[07:49] <Galaxy> Hallo
[07:49] <Galaxy> Viele leute hier
[07:59] <nocomp> morning
[08:30] <nlsthzn> test from mx4 web app
[08:31] <nlsthzn> seems OK enough for quick usage...
[08:32] <nlsthzn> Cheers
[09:37] <nlsthzn> bluetooth keyboards supposed to work yet (latest stable)?  paired fine, added passcode from keyboard no problem but after that no inputs from keyboard are doing anything in any text boxes, just the onscreen keyboard?
[11:26] <NymeriaFr> hello guys
[11:27] <NymeriaFr> can someone help me with my ubuntu app ?
[12:06] <praxy> hi my e5 hd is stuck on rotating ubuntu logo while doing a factory reset. it just keeps going, until battery is empty. looking for some help here. what I can still do: volup+power still resets the device, holding volup doesn't bring the boot menu though. On the screen with the rotating ubuntu logo I can press volume up and it'll bring a dark overlay and stop the logo from spinning. but no other options there. Ideas? I need some new angles to
[12:32] <mcphail> praxy: big logo or small logo?
[12:35] <praxy> mcphail: like this https://lut.im/IKLt47ei/PjuP6QpE
[12:35] <praxy> overexposed but you get the picture
[12:35] <praxy> there's also that thin line beneath it
[12:36] <mcphail> praxy: so. if you hold power button and up volume for a very long time, then release the power button (but hold the volume) when the red LED flashes, what does the screen look like?
[12:37] <praxy> i get the bq logo
[12:37] <praxy> then it boots back into this rotating ubuntu logo thing
[12:37] <praxy> actually when it boots, the red led will flash a few times... like it's trying to boot up several times?
[12:37] <praxy> might be because the battery's not fully charged yet tho..
[12:38] <praxy> it's not really charged much but hooked in via usb
[12:38] <mcphail> praxy: yes, charge the battery fully first. That can prevent you getting into the boot menu
[12:40] <praxy> oh ok, will try that first :D I'll let you know how it goes
[12:41] <mcphail> praxy: I will cross my fingers :)
[12:43] <praxy> mcphail: ty :) as long as it's software issue there will be a way to fix it, so I'm hopeful
[12:56] <praxy> mcphail: I fear it won't work.. it's charged enough now so it can boot up in one time (1 red led flash), but it goes straight back to rotating ubuntu logo no matter if I hold the volup during boot or not
[12:57] <praxy> it seems it is set on finishing this job (factory reset itself), though it never finishes it
[12:58] <mcphail> praxy: honestly, wait longer. For some reason there can be a difference between the charge level registered by the operating system and the metal
[12:58] <praxy> if I could cancel it or get into fastboot somehow, I would have a way out
[12:58] <praxy> mcphail: ok I will
[12:58] <mcphail> praxy: I have had difficulty booting when the OS thought I was 53% charged
[13:22] <ogra_> praxy, note that the devices dont really charge on PC usb ports ... they draw pretty much the same amount as the PC supplies, make sure to chanrge it for 1-2h on a proper wall charger first
[13:23] <ogra_> (PC USB ports only supply 500mA max)
[13:25] <praxy> ogra_: yep it's charging on a wall charger now, I'll let it charge for a few hours so I don't have any way of checking the actual charge level now. Thanks :)
[13:25] <praxy> s/so I/since I/
[13:26] <ogra_> if you turn it on it should actually show a battery animation
[13:26] <praxy> on the bq e5 ? never seen that I think
[13:27] <ogra_> anyway, once you can get back into fastboot you can use ubuntu-device-flash to re-flash it worst case
[13:27] <praxy> yep
[13:27] <ogra_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5 has the instructions
[13:27] <popey> yeah, you get an animation if you turn it _off_  then plug the charger in
[13:27] <praxy> is the rotating ubuntu logo part of the factory reset procedure ?
[13:27] <ogra_> yep
[13:27] <praxy> ok
[13:28] <ogra_> (it is the same script as the upgrade/update script but using other options)
[13:29] <praxy> it doesn't disable/bypass the bootloader menu or anything?
[13:29] <ogra_> nope
[13:29] <praxy> ok great
[13:30] <ogra_> the bootloader menu is handled by the bootloader itself ... the update or wipe happens in recovery mode ... thats one step after the bootloader
[13:30] <praxy> ok makes sense
[13:32] <praxy> popey: is there a way off turning it off ? without access to the os
[13:33] <popey> praxy: hold power button for longer than you think you need to
[13:35] <praxy> ah yea.. that doesn't work during recovery mode tho in my experience :)
[13:35] <praxy> so I'll leave it spinning
[13:36] <popey> it should always work
[13:37] <popey> just hold it longer :)
[13:40] <praxy> well I'm not sure what weird state my device is in now, but it only responds to volup+power
[13:40] <praxy> 2 mins power held -> nothing
[15:55] <DexterF> heya. can I imagine UT as just ubuntu with a touch optimized gui or are there differences like, permissions are completely different, there are no packages in the conventional sense..?
[16:24] <praxy> mcphail ogra_ popey: I let it charge for a few hours but same thing.. I put up a small vid to demonstrate https://media.evildroid.xyz/mgoblin_media/media_entries/46/output.webm
[16:25] <praxy> sorry for bad sound
[16:26] <popey> praxy: i think your only option at this point is to call bq
[16:26] <popey> well, least worst option :)
[16:26] <praxy> ok I was wondering if you saw another way to get it in fastboot
[16:27] <popey> I don't know, and most people aren't around at the weekend
[16:27] <popey> so you could wait till monday when john-mcaleely wakes up (he may know) or call bq, or keep randomly pressing buttons :)
[16:33] <praxy> popey: ok np, I'll open a call with bq
[18:56] <zzarr_> Hello! Is there a way to change the text size of the text in the freenode text on ubuntu-touch?
[19:04] <mush2> what is the current eta for LTE ubuntu touch phones in the US?
[19:04] <AHemlocksLie> Or even a compatible one I can import
[19:05] <AHemlocksLie> I kind of worry American providers and retailers are going to try to fill them full of unremovable crapware like they do Android phones. I hope Ubuntu Touch can be spared that
[19:07] <mush2> me too
[19:07] <mush2> i won't buy with crapware
[19:07] <mush2> you can fix Android by installing CyanogenMod, though
[19:08] <mush2> or Replicant
[19:08] <AHemlocksLie> Yeah, I put Cyanogenmod on my Android
[19:08] <mush2> so crapware isn't an issue, right?
[19:08] <AHemlocksLie> Not anymore
[19:18] <AHemlocksLie> How is it on a Nexus 7? Is it as updated as the full Ubuntu phones? I see I could install an image on it, but it would be disappointing to be stuck right before native phones launched
[19:22] <AHemlocksLie> Oh, 7 is a tablet. I thought it was a phone for some reason. How is it on a 4? I don't mind picking up a 3 year old phone if it's actually gonna work well. I don't really do a lot of high intensity things on my phone like gaming and whatnot
[19:24] <mush2> are you asking how cm is?
[19:26] <AHemlocksLie> No, Touch
[19:26] <AHemlocksLie> Should have been a little clearer
[19:27] <AHemlocksLie> Nexus 4 is the only "official" ported phone, and I was wondering if it's kept up to date with the native Touch phones and how well it runs
[19:27] <AHemlocksLie> I could pick up a Nexus 4 pretty affordably and use that until native phones launch in the US
[19:30] <AHemlocksLie> I'm having trouble finding any newer reviews, and I know a lot can change in a relatively short amount of time
[20:05] <mush2> are you suggesting that Ubuntu Touch can be installed on the Nexus phones?
[20:26] <cwayne> mardy, hey you around by any chance
[20:44] <AHemlocksLie> mush2: Yeah, Ubuntu has an image specifically for the Nexus 4. It was the original dedicated development device if I understand correctly
[20:46] <AHemlocksLie> I managed to dig up a spreadsheet on the wiki that details a lot of what works and what doesn't, but it hasn't been updated since about a year ago, so I dunno if much of anything has changed. The images don't have a date on them, but the files in the .tgz *appear* to have the date modified field set to 8/4/2015, about a week ago, which means a great deal could have changed in a year
[20:48] <AHemlocksLie> Of course, that's the latest version, but the version numbers mirror the available version of Android for the phone, so I suspect the version number is more about the current status of the phone having it installed than any changes to Touch, so I dunno what it means
[22:55] <AHemlocksLie> Anyone here put Touch on a Nexus 5? I see the wiki mentions poor battery life. How poor are we talking here?
[22:56] <AHemlocksLie> And how serious are any other problems? Other than the mentioned Bluetooth disfunctionality
[23:01] <OerHeks> AHemlocksLie, seems to be a lot of minor bugs, camera etc http://2buntu.com/articles/1489/installing-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-5/
[23:06] <AHemlocksLie> Yeah, I saw that one, but it's over a year old
[23:07] <AHemlocksLie> I dunno if much progress has been made in the interim
[23:07] <AHemlocksLie> The same site published an article about 5 months later in November on how to dual boot it, so I might do that