[01:31] good morning to all [01:34] o/ [01:34] how are you lotuspsychje ? [01:35] hey daftykins [01:35] all ok here mate, have been moving to another house and internet works again now [01:40] huzzah! [01:40] lotuspsychje: I had noticed the absense . New house, move'n on up ? [01:40] hey Bashing-om [01:40] i shall await my housewarming invite with glee [01:40] :> [01:41] yep its a temp house solution rental, until we buy new house [01:43] hi lotus [01:44] hello OerHeks :p [05:48] are the loony toons out in force tonight? ;P [06:05] oops, asked that a BIT early ;P [06:08] heh, you've been schooled [06:09] grade schooled "rim shot here' [07:10] Good morning. [08:24] anybody know of an alternative linux software for cheat engine [14:04] How many of you still use an Ubuntu version older than 14.04? [14:09] Not here, Kubuntu doesn't want a lot of testing done for precise. [14:11] I never said anything about Kubuntu [14:12] And is precise pangolin 9.04, or 9.10? [14:13] ubuntuser24: I know, but I am a Kubuntu tester. The only reason I might still have Precise (12.04) is to test stuff on there. [14:14] But if Kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, why is Kubuntu's version number for Precise pangolin different than Ubuntu's? [14:16] It isn't. [14:16] Precise = 12.04 [14:16] lordievader +1 [14:17] Oer: No longer a witch? [14:17] yeah just noticed, brb [14:17] Are more of you using Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu 15.04 than anything else? [14:18] :-) [14:18] I mean anything older than Vivid Vervet [14:18] I got 14.04, 15.04 and 15.10 installed on my test box. 15.10 is most used. [14:19] But then again, I ain't your typical Ubuntu user ;) [14:19] So nobody uses 11.10, 11.04, 10.10, or 10.04 anymore? [14:19] Nope, those are EOL, end of life [14:20] ^ that. [14:20] no updates, no security fixes. and the servers are offline. [14:21] what servers are offline? [14:21] No wonder you guys most likely don't use those releases anymore [14:22] He means the package servers [14:22] They most certainly are not! [14:23] No, the packages for 11.10 and older are unsupported [14:23] Everything back to Warty (4.10) is still online [14:23] There is however one server running, for special purposes, you need to do some tricks to get that running > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading [14:23] You are correct, but those are certainly not supported [14:24] Pretty soon, those really old packages should be purged from archive.ubuntu.com [14:25] why? it is fun, crawling trough openoffice 2.2 and such [14:25] And what is that server, I suppose? [14:25] I have several older release images running, and it's just a case of a 'sed' against sources.list to insert old-releases [14:26] OK then, you might find unstable releases in there so be careful [14:26] I would think eventually, the old releases would get purged [14:26] I'm sure TJ- knows what he is doing ;) [14:26] :P [14:26] Does archive.ubuntu.com ever go down for maintainence? [14:27] ubuntuser24: It's a cluster so shouldn't do [14:28] Hey guys, look. The same person from ##networking is in here too, awesome :) [14:29] Why is it fun crawling through old packages? [14:29] oh, it's firmwarefun24 [14:30] And I just mean the packages for anything older than 9.04 should be purged, because nobody uses 9.04 or below anymore :( [14:31] ubuntuser24: Heh, you'd be surprised... [14:31] Those lazy people should at least upgrade to 12.04.... [14:31] And what if that ain't possible? [14:32] Then they will switch to Macs, if they had the money [14:33] ubuntuser24: We have a server with 8.04 running. And because we don't want to break it we cannot upgrade it. (We are working for a replacement though) [14:34] Upgrade to Ubuntu Server 15.04 [14:35] Like I said, not possible ;) [14:36] Until you guys get enough money for new hardware [14:36] No, until the replacement is ready (which should be soon), but until that time... [14:37] How long have a guys had that server? [14:38] * you guys [14:38] Let's not talk about that... :P [14:39] When did Ubuntu 8.04 come out? [14:40] 2008-04 ;) name says it. [14:41] Then he must of had that server for 8 years, wow :) [14:43] It is a vm actually. [14:44] You mean in Microsoft's Hyper-V, or virtualbox? [14:44] And why would you be working for a replacement? [14:45] A VM is a file, not a real computer [14:45] Unless you are running one of those screen sharing programs or something [14:45] I think it is an lxc container, but I'm not sure might also be a kvm vm. [14:46] A vm is a virtual machine, not a file. [14:46] Yes, I know everything is a file in Linux ;) [14:46] a psuedo-file to be exact :) [14:47] Oh, so you have a Linux server, and are using a KVM switch to control it from a remote location [14:48] ubuntuser24: KVM can also mean Kernel Virtual Machine, as it does in this instance. [14:49] ubuntuser24: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page [14:53] Oh, so it's the Linux version of Microsoft's Hyper-V === ubuntuser24 is now known as firmwarefun24 [14:59] See TJ, now I changed my username to the one I was using on ##networking === quaddex- is now known as quaddex [19:50] 'kadiro' is today's nick i see [19:50] happy sunday [19:52] :D