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GalaxyHallo07:49
GalaxyViele leute hier07:49
nocompmorning07:59
nlsthzntest from mx4 web app08:30
nlsthznseems OK enough for quick usage...08:31
nlsthznCheers08:32
nlsthznbluetooth keyboards supposed to work yet (latest stable)?  paired fine, added passcode from keyboard no problem but after that no inputs from keyboard are doing anything in any text boxes, just the onscreen keyboard?09:37
NymeriaFrhello guys11:26
NymeriaFrcan someone help me with my ubuntu app ?11:27
praxyhi my e5 hd is stuck on rotating ubuntu logo while doing a factory reset. it just keeps going, until battery is empty. looking for some help here. what I can still do: volup+power still resets the device, holding volup doesn't bring the boot menu though. On the screen with the rotating ubuntu logo I can press volume up and it'll bring a dark overlay and stop the logo from spinning. but no other options there. Ideas? I need some new angles to12:06
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mcphailpraxy: big logo or small logo?12:32
praxymcphail: like this https://lut.im/IKLt47ei/PjuP6QpE12:35
praxyoverexposed but you get the picture12:35
praxythere's also that thin line beneath it12:35
mcphailpraxy: so. if you hold power button and up volume for a very long time, then release the power button (but hold the volume) when the red LED flashes, what does the screen look like?12:36
praxyi get the bq logo12:37
praxythen it boots back into this rotating ubuntu logo thing12:37
praxyactually when it boots, the red led will flash a few times... like it's trying to boot up several times?12:37
praxymight be because the battery's not fully charged yet tho..12:37
praxyit's not really charged much but hooked in via usb12:38
mcphailpraxy: yes, charge the battery fully first. That can prevent you getting into the boot menu12:38
praxyoh ok, will try that first :D I'll let you know how it goes12:40
mcphailpraxy: I will cross my fingers :)12:41
praxymcphail: ty :) as long as it's software issue there will be a way to fix it, so I'm hopeful12:43
praxymcphail: I fear it won't work.. it's charged enough now so it can boot up in one time (1 red led flash), but it goes straight back to rotating ubuntu logo no matter if I hold the volup during boot or not12:56
praxyit seems it is set on finishing this job (factory reset itself), though it never finishes it12:57
mcphailpraxy: honestly, wait longer. For some reason there can be a difference between the charge level registered by the operating system and the metal12:58
praxyif I could cancel it or get into fastboot somehow, I would have a way out12:58
praxymcphail: ok I will12:58
mcphailpraxy: I have had difficulty booting when the OS thought I was 53% charged12:58
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ogra_praxy, note that the devices dont really charge on PC usb ports ... they draw pretty much the same amount as the PC supplies, make sure to chanrge it for 1-2h on a proper wall charger first13:22
ogra_(PC USB ports only supply 500mA max)13:23
praxyogra_: yep it's charging on a wall charger now, I'll let it charge for a few hours so I don't have any way of checking the actual charge level now. Thanks :)13:25
praxys/so I/since I/13:25
ogra_if you turn it on it should actually show a battery animation13:26
praxyon the bq e5 ? never seen that I think13:26
ogra_anyway, once you can get back into fastboot you can use ubuntu-device-flash to re-flash it worst case13:27
praxyyep13:27
ogra_http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5 has the instructions13:27
popeyyeah, you get an animation if you turn it _off_  then plug the charger in13:27
praxyis the rotating ubuntu logo part of the factory reset procedure ?13:27
ogra_yep13:27
praxyok13:27
ogra_(it is the same script as the upgrade/update script but using other options)13:28
praxyit doesn't disable/bypass the bootloader menu or anything?13:29
ogra_nope13:29
praxyok great13:29
ogra_the bootloader menu is handled by the bootloader itself ... the update or wipe happens in recovery mode ... thats one step after the bootloader13:30
praxyok makes sense13:30
praxypopey: is there a way off turning it off ? without access to the os13:32
popeypraxy: hold power button for longer than you think you need to13:33
praxyah yea.. that doesn't work during recovery mode tho in my experience :)13:35
praxyso I'll leave it spinning13:35
popeyit should always work13:36
popeyjust hold it longer :)13:37
praxywell I'm not sure what weird state my device is in now, but it only responds to volup+power13:40
praxy2 mins power held -> nothing13:40
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DexterFheya. can I imagine UT as just ubuntu with a touch optimized gui or are there differences like, permissions are completely different, there are no packages in the conventional sense..?15:55
praxymcphail ogra_ popey: I let it charge for a few hours but same thing.. I put up a small vid to demonstrate https://media.evildroid.xyz/mgoblin_media/media_entries/46/output.webm16:24
praxysorry for bad sound16:25
popeypraxy: i think your only option at this point is to call bq16:26
popeywell, least worst option :)16:26
praxyok I was wondering if you saw another way to get it in fastboot16:26
popeyI don't know, and most people aren't around at the weekend16:27
popeyso you could wait till monday when john-mcaleely wakes up (he may know) or call bq, or keep randomly pressing buttons :)16:27
praxypopey: ok np, I'll open a call with bq16:33
zzarr_Hello! Is there a way to change the text size of the text in the freenode text on ubuntu-touch?18:56
mush2what is the current eta for LTE ubuntu touch phones in the US?19:04
AHemlocksLieOr even a compatible one I can import19:04
AHemlocksLieI kind of worry American providers and retailers are going to try to fill them full of unremovable crapware like they do Android phones. I hope Ubuntu Touch can be spared that19:05
mush2me too19:07
mush2i won't buy with crapware19:07
mush2you can fix Android by installing CyanogenMod, though19:07
mush2or Replicant19:08
AHemlocksLieYeah, I put Cyanogenmod on my Android19:08
mush2so crapware isn't an issue, right?19:08
AHemlocksLieNot anymore19:08
AHemlocksLieHow is it on a Nexus 7? Is it as updated as the full Ubuntu phones? I see I could install an image on it, but it would be disappointing to be stuck right before native phones launched19:18
AHemlocksLieOh, 7 is a tablet. I thought it was a phone for some reason. How is it on a 4? I don't mind picking up a 3 year old phone if it's actually gonna work well. I don't really do a lot of high intensity things on my phone like gaming and whatnot19:22
mush2are you asking how cm is?19:24
AHemlocksLieNo, Touch19:26
AHemlocksLieShould have been a little clearer19:26
AHemlocksLieNexus 4 is the only "official" ported phone, and I was wondering if it's kept up to date with the native Touch phones and how well it runs19:27
AHemlocksLieI could pick up a Nexus 4 pretty affordably and use that until native phones launch in the US19:27
AHemlocksLieI'm having trouble finding any newer reviews, and I know a lot can change in a relatively short amount of time19:30
mush2are you suggesting that Ubuntu Touch can be installed on the Nexus phones?20:05
cwaynemardy, hey you around by any chance20:26
AHemlocksLiemush2: Yeah, Ubuntu has an image specifically for the Nexus 4. It was the original dedicated development device if I understand correctly20:44
AHemlocksLieI managed to dig up a spreadsheet on the wiki that details a lot of what works and what doesn't, but it hasn't been updated since about a year ago, so I dunno if much of anything has changed. The images don't have a date on them, but the files in the .tgz *appear* to have the date modified field set to 8/4/2015, about a week ago, which means a great deal could have changed in a year20:46
AHemlocksLieOf course, that's the latest version, but the version numbers mirror the available version of Android for the phone, so I suspect the version number is more about the current status of the phone having it installed than any changes to Touch, so I dunno what it means20:48
AHemlocksLieAnyone here put Touch on a Nexus 5? I see the wiki mentions poor battery life. How poor are we talking here?22:55
AHemlocksLieAnd how serious are any other problems? Other than the mentioned Bluetooth disfunctionality22:56
OerHeksAHemlocksLie, seems to be a lot of minor bugs, camera etc http://2buntu.com/articles/1489/installing-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-5/23:01
AHemlocksLieYeah, I saw that one, but it's over a year old23:06
AHemlocksLieI dunno if much progress has been made in the interim23:07
AHemlocksLieThe same site published an article about 5 months later in November on how to dual boot it, so I might do that23:07

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