| ahoneybun | TuxMario | 00:00 |
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| ahoneybun | on the mailing list | 00:00 |
| valorie | that's fine, he can ask there | 00:01 |
| valorie | and enlighten his fellow listmembers | 00:01 |
| valorie | we all started out new at some point | 00:01 |
| ahoneybun | of course | 00:02 |
| ahoneybun | did you go to OSCON? | 00:02 |
| ahoneybun | thats where you got the pin "Write the Docs" | 00:02 |
| valorie | nope, got that in Brno | 00:03 |
| valorie | haven't been to OSCON in a few years, since it went totally corporate | 00:03 |
| ahoneybun | Brno? | 00:03 |
| valorie | yes, last year's Akademy | 00:05 |
| ahoneybun | oh right | 00:07 |
| valorie | ok, gotta go eat dinner and go to my daddy's | 00:08 |
| ahoneybun | k | 00:09 |
| soee_ | lot of packages are marked today to be removed in Wily: | 04:49 |
| soee_ | akregator apturl-kde kaddressbook kde-telepathy-declarative kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kmail knotes kontact korganizer libcalendarsupport4 libeventviews4 | 04:49 |
| soee_ | libincidenceeditorsng4 libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkleo4 libkolab0 libkpeople4 libksieveui4 libktpcommoninternalsprivate8 libktploggerprivate8 libktpmodelsprivate8 | 04:49 |
| soee_ | libktpotrprivate8 libktpwidgetsprivate8 libmailcommon4 libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4 libnoteshared4 libpimcommon4 | 04:49 |
| soee_ | libtemplateparser4 python3-pykde4 | 04:49 |
| yofel | you probably don't want to upgrade until we've sorted out kdepim-kf5 | 06:09 |
| soee_ | yup, i left it without updates ;) | 06:11 |
| === 18WAAG50R is now known as TuxMario | ||
| === soee_ is now known as soee | ||
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:15 |
| clivejo | anyone remember where the latest wily iso is? | 10:35 |
| clivejo | is this the latest? - http://files.kde.org/snapshots/kubuntu-201508071009-amd64.iso | 10:37 |
| clivejo | hi soee_ | 10:37 |
| lordievader | clivejo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150815/wily-desktop-amd64.iso | 10:44 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:28 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 11:41 |
| BluesKaj | hi clivejo | 11:41 |
| clivejo | what is libboost1.58-dev? | 11:51 |
| clivejo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 11:53 |
| clivejo | pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy : Depends: libkf5ldap-dev which is a virtual package. | 11:53 |
| clivejo | Depends: libkf5mbox-dev which is a virtual package. | 11:53 |
| clivejo | is there a why of setting up a basic build environment of wily in virtual box? | 12:02 |
| clivejo | way | 12:02 |
| yofel | well, the usual way would be to install wily in virtualbox, then there start with 'apt-get build-dep <pkg>' for what you want to work for (or a similiar package if you work on something new). Then go from there.. | 12:04 |
| yofel | or if you really just need a build environment, make a chroot with debootstrap | 12:04 |
| yofel | or use pbuilder-dist for a simple interface to pbuilder | 12:04 |
| yofel | pbuilder is pretty much just a chroot manager | 12:04 |
| yofel | (for throw-away chroots) | 12:05 |
| clivejo | hi yodel | 12:07 |
| yofel | who's that :P | 12:07 |
| clivejo | Im trying to build kdepimlibs | 12:07 |
| clivejo | dont mind me, spelling isnt one of my skills! | 12:08 |
| yofel | uh, the kf5 one that harald was working on? | 12:08 |
| clivejo | yeah | 12:08 |
| yofel | okay | 12:08 |
| clivejo | trying to build it in pbuilder | 12:08 |
| clivejo | so added the frmaeworks and apps ppa | 12:08 |
| clivejo | but its complaining about virtual packages | 12:09 |
| yofel | that's essentially apt telling you "the package you want does not exist" | 12:09 |
| clivejo | LOL why doesnt it say that! | 12:10 |
| lordievader | clivejo: We have <tab> for spelling ;) | 12:10 |
| yofel | well, it essentially means "yes, I know what you mean as some packages tell me about it, but I cannot find a valid location to get it from" | 12:10 |
| yofel | as we have packages that are virtual on purpose, but that's advanced stuff | 12:11 |
| clivejo | I cant find this libkf5ldap-dev package on ubuntu | 12:12 |
| clivejo | but there are rpm packages | 12:12 |
| clivejo | is it not part of frameworks? | 12:12 |
| yofel | uhm... no idea, I'll dig around a bit | 12:14 |
| clivejo | cant find it on LP | 12:16 |
| yofel | right, it's not packaged it seems | 12:17 |
| yofel | there is kldap in applications 15.07.90, but I find no packaging for that | 12:17 |
| yofel | oh wait, there is a repo for kldap | 12:18 |
| yofel | oh, kldap failed to build | 12:21 |
| yofel | symbols.. | 12:21 |
| yofel | fixing.. | 12:21 |
| clivejo | is it just missing symbols or transition? | 12:23 |
| yofel | kldap is new, so we don't care | 12:26 |
| clivejo | so I could fix that :) | 12:26 |
| yofel | I already fixed it | 12:27 |
| doko | clivejo, please use unversioned boost dependencies | 12:28 |
| yofel | kmbox is missing a dep | 12:28 |
| clivejo | doko: it was a held back lib in my wily install | 12:28 |
| clivejo | I was wondering what it was | 12:29 |
| clivejo | yofel: where are these? | 12:29 |
| yofel | the packages? on alioth as usual | 12:30 |
| clivejo | where are they being built | 12:30 |
| yofel | in the apps ppa | 12:30 |
| yofel | kmbox fixed | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | what's kmbox? | 12:32 |
| clivejo | BluesKaj: package needed to build the new KDEPIM packages | 12:33 |
| yofel | library for managing "mbox" email mailboxes | 12:33 |
| yofel | hm, kdepimlibs git is already unversioned | 12:33 |
| clivejo | so that kmbox creates kmbox-dev? | 12:34 |
| BluesKaj | clivejo: ok thanks , I avoid the PIM packages since I don't need them | 12:34 |
| yofel | yes, once those 2 are built, launchpad should auto-retry kdepimlibs | 12:34 |
| clivejo | failed | 12:37 |
| clivejo | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/214557565/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kmbox_4%3A15.07.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz | 12:37 |
| clivejo | looks like symbols | 12:37 |
| yofel | fixed agian | 12:37 |
| clivejo | dpkg-gensymbols: warning: debian/libkf5mbox5/DEBIAN/symbols doesn't match completely debian/libkf5mbox5.symbols | 12:38 |
| clivejo | where do the "stub" symbols come from? | 12:38 |
| yofel | debian/libkf5mbox5/DEBIAN/symbols is generated during build with the symbols of the just built library | 12:40 |
| yofel | debian/libkf5mbox5.symbols is shipped in the package with the known symbol list | 12:40 |
| yofel | wth is libkf5akonadimime-dev | 12:46 |
| clivejo | yofel: could it be libkf5mime-dev ? | 12:57 |
| clivejo | yofel: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+packages?field.name_filter=kmime&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= | 12:57 |
| yofel | probbly | 13:03 |
| clivejo | where are you finding it? | 13:03 |
| clivejo | in the kdepimlibs control file | 13:03 |
| clivejo | Package: libkf5akonadimime-dev | 13:04 |
| clivejo | so once kdepimlibs builds we'll have access to those | 13:04 |
| clivejo | yup, there we go | 13:06 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/7799116 | 13:06 |
| clivejo | libkf5akonadimime-dev-4:15.07.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa3 | 13:07 |
| clivejo | yofel: few issues with it | 13:09 |
| clivejo | missing files and lintian complaints | 13:09 |
| yofel | ah nice, with the mime thing akonadi should continue building | 13:12 |
| snele | guys did someone make some changes to muon in wily? configure sources is broken in muon, updater and discover | 13:13 |
| snele | it triggers check for updates | 13:14 |
| snele | just checked todays daily, I get the same bug | 13:14 |
| yofel | no clue, but as a workaround use "kdesudo software-properties-kde" | 13:18 |
| yofel | and if you have time, check if there's a bug for it | 13:18 |
| snele | yofel: just opened bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1485212 | 13:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1485212 in muon (Ubuntu) ""Configure sources" broken in Muon (Wily)" [Undecided,New] | 13:27 |
| yofel | thanks! | 13:29 |
| ahoneybun | that just Muon or Muon Discover? | 13:31 |
| snele | ahoneybun: muon, discover and updater | 13:33 |
| snele | all 3 are broken | 13:33 |
| yofel | well, it's the same call | 13:33 |
| ahoneybun | I'm in Muon Discover and the button "Configure Software Sources' does nothing for me that I can tell | 13:33 |
| ahoneybun | well "Update available" keeps poping up | 13:34 |
| snele | yes in discover it does nothing, in muon and updater it triggers "check for updates" | 13:34 |
| ahoneybun | I see Riddell has not pushed my changes to Discover as well... | 13:34 |
| ahoneybun | the update tools are all weird | 13:37 |
| ahoneybun | and broken | 13:37 |
| ahoneybun | I just use termainl | 13:37 |
| ahoneybun | *terminal | 13:37 |
| ahoneybun | I confirmed the bug | 13:39 |
| lordievader | Wasn't Muon written in Python? | 13:40 |
| lordievader | If so, I could try my hand in bug fixing... | 13:41 |
| ahoneybun | go for it lordievader :) | 13:41 |
| clivejo | yofel: are you fixing kdepimlibs? | 13:42 |
| yofel | no | 13:43 |
| yofel | not right now | 13:43 |
| lordievader | Lets first update my Wily box. | 13:44 |
| yofel | lordievader: it's c++/QML | 13:45 |
| lordievader | Ah, then I'm out... | 13:45 |
| clivejo | yofel: can I try it ? | 13:58 |
| clivejo | will you push the patch for me? | 13:58 |
| yofel | clivejo: sure | 14:05 |
| clivejo | yofel: -- Installing: /«PKGBUILDDIR»/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiNotes.so | 14:06 |
| clivejo | -- Removed runtime path from "/«PKGBUILDDIR»/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiNotes.so.4.88.0" | 14:06 |
| clivejo | is that not-installed deleting them or upstream? | 14:07 |
| yofel | clivejo: you might want to read up on RPATH in libraries | 16:23 |
| yofel | it's distribution policy to not have them, and no file actually gets deleted here, just some information is stripped from the lib | 16:24 |
| clivejo | yofel: could you check the following patches and push them as required please http://paste.ubuntu.com/12079225/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12079233/ for okteta and rebuild | 17:32 |
| clivejo | anyone get the full screen kickoff menu working in wily? | 19:49 |
| soee | clivejo: not me, i think with standard updates it is not available yet | 20:17 |
| clivejo | soee: you busy? | 20:18 |
| soee | kinda | 20:18 |
| clivejo | no prob | 20:18 |
| clivejo | * Boost (required version >= 1.49) dep needed for akonadi-search | 22:41 |
| clivejo | probably libboost-dev? | 22:42 |
| clivejo | is there any way to force pbuilder to do an apt-get update from outside the container? | 23:02 |
| valorie | so is it safe to update/upgrade wily today? | 23:07 |
| valorie | can't tell from reading up | 23:07 |
| valorie | I want to upgrade this box to wily once things settle down a bit | 23:07 |
| clivejo | safe? | 23:09 |
| clivejo | its pretty stable at the moment | 23:10 |
| clivejo | but when new apps land, there might be problems | 23:10 |
| clivejo | especially with me messing about with symbols :/ | 23:11 |
| valorie | seems good so far | 23:11 |
| valorie | soee reported that a bunch of packages were going to be uninstalled | 23:12 |
| clivejo | valorie: do you know anyone else who is online at the moment who can push patches? | 23:12 |
| valorie | but my list seems sane | 23:12 |
| valorie | did yofel go to bed? | 23:12 |
| valorie | he was about earlier | 23:12 |
| clivejo | hes busy | 23:12 |
| valorie | :( | 23:12 |
| valorie | I don't know of anyone else | 23:13 |
| valorie | sgclark is on vacation I think | 23:13 |
| clivejo | have a few patches and rebuilds I want to put through | 23:13 |
| clivejo | see if I can get a few more out of red | 23:14 |
| valorie | thank you for all your work, clivejo! | 23:14 |
| clivejo | no, thanks the devs for putting up with me | 23:15 |
| clivejo | and all my silly questions | 23:15 |
| valorie | that's how it works | 23:15 |
| valorie | we all started with "silly" questions | 23:16 |
| clivejo | should I use the note and put the url to patch beside it? | 23:16 |
| valorie | send it to the list, please | 23:16 |
| clivejo | list? | 23:16 |
| valorie | kubuntu-devel | 23:16 |
| clivejo | oh Im not on that | 23:16 |
| clivejo | maybe I should sort that out | 23:17 |
| valorie | ! | 23:17 |
| valorie | yes indeed | 23:17 |
| valorie | you need to be there | 23:17 |
| valorie | irc is just too ephemeral | 23:17 |
| clivejo | I dont want to clog up my inbox | 23:17 |
| valorie | I hear you | 23:17 |
| valorie | but that's what filters and "delete" are for | 23:18 |
| clivejo | LOL plus aol is slow! | 23:18 |
| valorie | oh my, AOL | 23:18 |
| clivejo | dunno why I still use it | 23:18 |
| valorie | because you did genealogy | 23:18 |
| clivejo | well I do, its my oldest one | 23:18 |
| valorie | half my gen folks still do | 23:18 |
| clivejo | if all else fails thats the address to use | 23:19 |
| valorie | google is evil, but I use gmail | 23:19 |
| valorie | good spam filtering, and huge storage | 23:20 |
| clivejo | but spy on you! | 23:20 |
| clivejo | WTH does not-binnmuable-any-depends-all mean! | 23:21 |
| valorie | sure, I guess they do, but they'll die of boredom | 23:22 |
| clivejo | LOL | 23:28 |
| clivejo | valorie: how do I subsribe | 23:31 |
| soee | valorie: the problems was gone today | 23:32 |
| valorie | excellent | 23:32 |
| valorie | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel | 23:33 |
| soee | valorie: can yu report this muon bug we talked yesterday ? | 23:35 |
| valorie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1485212 | 23:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1485212 in muon (Ubuntu) ""Configure sources" broken in Muon (Wily)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:35 |
| valorie | I've not added my info yet there | 23:36 |
| valorie | trying to reply on my hubby's blog | 23:37 |
| valorie | giving up on FF again, and going back to chromium | 23:37 |
| soee | yup :) Chromium is much better | 23:38 |
| soee | didn't try latest Qupzilla though or Vivaldi | 23:38 |
| clivejo | soee: busy?!? | 23:39 |
| soee | clivejo: need some sleep soon :) | 23:39 |
| clivejo | could you push a few patches? | 23:39 |
| clivejo | kick off few rebuilds | 23:40 |
| soee | clivejo: i have no such power | 23:40 |
| clivejo | awwww :( | 23:40 |
| soee | you need Riddell or yofel probably | 23:40 |
| soee | clivejo: but i'm impressed how much you do lately :) | 23:41 |
| clivejo | LOL I’m eager to test KDEPIM | 23:42 |
| clivejo | soee: any clues as to what intra-source-package-circular-dependency means? | 23:46 |
| clivejo | W: akonadi-search source: intra-source-package-circular-dependency libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 | 23:51 |
| clivejo | too tired to fix that, Ill just create the patch for what Ive done so far, its only a warning anyways | 23:53 |
| soee | clivejo: nope, i'm not yet familar with packaging | 23:56 |
| clivejo | no prob :) | 23:57 |
| clivejo | neither am I! | 23:57 |
| clivejo | Riddell shadeslayer : can someone please review and push this patch for akonadi-search - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12093125/ | 23:59 |
| soee | google shows this https://lintian.debian.org/tags/intra-source-package-circular-dependency.html | 23:59 |
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