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lotuspsychjegood morning to all01:31
daftykinso/01:34
daftykinshow are you lotuspsychje ?01:34
lotuspsychjehey daftykins01:35
lotuspsychjeall ok here mate, have been moving to another house and internet works again now01:35
daftykinshuzzah!01:40
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I had noticed the absense . New house, move'n on up ?01:40
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om01:40
daftykinsi shall await my housewarming invite with glee01:40
daftykins:>01:40
lotuspsychjeyep its a temp house solution rental, until we buy new house01:41
OerHekshi lotus01:43
lotuspsychjehello OerHeks :p01:44
ObrienDaveare the loony toons out in force tonight? ;P05:48
ObrienDaveoops, asked that a BIT early ;P06:05
wileeeheh, you've been schooled06:08
wileeegrade schooled  "rim shot here'06:09
lordievaderGood morning.07:10
tintedwindowsanybody know of an alternative linux software for cheat engine08:24
ubuntuser24How many of you still use an Ubuntu version older than 14.04?14:04
lordievaderNot here, Kubuntu doesn't want a lot of testing done for precise.14:09
ubuntuser24I never said anything about Kubuntu14:11
ubuntuser24And is precise pangolin 9.04, or 9.10?14:12
lordievaderubuntuser24: I know, but I am a Kubuntu tester. The only reason I might still have Precise (12.04) is to test stuff on there.14:13
ubuntuser24But if Kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, why is Kubuntu's version number for Precise pangolin different than Ubuntu's?14:14
lordievaderIt isn't.14:16
lordievaderPrecise = 12.0414:16
Oerlordievader +114:16
lordievaderOer: No longer a witch?14:17
Oeryeah just noticed, brb14:17
ubuntuser24Are more of you using Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu 15.04 than anything else?14:17
OerHeks:-)14:18
ubuntuser24I mean anything older than Vivid Vervet14:18
lordievaderI got 14.04, 15.04 and 15.10 installed on my test box. 15.10 is most used.14:18
lordievaderBut then again, I ain't your typical Ubuntu user ;)14:19
ubuntuser24So nobody uses 11.10, 11.04, 10.10, or 10.04 anymore?14:19
OerHeksNope, those are EOL, end of life14:19
lordievader^ that.14:20
OerHeksno updates, no security fixes. and the servers are offline.14:20
TJ-what servers are offline?14:21
ubuntuser24No wonder you guys most likely don't use those releases anymore14:21
ubuntuser24He means the package servers14:22
TJ-They most certainly are not!14:22
ubuntuser24No, the packages for 11.10 and older are unsupported14:23
TJ-Everything back to Warty (4.10) is still online14:23
OerHeksThere is however one server running, for special purposes, you need to do some tricks to get that running > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading14:23
ubuntuser24You are correct, but those are certainly not supported14:23
ubuntuser24Pretty soon, those really old packages should be purged from archive.ubuntu.com14:24
OerHekswhy? it is fun, crawling trough openoffice 2.2 and such14:25
ubuntuser24And what is that server, I suppose?14:25
TJ-I have several older release images running, and it's just a case of a 'sed' against sources.list to insert old-releases14:25
ubuntuser24OK then, you might find unstable releases in there so be careful14:26
ubuntuser24I would think eventually, the old releases would get purged14:26
lordievaderI'm sure TJ- knows what he is doing ;)14:26
TJ-:P14:26
ubuntuser24Does archive.ubuntu.com ever go down for maintainence?14:26
TJ-ubuntuser24: It's a cluster so shouldn't do14:27
ubuntuser24Hey guys, look. The same person from ##networking is in here too, awesome :)14:28
ubuntuser24Why is it fun crawling through old packages?14:29
TJ-oh, it's firmwarefun2414:29
ubuntuser24And I just mean the packages for anything older than 9.04 should be purged, because nobody uses 9.04 or below anymore :(14:30
lordievaderubuntuser24: Heh, you'd be surprised...14:31
ubuntuser24Those lazy people should at least upgrade to 12.04....14:31
lordievaderAnd what if that ain't possible?14:31
ubuntuser24Then they will switch to Macs, if they had the money14:32
lordievaderubuntuser24: We have a server with 8.04 running. And because we don't want to break it we cannot upgrade it. (We are working for a replacement though)14:33
ubuntuser24Upgrade to Ubuntu Server 15.0414:34
lordievaderLike I said, not possible ;)14:35
ubuntuser24Until you guys get enough money for new hardware14:36
lordievaderNo, until the replacement is ready (which should be soon), but until that time...14:36
ubuntuser24How long have a guys had that server?14:37
ubuntuser24* you guys14:38
lordievaderLet's not talk about that... :P14:38
ubuntuser24When did Ubuntu 8.04 come out?14:39
lordievader2008-04 ;) name says it.14:40
ubuntuser24Then he must of had that server for 8 years, wow :)14:41
lordievaderIt is a vm actually.14:43
ubuntuser24You mean in Microsoft's Hyper-V, or virtualbox?14:44
ubuntuser24And why would you be working for a replacement?14:44
ubuntuser24A VM is a file, not a real computer14:45
ubuntuser24Unless you are running one of those screen sharing programs or something14:45
lordievaderI think it is an lxc container, but I'm not sure might also be a kvm vm.14:45
lordievaderA vm is a virtual machine, not a file.14:46
lordievaderYes, I know everything is a file in Linux ;)14:46
TJ-a psuedo-file to be exact :)14:46
ubuntuser24Oh, so you have a Linux server, and are using a KVM switch to control it from a remote location14:47
lordievaderubuntuser24: KVM can also mean Kernel Virtual Machine, as it does in this instance.14:48
lordievaderubuntuser24: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page14:49
ubuntuser24Oh, so it's the Linux version of Microsoft's Hyper-V14:53
=== ubuntuser24 is now known as firmwarefun24
firmwarefun24See TJ, now I changed my username to the one I was using on ##networking14:59
=== quaddex- is now known as quaddex
daftykins'kadiro' is today's nick i see19:50
OerHekshappy sunday19:50
daftykins:D19:52

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