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Jordan_UxfceKris: We need to do two things, 1: We need to restore an MS style MBR to your Windows drive and 2: We need to configure Ubuntu to install grub's boot sector to the correct drive on updates. It's critical that you do both, or else you'll just keep ending up in this situation (and doing only #1 could prevent you from being able to boot back into Ubuntu at all).00:01
joey__how come on ubuntu when you press alt f2 and you try and log in. even if you type the right user and pass it always says wrong password?00:02
joey__did they gimp it or is it a bug?00:03
Sna4x81joey_: I do that all the time and I'm able to log in, both in Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 14.04.00:04
Jordan_Ujoey__: Do you mean ctlr+alt+f2 (which will bring you to a new text tty, ctlr+alt+F7 to get back)? alt+f2 just lets you quickly run a command, it doesn't have anything (that I can think of) to do with logging in.00:04
Sna4x81Jordan_U: I don't have a graphical front end; in that case alt+f2 goes to the second tty.00:04
joey__yeah control alt f2 i meant sorry00:05
joey__in 15.04 i can log in00:05
Jordan_Ujoey__: Logging in with a tty has never failed for me, with any version of Ubuntu. Are you sure that you're not entering an uppercase username or similar?00:06
Jordan_Ujoey__: Usernames are case sensitive, and the user created by Ubuntu's installer will be all lowercase, one word.00:07
Sna4x81Me neither.  On mine I have to press num lock though (I use the num pad to enter part of my password).00:07
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cumaxohello , I have this problem guys ...00:08
cumaxoGraphics:  Card-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller00:08
cumaxo           bus-ID: 00:02.000:08
cumaxo           Card-2: NVIDIA GK106M [GeForce GTX 765M] bus-ID: 01:00.000:08
cumaxo           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: nouveau00:08
cumaxo           Resolution: 1920x1080@59.9hz00:08
Jordan_U!pastebin | cumaxo00:08
ubottucumaxo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:08
FoffoliriumHi! I'm completly new at ubuntu. Can't change brightness on my screen. What to do?00:08
the_countBashing-om: My modem restarted and as such I never recieved any messages you may have sent.00:08
cumaxohello?00:10
OerHeksyes you have voice now00:10
cumaxoI have a problem with graphics.... i would like to solve soon .. its annoying...00:11
cumaxohttp://pastebin.com/snAADbpx00:12
joey__idk maybe its just a glitch with my keyboard or system components.00:12
joey__but thanks. i have to go busy day00:13
FoffoliriumHi! I'm completly new at ubuntu. Can't change brightness on my screen. What to do?00:13
FoffoliriumAnd my computer freezes as soon as I don't keep the charger on00:14
FoffoliriumI honestly have no idea what to do, please help00:15
cumaxohttp://pastebin.com/snAADbpx00:16
cumaxocould someone help me pls?00:16
the_countBashing-om: My modem restarted and as such I never recieved any messages you may have sent.00:16
Ben64cumaxo: thats not a problem00:16
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cumaxoNoveao : FAILED00:16
cumaxowhat happens... seems like vsync bugs all the time... :/00:17
cumaxomoving windows , youtube videos ...00:17
NicholasCageAny kind irssi user that could tell me how I remove any incoming information except replies from people ( e.g. I want to exclude logons/logoffs from showing in my irssi-screen )00:17
Ben64maybe try installing the nvidia drivers through the Additional Drivers dialog00:18
wileeeNicholasCage, what client are you using?00:18
Ben64cumaxo00:18
NicholasCagewileee: irssi00:18
wileeeno idea00:18
cumaxoyes mate?00:18
OerHeksuse the build in driver tool. sudo ubuntu-drivers list # or do it with the detected recommended driver sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall00:18
OerHeksnouveau with multi cards is not always the best choise00:19
Bashing-omthe_count: All was said, was I Have slept since then, What terminal command are you in reference to ?00:20
cumaxoI have 2 cards... so what do you recommend me ?00:20
cumaxocan u guide me step by step for a while mate?00:20
wileeeNicholasCage, https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xgBtA4HedWUJ:http://www.irssi.org/documentation/manual%2Birssi+commands&hl=en&gbv=1&site=webhp&prmd=ivns&strip=1&vwsrc=0    der manual sir00:21
uioHello. I have a computer with a sda1(ntfs) as Windows XP, sda2(ext4) as Debian, and sda3(linux-swap) and I would like to keep the windows xp, but install over Debian and swap... How might I do this ? Thanks !00:21
NicholasCagewileee: thanks man!00:22
wileeeNicholasCage, got the cache the page was loading really slow. no problem.00:22
user1234Does Ubuntu have backdoors?00:22
OerHeksuio, start the ubuntu iso in live mode, start gparted, remove them. then start the installer with the desktop icon00:23
Jordan_Uuser1234: No.00:23
OerHeksthe only backdoor is the user00:23
uioOerHeks: So I should make sda2 and sda3 into 'free space' ?00:23
OerHeksuio, yes, easy00:23
the_countBashing-om: I was wondering what the command was that you can use in front of other commands which will tell you it's purpose ex. command apt install handbrake which would tell you what the apt command did.00:24
uioOerHeks: Okay... I'm giving it a go.00:24
FoffoliriumWhy does my computer freeze when i'm not charging it?00:24
uioOerHeks: Swap has a lock by it and I cannot delete it...00:25
drkjstruio: During the installation, you can also manually set how each partition is used.00:25
w30Every system has a backdoor if you actually can get in the room where the computer is.00:25
uiodrkjstr: Yes, I got to that stage, but have not the knowledge required and was getting error messages !00:25
Bashing-omthe_count: Sorry, Forgive my ignorance. I still do not follow .00:26
the_countBashing-om: I wouldn't call it ignorance...00:27
the_countbashing-om: maybe you said this... "<Bashing-om> the_count: In this the curve of learning .. The system has the "manual" installed .. any command you want to verify/check/learn: ' man <command> ' . Works a treat ."00:27
drkjstruio: Understood. You would select the specific partition and then edit it. Make sure the debian partition is selected as ext4 and the mount point is /, and the swap should be swap.00:28
uiodrkjstr: So, I have to select where the boot program will go (from French 'programme de démarrage' I think = boot program), but only have swap, and ext400:31
Bashing-omthe_count: :) . Yeah ... The manual is installed on all debian systems. If one want to know about a command ( and many applications) consult the manual by terminal command ' man <what_ever_the_command_is ' for instace the "ls" command to list files is ' man ls ' .00:31
the_countbashing-om: That's right... also do you ever use the l command instead of ls?00:32
drkjstruio: did you delete the previous partitions? Including the XP?00:32
uiodrkjstr: No, I've not touched XP.00:33
drkjstrOkay, good.00:33
uiodrkjstr: But am in the process of removing swap and ext400:33
drkjstruio: using gparted, right?00:33
Bashing-omthe_count: "l" is a default alias for 'ls' . And no, in the instance of listing something I am generally explicit about the information I want to see .00:33
uiodrkjstr: I got rid of swap and ext4 with gparted, but the install still reads them as ext4 and swap. So I formatted ext4 to have the / mounting point... and now have pressed install... should I just leave the swap partition alone ?00:34
Jordan_Uuio: If you actually removed the partitions then they won't show up in Ubuntu's installer.00:35
the_countBashing-om: Ok, I accedentially descovered it the other day and I think it distinguishes a little better between files00:35
drkjstrThe installation should see and use it as swap, so you should be fine. Once installed, you can verify it uses it properly.00:35
Jordan_Uuio: That said, I can't think of any reason not to just re-use the same '/' and swap.00:36
drkjstruio: while using gparted, if you did not click on apply, then the changes did not take effect.00:36
uiodrkjstr: Perhaps I forgot too,,, likely in fact !00:36
uioJordan_U: I hope it works !00:37
Bashing-omthe_count: Do : ' cat .bashrc ' amd read the comments in respect to alias' and what is presently set as alias' for various invocations of 'ls' .00:37
drkjstruio: no worries.  Like Jordan_U said, just use the same / and swap partions.  You would want to format the / so Debian remnants wouldn't be there. But, you will lose all data on that partition.00:38
the_countbashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12084647/00:39
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Bashing-omthe_count: I know what it is and what it says, the info to read was for your benifit .00:41
the_countBashing-om: Ok00:41
Bashing-omthe_count: Read and then if there is something you do not understand, then we discuss . This is in reponse to how 'ls' is aloeased in various invocations of the 'ls' command.00:43
Bashing-omaloeased/aliased *00:43
the_countBashing-om: I get it now, so, I am able to set my own aliases this way?00:43
Bashing-omthe_count: Yepper. but READ, there is a comment that "YOUR" aliases are better defined in a different file .00:44
drkjstr<the_count> I usually create a .aliases file for my aliases.00:46
the_countBashing-om And I gather that is because of updates...00:46
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Bashing-omthe_count: No, updates have nothing to do with aliases, so far as I know the ability to alias complex commands has always existed in linux . (smart people in sweaters and long beards set it up that way a long time past ) .00:51
user1234Many people from other Linux distros say Ubuntu is spyware, also Richard Stallman said that.00:52
tgm4883In 15.04, how can I list my DNS servers from the command line? I'm looking though nmcli options, but I'm not seeing a way to do it?00:53
tgm4883It seems that I'm not looking at my local DNS server at all, I feel like it's going to the internet for all DNS lookups00:53
drkjstrBashing-om: he's gone.00:54
Bashing-omdrkjstr: :) ..thanks I had not noticed . Did I offend, recon ?00:54
drkjstrBashing-om: he was gone just a min before you sent that message. and the reason was lost terminal.00:57
guest24234hey guys i seem to be having an issue with the 15.04 installer00:57
guest24234i set up a duel boot using gparted and its hanging when i choose something else00:58
daftykinswhat is it?00:58
daftykinswhy would you partition prior to install?00:58
augustomoraishi00:58
augustomorais I'm having a problem with google hangouts on debian/ubuntu live/installed. I try to send a message but doesn't work. This happens on all browsers (chromium, chrome, firefox). Detail: On windows all works well. Some idea ?00:58
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guest24234because i have win 10 installed and only need it to be 100gigs00:59
guest24234the ubuntu installer only shrings to half00:59
daftykinsguest24234: you should use Windows to resize NTFS volumes.00:59
wileeeaugustomorais, The live is missing flash, is that needed?00:59
guest24234i did00:59
guest24234i just used gparted to make it ext401:00
daftykinsyeah there's no reason to make partitions PRIOR to running the installer01:00
guest24234dude your not helping01:00
daftykinsit actually is01:01
daftykinsi'm pointing out that there was no point you partitioning and formatting prior to running the installer01:02
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guest24234dude did you not hear what i just said01:03
guest24234go away01:03
tgm4883daftykins: guest24234 calm down01:03
daftykinshmm i'm perfectly calm, just giving support but apparently it's not wanted01:04
daftykinsho-hum :)01:04
tgm4883daftykins: honestly, that wasn't support01:04
guest24234^^01:04
guest24234when i already explained why i didnt use it01:05
daftykinsit's the first step - because it's an alternative to what was done already01:05
tgm4883guest24234: don't get me started on you, there is a certain tact that you were lacking01:05
augustomoraiswileee, missing flash ?01:05
tgm4883daftykins: guest24234 I'd say the first step would be to look at some logs rather than guess that the partitioner is choking on partitions already being made01:05
wileeeaugustomorais, I missed the sending messages part, my bad, thought it may have been another issue.01:06
daftykinsguest24234: no you said you resized Windows' partition with Windows, so then there was space - then you used gparted to partition and that the installer froze - are you sure you said why?01:06
tgm4883daftykins: doesn't matter01:06
JumpmanHow do I make the xchat irc icon go away on the tray?01:06
guest24234well i finally got it to install but wouldnt let me create a 4th parition for swap01:06
daftykinstgm4883: no shouldn't, not doesn't01:06
augustomoraiswilee: ok. Do you have some idea ?01:06
tgm4883Jumpman: i believe you need to remove the xchat-indicator package01:06
Jumpmancan you tell me how?01:07
daftykinsguest24234: but you said the installer froze before partitioning, so how far did you really get?01:07
tgm4883daftykins: no, doesn't. Fine, shouldn't, but if it is causing the installer to choke, someone needs to file a bug.01:07
augustomoraiswileee, I thought that be a sound issue. I disabled the soundcard but the problem still happening.01:08
wileeeaugustomorais, There an end goal here, just wondering?01:08
drkjstrguest24234: you probably would need to make the 4th partition as a logical partition.01:08
guest24234tgm4883:  its going now but i have a 4gig unusable partition01:08
daftykinsperhaps you can show a "sudo parted -l" in a pastebin guest24234 ?01:08
tgm4883+1 ^01:09
guest24234because it wont do more than 4 partitions for some reason01:09
daftykinssmells like an MBR limit of too many primary partitions01:09
tgm4883guest24234: ah01:09
tgm4883yep01:09
tgm4883lets see that parted output01:09
guest24234tgm4883: when the intaller gets finished can i use cfdisk to mark it as swap?01:09
JumpmanI removed the xchat indicator package but it's not gone01:10
daftykinsshow us the info requested please, likely you can't create another partition because you've partitioned against the rules of MBR disks01:10
drkjstrHmm... that'd be a first. I've never had that issue with MBR partitions. Just that only 3 Primaries could be created. After that they had to be logicals, if my memory serves me right.01:10
guest24234one is windows recovery then windows bootloader windows ubuntu and blank01:11
aeden__DJumpman, what are you trying to do?01:11
daftykinsguest24234: no we need to see this from "sudo parted -l"01:12
tgm4883Jumpman: you need to stop and restart xchat01:12
tgm4883Jumpman: I think right click on that icon and close. It's been a long time since I used xchat01:13
guest24234hasnt xchat been disconintued01:13
shreyashHi01:14
shreyashI'm new here!01:14
augustomoraiswileee, the most strange is that some google services doesnt work well: like translator, drive, hangouts01:14
aeden__D!welcome shreyash01:14
aeden__Dgrrr01:14
wileeeaugustomorais, May be the live state, are you testing for a possible install?01:14
augustomoraiswileee, are you asking if I using a testing distro?01:15
shreyashI would like to help contribute to Ubuntu! Can anyone give me some guidance?01:15
tgm4883shreyash: can you join #ubuntu-discuss01:16
tgm4883shreyash: this channel is for support01:16
wileeeaugustomorais, No, some users test the OS, not knowing if their hardware....etc will work, just wondering if this is anywhere and end goal of yours01:16
shreyashSure thing! Thank you so much tgm488301:16
augustomoraiswileee, no. I'm not testing the OS. I installed debian to dev. just it.01:18
augustomoraisand. I would like to use google services. hehehe01:18
wileeeaugustomorais, It was just a short question, not an answer to your problem, I mistakenly read your post is all.01:18
JumpmanI got it, it was the message indicator01:20
LimberianI'm having a delay when I turn Caps Lock on and off, anyone has any idea?01:20
augustomoraiswileee, hehee. ok01:21
DexterFhi01:21
aeden__DDexterF, !hi01:21
LimberianDoes anyone have an idea? -- I'm having a delay when I turn caps lock on and off.01:22
drkjstraugustomorais: are you messaging or tryin gto use video chat?01:22
DexterFI notices that on older machines (say 10 year old Athlon64 and a like) when shutting down via sudo halt the systems won't power off and the shutdown splash stays forever01:22
DexterFam I missing something?01:22
aeden__DLimberian, can you be more descriptive01:22
augustomoraisdrkfdr, just messaging. Its what I need.01:22
drkjstrDexterF: what was the command used?01:23
Limberianaeden__D When I'm typing, no matter where, when I press caps lock it delays.01:23
DexterFdrkjstr: just halt from a sudo'ed bash prompt01:23
drkjstraugustomorais: In gmail, it doesn't work/01:23
OerHekshalt does not shutdown, sudo shutdown -h now01:24
augustomoraisdrkfdr, In gmail doesnt work too.01:24
DexterFI suspect nouveau for a bit01:24
drkjstraugustomorais: you can't access Gmail.com?01:24
augustomoraisdrkfdr, sometimes some google services doesnt open too. but online google.01:24
DexterFOerHeks: so the OS comes to a halt but does not cut power.01:24
DexterFany telling when it is safe to power off?01:25
augustomoraisdrkfdr, I can access the gmail and read/write a email.01:25
aeden__DLimberian, are you using Caps for just uppercase or as part of a key combo?01:25
Limberianaeden__D, just for uppercase. I lost my left shift key so, it's hard to press really.01:26
augustomoraisdrkfdr, any clue ?01:26
aeden__DLimberian, so im assuming you type fast ans this annoying.. I understand01:26
Limberianaeden__D, yes it's annoying, I actually wait when I'm typing stuff.01:27
drkjstrDEADB33F you need the -P to power off. Otherwise it is probably at like run level 5...01:27
drkjstrDexterF: read last statement.01:28
aeden__DLimberian, do you have a SHIFT key on the right side of the keyboard?01:28
Limberianaeden__D, I do, are you saying it'd be better to get used to right shift?01:28
drkjstrDexterF: there is a description of the difference between -H and -p here: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ushutdow.htm01:29
aeden__DLimberian, no, but maybe you could replace it with the one that is missing on the left01:29
aeden__DLimberian, I know its dirty but maybe you damaged the the CAPS key when the left shift key went missing01:30
Limberianaeden__D, Possible. I better buy some new key caps.01:30
aeden__DLimberian, quit throwing your keyboard :p01:31
Limberianaeden__D, Best advice ever.01:32
Limberianaeden__D, thanks bro.01:32
aeden__DLimberian, sorry I couldnt be more help, keep asking and maybe someone else will have a solution01:32
aeden__DLimberian, you're welcome01:32
Limberianaeden__D, Hey um, do you know anything about bad sectors on the disk?01:34
aeden__DLimberian, theyre not good, run01:35
Limberianaeden__D, I have some on my disk and I noticed it today, but I haven't seen anything bad on the system right now. Everything works just fine, should I be worried? It's only on some 13.000mb somewhere.01:36
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aeden__DLimberian, that doesnt seem like a lot, or rather, something indicative of a disk failure. But i would back up on a regular basis just to be safe01:38
daftykinsLimberian: i do, run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and link us01:39
daftykinsassuming sda is the target disk in question01:39
aeden__DLimberian, you can try fsck if you're really paranoid01:40
Limberianaeden__D, I haven't heard of it, what it does?01:41
aeden__DLimberian, bad sectors are hardware errors kinda, fsck checks the the filesystem.. data structures.01:42
Limberianaeden__D, I guess I can do it later, I have nothing to be worried about now.01:42
Limberianaeden__D, and I do the backup on daily basis so...01:42
aeden__DLimberian, i would follow daftykins advice and at least let us look at it01:43
tgm4883lol01:44
tgm4883"I guess I can do it later, I have nothing to be worried about now."01:44
Limberiantgm4883, :(01:45
tgm4883Next question will be "Hey, Ubuntu can't see my hard disk and I have all this important data on it"01:45
Limberiantgm4883, I never lost a single byte to this day...01:45
tgm4883Limberian: and tomorrow you'll be saying "I've only lost data once"....01:47
daftykinsLimberian: 10 second command vs. living in fear :P01:48
uioHello, I have Windows on sda1, a broken linux on sda2 and swap on sda. I would like to install over sda2 and sda3, but keep sda1, but have not yet been successful for after the install process, on reboot I get an error message saying something about grub and no such file existing. Should I just repartition sda1 to take over sda2 and sda3 and then 'install beside pre-existing OS'. Seems a but unecessary, but I am usure of how to proceed.01:49
Limberiandaftykins, Okay, here you go.01:49
Limberiandaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12084988/01:49
aeden__DLimberian, your system as been up for 700 days + ?01:51
Limberianaeden__D, Yes.01:51
aeden__DLimberian, cool01:51
pi_____hello01:51
Limberianaeden__D, Anything?01:52
pi_____nope01:52
pi_____just testing stuff01:52
Bashing-omuio: Maybe, perhaps (RE-)install grub ? Show us what we are working with. pastebin 'sudo parted -l ' and we take a look at the grub (re-)install options .01:52
pi_____oh01:52
pi_____not me01:52
pi_____ah well01:52
aeden__DLimberian, looking...01:52
aeden__Ddaftykins, what do you thing of Limberian problem?01:53
uioBashing-om: I cannot even boot, though. It just stays in grub_resue and won't recognise any commands like 'halt'....01:53
daftykinsLimberian: is this a desktop?01:53
Limberiandaftykins, Yep.01:53
daftykinswell what did we get told was up? i wasn't following from the start01:53
daftykinshrmm well the entries after line 100 don't look very nice, they say that some errors have occurred just a few hours ago (hours in power on time of the disk)01:55
daftykinsthe huge problem with Seagate SMART data is they increment values in the table called 'error' even when everything is ok =|01:55
Limberiandaftykins, So, what should I do?01:56
tgm4883Limberian: how are your backups?01:56
Limberiantgm4883, All updated.01:56
Limberiantgm4883, In a good position...01:57
daftykinsLimberian: i'd definitely have a backup going on - and i would first ensure the SATA cable is seated well, then maybe try another SATA cable entirely01:57
Bashing-omuio: One can look and if needed (re-)install grub from the liveDVD(USB) .01:57
daftykinsnow let me scroll up and see if you said what was up01:57
Limberiandaftykins, I have a backup and I update it, do you really think it's because sata cable?01:58
ky-lo-gsop01:58
ky-lo-ghey01:58
daftykinsLimberian: well it's worth a go, i'm not liking some of the values in the SMART table there01:59
ky-lo-gwhy yall on ubuntu servers m801:59
daftykinsi prefer to change something that's within your control rather than to watch idly :)01:59
ky-lo-gim on backbox01:59
daftykins!ot | ky-lo-g01:59
ubottuky-lo-g: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:59
Limberiandaftykins, What would be the fastest solution, getting a new disk?01:59
ky-lo-ganyone wanna ddos?02:00
daftykinsLimberian: yep, though there's not strictly enough evidence to suggest you need to go that far just yet02:00
Limberiandaftykins, This is really hard.02:01
Limberiandaftykins, I didn't even notice the bad sectors. -- I was bored and I did a health check.02:01
daftykinsyou don't have any bad sectors according to your pastebin02:01
daftykinsthat's your only disk right?02:01
Limberiandaftykins, Yes...02:02
daftykinsyeah it says 0 for reallocated and 0 for pending sectors02:02
Limberiandaftykins, and that means?02:02
Limberiandaftykins, I suck at hardware.02:02
ky-lo-ghey02:03
daftykinswhen a bad sector is discovered, it will be pending... then if there are any spare from the free pool, it'll use that one instead and move the data. thus becoming rellocated02:03
Limberiandaftykins, Okay now I get it.02:03
ky-lo-gKIK ME @ l1zardsec to buy rat tools02:04
daftykinshaving loads in the 'pending' pool is bad, because they often lock up the OS and make the system wait for data whilst the firmware is working on it02:04
anonjameseae02:04
anonjamesbitches02:04
ky-lo-gLOL02:04
daftykinsi've got a 2TB disk upstairs i zero filled and only found 2 bad sectors to rellocate though, it's still working fine since then02:04
ky-lo-gtalks shit on irc wow what a badass02:04
daftykinsbut yeah yours shows no evidence of any.02:04
ky-lo-gim gonna joim linux lol nobody here has good hacking skills02:04
Limberiandaftykins, am I in danger? or is it safe to use the disk for now?02:05
daftykinsLimberian: well i'd change the cable if you have one spare, or just reseat it at both ends if not - then see how you go02:05
FHigginsHello. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a bit of a problem. I have an nVidia video card and I get the latest drivers straight from their website and install using their script. The problem is that when I do an "apt-get upgrade" or any other install involving graphics libraries, the package manager tries to install several graphics libraries and as a result screws up my existing drivers and I either lose any hardware acceleration 02:06
Limberiandaftykins, I don't have any spare cable right now.02:06
daftykinsoh hmm it thinks it's had 240 occasions where it's had issues 'READ DMA EXT' and 'WRITE DMA EXT' whatever that is :D02:06
FHigginsHow can I prevent the package manager from touch anything installed by the nVidia script? I figure the easiest way would be to hold the packages, but I don't know which packages to hold02:07
daftykinsFHiggins: i would not use manual downloads from their site, i'd use ones available in the PPA - also, a new ubuntu official PPA is coming for up to date proprietary drivers02:07
daftykinser, s/PPA (first one)/repos/02:08
Limberiandaftykins, I'll get a new drive and backup everything I have again. I'll keep using this disk until something bad happens. I'm using this one for 4 years so. --It's time to get a new one after all.02:10
FHigginsdaftykins: which PPA do you recommend? I recall using xorg-edgers back a year ago, but I had some problems with it, hence I switched to manual installations since that was the easiest way for me to get the lastest drivers working02:10
daftykinsFHiggins: FHiggins it's early days but try - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-drivers-ppa-is-ready-for-action02:11
daftykinsoops double nick02:11
FHigginsdaftykins: Okay, I'll give it a try, maybe I'll have better luck this time around. Should I purge any trace of my existing driver installation or can I leave that to the package manager?02:13
daftykinsmurder it with the nvidia uninstall script02:13
daftykinsi think you type nvidia then tab and it's there02:13
Bashing-omFHiggins: ^^ same same take from a differnt source : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Fresh-Driver-PPA .02:13
daftykinslikely you need to do that from a TTY with lightdm stopped02:13
FHigginsThanks, I'll go give it a try02:14
FHigginsAh, before I go, is it better to install using the package nvidia-latest or nvidia-[version number]? Or is there a different scheme now?02:15
daftykinsi don't know what's in that PPA02:17
daftykinsyou'll find the page says what to do though02:17
FHigginsThe page says nvidia-355, I guess i'll go with that to start with02:18
FHigginsThanks02:18
grafthey all, anyone have experience connecting to a juniper vpn on ubuntu?02:19
telboonare some ubuntu apt servers down?02:20
telboonW: Failed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  500  Internal Server Error02:20
dellniHello02:22
daftykinstelboon: maybe change to the main archive.ubuntu.com temporarily, might be something up with your regions one02:23
ubuntu271Hi there. I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a Macbook Pro and after removing Unity and replacing it with MATE -- logging in shows "Failed to start session" and I'd fix it but I can't figure out how to switch to console (tty1-8) via the keyboard.02:23
ubuntu271Any help is appreciated.02:23
dellniNeed help with multi boot ubuntu & windows 7 (in uefi mode)02:23
daftykins!ask02:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:24
xianur0n+02:24
telboondaftykins: how do i temporarily change the servers?02:24
JustBerryDoes anyone know what would be the best way to create a Flash game bot? Just ping my name if you have a piece of advice, suggestion, etc.02:24
daftykinstelboon: settings -> software and sources02:24
evangeliondo you have on mac the control and alt keys?02:24
telboondaftykins: great. thanks!02:24
ubuntu271evangelion: in what way? You mean, like, they are on the keyboard?02:25
evangelionyes02:25
telboonare the local servers usually updated as fast as the  main servers for the packages?02:25
ubuntu271Yeah.02:25
ubuntu271But using them like I would on a normal keyboard does produce the same effect.02:25
ubuntu271Oh you're kidding me.. I figured it out..02:26
evangelionsolved?02:26
ubuntu271I have to hit "fn" because alt is the function of 'option'..02:26
ubuntu271thats silly, but yes.02:26
aeden__Dis it possible to use w3m -dump on a website that ends with .cgi?02:26
evangelionhurrey! ;) another happy customer02:26
JustBerryDoes anyone know what would be the best way to create a Flash game bot? Even though this might not be the most relevant channel, could you point me in the right direction? It's for use on a Mac. Just ping my name if you have a piece of advice, suggestion, etc.02:27
xianur0n3+02:28
xianur0n+*6-02:28
daftykins!alis | JustBerry use this to find an appropriat channel.02:28
dellniInstalling ubuntu on windows 7 (uefi mode)02:28
daftykinsdellni: yeah you haven't actually detailed the problem yet02:28
JustBerry!alis02:28
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*02:28
dellniAs when i enable legacy mode i can install ubuntu02:29
JustBerryk daftykins02:29
wileeedellni, Have you had a chance to look at the UEFI wiki?02:30
evangelionas fas as I know .cgi get executed and you get only the rusult of the execution02:30
dellniWhen the problem is that  if i enable legacy mode i am not able to boot windows 702:30
daftykinsdellni: yeah you have to install both in the same mode.02:30
evangelionso dumping the whole website is not going to work02:30
xianur0ndellni look at you shouldn't have to enable or disable legacy mode02:32
xianur0nforget it exist02:32
xianur0njust within the UEFI settings look how to turn off secure boot02:33
wileeexianur0n, Does not answer their issue as asked.02:33
dellniAs there is no secure boot option in the bios02:33
daftykinsxianur0n: windows 7 does not use secure boot.02:35
daftykinsit is incapable of it02:35
xianur0nohh s.02:35
dellniIs there is any way to convert the uefi to mbr02:35
xianur0ni thought we were talking windoes 802:35
daftykinsdellni: of ubuntu yes, of Windows not that i know of. i'd doubt it02:36
dellniIts windows 702:36
ObrienDavedellni, uefi has NOTHING to do with MBR02:36
dellniAs i read some where about it02:36
daftykinsi took it to mean legacy02:37
dellniAs in windows i see a partition of around 100mb02:37
aeden__Devangelion, I saved the source of the webpage as html and then use w3m to dump to text. it worked02:37
aeden__Devangelion, thanks for the input02:38
ObrienDavedellni, that is the windows boot partition. do NOT delete it02:38
dellniI can switch to legacy mode to install and run ubutu02:38
dellniBut in legacy mode windows 7 does not boot02:39
xianur0ni don't quite understand, in windows 7 can't we just boot from a cd, usb etc and install ubuntu02:39
xianur0nall these UEFI and legacy mode and fast boot up was developed for windows 802:39
daftykinsxianur0n: you're thinking of WUBI which is dead and unsupported.02:40
xianur0nno, i meant, were talking about UEFI on windows 702:41
daftykinsand...?02:41
surgyhello... im running kubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19 and i want to upgrade to kernal 3.502:41
ObrienDavexianur0n, it really depends on the BIOS/UEFI architecture02:42
dellniI even try wubi when running it from windows it give error uefi not supported02:42
daftykinssurgy: 3.5 is a downgrade.02:42
daftykins19 is bigger than 502:42
xianur0ndoes windows 7 has UEFI integrated?02:43
surgydaftykins, really?02:43
daftykinsyep02:43
surgydaftykins, thats dumb02:43
daftykinsnope02:43
Ben6419 has always been bigger than 502:43
ObrienDavexianur0n, BIOS/UEFI has NOTHING to do with the OS02:43
Spec.19 is not bigger than .5 though02:44
Ben64its not a number like that02:44
Speci know that02:44
ObrienDaveSpec, it does not work that way02:44
Speci know that02:44
ObrienDave!behelpful | Spec02:44
ubottuSpec: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.02:44
Spechowever, in the decimal numbering system: it does02:44
Ben64but this isn't that02:44
Specit's why the above guy made the wrong assumption02:44
ObrienDavespec, OT02:44
xianur0ni was just saying because i installed ubuntu 14.04 on windows 8 and i had to go over all these UEFI thing and disable fast boot up.02:46
ObrienDave!uefi | xianur0n02:46
ubottuxianur0n: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:46
daftykinsyes but it's not 8 so please let it go, xianur0n02:46
ObrienDaveread and TRY to understand02:46
xianur0nall on your hands02:47
ObrienDavewe can handle it, thanks02:47
surgyim having probles with krita.... and theres no one answering in #krita can someone help?02:49
ObrienDavemaybe02:49
surgymy lines in krita with the mouse and my tablet are jagedy and broken.02:50
ObrienDavethen you're not drawing two point lines02:51
ObrienDaveyou're probably drawing multi-segment lines02:52
surgyObrienDave, well by line i mean using the pencil or pen tool02:53
surgybrush*02:53
surgyand i saved to png and openedit in pasteall to show yo uand its gone.... the jaggies are gone02:53
surgyhttp://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=9193402:53
surgyi circled them in krita02:53
ObrienDavek, look pretty smooth to me02:56
daftykinsyip, though it's no Mona Lisa02:56
daftykins;)02:56
surgyyeah.... but in krita they look jaged and every now and then white jaggedy stuff.....02:58
wileeeyou have to splash the paint for a polluck02:58
surgyi thought it might be my graphics tab acting up again so i turn it off and use my mouse and get the same effect02:58
surgy?02:58
ObrienDavesounds like a graphics card thingy02:59
surgyObrienDave, think its a driver issue?02:59
ObrienDavedoubt it. just one of those things you might have to live with03:00
surgyObrienDave, it makes the program un usable03:00
surgyObrienDave, and gimp is too slow.03:00
surgyyeah03:00
surgyand mypaint doesnt have pressure sensitivity.03:00
surgy80% of my desktop use is in drawing03:01
ObrienDavework around it03:01
surgyso if it doesnt work then i cant use linux03:01
surgyhow?03:01
ObrienDavehow would i know?03:01
surgy...03:01
daftykinsi'm still not clear what was supposed to be happening, i thought aliasing to start with03:05
FHigginsHello, I'm back. I followed the advice given here and installed nVidia drivers from the PPA (using apt-get install nvidia-355) and now I get a black screen when I boot, and I can't even get into the tty using the ctrl+alt+fn keys, the only way to do something is to boot into recovery mode. Last time I had a similar problem with the xorg-edgers PPA, installing the drivers manually solved it. Any ideas?03:08
eipi10_how the fuck do I log in?03:09
daftykins!language | eipi10_03:09
ubottueipi10_: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList03:09
ObrienDave!nomodeset | FHiggins03:09
ubottuFHiggins: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:09
eipi10_hey dafty, whats up?03:10
persa_I run top command and it says "3 users"03:11
persa_I'm the only one using this pc03:11
ObrienDaveok, you should have at least 2. you and root03:13
daftykinseipi10_: i guess it's troll o'clock03:13
eipi10_what's that mean?03:13
eipi10_I'm trying to register this name adn the email reads I need to log in somewhere...03:14
ObrienDave*face palms and walks away*03:14
bazhangeipi10_, ask in #freenode03:14
bazhangeipi10_, DONT curse in here, ever03:15
eipi10_ever?03:15
bazhangeipi10_, no cursing here, stay on topic, ask for help with that on #freenode03:15
eipi10_OK topic:   you take this shit WAY too seriously03:16
ObrienDavealways has to be one jerk in the channel *sigh*03:17
bazhanghe's gone, lets get back to support please03:17
PaulVernIs there anything risky about setting up a cron job as root:  apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade # ?03:18
PaulVernAnd is there a way to exclude Kernels / nvidia drivers, etc?03:19
FHigginsObrienDave: nomodeset got me to boot, now I get a mouse curson on a black background and only one of my displays working, I can get to tty just fine now. No window manager or anything like that, though.03:19
ObrienDavei have no clue, sorry03:20
FHigginsI'm fairly certain that if I purge any trace of nvidia* from the package manager and install the drivers using nvidia's manual install script, I'll solve the problem, but that'll get me back to my original problem of having to hold nvidia's packages to they don't screw up every time I do an apt-get upgrade03:23
squintyPaulVern,  kernels are updated via apt-get dist-upgrade so if you are using apt-get upgrade your kernels will not be upgraded03:27
wileeeFHiggins, The proprietary drivers, directly from nvidia should only be affected by kernel upgrades in general03:35
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FHigginswileee: The problem I have is that when I have the proprietary drivers installed in ubuntu, every time I do an apt-get upgrade or install anything related to graphics libraries, my opengl gets reverted to the basic version and I lose all hardware acceleration, so obviously some libraries are getting overwritten03:37
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newdimensionI have dual boot of Windows 10 and Ubuntu 14 LTS. I'm using Grub 2 and for some reason when my laptop hibernates on windows. On resume I get the grub menu instead of going back to windows. Any ideas ?03:38
wileeeFHiggins, Seems like a user be aware and know what our doing is all, I'm not going to argue but there is no actual proof of what you say in any detailed way for us to help you.03:40
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vorlkethi, in setting up ntpd via /etc/ntp.conf, what does command 'fudge xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx stratum y' do?03:42
FHigginswileee: What information do you need? Maybe I can provide it. My original question was pretty simple: What packages do I need to hold so that doing an apt-get upgrade doesn't affect my graphics libraries? I don't really need a list of packages but at least I'd like to know how to get them. I was adviced that the better way to go about it was to install the latest drivers from a PPA, but that didn't work out for me03:42
snowkidindany ubuntu / passenger / rails people on tonight?03:43
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FHigginsnewdimension: It is my understanding that that is the expected behaviour when hibernating, since you're writing the RAM contents to disk and shutting off your computer03:44
wileeeFHiggins, I can't help but I know what good data is and details are, I just noticed wide generalizing in your post.03:45
newdimensionfhiggins: It was't like with Windows 7. Not sure if I had grub or grub2 in that setup. But it definitely resumed to windows after hibernation. If I wanted to switch I'd restart03:46
FHigginsnewdimension: are you sure you weren't using the Windows boot manager? Because that's the behavior you get with it.03:47
uioHello, my usb is not alllowing me to delete it's files saying that they are read-only. And this even under root.03:47
newdimensionfhiggins: Positive, I distinctly remember Grub's purple start screen.03:48
newdimensionfhiggins: Can I take it that a possible solution is to switch to window's boot manager? Do to that I'm thinking I'd use the windows CD to restore MBR add Ubuntu to the start using EasyBCD03:50
PaulVernsquinty: Well perhaps not kernels, but something breaks my nvidia drivers when I apt-get upgrade from time to time03:51
PaulVernI usually re-install it with the binary from the nvidia website03:51
rredd4loading ubuntu live cd, when I get to the wireless screen and select no wireless, click continue, i see a spinning wheel and nothing happens.  cd turns off and spinning wheel, then screen goes black.03:54
FHigginsnewdimension: It should be possible, but I don't really know since I haven't used Windows in dualboot since 7.03:54
rredd4turned on nomodeset, no difference03:54
newdimensionFhiggins: got it, thanks for the help03:55
FHigginsnewdimension: Grub also has the resume= option, but I'm not sure how that interacts with Windows.03:56
uioEven after: shred -vfz -n 1 /dev/sdb and then sudo dd if=/home/user/Téléchargements/boot-repair-disk-32bit.iso of=/dev/sdb... I get error message : No space is available on the drive. Why cannot I use the usb ? Any thoughts ?03:57
newdimensionFhiggins: let me research that. My experience with grub has been only to install so far03:58
rredd4why do i get the spinning wheel and black screen when installing ubuntu03:59
wileeenewdimension, The hybrid fast boot/sleep is not used, I suspect the hibernate is a bad idea unless, just a guess your just using the uefi boot only.04:00
newdimensionwileee: I'm not using UEFI at all. I didn't understand what you mean about boot/sleep is not used04:01
wileeenewdimension, In a uefi install that would be pertinent is all, was not sure your install framework and other info.04:03
wileeefast boot is the technical term04:04
uioHello, how can I repaire grub ?04:06
wileeeuio, What is grub doing?04:06
uiowileee: 'GRUB loading. Welcome to GRUB! error: no such partition. Entering rescue mode... grub rescue04:08
wileeeuio, Have you removed any installs or partitions lately?04:09
uiowileee: I had just finished installing and was going for the reboot.04:09
uiowileee: Yes, but installing the OS was the lastest action.04:09
wileeeuio, You still on the live?04:10
uiowileee: No, I am unable to make live-usbs for some odd reason... using dd to make them, I get a 'no space' message....04:10
uioEven after: shred -vfz -n 1 /dev/sdb and then sudo dd if=/home/user/Téléchargements/boot-repair-disk-32bit.iso of=/dev/sdb... I get error message : No space is available on the drive. Why cannot I use the usb ? Any thoughts ?04:11
TeddyMurrayis it possible to install ubuntu from within windows? no usb stick or cd drive04:11
wileeeuio, Hmm, I'm not going to be able to follow all that, sorry.04:11
TeddyMurrayalso need to resize windows partition04:11
LambdaComplexTeddyMurray: Is wubi still a thing?04:12
wileeeTeddyMurray, Only in a virtual, wubi which did is not supported.04:12
TeddyMurrayyikes04:12
TeddyMurrayis it practical to run a VM that runs other VMs?04:12
LambdaComplexMaybe. Probably not.04:13
wileeeTeddyMurray, an install will take up the same space as a vm.04:17
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NokajiHi, I'm looking for a way to restore nautilus windows on reboot (like microsoft windows does). Apparently there used to be gnome-session-properties which did this but was removed in gnome 3.1204:47
Nokajinothing I can find in gnome-tweak-tool either04:52
martysiahello04:53
TRAINBIKEsudo rm -rf * now04:54
telboonno04:54
telboondon't do that04:54
TRAINBIKEDO IT04:54
martysiain my Xubuntu there is no network manager and it doens't pick up the wifi04:54
TRAINBIKEDO IT04:54
TRAINBIKEmartysia: sudo rm -rf * will solve it all04:54
martysiaTRAINBIKE: tring to be nasty?04:54
DalekSecTRAINBIKE: Please stop trying to cause trouble.04:54
telboonmods aren't here?04:54
TRAINBIKEmods are asleep04:55
telboonahh04:55
telboonanyway, does anyone know how to set default size and position of windows?04:55
telboonsometimes programs start at weird position04:55
martysiaok, once more - no network manager, no networks detected, problems with logging off the system04:57
martysianeeded to switch my computer off drastically using the button on the computer itself04:57
martysiado I need to reinstall my system?04:57
martysiaor is there any other way to solve that?04:58
wileeemartysia, You've coma at a slow time is all, if someone recognizes the issue they may respond.04:59
wileeecome*04:59
martysiaok04:59
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cyberalex4lifemartysia, open synaptic, search something like network, select the option to show only installed files, select all, right click -> Reinstall05:01
cyberalex4lifemartysia, some things get solved like this05:01
wileeemartysia, Not sure how busy they are but you might check #xubuntu as well05:01
cyberalex4lifesome packages just need reinstall to get fixed. this is how I used to fix intel graphics05:02
badbodhhowdy martysia . hope someone can fix your issue. i'll sacrifice 101 kittens to satan.05:04
martysialol hello badbodh :)05:05
badbodhmeanwhile state your problem in pariah too. somebody may have answers05:05
antoanola05:07
jmaderomartysia: given the extent of the issues - I would suggest starting from scratch unless you have a lot of time to burn....hopefully you partitioned your system right and separated your home partition from root partition which makes things about 100x easier05:12
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eleleleleleleI have an old 14.04 LTS kvm server that has not been updated for a long time. What is the safe way to update binaries on the distro?05:18
baizonelelelelelele: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:20
jmaderoelelelelelele: but if it's LTS 14.04 is still supported....no real need to upgrade05:21
jmaderosudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade will get you up to date05:21
elelelelelelejmadero: baizon05:27
eleleleleleleits Ubuntu 12.10 lol05:27
eleleleleleleapt-get update gives a bunch of 404s05:28
baizonelelelelelele: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453596/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-12-10-to-14-0405:28
baizonelelelelelele: http://askubuntu.com/questions/527352/how-to-upgrade-from-12-10-to-14-0405:28
elelelelelelefresh install?05:29
baizonelelelelelele: yep05:30
elelelelelelenot an option :(05:30
baizonelelelelelele: why not?05:30
JamesanaruHello, I need help please!05:33
eleleleleleletheres little room for error and time05:34
JamesanaruOh, Is there minor errors at the moment?05:35
JamesanaruAre there*05:35
baizon!ask | Jamesanaru05:36
ubottuJamesanaru: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:36
fishcookeris it possible to use wlan0 as like https://seravo.fi/2014/create-wireless-access-point-hostapd  when we also using wlan0 as client of a accesspoint05:38
Kali_YugaHi I cannot unmount my loop deviceI tried sudo unmount -f /media/name/CD... it only unmounts the cd but the loop device is  still there what can I do???05:38
JamesanaruAlright, I have installed Ubuntu and have had it for a while now. However, I discovered that my system runs alot faster on Windows. So, I decided to install windows again. But, when I try to do so, It says Cannot install on this partition because the filesystem is not NTFS.05:39
Kali_Yugahere Jamesanaru that should help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQf9YqbD8WI05:42
Kali_Yugaoh no it doesn't sorry hold on05:42
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Kali_Yugau simply have to format you hardrive to the ntfs file system05:45
JamesanaruHow do I do so?05:45
Kali_Yugaare u on ubuntu right now? use gpartet?05:46
Kali_YugaUse Gpartet over the Live CD05:47
Kali_Yugaformat to NTFS should work05:47
JamesanaruIs Gpartet an Applicaton?05:47
Kali_Yugayes should be there by default but i don't remember if it is05:48
nith1210*gparted and it's not there by default05:48
Kali_Yugaif not sudo apt-get install gpartet05:48
JamesanaruAlright, Thank you. If I have no success I will come straight back here.05:49
Kali_Yugawill work :)05:49
JamesanaruThank you Kali_Yuga05:49
Kali_Yugayour welcome05:50
Space-DuckAnyone know how to enable touch screen on a asus netbook?05:51
eltonthere is probably a fn + [button] somewhere05:52
JamesanaruHello, Im back about the Gparted thing. I need some help with how to use it. Im sorry for wasting your time, But I have never used Gparted before.05:57
mogreen'Security updates' today, 'Interactive X program to prompt users for a passphrase for ssh-add' and 'SSH client', but how do I know whether or not I really want them?05:57
Kali_Yugaok uhm what do you need to know?05:58
pesarimogreen: you want security updates.05:58
JamesanaruLike, what do I click to change the partition filesystem?05:58
JamesanaruSorry Kali_Yuga for wasting your time.05:58
Kali_Yugaright click on the partition u want to change then format to NTFS05:59
JamesanaruAll I can do is Resize/Move, Unmount, manage flags and view Partition info.06:00
Kali_YugaI think if not watch a youtube tutorial on how to use gparted06:00
mogreenpesari: k, installing now :8]06:01
Kali_Yugano u see those squares above like /dev/sdasomething... try right clicking on there06:01
Kali_Yugawait06:01
JamesanaruAh, alright.06:02
Kali_Yugaif not watch a youtube tut cuz I forgot alot on how to use it06:03
JamesanaruAlright, thank you for your help Kali_Yuga06:03
Kali_Yugatell me if it worked06:04
JamesanaruI will look at a youtube Video.06:04
Kali_Yugakk06:04
JamesanaruI will tell you if it worked in about 10 minues.06:04
JamesanaruThanks Kali_Yuga!06:05
tnkhanhany advice on should I use 14.04 or 15.04?06:07
Kali_Yugaoh yes u have to delete all partitions first that it says unallocated then reformat to Ntfs---> apply... when it's done put your windows cd and boot it up and go from there06:08
Kali_Yuga15.04 is newest but 14.04 is the stable version which is supported longer than 15.0406:10
Kali_Yugahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS06:12
bobdobbsI'm using ubuntu 12.04. I'd like to alter the desktop background. I'm using gnome. I'm not using unity.06:12
bobdobbsseems like all the instructions I've found using google only apply to unity06:13
bobdobbsI keep coming across instruction like the ones here: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/look-background.html06:14
bobdobbsthey say "right click on your desktop...". But if I right click on the desktop I do not get a context menu.06:14
wileeebobdobbs, Sounds like you want your own image there?06:15
bobdobbswileee: well, I'm sure I remember that in the past I've discovered a menu that gives me options of images to use.06:15
bobdobbsI'd like to fine that set of options06:15
Kali_Yugado u use gnome 3?06:16
wileeebobdobbs, So nothing with a right click? This the gnome shell?06:16
bobdobbsKali_Yuga: I don't know which version of gnome I'm using06:16
bobdobbswileee: nothing with a right click.06:16
Kali_YugaI am only familiar with the gnome 2 enviroment. never used gnome 3 though...06:17
bobdobbsbut yeah, I'm sure that I'm using gnome. The menus and window dressings look gnome-ish06:17
bobdobbsKali_Yuga: I don't know version I'm using. I don't recall altering the gnome version at any point after I installed ubuntu06:17
Kali_Yugado you have "activities" in the upper left corner???06:18
madman_can you use the file manager in gnome and right click an image you want as your background and get a list of options like "set image as background"06:18
bobdobbs"gnome-shell --version" reports GNOME Shell 3.4.106:18
Kali_Yugaok well never used that sorry06:18
bobdobbsKali_Yuga: no06:18
bobdobbsI mean, no - I can't see "activities"06:18
wileeebobdobbs, You can restart the shell with alt-f2-r06:19
Kali_Yuga? lol cuz that would be gnome 3 with this activities and switching and stuff like that06:19
bobdobbsmadman_: I generally dont use the gnome file manager. It messes with my multiple-monitor setup. I use dolphin for file browsing06:19
madman_ok dolphin then? lol06:20
wileeebobdobbs, Are you using dolphin?06:20
bobdobbslike, when I use the gnome file explorer, my second screen desktop background goes all white until I kill the nautilus process06:20
bobdobbsnautilus just breaks stuff06:20
Kali_Yugais that yours? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-midJhBUZjXY/T5kr97cPFHI/AAAAAAAAIvw/JVLvBE6NM-k/s1600/gnome-shell-3.4.1.png06:21
Kali_Yugathats gnome 306:21
bobdobbsmy desktop has never looked anything like that06:22
bobdobbsthe background looks familiar though. I know that image06:22
JamesanaruKali_Yuga, Do you have any good youtube videos on this?06:22
bobdobbsbut my top bar is not that color and doesn't have "activities"06:22
Kali_Yugaon gparted?06:22
bobdobbsI'll upload a screenie in a sec...06:23
Kali_Yugawell let me look06:23
JamesanaruYes.06:23
JamesanaruThank you Kali_Yuga06:23
Kali_Yugawhat filesystem are u using right now fat32, ext4 ??06:23
JamesanaruExt406:24
tnkhanhWhat does stable mean in LTS? Only longer support?06:24
OneM_IndustriesI can only read from an external floppy drive sporadically, any ideas?06:24
bobdobbsthis is what my desktop looks like: http://i.imgur.com/VkCqKek.png06:24
Kali_Yugaidk might try this one I didn't watch it but it has alot of likes so here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LApK79kc4jE06:25
madman_tnknanh same thing stable long term support06:25
Kali_Yugayes this is gnome 2 shell06:25
madman_means you have 4 years without experimental stuff messing things up06:25
wileeebobdobbs, gnome 3 fallback a pseudo gnome 206:26
bobdobbswileee: interesting06:26
wileeebobdobbs, You installed it right?06:26
bobdobbsyes06:26
Kali_Yugacan't u just not right click on the pic u want and set as desktop background ?? I remember when i used gnome 2 I never had a problem with that06:27
madman_Agreeing with Kali06:27
Kali_Yugayes this is gnome2-fallback06:27
bobdobbsI wonder why it's falling back? maybe it's cos I looked at unity a few years ago, thought "nope" and never gave it a second chance.06:27
Kali_Yugacuz gnome 2 is actually dead06:27
bobdobbsand somehow I mighta turned off unity when I installed ubuntu06:27
bobdobbsmaybe I should give unity a shot again06:28
wileeeunity is a desktop06:28
madman_Love and Hate unity..  Know how to tweak it which helps06:28
bobdobbsk06:28
wileeethe ubuntu desktop06:28
LambdaComplexI've never liked Unity06:28
Kali_YugaI don't like unity though06:28
madman_Using docky and launcher folders06:29
madman_with unity06:29
bobdobbsok, so I just ran "unity" from a terminal, just to see what would happen06:29
madman_and ticker06:30
bobdobbseverything looks the same, but I can't use my second monitor06:30
LambdaComplexWhen you say terminal do you mean terminal emulator? or tty?06:30
bobdobbsapplications running on my second monitor don't register click events06:30
Kali_Yugano u need to log out click on the little wheel and choose unity not gnome2 session fallback as far as I remember06:30
LambdaComplex^^^^^06:30
bobdobbsk06:30
bobdobbsI'll do that. back soon guys!06:30
LambdaComplexStarting a DE when you already have X running sounds like a recipe for disaster06:30
wileeebobdobbs, stop experimenting here, this is support, running that in the terminal was stupid.06:31
bobdobbsyeah.06:31
madman_bob your confusing me.  I came into the conversation late.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?06:31
bobdobbs12.0406:31
madman_Why?06:31
madman_serious question?06:31
madman_lost bob06:31
LambdaComplex Isn't that ridiculously out of date06:31
LambdaComplexOr am I thinking of some other number06:32
madman_I'm wondering if we where being trolled06:32
Kali_Yuga12.04 is still supported06:32
LambdaComplexOkay, 12.04 is the LTS version?06:32
Kali_Yugayes06:32
madman_yes06:32
madman_old lts06:32
madman_14.04 is the latest06:32
Kali_Yugai think supports ends in 2017 on 12.04 I really liked it06:33
madman_I dont know why people do not upgrade.06:33
madman_at least to the latest LTS06:33
LambdaComplexWait, did he come in here to ask how to change the desktop image in GNOME? Or was I reading wrong?06:33
madman_yes he did06:33
LambdaComplexhttps://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/look-background.html.en06:34
brainboxbefore i make some major mistakes (im sure this will be one im going to regret) If I make /var/www chmod 777 how dangerous is this... and can a remote user dump files on there or am i open just to users on the linux box06:34
LambdaComplexWow, googling "change desktop image gnome" is so difficult06:34
madman_lol brainbox06:34
madman_very06:34
Kali_Yugahe doesn't have gnome 306:34
brainboxlol06:34
madman_whats the problem brainbox06:34
LambdaComplexbrainbox: 775 would probably be better06:34
madman_yep lambda06:35
madman_read write execute user group - read execute everyone else 77506:36
madman_owner group not user group ...  typo06:37
blaaaI have just moved the kernel on 14.04 from 3.13 to 3.19. I use a serial console, it seems something has changed, as boot is hanging when I use my current line06:38
blaaaof kernel commands06:38
blaaaI use 'console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8r'06:39
bobdobbsafter I logged out X wouldn't restart. I had to do a hard reboot06:41
bobdobbsI'm back at the login screen. I don't see an option to use unity06:41
bobdobbsI see options for flavours of gnome and kde though06:41
LambdaComplexThen perhaps Unity isn't installed06:42
madman_blaaa have no idea why isntalling kernel 3.19 would do that.  Can you reboot the system and fallback to 3.13?06:42
LambdaComplexEither that or you don't have a .desktop file for it06:42
Kali_Yugathere should be a little toothed wheel... click on that06:42
madman_*installing typo again..06:42
Kali_Yugaya use kde06:42
bobdobbsI might give unity a shot. but I'm afraid of a switch to unity messing up my dual-monitor control06:43
blaaamadman_: have done that, I'll look into it again, maybe the serial client has changed as well, I do not get a grub prompt reliably anymore06:43
bobdobbsKali_Yuga: I have to have kde installed to use dolphin, cause nautilus breaks a dual-monitor setup06:43
madman_bob log back into gnome and create a new user .. log out and log in as new user using unity and test it out06:43
bobdobbsoh yeah06:44
bobdobbsI'll do that06:44
SmegzorI'm trying to switch a friends pc from Linux Mint to Ubuntu 14.04.  I did it by backing up his / partition and /home then wiping / and installing Ubuntu there with it using the original /home.  My problem is that after login the mouse moves but nothing is clickable.  I read that I could move this way.  What do I need to do to fix it?06:44
bobdobbsif I do "apt-get install unity", I get told that unity is already installed06:45
madman_bob do sudo apt-get install unity --reinstall06:46
madman_smegzor wow man i have no idea what to do there06:46
madman_hmm06:46
bobdobbsmadman_: reinstalling now06:47
Kali_Yugalike I said try to log out and find the toothed wheeel on the login should be there bobdobbs http://linuxlookup.com/files/imagecache/800x600/ubuntu_11.10_login.png06:47
SmegzorI'm sure I've done this before leaving the home partition alone but this is the first time it hasn't just worked06:47
madman_smegzor move .config to .configold06:48
madman_log out and log back in06:48
bobdobbsk, I've reinstalled unity and logged out.06:48
madman_drop to terminal and do a mv .config .configold06:48
Smegzorok  will that keep other stuff like his browser history, email etc?06:48
madman_maybe even .local to .localold  -- I'm guessing here06:48
bobdobbsKali_Yuga: my login screen doesn't look anything like that06:48
madman_well your not loosing anything just moving it out of the way ...06:49
SmegzorI expect I can copy things around if I lose anything important06:49
madman_if it works then you can go to .localold or .configold and move the .cache etc folders over06:49
madman_I'm guessing on names here..  Your in a weird world there smegzor06:49
bobdobbsit does have a dropdown menu with a choice of desktop managers. none of them are "unity"06:49
Smegzorthanks.  trying that06:49
madman_.local and .config hold settings for unity and gnome06:49
Kali_Yugawell if you use ubuntu with gnome 2 fallback or unity it should look like that?06:49
madman_moving them to a diff name wont loose anything06:49
Kali_Yugathen i can't helpyou06:49
madman_just gets them out of the way and when you log in unity or gnome will rebuild those directories06:49
madman_then you can go to the *old folders and see what you can move over06:50
wileeeSmegzor, Have you run an update/upgrade?06:50
madman_thats what i would do06:50
madman_remember mint is different than unity06:50
bobdobbsoh yeah, of course.06:50
SmegzorNot yet.  I got stuck first.06:50
madman_i'm assumeing that mint might be using .config or .local and thats messing with ubuntu/unity06:50
wileeeSmegzor, ctrl-alt-t and run one and reboot06:51
bobdobbsso, uh, now I've re-installed unity, how do I select it as deskop enviroment before I login?06:51
wileeebobdobbs, The login has a gear drop down06:51
Kali_Yugalike i said06:52
madman_log out and you will see a gear next to your login pass06:52
madman_click it06:52
bobdobbsI've logged out. I'm not seeing a gear. just a drop-down. and the dropdown doesn't offer unity06:52
badbodhit will say "ubuntu" not unity perhaps06:52
bobdobbsah, ok06:53
madman_what bad said06:53
Kali_Yugasee I was right06:53
bobdobbsok, I'm in. I see the unity-like sidebar.06:53
* madman_ slides kali a beer06:53
Kali_Yugathx06:53
madman_I'm hoping smegzor gets his mouse fixed.06:54
bobdobbscool. thanks guys. I'll play around from here and see if I can change the background and get use of my second monitor06:55
Smegzorthe mouse is fine, its just the desktop thats broken06:55
Kali_Yugaya that sounds odd to me with the mouse06:55
madman_smeg ..  where you talking about not able to click icons on the desktop06:55
madman_everything else works ?06:55
Smegzornot able to click anywhere06:55
madman_oh..06:55
wileeemadman_, tab complete nics06:55
Smegzori'm renaming .config and.local06:56
madman_thanks wileee06:56
madman_just tried it on your name06:56
wileeenp06:56
Kali_YugaIf I where you... I would wipe everything and reinstall ubuntu but this would be only my option cuz I wouldn't know how to fix it06:56
SmegzorWill I need to rename any other folders for Ubuntu to rebuild?06:57
princefhi06:58
madman_Smegzor, do you have a backup?06:59
Smegzoryes of both / and /home06:59
madman_are you familiar with building th partition tables from scratch?07:00
Smegzori've done that before.  I'm rebooting now to see how this goes07:00
madman_you could also create a new user07:00
madman_and just copy the folders over07:00
Kali_Yugawhere is Jamesanaru the guy having trouble with windows installation ? i think he got it fixed then right?07:01
madman_if that doesnt work time to just nuke it and save some time07:01
bobdobbsI'm stuck again. The second monitor turns on and has a background but to panels. I can move the mouse into it, but a right click doesn't do anything on either monitor. If I open the 'Displays' settings window, the second display isn't detected07:02
bobdobbsI've got vague memories of encountering this issue when I initially looked at unity when it first came out.07:03
madman_does either monitor flicker bob?07:03
madman_while you move the mouse?07:03
bobdobbsnot that I can tell07:03
bobdobbsso I guess that that's a 'no'07:04
madman_amd / nvidia / or intel vid card bob?07:04
bobdobbsnvidia07:04
bobdobbsthere's a way to check the chipset, isn't there?07:04
madman_yes hangon07:04
bobdobbsI'll find that out...07:04
madman_well this will be fun07:05
madman_open a terminal07:05
bobdobbsyes, it's nvidia07:06
madman_lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'07:06
madman_copy and paste that07:06
bobdobbsyup. nvidia07:06
Smegzorsame problem.  nothing clickable.  I'm going to nuke / and /home.  install fresh and copy stuff from the backup.07:07
madman_i'm all amd and intel here so ..   bowin out of this one07:08
madman_if its anything like my wacked out HP intel/amd load of fun hell - i would purge your nvidia drivers..   dual monitor support is non existent while running amd even in 15.04 for me07:09
madman_nvidia may be the same07:09
bobdobbsthat's too scary for me07:09
madman_sucks07:09
madman_intel works just fine07:09
bobdobbsI think I'm gonna log out and go back to using gnome07:09
Smegzoroh I actually installed 15.04.  Since I'm doing a clean install should I use 14.04 instead?07:09
madman_bob do you game07:09
bobdobbsIf I mess something up then I won't be able to work tonight. or maybe this whole weekend07:09
madman_do you use the nvidia card?07:09
bobdobbsmadman_: yeah.07:10
madman_what kind of processor do you have..07:10
bobdobbswell, pretty sure anyway.07:10
bobdobbsmadman_: video processor?07:10
bobdobbsor main processer?07:10
madman_main processor cpu07:10
bobdobbsI know it's an intel i707:10
bobdobbsbut don't know more then that07:10
madman_and your running ubuntu 12.04?07:11
bobdobbs(I got an i7 cos I sometimes use virtualsed computers)07:11
bobdobbsyeah07:11
bobdobbsis that a bad combo?07:11
madman_old software new hardware07:11
madman_strange not bad07:11
bobdobbsyeah07:11
bobdobbsoh, I know why I chose 12.0407:11
madman_read my mind?  Why?07:12
bobdobbsvideo issues with nvidia and dual screens when I tried to install 14.0407:12
bobdobbsalso, 12.04 is lts07:12
bobdobbsI like having the horsepower. but I'm happy to waste some of it powering slightly older, more reliable software07:12
madman_fair enough..  ubuntu's come along way..  lately u can jump from 14.04 to 14.10 to 15.04 with minimal problems..  clean install is the best .. but an i7 I would at least try 15.0407:13
bobdobbshmmm07:13
madman_maybe up it to 15.10 when its stable for 16.04 LTS later07:13
bobdobbsok. I'll consider that the next time I have a week to spare on an update.07:13
bobdobbsI didn't mean that to sound faceatious07:13
madman_lol07:14
madman_I know what you mean07:14
bobdobbsbut yeah. It takes me at least a weekend to do an update, and then the rest of the week to iron out the show-stopping wrinkles07:14
bobdobbsthis is my work computer as well as my personal. I use it for web programming.07:14
madman_funny you mentioned that .. my main laptop *nebula to my right is compileing an android rom right now07:15
bobdobbsso I need it for image editing as well as programming. I need it to "just work" once it's set up. And I need to have dual screens.07:15
bobdobbsAnd alas, with 14.04 I could never get it useable.07:15
madman_I have 5 computers and they are all synced aka clones of eachother.  one can go down and I loose nothing.  flash clone back over and i'm back up07:16
bobdobbsSo I just shook my fist at the kids on my lawn and fell back to 12.0407:16
madman_hah bob07:16
bobdobbsthat sounds pretty robust07:16
konan ok07:16
madman_time is money07:17
bobdobbsk, I'm gonna log out on my desktop and go back to gnome... and hope that dual monitors is still working07:17
* bobdobbs crosses fingers07:17
madman_ubuntu should have saved that *hit to home folder07:17
madman_good luck bob07:18
bobdobbsoh cool. dual mons. still working!07:18
bobdobbs\o/07:18
madman_sweet07:18
bobdobbsmadman_: I'm on a lappy now. recenty acquisition. i7 with 16Gb RAM. I installed 14.04 on it07:19
madman_waiting for my poor *nebula to have a meltdown 4 hours compiling CM 12.107:19
bobdobbsI installed ubuntu on it with a tear in my eye, cos I knew it would make an excellent windows gaming machine07:19
* bobdobbs sobs quietly07:19
madman_bob why man..  15.04...07:19
bobdobbsI didn't know about 15.04!07:20
madman_your making me cringe07:20
bobdobbsyou shoulda told me about 15.04 a week ago!07:20
* bobdobbs shakes fist at madman_ 07:20
bobdobbsI wonder... is it possible to update straight from 14.04 to 15.04?07:20
madman_love it .. guess what i'm typing on??  Probably 1 of a handfull doing this?07:20
madman_acer c710 1.1ghz chromebook07:21
madman_modified07:21
bobdobbshm07:21
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tnkhanhI just got 15.0407:21
madman_4 gigs of ram 500 gig hard drive.. ubuntu 15.0407:21
madman_and its fast as hell07:21
Smegzori'm typing on my IBM Model M :p07:21
tnkhanhfantastic desktop color07:21
Ben64please keep the non-support chat out of this channel07:21
madman_lmao Smegzor07:21
Ben64#ubuntu-offtopic is available to use07:21
madman_ok Ben6407:21
tnkhanh!ubuntu07:21
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com07:21
Smegzordownloading 14.04 mate.  I hope that was the right choice.07:21
tnkhanh!food07:22
tnkhanh!kde07:22
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.07:22
madman_LTS Smegzor good choice.07:22
bobdobbsk, I'm gonna jump into #ubuntu-offtopic07:22
tnkhanh!linux07:22
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux07:22
madman_same bobdobbs07:22
tnkhanhwhat do you call the color of ubuntu 14.04 desktop07:23
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m1zkovhello07:24
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blaaais it somehow possible to use a tpm for measured booting an UEFI server? I believe trusted-grub is only for BIOS07:25
m1zkovWhere can I obtain a wordlist for aircrack-ng that isn't too basic for functionality?07:26
m1zkovwithout having to pay07:27
m1zkov?07:29
m1zkovGreetings, mramm07:29
ac3takwasHello, I'm having an issue with my terminal.07:36
ac3takwasWhen I open up the terminal, it automatically resizes itself; becoming really small; showing only one line of the terminal07:37
ac3takwasI've tried tweaking the settings, but no change. Has anyone experienced this?07:38
[GUN]MadMantry manualy clicking and draging bottom right corner down and to the right to expand it07:38
[GUN]MadManonce you get it to a decent size and it stays .. close it and reopen terminal and see if it reopons correctly07:39
ac3takwas[GUN]MadMan, that doesn't help I'm afraid07:40
[GUN]MadManwhat version of ubuntu and are you using unity?    are you using regular terminal, terminator, guake???07:40
ac3takwasEven when I try resizing it, it goes back to a small size immediately07:40
ac3takwas1507:41
ac3takwasgnome-terminal07:41
[GUN]MadManI have te same problem to ..  keep resizeing it till it sticks07:41
ac3takwasDo i have to do this everytime?07:41
[GUN]MadManno07:41
ac3takwasIs this an issue with Ubuntu version 15?07:41
[GUN]MadManits a weird glitch07:41
[GUN]MadManis it just when you open a new terminal07:41
[GUN]MadManor a link that opens a terminal window07:42
ac3takwasSometimes it works fine for me too. But it's really annoying when it does this.07:42
[GUN]MadManyep i know what you mean07:42
[GUN]MadManis it just a regular terminal?07:42
ac3takwasWhen I open a new terminal either via Dash or Ctrl+Alt+T07:42
[GUN]MadMantry installing terminator07:42
ac3takwashow do you mean?07:43
[GUN]MadMansudo apt-get install terminator07:43
ac3takwasOkay, I'll try that07:43
ac3takwasTime to finally ditch gnome-terminal. I've always used this07:43
ac3takwasHow about Xterm?07:43
[GUN]MadMani never use xterm07:43
[GUN]MadManjust guake and terminator07:43
ac3takwasDoes it have issues too?07:44
[GUN]MadManterminator has alot of features one i use the most is right click on the terminal window and split screen either horizontal or vertical07:44
[GUN]MadManworks fine for me07:44
ac3takwasOkay, thanksn.07:44
ac3takwasI'll give it a shot07:44
[GUN]MadMangood luck07:44
[GUN]MadManonce you get terminator open right click the terminal window and look at the options ..  Very nice07:45
ac3takwasokay07:46
ac3takwasIs there a way to set the new terminal as my default?07:46
[GUN]MadManare you using gnome or unity07:46
ac3takwasUnity07:48
[GUN]MadMan15.04?07:48
ac3takwas[Installed! Good]07:48
ac3takwasUhmm.. yeah I guess07:48
[GUN]MadManmay have to reboot for it to become default..07:49
ac3takwasOkay, but what do I have to do?07:49
[GUN]MadManif not you can go to system settings keyboard shortcuts07:50
[GUN]MadManand add a short cut for ctrl+alt+t for terminator07:50
[GUN]MadManbut it should replace the default terminal07:50
[GUN]MadManyou may have to reboot07:50
ac3takwasokay thanks07:50
ac3takwasI play with it now.07:51
ac3takwasThanks again for your help07:51
[GUN]MadMannp...07:51
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blaaaI have noticed some peculiar behavior of ubuntu with Marvell 9230 (88SE9230) SATA controllers: under heavy load messages 'failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED' start to appear and the connection is repeadetly reset and Buffer I/O errors and WRITE DMA EXT failures are logged07:58
minas114Hi. How can I check if pm-powersave is active?08:10
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bender|Hello.08:38
lowtech486hi08:39
bender|I have this 'virtual keyboard' on my login screen, which is blocking my UI options. (The little option menu beside the login textboxes which lists window manager options). How do I disable the Virtual Keyboard during logon?08:39
lowtech486spike your computer on the ground that should fix it.08:40
cfhowlett!behelpful | lowtech48608:40
ubottulowtech486: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.08:40
bender|lol08:41
cfhowlettbender|, I THINK that's an ubuntu accessibility option.  go into your setttings and disable08:41
lowtech486ok Tom Brady wont be playing this weekend08:41
[GUN]MadMansystem settings08:41
[GUN]MadMantext entry08:41
[GUN]MadManuncheck show current input source08:42
[GUN]MadManfor ubuntu unity08:42
[GUN]MadManor spike your computer.. . both work08:42
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foffoliriumwhy can't i change brightness on screen?09:11
foffoliriumplease help.09:11
foffoliriumany1?09:12
cfhowlettfoffolirium, no details >>> no help09:13
foffoliriumc09:13
foffoliriumcfhowlett: what info do u need, i09:13
foffoliriumcfhowlett: i'm new09:13
cfhowlett!details09:13
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)09:13
foffoliriumcfhowlett: alright, i can't change my brightness on my laptop. I see the bar on the top right, but nothing happens. Also when i unplugg my charger my computer freezes.09:15
cfhowlettfoffolirium, ubuntu version number?  make/model of computer?09:15
foffoliriumcfhowlett: belieave it's my graphic card09:16
foffoliriumcfhowlett: ubuntu 14.04 lts, packard bell09:17
foffoliriumcfhowlett: what command 2 use to see specs?09:17
cfhowlettlappy/desktop?  and what GPU09:17
foffoliriumcfhowlett: lappy, processor: inte core i5, graphic: geforce gt 520m/pcle/sse2, 64 bit os type09:19
cfhowlettfoffolirium, did you install the nvidia drivers?09:21
jolkHello. I've ubuntu 12.04. I want to format it and then upgrade it to latest version. How do i go about it?09:22
cfhowlettjolk, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade09:23
foffoliriumcfhowlett: packard bell model nr: P5WS0, yeah I went to additional drivers, and used the first, proprietary, tested09:23
foffoliriumcfhowlett: original was only open source, and my mouse acted crazy, started blinking and hiding09:23
cfhowlettfoffolirium, OK.  system>nvidia X server settings > choose Intel or Nvidia09:24
jolkcfhowlett: what about formatting?09:24
foffoliriumjolk: sudo apt-get upgrade09:24
cfhowlettjolk, then you should clean install 14.0409:24
Ben64jolk: not necessary, but you can boot a 14.04 disc and do that09:24
jolkI am confused09:25
jolkcfhowlett: how to do clean install?09:26
cfhowlettjolk, you can do an upgrade in place 12.04 > 14.04.  OR download the 14.04 .iso, make an ubuntu USB/DVD, boot said USB, and install 14.04.  format your target partitions.09:26
foffoliriumcfhowlett: didn't understand, all my options is nvidia binary driver, or legacy driver or both binary and legacy driver. Except one who is "using X.org X server"09:27
cfhowlettfoffolirium, nvidia prime stuff - apparently you don't have it.  no problem.09:27
jolkcfhowlett: but if I do upgrade, formatting won't be done, right?09:27
jolki've taken backup of my stuff. All I want is fresh installation of 14.04 with no previous stuff09:28
cfhowlettjolk, USB + format09:28
foffoliriumcfhowlett: what?09:28
bender|I couldn't find a 'Text Entry' menu under System Settings.09:29
bender|And the weird fact is, the keyboard only appears at login, not while running the OS normally.09:30
bender|*virtual keyboard09:30
user1234Does Ubuntu have backdoors for government?09:30
cfhowlettuser1234, many people have looked.  none have been discovered.09:31
foffoliriumwhat torrent program is rekommended on ubuntu?09:31
cfhowlettfoffolirium, the default will do. transmission IIRC09:31
peenso I know this an ubuntu forum and its kind of related09:31
peenbut its also part windows09:31
foffoliriumcfhowlett: thank you!09:32
peenI have a SAMBA share setup on an ubuntu server09:32
peeni have 6 windows servers09:32
peenall but 1 can access the share09:32
cfhowlettfoffolirium, happy2help!09:32
foffoliriumcfhowlett: how do i continue on my problem?09:32
peenno users, public share on the network09:32
ivo34hello I am running Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits but I want this 32 bits program so bad...  http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/32-bit_firestorm_in_64-bit_ubuntu ...that I am about to install it... how will those 32 bits libraries affect my system?09:33
cfhowlettfoffolirium, check your keyboard settings and make sure you've selected the correct model09:33
milk_basehello noobs. is Ubuntu FOSS?09:34
bender|hey milk_base!09:34
foffoliriumcfhowlett: what? i really am just a beginner...09:34
ikoniamilk_base: please don't call people "noobs" especially when you're askiing very basic questions yourself09:34
cfhowlettmilk_base, noobs?   really?   such insults are unnecessary and demotivating.  check your attitude09:34
milk_baseikonia: that was the joke, tard09:35
cfhowletttard?  seriously?09:35
foffoliriumalway some1 trying to start a flamewar, just ignore...09:35
milk_basecan we drop the american attitude pls. No wonder you're in wars all the time. So, is ubuntu FOSS?09:35
cfhowlettfoffolirium, agreed.  /ignore list updated.09:35
peenB-B-B-B-B-BANHAMMER09:36
foffoliriumcfhowlett: (Y)09:36
bender|lol09:36
foffoliriumcfhowlett: what did u mean by check my keyboard settings?09:36
cfhowlettfoffolirium, your keyoboard settings and shortcuts.  make sure you've selected the appropriate layout.09:36
dohzerDo USB IDs normally stay the same? I've got a device that seems to change IDs every time I connect it, which means sometimes the rules don't work. It's changing from, 09fb:6010 to 09fb:6810 occasionally.09:37
foffoliriumi did that when i installed ubuntu, every shortcut works just fine, exept the brightness shortcut09:37
jolkcfhowlett: my filesystem type of USB is msdos. I am using that to make bootable usb. Is that ok?09:37
foffoliriumi did that when i installed ubuntu, every shortcut works just fine, exept the brightness shortcut09:37
cfhowlettjolk, fat3209:38
jolkcfhowlett: but then i need to use that usb as normal usb on my windows machine. I'll have to reformat it again then?09:38
cfhowlettfoffolirium, ow.  OK, this issue officially exceeds my foundation.  sorry.  ask again.09:38
cumaxohello09:38
cfhowlettjolk, no fat32 is windows readable09:38
jolkso how to change this usb to fat32?09:39
cfhowlett!USB | jolk,09:39
ubottujolk,: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:39
foffoliriumcfhowlett: it's crazy! cuz when I had ubuntu before on the same computer everything worked just fine09:39
cumaxoMy wifi applet in the panel ( MATE DE) is dissapear09:39
foffoliriumcfhowlett: crazy! Thank u, u are a hero!09:39
cumaxocould someone help me to recovery pls?09:39
cfhowlettfoffolirium, last chance, reboot and use an old kernel.  guess perhaps a kernel update broke something.09:39
czwolfHello, I have a folder structure like this: Root (files a, b,c) - subfolderA (files o, p, q) - subfolderB (files x, y, z). I need a command to copy the structure of folders only, and not the files included. I would like such structure to be saved by cron regularly too.09:40
foffoliriumcfhowlett: yeah, but i flushed my system yesterday. so everything is new09:40
cfhowlettfoffolirium, !   "flushed"?   I'm afraid to ask but ... what?09:40
foffoliriumcfhowlett: Haha, sorry, reinstalled the system09:41
cfhowlettfoffolirium, ah.  this is a laptop right?09:41
foffoliriumcfhowlett: yeah, i always have the option 2 throw it out the window, it's not heavy, at least i got that going for me ;)09:42
cfhowlettfoffolirium, don't throw.  BUT ... your media keys also have an alternate, right ..09:42
cumaxocould someone help me to recovery the network applet icon on my MATE desktop ?09:43
foffoliriumcfhowlett: what?09:43
cfhowletton my dell, I can switch key trigger by holding FN key.  try your keys again with FN09:43
czwolfSaying that another way - how can I copy folders without including their content? I do not want the list of folders in a text file, but the folders.09:50
ad123fdgfhgfh09:50
stef_i have 128 ssd.. and i whant doul boot win7 and ubuntu..  how many gb need for ubuntu ?09:51
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stef_can you help me ?09:53
cumaxomy network applet is dissapear ... ( MATE de) could someone help me pls to recovery?09:55
jolkcfhowlett: when i right click usb drive, it shows filesystem MSDOS but using disk utitlity, it shows FAT3209:55
sudomarizeHow can i prevent a process from opening? e.g. if i dont want gnome-control-panel to be able to be opened09:55
cfhowlettjolk, let's assume DU is accurate09:55
jolkhaha okat cfhowlett09:56
jolki plan to use unetbootin to make bootable usb09:56
cumaxonm-applet-Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon09:56
cumaxoI have this issue... please , help me guys09:56
sudomarizeNot killing, but preventing it from running when someone tries to run it09:57
sudomarizee.g. if you click on the files icon, the file manager process wont run09:57
sudomarizeanyone?09:58
DrGrovRunning Firefox 40.0 on 14.04. Is there any way to disable the HTML5 player completely in Firefox on ex. YouTube?10:12
Nebraskkaheya! any idea, where coredumps appearing after app crash? i'm developing own app on ubuntu server, set ulimin - c unlimited, having "Segmentation fault (core dumped)", but looks like apport somehow eating them? where are they?10:27
Nebraskkatypo: ulimit -c unlimited10:27
Jack67Hi!10:29
not1but2Hi210:30
Nebraskkanvm, i'll try some way described here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Core_dump10:30
NebraskkaHeya, Jack67, not1but210:30
not1but2This is the easiest way to get banned ...10:33
not1but2Suggest people to clear junk with sudo rm -rf /10:34
cfhowlettnot1but2, this is ubuntu suppport.  ask your ubuntu questions.10:35
cfhowlett!guidelines | not1but2 also. guidelines apply to all.  yes, even you.10:35
bazhangnot1but2, that does nothing except annoy10:35
ubottunot1but2 also. guidelines apply to all.  yes, even you.: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:35
bazhangnot1but2, stay on topic here10:35
not1but2Kk10:36
not1but2Im just bored right now10:36
cfhowlettnot1but2, find a more entertaining channel somewhere else then.  thank you.10:36
bazhangnot1but2, then head to the offtopic chat room10:36
DrGrovAnyone else experiencing playback issues on 14.04 with FF 40.0 on YouTube?10:55
devhackblist10:56
qqzHow to copy the first two tracks of a data CD only?10:56
badbodhDrGrov, firefox flash plugin is severely outdated. better use chromium+pepperflash if you want flash videos10:57
sevenofninewho is in charge of android-tools-adb (4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu23)10:57
Taker_Guys, I have a question. I have a system with Ubuntu 15.04 and after an update Grub don’t boot in the usual mode but only if the previous boot was not complete. Any advice how to fix that?10:57
JackevansevoDrGrov: Either that or try the new HTML5 player10:57
sevenofninetrusty/universe (archive.ubuntu.com)10:58
sevenofnineandroid-tools-adb (4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu23)10:58
devhackusually booting with the live disk and using boot-repair is the easiest thing10:59
sevenofnineplease this version of adb is old its 1.0.3110:59
sudomarizeHow can i prevent a process from opening? e.g. if i dont want gnome-control-panel to be able to be opened10:59
Taker_devhack: I’ll try. Thanks. :)10:59
devhacknp :)10:59
sudomarizenot pkill or anything, but actually preventing an unopened process from running11:00
Jackevansevosudomarize: is it in the autostart applications?11:00
DrGrovJackevansevo: The issue is that I am not getting 1080p playback on videos which I know have 1080p or even 4K playback with the HTML 5 option11:00
mcphailsevenofnine: I am sure that version will not be updated, beyond imprtant security fixes11:00
MonkeyDustsudomarize  you mean, a service?11:01
DrGrovOn another note, has anyone tested the offiicial Ubuntu NVIDIA Graphics Drivers PPA yet and can give some feedback?11:01
sevenofnineI need adb 1.0.32 or newer to sideload updates to my nexus 511:01
sevenofninemcphail11:01
mcphailsevenofnine: a LTS release will not give you version updates11:01
DrGrovhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-drivers-ppa-is-ready-for-action11:01
sevenofnineso you suggest I load ubuntu 15.04 in a VM to update my nexus 5?11:02
sevenofnineseems like a waste of time11:02
sevenofninebut sitting here talking about it is more of a waste11:02
mcphailsevenofnine: you will have to (1) update your operating system, or (2) use a PPA or (3) install adb from another source. Only number (1) would be supported here11:02
JackevansevoDrGrov: http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/06/29/get-1080p-youtubes-html5-player-firefox-linux/11:02
sudomarizeJackevansevo, MonkeyDust: not too sure. It's the 'wingpanel' process in pantheon, but i'm wondering more generally. For instance when i pkill -9 this process, it instantly returns11:03
sevenofninehas development on 16.04 LTS started?11:03
mcphailsevenofnine: no11:03
sudomarizei'm wondering if theres a way i can block any process11:03
mcphailsevenofnine: you could use 14.04, though11:03
MonkeyDustsudomarize  is that a game?11:03
MonkeyDust!find pantheon11:04
ubottuPackage/file pantheon does not exist in vivid11:04
DrGrovJackevansevo: I hope that it will give a better playback as well, it is stuttering on 720p with HTML5 and the specs I have should not cause that11:04
mcphail!info android-tools-adb utopic11:04
ubottuandroid-tools-adb (source: android-tools): Android Debug Bridge CLI tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu36 (utopic), package size 67 kB, installed size 241 kB (Only available for linux-any)11:04
DrGrovJackevansevo: And thanks for the link :)11:04
mcphail!info android-tools-adb vivid11:04
ubottuandroid-tools-adb (source: android-tools): Android Debug Bridge CLI tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu41 (vivid), package size 67 kB, installed size 241 kB (Only available for linux-any)11:04
JackevansevoDrGrov: No problem, the flash to html5 transition has been a pain for me aswell11:05
mcphailsevenofnine: looks like similar versions, even in updated repos11:05
sevenofninehttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/android-tools/11:05
DrGrovJackevansevo: I mean, running a Xeon E5-2620 here with 8GB of RAM and 1GB nVidia 62011:05
sevenofnineandroid-tools-adbd_4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu41_amd64.deb03-Mar-2015 11:29 53K11:05
Jackevansevosudomarize: iirc wingpanel is an integeral part of the pantheon desktop no?, what are you tryign to achieve?11:05
MonkeyDustsudomarize  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue11:06
mcphailsevenofnine: the vivid version is only 1.0.3111:07
sevenofninemcphail: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/android-tools/11:08
sevenofninesays march 3rd 201511:08
Jackevansevosudomarize: I think you might need to check out https://launchpad.net/cerbere it's part of pantheon desktop and auto restarts applications when they are closed or crash. It's probably this process that is restarting wingpanel11:08
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mcphailsevenofnine: yes, but remember that is the date it was added for vivid, _not_ the date it was released by google11:09
sevenofnineyes11:09
MonkeyDustsudomarize  i guess you're using elementary or so11:09
Jackevansevosudomarize: if you're on elementary I think there's an option to toggle what applications cerebre restarts instead of the system settings planel11:09
mcphailsevenofnine: if you need a newer version, I think you are going to have to use the version in the android SDK from google11:09
sevenofninegoogle has not updated to a newer version in Universe11:09
sudomarizeJackevansevo, MonkeyDust: great ill check it out11:09
MonkeyDustsudomarize  elementary is not supported here, type /j #elementary11:10
DrGrovJackevansevo: That went good, changing the values at least. Just one as false, perhaps the mp4.enabled there was a hickup. It was true and should have been false11:11
JackevansevoDrGrov: does 1080p show up on the YT html5 player now?11:12
DrGrovJackevansevo: Perhaps a fresh restart of FF would be suitable? Yes, 1080p 60 fps also shows :)11:12
JackevansevoDrGrov: Great :)11:12
DrGrovJackevansevo: Should the playback be completely fluent on specs I have? Or could it still be choppy?11:13
JackevansevoDrGrov: There shouldn't be any issues, I'm able to get smooth video playback on pretty low grade hardware (over decent internet connection)11:14
mcphailsevenofnine: you may wish to add your voice to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-tools/+bug/145916511:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1459165 in android-tools (Ubuntu) "outdated, not working on newer devices" [Undecided,New]11:14
DrGrovJackevansevo: Okay, I will just restart FF then and check it out11:14
sevenofninemcphail: thanks for the link11:15
sevenofnineI clicked this affects me too11:15
mcphailsevenofnine: good. Hope you get a response11:15
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czwolfHello, can you help with syntax? Tried:  find "$sourceDir" -type d | sed -e "s?$sourceDir?$targetDir?" | xargs mkdir -p and got this: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' and  unexpected end of file. http://pastebin.com/gAs0vM6u11:20
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DrGrovJackevansevo: But, now I am back on Flash :D11:22
DrGrovJackevansevo: At least on this one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI3pxPBYLfo Italian Football11:22
DrGrovJackevansevo: But now, the other videos I have watched, football talk shows, are perfect playback without choppiness :)11:23
DrGrovJackevansevo: Thank you very much for the kind help! :)11:23
MonkeyDustczwolf  if you don't get an answer here, there's also #bash11:24
czwolfThank you MonkeyDust, I will for sure connect there too. :)11:25
frapoxhi everyone11:27
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frapoxis anyone using Print-to-file feature to print webpages with Firefox?11:27
cfhowlettfrapox, yes, but please avoid "does anyone" type questions.  state your specific issue11:28
BluesKajHiyas all11:29
NymeriaFrHi guys, is someone able to help me ! I try to develop an application for ubuntu touch, it's run on desktop but impossible to lunch it into smartphone11:29
cfhowlett!touch | NymeriaFr11:29
ubottuNymeriaFr: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:29
mcphailNymeriaFr: you will get better help in #ubuntu-app-devel11:29
mcphailNymeriaFr: most people are around in that channel during European office hours11:30
frapoxthank you cfhowlett , so I need to print PDF files that have the correct date-stamp into them. In fact, when I print a webpage, the resulting PDF file always has the date of 1 jan 1970...11:31
cfhowlettfrapox, whoa!  let me test.  ubuntu 14.04, ffox 40, yes?11:31
frapoxI use Ubuntu 15.04 and FF 40.011:32
NymeriaFrmcphail, thank you for afice11:32
NymeriaFradvice*11:32
NymeriaFrthat mean I have to wait monday ?11:32
mcphailNymeriaFr: I can see if I can help you. Join #ubuntu-app-devel11:32
cfhowlettfrapox, never seen that error before but I did have to reset my bios clock after replacing my motherboard.  suggest you reboot and check your bios settins11:32
cfhowlett*settings*11:33
frapoxI'll do it cfhowlett, then I'll post here again11:33
mcphailfrapox: I see the same error11:37
NymeriaFrmcphail, thank you11:37
NymeriaFrI'll come in 5min11:37
mission712Hello, I have a question11:37
cfhowlett!ask | mission71211:38
ubottumission712: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:38
frapoxmcphail, thanks for you confirmation11:38
mission712I installed kubuntu-full package via apt-get and now I want to remove it but sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-full gives me package not found error, how do I remove it?11:38
frapoxthis is my current date-time http://pastebin.com/Ma5megQQ11:38
cfhowlettmission712, try apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop11:39
mission712I am not on ubuntu right now so I can't provide logs11:39
mission712Will try hanks11:39
sudomarize what does killing X Server do?11:47
frapoxwell, I checked the Uefi Bios and time and date are correctly set11:47
cfhowlettfrapox curious: open a terminal:   cal11:49
rory-sudomarize: It will probably put you back at the login screen, or else you will have to switch to another TTY (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and log in, then start it again.11:49
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frapoxcfhowlett, it prints correctly "15 aug"11:50
cfhowlettfrapox, date11:50
frapoxreally strange11:50
frapoxcfhowlett, date is ok too...11:51
frapox:\11:51
frapoxmaybe a bug of libCairo?11:51
cfhowlettfrapox, strange an frustrating.  IDK what to tell you.11:51
user1234Is Ubuntu based on Debian or Gentoo?11:51
frapoxsorry cfhowlett, what do you mean with IDK?11:52
cfhowlettuser1234 you did this last night: asking VERY basic questions.  wasn't funny then.  ain't funny now.11:52
DarkMatDebian user123411:52
cfhowlettfrapox, I don't know11:52
frapoxcfhowlett, in the italian channel they suggested me a guide to follow...  where it's written to do: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata11:53
sudomarizerory: would that just be 'sudo restart gdm' if im using gnome?11:53
cfhowlettfrapox, decent suggestion.   go for it.11:54
HewloThereHi. If I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 10, does the Ubuntu installer already have GRUB built in? Also, will I still need to back up my Windows SSD if I want to install it on another drive?11:54
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DarkMatWhat should I use for L2TP/Ipsec with PreSharedKey? Works with android and Windows but cannot connect with Ubuntu11:54
cfhowlettHewloThere, ubuntu comes with grub.  and you should only backup stuff you don't want to lose.11:55
HewloThereOkay, thanks. Will the installer touch my SSD if I choose another drive?11:55
cfhowlettHewloThere, be careful where you point your bootloader (grub) location target11:56
HewloThereOkay. What do you mean by that?11:56
bekksHewloThere: It will touch your SSD, since apparently thats your boot drive, and Ubuntu needs to install GRUB onto the MBR of the boot drive.11:56
HewloThereOh, okay.11:56
frapoxcfhowlett, I've gone for it, but it's the same11:56
frapoxafter all I guess it's something related to Cairo...11:57
cfhowlettfrapox, ONLY on pdf's, right?  I wonder if it could be a pdf reader or printer setting11:57
cfhowlettor a ffox setting11:58
cfhowlettfrapox, actually here's a test: install a different browser and print a .pdf.11:59
rorysudomarize: it might be lightdm. use the command "service --status-all" to see all running services.12:00
rorysudomarize: and then it would be "sudo service lightdm start"12:00
frapoxI also tried to print a PDF inside Evince (from another PDF lol) and the result is the same! For this reason I think it's not a problem of FF cfhowlett12:01
rorysudomarize: same command whatever the service is called.12:01
sudomarizerory: yeah realized that after looking in /etc/init.d, thanks for pointing that out12:01
cfhowlettfrapox, no you confirmed it's not a ffox issue.12:01
sudomarizerory: is there a difference between a service and a process, or are they effectively the same thing?12:01
pc-moon_hello12:01
cfhowlettfrapox, it works fine on my system fwiw.  then again, I have installed on printers  ...12:01
pc-moon_i made class HREmpsController extends Controller but i cant reach the url of this app : 192.168.8.105/yiigsdentallab/web/index.php?r=HREmps12:02
pc-moon_can anyone tell my why HREmpsController not connected in url index.php?r=HREmps12:03
MonkeyDustpc-moon_  in what coding language?12:04
pc-moon_php yii12:04
rorysudomarize: a service often runs processes. A service is something the init system uses to manage the running of daemon-like processes12:04
rorysudomarize: so, it'll control starting, stopping, restarting, and maybe how they log and stuff12:05
MonkeyDustpc-moon_  type /j ##php   <-- double #12:05
pc-moon_ok well thank you12:05
rorysudomarize: you can look at (for example) the way the ufw firewall service is run in /etc/init/ufw.conf12:06
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sudomarizerory: great explanation, thanks. Guess i'll need to learn shell scripting if i want to understand Linux better12:08
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zamalipheplease help12:08
cfhowlettfrapox, OK, this seems promising.  cups-pdf is the manages our .pdf print process.  I'm looking for a reconfigure or set up option12:08
cfhowlett!help | zamaliphe12:08
ubottuzamaliphe: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:08
rorysudomarize: init scripts aren't shell scripting12:08
zamalipheglxinfo | grep OpenGL | grep renderer12:08
zamalipheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile12:08
rorysudomarize: but yes, having a working understanding of bash is very helpful indeed12:09
sudomarizerory: are they a DSL?12:09
zamalipheafter 2 days of trying to install nvidia i still faile12:09
zamaliphei have laptop with 2 grafics cards on it intel and nvidia12:09
zamaliphei need to run nvidia as default12:09
zamaliphethat is all12:10
TJ-zamaliphe: what is the make and model of laptop?12:10
cfhowlett!nvidia | zamaliphe12:10
ubottuzamaliphe: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:10
zamaliphelenovo z57012:10
rorysudomarize: Well some of the scripts in init.d are bash scripts I guess. But the /etc/init/*.conf are only understandable by the init system12:10
TJ-zamaliphe: It sounds like you have a hybrid system with Optimus graphics... Intel for low-power and Nvidia for high-power. If the system is using a MUX-less design it is possible nvidia-prime won't work with it on Linux12:11
zamalipheTJ-:  MUX-less design ?12:14
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TJ-zamaliphe: As I said it depends on the mkae/model... originally these hybrid GPU designs used a MUX (Multiplex) switch to transfer the LVDS/HDMI/VGA outputs between the 2 GPUs ... to further save costs the manufacturers came up with the MUX-less design which has no such switch. The low-power GPU drives the outputs all the time, but when the high-power GPU is in operation it is used to do frame rendering into the low-power GPU's frame buffers12:19
TJ-zamaliphe: whether that has anything to do with the Z570 I don't know, but it is worth being aware of since it can complicate the process of getting working GPU drivers12:20
TJ-zamaliphe: searches on the web seem to indicate the Z570 should work OK with the nvidia + nvidia-prime drivers, although it might depend on how recent they are - which release of Ubuntu is it ?12:21
ioriaTJ-  disable intel in bios, or try bumblebee ?12:22
zamaliphehttp://pastebin.com/P7KkYbmT  i think i know why now but i dont know how to fix it12:26
zamaliphewhen ever i start my pc gpu-manger know that i have nvidia enabled but yet still selecting mesa driver12:27
zamaliphecan any one help with this12:27
TJ-zamaliphe: what kernel version is running? "/lib/modules/4.1.0-040100rc2-generic': No such file or directory" suggests you're using a mainline test build but the modules directory is missing12:29
TJ-zamaliphe: this seems to confirm it: "Error: can't access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/driver"12:30
SimooonHey, I just installed 14.04 on an old computer, and when I start it up, it only loads X but not unity, any ideas?!12:35
pandeiro`bluetooth should be enabled on ubuntu/xubuntu out of the box, right?12:35
pandeiro`it seems like a recent update (xubuntu 14.04) left me unable to connect12:36
MonkeyDustSimooon  if it's an old computer, unity may be too 'heavy' ... ctrl-alt-f1 and install lxde or so12:36
pandeiro`when i try to open the bluetooth manager, a warning box pops up and says Bluetooth must be enabled, and then gives me a Cancel button and an Enable Bluetooth button12:36
pandeiro`clicking the latter allows the manager to open, but doesn't seem to actually enable it12:36
SimooonMonkeyDust, sure, but it should still run, but slugish right?!12:37
pandeiro`because i don't see the any bluetooth devices nearby12:37
pandeiro`anyone know how i can debug this?12:37
TJ-pandeiro`: have you accidentally disabled it with the RFKILL switch? "rfkill list"12:37
pandeiro`TJ-: thanks, nope, not listed there12:37
pandeiro`i think i even went an manually added unblock to /etc/rfkill or something like that12:38
TJ-pandeiro`: you mean no BT device is listed?12:38
pandeiro`based on earlier googling12:38
pandeiro`TJ-: no bluetooth device is listed12:38
TJ-pandeiro`: any "hci*" device?12:38
SimooonMonkeyDust, also, it seems to start, if I wait for the computer to lock the screen and then come back, so it CAN run, it just does not star up with the computer12:38
pandeiro`TJ-: no12:38
pandeiro`TJ-: phy0 and asus-wlan12:39
TJ-pandeiro`: if it doesn't show up there then there's likely a hardware issue... is the BT device USB? check "lsusb" and "lspci -nn" for signs of the hardware12:39
Simooongoing to go have an other look (in a different room), if anyone has any ideas, please ping or PM me thanks :-)12:40
pandeiro`TJ-: not usb no, i don't think... i'll try lspci12:40
TJ-pandeiro`: does your laptop model allow selectively disabling WLAN and BT devices separately?12:40
pandeiro`TJ-: i don't see anything bluetooth related in lsusb and pspci output o.012:41
pandeiro`TJ-: i don't know if my laptop allows that -- do you mean does it have a hardware key for enabling/disabling bluetooth?12:41
Simooonmeh, too much hassle, I think I'll try ubuntu mate12:42
TJ-pandeiro`: I'd check the firmware/BIOS setup to be absolutely sure the BT hardware isn't disabled there first. Then resume with analysing why the OS isn't seeing the BT hardware.12:42
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pandeiro`TJ-: ok, i will give that a try. thanks for your help12:42
TJ-pandeiro`: some laptops allow the hardware for each device to be selectively disabled12:42
pandeiro`that may be the case12:43
ioriaSimooon, did you select download updates during installation process ?12:43
TJ-pandeiro`: best to be sure it is enabled there before wasting time hunting it in the OS12:43
pandeiro`i'm also starting to wonder if the laptop is bluetooth enabled12:43
pandeiro`i mean, if it has the capability12:43
TJ-pandeiro`: you mean you've never had it working? I thought your comments meant it had12:43
pandeiro`all recent laptops should have bluetooth, right?12:43
TJ-pandeiro`: No. depends on the model12:43
pandeiro`TJ-: i think i did, but i am starting to question my own memory12:43
Simooonioria, yes, was not connected to the internet, but ran the update and upgrade command in an other tty after instalation, and restarted several times, with no success12:44
TJ-pandeiro`: well... if you have a BT mouse/keyboard and they worked... !12:44
pandeiro`i can find a spec sheet for this model and check12:44
pandeiro`TJ-: it is a speaker actually that i want to use12:44
pandeiro`and i think i had it working at some point already...12:44
pandeiro`i'm gonna log off and try to see if the BIOS has any info12:44
ioriaSimooon, autologin ?12:44
TJ-pandeiro`: We've had many users with a laptop they thought had BT due to the marketing blurb, find out in fact there is no BT device in their specific model12:45
Simooonno12:45
pandeiro`TJ-: ouch, i really hope that isn't the case :) ... brb12:45
Simooonioria, no, manual login, and that part works just fine12:45
ioriaSimooon, usuall y it takes a while only on my system ... but not after a locking screen  ... :(12:46
ioria*also12:46
Simooonioria, tried waiting for a long time, and it does load after the screen has been locked, but that makes no sense to wait for that every time12:47
Simooonioria, though I guess it proves that it does work to some extend12:47
ioriaSimooon, sure... maybe a compiz problem..12:47
Simooonioria, but I will try mate and see if that is up for the task instead, unity seems to be too heavy for the old computer anyway12:48
Simooonioria, but thanks for the suggestions :-)12:48
ioriaSimooon, which is ?12:48
Simooonioria, it is a fork of gnome 212:49
ioriaSimooon, no... your pc ?12:49
Simooonioria, ahh okay :-P not really sure, it is fairly old, some stock HP machine12:50
ioriaSimooon, dpkg -l  compizconfig-settings-manager ?12:51
DarkMatWhat should I use for L2TP/Ipsec with PreSharedKey? Works with android and Windows but cannot connect with Ubuntu12:51
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Guest4104hello12:51
Simooonioria, it is a AMD Athlon 3400+ will go check out the rest in a moment12:53
pandeiro`TJ-: lol well nothing in BIOS and no mention of bluetooth in the laptop specs :-/12:54
TJ-pandeiro`: that would explain it :)12:55
pandeiro`how do you make a netbook w/o bluetooth these days... baffling12:56
pandeiro`do bluetooth usb adapters exist? guess that's my next buy if so12:56
ioriaSimooon, you can try /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p     to test ?12:56
TJ-pandeiro`: their may be space inside for a BT device... what is the make/model of laptop?12:57
TJ-s/their/there/12:57
pandeiro`TJ-: asus f102b12:58
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Simooonioria, I think I will try installing mate first, since unity is probably going to be bad, even if I make it work as it should, I will get back, if I experience the same issues :-)13:00
TJ-pandeiro`: see http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-F102BA-DF047H-Netbook.108428.0.html  and the paragraph headed "Communication" !!13:00
ioriaSimooon, you could runthis to be sure :  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p13:01
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Simooonioria, okay, will do that first then :-)13:02
pandeiro`TJ-: wow.13:02
ioriaSimooon,  it's a command to test if you can run unity or not13:02
pandeiro`ah, i still have windows on this computer!13:03
pandeiro`i'll head there and report back13:04
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kevininspainHi I am using a windows phone a Lumia 640 XL and am trying to import images, all I get is this error: Unable to access “Windows8_OS”  any ideas ?13:05
zamalipheTJ-: thanks so  much for your help13:06
TJ-zamaliphe: did you fix it?13:06
zamalipheTJ-: i'm trying to fix this now13:06
Simooonioria, it says "Error: unable to open display" I guess that means the computer failed the test13:06
jokowi_an_assholKevininspain - this is #ubuntu13:06
* zamaliphe rebooting13:06
kevininspainjokowi_an_asshol, yeah that's why I am here13:07
Limberiankevininspain, Check the phone screen if it says something like open usb storage thing.13:07
kevininspainubuntu can't find the windows phone ?13:07
Limberiankevininspain, or a question like trust this computer?13:07
xbonerlol windows phone13:07
kevininspainLimberian, OK will have a look13:08
Limberiankevininspain, If there is not an option like that search google. -- If not, use dropbox or something to import.13:08
ioriaSimooon,  if i may, consider also Xubuntu or Lubuntu ... light and speedy13:08
Simooonioria, sure, I have used Xubuntu myself for some time, don't really like LXDE, but the linux action show had a lot of praise for ubuntu mate, so I will give that a try first, otherwise I think I will go for xubuntu13:10
kevininspainLimberian, Seems I will have to as it's coming up with this Unable to mount Lumia 640 XL LTE Dual SIM (RM 106513:11
kevininspainLimberian, Thanks for answering anyway13:12
modulo123Hi, I am trying to make a bootable USB drive with the latest Ubuntu x86 on Asus T100-type computer with UEFI. I used rufus and disabled secure boot and I chose the USB drive as the first priority UEFI. It only boots to the windows bootloader and if I try to override this in UEFI the screen just flickers and goes back to UEFI. Any suggestions?13:12
minas114Hi. My bluetooth is not working. The bluetooth indicator shows that it is enabled and visible, but I cannot discover other bluetooth devices and I can't be discovered by other bluetooth devices. My driver is Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0a5c:21d7 Broadcom Corp. BCM43142 Bluetooth 4.0. I'm on Ubuntu 15.04 x64.13:16
TJ-minas114: what does "rfkill list" report?13:16
minas114TJ-, http://pastebin.com/mA92dVXC13:17
TJ-minas114: that's good. next thing to do is use the terminal to monitor the syslog whilst trying to do device discovery, it may reveal something: "tail -f /var/log/syslog"13:18
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minas114TJ-, http://pastebin.com/nGZ8eTGh13:20
minas114TJ-, Before that, I executed sudo bluetoothd restart (found it on some forums, but no luck)13:20
TJ-minas114: has the bluetooth device ever connected with other devices?13:22
minas114TJ-, Nope.13:22
minas114TJ-, I just read somewhere that it needs to be enabled in Windows first.13:22
minas114TJ-, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup13:22
minas114TJ-, "For Dell laptops install the latest drivers from Dell's website in Windows in order for the bluetooth module to work in Linux. "13:22
minas114Mine is dell.13:23
TJ-minas114: yes, that is sometimes the case that the Windows driver does weird things to enable the device fully.13:23
minas114TJ-, Ok, so I should log into windows and make it work from there first,right?13:23
TJ-minas114: Yes... go into Windows and test bluetooth as it is now... if it works, you know it ought to work in Linux. If it needs additional Windows drivers loading, then try that, but make sure BT works in Windows before trying Linux13:24
pandeiro`TJ-: yeah, no bluetooth in windows either so i guess we've discovered the problem...13:24
teegeeHi13:24
TJ-pandeiro`: I may have a solution for you.13:24
minas114TJ-, I will, thanks13:24
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pandeiro`TJ-: what's that?13:25
TJ-pandeiro`: I finally found some hi-res photos of the F102b (aka X102ba) opened up, from another Linux user. It has a mini-pci-e slot for the wifi module. You could replace that with a combined WiFi/BT module and an additional BT antenna in the case.13:25
John70hi13:26
TJ-pandeiro`: see https://unofficialx102.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/p10309371.jpg13:26
TJ-pandeiro`:  from the page https://unofficialx102.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/x102ba-unboxing-and-disassembly/13:26
teegeemy sshd is getting hammered with invalid user attempts from this guy: 123.141.154.138. Apparently lives in seoul13:27
teegeeany suggestions for tools that deal with that kind of stuff? add temp firewall rules etc?13:28
pandeiro`TJ-: thanks, bookmarking this so i can look into it later13:28
TJ-teegee: maybe a firewall rule will quieten things down: "sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 123.141.154.138 -j DROP"13:28
jokowi_an_assholFail2ban13:28
dialooks like a hijacked shite13:29
diasite*13:29
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teegeeTJ: that'll solve it for tonight, yes. But looking through my auth.log I'm getting loads of those from all over the place. Must be on some sort of list :/13:30
pandeiro`teegee: how did you discover it?13:31
Guest12205Ubuntu BR chat?13:31
TJ-teegee: block all port 22 access then, and use a VPN yourself and only allow SSH within the VPN13:31
jokowi_an_assholInstall fail2ban13:31
diaActually teegee... if possible, just change the port sshd is hosted on13:32
teegeeI was cleaning out my iptables and had logging on verbose. noticed the connects in the log13:32
teegeeMy first idea was to add those two lines to the end of my sshd_config:13:32
teegeethree..13:33
teegeePasswordAuthentication no13:33
teegeeMatch Address 192.168.1.0/24 User <me>13:33
teegeePasswordAuthentication yes13:33
dia22 and 2222 usually get slammed13:33
teegeebut I never got "No supported authentication methods available" in the log for the external attempts13:34
teegeecan anyone see what's wrong with that?13:36
TJ-sshd should never be publicly exposed - even on a non-standard port. It's still discoverable. If the port is exposed it is susceptible to DoS attack. Obfuscation is not security.13:36
teegeehm13:37
OrpheonHello, I have just installed ubuntu 15.04 on an older computer fresh from a livecd. When booting, the computer first goes through the standard bios screen, then the screen goes black, notifies that it is not receiving any signal and the computer restarts. Then the bios screen re-appears. What should I do?13:38
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diaTJ-, the idea isn't to stop against a 'smart' attack, but from automated bots13:40
MonkeyDustOrpheon  where did you get the .iso?13:40
teegeeTJ left13:40
OrpheonMonkeyDust: The ubuntu home page, 64-bit desktop version.13:41
zykotick9dia: you may want to look into the fail2ban package...13:41
Discordian93could someone help me with a small problem with my keyboard? I've been googling for a while, but I can't find anything, probably I don't know the exact terminology I need to get the results I need. The keyboard bindings in the text entry menu say that the greater than and less than symbols are bound to the z and x keys, but I cannot find which other key I need to press in order to use them13:42
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minas114TJ-, I disabled bluetooth on Windows and now it works on ubuntu :)13:43
MonkeyDustOrpheon  'an older pc' ... is it 64bit capable? from the live cd, open a terminal and type   sudo dmidecode --type 4 ... what's the very last line?13:43
teegeezykotick9: last updated a year ago13:43
teegeebut that's the sort of stuff I was looking for13:43
OrpheonMonkeyDust: will try, will take a while13:43
diazykotick9, yea looks nice.13:43
MonkeyDustOrpheon  ctrl-alt-t ... sudo  dmidecode --type 413:45
AEL-HHello all, I have set up an ubuntu server 14.04 and I am currently hosting a game server off of that, I want to be able to make a user to allow my friends to ssh in and access the server files but nothing else, can anyone provide some guidance?13:48
HewlpThereHi. I'm trying to dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.04 and I'm having trouble selecting root partition. How do I do this?13:49
OrpheonMonkeyDust: dmidecode: unrecognized option '--4'13:50
MonkeyDustOrpheon  --type 413:50
Orpheonoh, sorry13:50
xbonerhewlpthere : partiton the drive, and make the new partion ntfs13:50
OrpheonMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12087863/13:51
xboneror if ur in windows tryin to install ubuntu, partiton it and leave it empty, and ubuntu will set up the unpartitioned space13:52
_SLM_When I type the '-key twice, I get ´. Can I change this to be '? Now I have to type '+space. The devil is in the details, and I would love it if this would work since I use ' all the time but ´ never13:52
HewlpThereIts a a second HDD13:52
OrpheonMonkeyDust: I don't see anything I recognize as pointing to 32-bit or 64-bit; where would one see that?13:53
xbonerso wipe the drive out, and install it13:53
xboner " / " is the root13:53
MonkeyDustOrpheon  'part number' is not the last line, look more below13:53
OrpheonMonkeyDust: it is13:53
MonkeyDustOrpheon  on your screen, not in the pastebin13:53
_SLM_Yeah, this is my big complaint with Ubuntu right now. Which is a big compliment to Ubuntu from a Ubuntu newbie :) Still, would love an answer13:54
OrpheonMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12087886/ with the two13:54
_SLM_Ubuntu really kicks ass :)13:54
Orpheon*two lines after and before13:54
HewlpTherexboner: I can't see NTFS as an option?13:55
xbonerif you are in the ubuntu installer, it wont be13:56
xbonerit will be ext3 or ext413:56
HewlpThereOk13:56
xboneryour root will be ur secondary drive13:56
xbonerjust select ur second disk13:56
xbonermake sure u dont overwrite your current disk, disk0 sometimes disk113:57
kulelu88Hello. How do I log the output of the console to a file? I would like to install a docker image and I'd like to log the console output to a file like file.txt13:57
OrpheonMonkeyDust: Using lscpu, "CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit", seems to support 64bit13:57
zykotick9kulelu88: you might want to check out the "script" command13:58
teegeelooking at sshguard13:58
DexterFhi13:58
kulelu88zykotick9: can I not use something like --log file.txt ?13:58
Orpheonkulelu88: (command) (lessthan character which I can't type here) (file)13:58
xbonerkulelu88 : command | tee ~/outputfile.txt13:59
Orpheoncommand > file.txt13:59
kulelu88let me try that, thanks zykotick9 Orpheon xboner13:59
modulo123Hi, I am trying to make a bootable USB drive with the latest Ubuntu x86 on Asus T100-type computer with UEFI. I used rufus and disabled secure boot and I chose the USB drive as the first priority UEFI. It only boots to the windows bootloader and if I try to override this in UEFI the screen just flickers and goes back to UEFI. Any suggestions?13:59
DexterFare there alternatives to grub2 that allow me to boot from an md raid?13:59
Orpheonalternatively, if you want errors too, IIRC you can do command &> file.txt14:00
aeden__DDoes anyone know of a free Usenet provider that supports SSL?14:00
MonkeyDustOrpheon  good find14:00
xbonercmd > output.txt14:00
xbonerworks as well14:01
daftykinsAEL-H: i think giving SSH access is overkill, why not just install a web server, zip up the files and host them? or do you want them to edit game server configs directly?14:01
Orpheonis there maybe any place I can check for logs of booting?14:01
xboner"/var/logs"14:01
daftykinsOrpheon: dmesg is one14:01
Orpheondaftykins: if I run dmesg on livecd, does it give me the livecd boot log or the log of the pc earlier?14:02
xbonerit gives livecd logs14:03
daftykinsOrpheon: live session, you could've done with mentioning that part ;)14:03
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Orpheondaftykins: ah, alright. Well, let me rephrase: Is there any way to check what happened during the (unsuccessful) boot of the main partition while on livecd?14:04
Orpheonit didn't even get to grub menu14:04
daftykinsyep mount the disk and read /var/log14:04
diaAEL-H, you'll want to setup a ftp14:04
daftykinsdia: nope that's terrible advice too14:05
daftykinsstandard unencrypted FTP is way too old school.14:05
Orpheondaftykins: any idea which of these logs?$14:05
dialol i just said ftp14:05
diadoesn't mean non encrypted14:05
daftykinsdia: regardless, antiquated rubbish. and yes ftps would've been ;)14:06
zykotick9http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie14:06
daftykins!logs14:06
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.14:06
daftykinshmm wrong thing14:06
xbonerftp will never die14:06
xbonerlol14:06
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dialol is sftp bad advice too?14:09
daftykinsthat's what the user asked for originally.14:09
teegeealright, sshguard all set up. now if only the bad guy wouldn't have stopped trying :/14:09
xboneri just setup ssh on a different port14:10
xbonerenforce fingerprints14:10
xbonerand enable ssh access to only certain users14:10
teegeexboner: did you see what I said above about my sshd_config?14:11
daftykinsyip +1 to non-standard port.14:11
xboneryea basically exactly what i do14:12
teegeeI thought turning off PasswordAuthentication would be a good idea but I don't understand why it doesn't show up in the log14:13
KingaKowalskilol14:14
omerhi14:14
KingaKowalskiHi All14:15
aeden__DDoes anyone here use a Usenet service? looking for a free server that offers SSL14:15
KingaKowalskiI'm Crossdress from Poland14:15
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daftykinsaeden__D: inappropriate topic14:17
xbonergoodluck finding that as well14:18
xboneryou will have shit retention / group count14:18
aeden__Ddaftykins, I dont see how since I'm trying to setup with Thunderbird on Ubuntu??14:18
daftykins!language | xboner and not for the first time14:18
ubottuxboner and not for the first time: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList14:18
daftykinsaeden__D: fighting it is the first confirmation of drama14:18
daftykinsjust accept it and look elsewhere14:18
teegeezykotick9, dia: thanks for the inspiration14:21
teegeei'm off14:21
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_SLM_When I type the '-key twice, I get ´. Can I change this to be '? Now I have to type '+space. The devil is in the details, and I would love it if this would work since I use ' all the time but ´ never14:22
daftykins_SLM_: what region keyboard is this?14:22
_SLM_My keyboard is currently 'US with dead keys', since I need support for ö, á, etc14:22
xbonerjust change the keyboard bindings ?14:23
OerHeks_SLM_, type: alt-gr + '14:23
_SLM_I am used to something for years, thats why I would prefer to use my old way14:23
_SLM_alt-gr+' is not logical in my brain14:23
aeden__Ddaftykins, wow, ok. I guess you dont know the answer then. Just looking for help on this friendly and overly eager to help Ubuntu channel <sarcasm>14:24
daftykinsaeden__D: believe all you like :) btw it's newsgroups that'd be in thunderbird14:24
_SLM_OerHeks, doesnt work, alt-gr opens the ubuntu eye search-bar14:25
aeden__Ddaftykins, I've got that setup... Just looking for alternatives to paid servers that offer extra security via encryption. Nothing malicious14:26
aeden__Ddaftykins, if you believe this to be offtopic then perhaps you could point me in the right direction14:27
daftykinsaeden__D: such a thing isn't allowed on the entire network afaiui14:27
daftykinsknock yourself out with the "alis" bot for finding channels though.14:28
daftykins!alis14:28
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*14:28
_SLM_nvm, wrong alt, alt-gr works, but thats a workaround14:28
daftykinssounds like the proper way to me :)14:28
charlesdubgood day, all.  I have an issue with mysql-server-5.6 on 15.04.  getting this in the error log: ERROR: 1062  Duplicate entry 'innodb' for key 'PRIMARY'14:30
charlesdubI've even purged and removed all mysql packages and directories.14:30
daftykinsare you trying to import a backup?14:31
telboonis there a way to delete all unused config files? (ie the programs I've removed)14:31
aeden__Ddaftykins, freenode offers mask for nicks and at one time a tor service, not to mention SSL and SASL I dont see how posing a question regarding secure transmission on Usenet server is risqué14:31
charlesdubdraftykins: I'm not even to that point.  this is after mysqld fails to start with apt-get and I try apt-get again14:32
daftykinsaeden__D: stop messaging me now please.14:32
MonkeyDusttelboon  try this   sudo apt install aptitude; sudo aptitude purge ~c    <-- yes, that's a tilde14:32
daftykinsoh just startup? ok no idea14:32
aeden__Ddaftykins, out of your league I assume. Ill respect your request.14:33
telboonMonkeyDust: thanks! will try it out!14:33
daftykinsaeden__D: i know that you're attempting to use insults as a way for me to help you, but it's not going to happen. so bye bye14:33
dialolwhat14:33
aeden__Ddaftykins, that was not an insult, friend. Just an observation.14:35
daftykinswe really do get the strange ones on at the weekend :)14:35
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aeden__Dcharlesdub, have ran mysqlcheck ?14:39
aeden__Dcharlesdub, The duplicate key entry happens when you reach the upper limit of the auto increment field14:40
charlesdubaeden: mysqld isn't properly configured, much less running14:44
charlesdubI tried mysqlcheck but there's nothing to connec to14:44
charlesdubI found a question on stackoverflow regarding my exact situation (DigitalOcean instance).  the answer seems to be that mysqld needs 1GB of RAM to start14:45
pratikkamathey14:47
pratikkamatis anyone there14:48
charlesdubfixed! added swap to the DO instance14:50
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AEL-Hhow do I give a user permission to make their own directories and nothing else?14:54
tgm4883AEL-H: I don't know if you can. Usually giving them access to create directories would also give them the ability to create and write to files (and delete both)14:56
MonkeyDustAEL-H  simply don't give him root permission14:56
trbssGot a faulty lid switch on zareason ultralap 440.  Trying to get ubuntu 15.04 to ignore the switch to no avail.  Tried changing logind.conf and UPower.conf didn't seem to help at all.  http://pastebin.com/pv5mG5jj  Anyone have any idea?   My google-fu is not strong in finding a working solution.14:56
AEL-HI am having troubles making a new user with a home directory14:57
AEL-HI have given the command : useradd -d test14:57
AEL-Hwill this not make their homedirectory /home/test?14:57
MonkeyDustyes14:57
AEL-HThat is not what happened and I am confused why14:58
tgm4883AEL-H: because it should be "useradd -d /home/test test"14:58
AEL-HI will doublecheck but I think I tried that too14:58
tgm4883AEL-H: home directories don't have to be in /home14:58
tgm4883AEL-H: oh, you also need -m14:59
AEL-Huseradd -d -m /home/test test , should work?14:59
tgm4883AEL-H: -d just says where the home directory should be. -m tells useradd to create it14:59
MonkeyDustyes, i guess it's -m that creates a folder in home15:00
tgm4883AEL-H: yes15:00
tgm4883AEL-H: man useradd15:00
gh0st2kAEL-H, Probably have to be "useradd -m -d /home/test test" since the path to the home folder is a parameter for -d15:01
gartralhey all, I have a newly build system here that's exhibiting some really strange behavior.. and it has me worried... the max temp for my CPU, which should be the shutdown temp, is 74c... my cpu just did 10 minutes at 80c with cpuburn, what's the possibility that the modules loaded for temp sensors are wrong/miscalibrated?15:01
d0lph1n98hi guys, any guide how to build a kernelspace driver for linux based os?15:01
AEL-HThanks, this appears to have worked15:01
tonyaldois there anything I can do to free my machine from locking up under heavy HD use?15:01
tgm4883AEL-H: gh0st2k is correct15:01
MonkeyDustd0lph1n98  how is your question ubuntu related?15:02
d0lph1n98perhaps anyone have some experience on building driver for ubuntu?15:03
voozeIs it possible to change unity launcher icon size from terminal?15:04
gh0st2ktonyaldo, Buy an SSD? :)15:05
OerHeksvooze, why the hard way, systemsettings > appearance has the setting for that15:06
tonyaldogh0st2k, i know :( this laptop is a huge pain to replace parts on you literally have to pry off the keyboard and unscrew about 15 screws15:06
voozeOerHeks: I know, but my external monitor uses 48, and my laptop uses 38, so I want a quick way to change it, like writing an alias in .bashrc15:06
NokajiHi, I'm looking for a way to restore nautilus windows upon reboot (like how microsoft windows does). Apparently there used to be a 'gnome-session-properties' which did the trick but this was removed in 'gnome 3.12' - I can not find anything in gnome-tweak-tool either.15:06
MonkeyDustvooze  use dconf-editor to find the entry, then use that entry in a terminal15:06
voozeMonkeyDust: I cant find it, if so, its not possible?15:07
OerHeksvooze, it can be done, http://askubuntu.com/questions/519678/unity-14-04-set-launcher-icon-size-via-command-line15:07
voozeOerHeks: ah there it is, thank you :)15:09
r00teranybody here ?15:10
voozer00ter: no.15:10
r00terhow can i mount fat filesystem with dislocker15:11
d0lph1n98ok guys, my next questions that probably related to ubuntu is where can i get the source code for the driver for example ralink15:11
daftykins!source15:11
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html15:11
OerHeksubuntu and disklocker ...15:12
daftykinsr00ter: what's up with just mounting them directly?15:12
OerHeksr000t, you mean bitlocker?15:13
diad0lph1n98, proably in the kernel source15:14
d0lph1n98dia: what do you means by kernel source?15:15
diad0lph1n98, https://www.kernel.org/15:16
d0lph1n98hah! i got it. Thanks a lot dia.15:20
diayup15:20
Nokajianyone tried these hand-held remote controls for PCs? - for emails, web browsers, music players etc - any recommendations on best remote controllers?15:22
cfhowlett!hardware | Nokaji15:22
ubottuNokaji: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection15:22
NokajiThanks cfhowlett. It's also a LIRC thing and I've seen (somewhere) LIRC compatible devices however non LIRC can be just as good or better, apparently15:23
Knight80Do you have any idea why I get this message from a python script when I press a button on my tablet to control Ardour?15:27
Knight80Exception TypeError: "'NoneType' object is not callable" in 'liblo._callback'15:27
cfhowlettKnight80, python questions?  #python channel15:28
Knight80cfhowlett Thank you, but I don't have my nickname registered, so I can't send any text to the channel...15:29
daftykins!register15:29
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode15:29
Knight80Thank you very much15:30
cobbioUbuntu gets unresponsive when I run Spotify and Google Chrome with 8-10 tabs on my thinkpad X220 with 4gbs of ram. Ram usage is around 70%. is this chrome's fault?15:34
OerHeksdepends what is in those tabs, cobbio15:35
Jackevansevocobbio: I have the exact same laptop with Xubuntu and everything runs fine, check the system monitor (chrome extensions might be the issue)15:36
cobbioOerHeks, nothing heavy on resource like ebay pages and reddit etc.15:36
cobbioJackevansevo, This problem still remains with Xfce as well.15:36
cobbioWondering if I should get more rams15:37
cfhowlettcobbio, max out the ram.  more ram is never a bad idea.15:37
Jackevansevocobbio: well I've got 8gb on my machine but It shouldn't be making that much of a noticeable difference15:39
snowkidindok i am having issues getting rails to work on apache (passenger) with ubuntu on a production server (not really its my dev server, but it is serving webpages)15:48
snowkidindi am pretty sure it has to do with the virtual hosts config15:49
MonkeyDustsnowkidind  there's also #ubuntu-server15:49
snowkidindyou think id be better off there?15:49
snowkidindsounds cool 428 ppl15:49
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amoka_shi everyone16:20
r00terhiii16:21
Idiot_What the... Idiot is already in use?16:25
NokajiI am playing an old worlde game (in the ubuntu repositories) called Beneath A Steel Sky. Problem with it is a 320*240 resolution. ubuntu forums claims {Alt + Enter = make game fullscreen} works but no joy here.16:26
Idiot_Are people who are switching from {anything-but-Ubuntu} to Ubuntu at the moment accepted?16:27
cfhowlettIdiot_, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat.  this channel is for technical support.16:27
Nokajidon't see why not, they have a newbie section on some forum i recently visited, too16:27
Nokajiyes, tech only here16:28
Idiot_That's nice, I guess. Anyway, I'm installing Ubuntu from USB right now, and when I choose the "Try Ubuntu without installing" option, it takes me to a black screen with a flashing underscore/caret.16:28
cfhowlett!nomodeset | Idiot_16:28
ubottuIdiot_: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:28
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martysiahi16:30
martysiaI have simple question16:30
cfhowlett!ask | martinbjeldbak16:30
ubottumartinbjeldbak: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:30
cfhowlettmartysia, see above16:30
Idiot_I have Windows right now.16:30
martysiawhere can I find .deb files of the network manager?16:31
martysiafor Xubuntu?16:31
martysiathanks cfhowlett16:31
cfhowlettmartysia, packages.ubuntu.com16:32
martysiafound it16:35
martysiabut still I don't know how to do it16:36
cfhowlettmartysia, what exactly are you attempting?16:37
martysiaI want to download them and then using USb stick transfer them from LM to Xubuntu and install them there16:37
cfhowlettOK.  and you don't know how to ... what?16:37
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Guest45066哈喽16:38
martysiaI found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/network-manager/filelist16:39
cfhowlett!cn | guest4506616:39
ubottuguest45066: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:39
martysiacfhowlett: if I had internet connection on Xubuntu I would use sudo apt-get16:39
cfhowletthttp://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html16:39
Guest45066OK16:40
Guest45066I has installed Kali Linux 2.0 on VMwarelast day16:42
MonkeyDustGuest45066  kali is not supported here16:43
cfhowlettGuest45066, kali is not ubuntu and is not supported or discussed here.16:43
cfhowlett!kali | Guest4506616:43
ubottuGuest45066: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)16:43
Guest45066so i also has installed Ubuntu16:44
cfhowlettGuest45066, lsb_release -a says what?16:44
uioHello, would ubuntu run on an old non-PAE Pentium M ?16:45
cfhowlettuio, ubuntu?  probably not.  lubuntu or xubuntu?  probably.16:45
cfhowlettuio, note: lubuntu is optimized for older, slower hardware16:46
surgyhello i have a lubuntu 14.04 pc pentium dual core 3.2 ghz with 1gb ram. flash games on face book are real slow... do you think im running out of ram? or could it be my browser? (using chrome) or flashplugin? also i have the non free flash instaled the games work just slow sometimes16:46
HackerIIuio, just have 2 g of ram and run xubuntu, itl run very nice16:46
uiocfhowlett: HackerII Thanks for the suggestions - would I run into PAE troubles though ?16:46
cfhowlettsurgy, 1 gig of pretty low for gaming, isn't it?16:46
HackerIIshouldnt16:46
cfhowlettuio, lubuntu should not have any hiccups16:46
surgycfhowlett, its flash games..... they dont take much ram right?16:47
cfhowlettsurgy, they have been known to16:47
surgycfhowlett, so throw more at it?16:48
cfhowlettsurgy, I suggest maximum amount of ram you can stuff into a machine but that's just me ...16:49
OerHeks1 gb is bare minimum for chrome, and flashgame on top of that16:49
nith1210Does anyone know how to force ifup/ifdown to accept that an iface is up on boot (because initramfs sets it up)?16:51
tgm4883cfhowlett: I thought we didn't build non-PAE kernels anymore16:51
cfhowlettlubuntu is optimized for old/slow hardware tgm488316:51
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE16:52
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cfhowlettgood find OerHeks !16:53
tgm4883OerHeks: yes, I'm reading that. Specifically "Lubuntu and Xubuntu offered a PAE and a non-PAE release up to and including 12.04, but from 12.10 only the PAE releases are maintained."16:53
tgm4883cfhowlett: ^16:53
OerHeksjups, 12.0416:53
cfhowletttgm4883, 12.04 is still supported16:53
steven__can anyone help me with a technical problem concerning xubuntu?16:53
tgm4883cfhowlett: yes it is16:54
nith1210!ask | steven__16:54
ubottusteven__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:54
cfhowlett!ask | Steven-,16:54
ubottuSteven-,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:54
tgm4883cfhowlett: but only on xubuntui816:54
tgm4883cfhowlett: xubuntu, not lubuntu16:54
cfhowletttgm4883, so I see.16:55
tgm4883cfhowlett: actually, no, neither are supported16:55
steven__ok. problem is i installed xubuntu 14.04 LTS.  My firefox browser freezes.. when i use windows 7 it works fine.16:55
ioriaFake Pae16:55
steven__my mouse freezes and then horizontal lines come.16:56
OerHekshmm 9W .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/9w16:56
Steven-lol16:56
Steven-ok16:56
steven__it happens on linux mint, ubuntu, and xubuntu.. but not with chrome16:56
Limberian'sup fellas?16:57
chrisss123456Limberian: nm u?16:57
chrisss123456anyone here use calendar-app?16:57
Limberianchrisss123456, Nm, too.16:57
LimberianDoes anyone know any plugin for any browser that deletes history automatically by every hour?16:57
OerHeks!info rednotebook17:00
ubotturednotebook (source: rednotebook): daily journal with calendar, templates and keyword searching. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1-1 (vivid), package size 347 kB, installed size 2185 kB17:00
chrisss123456Limberian: there's "No History" in chrome, which is apparently inspired from a feature in Firefox, if that helps. Don't think it allows a 1 hour "cache" though...17:00
chrisss123456OerHeks: is that a reply to my question?17:00
OerHeks" there's "No History" in chrome"  ????17:00
pauljwLimberian, why not use firefox's private tab function and not have any history kept to begin with17:00
OerHeksLoLz17:00
cfhowlettLimberian, you could always set a cron job to delete your .cache on the hour17:01
chrisss123456OerHeks: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/no-history/ljamgkbcojbnmcaonjokopmcblmmpfch?hl=en17:01
MonkeyDustLimberian  in firefox: settings > privacy > remember history ... guess that comes close to what you want17:01
MonkeyDustLimberian  or what cfhowlett says17:02
chrisss123456MonkeyDust: that's probably what No History is referring to17:02
OerHeksoh, there is a  no-history-plugin ..17:02
OerHekschrisss123456, yes, rednotebook is a nice calanderapp17:02
chrisss123456OerHeks: oh yea haha thought it was implied, sorry17:02
MonkeyDustdidnt know no-history either17:03
OerHeksgrinn you almost made me happy17:03
chrisss123456OerHeks: ok i'll check it out! thanks!17:03
chrisss123456OerHeks: Rednotebook looks great, especially for making a journal, however I'm looking for something more for events management, that can sync with accounts like gmail and the sort.... I thought calendar-app was a saving grace, but it just bugs on startup....17:07
Taintwhen I first installed linux, a friend helped me17:10
Taintfirst thing he did was make a new account because the default was root17:10
Taintand gave it priveleges or something so I can still update and upgrade things17:10
Taintcan someone give me a link on exactly how to do that if anyone understands?17:11
TaintI remember chmod being used iirc17:11
tgm4883Taint: that doesn't sound like ubuntu at all17:13
chrisss123456OerHeks: you there?17:13
Taintwhy not? tgm488317:13
ioriasounds slackware :þ17:13
tgm4883Taint: well for starters, the default isn't root17:13
Taintcome to think of it he was helping me with another distro as well17:14
LambdaComplexTaint: Using useradd and usermod17:14
Taintso ubuntu isnt root by default?17:14
LambdaComplexNope17:14
Taintwhats the default?17:14
LambdaComplexWhatever you create during installation17:14
Taintah I see17:15
LimberianMonkeyDust, Hey, I saw it now. Thanks for the answer.17:15
Taintand that user has the ability to update and upgrade?17:15
Limberiancfhowlett, And thanks to you too.17:15
tgm4883Taint: yes17:15
Tainthmmm17:15
Taintmaybe it was changing the default root password?17:16
Taintdoes that sound plausible?17:16
Taint^ last question17:17
tgm4883Taint: well you can do that, it's not recommended though17:18
Taintok ty17:19
tgm4883Taint: by default, the root account has no password. It's not available to login17:19
Taintsorry for the confusion17:19
Taintoh17:19
TaintI thought it was toor or something17:19
Taintby default17:19
Taintoh well17:19
tgm4883nope17:19
martysiais there any simpler way to fix (install) my network manager than downloading all the files one by one on the system that has the internet connection and then installing them on the system that need the NM?17:20
Taintthanks though. I appreciate it17:20
Tainttgm4883,17:20
tgm4883!aptoncd17:21
ubottuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline17:21
martysiagreat, but I don't have a cd/dvd drive17:22
simon1764Has anyone an idea what could be wrong if I don't get a dropdown menu like it's described in this manual: https://www.maketecheasier.com/add-multiple-timezone-ubuntu/ when I try to add some timezones? I only have the UTC entry, if I type in some city names manually it doesn't recognize them.17:27
AEL-HHow can I restrict the commands a user can use?17:28
MonkeyDustAEL-H  sudo visudo   <-- careful!17:29
oatsMonkeyDust: A better idea might be "sudo EDITOR=nano visudo" so they don't have to use vim :)17:30
oats*vi17:30
tgm4883oats: except visudo validates the syntax17:40
oatstgm4883: and makes sure permissions don't get messed up17:40
tgm4883oats: would it still do that if you forced nano?17:41
oatstgm4883: I'm not entirely sure, I haven't read the source. I've always used "sudo EDITOR=nvim visudo" myself without trouble17:41
oatsso17:41
oats¯\_(ツ)_/¯17:41
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geekwaniHi, I want to reduce the minimum password length for an Ubuntu user from 5 to 1. I went through the docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/user-management.html#password-policy , but that doesn't seem to work... can anyone help ?17:46
steven__Hello17:48
geekwanihi17:48
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flux242hi, I need a simple systray icon that shows network iface throughput as bars, any hints?17:49
Guest79798plz som one me speed my internet17:49
steven__I'm having some trouble with the amd driver, my vtty are blank.17:49
steven__I've been able to get the console boot screens, but ctrl-f1-6 are blank17:50
ioriageekwani, check this file  /etc/pam.d/common-password17:50
steven__im running ubuntu 15.0417:51
geekwani@steven__ which display driver are you using ? i washaving a similar issue.. I used X.org drivers instead of proprietary drivers17:51
steven__i'm using the proprietary drivers17:52
steven__the only thing I haven't tried yet is nomodeset in the /etc/default/grub17:53
geekwani@ioria it now has "password [success=1 default=ignore] pam_unix.so sha512 minlen=1" , then i ran pam-auth-update.. still there is issue17:53
geekwani@steven__ you'll have to experiment a bit.. Let me check on my computer17:54
ioriageekwani, did you set minlen=1 after sha512 ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/180402/how-to-set-a-short-password-on-ubuntu17:54
martysiajest tu ktoś kto mówi po polsku moze?17:55
MonkeyDust!pl17:57
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.17:57
spm_dragetHow do I show the original version AND new verison of a package for which I added a ppa?17:57
steven__lol thats what I get for playing :) ....booted17:58
MonkeyDustspm_draget  better ask the maintainer of the ppa17:58
geekwaniawesome17:58
geekwani@steven__ what setting did you change ?17:59
steven__I tried the nomodeset and it made no difference17:59
steven__i'm suspecting it might be something with console-setup18:00
geekwanii see.. cool :)18:00
Kabuumhello18:01
mush2hi. i'm new to linux. what are the pros and cons of starting with ubuntu 15 vs 14?18:02
geekwani@iora thanks for help.. the problem was with the GUI client (which demands a password lof length >5).. on command line everything seems to work properly :)18:02
ioriagood18:03
OerHeksmush2, 14.04 lts is more stabe.18:03
nith1210mush2: 14.04 is the current LTS which means you won't have to upgrade for much longer.18:03
nith1210mush2: but 15 will have newer software in general (not enough to matter most of the time).18:04
nith1210atleast not to a new user :)18:04
mush2i don't mind upgrading. are there compatibility issues with using 15 vs 14?18:04
mush2i would be upgrading to 16 next year regardless18:04
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geekwani@mush2 depending on your requirement.. if you want to play around with the latest stuff, use 15, but if you want to learn linux, u may use either..18:05
Kabuumi use 14.04 LTS18:05
mush2is 15 going to be buggier?18:06
linuxholicHello, i have dual GPU laptop. Is there any way i can shift my GPU in ubuntu. Like in linux mint all i have to do is right-click on the settings and change my GPU to nVidia and logout and login. But in Ubuntu when i install nVidia driver and restart my laptop it doesn't boot up :D18:06
mush2also, other than systemd, are there any significant differences that i would be able to perceive?18:06
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nith1210mush2: They tend to go with more stable versions for LTS's so hypothetically yes, it'll be buggier but it is unlikely you'll notice.18:07
nith1210mush2: I don't know of any perceivable differences besides simply getting the newer UI.18:08
linuxholicHello, i have dual GPU laptop. Is there any way i can use the selected  GPU in ubuntu. Like in linux mint all i have to do is right-click on the settings and change my GPU to nVidia and logout and login. But in Ubuntu when i install nVidia driver and restart my laptop it doesn't boot up :D18:08
nith1210mush2: As for compatibility...  if you mean problems like when you have someting that works on win7 and you update to win10, there are typicall far far far fewer of those issues.18:08
mush2thanks nith121018:09
nith1210np, welcome to Ubuntu :)18:09
mush2is the newer ui much different?18:09
mush2also, is the 15 ui close to what we will see in 16?18:09
nith1210I personally use Kubuntu which is a different UI. I know they've made improvements to Unity (the Ubuntu default) but I haven't seen them.18:09
jim__trying to update my video for opengl, downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-355.00.05.run but not sure how to continue18:09
selite_I changed variable in bashrc but when i do echo $variablename, it still hasn't updated please help?18:09
Kabuumon my old netbook i use 12.418:10
nith1210mush2: To the best of my knowledge, they will be sticking with Unity but they will be doing a major update on it to make it work with Mira instead of X11.18:10
OerHeksjim__, don't use the run from their website. use the driver tool provided.18:10
jim__driver tool?18:11
nith1210mush2: My understanding is that all the same concepts/look and feel should be VERY similar.18:11
OerHeksjim__, if you *really* need that 355 latest driver,18:11
OerHeksthere is an official ppa comming for nvidiadrivers  still in testing, but nice ... http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa18:11
jim__i'm new to this & not sure what the driver tool is18:11
OerHekstype driver in dash search, and the additional driver tool will show up18:12
nith1210mush2: The only warning I'll give you with Ubuntu is that if you try to install manufacturer graphics drivers, it can get fairly difficult and the payoff is minimal. It sounds like a good idea but there be dragons.18:12
jim__dash search? the terminal?18:12
Guest22443hello18:13
jim__ok, thanks18:13
jim__got it18:13
jim__comes with five choices, not sure what will run opengl18:14
OerHeksuse the one that says 'recommended'18:14
SpeakFreelyCan someone tell me a good application for note taking on linux? I want to make the switch from windows but the only thing holding me back is the note-taking on linux I've tried sucks dick. I can't find any that are well organized and support mathematical equations. Onenote on windows is so easy to use and has such a wide range of features...unfortunately their web version does not support math :\18:14
jim__it doesn't that's why i'm asking or definately would use that18:15
OerHeksjim__, for what nvidia card ?18:15
jim__geforce 8500 gt18:15
OerHeksoh oke, use the 304 ( the 355 is no use for that older card)18:16
HalfwitSpeakFreely: Orgs mode in Emacs is wonderful for taking notes. Personally, I use Google Keep for any arbitrary notes I wish to takep18:16
jim__ok thanks18:16
Novice201yWhat's the best way of installing Ubuntu inside Windows (on virtual machine) to make it as much as possible independent from MS system? Dual boot is not an option here :/18:17
SpeakFreelyHalfwit, well this is for notetaking in class18:18
HalfwitSpeakFreely: Orgs mode in Emacs is worth a look, hten.18:18
SpeakFreelyHalfwit, alright thanks, it supports mathematical notation?18:19
SpeakFreelyHalfwit, such as super/scubscripts, summation symbols etc?18:19
OerHeksNovice201y, LXC, VMware, VirtualBox, Xen ..18:19
HalfwitSpeakFreely: Emacs can be extended to support it, I haven't done so yet; but I'm almost certain that it can.18:19
drkjstrSpeakFreely: If you use any google tools, Drive has equation capability in Docs.18:19
apple__just test18:19
HalfwitSpeakFreely: I found a latex extension already, so likely18:20
SpeakFreelydrkjstr, maybe I'll look into that...I just hate the idea of all my notes being stored for google to read18:20
jonathan_hi I heared it is a bad idea to put mysql into a kvm vm, is it the case ?18:20
apple__who18:20
HalfwitThat's a common misconception that Google really cares about your specific data :p18:20
OerHeksjonathan_, ask in #ubuntu-server plz18:20
drkjstrSpeakFreely: I used it when I used it when I was making equations for a Comp Sci class. I can understand that, but you can also make them available offline on your computer, and/or phone/tablet.18:20
SpeakFreelyI know they don't care about mine specifically lol18:20
SpeakFreelydrkjstr, yeah and I guess it would make things easier when transferring notes. Maybe I'll start using it18:21
jonathan_OerHeks  ok sure18:21
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xubuntuhello18:23
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apple__test18:24
m000gleIs there any way to get the hex colour code currently in use by the Unity Dash, the one automatically determined by the wallpaper in use?18:24
OerHeks!test | apple__18:25
ubottuapple__: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )18:25
Felix0100101ik spreek geen engels18:25
AEL-HWhat is to stop a normal user on a system to download so many files until the harddrive is capped?18:25
ioria!info zim          maybe take a look SpeakFreely18:26
ubottu'maybe' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed18:26
ioria!info zim18:26
ubottuzim (source: zim): graphical text editor based on wiki technologies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.62-3 (vivid), package size 908 kB, installed size 4273 kB18:26
Felix0100101geen nederlander ?18:27
HalfwitAEL-H: Quotas come to mind18:28
SpeakFreelyiroria, from my experience zim is one of the ones I was talking about when I said it sucks18:29
SpeakFreelygood for general note taking, not good for math18:29
ioriaSpeakFreely, ok ...  just reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/63464/note-taking-software-that-can-support-advanced-math-notation18:30
drkjstrSpeakFreely: I really enjoy the Google Drive suite of tools in school. Especially the collaborative side of it.18:34
Halfwitdrkjstr: You can easily and securely share with peopel, chat, etc. And then there's so many connected apps18:34
mush2also, is the 15 ui close to what we will see in 16?18:35
HalfwitPeople18:35
HalfwitWow. Keyboarding is really hard!18:35
farshid_hi18:36
KardosHalfwit, if you consider google having a copy of everything you do "secure", then perhaps18:37
OerHeksmush2, 16 is not even in development18:37
* tgm4883 wonders when we decided to drop off the end of the version numbers18:38
OerHeksunity8 is unity-next, but you can try that out in a LXC container or liveiso.18:38
HalfwitKardos: I think you misunderstand how much they have riding on the platform being secure.18:38
tgm4883Halfwit: Kardos lets keep this on topic shall we18:39
HalfwitKardos: But yes, I'm aware that my data is theirs in this case.18:39
mush2Google having a copy of everything you do is madness. They are getting hacked to death18:39
HalfwitLuckily I'm not insane enough to think I matter with what I'm putting on there18:39
Knight80I'm back18:41
Novice201yOerHeks - Thanks. I know vm software, but how to configure it to give Ubuntu as much independence from Windows as possible?18:41
Knight80tom- Are you still here?18:41
mush2tom is still on myspace18:42
tgm4883Novice201y: not entirely sure what you mean with that question18:43
OerHeksNovice201y, VMware does that automaticly, no?18:44
mush2tgm4883: i think he wants his vm to be as walled off from windows as possible18:44
Novice201ytgm4883: Windows 10 sends information to MS, even when all options about this are disables in system configuration.18:44
mush2^this18:44
Novice201ymush2: Exactly, thanks.18:44
tgm4883Novice201y: what does that have to do with Ubuntu?18:44
mush2Novice201y: first, you need to remove Windows 10 from your system and wipe the drive thoroughly18:45
mush2seriously18:45
* tgm4883 feels like he's taking crazy pills18:45
mush2if you must use Windows, then use 718:45
Novice201ymush2: Touching this Windos 10 is not an option :/18:45
OerHeksi am not even going to answer these trolling questions.18:46
tgm4883mush2: well that just seems like a silly and off topic thing to say in this channel18:46
mush2then I would recommend not touching it18:46
mush2use a different device18:46
Novice201ymush2: You mean live-USB?18:47
AEL-HI am having issues with authenticating on wget. I am trying to mirror an entire website whilst logged in using wget. The authentication works fine when I do https://login.xxxxx.ac.uk however when I try to access other parts of that site such as https://online.xxxxx.ac.uk I run into problems, does anyone know what might be going on?18:47
HalfwitYou can basically addle what WinX has the power to do within Ubuntu, but aside from that it's a fully-fledged OS. You can limit it's ports externally, but you aren't going to, say, give it networking and stop it's reporting from within a VM. (I'm almost certain that if you attempt to block the reporting through a firewall, they'll throw an error-addled hissy fit)18:48
OerHeksAEL-H, server does not want you to crawl, likely18:48
Halfwiterror-laden *, sorry.18:49
pokergodchattr +i /etc/hosts.  When I connect to openconnect, it still edits my /etc/hosts file.  How can I prevent this18:49
AEL-HOerHeks: I am not convinced that is the issue, I think it is simply I am missing something with respects to how to save a session or something similar. I am imitating what I would do on my browser exactly to my knowledge18:52
HalfwitThere's a few sites that note what you can get away with blocking/turning off, though. Worth a quick Google.18:53
ioriapokergod, /etc/hosts or resolv.conf ?18:55
pokergodyeah i meant /etc/resolv.conf18:55
pokergodchattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf18:56
Felix0100101me &218:57
ioriapokergod, why did you made it immutable ?18:58
ioria*make18:58
pokergodioria, when I connect to openconnect, it ends up putting the 10.* resolvers in there18:59
pokergodI don't want them.18:59
pokergodI added the entries i need via /etc/hsots18:59
ioriai see18:59
AHemlocksLieI know none of the Ubuntu Touch phones are sold in the US, but if I could get one imported somehow, would it function on American networks? Preferably T-Mobile?19:01
mush2AHemlocksLie19:01
mush2very slowly19:01
AHemlocksLieSo ther is "sort of"?19:01
mush2next gen Ubuntu phones will support LTE in US19:01
AHemlocksLie*the answer.19:01
mush2current ones will support 2G19:02
AHemlocksLieI dunno how I skipped 90% of a word19:02
mush2good luck with that19:02
nith1210AHemlocksLie: Assuming it's compatible with the network yes.19:02
AHemlocksLieAh. Do we have an ETA on the next gen?19:02
mush2i'm hearing late 2015 or early 201619:02
AHemlocksLieI would really like one, and I"m in the market for a new phone right now19:02
mush2worth the wait19:02
AHemlocksLieThat might be manageable... Mine has some issues and battle scars that are starting to get frustrateing19:03
AHemlocksLieAre these new ones gonna be sold in the states?19:03
daftykinsAHemlocksLie: i saw an article just the other day about a handset being launched in the US, but that the hardware doesn't support the local bands for data, so only 2G (EDGE) was possible - kinda makes it useless :)19:03
rocklobsterPLEASE HELP! My webcam does not work on HP Pavilion g6 running xubuntu.19:03
daftykins!touch | AHemlocksLie please bear in mind this is the wrong channel though i think19:03
ubottuAHemlocksLie please bear in mind this is the wrong channel though i think: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch19:03
AHemlocksLieOh, nice, there's a channel. Thanks.19:04
daftykinsno problemo19:04
rocklobsterPLEASE HELP! My webcam does not work on HP Pavilion g6 running xubuntu.19:06
daftykinsrocklobster: yep, no need to repeat so quickly :) can you at least provide the webcam model in your question?19:06
Jackevansevorocklobster: does it appear when you run lsusb in your terminal?19:07
ioriapokergod, sorry... cn't help you... bt take a look here https://stomp.colorado.edu/blog/blog/category/openconnect/19:08
linuxholicIs it necessary to install CUDA Toolkit in order to use hardware acceleration for playing heavy video files in ubuntu?19:08
pokergodokay thanks19:08
ikonialinuxholic: no19:08
linuxholicikonia, have you ever used hardware acceleration on nVidia?19:09
ikoniayes19:09
linuxholicI can play video files with linux GPU using VAAPI19:09
daftykinslinuxholic: all that's necessary is the proprietary video driver (probably, probably not) and a capable video player19:09
daftykinsnvidia is more so VDPAU than VAAPI19:09
linuxholicdaftykins, so i hvae to install VDPAU =?19:10
linuxholicin order to use hardware acceleration?19:10
bl0ck1esHey everyone, i removed unity shell and started using Gnome but i want to reinstall Unity Shell again. Anyone can help?19:10
linuxholicon VLC for example19:10
daftykinslinuxholic: no VDPAU support comes in the driver. what card and driver are you using?19:10
linuxholicI am using nVidia 8400M19:11
linuxholicdaftykins,19:11
linuxholicdaftykins, Dual-GPU19:11
daftykinslinuxholic: nvidia optimus?19:11
daftykinsi.e. intel + nvidia hybrid?19:11
linuxholicdaftykins, yes19:11
daftykinsthere's no real need to even use the nvidia chip then19:12
linuxholicdaftykins, you're saying that it's useless? :D19:12
ikoniathats not what he said19:12
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linuxholicI can completely change my GPU using nVidia Primus19:12
linuxholicikonia, i know :P19:12
OerHekslinuxholic, only the GeForce 8400M G is supported.19:13
daftykinsyour player will tell you what it's using19:13
linuxholicOerHeks, ok, thanks19:14
linuxholicdaftykins, i can't see the option of VDPAU in VLC settings19:14
linuxholicDoes it mean that my card is not supported?19:14
daftykinsi suspect you may need to investigate the menus a bit more - and that it may only be using the intel19:15
daftykinsi've never used VLC so i can't help you there19:15
linuxholicdaftykins, ok19:15
linuxholicThanks19:15
blue_dogHi all, how can link alethzero with my private cluster? Is it with the option "connect to peer"? If yes, which direccion do I have to put as peer?19:16
daftykinsblue_dog: what is any of that? how's it ubuntu related? :)19:17
blue_dogups, sorry, wrong forum :-D19:17
daftykinshehe, all good.19:18
daftykinsrocklobster: did you identify it yet? "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" would be a good start19:20
pokergodioria, i edited the vpnc-script to not call the MODIFYRESOLVCONF on connect/disconnect.  Works19:26
ioriapokergod, very happy to hear that. good job19:27
tokamhttp://pastebin.com/XHEPExgu19:30
tokamcan I somehow increase swap and decrease root?19:30
daftykinstokam: hmm, ideally you'd want another disk to backup to first19:31
daftykinstokam: what's up, too small to sleep/hibernate properly?19:31
tokamok. let's assume I did this...19:31
bekkstokam: Whats the output of "free -m"?19:31
tokamyes19:31
tokamhttp://pastebin.com/ukW4j1KR19:32
tokamI have 8GB ram and 2GB Swap19:32
tokambut I need 8GB swap19:32
daftykinsouch19:32
daftykinswell even more with that RAM usage19:32
bekkstokam: you have 3.9G swap.19:32
bekkstokam: What do you need that swap for - suspend to disk?19:33
tokamok19:33
tokamyes19:33
tokamhibernate19:33
tokamdid you calculate that in your mind?19:33
tokamahh no it sais 3,819:33
tokamok19:33
bekks:P19:33
* daftykins bows to bekks19:34
daftykins:D19:34
bekksdaftykins: :D19:34
agoshhello19:34
tokambekks: can I shrink down my partition with gparted?19:35
bekkstokam: After creating a valid backup, sure.19:35
tokambekks: so often thing go wrong?19:35
m1zkovgreetings..  do i need to compile my own wordlist to use with the aircrack suite, or is there one out there i can easily download that is actually practical for WPA2?19:36
tokamshould I backup only sda2 or must i backup sda3 too?19:36
daftykinsm1zkov: sorry, that suite isn't a topic welcome here.19:36
bekkstokam: Things need to go wrong for only you, and YOUR data will be lost.19:36
daftykinsm1zkov: i think they have their own channel(s)19:36
bekkstokam: Backup the entire disk.19:36
tokamI do not own a disk with enough space for sda319:37
bekkstokam: So you dont have data worth to be kept.19:37
tokambekks: :D19:37
m1zkovcan you direct me to a resource that will make me more fluent in the use of IRC chat then?  so i can direct myself to the proper chatroom?19:37
tokambekks: I do have backups I assume created with the ubuntu backup manager19:37
tokambut somestimes I get I/O errors.19:37
tokamI have latest commits on my svn server of my current project19:38
daftykinsm1zkov: well the websites of the software you speak of may often list an IRC network and channel to visit19:38
bekkstokam: You said you dont have enough space for creating a backup of all of your data.19:38
tokamnot enough space to make an additional backup with dd19:38
bekkstokam: No one even mentioned dd.19:38
tokamI will backup the entire disk somewhere, don't know yet where with dd19:38
tokamand than I will use gparted to reduce size of root on a gparted live disk19:39
bekkstokam: in most cases, dd is the wrong approach for creating a backup.19:39
daftykinsmy vote would be clonezilla \o/19:39
tokambekks: why?19:39
tokambekks: why not backing up in my case sda with dd19:39
daftykinsbackups with a tonne of zeroes aren't very efficient19:39
tokamand in case something wents wrong I restore sda19:39
bekkstokam: Do you have enough space for keeping 2 entire dd backups? No. As most people.19:40
Bashing-omm1zkov: ^^ , There is also ' /msg alis help list '19:40
tokamwhy 2?19:40
bekkstokam: Because one backup may fail.19:40
tokamdd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/some_large_hdd/my_backup19:40
bekkstokam: Forget dd.19:40
bekkstokam: Instead, backup your data.19:40
m1zkovi am using XChat-GNOME IRC Chat.  It has been about 12 years since I have really familiarized myself with this stuff because I smoked way too much weed during that period, so I am a total neophyte at using this..app?19:40
daftykinsm1zkov: #freenode can help you out then, "/join #freenode"19:41
tokamhave you once been in the situation too to be a person who owns almost nothing but the whole something which is in your head19:43
tokamyour personal wikipedia called brain19:43
bekkstokam: Thats irrelevant for the task you are faced with: create a backup of your data, dont image entire disks.19:43
HalfwitWhat19:43
tokambekks: yes! irrelevant for #ubuntu19:44
daftykinsHalfwit: my thoughts exactly19:44
bekkstokam: So concentrate on your task, in #ubuntu. :)19:44
Halfwittokam: You're trying really hard to express something deep, but I think you need to read over what you're saying, or if this isn't your native tongue; use your native tongue.19:44
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morenociao19:44
daftykinswell no not here, since it's english only :)19:44
l0p3nWhat the heck. I have the folders /home/FileSystem and /home/ISO. Are these folders created upon installing Ubuntu?19:46
bekksl0p3n: No.19:47
DJonesl0p3n: I've never seen those on a standard ubuntu install19:47
iorial0p3n, did you do a persistent usb ?19:48
l0p3nioria: Yes I did19:48
iorial0p3n, well, for a normal installation it's not required19:49
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l0p3naha19:49
l0p3nthanks19:50
iorial0p3n, just do a normal usb ... linupendrive from win or disk creator from  ubuntu19:50
l0p3nok I understand :)19:50
iorial0p3n,  *pendrivelinux19:51
AEL-HHow could I test the download speeds of an ubuntu server? --just looking for a generic answer19:54
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wileeeAEL-H, You might consider #ubuntu-server19:58
daftykinsAEL-H: wget an ubuntu ISO from a nearby mirror19:59
tgm4883AEL-H: you could use speedtest.net20:00
tgm4883I would say that is the best answer :)20:00
daftykinsspeedtest-cli :D20:00
tgm4883daftykins: yep20:01
tgm4883IIRC, it's written in python20:01
daftykinstgm4883: well, i find it doesn't work well everywhere in the world20:01
tgm4883ah20:01
daftykinsoften a real world download will outperform it20:01
tgm4883daftykins: it also doesn't work well if you hit it super often20:01
tgm4883as in you will get blocked20:01
daftykinsah didn't know they did that20:02
tgm4883daftykins: yep, I was adding it to some monitoring I was doing at home and got blocked for a bit20:02
AEL-Hsorry, I am quite bad when it comes to doing things like this entirely from the command line, how exactly could I use speedtest.net? just ping it?20:02
zproc1hello, should i use "pip" for Python 2 or 3 on 15.04? i would guess it's up to me, but two pip install i tried failed20:03
tgm4883!info speedtest-cli20:03
ubottuspeedtest-cli (source: speedtest-cli): Command line interface for testing internet bandwidth using speedtest.net. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (vivid), package size 12 kB, installed size 89 kB20:03
morenociao a tutti20:05
rocklobsterPLEASE HELP! xUbuntu does not recognize my laptop - HP Pavilion g620:06
jbreeding28I could use some help with my Ubuntu bootable flash drive. It refuses to even start Ubuntu.20:06
SoundAxisrocklobster, is this like a 50 first dates situation?20:06
rocklobsterNo.20:07
daftykinsrocklobster: it was just the webcam before, has it lost the entire machine now?20:07
kairohello, i tested speedtest-cli right now but it gives me a lot errors20:07
rocklobsterNah, I just want to cam with sexy ladies =[20:07
daftykinsjbreeding28: blank screen when selecting 'try' ?20:07
jbreeding28Yes. There's no signal going to my monitor and the screen goes completely blank.20:07
daftykinsrocklobster: well two of us replied to you earlier on how to proceed but you didn't reply...20:07
daftykins!nomodeset | jbreeding28 try this20:08
ubottujbreeding28 try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:08
kairolast error: urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.20:08
jbreeding28oh, okay.20:08
daftykinsrocklobster: so if you would bolster your query with the link created by "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsusb | pastebinit" that'd be a great start20:08
rocklobsterdaftykins, I PMed one guy who replied but unfortunately he was unable to help20:08
GerowenOn the desktop PC in the living room, my wife tried hooking up our Playstation eye webcam, and lost all audio on her name.  Volume levels are set properly, device output is set to the correct device, and audio works on other usernames.  Running Ubuntu 15.04.  Suggestions?20:08
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kairoi think speedtest have some bugs20:09
daftykinsrocklobster: yeah, PMing people in a help channel is very bad netiquette.20:09
daftykins!pm20:09
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.20:09
jbreeding28It's fixed. Thank you.20:09
jbreeding28I was able to run Linux Mint without that, so I thought Ubuntu would be the same way.20:10
kairourllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.20:10
daftykinsjbreeding28: they might bundle a proprietary graphics driver perhaps, once you install you'll need to seek out a proper driver for your system to have things perform properly20:10
kairoi will just remove it, thk's for no response20:11
daftykinsrocklobster: funny, i just told you about not private messaging helpers and you did it immediately. good luck with your problem, you'll get no assistance from me :)20:12
morenociao!20:12
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OerHekskairo, maybe there is an update for impatience20:15
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DzAirmaXhi guyz20:18
daftykinshi20:18
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DzAirmaXwhat is the best way to create an user with a disabled password ?20:19
daftykinswhat do you mean by disabled password?20:19
OerHeks= guest user20:19
DzAirmaXI want the user only able to login using a key20:19
daftykinsare you talking about SSH keys?20:20
DzAirmaXyeah20:20
DzAirmaXadduser --disabled-password user120:20
DzAirmaXthis command doesn't work anymore20:21
daftykinsi would've thought just set a long password and not tell the user, then configure SSHd to restrict that user to key auth only - but that's a guess with no deep experience with key auth20:21
Ben64DzAirmaX: you don't want to disable the password, you want to force ssh logins to use a key, totally different20:21
DzAirmaXBen64 :  I thought diabling password will force the use of a key too ...20:22
DzAirmaXdaftykins : could be a solution too20:22
DzAirmaXBen64 : I dont want a empty password, I want to diable it ...20:23
Ben64why do you want to disable the password20:23
DzAirmaXforcing the ssh key auth20:23
Ben64so just force ssh key auth!20:23
DzAirmaXwhich is already force in sshd_conf20:23
DzAirmaXBen64 : so what happend when I create an user and dont set a password using the command adduser ?20:24
DzAirmaXuseradd* sorry20:24
Ben64then it has no password20:25
DzAirmaXok thank you guyz fir the info20:27
DzAirmaXfor20:27
changnesiaHey guys. I'm unable to boot a live usb on my preinstalled windows laptop, which I'd like to dualboot. However, I can boot a ubuntu dvd in legacy mode. Theoretically, if I run it, installed in  legacy mode, ignored the BIOS partition error and then run  boot repair, would  this lead me to a functioning double booting machine?20:28
daftykinschangnesia: nope, you might be able to convert that install to EFI from legacy, but i wouldn't recommend that approach at all20:29
daftykinschangnesia: have you been shown the EFI guide?20:29
daftykins!efi20:29
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:29
ooossieeHi all. Im wonderin how cumulative updares work on ubuntu. Does updating once in a while (every 2 or 3  or more mo ths) will not break the system?20:29
changnesiadaftkins: yes and I've been trying to make my usb work for three  days. Nothing I've tried or been advised to try worked.20:30
bekksooossiee: There are no cumulative updates in Ubuntu. Nothing like Service Packs, etc.20:30
tgm4883ooossiee: also, I wouldn't wait that long to update20:30
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Flannelooossiee: It'll update just fine (of course, there are reasons you wouldn't want to wait that long between updates, but from a purely functional point of view, it'll work fine)20:31
tgm4883changnesia: out of curiosity, what laptop?20:31
zproc1i want to test the hibernate feature like https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html said here but there is no "pm-hibernate" on my system20:31
daftykinschangnesia: that's a pain, what kind of system isit?20:31
changnesiatgm4883: Lenovo G50020:32
changnesiadaftykins: Windows 10.20:32
daftykinsyeah i meant make and model too20:32
daftykinshrmm.20:32
daftykinsany BIOS updates listed for the system online?20:32
Forums|27133hey guys, whats a good irc client for ubuntu based distro?20:33
changnesiadaftykins: I'll check.20:33
Forums|27133I'm using Elementary OS20:33
XD4rkerxchat is a good one20:33
daftykins!elementary | Forums|27133 Sorry, but regardless of your query being multi-distro...20:34
ubottuForums|27133 Sorry, but regardless of your query being multi-distro...: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.20:34
daftykinsForums|27133: hexchat might be a good bet though.20:34
GerowenAnybody have any idea why sound would go out and not come back, even after a reboot, on one specific username, but not others on the same system?  Ubuntu 15.04.  All she did was plug in my Playstation Eye camera and the audio quit, but sound still works just fine on my son's username, guest account, etc.20:34
XD4rkeri meant hexchat*20:34
Forums|27133thanks20:34
Forums|27133will try it out20:34
zproc1can i install and use pm-utils safely on my system? (ubuntu gnome 15.04)20:34
changnesiadaftykins: There is an update from '14. Do you think it would help?20:35
daftykinschangnesia: well they usually publisha text file with the full change log20:35
OerHeksmaybe that update unlocks your bios > license.20:35
daftykins:D20:36
changnesiadaftykins: https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/78CN25WW_Readme.txt20:36
ooossieeThank you guys. Im.currently using manjaro. The thing is that since i travel some times im offline a long time20:37
ooossieeI dont want to get online and an update break my system20:37
daftykinsooossiee: manjaro isn't supported here?20:38
daftykinsah i see your question now, nevermind20:38
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daftykinschangnesia: hmm, well it's not without risk, there doesn't appear to be any detail in that specific document that would suggest it'd be of any help.20:39
Forums|27133hee20:39
wileeeooossiee, Don't do a partial upgrade, carry a HD with an image/clone and you will be basically safe have your bases covered if your fix skills are limited.20:40
daftykinschangnesia: do you have just the one flash drive to work with, or multiple? (for trying to boot)20:40
changnesiadaftykins: I've tried two. One never gets past the lenovo sccreen and the other was ignored.20:41
daftykinschangnesia: oh and you also mentioned DVD, does your Lenovo's BIOS boot menu (F12 key typically) list the DVD drive twice - once for legacy and once for EFI?20:41
changnesiadaftykins: In efi there is no dvd, only in legacy.20:41
daftykinsbear in mind that a lot of the time you need to use FN+F12 due to the way Lenovo's like to handle function keys too20:41
daftykinsah well that's very odd.20:41
OerHekschangnesia, disabled Fastboot? that could prevent booting from usb too.20:41
changnesiaoerheks: yes, I followed all the usual advice.20:42
daftykinschangnesia: i think the easiest way to proceed in these situations, is if you have any way to provide pictures of every screen of the system's EFI.20:42
OerHeksthen upgrade the EFIbios i guess20:42
daftykinsor yeah ^ you could risk it.20:42
daftykinsup to you really20:42
changnesiadaftykins: How big a risk is it?20:43
OerHekshow would we know..20:43
daftykinswell power failure is less relevant for a laptop, so just boot into Windows and make doubly, triply and nthly sure it's the exact model the download is for :)20:43
daftykinschangnesia: downloading any number of system information utilities (easiest example being CPU-ID from cpuid.org) can show the current BIOS version20:44
daftykins(from Windows)20:44
changnesiadaftykins: I'll try that.20:44
daftykinswell, as well as just entering it directly and checking of course :D20:45
RemobothDoes anyone remember the name of that app that has all the selectable recommended programs for a new Ubuntu INstall?20:46
wileeeRemoboth, Never seen that from the ubuntu repos, you sure this is not a third party app?20:47
ooossieeWileee, thanks. So i clone my system before any upgrade right? I will download all updates/upgrades before installing. So i can make sure i will install everything i stead of downloading and installing since in the process i can lose my connection20:47
Remobothwileee - It is a third party app. I just remembered... Called "Ubuntu AFter INstall".20:47
wileeeooossiee, Not what I suggest, but if you want to be really sure your covered an image/clone or home backed up in another partition would help. You are more worried than I would be, but I've used ubuntu a long time.20:48
xanguaRemoboth: there are several of sites and several of guides called "10 things to do after installing Ubuntu"written every six months, pick your favorite?20:48
morenociao20:49
Remobothxangua - Thanks.20:49
moreno!list20:49
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wileeeRemoboth, I would do it yourself, as suggested, a 3rd party will not be supported here if your bricked.20:49
RemobothAye.20:50
daftykinsfor what it's worth we had someone in here just the other day who had trashed their install from following one of those "10 things" guides20:50
daftykinsthey should be renamed "10 untrustworthy PPAs to contaminate your system with" for accuracy :)20:51
wileeea whole lotta ppa's20:51
wileeelol20:51
ooossieeThanks wileee20:51
wileeeooossiee, No prob, I suspect you will be okay.20:52
ooossieeThank you20:52
changnesiadaftykins: I've just acquired another usb stick, is it possible that it's not booting because of the one I've been using so far?20:52
changnesiaso maybe I could try that one before flashing the bios20:53
daftykinschangnesia: sounds like a plan, how are you preparing it?20:53
AEL-HIf I want a user to be able to execute certain server files but nothing else what is the best way to do that? At the moment I am encountering issues in that the user does not have sufficient priveleges to access the files the server files are dependent on20:53
daftykinss/it/them/20:53
daftykinsAEL-H: add that user to a group, then modify the permissions of the files they should be able to change to be owned by that group20:54
AEL-HThankyou20:54
changnesiadaftykins: I've tried many utilities. Is UUI reliable? It's the most comfortable one. I also tried win32diskimager20:54
changnesiaand some more, but I don't remember their names20:55
daftykinschangnesia: yep i've always had good success with UUI, YUMI... etc.20:55
daftykinsrufus i believe is another20:55
daftykinsof course for EFI boot, you only need the contents of the ISO extracted onto a FAT32 partition on the flash drive20:55
daftykinsno need for boot sector shenanigans at all20:56
changnesiaI see. I also tried unebootin and linux live usb creator20:56
daftykinsa long time ago unetbootin was said to have EFI issues, probably fine now but i avoid it just for historic reasons20:56
kairothank you OerHeks20:56
changnesiadaftykins: I've tried all I could find, to no avail sadly20:57
daftykinschangnesia: well something useful might be to nuke the drives before you even begin, using the windows utility 'diskpart' inside a command prompt window you can totally wipe the disks before starting which might give a different result20:57
daftykinsalso hashing the downloaded ISOs is presumably something you've done?20:58
wileeechangnesia, Have you checked for any local ubuntu groups for advice as an option, somebody physically there?20:58
ButterkeksHey I turned on KDE Accessible by accident it won't turn off even after restarting D: I click close but it comes right  back20:58
changnesiadaftykins: Done that multiple times. And by that you mean the md5 string?20:58
daftykinschangnesia: yep that's the one.20:58
jbreeding28upon loading ubuntu, I get an "ACIP PCC Proble Fail". What is this?20:59
changnesiawileee: I live in the middle of nowhere20:59
changnesiadaftykins: yes checked that20:59
daftykinsjbreeding28: if things work i wouldn't worry necessarily20:59
SednaI´m running Mate on a20:59
wileeechangnesia, Ah, you have excellent help now, it was just a thought.20:59
jbreeding28well, I can't log in20:59
Butterkekshow to turn this off i am using KDE nobody answered in #kubuntu :( http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=1315984120:59
SednaPentium 4?21:00
SednaWell.21:00
daftykinsjbreeding28: but you get to the login screen? this is after installing?21:00
jbreeding28yes. i get to the login screen, type in my password, and then a big screen comes up with a bunch of "failedtoapply"21:00
changnesiawileee: I do! I asked my friend, who is quite knowledgeable but he didn't know.21:00
daftykinsjbreeding28: this could be part of what i'd mentioned regarding needing to install graphics drivers. try the guest session too21:01
jbreeding28alright. I'm just having trouble installing the driver21:01
jbreeding28and I can't log into guest either21:02
daftykinsjbreeding28: what kind of system and what graphics hardware?21:02
jbreeding28NVIDIA Geforce GTX 970 is the card. I'm aware it has problems21:03
daftykinsand you installed what, 14.04?21:03
basedbluehey21:03
jbreeding28I have the driver file on the comnputer, but whenever I go to install it, it says I'm running an X server21:03
daftykinsjbreeding28: yes, you don't download nvidia drivers ideally with Ubuntu. they can be installed from packages with a command21:04
jbreeding28and what's that package?21:04
daftykinsjbreeding28: can i take this to mean you are comfortable with switching to the TTY and logging in there for CLI tasks?21:05
Butterkeksthx I removed it with apt-get remove kaccessible --purge dammit21:05
jbreeding28a TTY?21:05
daftykinsjbreeding28: like ctrl+alt+F121:05
jbreeding28oh, that. yes, I'm comfortable with doing that21:05
daftykinsjbreeding28: do you have a working wired network connection on that system?21:06
jbreeding28yes21:06
daftykinsjbreeding28: ok, login at the TTY and use "sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-346" then reboot21:06
jbreeding28nvidia 346? everywhere I've looked says 343 is the latest for my card21:06
greenrideIs it possible to have workspace switching operate independently on each monitor?21:07
daftykinstrust me.21:07
daftykinshrmm seems they may've removed it actually21:07
grifferrohello is there where I can come to get some help with ubuntu?21:08
jbreeding28grifferro: you are in the right place21:08
daftykinsgrifferro: yes, ask away21:08
daftykinsjbreeding28: you might have to add the xorg-edgers PPA in order to get the package.21:09
jbreeding28well, it's going well so far. if an error pops up i'll try that21:09
OerHeksthat gt970 is supported by the 343.22 driver and up. so that 346 will do.21:09
grifferroI'm tryin to get hulu working in firefox on ubuntu 14.04 but flash doesn't load. It works fine on google-chrome and flash works elsewhere in firefox21:09
ablest1980hey21:09
jbreeding28DerHeks: Thanks for the clarification21:09
daftykinsjbreeding28: was it 14.04 or 15.04 you threw on?21:09
grifferro14.0421:09
OerHeksgrifferro, known issue, only chrome works fine with flsh / DRM21:09
jbreeding2814.0421:09
grifferrodammit oh well21:10
OerHeksplease don't swear21:10
grifferrothanks though that probably spared me some fruitless searching21:10
grifferroand sorry21:10
ablest1980hello21:10
ablest1980i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/12091612/21:10
ablest1980in icedtea21:10
jbreeding28daftykinds: Thank you so much. I'm successfully in the desktop21:11
daftykinswahey \o/21:11
jbreeding28now, that ACPI PCC Probe failing, is that anything to worry about?21:11
slyrushowdy. I have an m.2 SATA card installed via a PCI card. I can see the card with, e.g., lspci, but can't see the m.2 card. do I need to map the card/device to scsi numbers somehow or should this happen automagically?21:11
daftykinsno idea, i'd only be googling21:11
jbreeding28alright. well, I guess i'll leave it since it's booting up fine21:11
bekksslyrus: Maybe you need some driver for that m.2 card.21:12
jbreeding28and while I'm guessing not, is there any way to automatically keep up to date nvidia drivers? where the updates download automatically?21:12
daftykinsnot yet - is the answer there21:12
ablest1980anyone understand this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12091612/ ?21:12
daftykinsjbreeding28: someday soon this will be useful though - http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/21:13
daftykinsablest1980: yep, it means "seek help in a java channel"21:13
ablest1980ok21:13
jbreeding28so the hope is that this'll allow automatic updates of stable NVIDIA drivers?21:14
daftykinspretty much yep.21:14
daftykinsand access to more up to date versions quicker21:14
jbreeding28can't wait for it, even though I'm not going to be using Ubuntu much21:14
ablest1980javabot> ablest1980's title: Ubuntu Pastebin21:15
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daftykinsjbreeding28: chasing version numbers really isn't all it's cracked up to be21:15
daftykinswhen i grab the latest drivers nobody hands me a beer and does the laundry21:15
jbreeding28just so long as it works?21:15
daftykins:)21:16
basedblueanyone here do javascript21:16
jbreeding28before I go, any packages for Ubuntu I should definitely get?21:16
basedbluedont go21:16
basedblueyes21:16
basedbluenpm and node... makes javascript mmore useful21:17
basedbluealso normal java is so 20 years ago21:17
jbreeding28basedblue: Hey, I like Java!21:17
daftykinsbasedblue: this is an OS support channel, not a dev channel.21:18
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changnesiaHello, so the other flash drive works! Now I cleared space for the partitions, do I choose alongside windows or something else?21:18
daftykins\o/21:19
daftykinschangnesia: depends whether you want to partition manually and do anything besides the default really (which is to have one partition with everything in, then swap beside it)21:19
basedblue09daftykins on ubuntu do u know how to get around sudo fakesu fakechoot21:19
daftykinsbasedblue: get around it? you mean you don't want to type it every time you run something?21:19
basedbluei am using cozycloud21:20
basedbluethey prevent sudo21:20
basedbluebut i was able to get some privleages with fakechoot21:20
daftykinsi don't have a clue what that is so can't comment21:20
basedbluei show u screen cap21:21
daftykinsnah that's ok21:21
daftykinsi must be off21:21
changnesiaDaftykins: well if choose something else and create root, home and swap, will that be fine? Will it still dual boot?21:21
basedbluehttp://vgy.me/B0zAf0.png21:22
daftykinschangnesia: you can safely choose 'something else', then if it puts a mention of 'EFI' besides the high up partition then it should be good. you can share a screenshot of that page if you like so we can see if it looks ok21:23
changnesiaIt put the efi to a partition that says windows boot manager21:25
daftykinscan you throw an image up on imgur.com or similar?21:26
daftykinsalt+print-screen to share only the active window for ease21:26
changnesiaIthink it's the right one, the size checks with what I saw in widows. Sure21:26
changnesiaI'll upload a photo, I'm not connected to Wi-Fi21:27
changnesiaOnthelaptop21:27
daftykinsok21:27
changnesiahttp://i.imgur.com/Mxzjgzl.jpg21:30
daftykinschangnesia: looks good, so obviously remember to make your swap file equal to/larger than your system RAM if you want to use sleep/hibernate and you'll be set21:31
changnesiaOk, great. Thank you very much guys! But if it won't work, you will hear from me again :-)21:32
intelikeyis recover from sleep/hibernate any faster that normal boot ?21:32
daftykinsi don't doubt it :)21:32
daftykinsintelikey: depends on hardware, your mileage may vary.21:32
intelikeyah yeah like fast system with lots of ram might boot faster than it recovered from sleep  and slower system with little ram would recover from sleep faster than a boot up       ?21:33
intelikeywould21:34
wileeeintelikey, Do you have a u ubuntu install?21:34
intelikeywileee not at present,21:34
intelikeyi have used ubuntu a lot.   but not lately.21:35
JackShadowFirezCan someone explain what XChat is?21:35
daftykinsan old IRC client, JackShadowFirez21:35
JackShadowFirezoh21:36
daftykins!info xchat21:36
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.8-7.3ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 311 kB, installed size 987 kB21:36
wileeeintelikey, Your going to have to test this out in the end, sleep should be an instantaneous return, hibernate takes longer, test it till you know.21:36
JackShadowFirezthx21:36
intelikeyjackshadowfirez  I,nternet R,elay C,hat   cilent21:36
intelikeywileee ok.21:36
JavaNuneshi, my server is very powerfull ,21:36
mycookieHello everyone, I was hoping to get some quick help on making an upstart script21:36
JavaNunesmy ip is 177.95.10.44 , enter using ssh, user is admin , pass is admin21:38
JavaNunesi no use firewall, my system is very secure21:38
SchrodingersScat!offtopic | JavaNunes21:38
ubottuJavaNunes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:38
basedblueu may think ur system is secure21:39
x-RageHi there21:39
basedbluemake sure ur openssl is updated21:39
intelikeyjavanunes or "go hack your self"  ;/21:39
wileeebasedblue, you see th OT right?21:39
JavaNunesmy system is powerfull basedblue21:39
bekksJavaNunes: And offtopic in here.21:39
basedblueyet my old powermac can be rooted with 1 line of code in ssh...21:39
changnesiaIs /home necessary? I have a partition for data so I wouldn't need it.21:40
wileeenot relevant21:40
JavaNunesbekks fuck you now21:40
r00terhi21:40
wileeechangnesia, Your choice, some have it for upgrades21:40
intelikeychangnesia  "necessary"  no    "default" yes21:40
mycookieCan anyone give me some quick help in upstart?21:40
r00teris someone using ubuntu mate here?21:40
basedblueur system is not secure21:40
basedblueits mac21:41
basedbluewith old version of openssl21:41
basedbluethis could be exploited with out admin pass21:41
changnesiaWileee: what use does it have for upgrades?21:41
mcphailJavaNunes: please troll elsewhere21:41
bekksbasedblue: Thats offtopic in here.21:41
r00terI need help with ubuntu mate21:41
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r00terhaha nice one :D21:42
oatsWhat kind of a bot is ubottu?21:42
wileeechangnesia, A separate home is great for a fresh install, everything there stays the same. I use backups myself and just one partition.21:42
r00terok the NoDisplay:true command seems not working on my u mate21:42
r00terwhat should I do21:42
Madelynolaaaaaaaaaa21:42
Istericosera21:42
JavaNunesbasedblue: go ubuntu-offtopic21:42
Madelyno q?21:42
x-Ragewww.zip.er.cz/WakeUP21:43
changnesiaWileee: thank you! I'll create it then, I have space to spare21:43
mycookier00ter: I always forget to mark my *.desktop files as executable21:43
basedbluedid u make me just sudo su in to a goverment box21:43
mycookier00ter: maybe that's the case?21:43
intelikey!ubottu21:43
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basedbluehttp://vgy.me/YijSYc.png21:43
wileeechangnesia, Good, your doing a manual install which is great, now you will know how. ;)21:44
r00termy cookie21:44
mycookieI'm trying to make an upstart script for powertop --auto-tune, however initctl cannot see it in my /etc/init, what am I doing wrong?21:44
GerowenDoes EXT4 support expanded file permissions besides the basic "user group other" model?  For example can I add multiple groups with different permission levels to a single folder?21:45
bekksGerowen: ext4 supports ACL.21:45
changnesiaWileee: I prefer to set it up myself as much as I can. :-)21:45
bekksGerowen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs21:45
wileee;)21:45
Gerowenbekks: Thanks, :-)21:46
mycookieHere is my powetop.conf for upstart, file name is /etc/init/powertop.conf. initctl cannot see it! http://paste.ubuntu.com/12091915/21:46
r00tercookie21:47
basedblueis this some area51 ssh box21:47
basedbluehttp://vgy.me/LDN3U1.png21:47
r00terThis is this error I get sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `�'21:48
bekks!ot | basedblue21:48
ubottubasedblue: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:48
shabonix_Quick Question for anyone here at the moment...Currently not happy with windows 10 and all the tracking, etc that they are doing. Want to switch to ubuntu...I have two drives in my system. Boot Drive is an ssd with windows install and the other is a 500gb storage drive. Would moving files over to the storage drive, erasing boot drive, installing ubuntu, then mounting the storage drive into ubuntu be a good way of installing? Thanks.21:55
bekksshabonix_: You dont need to erase a drive, you can just repartition it during install.21:56
shabonix_Even if I wanted to encrypt it?21:56
bekksSure.21:56
bekksshabonix_: But you cannot encrypt your storage drive during installation.21:57
shabonix_Appreciate the help bekks!21:58
intelikeyhow can root get this error   mkdir: cannot create directory '/mnt/sdc2_10g_mini-sd': Input/output error22:04
bekksintelikey: Most likely by a corrupted filesystem or damaged hardware.22:04
intelikeynothing mounted on /mnt   and  / is mounted ... sort of normally ...  da1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)22:05
bekksintelikey: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" please?22:06
bekks!pastebinit | intelikey22:06
ubottuintelikey: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com22:06
AEL-HI am having some problems with skype picking up the microphone and speakers, I am not very well versed in the realms of audio in linux -- does anyone know what the problem might be?22:08
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intelikeybekks umm you wouldnt want all of that.  maybe pipe it though tail    but there is nothing about that or sda*   it ends with errors on sdb1  a fat issue...   but not related, and i don't see anything above it that looks interesting.      i'll reboot and fsck the hd22:09
bekksintelikey: I am sure I want the entire output.22:10
intelikeyhehhhe   no  you dont'22:10
bekksI do. It's just you who dont want to give the information request.22:10
bekks*requested.22:10
derek01hey everyone, got a issue with lightdm greeter. When logging in to my normall used account it loops back to the greeter, and spitting errors about .face not being there22:14
derek01Oh I just upgraded to 15.04 from 14.1022:15
LimberianIt's not an ubuntu question but if anyone has any opinion I'd love to hear it: My graphic card's fan doesn't work so I bought a desk fan for a 5$ and put it in front of the graphic card. Will it prevent shutdowns caused by heat? :P22:15
hoechtshi, i reinstalled ubuntu, and now my raid cant be found via mdadm --assemble --scan22:19
hoechtswhat could be the problem?22:19
bekkshoechts: The disks can still be found?22:20
hoechtsbekks, yes via gparted and/or disks22:20
FourFireHi, I did a dumbdumb with this system and am wondering how to fix it22:20
derek01hey everyone, got a issue with lightdm greeter. When logging in to my normall used account it loops back to the greeter, and spitting errors about .face not being there22:21
FourFireI attempted to install the 4.1.0 kernel on my (installed as) 15.0422:21
derek01just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.0422:21
wileeeFourFire, boot the previous kernel from ubuntu and remove it.22:22
hoechtsbekks, any hints?22:22
daftykinsLimberian: it's unlikely to be too effective, often you can get compatible heatsink + fan combo replacements to fit to a matching card, often with 'arctic cooling' branding, but you may even be ok just screwing a small appropriately sized fan on top. But yeah, ##hardware would be more apt22:22
FourFirehowever what I actually installed was the linux_headers[...]_all.deb and linux_headers[...]_i386.deb22:22
bekkshoechts: using sudo fdisk -l, do the disks have correct labels?22:22
FourFirenow the system on the latest kernel's session freezes whenever I try to do apt anything22:23
FourFireI am booted into 3.19 now22:23
FourFirehow to remove it?22:23
hoechtsbekks, "the tool fdisk doesnt support GPT"22:23
bekksFourFire: How did you install it?22:23
bekkshoechts: So use gdisk22:24
* FourFire should have just followed the guide instead of doing a dist-upgrade from memory22:24
wileeeFourFire, Did it get installed no errors, and you see it in a update-grub22:24
FourFirebekks, got the three (i thought correct) files from kernel.ubuntu and opened them in order with software center22:24
FourFireno22:24
FourFirethe seesion froze durng installation'22:25
FourFireand i had to force reboot the system22:25
FourFireit's been ... unusable since (well the last kernel version)22:25
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Guest61317kj l,m.,22:25
LimberianWhere can I find any tutorial or good customization stuff for ubuntu?22:25
FourFire3.19 works fine but it has that terrible SSD problem, and my system is on Samsung 850s22:25
jjavaholichow can I tell if I have a uefi enabled ubuntu disc or not?22:25
daftykinsjjavaholic: it'll be 12.04.2+22:26
jjavaholicthere isn't a 15.04 uefi disc?22:27
bekksjjavaholic: yes, there is.22:27
daftykinsjjavaholic: i'm saying any version newer than 12.04.2 will be fine22:27
hoechtsbekks, what do you actually mean with "correct labels"?22:27
wileeejjavaholic, the wiki address uefi on dvd's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:28
bekkshoechts: did you use partitions or the entire disks for your raid?22:28
hoechtsbekks, i guess i used the whole disk, but im not sure22:28
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FourFirebekks, is there any more information i can provide to help?22:29
bekksjust open your package manager and uninstall the packages you installed formerly.22:30
FourFireok, trying now22:30
FourFireok it says configuribng headers22:30
FourFirefor 4.122:30
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FourFireand I got a bug wearning22:31
FourFirereported it as i might crash momentarily22:31
FourFireah bug is related to nvidia-driver something22:32
FourFireah, I think i suspect what might be the problem with the session freeze22:32
FourFireI have the very new Intel 5th gen desktop i5 with the silly graphics, there might be a problem with the graphics stack in the 4.1 kernel and it's less of a problem with the nvidia driver22:33
FourFirelast when i had these problems I didn't have my card in22:33
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FourFireThanks for the help, I'll attempt to boot into my new kernel now22:36
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AbuDharlibreoffice is not launching.22:48
AbuDhar:s22:48
AbuDharwith no errors22:51
AbuDharkilled the process and relaunched.. works now lol22:51
yesimonAnybody know why the pip package in python-pip is so old?22:51
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tnkhanhhi22:55
erkan^which retricited extra is for Ubuntu Mate?22:58
wileeeerkan^, it is a codec package..etc for all de.22:58
wileeeubuntu-restricted-extras   sorry22:59
erkan^I see: Ubuntu - Kubuntu - Lubuntu - Xubuntu, but Mate?22:59
wileeeerkan^, They are basically the same22:59
erkan^ah ok thx wil22:59
erkan^wileee22:59
wileeeno prob, you will see an ok for ms fonts as well23:00
erkan^hihi, I like "Verdana" :)23:00
wileee;) yoh comic sans23:00
erkan^haha23:01
kiwiirc09324I am trying to install wifi on my Asus x205ta, and when i enter the following line it says that the nvram-74xxxxxxx file can not be found.  cp /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/nvram-74b00bd9-805a-4d61-b51f-43268123d113 /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.txt23:07
jbreeding28Does anyone have any idea why/how restarting a computer from Ubuntu into Windows would screw up the Windows clock?23:07
OerHekswindows uses localtime, ubuntu utc LoLz23:10
OerHekssolution is here on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime23:10
daftykinsjbreeding28: ^ UTC and non-UTC23:10
OerHekschange ubutnu to utc ..23:10
jbreeding28I just did some research on that myself.23:10
daftykinsi guess you're ending 1hr out23:10
OerHekserr windows to utc23:11
jbreeding28also, after restarting ubuntu, it tosses up an error where the computer doesn't recognize the mouse. Power cycling solves it, but do you have any general solution for it?23:11
OerHeksso you asked about time, got the answer already ...23:12
OerHeksjbreeding28, before i answer your question, did you have the answer already too ?23:12
daftykinsjbreeding28: as in a shutdown and cold boot of the system - or replugging the rodent?23:12
mlneeHello, I'm trying to install Lubuntu 12.04 on a PowerMac G5. Would the "nv" or the "fbdev" driver be the best option (speed-wise).23:13
jbreeding28shutdown and cold boot still leaves the error. I have to turn off the power supply and restart it to make it work23:13
OerHeksmlnee, not sure if nv nouveau works better https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#fbdev23:17
daftykinsjbreeding28: and this doesn't happen to Windows?23:17
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jbreeding28correct. When I boot into Ubuntu, it tosses up some errors about not recognizing USB devices23:19
daftykinsjbreeding28: a pastebin of "dmesg" might be handy to chase that one23:19
daftykinswhat kind of machine was this again? brand wise23:19
mlneeI have read that I should try fbdev as a last resort, thats why I am unsure23:19
jbreeding28it says "couldn't allocate usb_device"23:20
jbreeding28this is a custom computer23:20
daftykinssorry but piecemeal pastes won't really be of any use23:20
daftykinsmlnee: what's that thing got? nvidia?23:20
mlneeMaybe I should try to get "nouveau" to work ,then try compiling "nv" and if that fails "fbdev"23:21
mlneeyes23:21
mlneeA gforce fx 520023:21
jbreeding28alright. well, for some reason it seems to have stopped now. Once it didn't even throw up the error, and even when it did, I was able to restart no problem23:21
daftykinsmlnee: the nvidia module hasn't been called 'nv' for a long time, if ever (i don't even remember)23:21
jbreeding28so it appears to have fixed itself somehow23:21
daftykinsjbreeding28: latest BIOS i take it?23:22
OerHeksthere are no prop drivers for PPC, according to the manual.23:22
mlneewell, its supposed to be the old driver23:22
daftykinsyeah PPC's pretty museum status now, community only support i think23:23
jbreeding28yep. and this computer is brand new. I only got the componenets about a month ago23:23
daftykinsdoesn't mean there aren't often day one updates :)23:24
jbreeding28I'm aware of that. I've updated everything, I'm sure of it.23:24
jbreeding28it's probably a case of correlation not implying causation, but once I fixed the clock issue, it suddenly resolved.23:24
mlneedaftykins: Man, this machine weights a ton and sounds like a jet turbine :)23:25
daftykinsmlnee: :)23:25
daftykinsis that down to bad temps o0 surely something Apple would be whisper quiet23:25
jbreeding28scratch that. device descriptor errors just popped up.23:26
jbreeding28daftykins: My keyboard and mouse are made by Razer, and they currently have no official Linux support. Is that possibly the reason?23:27
daftykinswell for what it's worth, i own a razer deathadder mouse and i run it on the latest (last) firmware they released23:28
daftykinsso as long as you're in a USB 2.0 port that's all i can really think of.23:28
jbreeding28I could be in a USB 3.0 port. let me check23:28
jbreeding28yeah they're plugged into usb 3.0 SS. Do I need some drivers for that?23:30
daftykinsno you need to avoid that :)23:30
daftykins2.0 only i'd say for peripherals23:30
jbreeding28alright. it does have two 2.0 ports.23:30
jbreeding28does ubuntu have issues with 3.0?23:31
daftykinsno, peripherals in general have issues with USB 3 controllers23:31
jbreeding28alright. well, i've had no issues with windows23:31
daftykinsmore mature drivers23:31
jbreeding28I can't wait until we scratch USB as it is now and just get to USB-C23:31
daftykinsit's been a horrible interface since its' inception :)23:32
jbreeding28although it has done a lot for standardization23:32
jbreeding28daftykins: Could have been worse. We could have been stuck with FireWire23:33
daftykinsnah that'd never have happened23:33
jbreeding28so why is it peripherals still have problems with USB 3 when it was released in 2010?23:34
derek01hey everyone, got a issue with lightdm greeter. When logging in to my normall used account it loops back to the greeter, and spitting errors about .face not being there23:35
derek01just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.0423:35
jbreeding28daftykins: Regardless, switching them to 2.0 seems to have resolved the issue.23:36
derek01it also seems all other users work, just not mine23:36
daftykinsa discussion on the ins and outs of USB on Linux would be off topic i'm afraid - and i'd not be able to answer :)23:37
jbreeding28alright. I wasn't really epecting an answer. Just food for thought.23:37
mlneeHello again. There is no need for 3d acceleration when running Lubuntu (basic stuff, no games no nothing), right?23:37
daftykinsderek01: ah yes - #1 i'd check for any files in your ~ not owned by your user23:37
daftykinsmlnee: nope, though if you went near anything web like pepperflash plugin things or HTML5 in chrome or firefox you might run into slowdown, i'd just see how you go23:38
mlneedaftykins: thanks once again!23:38
daftykins^_^23:38
jbreeding28mlnee: I had a similar issue with Linux Mint, because it had no drivers for my card. Basic stuff is fine, but firefox or anything like that, it'll be really slow23:39
derek01daftykins: that did it. why didnt I think of that lol Thanks man!23:39
daftykinsderek01: :) no problemo23:40
daftykinsi feel bad for not answering earlier now23:40
AbuDhardoes ubuntu have spyware?23:41
mlneeAbuDhar: not really23:42
jbreeding28AbuDhar: Let me guess, freaked out by the new privacy stuff in Windows 10?23:43
daftykinsthat would be off topic.23:43
AbuDharmlnee, I heard some guys in #linux say that23:43
AbuDharUbuntu has spyware23:44
daftykinsprobably just some tinfoil hat wearing folk.23:44
AbuDharI know about the amazon thing.. :/23:44
jbreeding28AbuDhar: What daftykins said.23:44
xangua!fud23:44
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt23:44
jbreeding28AbuDhar: Google does more data mining from you than Ubuntu ever has or ever will.23:45
daftykinsagain, lets try and keep the focus on Ubuntu please :)23:46
AbuDharI see.23:46
jbreeding28daftykins: It was just an analogy!23:46
AbuDharwhat's up with the win 10 privacy issues ?23:47
jbreeding28AbuDhar: Not appropriate for here. Just google it and find out all about it.23:47
daftykinsAbuDhar: Windows chat is not permitted here23:47
AbuDharbut amazon does not have a keylogger right? I was told to turn it off when I installed Ubuntu the first time.23:48
AbuDharjust confirm that it's not true23:48
jbreeding28AbuDhar: Are you planning on using the Amazon program at all?23:48
AbuDharNo23:48
jbreeding28Then what's the problem?23:49
AbuDharbut they are installed by default.23:49
daftykins!privacy23:49
daftykinsdamn.23:49
xangua!adlens23:49
ubottuTo hide online search results in Ubuntu Unity, go to System Settings > Security and Privacy > Search and toggle the option off.23:49
daftykinsthat's the one, ty xangua :)23:50
AbuDharI don't use Unity. :)23:50
yeatsAbuDhar: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html is probably what they're referring to, but calling it "spyware" is pretty inflamatory23:50
AbuDharI am using Gnome 323:50
daftykinsAbuDhar: even less relevant then23:50
yeatsAbuDhar: and this channel is more for technical support than this kind of discussion23:50
yeatsAbuDhar: yeah, if you're not using Unity, there's not an issue at all23:51
AbuDharfine then!23:51
AbuDharas long as I can remain calm.23:51
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