[00:31] <R0B_ROD> Can I just run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg with my partition sd6 mounted and grun will find my other OS and make a boot entry or is there more?
[00:33] <R0B_ROD> although I dont see the grub menu by default with xubuntu
[01:06] <Jumpman> How do I make the xchat irc icon go away on the tray?
[01:09] <drc> Time to quit for the day...it's getting really lame in here.
[05:02] <martysia> hiya
[05:03] <martysia> my issue is: no network manager, no automatic wifi detection (it showed a prompt when system booted that there are networks available and I need to use the network manager to choose the network but there is no network manager)
[05:04] <martysia> and there is a problem because the logging off or switching off button in the system doesn't work
[05:04] <martysia> I need to witch my computer off using the button on the computer itself when I want to stop using Xubuntu
[05:25] <Unit193> martysia: Do you have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed?  Is this a strange setup of Xubuntu?
[05:27] <martysia> where do I check that?
[05:27] <martysia> it's really messed up I think
[05:27] <martysia> because before I had Ubuntu
[05:27] <martysia> and since there were problems with it
[05:27] <martysia> I have installed a XFce on Ubuntu
[05:27] <martysia> but there were still some issues with that
[05:28] <martysia> so one guy on polish ubuntu channel
[05:28] <martysia> instructed me on how to install Xubuntu
[05:28] <martysia> instead of Ubuntu Xfce
[05:28] <martysia> on running system
[05:28] <martysia> using the command line
[05:28] <martysia> and then...
[05:28] <martysia> everything was fine
[05:29] <martysia> but then I changed the ISP
[05:29] <martysia> and now the network manager doens't work
[17:27] <ScottDallas> is there a good general linux chat?
[17:27] <knome> ##linux ?
[17:28]  * ScottDallas gives thumbs up emoji
[17:31] <ToeTag> #linuxdistrocommunity
[17:32] <ScottDallas> cool! thanks I'm checking that out too
[17:33] <ToeTag> no prob
[17:38] <xubuntu50w> hi, I'm new to Xubuntu as of yesterday, things are good except for my CD-DVD R&W.... it worked in Windows 7...?
[17:39] <ToeTag> xubuntu50w, when you insert a cd, what happens (if anything)
[17:39] <xubuntu50w> nothing..!
[17:40] <ToeTag> xubuntu50w, does any cd icon show up on your desktop?
[17:40] <xubuntu50w> no sir, it did, then it disapeared...
[17:40] <ToeTag> xubuntu50w, did you install from CD/DVD or usb?
[17:40] <xubuntu50w> usb
[17:41] <Cdrom> Hello guys I m having some troubles installing xubuntu dual booted with win 7.  I follow a guide on how to install win 7 first and then I got the basic knowledge on how to use gparted
[17:41] <ToeTag> when you re-insert a cd, does the drive appear to be mechanically working? any spinning inside, lights flashing outside?
[17:41] <Cdrom> But after I create the partitions gparted doesn't read the sda1 and 2 of Windows
[17:42] <Cdrom> Can anybody help me?
[17:42] <xubuntu50w> yes it seems to be..
[17:42] <ToeTag> Cdrom, can you put a link for the instructions you've been following, and tell me where you got stuck
[17:43] <ToeTag> xubuntu50w, when you re-insert the CD/DVD, does it show up for a moment on the desktop and then disappear or was that just the first time
[17:43] <xubuntu50w> ToeTag, I ran the inxi -Fx to create hardware list, its not listed in the printout..
[17:44] <xubuntu50w> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/first-xubuntu#TOC-Install-missing-drivers-and-firmware... didnt get stuck...
[17:45] <ToeTag> xubuntu50w, oh sorry i was referring to that other person that asked a question about the instructions she/he was using
[17:45] <mrkramps> xubuntu50w, can you show us after inserting the cd the output of 'dmesg | tail' in a pastebin
[17:45] <Cdrom> Yes I got stuck at the end of partition creations
[17:45] <Cdrom> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-xubuntu.html
[17:46] <xubuntu50w> hang on a sec..
[17:47] <ToeTag> Cdrom, do you already have windows installed?
[17:47] <Cdrom> As I was saying gparted has problems reading devsda1 and 2
[17:47] <Cdrom> Yes I have
[17:47] <Cdrom> I just reinstalled it after format
[17:48] <martysia> why does the network manager not detecting the wifi's available?
[17:48] <martysia> do I always need to ad my wifi manually?
[17:48] <ToeTag> Cdrom, great. Okay one important part of this article he leaves out is that he already 'made space' for the linux install - do you know if your hard disk has some 'unallocated' space for the linux install?
[17:49] <Cdrom> Yes it has....  256, 78 gbs
[17:49] <xubuntu50w> got a screen from Parole Media Player, also error: GStreamer backend error-"Could not initialise Xv output....."
[17:49] <ToeTag> Cdrom, great- what happens when you open gparted
[17:50] <Cdrom> It happens that it reads devsda1 with 100 mb,  system required, boot
[17:50] <ToeTag> Cdrom, not other partitions are shown under "partition" column?
[17:50] <Cdrom> And devsda2 with a space of 2xx gb plus unallocated of 256
[17:51] <Cdrom> Yes sorry I wrote it in 2 times
[17:51] <ToeTag> Cdrom, it sounds like you should be fine to install your linux onto /dev/sda2
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[17:52] <mrkramps> xubuntu50w, yes
[17:52] <Cdrom> Mmmm the problem is that when gparted finishes creating the partitions a lot of errors occur
[17:53] <Cdrom> And appears a red simple near the two first partitions
[17:53] <ToeTag> Cdrom, I can probably find you some better instructions than this article. Have you done a linux install before?
[17:53] <Cdrom> On ether thing when I boot xubuntu CD it appears :ACC probe, failed
[17:53] <Cdrom> No,  first time for me
  got a screen from Parole Media Player, also error: GStreamer backend error-"Could not initialise Xv output....."
[17:54] <ToeTag> Cdrom, okay so if something goes wrong here, will you be able to re-install windows?
[17:54] <Cdrom> Yes
[17:54] <ToeTag> okay great, so, you just might need a few tries, but once you get it, it will make so much more sense
[17:54] <ToeTag> let me try to find you some more simple instructions that will be a little cleaner
[17:55] <Cdrom> Thank you very much
[17:55] <ToeTag> Cdrom, do you know how to resize partitions inside of windows?
[17:55] <ToeTag> have you done it before
[17:55] <Cdrom> Yes I do
[17:55] <mrkramps> xubuntu50w, i never ask for screen or parole media player
[17:55] <mrkramps> *asked
[17:56] <xubuntu50w> I'm new to Xubuntu as of yesterday, I had Ubuntu, DVD didnt work in it wither
[17:56] <xubuntu50w> sorry, *either
[17:56] <mrkramps> and i never asked for the story of your life
[17:57] <Cdrom> Yes toetqg
[17:57] <Cdrom> Toetag
[17:57] <mrkramps> just show us the output of 'dmesg | tail' after inserting a cd/dvd
[17:57] <ToeTag> Cdrom, in the interest of time/learning - I would try to *install* xubuntu right now (don't worry about using gparted)
[17:57] <Cdrom> Ok
[17:57] <ToeTag> Cdrom, so this would mean: reboot, and then ask questions if you run into any on the installer
[17:58] <Cdrom> I just did
[17:58] <Cdrom> Ok
[17:58] <xubuntu50w> james@james-GA-A75M-UD2H:~$ dmesg | tail [ 2768.316515] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:08:2e:5f:8a:fb:fd:08:00 SRC=192.243.25.90 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2  [ 2809.530130] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=33:33:00:00:00:01:00:0c:42:07:71:37:86:dd SRC=fe80:0000:0000:0000:020c:42ff:fe07:7137 DST=ff02:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001 LEN=177 TC=0 HOPLIMIT=1 FLOWLBL=0 PROTO=UDP SPT=5678
[17:58] <Cdrom> Another thing
[17:59] <Cdrom> I don't find gparted in system,  admin etc I find it by typing in terminal sudo g parted
[17:59] <ToeTag> Cdrom, are you booted into the live cd?
[17:59] <Cdrom> Yes
[18:00] <ToeTag> Cdrom, yeah, it's in the menu, I think it's under 'settings' which is kind of confusing since it is an application
[18:00] <Cdrom> Ok
[18:00] <ToeTag> hopefully you won't need to use gparted
[18:00] <ToeTag> the installer has its own partitioning tool
[18:01] <ToeTag> and if you have free space on the hard disk, and windows is bootable, you should be fine
[18:01] <Cdrom> So direct install instead of gparted?
[18:01] <ToeTag> Cdrom, yes
[18:02] <ToeTag> but during the install be on the lookout for the step where it asks how to do the install
[18:02] <ToeTag> it will give you some options
[18:02] <ToeTag> like "replace current operating system"
[18:02] <ToeTag> "install alongside...."
[18:02] <ToeTag> etc
[18:02] <ToeTag> you'll want to install alongside
[18:03] <Cdrom> Ok it s still charging I tell you asap
[18:03] <Cdrom> Ok i selected it and go for it
[18:04] <ToeTag> okay if this doesn't work I found you some better instructions too
[18:05] <Cdrom> Ok just wrote name,  pc. Name etc I ll let you know asap
[18:05] <ToeTag> Cdrom, I know this is a pain to deal with if you are new to it - but once you get the hang of it - all of this resizing, partitioning, MBR/GPT, formatting stuff gets a lot easier
[18:05] <ToeTag> and you'll get a lot more comfortable doing installs and such
[18:06] <ScottDallas> it messes with my brain seeing people talking to Cdrom, I picture the hardware
[18:06] <Cdrom> Ok
[18:07] <ScottDallas> and yes, I second what ToeTag says
[18:07] <ToeTag> it was just completely mysterious to me when i first installed linux
[18:07] <ToeTag> i don't know if ubuntu still provides wubi
[18:07] <ScottDallas> is wubi a boot manager?
[18:07] <ToeTag> it was this utility that you could just run inside of windows and it would do everything for you
[18:07] <ScottDallas> ooooh
[18:07] <ToeTag> it would do all the partitioning, install, mbr stuf
[18:08] <ToeTag> stuff*
[18:08] <ToeTag> yeah it was a nice entry point for real newcomers
[18:08] <ScottDallas> I like doing it manually, being in control so I know exactly what file space to expect
[18:08] <ScottDallas> that makes sense though
[18:08] <ScottDallas> I've always felt, give linux less than Windows cause Linux can see Windows but not the other way around
[18:09] <ToeTag> Yeah these days I'm mosly using VMs (using a mac due to software needs) but I would do the same
[18:09] <Cdrom> Installer crashed
[18:09] <ToeTag> cdrom did you get any error message?
[18:10] <ScottDallas> Mac does vmware the best! You rockin fusion? Crap that sucks Cdrom, did you already cover what system you're trying to install xubuntu on?
[18:11] <ToeTag> yeah vmware fusion. I'd rather only use Xubuntu natively but for music stuff I need the mac so this is 2nd best
[18:11] <Cdrom> I did not specified any error but at the end of the report it says it may refer to the disk where I m installing to
[18:12] <Cdrom> It*
[18:12] <ToeTag> Cdrom,
[18:12] <ToeTag> okay - no worries
[18:12] <ToeTag> it may take a few tries
[18:12] <ToeTag> It might be good to re-install windows from scratch
[18:12] <ToeTag> and use *the whole* hard disk
[18:13] <ScottDallas> negative (imho)
[18:13] <ScottDallas> The windows install is a great place to prep your disk for a second OS
[18:13] <Cdrom> Mmmm yes I already did it
[18:13] <ToeTag> he's already been inside of gparted and I have no idea what got changed
[18:13] <Cdrom> I followed that guideline
[18:13] <ToeTag> or what condition the partitions are in
[18:14] <ScottDallas> That is odd, makes me think you have hardware that just isn't happy about xubuntu... Sometimes I spend a lot of time downloading linux OS' to discover what works on my particular hardware
[18:14] <Cdrom> Mmmmm anyway did you miss the part when I told you it says probe failed at the boot?  Or is it just a minor thing?
[18:14] <ScottDallas> I've had good luck with xubuntu, fedora, and opensuse
[18:14] <ToeTag> Cdrom, I did not see that
[18:14] <ToeTag> could also be significant
[18:15] <Cdrom> Yeah Scott I m trying xubuntu because I have to change my actual PC
[18:15] <Cdrom> And I t can t run a good version of Ubuntu
[18:15] <ToeTag> Cdrom, i would direct you to http://linux.about.com/od/LinuxNewbieDesktopGuide/ss/The-Ultimate-Windows-7-And-Ubuntu-Linux-Dual-Boot-Guide.htm#showall
[18:15] <ToeTag> you can ignore things like backing up windows (since you have a fresh install anyways)
[18:16] <ToeTag> but the idea is that you shouldn't have to use gparted in the process
[18:16] <ToeTag> in my opinion, using it will just be more new stuff to learn and more confusing at this point
[18:16] <ToeTag> Cdrom, another potential hang up is that sometimes downloads can get corrupted
[18:17] <Cdrom> Mmm ok,  but I spent some hours learning and I should be fine with that
[18:17] <ToeTag> so, if in this process you can't get things to work, it's worth verifying your xubuntu iso
[18:17] <ToeTag> (which is another thing to learn about)
[18:17] <Cdrom> I verified it when I downloaded
[18:17] <ToeTag> other than that, all of the instructions that you will need should be in that article
[18:18] <ToeTag> oh okay cool md5?
[18:18] <Cdrom> Ok
[18:18] <ToeTag> and that article is for ubuntu, but they use the same installer as xubuntu it will look almost identical
[18:19] <Cdrom> Ok i ll try to use it
[18:21] <Cdrom> Thank you very much for all informations,  dinner time for me,  I ll let you know,  bye.
[18:21] <ToeTag> take care
[18:22] <xubuntu50w> still here waiting..?
[18:23] <ToeTag> xubuntu50w, did you put in a blank cd?
[18:23] <ToeTag> or something like an audio cd?
[18:24] <xubuntu50w> tried audio, now trying DVD movie
[18:25] <mrkramps> xubuntu50w, have you installed all codecs?
[18:25] <xubuntu50w> got no idea..?
[18:25] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-addons
[18:26] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[18:26] <mrkramps> sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[18:26] <ToeTag> yeah, and i would also just do $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-*
[18:27] <ToeTag> then then reboot and try again
[18:27] <ToeTag> i don't know if your install instructions got to the point of updating the new system yet
[18:28] <xubuntu50w> I did 1 @ at time, very slowly with all 10...thats all I know...
[18:28] <xubuntu50w> Y
[18:29] <xubuntu50w> got to reboot now...
[18:29] <ToeTag> yep
[18:29] <ScottDallas> is he having trouble with video/audio codecs?
[18:30] <mrkramps> ScottDallas, he originally asked because of issues with his cd/dvd drive
[18:30] <ToeTag> yeah that's a strange problem to troubleshoot - he said cds were showing up on his desktop briefly and then disappearing
[18:31] <ToeTag> I've never experienced anything like that that wasn't hardware related
[18:31] <mrkramps> probably his drive's just broken
[18:31] <mrkramps> dunno how old his pc is
[18:32] <ToeTag> right
[18:34] <ScottDallas> reminds me of the usb cd rom drive i wanna buy on amazon, was checking driver support, haven't bouht it yet.. but if it always worked, then the internal hardware would be irrelevant until after it has been spoken for by the user
[18:35] <ToeTag> I've been really lucky - haven't ever had any nasty surprise unsupported devices on linux
[18:35] <ScottDallas> that's incredibly lucky, not even wifi?
[18:36] <ToeTag> I have a little TP-Link usb wifi antenna that i got for kali linux and it works fine on linux but no support on my mac :D
[18:37] <ScottDallas> kali! i almost forgot how well kali worked on my acer aspire one
[18:37] <ScottDallas> THAT'S what i should do with my acer aspire one
[18:38] <ToeTag> yeah. I'll tell you...kali linux was one of the snappiest distros I ever installed on a lenovo netbook i had
[18:38] <ToeTag> I don't know how....but I swear it ran faster than debian with xfce
[18:38] <mrkramps> hrhrhr
[18:38] <mrkramps> NEVER!
[18:38] <ToeTag> and the kali was a regular gnome-classic type desktop
[18:38] <ScottDallas> wow you went lenovo with it! That's my favorite brand. Other than my stellar home build desktop, I'm all lenovo/thinkpad
[18:38] <ToeTag> super mysterious but it was awesome
[18:39] <ToeTag> yeah netbooks were the best
[18:39] <ToeTag> i'm so sad they are on the way out
[18:39] <mrkramps> ToeTag, would you mind telling me the chipset of your tp-link stick?
[18:39] <ScottDallas> I admittedly tried Kali because I have the alfa network card and I was dating this girl that lived in the boonies and couldn't get cell or internet signal so I used Kali to monitor network in her area and see if we could use airng to crack a WEP. The results were negative lol
[18:39] <ScottDallas> But still, I could see so far away it was awesome compared to what Win XP could see
[18:41] <ToeTag> sure thing mrkramps let me get it - it works REALLY well and was super cheap
[18:41] <ToeTag> yeah ScottDallas those things are a trip
[18:42] <ToeTag> mrkramps, I believe it's Atheros AR9002U
[18:44] <mrkramps> thanks
[18:49] <ToeTag> no problem - pretty cheap, small, works great
[18:51] <martysia> hello, my Xubuntu doesn't close itself when choosing the log -off or shut-down option on the system
[18:52] <martysia> I need to close the computer using the button on it
[18:52] <martysia> any ideas what to do?
[18:52] <ToeTag> martysia, what happens when you choose shut down from the menu?
[18:53] <martysia> nothing
[18:53] <martysia> happens
[18:53] <martysia> but when I try to do it again...
[18:53] <martysia> the error message pops up
[18:54] <martysia> and says that it is still running and busy
[18:54] <ToeTag> martysia, is this a new install?
[18:54] <martysia> nopes
[18:54] <martysia> not that new
[18:54] <ToeTag> does it say *what* is running/busy?
[18:54] <martysia> I have installed it maybe 3 months ago
[18:56] <martysia> ok, the logging off option worked now
[18:56] <martysia> I will try to shut down
[19:00] <martysia> wow, unbelievable, it works now
[19:01] <ToeTag> martysia, just for general troubleshooting if I get errors i like to make sure the system is updated/rebooted
[19:01] <ToeTag> and i've had little strange things like that pop up that seemed to be taken care of with a logoff/logon or a reboot
[19:02] <martysia> yeah, but I've tried shutting it down many times and it always didn't work
[19:02] <martysia> but this time I have logged off first
[19:02] <ToeTag> weird
[19:02] <martysia> and
[19:02] <martysia> I have fixed my internet connection (the network manager) before that
[19:02] <martysia> so could that be the reason?
[19:03] <martysia> people from #ubuntu-pl helped me
[19:03] <ToeTag> well, it sounded like some process was hanging
[19:03] <ToeTag> could be
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[22:19] <joey_> how do you uninstall flash
[22:19] <joey_> in firefox
[22:21] <Unit193> You puuuurge the paaaackage.