ways.
[15:38] <changnesia> Reisio: I'm getting just the Lenovo screen again. It isn't flashing any more though
[15:39] <reisio> changnesia: when you load the boot menu and choose usb?
[15:40] <changnesia> Reisio: when it wants to boot the usb
[15:40] <changnesia> I'mnotchoosing anything
[15:41] <superherointj> What is going to be Ubuntu's future?
[15:41] <reisio> try choosing it explicitly from the boot menu
[15:41] <reisio> superherointj: stuff, things
[15:42] <pbx> superherointj, try #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support question
[15:42] <superherointj> As a Desktop, I don't see much excitement about Ubuntu. It seems it is fading away.
[15:42] <kairo> hello
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> superherointj  that's because the desktop itself is fading away
[15:42] <pbx> superherointj, that's kind of a trolly statement. this channel is for support
[15:43] <superherointj> Where should I discuss these things?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> superherointj  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:44] <changnesia> Reisio: I can't get in with the USB plugged in
[15:44] <kairo> I'm now from ubuntu and the problem of my update-grub take a long time it's because of my HDD sata 200G, is this problem about a cable sata ? ( i heard some sound when it plugged, and the hdd is new )
[15:44] <reisio> superherointj: #boringconjecture perhaps
[15:44] <changnesia> But I can choose the DVD now
[15:44] <reisio> changnesia: wow, tedious
[15:44] <reisio> changnesia: might try a dvd
[15:45] <changnesia> Will do
[15:45] <reisio> if it works, at least it'd work :p
[15:45] <changnesia> That'sall I want! :-)
[15:46]  * superherointj came here to see a painting of a bright and shiny Ubuntu future. :)
[15:46] <reisio> sure you did
[15:47] <reisio> I don't even like Ubuntu and I find your approach a boring waste of time, go away :p
[15:47] <changnesia> It's doing something!
[15:48] <jmadero> I all - I upgraded flash a couple days ago and it's miserably bad....sometimes the video just goes white (right now a video on hulu is running...all white), sometimes the video just disappears (sound continues)...any way to revert?
[15:49] <Technobliterator> any reason Ubuntu won't let me uninstall a program when I try doing that from the search bar/can't find it in Software Center?
[15:49] <Technobliterator> My attempt to install Steam seems to have failed
[15:51] <CarlFK> sudo adduser carl plugdev; added.. what do I do so my current session sees that so I don't have to turn it off and on again?
[15:51] <SolarNRG> Where are my apps usually stored?
[15:51] <kairo> another question: i have this from /var/log/syslog : Aug 14 16:43:27 kadiro-MS-7529 kernel: [  989.000085] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[15:52] <kairo> and other similar errors
[15:52] <Seveas> kairo: time to make a backup and buy a new disk. It's rotten
[15:53] <kairo> Seveas, thank you, but i have two pluged now and third removed, how i can now who is the faulty?
[15:54] <Technobliterator> I'm 100% sure I need a new graphics driver...ubuntu crashing constantly due to failing to load stuff
[15:55] <jojo_> bonjour
[15:55] <kairo> bonjour jojo_
[15:56] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, maybe you need new ram .. try a memtest86 run
[15:56] <FrankFromHR> Technobliterator: Or a new PSU
[15:56] <jojo_> j'ai un probleme de résolution avec une carte nvidia geforce 7500LE
[15:57] <Technobliterator> New ram? My PC has 16GB ram, so that seems unlikely
[15:57] <jojo_> je suis sous ubuntu 15.04
[15:57] <FrankFromHR> Technobliterator: how much ram you have has nothing to do with it going bad..
[15:57] <BotchlaB> jojo_: #ubuntu-fr
[15:57] <Technobliterator> right, ok
[15:57] <kairo> jojo_, je ne suis pas un expert, mais je pense tu dois installer un nouveau driver de votre carte graphique
[15:57] <Technobliterator> so, memtest86 in console?
[15:58] <FrankFromHR> Technobliterator: from usb/cd
[15:58] <FrankFromHR> Technobliterator: and leave it to run over night
[15:58] <jojo_> le probleme c'est que le driver ne se trouve plus dans les dépots
[15:58] <OerHeks> Just 3 runs of memtest86 will do
[15:59] <kairo> jojo_, essaye de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ici n'est pas autorisé de répondre dans autre language que anglais
[15:59] <jojo_> (driver nvidia-173)
[15:59] <jojo_> ok
[15:59] <Technobliterator> I can probably burn that onto a CD or something
[15:59] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, or use the grub2 option
[16:00] <changnesia> When I want to double boot but want ubuntu to have its own partition, should I choose something else during the installation?
[16:00] <changnesia> When I want to double boot but I want ubuntu to have its own partition, should I choose something else during the installation?
[16:00] <Technobliterator> grub2 option?
[16:02] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, yes, hold shift @ boot, and use the memtest86 from there, no need for a cd
[16:02] <gbit86__> So I have a situation that requires that I setup developers with Vagrant VMs and will have a network share with a credential that I do not want to be in stored in clear text. How would yall go about securing it?
[16:03] <gbit86__> Setting them up with AD creds would not be ideal with, I want this managed by other developers that will not concern themselves with managing it via AD. Perhaps another linux authentication type server, but not the same windows AD that is used company wide.
[16:04] <gbit86__> ideal either*
[16:05] <kairo> one last question, if i buy a new disk, can i transfer my ubuntu and others partitions to this new one?
[16:05] <reisio> yes
[16:05] <OerHeks> kairo, sure, but would you transfer corrupted partitions?
[16:06] <kairo> OerHeks, yes, i fear i loose my data
[16:07] <Technobliterator> ok, so if I go with cd option, I just download and extract iso, then reboot PC and just let memtest86 work? ?__?
[16:08] <kairo> OerHeks, i heard a dd command can do that, is true?
[16:08] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, yes, kairo yes
[16:08] <FrankFromHR> Technobliterator: by extract you mean burn right?
[16:08] <OerHeks> 2 answers in one line :-D
[16:09] <kairo> loll not bad ;)
[16:09] <tobyj> could someone offer some advice related to diskless booting ubuntu?
[16:09] <tobyj> I have everything set up
[16:09] <tobyj> the client is getting an IP
[16:09] <tobyj> but I get "file not found"
[16:09] <kairo> OerHeks, can you give me a small information to do that? please
[16:09] <tobyj> what could I have messed up?
[16:11] <gbit86__> perhaps what I want to do is encrypt files on a local server and store the decrypt key on a remote server
[16:11] <Technobliterator> FrankFromHR, I meant, extract the compressed folder and then burn, yeah
[16:11] <FrankFromHR> Technobliterator: k cool, just making sure :)
[16:12] <reisio> changnesia: alongside?
[16:12] <reisio> changnesia: I'm not sure there's any scenario, when booted from the live OS, that doesn't result in Ubuntu having its _own_ partition
[16:12] <FrankFromHR> tobyj: Did you setup DHCP with the right information for PXE booting?
[16:13] <tobyj> Frank, I realised my issue
[16:14] <tobyj> tftpd-hpa was a bit misconfigured, wrong working directory
[16:14] <tobyj> I'll try this fix
[16:14] <tobyj> if not, I'll check dhcp
[16:14] <tobyj> but it's getting an IP
[16:14] <tobyj> the PXE client itself is what's failing
[16:14] <changnesia> Reisio: I made unallocated space for its partition
[16:14] <OerHeks> kairo, see man dd or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging#dd, enough tutorials to find
[16:14] <ioria> tobyj, LTSP ?
[16:15] <tobyj> ioria: hmm?
[16:15] <tobyj> http://puu.sh/jBpnV/eaf5aed34c.png ,_
[16:15] <tobyj> that's the issue
[16:16] <ioria> tobyj, does the bios support booting pxe ?
[16:16] <Technobliterator> alright, I've burnt the CD
[16:16] <tobyj> yeah, I've booted over pxe before
[16:16] <Technobliterator> Now I restart and let it run, right?
[16:17] <tobyj> also no I'm not using ltsp
[16:17] <liceo> ciao
[16:17] <liceo> !list
[16:18] <tobyj> I'm just using isc and tftpd-hpa
[16:18] <kairo> thk's OerHeks but this need a space to do it
[16:18] <tobyj> as well as a nfs share to store the filesystem on
[16:18] <Technobliterator> uh, I guess I was supposed to do more than just reboot because it just took me back to Ubuntu's start page
[16:19] <ioria> tobyj,     sudo chmod -R 777 /tftpboot       https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[16:19] <tobyj> I tried, my permissions are okay
[16:20] <Technobliterator> OerHerks, FrankFromHR, either of you know what I'm meant to do?
[16:20] <tobyj> does it matter that the files are owned by root?
[16:20] <ioria> tobyj,     virtual machine on serv ?
[16:21] <OerHeks> kairo .. err, what makes you think you don't need a space to dd a partition to ?
[16:21] <tobyj> yeah, the server and client are both VMs
[16:21] <tobyj> but eventually I will use physical clients
[16:22] <ioria> tobyj,     don't know much of VM, sorry
[16:22] <kairo> OerHeks, to backup i need a space to do that but i have'nt
[16:23] <tobyj> ioria: no problem, but it should work just like a physical machine would
[16:23] <OerHeks> kairo, you have a bad disk, you want to move those partitions.. now you say you have no space, cannot help you there.
[16:23] <OerHeks> buy a disk and come back :-)
[16:24] <kairo> OerHeks, yes OerHeks i means when i buy a disk i need just copy the old one to the new one without a backup
[16:25] <ioria> tobyj,     maybe some advanced setting in Network when you installed VM
[16:25] <OerHeks> kairo, i stop here.
[16:26] <kairo> ok OerHeks thank you for your help
[16:26] <Linnak> Hello, Can someone tell my why applications installed by deb package doesn't show up in unity's software list?
[16:26] <tobyj> ioria: I think I might have fixed it. tftpd-hpa was misconfigured
[16:26] <tobyj> the networking side of things seemed okay, the client was getting an IP from the dhcp server
[16:26] <ioria> tobyj,     it works ?
[16:26] <tobyj> I get a timeout error now though
[16:26] <tobyj> I'm going for dinner, be right back
[16:27] <TonyAldo> Linnak, which software?
[16:28] <Linnak> skype, sigil, jutoh ...
[16:33] <TonyAldo> Linnak, hm I just installed skype for my self and it came up
[16:33] <TonyAldo> I had to search for it
[16:34] <TonyAldo> Linnak, should be listed under installed applications
[16:38] <Linnak> now unity doesn't show a single app. totally empty
[16:38] <meles> The MX entry for an SMTP server is set to our network, now i installed another emailserver outside, i would like our wifi-router TL-ER604W to forward all incomming requests to the  external server. How would that servie be called (btw. I know that it is no good idea, it's just very temporarily.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> meles  how is your question ubuntu related?
[16:39] <daftykins> Linnak: have you been tweaking settings or removing lenses?
[16:39] <Linnak> just don't search online and in my folders
[16:41] <meles> MonkeyDust good question. initially i had another plan thats why i'm here.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  just installed skype too, it shows up, ok
[16:43] <tobyj> right
[16:43] <tobyj> now I'm getting tftp open timeout
[16:44] <tobyj> but the tftp server is running
[16:44] <Technobliterator> Okay, memtest86 running
[16:44] <tobyj> dhcp and tftp are on the same IP
[16:44] <Linnak> then it must me something else wrong. I show you all location checked and showing up nothing http://i.imgur.com/iXLvNLL.png
[16:44] <bmsr256> hello, i have a pc with ubuntu installed, i logged in to the pc and when i go to files the folders inside the home folder show a lock, why this happen?
[16:44] <Technobliterator> This could take a whilw
[16:44] <tobyj> bmsr256 is your home folder encrypted?
[16:45] <bmsr256> tobyj: no i didn't encrypt my home folder
[16:47] <bmsr256> i did a normal installation of ubuntu, i didn't select anything more else
[16:47] <Linnak> i've never could get ubuntu work in virtualbox. that's why I used debian but yesterday I saw in a shop a laptop with ubuntu on it and I liked how it looked. but I still can't get it work
[16:47] <reisio> Linnak: in vbox, you mean?
[16:48] <daftykins> Linnak: perhaps you should not mess around with settings and see how it works out of the box to start with.
[16:48] <meles> MonkeyDust can you suggest an alternative channel?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> meles  try ##networking
[16:48] <TonyAldo> question .. just installed 14.04.3 now im noticing my HD is a bit warm and im not doing much ..doing a iotop right now and it seems every second "ext4lazyinit" writes and then "jbd2/dm-1-8" writes to the disk after that ..is this considered normal?
[16:48] <daftykins> !alis | meles Don't use #ubuntu as a freenode virtual directory in future please.
[16:48] <liquideee> hi guys, i need your help. I have installed ubuntu 15.04 on new lenovo yoga 3 pro laptop. I've been using the laptop for a few days. Today, i was forced to set up a static ip for my Wifi connection. I have modified the connection and restarted wifi (through gnome 3 top right panel). It could not start, so i launched nmcli and started the connection
[16:48] <liquideee>  from there. Since that time - kernel panic anytime i log in to my account. Cant even log into a shell from gdm because the kernel panics soon.
[16:49] <tobyj> my tftp server is not responding, even over localhost on the server side
[16:49] <tobyj> any idea why?
[16:49] <meles> MonkeyDust: thx
[16:49] <daftykins> liquideee: which kernel are you on?
[16:49] <daftykins> tobyj: probably not running. use netstat to confirm
[16:49] <liquideee> daftykins: ill try to check. It is a fresh install + updates installed so it may be the newest for 15.04
[16:50] <tobyj> daftykins: I'll check once the server finishes rebooting
[16:50] <Linnak> i can' use it out of the box because it doesn't have vbox guest additions by default like Mint has so I can't see too much in 640x480 resolution
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  ubuntu was slow in vbox, here too, but alot faster in vmware player   https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/7_0
[16:50] <liquideee> 3.19.0-25-generic
[16:50] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[16:50] <daftykins> hrmm guess that's not indicative
[16:50] <daftykins> liquideee: tried using an older one?
[16:50] <Linnak> MonkeyDust After installing guest additions and you check 3d acceleration it works fine
[16:50] <reisio> Linnak: you'd only have to endure a lack of guest additions during installation...
[16:50] <liquideee> dmesg is complaining about thinkpad_acpi misbehavin
[16:51] <daftykins> Linnak: right but installing those isn't that big a deal, as long as you're doing it properly.
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  unfortunately, i have no 3d on my old frankenstein-laptop
[16:51] <liquideee> not yet, as im kinda locked out because of the panicks. I guess I'll have to use a live cd or smth
[16:51] <bmsr256> tobyj: do you have an idea?
[16:51] <daftykins> liquideee: no there should be the one it installed with too, hold left shift at boot and check the advanced menu in GRUB
[16:52] <liquideee> it lists all installed kernels?
[16:52] <Linnak> daftykins I do it the way how it is in the manual written
[16:52] <daftykins> Linnak: 'the manual' being what
[16:52] <tobyj> bmsr256: no, sorry
[16:52] <tobyj> daftykins: netstat | grep tftp returns nothing
[16:53] <bmsr256> tobyj: ok no problem
[16:53] <peter__> hello
[16:53] <Linnak> daftykins https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp46785384343968
[16:53] <Linnak> I did it about 140 ties before
[16:54] <daftykins> Linnak: ok, try using the packages already in the ubuntu PPAs
[16:54] <daftykins> because i don't think that's necessary.
[16:54] <Linnak> i will after i reinstalled AGAIN
[16:54] <Linnak> :)
[16:54] <changnesia> Guys when I try to install Ubuntu, it says I don't have the "reserved for BIOS boot" partition. What can I do about that? Can I create it in gparted?
[16:56] <daftykins> Linnak: which version are you using? (name the ISO you're installing from)
[16:57] <daftykins> changnesia: is Ubuntu to be the only OS on your machine?
[16:57] <Linnak> daftykins http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[16:57] <bmsr256> i try fsck, maybe it can help
[16:57] <Z3> Hi !  Will gnome classic desktop (gnome-panel package) run on mir on Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[16:57] <changnesia> daftykins: No, that's the problem. I want it to dual boot
[16:58] <daftykins> Z3: too early to speak of an OS that will be released in April 2016.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  are you trying to install that as vm? try 32bit instead og 64bit
[16:58] <daftykins> changnesia: ok what kind of computer and what do you have on there, Windows 8.1?
[16:58] <changnesia> daftykins: Laptop. And windows 10
[16:58] <Z3> daftykins ok. And on Ubuntu 15.10 ?
[16:58] <Linnak> 32bit is still better nowdays?
[16:58] <changnesia> I can't boot up using a usb
[16:58] <daftykins> Z3: also hasn't been released since that's October 2015...
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Z3  ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:59] <Z3> daftykins monkeydust ok, thank you ! :)
[16:59] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: i don't see any point in VMing 32-bit
[16:59] <changnesia> daftykins: I was adviced to turn UEFI off, now I can boot up using a dvd
[16:59] <changnesia> but then there's this problm
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  32 works for every hardware, even virtual, i use it on mine too, for that reason (can't install 64bit)
[17:00] <daftykins> changnesia: you need to keep EFI on if your Windows was installed EFI. disable secure boot to boot the flash drive perhaps, but you'll need to be in EFI mode :)
[17:00] <daftykins> back shortly.
[17:00] <changnesia> daftykins: I can't
[17:01] <tutolato> hi, what happens if i shutdown ubuntu with a mounten luks container?
[17:01] <changnesia> daftykins: it just doesn't work, I've been battling it for two days now. Secure boot is off, fastboot too. But I can't boot the live usb.
[17:01] <tutolato> mounted*
[17:02] <Linnak> i use always 64bit with debian mint ..... the proplem is not with bits and virtualbox
[17:02] <liquideee> changnesia: efi requires fat32, make sure the usb is formatted this way
[17:02] <tobyj> daftykins: the service is running, but tftpd-hpa doesn't show in netstat
[17:02] <tutolato> the normal way to close it from the wiki would need to cryptsetup luksClose, does this also happen by shutting down the system?
[17:02] <changnesia> liquidee: It is
[17:03] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: have you checked the MD5 of the ISO? Maybe the download got hosed?
[17:03] <Linnak> ok thanks bye
[17:04] <liquideee> daftykins: looks I've found the offender. proprietary module bcmwl for wifi. It worked until today, but now I have booted into the old kernel and installed it there to get wifi working and the same problem occured -kernel panic. Any ideas how to proceed?
[17:06] <ElcnU> u
[17:07] <tutolatoo> what happens if i shutdown ubuntu with an lukscontainer mounted?
[17:10] <AndChat196224> Hi geeks!!!
[17:11] <reisio> hi geek
[17:14] <AndChat196224> I am using kali linux in virtual machine,and upgrading to latest version upgrading will take 10 hours of time half is done how to pause that upgrade for a while and start from where it is pause ..,  any body thanks
[17:16] <Pici> AndChat196224: We do not support Kali Linux here, please use their support channel instead: #kali-linux
[17:16] <johnson1> Hi guys. How do I bypass ubuntu's x interface at boot without altering config files?
[17:16] <wotan147> anyone knows why muon (on kubuntu) does not show all the sources writtern in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:18] <herrkin> hello community, I have a fresh install of ubuntu, I configured the static ip on it and it connects to the web, updates just fine but I cant ping it. if I connect other machine to the same cable with the same ip settings I can ping that one. what can be happening?
[17:18] <herrkin> I have to add that I am on a different network segment, if I connect to the same network it pings the server just fine
[17:19] <herrkin> does ubuntu server have a built in restriction I have to unlock? first time it happens to me. I had a similar setup with the same machine before and it worked just fine
[17:20] <liquideee> how do i find when a package has been upgraded in ubuntu's repository (using web only?)
[17:21] <aqd> why all VPN types in 15.04 give me some agent error and unable to connect unless I set plain password directly in /etc/...
[17:21] <changnesia> FrankfromHR: I have and it corresponded
[17:21] <genii> liquideee: Check the archives of the #ubuntu-changes mailing list
[17:23] <liquideee> I am having problems with bcmwl driver for wifi. since today, loading the driver causes kernel panic. It doesnt seem that it has been updated as /var/log/apt/history does not indicate it was
[17:23] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: Do you ahve another computer you can test the USB key on?
[17:23] <changnesia> Frankfromhr:Sadly no
[17:24] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: hmm, and you've tried a different usb key?
[17:26] <changnesia> frankfromhr: Yes, and that one didn't work at all.
[17:26] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: I think you might have to find yourself another computer and confirm that the usb key is working properly..
[17:28] <changnesia> *FrankfromHR:I will be able to do that later, but I the old pc I have at home uses bios afaik.
[17:29] <FrankFromHR> changnesia: That's fine, at least you'll be able to confirm that the usb and the image are all working properly.
[17:30] <daftykins> liquideee: not much beyond not using it and looking up the alternatives for your broadcom model. this isn't a mac, is it?
[17:30] <changnesia> Frankfromhr:Yes, that's right.
[17:31] <liquideee> daftykins: its lenovo yoga pro 3
[17:31] <daftykins> liquideee: ah yeah you said, my bad.
[17:31] <liquideee> daftykins: i hope there are any alternatives :P
[17:31] <daftykins> liquideee: so what's the broadcom model?
[17:31] <daftykins> !broadcom
[17:31] <liquideee> BCM4352
[17:32] <daftykins> hmm don't think i've heard of that model before.
[17:32] <tobyj> daftykins: nothing for tftp in netstat
[17:34] <daftykins> tobyj: sounds like it's not even configured to use a port, perhaps read up on what you installed and check its' config file :)
[17:34] <FrankFromHR> tobyj: You normally have to set DHCP options to tell the PXE Bios which server hosts the boot files.
[17:35] <daftykins> FrankFromHR: that's not very useful considering the daemon isn't even listening yet :)
[17:35] <tobyj> daftykins: http://puu.sh/jBtYR/1467db15d1.png
[17:35] <tobyj> there's the contents of /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
[17:35] <FrankFromHR> daftykins: oh he hasn't even gotten that part going? nevermind then :)
[17:36] <daftykins> tobyj: sorry but i don't use it, i can't look it up for you.
[17:36] <tobyj> ahhhh
[17:36] <tobyj> thank you anyway
[17:36] <daftykins> np
[17:37] <daftykins> oh, although that should probably be an IP - and /tftpboot should exist :)
[17:37] <tgm4883> daftykins: nah, 0.0.0.0 should work there
[17:37] <tobyj> right, got tftp up
[17:38] <tobyj> but now I'm back to file not found
[17:38] <tobyj> permissions are set properly on /tftpboot according to the guide
[17:38] <tobyj> that is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[17:38] <FrankFromHR> tobyj: you're grabbing the IP from the DHCP server on the ubunut server and not from a router or something else in the network right?
[17:39] <tobyj> yeah, it's getting the right IP
[17:39] <AndChat196224> Or ubuntu how to puase downloading for a day
[17:39] <tobyj> 10.0.0.2
[17:39] <tobyj> I fixed the problem
[17:39] <tobyj> isc was looking for /tftpboot/pxelinux.0 inside /tftpboot
[17:40] <tobyj> so /tftpboot/tftpboot/pxelinux.0
[17:40] <FrankFromHR> ahh
[17:40] <cfhowlett> AndChat196224, depends how and what you are downloading.  details???
[17:40] <tgm4883> tobyj: yea that sounds about right, if you set the TFTP server to use that directory AND you set the DHCP options to include that directory
[17:41] <tobyj> now the kernel isn't mounting the nfs share properly
[17:41] <tobyj> network unreachable, but I already configured the net adapter
[17:41] <AndChat196224> cfhowlett it is running on my terminal downloading lots of new pacakages
[17:41] <tgm4883> AndChat196224: like apt-get?
[17:42] <cfhowlett> AndChat196224, so if you don't run the terminal you don't get the downloads, right?
[17:42] <liquideee> ehh, the package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta does not install - problems with module compilation :/
[17:44] <AndChat196224> No like downloading not installation from repository downloding through command cfhowlett,tgm4883
[17:44] <cfhowlett> AndChat196224, if you need downloads to stop, STOP downloading!
[17:44] <daftykins> liquideee: do you have build-essential installed?
[17:45] <liquideee> daftykins: yes. I checked the make log and its some "wrong number of arguments in function ....". Looks bad :/
[17:45] <liquideee> daftykins: I've got headers for my kernel as weel
[17:45] <liquideee> as well
[17:45] <daftykins> oh well
[17:46] <liquideee> this package is supposed to give more recent drivers for my chip
[17:46] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: I think he means, stop downloading with the ability to resume tomorrow. But we really don't have enough info
[17:46] <AndChat196224> Yes tgm4883
[17:46] <liquideee> and im now f***ed because this laptop does not have ethernet :D
[17:47] <AndChat196224> That's what I m saying
[17:47] <tgm4883> AndChat196224: I'm still not entirely sure what you are downloading
[17:47] <cfhowlett> AndChat196224, you can interrupt and restart downloads with wget -c PackageNameHere                    I think curl command also does this, but I've never curl'd
[17:48] <AndChat196224> Can I snapshot it
[17:48] <AndChat196224> On virtual machine
[17:48] <AndChat196224> Would this will help
[17:48] <daftykins> liquideee: which version of it are you grabbing?
[17:49] <liquideee> daftykins: I've downloaded this one manually from launchpad: broadcom-sta-dkms_6.30.223.248-3_all
[17:50] <tobyj> okay, so the kernel boots fine now
[17:50] <tobyj> but it seems nfs is misconfigured
[17:50] <tobyj> "network unreachable, permission denied, nfs over tcp not available from 10.0.0.1"
[17:51] <tobyj> 10.0.0.1 being the NFS server, which is definitely working
[17:51] <daftykins> tobyj: could you take it to #ubuntu-server ? i feel it's more relevant there.
[17:51] <tobyj> sure
[17:51] <daftykins> liquideee: oh for being offline, mmm - did the live session's wireless work fine?
[17:51] <cfhowlett> AndChat196224, a vm?  you can shut down the device on virtualbox and restart it from a saved state.
[17:52] <AndChat196224> R u sure this gonna help cfhowlett
[17:52] <AndChat196224> With downloading
[17:52] <liquideee> daftykins: I didn't launch one recently, but when I installed ubuntu the bcmwl-kernel-source package supplied bcmwl module which worked fine, even after installation. Until today. Today I have fiddled with setting manual IP and this happened
[17:52] <cfhowlett> AndChat196224, I prefer wget -c myself
[17:53] <daftykins> liquideee: yeah why did you do that?
[17:53] <daftykins> NM can be used to set a static IP on a wireless connection reliably
[17:54] <liquideee> daftykins: I've got a dhcp server on raspberry PI on my network and the power reseted today so raspberry rebooted and mounted sdcard as readonly, resulting in dnsmasq failing to start
[17:54] <liquideee> daftykins: I had to set up the ip manually and go into the device to fix dhcp
[17:54] <liquideee> daftykins: I used NM to change the ip
[17:55] <liquideee> daftykins: but when i tried restarting wifi after that, it started panicking
[17:56] <LonelyCoder_> 'AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH' - linux kernel
[17:56] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: that's not helpful.
[17:56] <LonelyCoder_> :'(
[17:57] <cem__> what is the difference x window system with terminal ?
[17:57] <liquideee> daftykins: maybe you know how to get touchscreen or touchpad working again? :P check which module it is etc
[17:57] <cem__> both are same
[17:58] <cem__> ]can someone help me on this
[17:58] <daftykins> liquideee: nope not my field.
[17:59] <liquideee> daftykins:okay, thanks for help :)
[17:59] <daftykins> cem__: sure, once you ask a coherent question
[17:59] <daftykins> !details
[17:59] <LonelyCoder_> We want a program that runs /bin/bash so we can use a CLI interface
[18:00] <LonelyCoder_> These are called 'terminal emulators'. Basically wannabe terminals that run ontop of X
[18:01] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: I do good? :D
[18:01] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: so gnome-terminal , xterm, terminator... plenty of others?
[18:01] <daftykins> not really no
[18:02] <cem__>  x window system vs terminal  , is both are same ? daftykins
[18:02] <daftykins> no, the X server is the GUI
[18:03] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: They are windows that pass stdin and stdout to bash
[18:03] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: so why is running the default 'terminal' application a problem?
[18:03] <cem__> both look same to me
[18:04] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: It's not. :P
[18:04] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: What's the difference between xterm and terminal other than font?
[18:05] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: then i don't understand what you're asking for.
[18:05] <LonelyCoder_> I was answering cem__'s question :P
[18:05] <daftykins> cem__: do you mean the difference between a GUI terminal emulator application and a TTY? (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[18:06] <daftykins> what the hell.
[18:07] <ioria> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/21280/difference-between-pts-and-tty
[18:07] <cem__> i dont understand daftykins  , i'm newbie pls explain it since both looks same to me
[18:08] <daftykins> sorry, your question doesn't even make sense so there's nothing to be explained
[18:09] <samfreenode> What online backup service should I use? I know of Dropbox and Google Drive, but MEGA looks pretty good?
[18:09] <samfreenode> Is MEGA legal?
[18:09] <cem__> k is there any other linux channel where i can ask question ?
[18:09] <cfhowlett> samfreenode, thus far, mega seems legal.
[18:09] <cfhowlett> cem__, ##linux
[18:09] <LonelyCoder_> ioria: You have to explain about 30 words in this URL to me
[18:10] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: I don't want the USA to raid the servers and lose all my data, like what happened with MegaUpload
[18:10] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: 50GB of free encrypted storage seems like the best deal right now though...
[18:11] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: Is there a catch though?
[18:11] <ioria> LonelyCoder_, meaning ... it's not clear  or that is clear ?
[18:11] <cfhowlett> samfreenode, I don't work for MEGA.  It's legal.  for more info, read the user agreement.
[18:12] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: Which service do you use?
[18:12] <LonelyCoder_> ioria: 'A pts is the slave part of a pty.'
[18:12] <cfhowlett> samfreenode, owncloud but that's just me
[18:13] <LonelyCoder_> ioria: 'A pty is created by a process through posix_openpt()'
[18:13] <LonelyCoder_> ioria: 'file descriptor'
[18:13] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: Why?
[18:15] <ioria> LonelyCoder_, file descriptor is like int fd =0, or FILE * fd , its used to open, read and wrtite streams
[18:15] <cfhowlett> samfreenode, http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issue96_en.pdf
[18:15] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: lmao why don't any of the comparison sites include MEGA?
[18:16] <ioria> LonelyCoder_, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoterminal
[18:16] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: Which page?
[18:16] <ioria> LonelyCoder_, posix_openpt()' its the function that 'open' for example
[18:16] <samfreenode> Ah Linux Lab?
[18:17] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: Okay so where is the server?
[18:17] <cfhowlett> samfreenode, read the article.
[18:17] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: You own two buildings?
[18:17] <LonelyCoder_> ioria: Is that a linux system call?
[18:18] <ioria> LonelyCoder_,  well, don't remember.. . that or  a function of C, but i think it's a SC
[18:20] <ioria> LonelyCoder_,  Standard C Library (libc, −lc)
[18:21] <samfreenode> cfhowlett: Is bandwidth total GBs or just GB/s?
[18:21] <bekks> GBs is GB/s :)
[18:22] <bekks> You refer to the difference between e.g. Gigabyte and Gigabit.
[18:22] <sdistefano> hi! I need to setup two different X sessions, one per monitor
[18:22] <LonelyCoder_> Gigabyte = 10 ** 9 bytes; Gibibyte = 2 ** 30 bytes
[18:22] <sdistefano> did anyone try somehting like this?
[18:23] <LonelyCoder_> Correct if wrong :O
[18:23] <bekks> sdistefano: Whats the problem you are trying to solve actually?
[18:23] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: this is an OS support channel, not a 'learn how computers work' channel
[18:23] <sdistefano> I have two monitors, one needs to be usable and the other to run a screen where the mouse never appears
[18:24] <bekks> sdistefano: And why dont you want two monitors to be usable?
[18:24] <sdistefano> so one computer powering a headless screen with just a chrome running a webpage, the other screen for normal usage
[18:24] <daftykins> sdistefano: for what purpose?
[18:24] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: :P okay I'll shut up
[18:24] <bekks> sdistefano: If a computer has a monitor, it isnt headless.
[18:24] <sdistefano> it's for a business, one is an information screen
[18:24] <bekks> So you basically want one X server with two monitors.
[18:24] <daftykins> sdistefano: you should run it dedicated
[18:25] <sdistefano> yes, but one of them without mouse or keyboard
[18:25] <daftykins> even some old junker laptop would do.
[18:25] <sdistefano> daftykins: I thought about it, but that has disadvantages too
[18:25] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: Is lpr still used today, or should you just go through the program that created the pdf?
[18:25] <sdistefano> if both screens run the same browser my software can work even if the internet goes down for example
[18:25] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: stop asking me things directly please, address the channel.
[18:26] <LonelyCoder_> Hows I set up printers on ubuntu
[18:26] <daftykins> sdistefano: i don't see how internet connectivity changes a dedicated laptop that you can remote into - from being appropriate
[18:27] <daftykins> LonelyCoder_: plug it in and then visit http://localhost:631
[18:27] <sdistefano> that's related to how my software works
[18:27] <daftykins> !cups
[18:27] <sdistefano> in any case, is it too difficult to do hwat I want?
[18:27] <LonelyCoder_> daftykins: Ahh cool, Im gonna go through each of those pages, thanks man!
[18:27] <sdistefano> just another X server on the second screen with matchbox
[18:27] <daftykins> sdistefano: i think it'd be a nightmare if you're trying to put this on a customers office machine
[18:29] <sdistefano> running an old laptop oculd also be a nightmare, HD failures and such
[18:29] <sdistefano> could you give me pointers on how to look this up online?
[18:30] <daftykins> sdistefano: i think that's far less of a likelihood versus your approach.
[18:30] <sdistefano> what's so wrong about running a second X server on another screen?
[18:30] <daftykins> you didn't really answer whether it's a customers desktop that'll do this or not
[18:31] <sdistefano> it's my own shop
[18:31] <sdistefano> one screen takes orders
[18:31] <sdistefano> another screen shows orders taken
[18:32] <sdistefano> if it's the same computer, it can even work offline as long as it's the same browser and user
[18:32] <bekks> Why not ONE X server with two windows...?
[18:32] <sdistefano> that's also a psosibility
[18:32] <sdistefano> as long as I can prevent the mouse from going to the second screen
[18:33] <bekks> Dont move it ther.e
[18:33] <daftykins> that'd be the user's responsibility
[18:33] <sdistefano> no, I can't do that
[18:34] <bekks> Why not. Is it too tempting?
[18:34] <sdistefano> it's non technical staff, a busy shop...
[18:34] <sdistefano> that's way more likely than HD failure
[18:34] <sdistefano> that someone will click mindlessly and close the window on the second screen
[18:35] <daftykins> can you not just train users that use this machine?
[18:35] <daftykins> also, are you not vulnerable to power failures?
[18:35] <bekks> That would be too tragetting.
[18:35] <bekks> *targetting
[18:36] <sdistefano> I really would prefer having the computer automaticlaly fire up two screens with a browser on each
[18:36] <sdistefano> and the second screen being fully inaccessible to the user
[18:37] <daftykins> so get cracking?
[18:37] <sdistefano> mm?
[18:37] <daftykins> i'm seeing plenty of info from "ubuntu run two x servers"
[18:38] <daftykins> but i've never touched the WM you mentioned, i don't even know if that's in the repos off-hand (matchbox)
[18:38] <sdistefano> dwell for a start, as soon as I run X with teh auto generated file it's all wrong
[18:38] <sdistefano> with graphical glitches all oer
[18:38] <daftykins> 'dwell' ?
[18:38] <daftykins> oh typo.
[18:38] <Michelle--------> Fatal error: Class 'Stripe\Customer' not found in /preview/charge.php on line 6
[18:39] <Michelle--------> I included the stripe library not sure why im getting that message
[18:39] <daftykins> Michelle--------: that sounds like web development which is totally off topic here.
[18:39] <Michelle--------> oh wrong channel
[18:39] <Michelle--------> lol
[18:39] <Michelle--------> stupid autojoin
[18:40] <daftykins> sdistefano: what 'auto generated file' ?
[18:41] <sdistefano> X - configure
[18:41] <sdistefano> will auto generate an xorg.conf file that doesn't really wokr well
[18:41] <Technobliterator> So, it doesn't look like any of my RAM is corrupted or broken, so I don't get why Ubuntu is crashing? ?__?
[18:41] <sdistefano> and if I want to know the automatic ubuntu config that works well, I can't seem to get it
[18:41] <daftykins> sdistefano: i would think what you want to be editing is lightdm, not Xorg.
[18:42] <daftykins> Technobliterator: can you start from the beginning?
[18:42] <Technobliterator> Beginning of the problem, you mean?
[18:42] <daftykins> what else could i mean?
[18:43] <Technobliterator> Just making sure :p anyways, I basically installed Ubuntu 15.04 on my PC, and it would freeze amd require restarts every now and then
[18:44] <daftykins> what system is this?
[18:44] <Technobliterator> So I just ran a test as advised by people here, and apparently nothing is wrong with my RAM
[18:44] <Technobliterator> uh, I don't remember the PC's name
[18:45] <daftykins> isn't it right in front of you?
[18:48] <rodd> hi once i return from sleep on t450s I cannot do anything, only the mouse works, the login screen is just frozen, any idea?
[18:50] <Technobliterator> no, the name of the box is not in front of me
[18:50] <rodd> apparently intel rapid start is causing this
[18:50] <daftykins> Technobliterator: so it's a custom build system or what? i don't follow...
[18:51] <ioria> rodd you mean 'suspend' ?
[18:51] <rodd> ioria: yes
[18:51] <Technobliterator> It was custom built
[18:51] <Technobliterator> I can tell you some of the specs
[18:51] <daftykins> Technobliterator: so how many passes of memtest did you run?
[18:52] <ioria> rodd had a similar issue ... i renamed /usr/share/app-install/desktop/light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop with another name ... and i solved,  ... but not sure is the correct solution :(
[18:53] <Technobliterator> Only ran it full through once, but it provided no errors. I was advised if it gave no errors the first time, it wouldn't again
[18:53] <daftykins> Technobliterator: ok, so is it an up to date installation?
[18:53] <daftykins> how long does it take to lock up?
[18:53] <rodd> ioria: i dont think intel rapid start is useful with a ssd
[18:54] <rodd> so i just disabled it, will test but thanks for the heads up on what you did
[18:54] <ioria> rodd np
[18:54] <Technobliterator> I believe it's up to date, since I got the latest from Ubuntu's site. It could take aby time between 20 minutes and an hour to freeze
[18:55] <daftykins> Technobliterator: no, you must install updates *after* installing the latest version
[18:55] <dshap> Hey all, I’m trying to follow these steps (https://github.com/JazzCore/python-pdfkit/wiki/Using-wkhtmltopdf-without-X-server) and I’m getting a permission denied message on the 3rd step despite the fact that I’m running it as “sudo”…1) Why is that? and 2) What can I do to work around?
[18:56] <rasalghul> Hi!
[18:56] <Technobliterator> oh, it didn't do that? I assumed it was downloading during update which was why it asked for a wifi connection... Oh well I'm an idiot then
[18:56] <Pici> dshap: instead of using sudo on it, replace the > with | sudo tee
[18:56] <daftykins> dshap: switch to root with "sudo -i" then execute the script, you may need to "chmod +x blah.sh" first.
[18:56] <Technobliterator> Okay, I'll come back once I've fully updated and see if it's different, thanks
[18:56] <daftykins> Technobliterator: well it may have done, but it's an option too
[18:56] <dshap> daftykins: why can i do “sudo -i” but if i do “su root” i need a password?
[18:57] <Pici> dshap: you can do sudo -i without a password because you used sudo recently, it caches the password for a few minutes
[18:57] <daftykins> !root | dshap
[18:57] <dshap> Pici: ah
[18:57] <dshap> daftykins: thanks
[19:01] <rasalghul> I have a trouble when I want delete files or folders... showsme this message "Cannot move file to trash, do you want to delete immediately?"
[19:02] <rasalghul> in ubuntu 14.04.3
[19:02] <rasalghul> how can I fix ?
[19:03] <daftykins> rasalghul: is this on a mounted external disk? or an NTFS disk perhaps?
[19:05] <rasalghul> daftykins, no, I have install Windows 8.1 and ubuntu on my laptop.... but I want to delete files from my desktop
[19:05] <daftykins> rasalghul: what desktop?
[19:06] <rasalghul> desktop folder on my computer, or home directory
[19:07] <ioria> rasalghul, who's the owner of Trash ? ls -al ~/.local/share
[19:09] <rasalghul> ioria, drwx------  4 root      root      4096 ago 12 13:42 Trash
[19:09] <ioria> no
[19:09] <ioria> must be you
[19:10] <ioria> chown -R
[19:10] <misho_> I have one question
[19:10] <daftykins> misho_: ask away
[19:11] <ioria> rasalghul, sudo chown  -R username:username Trash, i think
[19:11] <misho_> Is it possible to install Heroes of might and magic 3 linux version on modern ubuntu 15.04
[19:11] <rasalghul> ioria, ok
[19:12] <misho_> I really love this game
[19:12] <rasalghul> ioria, so I have to replace username for my user?
[19:12] <FrankFromHR> misho_: Probably using wine
[19:12] <ioria> rasalghul, guess so
[19:13] <daftykins> !wine | misho_ look it up in their app database
[19:13] <misho_> No,not wine...im talking about linux version
[19:13] <rasalghul> sudo chown -R rasalghul:rasalghul Trash ??
[19:13] <ioria> rasalghul, guess so
[19:13] <daftykins> rasalghul: hopefully you are not running these commands as root@host right now
[19:13] <wout> Did anyone try to upgrade to windows 10 while using grub for dualbooting? Did it give any problems?
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> rasalghul  whats the outcome of   whoami
[19:14] <misho_> i know that is easy with wine...but i want to run it naturally
[19:14] <ioria> rasalghul, wait ....
[19:14] <wileee> wout, no problems here.
[19:14] <rasalghul> ioria, says... no such file or directory
[19:14] <wout> wileee, ok thanks!
[19:14] <ioria> rasalghul, you must be in .local/share
[19:14] <FrankFromHR> misho_: How can you 'naturally' run a windows program in linux?
[19:15] <wileee> wout, I'm msdos however not uefi, always backup
[19:15] <ioria> rasalghul, see MonkeyDust comment
[19:15] <rasalghul> MonkeyDust, rasalghul
[19:15] <misho_> FrankFromHR, There is a linux version
[19:15] <ioria> rasalghul, cd ~/.local/share
[19:15] <FrankFromHR> misho_: Then go buy the linux version.....?
[19:15] <misho_> I have it
[19:15] <misho_> i need guidence for installing
[19:16] <misho_> that is what i ask but none of you reading carefully
[19:16] <ikonia> misho_: what's not clear ?
[19:16] <rasalghul> ioria, and then what?
[19:17] <ioria> rasalghul, issue the command ....
[19:18] <rasalghul> ioria, I found this  https://askubuntu.com/questions/288513/cant-move-files-to-the-trash
[19:19] <ioria> rasalghul, it says the same..... no ?
[19:19] <ikonia> win 10
[19:19] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[19:20] <daftykins> misho_: no, we are reading carefully but you never mentioned these games came with a native Linux version, your first question should have started with "i have this file but don't know what to do with it"
[19:20] <ikonia> daftykins: they don't
[19:20] <ikonia> daftykins: they appear to be windows / ios / android
[19:20] <daftykins> ikonia: well yeah but that's the point entirely isn't it.
[19:20] <rasalghul> ioria, yes
[19:20] <daftykins> user's claiming there is.
[19:21] <ikonia> it seems to be nonsense
[19:21] <daftykins> wout: yes i was using 10 preview and installed many builds too, GRUB remained in place :)
[19:21] <ikonia> as he claims to have bought a linux version - but is then asking if it's possible to run it on linux
[19:21] <misho_> daftykins, my first question was... "Is it possible to install Heroes of might and magic 3 linux version on modern ubuntu 15.04"
[19:21] <rasalghul> ioria, it works!!! :D
[19:21] <ikonia> misho_: there is no native linux version - so how do you want to run it ?
[19:21] <ioria> rasalghul, horra !!!
[19:21] <daftykins> misho_: right and we said go look it up
[19:22] <rasalghul> now I can delete files and folders
[19:22] <misho_> ikonia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III
[19:22] <rasalghul> ioria, thank you very much guys!!!
[19:22] <ikonia> misho_: no - look at the website
[19:22] <ioria> rasalghul, np
[19:23] <ikonia> misho_: their website shows you the products they offer
[19:23] <wout> daftykins, thanks! I'm not sure if i'm using uefi on this system, anyway will definately backup before I upgrade :D
[19:23] <ioria> rasalghul, i would be interesting to know how you end up in this situation ....
[19:23] <ikonia> rather than wikipedia
[19:23] <ioria> *it
[19:23] <misho_> Loki Software doesn't exist in present days
[19:23] <ikonia> what ?
[19:23] <ikonia> software exists
[19:24] <ikonia> misho_: could you try to clarify what you are saying / asking
[19:24] <misho_> Loki Software is the company developed linux version of Heroes 3
[19:24] <FrankFromHR> ikonia: I think he means the company
[19:24] <rasalghul> ioria, happy! lol
[19:24] <ikonia> misho_: right - so their website doesn't have a linux version, and the company doesn't exist.....how do you want to run it on linux
[19:24] <FrankFromHR> misho_: http://www.lgdb.org/game/heroes_might_and_magic_iii
[19:24] <Zyynz> irc://irc.rizon.net/horriblesubs
[19:24] <ioria> :-()
[19:25] <daftykins> Zyynz: are you trying to connect to that server + channel?
[19:26] <misho_> FrankFromHR, ikonia  - please see that page http://www.lokigames.com/products/heroes3/
[19:26] <cfhowlett> misho_, have you TRIED to install this ubuntu?
[19:27] <ikonia> misho_: that tells me nothing
[19:27] <misho_> yes,but long time ago...in ubuntu 9.10
[19:27] <misho_> and now i ask will this is going to run on 15.04
[19:28] <ikonia> misho_: try it
[19:28] <cfhowlett> misho_, test it for yourself.  this is a huge waste of time when you could easily find out for yourself.
[19:28] <cfhowlett> not to mention a bit lazy.
[19:29] <misho_> ikonia,  i used to install this game from good guide...but i can't find it...so i aks for help in this case
[19:29] <ikonia> how did you install it before ?
[19:30] <misho_> there is sh file
[19:30] <ikonia> ok - so run that
[19:30] <ikonia> what more do you want ?
[19:31] <misho_> but after that...there is an icon in menu which is mean that i made it....but when i try to run nothing is happend
[19:31] <Technobliterator> so much to update 0.0
[19:32] <ikonia> misho_: ok - so you know there is a problem
[19:32] <ikonia> the installer doesn't work properly/the game doesn't work properly on 15.04
[19:35] <emcfins> hi - i'm relatively new to ubuntu - should i set a root password? during install, it didn't prompt me to set one
[19:35] <ikonia> emcfins: no
[19:35] <cfhowlett> !root | emcfins
[19:35] <mcphail> emcfins: no
[19:36] <emcfins> what happens when something goes sideways and upon boot it asks you to enter the root password for maintenance?
[19:36] <wileee> Technobliterator, swappiness may be an issue with freezing, check changing the swap %
[19:36] <ikonia> emcfins: it doesn't
[19:36] <ioria> misho_, read this thread maybe it helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209174
[19:37] <ikonia> emcfins: I suggest you learn the basics before trying to do complex things like boot into single user mode as root to fix things
[19:37] <mobeus> emcfins: the best answer for desktop users is to leave it alone. however, if you need to restrict sudo rights. It is good to have the root password set. Danger Danger.
[19:37] <Technobliterator> I'm currently updating software, but it's taking a while
[19:37] <emcfins> right - but if you don't set a root password, how are you going to do that?
[19:37] <ikonia> !sudo | emcfins
[19:37] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, no need for the running commentary
[19:38] <wileee> mobeus, Do not suggest a root password here, in an of hand way.
[19:38] <ikonia> emcfins: again - if you learn the basics, you'll understand how the security model works, before diving in trying to be root
[19:38] <emcfins> ha - you can only sudo when you are booted
[19:38] <wileee> off*
[19:38] <ikonia> emcfins: right, but again, if you understand the ubuntu security model, you'll understand why you don't need a root password
[19:38] <emcfins> so - no one will answer my question  just that i don't need to
[19:38] <ikonia> emcfins: what question are you not getting a response to ?
[19:39] <cfhowlett> emcfins, your question was directly answered.
[19:40] <mobeus> wilee: there are reasons for setting a root password. however, I agree this is an extreme case and extremely discourged for most users.
[19:40] <OerHeks> emcfins, what do you want to prove here?... and you are answered.
[19:40] <emcfins> i don't want to prove anything
[19:40] <ikonia> emcfins: whats the question/not clear ?
[19:40] <josharenson> can I use git/bzr to take snapshots of a chroot?
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> emcfins  you don't need a root password
[19:40] <emcfins> but i guess the answer is reboot into maintenance mode when that happens
[19:40] <wileee> mobeus, Cool, it is just the well all to special design of ubuntu, ;)
[19:41] <mobeus> wileee: Agreed! :D
[19:41] <wileee> ;)
[19:42] <mobeus> emcfins: if you need access to the system before the system is booted.
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[19:43] <cfhowlett> __momak35NS, no spam here.  stop now.
[19:43] <emcfins> ikonia: it does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061703
[19:43] <emcfins> but thank you for the answers
[19:43] <ikonia> emcfins: ?
[19:43] <mobeus> Grub is the way to go. But this is for experienced users only. You could jack up your system easily
[19:44] <webber_> oi
[19:44] <emcfins> ikonia: you said that it doesn't prompt you for the root password. it, indeed does. but thank you for answering everyone. appreciated!
[19:45] <daftykins> even though that forum post was from 2009 *facepalm*
[19:45] <facepalm> What?
[19:45] <daftykins> facepalm: with me around your nick is a very bad choice in here :)
[19:45] <ikonia> elysium_: it won't in revovery mode and that is an old version when you have SET the root password
[19:45]  * facepalm  
[19:50] <guel> hello
[19:51] <daftykins> hi
[19:55] <rodd> iooner: hey what was the solution again?
[19:55] <rodd> every time I suspend this t450s, i cannot restore
[20:20] <lxde> hi
[20:20] <daftykins> hello
[20:23] <lxde> I tried to install lxqt on ubuntu 14.4.3 LTS and after reboot screen have bad resolution and no possible to change it and graphic is very low
[20:23] <SoItBegins> I'm trying to get to the command line from a Ubuntu 15.04 LiveCD.
[20:24] <SoItBegins> I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, but it's asking me for a login.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> SoItBegins  ctrl-alt t
[20:24] <SoItBegins> Oh.
[20:24] <SoItBegins> Ctrl+Alt+T: nothing happens.
[20:25] <daftykins> lxde: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what's up, although i don't think lxqt is in the repos is it? so perhaps unsupported.
[20:25] <SoItBegins> Oh wait, it's really really slow. There it goes.
[20:25] <daftykins> heh
[20:25] <serendependy> SoItBegins, It *is* a live CD ;)
[20:26] <robbmunson> SoItBegins: Give it time, ram's cranky! :P
[20:28] <lxde> command not found
[20:28] <lxde> I add it to repp
[20:29] <misho_> Hello again...yesterday i have managed to access to my windows PC...and with VLC i watched movie...today i can't find the other Windows PC...what can i do in this situation...reinstall samba?
[20:30] <reisio> make sure it's on
[20:30] <wafflejock> lxde: PPAs aren't supported here if you install from a third party you need to get support there
[20:30] <misho_> reisio, it is
[20:30] <narkal> hello
[20:30] <reisio> make sure its IP is what you think it is
[20:30] <reisio> narkal: hi
[20:31] <narkal> guys, can you help with sth about social engineering toolkit?
[20:31] <misho_> reisio, there is no ip conflict
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> narkal  social engineering toolkit? this is ubuntu support
[20:32] <narkal> well, i know..but since i'm using ubuntu i thought of passing
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> narkal  what's social engineering toolkit?
[20:33] <narkal> nvm..just had an issue with a configuration file
[20:34] <Technobliterator> is 10 a good swappiness value?
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> Technobliterator  yes
[20:34] <Technobliterator> ah, sweet
[20:35] <reisio> if you've plenty of RAM
[20:37] <tonyaldo> What the major difference between hexchat and xchat?
[20:38] <daftykins> hexchat is community supported and still updated afaiui
[20:38] <tgm4883> daftykins: I would have went with "he"
[20:38] <tonyaldo> ah ok thanks :)
[20:39] <daftykins> tgm4883: ?
[20:40] <tgm4883> daftykins: the difference between hexchat and xchat is the letters 'he'
[20:40] <tgm4883> thanks, I'll see myself out
[20:40] <tgm4883> :)
[20:40] <daftykins> ah i thought you had something useful to contribute ;)
[20:40] <tgm4883> daftykins: nah, not today
[20:41] <tonyaldo> lol tgm4883
[20:43] <Zenderyx> i'm on xchat, and i'm really okay with it
[20:44] <BlueXombie> xchat compared to kvirc is like having an old flip phone compared to a smart phone
[20:45] <BlueXombie> but, Each to his own.
[20:46] <daftykins> at the end of the day we're talking about multiplayer notepad, so you know - you can't really have a comparison of that far apart :P
[20:46] <tonyaldo> irssi > everything
[20:47] <tgm4883> irccloud?
[20:48] <misho_> Anybody?
[20:48] <tonyaldo> its a cli irc client
[20:48] <daftykins> misho_: install smbclient and confirm it works in CLI
[20:50] <misho_> daftykins, it is installed because it is a part of samba
[20:51] <FrankFromHR> tonyaldo: I'm using weechat myself.. cli irc client as well
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> ok guys, keep your irc client choices for offtopic
[20:53] <blackwind_123> hi all, i have ubuntu ver 14 64-bit running in VM, and its failing to recognize my 16 GB flash drive .... any suggestions...? please
[20:53] <robbmunson> ^ +1 support room, not general chat.
[20:53] <tonyaldo> k
[20:54] <FrankFromHR> Nobody had asked a question for like 20 minutes..
[20:54] <wafflejock> FrankFromHR: still just keep non support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:55] <daftykins> misho_: ok but that's of no relevance to me
[20:55] <blackwind_123> FrankFromHR : i just asked a question... :|
[20:56] <FrankFromHR> blackwind_123: What have you tried?
[20:57] <daftykins> blackwind_123: what virt tech?
[20:57] <blackwind_123> FrankFromHR : general suggestion from SO. tried to lsusb , ldisk nothing shows me the device itself...
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> blackwind_123  assuming it's virtualbax, i guess that question is more for #virtualbox than for #ubuntu
[20:57] <misho_> daftykins, anyway...thanks i will ask tomorrow if there is no solution
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[20:57] <daftykins> misho_: er, well have you tried to connect yet with smbclient?
[20:58] <blackwind_123> daftykins : VMware running in Windows 7
[20:58] <blackwind_123> i posted here cause few of the blogs pointed it to be a UBUNTU bug...
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> blackwind_123  vmware player or station?
[20:59] <daftykins> blackwind_123: so you click the USB device on the vmware window and select to connect it to the VM, then do you see anything from "dmesg | tail" ?
[20:59] <blackwind_123> daftykins : VMware workstation 10
[20:59] <misho_> daftykins, i don't know how to work with smbclient
[21:00] <daftykins> misho_: so read the manpage... "man smbclient" - it's pretty simple, just type "smbclient //x.x.x.x/myshare -U username"
[21:01] <FrankFromHR> blackwind_123: USB 3.0
[21:01] <FrankFromHR> blackwind_123: ?
[21:01] <user1254> does anyone know an easy way to manage the pulseaudio modules , ie load module-switch-on-connect etc?
[21:02] <blackwind_123> daftykins : http://pastebin.com/vRG9PU3Q this is the output of dmesg |tail
[21:03] <blackwind_123> FrankFromHR : no, device is USB 2.0 and  plugged to 2.0 USB port
[21:03] <amirite> Hi, I have an apt repo that has expired GPG keys and I need to somehow fix/renew those. Can anyone link me to some directions? My google results are just people who can't apt-update because of a server they don't manage, but I'm managing this apt repo "GPG error The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1438896702 KEYEXPIRED 1438896702 KEYEXPIRED 1438896702"
[21:03] <daftykins> blackwind_123: so there's no sign that it's even been passed through, confirm it has even been connected to the VM
[21:04] <FrankFromHR> blackwind_123: And you've gone to VM>Removable Devices and attached it to the VM?
[21:04] <blackwind_123> daftykins : correct... its all blind...
[21:04] <daftykins> detach and reattach
[21:04] <daftykins> if dmesg shows nothing, it ain't there ;)
[21:04] <blackwind_123> FrankFromHR : yes, thats the same way i did, but the check box is getting checked
[21:04] <daftykins> i use the icons bottom right
[21:05] <FrankFromHR> Same dif
[21:05] <daftykins> yeah
[21:05] <daftykins> disconnect the drive physically, shutdown, close the GUI, restart the USB passthrough service from services.msc then start up and try again
[21:07] <tonyaldo> amirite, is your time/date correct on your machine?
[21:08] <daftykins> !pm
[21:09] <tester> I know how to check what repository provides a package by using apt show package. Say I don't have the repository for that package but I still want to know what it is so that I can add it and then install the pkg. How do I find this on the web?
[21:09] <blackwind_123> daftykins : i did, and now there is pop up display saying the driver error... and no new lines in dmesg | tail...
[21:09] <amirite> tonyaldo tonyaldo, yeah and the key is definitely expired
[21:09] <daftykins> blackwind_123: what driver? popup from what?
[21:09] <amirite> i'm the repo maintainer and i need to replace the key
[21:09] <daftykins> show proof please.
[21:09] <amirite> but i don't know how
[21:10] <amirite> and google isn't helping
[21:10] <daftykins> blackwind_123: actually, it's proving this isn't an ubuntu issue at all to be honest. perhaps find a channel for vmware
[21:10] <blackwind_123> daftykins : i guess its a usual warning display used by UBUNTU... okie thanks for the hlp... let me check in that channel too
[21:10] <OerHeks> tester, search launchpad for that package.
[21:11] <tester> thx
[21:11] <tester> what if I don't find the pkg in launchpad?
[21:11] <OerHeks> tester, maybe you will find a PPA, be carefull with those./
[21:11] <OerHeks> tester, then build it yourself
[21:12] <zack_> I need help with the installation of steam
[21:12] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | blackwind_123
[21:12] <tester> I know this pkg is on a known ppa cuz it's available on ubuntu distros by default
[21:13] <daftykins> zack_ was super patient
[21:13] <OerHeks> btw there is an official ppa comming for nvidiadrivers  still in testing, but nice ... http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:14] <tester> ok I found the pkg in launchpad but I don't see the "addind this ppa to your system" section
[21:14] <robbmunson> daftykins, he ran out of steam!
[21:14] <tester> (the pkg is florence)
[21:14] <OerHeks> url ?
[21:14] <tester> https://launchpad.net/florence
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !info florence
[21:15] <tester> !info florence
[21:15] <tester> is the ppa "component universe"?
[21:16] <daftykins> no they're the default repos, but the universe branch
[21:16] <daftykins> so go into your settings for software and sources, then enable universe
[21:16] <tonyaldo> amirite, not sure if this is helpful I stumbled upon this monstrosity http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html
[21:16] <OerHeks> jups, but that project is not recent, 2014-11-02, nor newer code on their page
[21:16] <tester> I'm on debian. How do I add that "universe" ppa to my system?
[21:16] <OerHeks> so use the version in oer repos and you should be fine
[21:17] <robbmunson> !sources
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> tester  better ask in #debian, i guess
[21:17] <robbmunson> Well, that trigger was in vain, I guess. :-(
[21:18] <OerHeks> errr .. debian .. https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/florence
[21:18] <tester> how did you find that?
[21:18] <OerHeks> bing
[21:18] <Technobliterator> ok, I changed my swappiness to 10, and it didn't permanently change it?
[21:18] <tgm4883> OerHeks: get out
[21:18] <blackwind_123> ubottu : http://imgur.com/d3WF2uK here is the message list which i got
[21:18] <OerHeks> hahaha no, duckduckgo
[21:18] <tgm4883> lol
[21:19]  * robbmunson dies laughing.
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> Technobliterator  you have to set in in sysctrl.conf
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> Technobliterator  you have to set in in /etc/sysctl.conf
[21:19] <wileee> Technobliterator, Did you run the command to load it after?
[21:19] <wileee> ^^^
[21:19] <tester> oh I'd been there, but I don't see any "add this ppa to your system" section either
[21:20] <OerHeks> they don't work with ppa's like ubuntu.
[21:20] <Technobliterator> huh, I found three files named sysctl.conf
[21:20] <OerHeks> and putting ubuntu packages on jessie, is not really a good idea.
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> Technobliterator  the one in /etc/
[21:20] <tester> oh they don't use ppas in debian?
[21:20] <wileee> Technobliterator, run sudo sysctl -p
[21:20] <robbmunson> OerHeks, unless you like extreme instability.
[21:21] <Technobliterator> alright, done that
[21:21] <OerHeks> robbmunson, this keyboard might be giving no trouble, but i dare not indeed:-D
[21:22] <wileee> Technobliterator, If swapping was the issue than  you have to stick within the hardwares abilities. A SSD swapping is hardly noticeable but a spinning HD can act like a freeze
[21:23] <Technobliterator> My computer would freeze up often, and I figured that with my RAM being as much as it is, I might reduce freezes/increase performances by setting swappiness to 10
[21:24] <OerHeks> err i read some articles about adding ppa http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/how-to-add-launchpad-ppas-in-debian-via.html .. new to me
[21:24] <OerHeks> but why should you, debian provides with the same latest package too
[21:24] <Technobliterator> also, ctrl+f couldn't find swappiness in sysctl.conf when searching "swappiness" ?
[21:24] <wileee> Technobliterator, Do you understand the point? I use a conky to monitor swapping and some other things. At this point you are testing is all.
[21:25] <Technobliterator> this whole swappiness business is new to me, sorry
[21:26] <wileee> Technobliterator, swappines is not in sysctl.conf you add it.
[21:26] <Technobliterator> okay, just vm.swappiness = 10?
[21:27] <wileee> Technobliterator, A good start, you just have to monitor when you swapping, don't overdrive the hardware is all. Again we are experimenting here.
[21:27] <wileee> you're*
[21:27] <Technobliterator> alright
[21:28] <Omilun> hello i need a scheduling support(start at: 2:00) download manager like flearget .
[21:28] <Technobliterator> oh, it's a read only file
[21:29] <Technobliterator> ok fixed that
[21:29] <wileee> Technobliterator, Yes you have to open it with sudo and a text reader like gedit
[21:29] <robbmunson> Technobliterator, nothing sudo cant handle.
[21:29] <Omilun> uget and downthemall dont have schedule
[21:30] <wileee> or in the terminal your choice is all
[21:30] <Technobliterator> yeah, I just did sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[21:30] <wileee> Omilun, This a ubuntu server?
[21:30] <tonyaldo> Omilun, you can create a script to use wget and then schedule it using cron
[21:30] <daftykins> Technobliterator: bear in mind it's poor practice to run GUI programs with sudo, you should use gksu or gksudo
[21:31] <wileee> doh, heh
[21:31] <Omilun> wileee: no i have a mate desktop
[21:31] <Omilun> tonyaldo: corn dosent work
[21:32] <wileee> Omilun, Cool, I would not run auto updates, that could backfire on you, on occasion there are partial updates, and that can brick you if run.
[21:33] <wileee> just be aware if you are is all, and kernels and security are a dist-upgrade
[21:33] <Omilun> wileee: idman in windows and flerget can do it
[21:33] <wileee> this is not windows
[21:34] <Omilun> wileee: Windows same as sh..t :D
[21:34] <wileee> Omilun, Use full sentences that make sense please, no acronyms
[21:34] <wileee> and no swearing
[21:34] <Technobliterator> alright, i've sudo apt-get'd gksu, thanks
[21:35] <Jackevansevo> echo -e -n "\x1b[\x36 q" # changes to steady bar
[21:36] <Technobliterator> added in vm.swappiness = 10; do I need to do anything else or should it just reset swappiness on reboot?
[21:36] <daftykins> sysctl is at boot i think ja
[21:36] <bekks> Technobliterator: Dont even need a reboot.
[21:36] <wileee> Technobliterator, Run the command I gave for it to reload  sudo sysctl -p
[21:37] <bekks> Technobliterator: sysctl -p
[21:37] <Jordan_U> Omilun: One option, from the terminal, would be to run "at 2:00 PM" which will then give you a prompt to enter commands. At that prompt you would enter something like the following: wget 'http://example.com/some&URL'
[21:37] <Technobliterator> it returned "vm.swappiness = 10"
[21:37] <Jordan_U> Omilun: You would then press ctlr+D to finish. That will setup the at daemon to run that wget command, and thus download the file from that URL, at the time specified.
[21:37] <wileee> Technobliterator, You're set, you understand the process now?
[21:37] <bekks> Technobliterator: So that value is active now.
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> Technobliterator  greta, you did it
[21:38] <Technobliterator> yeah
[21:38] <Technobliterator> :D
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> greta*
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> dang
[21:38] <wileee> good job ;)
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Omilun: Note that the single quotes around the URL are important, because without it any '&' characters in the URL will break the command (as the shell will interpret them as the backgrounding operator, and interpret everything after the '&' as a new command).
[21:38] <Technobliterator> thanks all ^.^ hopefully between this and changing graphics driver, the problem should go away
[21:38] <Omilun> Jordan_U: yes i know that... but my link need user and pass ... i wget can do it?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Omilun: Depening on how the particular page handles authentication, yes. wget has --username and --password options, and also can pass appropriate cookies on with its requests. Note that a password passed to wget using the --password option will be visible to any user on the machine through the output of "ps aux".
[21:41] <Omilun> Jordan_U: thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[21:41] <Omilun> Jordan_U: this is
[21:43] <Daemoen> anyone have a link to ubuntu's guarantees around how the kernel is handled in the os?
[21:43] <Daemoen> ie;  how support of it is committed, how it is tested/qualified, et c ?
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> Daemoen  what makes you want to know that, what brings you here
[21:45] <bekks> "how the kernel is handled in the os"?
[21:45] <tgm4883> I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't understand
[21:45] <Daemoen> MonkeyDust, I'm a Systems Arch, and I generally use CentOS, right now, we are supporting a split stack of Amzn linux (Centos/Fedora/Amazon Linux additions) and Ubuntu 14.  My managers argument is that Ubuntu "guarantees the kernel";  I don't ever recall seeing this anywhere, nor *anything* regarding their testing approach for qualification about it
[21:46] <Daemoen> meaning, what guarantees does the community have from ubuntu upstream regarding testing and change implementation, support, etc for the ubuntu kernel
[21:46] <tgm4883> Daemoen: sounds like you need to ask your managers what "guarantees the kernel" means
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> Daemoen  that's beyond the scope of this channel, not sure where you can ask, canonical.com maybe
[21:47] <bekks> Daemoen: As a Systems Arch_itect, should your learn to use a proper language, like not abbreviating a_m_a_z_o_n  and use existing version numbers, like 14.04 or 14.10 :)=
[21:47] <ikonia> there is no guarentee
[21:47] <Daemoen> bekks, oh, we want to be fussy about that?  maybe you should learn that amazon linux themselves labels their distro version as amzn linux, so its not me, its them :)
[21:48] <Daemoen> nice try being a dick about things though;  the question i asked was entirely valid, as I do not recall *ever* seeing a gaurantee
[21:48] <daftykins> "amazon linux" is what now?
[21:48] <ikonia> Daemoen: drop the attitude and language please
[21:48] <bekks> Daemoen: Yes, we want. At least regarding the Ubuntu version numbers.
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Daemoen: Are you referring to the fact that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is using a version of the kernel that is no longer supported by upstream (at least for the non hardware enablement stack, I will have to look into the details and I may be remembering wrong), and that Canonical is therefore responsible for providing security and bug fixes?
[21:49] <daftykins> they keep updating 14.04's original kernel, 3.13, just fine
[21:49] <tgm4883> Daemoen: yea, we're really not sure what you're looking for here. Guarenteeing the kernel could mean lots of things
[21:49] <Daemoen> Jordan_U, thats what im trying to clarify as well;  I do not recall any guarantees around kernel qualifications (im also asking my mgr where he heard this), but I figured someone here might have an idea of something that I wasn't aware or
[21:49] <ikonia> kernel qualifications ?
[21:49] <Daemoen> I wasnt sure if there was more information regarding kernel policies
[21:49] <ikonia> what are kernel qualifications
[21:50] <bekks> ikonia: kernel superbowl finals? :)
[21:50] <ikonia> Daemoen: what is the problem you are worried wil happen
[21:50] <ikonia> lets try to phrase it that way
[21:50] <Daemoen> ikonia, thats just it, im trying to figure that out too by coming to you guys since you know ubuntu far better than me;  i dont remember seeing any guarantees about it anywhere over the years, so wanted to see if im just imagining it
[21:50] <ikonia> Daemoen: guarantee about what though ?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Daemoen: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.2/05016.html do you think that this is what you (or your collegue) are referring to?
[21:51] <FrankFromHR> Daemoen: Like Dominos 30 minutes or less? Or like some kind of ISO standards compliance?
[21:51] <tgm4883> Daemoen: well, there are some guarentees around the hardware enablement stack, but I'm not sure that's what you are looking for
[21:52] <ikonia> I don't understand the question
[21:52] <pothibo> Trying my luck here as #nginx has no one answering. I am trying to serve mp4 files from Nginx on Ubuntu and I get error 416. Whatever I do it alwasy returns 416. Here’s the config https://gist.github.com/pothibo/5b6c9e7e032a20a5c71f
[21:52] <Daemoen> FrankFromHR, more along the lines of package interoperation testing, etc i guess;  im trying to get clarification right now.  I came here asking if anyone knows anything about kernel testing or cerfication or qualifying as ive not heard anything about any of those with ubuntu
[21:52] <ikonia> Daemoen: the whole distro is under "LTS" long term support
[21:53] <Omilun> Jordan_U: thx for ur help ... and i can aria2 too by this way
[21:53] <ikonia> so it will bring api/abi compatability for all packages in the LTS covered repos
[21:53] <bekks> Daemoen: Which "qualification" or "certification" do you talk about?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Omilun: You're welcome.
[21:53] <ikonia> new hardware is introduced via the LTS enablement stack
[21:53] <tgm4883> Daemoen: I'd recommend taking a look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack (which lists how long the kernels are supported for) and also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam (which has a bunch of information on the kernel)
[21:54] <Daemoen> tgm4883, yeah, reading through that right now
[21:55] <Daemoen> ikonia, bekks:  I don't know that my question has any specific answer, or similar;  was more about trying to find more information about ubuntu/canonical's kernel "policies" (guidelines?) ie;  kernel testing, kernel patching, etc;  im not expecting a "right answer" in this case
[21:55] <Daemoen> was just looking for more general information
[21:55] <bekks> Daemoen: So which "qualification" or "certification" do you talk about?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Daemoen: Is there a reason that you're asking about QA for the kernel specifically rather than asking about generally QA practices for all packages?
[21:56]  * tgm4883 sighs
[21:56] <sergey> http://vide.me
[21:56] <pitastrudl> any idea why the latest vlc for ubuntu is 2.1.6 but the latest one is 2.2.1
[21:57] <pitastrudl> or is there another vlc repo i could add
[21:57] <Daemoen> Jordan_U, because we have to use a newer kernel that is provided stock in some of the distros;  ubuntu happens to have newer kernels than centos, as an example;  my manager's logic is that this means ubuntu promises gaurantees around the kernel -- which i dont quite understand and am working to clarify as well
[21:57] <ac3takwas> hi
[21:57] <reisio> hi ac3
[21:57] <daftykins> pitastrudl: packages are not always bleeding edge, go hunting for a PPA - but usual warnings apply.
[21:57] <pitastrudl> yeah found one
[21:57] <pitastrudl> ty
[21:57] <ac3takwas> how do I control internet usage on my ubuntu 15?
[21:57] <ikonia> Daemoen: you can't user newer kernels other than what the distro provides
[21:57] <ikonia> you're question/issue doesn't make sense
[21:57] <tgm4883> ikonia: that's... not what he said
[21:58] <ikonia> what's he saying then ?
[21:58] <ikonia> I'm not getting it
[21:58] <bekks> Daemoen: The assumption of "guarantees" is wrong.
[21:58] <tgm4883> ikonia: ok, let me post what I think he's asking
[21:58] <Daemoen> bekks, thats what i thought as well
[21:58] <Daemoen> and why i was curious if there was anything written that i was overlooking somewhere
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Daemoen: I think maybe you should talk to your manager more and understand what they are saying, then come back here with a more specific and concrete question.
[21:58] <bekks> Daemoen: The proper way would be your manager proving his assumption.
[21:59] <tgm4883> Daemoen's manager thinks there are guarentees (managers words) regarding kernels in ubuntu, sounds like specifically from the fact there are newer kernels in ubuntu than in centos
[21:59] <tgm4883> My assumption is his manager is talking about the hardware enablement stack
[21:59] <ikonia> the kernel being newer/older than another distro has no impact on ubuntu though
[21:59] <ikonia> I think Jordan_U is right
[21:59] <tgm4883> ikonia: you're absolutely correct, and completely irrelevant
[21:59] <ikonia> this question makes no sense, go away and get it clarified
[22:00] <tgm4883> +1 for clarification
[22:01] <tgm4883> ikonia: I say irrelevant because he's not wanting to compare anything to another distro, he's wondering that since ubuntu is able to ship more/newer kernels, do they go though some sort of rigorous testing process
[22:01] <tgm4883> which isn't a terrible question to ask
[22:01] <ikonia> tgm4883: it doesn't make sense though
[22:01] <tgm4883> ikonia: what part?
[22:01] <ikonia> because ubuntu ships a newer version than centos - does it do the same level of testing
[22:01] <ikonia> what does the kernel version have to do with that ??
[22:03] <LonelyCoder_> Mozilla keeps 'greying out' on me. I'm on ubuntu 14.04 and was wondering if it's an OS issue or Mozilla issue, or possibly hardware?
[22:03] <ikonia> ubuntu qualifies support/testing for the life cycle of the LTS release
[22:03] <tgm4883> ikonia: because if centos ships kernel 3.13 for it's entirely support life (10 years) and only applies security fixes to it, it stands to reason that Ubuntu shipping 3.13, 3.15, 3.17 and 4.1 in 14.04's support life (5 years) that Ubuntu may not go through all the rigorous testing that centos does
[22:03] <ikonia> don't see any need for any more detail than that, but I'm not really sure I fully understand what's being asked
[22:03] <ikonia> tgm4883: I don't think it stands to reason that it won't - and the LTS support cycle makes it clear that the packages in the official repos are supported
[22:03] <tgm4883> ikonia: So the question is, is there some sort of testing criteria for new kernels in the HWE, or is it just some auto-push script on a cron job
[22:04] <ikonia> so logic says for an enterprise level of support - they must be tested or they would not go into an LTS support process
[22:04] <tgm4883> ikonia: I completely agree with that, which brings us back to the question, what is that testing?
[22:04] <ikonia> what does that matter to the end user
[22:05] <FrankFromHR> ikonia: CYA..
[22:05] <ikonia> thats internal to ubuntu to make the call
[22:05] <ikonia> FrankFromHR: ?
[22:05] <tgm4883> ikonia: Daemoen isn't an end user, he's a system engineer. It means a great deal to us
[22:05] <ikonia> what matters is the support
[22:05] <ikonia> eg: got a problem - use the support
[22:05] <FrankFromHR> ikonia: Cover Your Ass..
[22:05] <ikonia> FrankFromHR: ?? what ?
[22:05] <FrankFromHR> ikonia: When it breaks he can come back with 'Well Ubunutu does XYZ kind of testing and this is a rare occurence'
[22:06] <ikonia> FrankFromHR: no he can't
[22:06] <tgm4883> FrankFromHR: FUD
[22:06] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[22:06] <LonelyCoder_> ^
[22:06] <tgm4883> FrankFromHR: and not helpful to the conversation, please go watch some HR videos
[22:06] <ikonia> if you're asking these sort of questions/concern - I'd suggest you invest in support contracts from the vendor
[22:07] <Amnesia> question, is there anyone over here using vim-python-jedi?
[22:07] <Amnesia> I can't get it to work
[22:07] <tgm4883> ikonia: agreed. Since Daemoen hasn't said anything in about 10 minutes, I say we drop it unless he comes back
[22:07] <Daemoen> im on the phone and reading
[22:07] <tgm4883> heh
[22:07] <tgm4883> !kernel
[22:08] <Jackevansevo> Amnesia: you might want to ask that question in #vim or the /r/vim subreddit, there's been discussions on the topic before methinks
[22:08] <Amnesia> Jackevansevo: already gave that a shot
[22:09] <tgm4883> Daemoen: honestly, your question is a bit more specific than the general support channel can answer. I would ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[22:10] <Jordan_U> Daemoen: Please don't ask in #ubuntu-kernel either until you have a more clear question.
[22:11] <Jackevansevo> Amnesia: did you run apt-get install python-jedi? it might be a dependency issue
[22:11] <Daemoen> I suppose this is the most concrete "absolute" question that I could come up with:  "Does ubuntu have any guarantees regarding the kernel that it packages within a given release version throughout that versions lifecycle?"
[22:11] <Daemoen> not sure that there is anything more that I could ask than that for an absolute response
[22:11] <ikonia> Daemoen: ubuntu/canonical will support that package for the UBUNTU lifecyle
[22:11] <ikonia> not the products
[22:11] <ikonia> in the same way RHEL support a kernel long after it's obsolete
[22:11] <Jordan_U> Daemoen: Yes, and they are the same "guarantees" that apply to any other package in main.
[22:12] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: I'd say better, since there is a dedicated kernel team
[22:12] <Amnesia> Jackevansevo: no I didn't, since it got installed as an dependency of vim-python-jedi
[22:12] <Daemoen> ikonia, Jordan_U:  thats what i had figured, i just wasnt sure if there was something more than that that i was not aware of
[22:15] <Jackevansevo> Amnesia: as a last resort I'd just file an issue on the projects GitHub page and hopefully the mainters will be able to sort it out, best of luck finding a solution
[22:15] <Amnesia> lel, thx..
[22:15] <Jamie_1> how do you filter a usb into oracle vm?
[22:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: USB guide is likely in their documentation :)
[22:18] <tgm4883> Daemoen: the only other thing I can think of is the HWE stack, meaning they will backport newer kernels to the LTS releases
[22:21] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:21] <Umeaboy> Is there a workaround to fix the issue with the touchpad/trackpad not working in 15.04?
[22:21] <Umeaboy> x86_64
[22:22] <Umeaboy> A brand new Acer laptop.
[22:22] <Umeaboy> Not a good one thou.
[22:22] <ac3Takwas> How do I monitor and control internet usage by apps on my newly installed Ubuntu 15?
[22:22] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: do you have the latest drivers installed?
[22:23] <Umeaboy> Jackevansevo: Well, I dunno. Can I check somehow?
[22:23] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i am running into several problems with the whole vm in general
[22:23] <Umeaboy> It doesn't show up in lshw or lspci.
[22:24] <Umeaboy> lsmod shows that psmouse module is loaded, but nothing is using it.
[22:24] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: iirc open the dash and just type "drivers" and open the application from there
[22:24] <JustSighDudes> Hey guys. If I were to get a server up and running, what's the ideal way to keep it secure?
[22:24] <wileee> Umeaboy, acer has a fn-f6 to turn it off or on try that, a few times.
[22:24] <Umeaboy> I tried modprobe -r psmouse and modprobe psmouse to no avail.
[22:24] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8842826
[22:25] <ac3Takwas> guys, anyone to help me? Is there something I'm missing here?
[22:25] <daftykins> Jamie_1: check VT is turned on in your BIOS
[22:25] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: was the mouse working when you installed from the live disk?
[22:25] <Umeaboy> The screen just blinks if I press it, but the trackpad still doesn't work.
[22:25] <Umeaboy> Nope.
[22:25] <Jamie_1> daftykins: alredy did... there is no setting for it
[22:25] <Umeaboy> Only with USB mouse.
[22:25] <wileee> Umeaboy, preface with nics whom you answer, you can tab complete nics.
[22:25] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: try a google search with the model number, it might be a specific issue others have come across
[22:25] <daftykins> Jamie_1: hmm, was this the Lenovo? i read something the other day about some settings being hidden if no main password is set, dunno if that's any use - maybe look it up for your system
[22:26] <Jamie_1> daftykins: okay
[22:26] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: might also be worth checking the output of 'xinput list' on your system as well to see if the mouse is showing up
[22:26] <poopmaster> Hi, I messed something up in my Ubuntu 12.04 installation, and I am using a Ubuntu LiveCD to recover my files before reinstalling. How can I get read permission to transfer my old files?
[22:26] <poopmaster> To a usb or external hard drive, that is
[22:28] <wileee> poopmaster, By the way this is a family channel, funky nics are a little overboard, kinda offensive in a world access channel.
[22:28] <poopmaster> my mistake, how shall I change my name?
[22:28] <wileee> !nic
[22:28] <poopmaster> !nic
[22:28] <Jackevansevo> poopmaster: you've gotta run "/nick <new name> "
[22:28] <ac3Takwas> WHY IS NO ONE ANSWERING???
[22:28] <Umeaboy> Jackevansevo: http://pastebin.com/ph2wGsJm
[22:29] <wileee> !patience | ac3Takwas free volunteer help.
[22:29] <ikonia> don't type in caps please
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> ac3Takwas  caps and start with a question
[22:29] <ac3Takwas> I'm sorry I did that. I had to get your attention
[22:30] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: There should be a Synaptics TouchPad module I think
[22:30] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: but it's missing
[22:30] <Umeaboy> Yeah.
[22:30] <ac3Takwas> MonkeyDust, I already did. Twice
[22:30] <Umeaboy> Jackevansevo: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ?
[22:31] <Jamie_1> daftykins: thing had its own dam category.... im used to it being in the general bios settings
[22:31] <Umeaboy> It's already the latest version.
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> ac3Takwas  then apparentally, nobody knows the answer, that happens
[22:32] <ac3Takwas> Yeah, I guess
[22:32] <ac3Takwas> Thanks all the same
[22:32] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: All my searching on Google is leading to things that you've already tried :(
[22:32] <ac3Takwas> I guess I'll check back some other time
[22:32] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: It's a tricky onoe
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: Did the trackpad work with a different version of Ubuntu?
[22:33] <Umeaboy> Haven't tried.
[22:33] <Umeaboy> It seems to be a kernel issue.
[22:34] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: Have you ran 'sudo apt-get install synaptics'
[22:34] <Umeaboy> Even with the 4.0-version,
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: Please pastebin the output of "lsusb".
[22:34] <Umeaboy> Jackevansevo: Nothing matches that.
[22:34] <Umeaboy> Jordan_U: OK.
[22:35] <Jamie_1> the oracle-vm is still saying there are no usb devices connected
[22:35] <Umeaboy> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/ph2wGsJm
[22:36] <daftykins> Jamie_1: cool, should be working a lot better now.
[22:36] <daftykins> Jamie_1: depending on which version you're usnig (open or from them direct) you have to dome some initial setup before it works i think.
[22:37] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yea... its not crashing the current vm anymore... problem is its still saying no usb and i am using oracle-vm 5.0
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: What is the exact model of your laptop?
[22:41] <Umeaboy> Jordan_U: Acer es1-131
[22:42] <daftykins> Jamie_1: added your user to the vboxusers group?
[22:43] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: what kernal are you on (uname -a), since it seems like a known issue over at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1449252
[22:43] <Jackevansevo> ^^
[22:43] <Jackevansevo> What he said
[22:43] <Jackevansevo> or she
[22:44] <Umeaboy> Jackevansevo: 3.19.0-25-generic
[22:46] <Guest43001> peace everybody
[22:47] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: Looks like either kenral downgrade up upgrade would solve your problems, but that's beyond my knowledge scope
[22:49] <Umeaboy> I believe I have located the cause.
[22:50] <Umeaboy> There's a setting involving the Touchpad in the BIOS that I have to change.
[22:50] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: Hurrah :)
[22:50] <Umeaboy> So, changing that and coming back.
[22:55] <Umeaboy> Jackevansevo: Good news! I fixed it. )
[22:56] <Umeaboy> Now all I need is to build Coreboot for this laptop. ;)
[22:56] <Jackevansevo> Umeaboy: *internet high-five*
[22:56]  * Umeaboy highfives and hurts his hand doing it
[22:56] <Umeaboy> :)
[23:01] <Koning> Hi
[23:01] <Koning> Does anyone in here know when compiz will be replaced?
[23:01] <Koning> and with what?
[23:02] <columbobaas> Hm I don't want to lose the wobbly windows
[23:03] <krabador> wobbly windows is the past
[23:03] <Koning> it's the future
[23:03] <Koning> I need it
[23:03] <Koning> wibely wobely
[23:03] <krabador> go to kde5's  material design
[23:04] <columbobaas> Mir is for next year
[23:04] <Jackevansevo> People still use wobbly windows 0.o
[23:04] <user1234> what spy features are in ubuntu?
[23:04] <Koning> NSA backdoor 3000, it's the best one
[23:04] <Jackevansevo> mur tinfoil
[23:05] <Koning> tinfoil doesn't even block signals
[23:05] <user1234> Many people say there are backdoors in Ubuntu also.
[23:05] <Koning> you need lead
[23:05] <Koning> Ubuntu is open source, every commit is checked, good luck installing backdoors
[23:06] <w30> Torvalds, Linus   likes wobbly wsindows
[23:06] <columbobaas> Because he is a boss
[23:06] <Koning> He is THE boss
[23:07] <nick____> hi
[23:07] <Jackevansevo> I thouoght Linus disliked all the KDE compositing nonsense?
[23:07] <nick____> help installing java please
[23:07] <Koning> wobily windows isn't only in Kwin
[23:07] <Koning> sudo apt-get install openjdk
[23:07] <OerHeks> !java | nick
[23:08] <Umeaboy> Koning: sudo apt-cache search java
[23:08] <Jackevansevo> nick____: easiest method (imo) https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[23:08] <columbobaas> nick____: folow the steps -> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
[23:08] <w30> Jackevansevo, something about a Windows user looking over his shoulderwith envy. Ha...
[23:09] <Jackevansevo> I always preferred my oldschool desktop cube and fire effects :)
[23:09] <Jackevansevo> back in the day
[23:10] <daftykins> !ot
[23:10] <daftykins> support only please folks.
[23:10] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-discuss should be added
[23:10] <Koning> is it possible to get wobily windows now? (running 15.04)
[23:11] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/compiz-plugins-extra i guess
[23:11] <w30> Jackevansevo, I hear Windows has a new virtual  multi-windows, a new feature eh?
[23:11] <pauljw> thanks OerHeks , i didn't know ubuntu-discuss existed.
[23:12] <columbobaas> Koning: first install compiz-plugins
[23:12] <nick____> I ran   the sudo command still does not work :( which plugin do i add?
[23:13] <Koning> columbobaas NOICE
[23:13] <daftykins> w30: inappropriate here.
[23:14] <robbmunson> !offtopic
[23:14] <w30> I I remember right ccsm needs to load a new profile to keep Unity from using the stock compositing settings
[23:15] <tester> can I use dpkg-repack to repack packages in opt?
[23:15] <OerHeks> yes tester, you have been told that in debian too, please don't cross post.
[23:17] <Koning> Is anyone here using ubuntu with a GTX 900 nvidia card?
[23:19] <tester> OerHeks, it's not my intention to cross post. in #debian I was only told about dpkg-repack in general. I would have asked the following question there but I get "dpkg-repack: Package mixbus not installed"
[23:19] <OerHeks> Koning, which one exactly?
[23:19] <Koning> OerHeks 970
[23:20] <Koning> everything is so slow with that card
[23:20] <columbobaas> Fuck you Nvidia -Linus Torvalds-
[23:21] <OerHeks> there is an official ppa comming for nvidiadrivers  still in testing, but nice ... http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[23:21] <OerHeks> with the new 355
[23:21] <Koning> My god
[23:22] <Koning> the future is here
[23:22] <daftykins> columbobaas: inappropriate language for this channel.
[23:22] <OerHeks> but hey, only try this if you want to help testing, offcourse
[23:22] <columbobaas> daftykins: excuse me, it was just a quote
[23:22] <daftykins> i don't care.
[23:22] <columbobaas> thank you
[23:23] <OerHeks> ehmm we just DO care.. keep this channel family friendly.
[23:24] <Koning> can't we just all quote Linus?
[23:25] <Koning> OerHeks, do you run Minix?
[23:25] <daftykins> Koning: you're off topic.
[23:26] <Koning> ubuntu
[23:26] <Koning> Will I as a user notice a difference with Mir?
[23:29] <xfceKris> I have a question about a dual boot issue.
[23:29] <Koning> aks and thy shalt receive thy answer
[23:29] <xfceKris> Sweet.
[23:31] <daftykins> Koning: that's future stuff and not included as standard yet, so again off topic
[23:31] <columbobaas> Future? It is already stable
[23:31] <xfceKris> So, I dual boot Xubuntu and Windows 7, and in order to take the Windows 10 upgrade, I have found that I must unplug my Xubuntu hdd and boot windows (effectively bypassing grub).
[23:31] <Koning> daftykins: edgy
[23:31] <daftykins> !edgy
[23:31] <daftykins> :)
[23:31] <xfceKris> But when I do, windows doesn't boot. Instead it goes to grub rescue...
[23:32] <Ben64> xfceKris: then you must have grub installed on the windows drive
[23:32] <xfceKris> Grub isn't even installed on my windows drive, it's on the linux one.
[23:32] <xfceKris> I know, because I checked before I tried anything.
[23:32] <Koning> sudo grub-install /dev/sdX, where X is the drive
[23:33] <Ben64> xfceKris: well if grub rescue comes up then you are mistaken
[23:33] <Koning> it's easy to change your grub install
[23:33] <Bashing-om> xfceKris: Windows boot code on the Windows hard drive (Re-)install . And grub installed on the 'buntu hard drive - chainloading Windows from grub . Then in the firmware select which hard drive to boot .
[23:34] <humano1d> hey i have a macbook with ubuntu installed. I reinstalled mac os x to try to make it work in 64 bit mode. I then reinstalled ubuntu to get the grub screen back to choose which os i would like to be on
[23:34] <humano1d> anyone have any clue on how to get the grub screen back up in mac os x
[23:34] <xfceKris> I am not mistaken, because if I unplug the windows drive, and plug in the xfce drive, grub loads normally
[23:34] <xfceKris> Bashing-om, can you explain that in further detail.
[23:35] <Ben64> xfceKris: ok so why does the windows drive have grub rescue then
[23:35] <daftykins> humano1d: GRUB screen *in* OS X? not sure that makes sense.
[23:35] <xfceKris> I haven't got a clue.
[23:35] <Ben64> xfceKris: its because grub is on it.
[23:35] <Koning> humanold: If you have ubuntu installed, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:35] <Koning> humanold: if not, run a live cd of ubuntu and run the grub rescue
[23:35] <Koning> daftykins: off topic
[23:36] <xfceKris> I had a problem in the past with windows not booting properly due to something my 2yr old daughter did while I was afk... :(
[23:36] <Koning> is your 2 year old a computer hacker? xd
[23:36] <xfceKris> Thought I fixed it, but apparently not...
[23:36] <Bashing-om> xfceKris: Consider : GRUB == GRand Unified Bootloader . Will boot most anything .. Windows boots Windows .
[23:36] <Ben64> xfceKris: ask ##windows about fixing the windows boot
[23:37] <xfceKris> Will do Ben64
[23:37] <xfceKris> Hopefully they can help.lol
[23:37] <Ben64> they can
[23:38] <Koning> I've had a lot of negativity against linux in ##windows though
[23:38] <columbobaas> Always banned there as a Linux user
[23:38] <drkjstr> xfceKris: Have you tried runing bootrec.exe /fixmbr ?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> xfceKris: Assuming that this is a BIOS based machine, I can walk you through restoring an MS style boot sector to the MBR here.
[23:38] <w30> grub has two stages; the second stage is in /boot so i you are disconnecting drives you can loose the second half of grub
[23:39] <drkjstr> You might then have to do a grub rescue to get it back as the main loader. I've had that issue before.
[23:39] <w30> and force grub rescue
[23:39] <humano1d> daftykins what i'm saying is that I need it to choose between the two operating systems I have installed...
[23:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | xfceKris
[23:39] <Koning> I actually got a question about the grub install, if you choose to install it to /dev/sda, what files are placed where?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> humano1d: Does holding option at boot allow you to boot from Ubuntu?
[23:40] <xfceKris> Okay, you guys are going a little fast for me...information overload.
[23:41] <daftykins> humano1d: you know you can hold alt after the chime to get that?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> xfceKris: OK, I can walk you through fixing the problem from within Ubuntu, or you can have someone from ##windows walk you through fixing it from within Windows (which might require a Windows install DVD). Which would you prefer?
[23:42] <xfceKris> drkjstr, I "fixed" my old problem with bootrec.exe before. Jordan_U, I'll give bootinfo a try in a bit. Kids need baths and bed now though.
[23:42] <xfceKris> Back in a few.
[23:45] <xfceKris> Okay, so, gparted shows the wrong partition of the windows drive marked as boot. The main os partition has the boot flag, while the /boot partition has no flags at all.
[23:46] <columbobaas> Is it a good idea to compile to a newer kernel? Or is in too unstable
[23:46] <columbobaas> it*
[23:46] <Koning> it's a great idea
[23:47] <Koning> you should try compiling the linux 1.0 kernel
[23:47] <Koning> super lightweight
[23:47] <Ben64> Koning: please stop with the nonsense here
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> when i boot ubuntu it says my cpu failed
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> can you guys help
[23:47] <Koning> is your cpu broken?
[23:47] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: need the exact error
[23:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think a recent update fixed resuming problems on my laptop
[23:48] <Koning> you could try running Prime95 to check if your cpu works correctly
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> i dont wanna boot again
[23:48] <Koning> well, in order to use your computer, you'll have to boot it though
[23:48] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: without seeing exactly what is going on, its impossible to fix
[23:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: Update do do wonders . Pleased things worked out in this instance .
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> ill stick to windows for now
[23:49] <the_count> bashing-om: I am glad also, and what was that command to view how the command works?
[23:49] <Koning> man
[23:49] <Koning> man man for more info
[23:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: I have slept since then .. What command are you in reference to ?
[23:52] <Sna4x81> I'm having some trouble with mdadm.  Last night I installed two new drives and used mdadm to create a raid1 array.  I let it sync overnight, and everything seemed to go smoothly.  This morning I rebooted and got a message that my new array wasn't available, and that I could wait or press "S" to skip.
[23:52] <Sna4x81> Turns out I didn't have mdadm set up to scan all partitions.  I fixed that and rebooted again.  Same message.  I pressed "S" to skip and looked at /proc/mdstat and now the array is resyncing again!  Why is it resyncing?  It takes 11 hours to sync.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> xfceKris: The boot flag is irrelevant as far as Ubuntu is concerned.