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ahoneybunTuxMario00:00
ahoneybunon the mailing list00:00
valoriethat's fine, he can ask there00:01
valorieand enlighten his fellow listmembers00:01
valoriewe all started out new at some point00:01
ahoneybunof course00:02
ahoneybundid you go to OSCON?00:02
ahoneybunthats where you got the pin "Write the Docs"00:02
valorienope, got that in Brno00:03
valoriehaven't been to OSCON in a few years, since it went totally corporate00:03
ahoneybunBrno?00:03
valorieyes, last year's Akademy00:05
ahoneybunoh right00:07
valorieok, gotta go eat dinner and go to my daddy's00:08
ahoneybunk00:09
soee_lot of packages are marked today to be removed in Wily: 04:49
soee_akregator apturl-kde kaddressbook kde-telepathy-declarative kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kmail knotes kontact korganizer libcalendarsupport4 libeventviews404:49
soee_  libincidenceeditorsng4 libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkleo4 libkolab0 libkpeople4 libksieveui4 libktpcommoninternalsprivate8 libktploggerprivate8 libktpmodelsprivate804:49
soee_  libktpotrprivate8 libktpwidgetsprivate8 libmailcommon4 libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4 libnoteshared4 libpimcommon404:49
soee_  libtemplateparser4 python3-pykde404:49
yofelyou probably don't want to upgrade until we've sorted out kdepim-kf506:09
soee_yup, i left it without updates ;)06:11
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lordievaderGood morning.09:15
clivejoanyone remember where the latest wily iso is?10:35
clivejois this the latest? - http://files.kde.org/snapshots/kubuntu-201508071009-amd64.iso10:37
clivejohi soee_10:37
lordievaderclivejo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150815/wily-desktop-amd64.iso10:44
BluesKajHiyas all11:28
clivejohi BluesKaj11:41
BluesKajhi clivejo 11:41
clivejowhat is libboost1.58-dev?11:51
clivejoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:53
clivejo pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy : Depends: libkf5ldap-dev which is a virtual package.11:53
clivejo                                 Depends: libkf5mbox-dev which is a virtual package.11:53
clivejois there a why of setting up a basic build environment of wily in virtual box?12:02
clivejoway12:02
yofelwell, the usual way would be to install wily in virtualbox, then there start with 'apt-get build-dep <pkg>' for what you want to work for (or a similiar package if you work on something new). Then go from there..12:04
yofelor if you really just need a build environment, make a chroot with debootstrap12:04
yofelor use pbuilder-dist for a simple interface to pbuilder12:04
yofelpbuilder is pretty much just a chroot manager12:04
yofel(for throw-away chroots)12:05
clivejohi yodel12:07
yofelwho's that :P12:07
clivejoIm trying to build kdepimlibs12:07
clivejodont mind me, spelling isnt one of my skills!12:08
yofeluh, the kf5 one that harald was working on?12:08
clivejoyeah12:08
yofelokay12:08
clivejotrying to build it in pbuilder12:08
clivejoso added the frmaeworks and apps ppa12:08
clivejobut its complaining about virtual packages12:09
yofelthat's essentially apt telling you "the package you want does not exist"12:09
clivejoLOL why doesnt it say that!12:10
lordievaderclivejo: We have <tab> for spelling ;)12:10
yofelwell, it essentially means "yes, I know what you mean as some packages tell me about it, but I cannot find a valid location to get it from"12:10
yofelas we have packages that are virtual on purpose, but that's advanced stuff12:11
clivejoI cant find this libkf5ldap-dev package on ubuntu12:12
clivejobut there are rpm packages12:12
clivejois it not part of frameworks?12:12
yofeluhm... no idea, I'll dig around a bit12:14
clivejocant find it on LP12:16
yofelright, it's not packaged it seems12:17
yofelthere is kldap in applications 15.07.90, but I find no packaging for that12:17
yofeloh wait, there is a repo for kldap12:18
yofeloh, kldap failed to build12:21
yofelsymbols..12:21
yofelfixing..12:21
clivejois it just missing symbols or transition?12:23
yofelkldap is new, so we don't care12:26
clivejoso I could fix that :)12:26
yofelI already fixed it12:27
dokoclivejo, please use unversioned boost dependencies12:28
yofelkmbox is missing a dep12:28
clivejodoko: it was a held back lib in my wily install12:28
clivejoI was wondering what it was12:29
clivejoyofel: where are these?12:29
yofelthe packages? on alioth as usual12:30
clivejowhere are they being built12:30
yofelin the apps ppa12:30
yofelkmbox fixed12:31
BluesKajwhat's kmbox?12:32
clivejoBluesKaj: package needed to build the new KDEPIM packages12:33
yofellibrary for managing "mbox" email mailboxes12:33
yofelhm, kdepimlibs git is already unversioned12:33
clivejoso that kmbox creates kmbox-dev?12:34
BluesKajclivejo:  ok thanks , I avoid the PIM packages since I don't need them 12:34
yofelyes, once those 2 are built, launchpad should auto-retry kdepimlibs12:34
clivejofailed12:37
clivejohttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/214557565/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kmbox_4%3A15.07.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz12:37
clivejolooks like symbols12:37
yofelfixed agian12:37
clivejodpkg-gensymbols: warning: debian/libkf5mbox5/DEBIAN/symbols doesn't match completely debian/libkf5mbox5.symbols12:38
clivejowhere do the "stub" symbols come from?12:38
yofeldebian/libkf5mbox5/DEBIAN/symbols is generated during build with the symbols of the just built library12:40
yofeldebian/libkf5mbox5.symbols is shipped in the package with the known symbol list12:40
yofelwth is  libkf5akonadimime-dev12:46
clivejoyofel: could it be libkf5mime-dev ?12:57
clivejoyofel: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+packages?field.name_filter=kmime&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=12:57
yofelprobbly13:03
clivejowhere are you finding it?13:03
clivejoin the kdepimlibs control file13:03
clivejoPackage: libkf5akonadimime-dev13:04
clivejoso once kdepimlibs builds we'll have access to those13:04
clivejoyup, there we go13:06
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/779911613:06
clivejolibkf5akonadimime-dev-4:15.07.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa313:07
clivejoyofel: few issues with it13:09
clivejomissing files and lintian complaints13:09
yofelah nice, with the mime thing akonadi should continue building13:12
sneleguys did someone make some changes to muon in wily? configure sources is broken in muon, updater and discover13:13
sneleit triggers check for updates13:14
snelejust checked todays daily, I get the same bug13:14
yofelno clue, but as a workaround use "kdesudo software-properties-kde"13:18
yofeland if you have time, check if there's a bug for it13:18
sneleyofel: just opened bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/148521213:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485212 in muon (Ubuntu) ""Configure sources" broken in Muon (Wily)" [Undecided,New]13:27
yofelthanks!13:29
ahoneybunthat just Muon or Muon Discover?13:31
sneleahoneybun: muon, discover and updater13:33
sneleall 3 are broken13:33
yofelwell, it's the same call13:33
ahoneybunI'm in Muon Discover and the button "Configure Software Sources' does nothing for me that I can tell13:33
ahoneybunwell "Update available" keeps poping up13:34
sneleyes in discover it does nothing, in muon and updater it triggers "check for updates"13:34
ahoneybunI see Riddell has not pushed my changes to Discover as well...13:34
ahoneybunthe update tools are all weird13:37
ahoneybunand broken13:37
ahoneybunI just use termainl13:37
ahoneybun*terminal13:37
ahoneybunI confirmed the bug13:39
lordievaderWasn't Muon written in Python?13:40
lordievaderIf so, I could try my hand in bug fixing...13:41
ahoneybungo for it lordievader :)13:41
clivejoyofel: are you fixing kdepimlibs?13:42
yofelno13:43
yofelnot right now13:43
lordievaderLets first update my Wily box.13:44
yofellordievader: it's c++/QML13:45
lordievaderAh, then I'm out...13:45
clivejoyofel: can I try it ?13:58
clivejowill you push the patch for me?13:58
yofelclivejo: sure14:05
clivejoyofel: -- Installing: /«PKGBUILDDIR»/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiNotes.so14:06
clivejo-- Removed runtime path from "/«PKGBUILDDIR»/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiNotes.so.4.88.0"14:06
clivejois that not-installed deleting them or upstream?14:07
yofelclivejo: you might want to read up on RPATH in libraries16:23
yofelit's distribution policy to not have them, and no file actually gets deleted here, just some information is stripped from the lib16:24
clivejoyofel: could you check the following patches and push them as required please http://paste.ubuntu.com/12079225/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12079233/ for okteta and rebuild17:32
clivejoanyone get the full screen kickoff menu working in wily?19:49
soeeclivejo: not me, i think with standard updates it is not available yet20:17
clivejosoee: you busy?20:18
soeekinda20:18
clivejono prob20:18
clivejo * Boost (required version >= 1.49) dep needed for akonadi-search22:41
clivejoprobably libboost-dev?22:42
clivejois there any way to force pbuilder to do an apt-get update from outside the container?23:02
valorieso is it safe to update/upgrade wily today?23:07
valoriecan't tell from reading up23:07
valorieI want to upgrade this box to wily once things settle down a bit23:07
clivejosafe?23:09
clivejoits pretty stable at the moment23:10
clivejobut when new apps land, there might be problems23:10
clivejoespecially with me messing about with symbols :/23:11
valorieseems good so far23:11
valoriesoee reported that a bunch of packages were going to be uninstalled23:12
clivejovalorie: do you know anyone else who is online at the moment who can push patches?23:12
valoriebut my list seems sane23:12
valoriedid yofel go to bed?23:12
valoriehe was about earlier23:12
clivejohes busy23:12
valorie:(23:12
valorieI don't know of anyone else23:13
valoriesgclark is on vacation I think23:13
clivejohave a few patches and rebuilds I want to put through23:13
clivejosee if I can get a few more out of red23:14
valoriethank you for all your work, clivejo!23:14
clivejono, thanks the devs for putting up with me23:15
clivejoand all my silly questions23:15
valoriethat's how it works23:15
valoriewe all started with "silly" questions23:16
clivejoshould I use the note and put the url to patch beside it?23:16
valoriesend it to the list, please23:16
clivejolist?23:16
valoriekubuntu-devel23:16
clivejooh Im not on that23:16
clivejomaybe I should sort that out23:17
valorie!23:17
valorieyes indeed23:17
valorieyou need to be there23:17
valorieirc is just too ephemeral23:17
clivejoI dont want to clog up my inbox23:17
valorieI hear you23:17
valoriebut that's what filters and "delete" are for23:18
clivejoLOL plus aol is slow!23:18
valorieoh my, AOL23:18
clivejodunno why I still use it23:18
valoriebecause you did genealogy23:18
clivejowell I do, its my oldest one23:18
valoriehalf my gen folks still do23:18
clivejoif all else fails thats the address to use23:19
valoriegoogle is evil, but I use gmail23:19
valoriegood spam filtering, and huge storage23:20
clivejobut spy on you!23:20
clivejoWTH does not-binnmuable-any-depends-all mean!23:21
valoriesure, I guess they do, but they'll die of boredom23:22
clivejoLOL23:28
clivejovalorie: how do I subsribe23:31
soeevalorie: the problems was gone today23:32
valorieexcellent23:32
valoriehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel23:33
soeevalorie: can yu report  this muon bug we talked yesterday ?23:35
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/148521223:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1485212 in muon (Ubuntu) ""Configure sources" broken in Muon (Wily)" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:35
valorieI've not added my info yet there23:36
valorietrying to reply on my hubby's blog23:37
valoriegiving up on FF again, and going back to chromium23:37
soeeyup :) Chromium is much better23:38
soeedidn't try latest Qupzilla though or Vivaldi23:38
clivejosoee: busy?!?23:39
soeeclivejo: need some sleep soon :)23:39
clivejocould you push a few patches?23:39
clivejokick off few rebuilds23:40
soeeclivejo: i have no such power23:40
clivejoawwww :(23:40
soeeyou need Riddell or yofel probably23:40
soeeclivejo: but i'm impressed how much you do lately :)23:41
clivejoLOL I’m eager to test KDEPIM23:42
clivejosoee: any clues as to what intra-source-package-circular-dependency means?23:46
clivejoW: akonadi-search source: intra-source-package-circular-dependency libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchxapian523:51
clivejotoo tired to fix that, Ill just create the patch for what Ive done so far, its only a warning anyways23:53
soeeclivejo: nope, i'm not yet familar with packaging23:56
clivejono prob :)23:57
clivejoneither am I!23:57
clivejoRiddell shadeslayer : can someone please review and push this patch for akonadi-search - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12093125/23:59
soeegoogle shows this https://lintian.debian.org/tags/intra-source-package-circular-dependency.html23:59

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