[00:00] <clivejo> I know, but thats as confusing as the message !
[07:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:18] <clivejo> yodel: thanks for pushing and rebuilding akonadi-search, Im not sure what W: akonadi-search source: intra-source-package-circular-dependency libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 means or how to fix it!
[10:20] <clivejo> yofel: sorry again about the spelling :/
[10:21] <lordievader> Tab completion for the win ;)
[10:22] <clivejo> lordievader: that would be too logical
[10:22] <lordievader> y<tab> couldn't be easier ;)
[10:23] <clivejo> my brain is a strange thing
[10:23] <clivejo> wont take the easy route in some cases
[10:24] <clivejo> the easiest route in this case is for yofel to change his name :P
[10:34] <soee> hmm 50 min review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfqRwAtV3W0
[10:51] <clivejo> who made that soee?
[10:56] <soee> clivejo: The Linux Homefront 
[10:56] <soee> i do not kno them :)
[10:56] <clivejo> oh, 3rd party
[11:00] <clivejo> the community should make youtube clips for beginners, howto do basic jobs on Kubuntu
[11:00] <soee> yes, its known topic 
[11:07] <mparillo> There is a Kubuntu Podcast Team. They do good work.
[11:08] <mparillo> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/107577785796696065138/112102796730023795852/videos
[11:08] <clivejo> but I think short precise clips on an offical channel would be good
[11:09] <clivejo> dealing with the "paper cuts" windows user experience
[11:15] <mparillo> I bet if you nominate a paper cut, and they have a way to address it, they would be happy to do a little video on it.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:37] <yofel> clivejo: the circular dep is really meant literally: libkf5akonadisearch-plugins depends on libkf5akonadisearchxapian5, which depends on libkf5akonadisearchcore5, which depends on libkf5akonadisearch-plugins, which depends on libkf5akonadisearchxapian5, which ...
[12:40] <yofel> the only really way to "fix" this, is demoting one piece of the chain to a recommends
[12:45] <clivejo> yofel: is that by design or a mistake?
[12:47] <yofel> it's a modelling issue. The lib isn't very useful without any plugins, so it depends on them. In turn, the plugins use code from the lib, so the have to depend on it
[12:48] <yofel> which is why you find plugins just bundled with the lib in other packages
[12:48] <yofel> splitting them is theoretically cleaner, but creates problems like this
[13:41] <yofel> interesting braindump from debconf: https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/cme
[13:42] <yofel> can even edit dpkg files, e.g. "cme edit dpkg-control debian/control"
[13:42] <yofel> but I can't really get it to work..
[13:44] <yofel> at least not for editing, it's nice for viewing an verifying the syntax
[13:47] <soee> can someone confirm that toays updates brings new bluez and wants to remove bluez-alsa ?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> soee:  didn't see any on Wily 
[14:37] <clivejo> there was some bluez stuff over this past few days
[14:37] <clivejo> only update for me today was filezillia
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ok soee, just got this 
[14:40] <BluesKaj> The following packages will be upgraded:  bluez-cups bluez-obexd libbluetooth3
[14:43] <clivejo> anyone on the devel mailing list seeing my emails?
[14:46] <mparillo> clivejo: I have seen one: A merge request with two URLs to paste.ubuntu.com.
[14:46] <clivejo> ah thanks mparillo
[14:46] <clivejo> have there been no others?
[14:47] <ScottK> that's the only one I saw too.
[14:47] <mparillo> No others that I recall.
[14:47] <clivejo> any emails from other people on there today?
[14:51] <ScottK> No, but that's not unusual.  It's a low traffic list.
[14:51] <clivejo> wasnt sure if my sub had been accepted properly
[14:57] <clivejo> is it better to request patches on the mailing list or here?
[15:10] <yofel> you mean send patches to?
[15:10] <yofel> On the ML everyone will see it, IRC might be faster - if the relevant people see it
[15:10] <clivejo> to get them actioned
[15:19] <clivejo> yofel Riddell shadeslayer_ : could someone push this patch to dolphin and rebuild please - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12098213/
[15:21] <yofel> done
[15:21] <clivejo> thanks :)
[15:22] <yofel> bbl
[15:35] <shadeslayer_> clivejo: I'm usually unavailable to review things on the weekend :)
[15:35] <clivejo> no problem
[15:38] <clivejo> just putting it out for whoever can do it
[15:41] <clivejo> I can see the rebuild on jenkins but not here http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.07.90_wily.html why is that?
[16:01] <yofel> Because my upload was rejected. I missed that dolphin has a version suffix
[16:02] <yofel> can't reupload right now though
[18:21] <yofel> CMakeFiles/plasma_runner_marble.dir/main.cpp.o: In function `factory::~factory()':
[18:21] <yofel> /tmp/buildd/marble-15.07.90/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/src/plasmarunner/../../../src/plasmarunner/main.cpp:18: undefined reference to `vtable for factory'
[18:21] <yofel> I throw the towel, c++ won
[18:26] <ScottK> yofel: Have all the build-deps been rebuilt?
[18:26]  * ScottK guesses not.
[18:27] <yofel> probably not, right
[18:38] <clivejo> anyone got suggestions for "DolphinVcs , the Dolphin version control plugin library , <http://dolphin.kde.org/>
[18:38] <clivejo>    Provides the version control plugin interface." ?
[18:40] <clivejo> Ive tried kdesdk-dolphin-plugins, but still complains about not finding it
[19:07] <clivejo> grrrr  there must be a way to run apt-get update from within pbuilder
[19:17] <BluesKaj> clivejo:  does it have tabs like the terminal?
[19:17] <clivejo> tabs?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> for separate sessions
[19:19] <BluesKaj> never seen what pbuilder looks like so I'm just stabbing in the dark 
[19:20] <yofel> clivejo: during the run? yes
[19:20] <clivejo> just the man
[19:20] <clivejo> will you push this for me please - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12100695/
[19:21] <clivejo> how do I run an update before attempting the build?
[19:22] <clivejo> yofel: BTW thats for dolphin-plugins
[19:22] <clivejo> should hopefully turn it green :)
[19:22] <clivejo> I was building it over and over then realised that dolphin package is new today and only in that PPA
[19:22] <BluesKaj> so is dolphin finally running in plasma 5 after this?
[19:23] <clivejo> and I need to run a apt-get
[19:23] <clivejo> BluesKaj: I dont know if its fully KF5 yet
[19:24] <BluesKaj> just checked here on Wily, still 4.14.6
[19:24] <clivejo> Im trying to fix the remaining 15.07.90 apps
[19:24] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.07.90_wily.html
[19:26] <clivejo> kalarmcal is baffling me
[19:26] <BluesKaj> can't wait til it uses the colours I chose in system settings , and changing the settings in systemsettings5 as root doesn't do anything 
[19:26] <BluesKaj> for dolphin that is
[19:29] <clivejo> Im afraid to try the staging PPA
[19:30] <lordievader> clivejo: Good luck with the last packages, you can do it \o/
[19:30] <clivejo> I need some help!
[19:31] <clivejo> kmailtransport seems to be holding back the building of a few packages
[19:31] <lordievader> I'm afraid I'll only be a nuisiance. (Or however that is spelled)
[19:31] <clivejo> its asking for  * Boost (required version >= 1.49)
[19:32] <clivejo> Ive notice on my own wily install libboost is being held back from being installed
[19:33] <yofel> sorry, I'm on the train and my connection dies all the time, this might take a while..
[19:33] <yofel> Anyway. Put this in your ~/.pbuilderrc
[19:33] <yofel> HOOKDIR="$HOME/.pbuilder-hooks"
[19:33] <yofel> then run "bzr co lp:~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks ~/.pbuilder-hooks"
[19:33] <yofel> that includes D10aptupdate, which does what you want
[19:34] <yofel> and a couple other things
[19:35] <clivejo> bzr is giving me a Permission denied (publickey).
[19:37] <yofel> well, you might as well use the time to add your key then
[19:37] <clivejo> is it not part of LP?
[19:37] <clivejo> use my LP key?
[19:39] <yofel> it's telling you that it doesn't know about the ssh key that you're currently using
[19:40] <lordievader> I guess it is not in the authorized_keys file.
[19:41] <clivejo> it uses ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[19:41] <lordievader> No idea ;) Just guessing here.
[19:42]  * ahoneybun thinks lordievader is right
[19:43] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun 
[19:43] <ahoneybun> hola lordievader
[19:46] <yofel> no, that's the file that's used on the *target* system (where LP is maybe even using that)
[19:46] <yofel> LP knows about https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+sshkeys
[19:52] <clivejo> grrr I dunno
[19:52] <yofel> ok, then try this bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks ~/.pbuilder-hooks
[19:52] <yofel> I think that works without the key
[19:53] <clivejo> I just downloaded D10aptupdate and D12aptupgrade from the website
[19:53] <yofel> well, that'll work too
[19:53] <yofel> make sure they're executable (+x)
[19:54] <clivejo> does C10shell drop me into a shell after the build fails?
[19:55] <yofel> yes
[19:55] <clivejo> Ill grab that one too
[19:57] <clivejo> ok grabbed those 3 and chmod'ed them +x
[19:57] <clivejo> how do I invoke them?
[19:58] <yofel> that's automatic as long as the HOOKDIR is correct
[19:58] <yofel> for details, see the section about --hookdir in the pbuilder manpage
[19:59] <clivejo> yofel: you had no luck with marble?
[20:01] <yofel> well, I fixed a bunch of things, but now I'm stuck on a probably gcc5 related linking failure. I'll look at that at some later point
[20:02] <clivejo> I couldnt get LP to accept libqextserialport
[20:03] <clivejo> dunno whats up with it
[20:03] <yofel> what did it say?
[20:05] <clivejo> dunno, cant open the email
[20:12] <clivejo> aol and kontact arent play well these days
[20:20] <SilentGhost> I have a very limited selection for the online accounts. does anyone know where I could start looking for a solution?
[20:26] <SilentGhost> that's for 15.04 with 5.3.2 from backports
[20:35] <ari-tczew> Riddell: ping
[20:58] <ari-tczew> Riddell: if you got a free 5 minutes, I'd be happy to get merge of pkg-kde-tools sponsored :)
[20:58] <ari-tczew> https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/ubuntu/wily/pkg-kde-tools/merge/+merge/268176