| kulelu88 | hey gremble | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| kulelu88 | still awake buddy? | 00:06 |
| gremble | Up | 00:19 |
| gremble | Yup* | 00:19 |
| gremble | Watching Penny Dreadful and working through a haskell book | 00:19 |
| kulelu88 | I'm trying to get scipy installed via docker. no luck sadly | 00:25 |
| gremble | How so? | 00:27 |
| kulelu88 | the build is failing for some reason | 00:27 |
| gremble | Have you tried using anaconda instead? | 00:28 |
| kulelu88 | I've got docker into my workflow now. I am a bit worried about standards in docker though | 00:29 |
| kulelu88 | its like hit and miss | 00:29 |
| gremble | How so? | 00:30 |
| gremble | I have never worked with docker | 00:30 |
| kulelu88 | well, you can either install it via the registry or on your own, but the registry creates a lot of bloat | 00:31 |
| kulelu88 | docker will be easy for you gremble . your aptitude is high | 00:32 |
| gremble | I don't completely understand the docker usecase. If you are going to virtualise, why not just get a 'smaller' VPS? | 00:33 |
| kulelu88 | docker is more a tool for development | 00:33 |
| kulelu88 | containerizing your dev environment means that from dev to testing to production will be the same | 00:34 |
| kulelu88 | so no hidden surprises when moving from dev to production servers | 00:34 |
| gremble | Ah okay, that makes sense | 00:34 |
| kulelu88 | but getting the installs right is quite the clusterfuck | 00:35 |
| gremble | Haha. So no surprises unless you include the actual installation | 00:36 |
| kulelu88 | the dockerfile is basically a bash script | 00:38 |
| kulelu88 | but shit doesn't always work. I struggled with node install too | 00:38 |
| gremble | Haha. Write a better specification | 00:38 |
| gremble | :P | 00:38 |
| kulelu88 | take a look : https://pastee.org/uxzc7 | 00:40 |
| gremble | Now where is it failing? | 00:45 |
| gremble | It looks simple enough | 00:45 |
| gremble | Although ipython[notebook] doesn't look like a valid name to me | 00:46 |
| kulelu88 | it is a command to specify installing ipython with the notebook | 00:46 |
| gremble | You're also probably going to want doesn't it come with the notebook anyway? | 00:47 |
| kulelu88 | nope | 00:47 |
| gremble | Oh | 00:47 |
| kulelu88 | that command tells it to include notebook | 00:47 |
| gremble | You're also going to want to get scikit-learn I think? | 00:47 |
| kulelu88 | I saw that. leme research it | 00:47 |
| gremble | It is for data mining and data analysis. The machine learning library | 00:48 |
| kulelu88 | can you provide an explanation for its use? gremble | 00:54 |
| gremble | nope. I've just seen it's requirement in some machine learning contexts. Haven't worked with it yet | 00:54 |
| kulelu88 | Possibly useful for the future, installing it | 00:56 |
| gremble | I'm going to hit the sack. See you around kulelu88 | 01:03 |
| kulelu88 | peace gremble | 01:03 |
| Kilos | morning all | 05:43 |
| Trixar_za | Morning Kilos | 05:45 |
| Kilos | hi there Trixar_za all good? | 05:45 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, working on something again :P | 05:45 |
| Trixar_za | How about you? | 05:45 |
| Kilos | im good ty | 05:46 |
| Kilos | also working but on a hated thing | 05:46 |
| Trixar_za | I'll tell you if I start hating it. It IS the kernel I'm compiling... :/ | 05:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:48 |
| Kilos | you cant hate that | 05:48 |
| Kilos | i have an xp pc to sort for an old woman | 05:49 |
| Kilos | sigh | 05:49 |
| Trixar_za | At least it's not a Windows 10 PC | 05:49 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 05:49 |
| Kilos | i wont have one here with that eula | 05:50 |
| Trixar_za | I've seen several reports that it might have spyware built-in | 05:50 |
| Kilos | in eula you agree to give ms full access to pc data and mails | 05:50 |
| Kilos | for security reasons of course | 05:51 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, which to them means they can use your webcam to take a picture of you and for them to dump your search history to their servers. | 05:51 |
| Trixar_za | Among other things | 05:51 |
| Kilos | yes | 05:51 |
| Trixar_za | Guess, I need to start from mental scratch too | 06:02 |
| Trixar_za | What do I want out of this :P | 06:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:03 |
| Kilos | what are you doing the kernel for? | 06:03 |
| Trixar_za | Not just the kernel - a whole distro | 06:08 |
| Kilos | oh my | 06:09 |
| Trixar_za | It's a little pointless to create something that nobody will use because it lacks focus. | 06:17 |
| Trixar_za | It's better that I decide now what it will be and then add to that. | 06:17 |
| Kilos | ah | 06:18 |
| kulelu88 | you're compiling an OS? | 06:29 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah - I'm bored. Micro-Linux to be more exact. I want to use pacman as the package manager since Arch uses pretty optimized and bare minimum requirement packages. | 06:40 |
| kulelu88 | meh, arch and their systemd shit | 06:56 |
| gremble | Good morning | 09:07 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 09:08 |
| gremble | How are you Kilos? | 09:08 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 09:08 |
| gremble | I am well thank you | 09:08 |
| gremble | Do you know if Langjan's computer is working now? | 09:08 |
| Kilos | nope nothing yet | 09:09 |
| superfly | *yawn* I hate being sick, it makes you tired | 09:46 |
| gremble | Being sick is vile | 09:48 |
| superfly | I'm kinda grateful it's over the weekend... I need to be well for work on Monday' | 09:49 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell kulelu88 Stuff like scipy is best installed via apt-get rather than pip | 09:50 |
| Maaz | superfly: Okay, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode | 09:50 |
| gremble | Why is that? | 09:51 |
| superfly | gremble: scipy is written in C | 09:51 |
| superfly | gremble: if you want to install it via pip you'll need all it's build dependencies | 09:52 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell kulelu88 also, use phusion/baseimage rather than Ubuntu | 09:52 |
| Maaz | superfly: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode | 09:52 |
| gremble | Isn't most of the CPython libraries built with C though? | 09:52 |
| superfly | gremble: CPython is written in C, yes, but most of the modules you can install via pip are written in Python | 09:53 |
| gremble | Oh alright | 09:53 |
| superfly | And pip basically downloads the source code (not 100%, but in a matter of sorts) | 09:54 |
| superfly | so if you download a package that is written in C, pip will compile it | 09:54 |
| gremble | TIL | 09:55 |
| superfly | in general, it is better to install a package than compile something, unless you have a specific reason or version needed | 09:58 |
| gremble | With python, I usually make a venv and install the packages that I need for whatever I'm doing in there with pip | 10:00 |
| superfly | some guys wrote a thing called virtualenv which will create a virtual python environment | 10:00 |
| superfly | gremble: yes, that's the right way to do it | 10:00 |
| superfly | (slow typing due to daughter on lap) | 10:01 |
| gremble | With haskell, it is cabal or stack. I still have no idea how to do something similar with C/C++ | 10:01 |
| linda | hi Kilos | 10:42 |
| linda | its me connecting from grannys | 10:42 |
| Kilos | ohi linda | 10:43 |
| linda | langjan | 10:43 |
| Kilos | mooi man | 10:44 |
| linda | hi howzit kil | 10:44 |
| linda | KIL | 10:44 |
| gremble | So the laptop works now? | 10:44 |
| linda | yes at lasdt | 10:44 |
| linda | last | 10:44 |
| gremble | Good. I am glad | 10:44 |
| linda | thks gremble | 10:45 |
| linda | everything set up nicely except email | 10:45 |
| linda | I exported thunderbird profile in win 7 to backups but cannot import | 10:46 |
| Kilos | well done linda | 10:46 |
| linda | but I used import/export tools so I should first install those here I presume | 10:47 |
| linda | thkskil | 10:47 |
| linda | Kilos, | 10:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:48 |
| linda | lmga | 10:48 |
| linda | outannie praat lelik ne | 10:48 |
| Kilos | type three letters and hit tab | 10:48 |
| linda | Kilos, | 10:48 |
| Kilos | ja lyk my jy het haar geleer | 10:48 |
| linda | I hit and miss then hit caps lock or something | 10:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:49 |
| linda | shes not here | 10:49 |
| Kilos | have you remove 7 | 10:49 |
| linda | I still need to ease her into linux | 10:49 |
| linda | no but it was wiped | 10:49 |
| Kilos | wiped? | 10:49 |
| linda | well after installing ubuntu its gone, used the whole disc in the end | 10:50 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 10:50 |
| Kilos | pity | 10:50 |
| Kilos | but better in the long run | 10:51 |
| linda | we agreed if she cannot adapt we will put win 7 back | 10:51 |
| Kilos | ok | 10:51 |
| Kilos | just teach her slowly | 10:51 |
| linda | now I just need to get her mails back | 10:51 |
| Kilos | setup everything for her | 10:51 |
| linda | ok chat later | 10:51 |
| Kilos | and we always here for help | 10:51 |
| Kilos | ok then | 10:51 |
| linda | already done that except for the emals | 10:51 |
| Kilos | chow for now | 10:52 |
| linda | put in shortcuts for everyting | 10:52 |
| Kilos | good | 10:52 |
| linda | bye now | 10:52 |
| magespawn | good afternoon | 11:09 |
| gremble | Good afternoon magespawn | 11:09 |
| magespawn | hi gremble | 11:10 |
| gremble | How are you on this rather hot sunday? | 11:12 |
| magespawn | just domestic maintenance | 11:12 |
| magespawn | washing in this case | 11:12 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 11:13 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos, iwas starting to wonder if you had passed along the greater bot to somemone else | 11:13 |
| magespawn | also busy recovering data off a hard drive | 11:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:39 |
| Kilos | busy trying to sort an office prob on xp | 11:39 |
| Langjan | Hi guys, old man nuisance again... | 11:44 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 11:44 |
| Langjan | is there an expert in importing win 7 profile into thunderbird? | 11:44 |
| Langjan | hi Kilos | 11:44 |
| Kilos | eeek | 11:44 |
| Langjan | tried google, does'nt work, must be doing something silly | 11:45 |
| DalekSec | http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_from_Windows_to_Linux though it looks very outdated. | 11:46 |
| Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/84996/migrating-thunderbird-profile-from-windows-7-to-ubuntu | 11:47 |
| Langjan | Thks Kilos , I've been there. I have the vdnchczf.Default User-20150813-1740 file which I saved from Win 7. Then I copied the file contents to a .thunderbird folder and used profile manager to create a new profile, does'nt work. | 11:55 |
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| Kilos | you need someone clever Langjan | 11:56 |
| Kilos | i had to ask inetpro to help me sort my thunderbird | 11:57 |
| Langjan | thats why I asked you | 11:57 |
| Kilos | lolol | 11:57 |
| Langjan | serious | 11:57 |
| Kilos | yeah i get help lots | 11:57 |
| Kilos | ek dom jong | 11:57 |
| Langjan | dis die ouderdom, die ouder is niks, dis die dom wat 'n bogger is | 11:58 |
| Kilos | ja ek stem heeltemaal | 11:58 |
| Langjan | have we used inetpro 's time up? | 11:58 |
| Langjan | and patience | 11:59 |
| Kilos | he will be here this evening or tonight | 11:59 |
| Kilos | but sometimes drops in early | 11:59 |
| Langjan | I see him | 11:59 |
| Langjan | sy ore tuit seker oor ons skinder | 12:00 |
| Kilos | he always shows as here because he has work pc and fone and laptop all connected to here | 12:00 |
| Langjan | ok so the waiting game | 12:00 |
| Kilos | he is even here when on holiday | 12:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:00 |
| Kilos | yeah | 12:00 |
| Langjan | ok i'll be back early evening | 12:01 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:01 |
| gremble | Does anyone here know why I would have a hard drive running at 95% on idle? | 12:01 |
| Langjan | take good care | 12:02 |
| Kilos | you too Langjan | 12:02 |
| Langjan | thks Kilos | 12:02 |
| magespawn | whats up there? | 12:19 |
| magespawn | gremble: something going on in the back ground there | 12:21 |
| gremble | Yes. It is some internal network thing from windows. I want to put the laptop in the microwave to fix it | 12:21 |
| magespawn | Kilos: tell Langjan to install Thunderbird on Windows first, import all mail data there, it should offer the option on installation, then take that file across to the thunderbird on linux | 12:22 |
| Kilos | aha ty magespawn | 12:22 |
| magespawn | i am assuming that is what he wants done | 12:23 |
| magespawn | gremble: what does task manager or resource monitor show? | 12:23 |
| gremble | svchost | 12:24 |
| gremble | I fixed the issue at hand and handed it back. I think it may be the win10 download | 12:24 |
| magespawn | hmm i hear that is about 3Gigs gremble | 13:50 |
| magespawn | i have not opted for it yet on any of the work computers, i am wainting for them to sort out the various glitches | 13:51 |
| inetpro | Maaz: tell Langjan DIY: Back up and migrate a Thunderbird profile and folders http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/diy-it-guy/diy-back-up-and-migrate-a-thunderbird-profile-and-folders/ | 13:56 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Langjan on freenode | 13:56 |
| inetpro | good afternoon | 13:57 |
| gremble | Between the glitch that is win8, I don't think it would be so bad. | 13:59 |
| gremble | Hey inetpro | 14:00 |
| inetpro | hi gremble | 14:00 |
| magespawn | hi inetpro | 14:03 |
| inetpro | heh magespawn | 14:23 |
| inetpro | MaNI: wb | 14:23 |
| inetpro | south africa in trouble against NZ? | 14:24 |
| MaNI | thanks | 14:24 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 14:30 |
| inetpro | goeiedag oom Kilos | 14:44 |
| Kilos | gaan dit goed boetie? | 14:44 |
| inetpro | hang af | 14:45 |
| Kilos | ek het net wakker geword | 14:45 |
| Kilos | van wat? | 14:45 |
| inetpro | of ons gaan wen of nie | 14:45 |
| Kilos | o die krieket | 14:45 |
| inetpro | yebo | 14:45 |
| inetpro | T20 is altyd baie interessant | 14:46 |
| Kilos | ek nie tyd nie vir dit maar het gisteraand saam my meisies rugby gekyk | 14:46 |
| Kilos | ou tannies maak my moeg | 14:46 |
| Kilos | veral dit wat geheg is aan xp | 14:47 |
| inetpro | Required RR 12.50 | 14:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 14:47 |
| Kilos | sal moet wild slaan | 14:47 |
| inetpro | New Zealand 177/7 (20/20 ov) - South Africa 105/4 (14.2/20 ov) | 14:48 |
| Kilos | ek het nou net aan gesit | 14:48 |
| inetpro | eish! | 14:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:49 |
| inetpro | Behardien shapes for a slog sweep, hits rather well but straight down the gullet of deep midwicket and OUT | 14:51 |
| inetpro | shame | 14:51 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:53 |
| inetpro | ai! | 14:53 |
| inetpro | sit af oom | 14:53 |
| inetpro | bad luck as jy aansit | 14:53 |
| Kilos | haqhahaha | 14:54 |
| Kilos | daarsy, af gesit maar birtjie laat dink ek | 14:55 |
| Kilos | bietjie | 14:55 |
| inetpro | nee man, ek grap net oom :-) | 14:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:15 |
| gremble | superfly: what is the monkey patch for in ibid's types? sqlite_visit_IBID_VARCHAR throws a type error that I am trying to resolve | 16:18 |
| Kilos | maybe you can ask tumbles too gremble | 16:19 |
| Kilos | dunno where he is right now | 16:20 |
| Kilos | maybe 9am there | 16:20 |
| gremble | tumbleweed: what is the monkey patch for in ibid's types.py? sqlite_visit_VARCHAR throws a type error that I am trying to resolve | 16:21 |
| gremble | thanks Kilos. I should probably look at who contributed to that specific piece P | 16:21 |
| gremble | :P | 16:21 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:21 |
| tumbleweed | gremble: sorry, can't remember | 16:38 |
| gremble | Thanks :P | 16:39 |
| gremble | I'll just fiddle until something breaks | 16:39 |
| gremble | Else breaks | 16:39 |
| superfly | gremble: show me the error? | 16:52 |
| superfly | Kilos: tumbleweed is in Germany at the moment | 16:53 |
| Kilos | ah ty superfly so same time zone as uss then | 16:55 |
| superfly | yes | 16:56 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed | 16:56 |
| superfly | but he'll be busy during the day | 16:56 |
| Kilos | ah ty for that | 16:56 |
| gremble | superfly: sec, trying to pipe it into a paste | 16:58 |
| gremble | superfly: hastebin.com/rejiriqo.vhdl | 17:01 |
| superfly | gremble: that didn't seem to work :-/ | 17:02 |
| gremble | superfly: try it now? http://hastebin.com/rejihuriqo.vhdl | 17:03 |
| gremble | I missed the h | 17:03 |
| gremble | :P | 17:03 |
| superfly | ah | 17:04 |
| superfly | version of sqlalchemy? | 17:05 |
| gremble | Newest, 1.9 I think. Let me check | 17:05 |
| superfly | 0.9? | 17:05 |
| superfly | 1.0? | 17:05 |
| gremble | Ha 1 | 17:06 |
| gremble | sorry | 17:06 |
| superfly | try downgrading to 0.6 | 17:07 |
| superfly | ibid's last commit was in 2013 | 17:07 |
| gremble | No, I am trying to not do that haha. I want to try and fix it :P | 17:08 |
| superfly | ah | 17:08 |
| gremble | So I know it gets an error | 17:08 |
| gremble | I want to try and figure out what the code does that is causing the error | 17:08 |
| superfly | sorry, a bit distracted, got 3 kids in the study with me | 17:08 |
| gremble | No worries | 17:08 |
| Langjan | hi Kilos | 17:21 |
| Maaz | Langjan: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell Langjan DIY: Back up and migrate a Thunderbird profile and folders http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/diy-it-guy/diy-back-up-and-migrate-a-thunderbird-profile-and-folders/" 3 hours, 24 minutes and 22 seconds ago | 17:21 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 17:21 |
| Kilos | hope that helps you | 17:21 |
| Langjan | I see the message from inetpro , will give it a go thks | 17:21 |
| Kilos | pro a handy guy to have around | 17:21 |
| Langjan | Thats exactly the site and system that I tried, did not work but let me give it another go | 17:27 |
| Langjan | inetpro, thks for the link. Its unclear for me how to create and name the file that I need to paste the contents of the backup profile into | 17:49 |
| inetpro | oom Langjan, it's not just a single file, it is a folder with many files and folders in it | 17:52 |
| inetpro | back in the day Mozilla wrote it's browser and email system specifically so it would be system independant | 17:54 |
| inetpro | you just transfer the whole profile from one to the other and continue working, as simple as that | 17:55 |
| inetpro | you just need to transfer the correct folder | 17:56 |
| inetpro | and obviously you need to setup the profile so it knows where to find the files | 17:57 |
| Langjan | hi inetpro , yes that make sense, I have a backed up folder vdnchczf.Default User-20150813-1740, contents 1,4GB, where do I paste the contents to? | 17:58 |
| inetpro | just create a new folder and plonk it in there | 17:58 |
| Langjan | named anything? | 17:58 |
| inetpro | anythingYouWantAsLongAsYouKnowWhereToFindIt | 17:59 |
| Langjan | ok | 18:00 |
| Langjan | then run thunderbird -p ? | 18:01 |
| inetpro | yep | 18:02 |
| Langjan | inetpro, sorry but I am getting derailed somewhere, its not working | 18:09 |
| inetpro | did you do this step? http://tr1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2015/05/07/523357cc-f482-11e4-940f-14feb5cc3d2a/create_profile.png | 18:11 |
| inetpro | morespecifically, did you choose the right folder there ^^ ? | 18:11 |
| Langjan | Do I fill in the name I gave the folder where it says "default user"? | 18:14 |
| inetpro | you can call it AnythingYouWantItIsJustADescription | 18:15 |
| inetpro | it is just a description or a name of a profile | 18:16 |
| inetpro | in other words, you can have multiple users on the same system | 18:16 |
| inetpro | not very practical but you can | 18:17 |
| Langjan | That makes sense but not what I need | 18:17 |
| inetpro | just call it something else other than default and then set it as default | 18:18 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: I managed to install numpy, scipy, scikit-learn, pandas, etc via pip using docker. not sure it works yet though. you are right though, apt-get is better, although the issue is that 14.04 packages for ubuntu are generally outdated | 18:19 |
| inetpro | well, set the new profile to "Use the selected profile without asking at startup" | 18:20 |
| superfly | kulelu88: Yep, which is why I generally install what is OK from the repositories and then create a virtualenv and use that for the rest | 18:20 |
| Langjan | what doI type in by "default user"? | 18:20 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:21 |
| superfly | kulelu88: virtualenv venv --system-site-packages | 18:21 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: want to see my dockerfile? My end-result image is: 1.2GB in size | 18:21 |
| inetpro | Langjan: 08/16 20:18:40 <inetpro> just call it something else other than default... | 18:21 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I saw the one you posted earlier, is it the same? | 18:21 |
| kulelu88 | partially modified. take a look: https://pastee.org/xy6ja ... <--- superfly | 18:23 |
| kulelu88 | there was a scipy compilation failure because the fortran compiler was missing :D | 18:23 |
| Langjan | then "choose folder" select the one given the same name? | 18:23 |
| superfly | kulelu88: you don't need the "sudo" unless you're running as a specific user. By default the user is root | 18:24 |
| inetpro | Langjan: the naming can be as different as you want | 18:24 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: is my 1.2GB image the result of not cleaning up unnecessary libs? | 18:25 |
| inetpro | Langjan: the important bit is that you map the folder to a profile name | 18:25 |
| inetpro | or you can keep it the same if you want | 18:25 |
| Langjan | Its not working, I have no idea what it means to "map the folder" - sorry but my ineptitude is understandably irritating you and frustrating me endlessly | 18:29 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:29 |
| kulelu88 | inetpro: screenshot | 18:30 |
| inetpro | Langjan: go to the cli and paste the following output at http://bin.snyman.info/ | 18:31 |
| inetpro | $ cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | 18:31 |
| kulelu88 | excluding "$" | 18:31 |
| inetpro | oh and oom Langjan, I'm not really irritated | 18:32 |
| Langjan | ok, sorry | 18:33 |
| inetpro | :-) | 18:33 |
| Langjan | no such file in directory | 18:34 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:35 |
| kulelu88 | oom Langjan . Open the File Manager and look for a folder called ".thunderbird" | 18:35 |
| kulelu88 | this should be in your HOME directory | 18:36 |
| Langjan | I have deleted .thunderbird in lieu of a new file...? | 18:36 |
| inetpro | Langjan: did you click Finish at the end? | 18:36 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:36 |
| inetpro | and then Exit? | 18:37 |
| superfly | kulelu88: depends on what the size of your base image is | 18:38 |
| Langjan | I get to the point where it says start thunderbird, then it starts with a blank profile | 18:38 |
| inetpro | Langjan: ls -l ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | 18:38 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: the base is about 200MB | 18:38 |
| superfly | wow | 18:39 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: getting it installed, got me thinking about how there is no decent standard for docker images. | 18:40 |
| kulelu88 | the hub has such random stuff in it | 18:40 |
| Langjan | ls: cannot access /home/lindaetc.... no such file in directory | 18:40 |
| Langjan | must I start thunderbird firsts o it creates a .thunderbird file? | 18:40 |
| inetpro | Langjan: did you login as lindaetc.... ? | 18:41 |
| Langjan | no, just took a short cut, sorry | 18:41 |
| superfly | kulelu88: yeah, I generally look for the most official looking stuff. they do now have "Official Images" but it doesn't really help much | 18:41 |
| inetpro | Langjan: please provide the exact output of the command | 18:42 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: the reason why I dislike the official images is because there is a lot of duplication in them | 18:42 |
| Langjan | ok coming up | 18:42 |
| Langjan | ls: cannot access /home/linda/.thunderbird/profiles.ini: No such file in directory | 18:44 |
| kulelu88 | the file obviously isn't there | 18:44 |
| inetpro | ok... try starting thunderbird with a dummy profile | 18:45 |
| Langjan | ok | 18:45 |
| inetpro | I just wanted to make sure I;m not making the wrong assumptions | 18:45 |
| inetpro | for a moment I thought you're having another issue | 18:45 |
| Langjan | ok opened tbird | 18:46 |
| inetpro | sorry for being painful | 18:46 |
| Langjan | sorry the old man is so inept | 18:46 |
| inetpro | close it and see whether it has created a folder called ".thunderbird" | 18:47 |
| inetpro | the dot in front makes it a hidden folder | 18:47 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:47 |
| Langjan | its there | 18:48 |
| Langjan | and its where I was derailed, obviously | 18:48 |
| inetpro | now there should be a file called profiles.ini inside that | 18:48 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:49 |
| inetpro | ok, go through that other process again | 18:49 |
| Langjan | ok | 18:49 |
| * inetpro hasn't done this for a very long time | 18:49 | |
| Langjan | the one starting with cat? | 18:50 |
| inetpro | no | 18:50 |
| inetpro | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/diy-it-guy/diy-back-up-and-migrate-a-thunderbird-profile-and-folders/ | 18:50 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 18:51 |
| kulelu88 | backing up a thunderbird profile should be the same as a firefox 1 | 18:52 |
| Langjan | must I delete the default profile thats in there first? | 18:54 |
| inetpro | Langjan: no | 18:54 |
| inetpro | not necessary | 18:54 |
| inetpro | kulelu88: only difference is that firefox creates it's profiles in a folder ~/.mozilla and Thinderbird in ~/.thunderbird/ | 18:54 |
| Langjan | must I click on "create profile"? | 18:55 |
| inetpro | yes | 18:55 |
| inetpro | kulelu88: if I remember correctly they used to put both in the same ~/.mozilla folder | 18:55 |
| inetpro | many years ago | 18:56 |
| Langjan | ended with blank thunderbird...? | 18:57 |
| kulelu88 | the easiest way to swap out a profile is to copy/paste your old profile into the folder and rename it to the default profile name | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Langjan: cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | 18:58 |
| inetpro | kulelu88: not necessary, let's just go full cycle here | 18:59 |
| inetpro | the easiest in my view is to modify profiles.ini manually | 18:59 |
| Langjan | I think I must connect with the lappie so I can copy and paste outputs | 19:00 |
| Langjan | I will be linda | 19:00 |
| Langjan | OK inetpro ? | 19:01 |
| inetpro | that makes sense :-) | 19:01 |
| Langjan | ok just a sec | 19:01 |
| linda | [General] | 19:02 |
| linda | StartWithLastProfile=1 | 19:02 |
| linda | [Profile0] | 19:02 |
| linda | Name=default | 19:02 |
| linda | IsRelative=1 | 19:02 |
| linda | Path=cgqcmz19.default | 19:02 |
| linda | [Profile1] | 19:02 |
| linda | Name=User | 19:02 |
| linda | IsRelative=0 | 19:02 |
| inetpro | hi linda | 19:02 |
| inetpro | welcome to #ubuntu-za :-) | 19:02 |
| linda | Path=/home/linda/Desktop/User | 19:02 |
| linda | Default=1 | 19:02 |
| linda | thks inetpro | 19:02 |
| inetpro | ok, clearly you have sucesfully created a 2nd profile | 19:03 |
| inetpro | named User | 19:03 |
| linda | yes | 19:03 |
| inetpro | are you sure the files are in /home/linda/Desktop/User ? | 19:04 |
| kulelu88 | woot, dont paste multiline text. its IRC :/ | 19:04 |
| linda | yes | 19:05 |
| inetpro | linda: there should be many files in that folder of which one of them should be "prefs.js" | 19:05 |
| linda | sorry kulelu88 ignorance | 19:06 |
| linda | yes its there | 19:06 |
| inetpro | ls -l /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:06 |
| kulelu88 | hey linda . you the first girl on the interwebz <3 :D | 19:06 |
| inetpro | kulelu88: she's 88 | 19:07 |
| kulelu88 | using linux?????? that's legendary | 19:07 |
| linda | Its an imposter, shes sleeping | 19:07 |
| kulelu88 | women can live to long ages. I'll probably be 150% dead before 88 | 19:08 |
| linda | do I run the link in termnal? | 19:08 |
| inetpro | linda: I just want to make 100% sure | 19:08 |
| inetpro | ls -l /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:08 |
| inetpro | linda: yes | 19:09 |
| linda | bash: /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js: Permission denied | 19:09 |
| inetpro | aha | 19:09 |
| inetpro | sudo chown -R linda:linda /home/linda/Desktop/User | 19:10 |
| kulelu88 | sudo | 19:10 |
| inetpro | linda: did you create linda as a 2nd user or is that the first user when you installed? | 19:12 |
| linda | first user, you mean on ubuntu? | 19:13 |
| inetpro | yebo yes | 19:13 |
| linda | yes, only linda | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ok, have you doen the sudo chown thingy? | 19:14 |
| inetpro | chown = change ownership | 19:14 |
| inetpro | or more precise change file owner and group | 19:14 |
| linda | yes | 19:14 |
| inetpro | ok, now do this again | 19:15 |
| inetpro | ls -l /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:15 |
| linda | bash: /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js: Permission denied | 19:16 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:16 |
| inetpro | did you press ENTER and put the password? | 19:16 |
| inetpro | and ENTER again | 19:17 |
| linda | did not ask for password, yes pressed enter | 19:17 |
| inetpro | uh | 19:17 |
| inetpro | linda: your prompt should be "linda@HostName:~$ " | 19:19 |
| inetpro | is that correct? | 19:19 |
| inetpro | whoami | 19:19 |
| linda | no, its linda@linda-X55A:~$ | 19:20 |
| inetpro | linda@linda-X55A:~$ sudo chown -R linda:linda /home/linda/Desktop/User | 19:20 |
| inetpro | start with sudo and press ENTER | 19:21 |
| inetpro | but hang on... I guess you already did the sudo authentication and it just remembered it and therefor didn't ask again | 19:21 |
| inetpro | fact is if you did that correctly you should be able to list the files inside the folder | 19:22 |
| inetpro | linda@linda-X55A:~$ sudo ls -ld /home/linda/Desktop/User | 19:23 |
| linda | drwxrwxr-x 10 linda linda 4096 Aug 16 20:57 /home/linda/Desktop/User | 19:24 |
| inetpro | sudo ls -l /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:25 |
| inetpro | wb magespawn | 19:26 |
| magespawn | ty inetpro | 19:26 |
| inetpro | linda: ? | 19:26 |
| magespawn | seem to lose connection every night for some time | 19:27 |
| inetpro | linda: can you try starting thunderbird again | 19:27 |
| linda | -rw------- 1 linda linda 2919 Aug 16 20:57 /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:27 |
| linda | ok | 19:27 |
| linda | sorry, still blank | 19:28 |
| inetpro | linda: sudo ls -ld /home/linda/Desktop/User/ /home/linda/Desktop /home/linda /home | 19:29 |
| linda | leave tbird open? | 19:29 |
| inetpro | no, close it | 19:30 |
| inetpro | linda: sudo ls -ld /home/linda/Desktop/User/ /home/linda/Desktop /home/linda /home | 19:32 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:33 |
| inetpro | kulelu88: what did you do with linda now? | 19:34 |
| inetpro | oom Langjan, jy nog daar? | 19:36 |
| Langjan | ja | 19:36 |
| inetpro | hmm... wat's fout? | 19:36 |
| Langjan | linda se vodacom het gebreek, nou weer reg | 19:37 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:37 |
| Langjan | will send you the rest of the output, was 4 lines | 19:37 |
| inetpro | ok | 19:37 |
| Langjan | not coming through... | 19:38 |
| inetpro | linda left | 19:38 |
| inetpro | linda has quit | 19:39 |
| Langjan | lets try reconnect | 19:39 |
| Langjan | can you see the outputs in there? | 19:40 |
| inetpro | wb linda | 19:40 |
| inetpro | no | 19:40 |
| Langjan | ok sending again | 19:41 |
| linda | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 15 23:15 /home | 19:41 |
| linda | drwxr-xr-x 27 linda linda 4096 Aug 16 20:45 /home/linda | 19:41 |
| linda | drwxr-xr-x 6 linda linda 4096 Aug 16 20:23 /home/linda/Desktop | 19:42 |
| linda | drwxrwxr-x 10 linda linda 4096 Aug 16 21:29 /home/linda/Desktop/User/ | 19:42 |
| linda | All done | 19:42 |
| inetpro | hmm... those are all correct | 19:42 |
| inetpro | now try one last time for me: ls -l /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:43 |
| inetpro | without sudo | 19:43 |
| inetpro | wb gremble | 19:43 |
| inetpro | linda: ls -l /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:45 |
| linda | -rw------- 1 linda linda 2919 Aug 16 21:29 /home/linda/Desktop/User/prefs.js | 19:45 |
| inetpro | ah, now that is what I expected from the beginning | 19:45 |
| Langjan | good or bad? | 19:46 |
| inetpro | that looks right | 19:46 |
| Kilos | are you having probs with 3g connecting automatically Langjan | 19:46 |
| inetpro | but previously you got permission errors | 19:46 |
| inetpro | linda: thunderbird -p | 19:46 |
| Langjan | signal sometimes comes and goes | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ok sort thunderbird first | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ive got a script for auto connec | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ty for helping inetpro | 19:48 |
| inetpro | linda: select the "User" profile and click start Thunderbird | 19:48 |
| Langjan | ok I have create profile | 19:48 |
| Langjan | with two existing profiles | 19:48 |
| Langjan | default and user | 19:48 |
| inetpro | highlight the profile called "User" | 19:49 |
| Langjan | ok | 19:49 |
| inetpro | and click Start... | 19:49 |
| Langjan | start? | 19:49 |
| inetpro | Start Thunderbird | 19:50 |
| Langjan | oh, start tbird? | 19:50 |
| Langjan | blank | 19:50 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:51 |
| Langjan | optins to skip and use existing mail or configure later | 19:51 |
| inetpro | ok, next attempt | 19:51 |
| Langjan | sorry friend, but thks a lot | 19:51 |
| Langjan | close tbird? | 19:52 |
| inetpro | click "I think I'll configure my account later" | 19:52 |
| Langjan | ok done | 19:52 |
| inetpro | and then close thunderbird | 19:52 |
| Langjan | ok | 19:53 |
| inetpro | still on the cli do the following | 19:53 |
| inetpro | du -hs /home/linda/Desktop/User/ | 19:53 |
| inetpro | cli = command line interface | 19:54 |
| linda | has this any significance? | 19:54 |
| linda | (process:7338): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 19:54 |
| inetpro | no, just ignore those | 19:54 |
| inetpro | not critical at all | 19:55 |
| linda | 1,4G/home/linda/Desktop/User/ | 19:56 |
| linda | thats the size of backup | 19:56 |
| inetpro | ok, so it does look like you stuff is there | 19:56 |
| * inetpro thinking | 19:57 | |
| inetpro | du -hs /home/linda/Desktop/User/Mail/ | 19:59 |
| inetpro | Langjan: ^^ | 20:00 |
| linda | ok sorry doing | 20:01 |
| kulelu88 | is linda jou vrou? oupa Langjan | 20:01 |
| linda | 1,3G/home/linda/Desktop/User/Mail/ | 20:02 |
| Langjan | vriendin, kulelu88 , my vrou is 69 | 20:02 |
| Langjan | nie 88 soos jy en linda nie | 20:03 |
| inetpro | hmm... dit lyk goed so | 20:03 |
| kulelu88 | and you 78? | 20:03 |
| Langjan | 72 | 20:03 |
| gremble | Hey kulelu88 | 20:03 |
| kulelu88 | aweee gremble | 20:03 |
| inetpro | maar dit maak nie sin dat die ding begin met blank | 20:03 |
| kulelu88 | oupa Langjan you must be a real oupa by now. how many small Langjans around? | 20:04 |
| linda | ai | 20:04 |
| Langjan | 4 kids and 6 grands | 20:04 |
| Langjan | oldest 18 | 20:04 |
| kulelu88 | only 6 :( | 20:04 |
| Langjan | of the grands | 20:04 |
| Langjan | Ja one still single, lazy boy 35 | 20:05 |
| linda | must I try tbird aain inetpro ? | 20:06 |
| linda | again | 20:06 |
| inetpro | linda: we havn't done anything | 20:07 |
| linda | ok | 20:07 |
| inetpro | linda: just try the following for me | 20:07 |
| inetpro | cp -r /home/linda/Desktop/User/* ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ | 20:07 |
| inetpro | going to take a while to copy 1.4GB | 20:08 |
| inetpro | actually we should have cleared the folder first | 20:09 |
| inetpro | press Ctrl+C | 20:10 |
| inetpro | if you started already | 20:10 |
| kulelu88 | are they connected via LAN? | 20:10 |
| inetpro | let's do this differently | 20:11 |
| inetpro | mv ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ ~/.thunderbird/olddefault/ | 20:12 |
| linda | Ctrl+C seems to do nothing | 20:12 |
| inetpro | did it start copying? | 20:12 |
| linda | did not notice anything | 20:13 |
| inetpro | du -hs ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ | 20:13 |
| linda | just took a while to go back to clp | 20:13 |
| gremble | Cheers guys | 20:13 |
| inetpro | gremble: goeie nag | 20:13 |
| kulelu88 | peace gremble | 20:13 |
| Kilos | cheers gremble | 20:13 |
| inetpro | Langjan: du -hs ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ | 20:15 |
| linda | leave the old default? | 20:16 |
| inetpro | Langjan: du -hs ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ | 20:16 |
| inetpro | just do that first | 20:16 |
| inetpro | forget about the rest | 20:17 |
| inetpro | or have you done that already? | 20:17 |
| inetpro | have you done mv ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ ~/.thunderbird/olddefault/ ? | 20:17 |
| linda | no | 20:17 |
| linda | no | 20:17 |
| linda | no | 20:19 |
| inetpro | du -hs ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ | 20:19 |
| linda | 1,4G/home/linda/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ | 20:19 |
| inetpro | wow, so it looks like everything copied very quickly... | 20:19 |
| inetpro | you have one fast machine there | 20:19 |
| linda | slow oldies, fast machines, lol | 20:20 |
| inetpro | start thunderbird with the -p option and select "default" and start | 20:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:20 |
| linda | in ommand line? | 20:21 |
| linda | c | 20:21 |
| inetpro | yes | 20:21 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 20:21 |
| linda | ok done | 20:22 |
| inetpro | and? | 20:22 |
| * Cryterion thinks thunderbird is the best email client ;)\ | 20:22 | |
| linda | blank...ai | 20:22 |
| Cryterion | Hi everyone | 20:22 |
| inetpro | strange | 20:22 |
| inetpro | really strange | 20:23 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 20:23 |
| inetpro | Langjan: did you install Kubuntu? | 20:27 |
| linda | no, Ubuntu 14.04 | 20:28 |
| inetpro | hmm... ok | 20:28 |
| inetpro | please close Thunderbird | 20:29 |
| linda | done | 20:29 |
| inetpro | and then | 20:30 |
| inetpro | gedit ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/prefs.js | 20:30 |
| Langjan | file came up, do not edit | 20:31 |
| inetpro | cool... make sure you be careful there now | 20:32 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:32 |
| Langjan | ok | 20:32 |
| Langjan | lmga, Kilos spectator | 20:32 |
| inetpro | does gedit have a search function? | 20:32 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 20:32 |
| inetpro | or find | 20:32 |
| Langjan | yes looks like | 20:33 |
| Langjan | yes | 20:33 |
| inetpro | now find the exact string 'Mail' for me | 20:33 |
| inetpro | without quotes | 20:33 |
| Langjan | many | 20:33 |
| inetpro | give me the output of one of those lines | 20:34 |
| Langjan | user_pref("mail.ab_remote_content.migrated",1); | 20:36 |
| inetpro | no no no | 20:36 |
| inetpro | Mail with a capital M | 20:36 |
| Langjan | I did, its the output, seems to ignore the cap | 20:36 |
| inetpro | in other words the find function needs to be case sensitive | 20:37 |
| Langjan | I enter Mail, it gives all the mails | 20:38 |
| Langjan | ignores the cap | 20:38 |
| * inetpro installs gedit | 20:38 | |
| Kilos | superfly what happened to http://bin.snyman.info | 20:40 |
| Kilos | lotsa strange stuff there | 20:40 |
| Langjan | lost linda again | 20:41 |
| superfly | Kilos: a spammer | 20:41 |
| Kilos | oh my | 20:41 |
| Langjan | Finicky vodamail connection | 20:42 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 20:42 |
| inetpro | gedit that useless? | 20:42 |
| Kilos | cant you use nano? | 20:42 |
| Langjan | let me connect my adsl line there | 20:42 |
| inetpro | ahh, hang on | 20:43 |
| inetpro | Langjan: click on the magnifying glass to set case | 20:43 |
| inetpro | set 'match case' | 20:43 |
| Kilos | i have to sleep guys so excuse this info please | 20:44 |
| Kilos | Langjan http://bin.snyman.info/w76at | 20:44 |
| Kilos | that should make the 3g auto start and auto reconnect | 20:45 |
| Kilos | i have more if that doesnt work | 20:45 |
| Langjan | lekker slaap kilos | 20:45 |
| Kilos | will be here tomorrow | 20:45 |
| Kilos | dankie, julle ook | 20:45 |
| inetpro | Langjan: is linda still connected? | 20:45 |
| Langjan | just coming up now on adsl | 20:46 |
| Langjan | much bettter | 20:46 |
| Kilos | good luck guys | 20:47 |
| inetpro | I'm thinking that you will probably find lines that have the windows profile path as follows | 20:47 |
| inetpro | C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\Mail\ | 20:47 |
| Kilos | im sure pro will win | 20:47 |
| Langjan | ok I did match case | 20:47 |
| inetpro | linda: wb | 20:47 |
| linda | thks | 20:48 |
| inetpro | in fact | 20:49 |
| inetpro | rather than messing with that file | 20:49 |
| inetpro | let's try importing the folder again | 20:49 |
| inetpro | linda: please close gedit without saving | 20:49 |
| Langjan | ok done | 20:50 |
| inetpro | you clearly had a permission issue when you tried last time | 20:50 |
| inetpro | please do the following | 20:50 |
| inetpro | mv ~/.thunderbird/cgqcmz19.default/ ~/.thunderbird/linda/ | 20:51 |
| inetpro | Langjan: ^^ | 20:52 |
| linda | ja | 20:53 |
| inetpro | done? | 20:53 |
| linda | yes | 20:53 |
| inetpro | now let's wipe the profiles.ini and start a fresh one | 20:54 |
| inetpro | rm .thunderbird/profiles.ini | 20:54 |
| linda | done | 20:55 |
| inetpro | start thunderbird normally as if you just installed it | 20:55 |
| linda | same result | 20:56 |
| inetpro | now exit without setting up an account | 20:56 |
| inetpro | did it create a new profiles.ini ? | 20:56 |
| linda | ok | 20:56 |
| inetpro | ls -l .thunderbird/profiles.ini | 20:56 |
| inetpro | Langjan: ^^ | 20:58 |
| linda | -rw-rw-r-- 1 linda linda 94 Aug 16 22:55 .thunderbird/profiles.ini | 20:58 |
| inetpro | mooi! | 20:58 |
| inetpro | now start thunderbird with -p | 20:58 |
| inetpro | and create a new profile | 20:58 |
| inetpro | call it linda | 20:58 |
| inetpro | and choose the folder /home/linda/.thunderbird/linda/ | 20:59 |
| linda | (process:9697): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 20:59 |
| inetpro | that's fine | 20:59 |
| linda | nothing else | 21:00 |
| inetpro | click Finish | 21:00 |
| inetpro | what do you get? | 21:00 |
| linda | did not open file | 21:00 |
| inetpro | so it lands back on the cli? | 21:00 |
| inetpro | which is what I expect | 21:01 |
| linda | yes | 21:01 |
| inetpro | cat /home/linda/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | 21:01 |
| inetpro | you should now have two profiles | 21:02 |
| inetpro | Profile0 and Profile1 | 21:02 |
| linda | yes | 21:03 |
| inetpro | now start thunderbird -p again | 21:03 |
| inetpro | select linda and Start Thunderbird | 21:03 |
| linda | (process:9893): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 21:04 |
| linda | linda@linda-X55A:~$ | 21:04 |
| linda | back to cli | 21:04 |
| inetpro | the error can be ignored, are you sure Thunderbird has not started? | 21:05 |
| linda | lets see, no. Must I start it? | 21:05 |
| inetpro | 08/16 23:03:33 <inetpro> select linda and Start Thunderbird | 21:06 |
| linda | select linda? | 21:06 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 21:06 |
| linda | (process:9985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 21:07 |
| linda | thats all | 21:07 |
| inetpro | ai! | 21:07 |
| inetpro | ps -ef | grep thunderbird | 21:07 |
| Langjan | Where do I find the vertical line? | 21:08 |
| inetpro | on my keyboard together with \ | 21:09 |
| inetpro | below Backspace | 21:09 |
| Langjan | | | 21:09 |
| inetpro | yebo yes | 21:09 |
| inetpro | ps -ef | grep thunderbird | 21:09 |
| inetpro | that is a pipe charcater | 21:09 |
| inetpro | character as well | 21:09 |
| linda | linda 10075 9877 0 23:09 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird | 21:10 |
| linda | linda@linda-X55A:~$ | 21:10 |
| inetpro | ps is for reporting a snapshot of the current processes | 21:10 |
| inetpro | hmm... so thunderbird is not running | 21:10 |
| linda | no | 21:10 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -v | 21:11 |
| inetpro | ignore GLib-CRITICAL | 21:11 |
| linda | (process:10126): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 21:12 |
| linda | Thunderbird 31.8.0 | 21:12 |
| inetpro | cool, that is the latest version | 21:12 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 21:13 |
| inetpro | you sure it doesn't start the profile thingy? | 21:13 |
| Langjan | gives default profile | 21:13 |
| inetpro | only the deafult? | 21:13 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:13 |
| inetpro | ai! | 21:13 |
| inetpro | Exit | 21:14 |
| linda | done exit | 21:14 |
| inetpro | sudo apt-get install pastebinit | 21:17 |
| inetpro | Langjan: ^^ | 21:18 |
| Langjan | yes inetpro | 21:18 |
| inetpro | install pastebinit | 21:18 |
| Langjan | running | 21:19 |
| Langjan | done | 21:19 |
| inetpro | nice, it is a command-line pastebin client | 21:19 |
| inetpro | now lets' test that | 21:19 |
| inetpro | echo Hello World | pastebinit -a Langjan | 21:20 |
| Langjan | in my machine? | 21:20 |
| inetpro | on linda's machine | 21:20 |
| Langjan | ok | 21:21 |
| linda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12101970/ | 21:22 |
| inetpro | mooi! | 21:22 |
| inetpro | now next one still on linda's machine | 21:23 |
| Langjan | ok | 21:23 |
| inetpro | cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | pastebinit -a Langjan | 21:23 |
| linda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12101998/ | 21:24 |
| inetpro | hmm... now why do we not see the linda profile there? | 21:25 |
| inetpro | so let's try creating it again | 21:25 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 21:25 |
| Langjan | gives default | 21:26 |
| inetpro | Create profile | 21:26 |
| inetpro | Next | 21:26 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:27 |
| inetpro | Enter profile name: linda | 21:27 |
| inetpro | Choose folder: /home/linda/.thunderbird/linda/ | 21:27 |
| inetpro | click Finish | 21:27 |
| Langjan | ok | 21:28 |
| inetpro | done? | 21:28 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:28 |
| inetpro | now let me look at it | 21:28 |
| inetpro | cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | pastebinit -a Langjan | 21:28 |
| Langjan | terminal messing me around | 21:30 |
| inetpro | please explain that | 21:31 |
| Langjan | seems process still running | 21:31 |
| inetpro | did you click Finish? | 21:31 |
| Langjan | no | 21:31 |
| inetpro | ai! | 21:32 |
| inetpro | tell me when you've done it | 21:32 |
| Langjan | yes I did, sorry | 21:33 |
| inetpro | still waiting for the prompt? | 21:33 |
| Langjan | well terminal is making [[D etc when I try to edit | 21:33 |
| Langjan | close terminal? | 21:34 |
| inetpro | no | 21:34 |
| inetpro | when you press ENTER in the terminal does it go back to linda@linda-X55A:~$ | 21:34 |
| linda | NO | 21:34 |
| inetpro | ah, so it's still busy then | 21:35 |
| linda | I was doing cat.... command when it started going funny | 21:35 |
| inetpro | did you have the $ prompt ? | 21:36 |
| linda | (process:10993): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 21:36 |
| linda | cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | pastebin -a lNGJAN^[[D^[[D^[[D^[[B^[[D^[[D^[[D^[[D^[[A^[[A^[[D^[[A | 21:36 |
| linda | NO^[[DI was | 21:36 |
| linda | no | 21:36 |
| inetpro | ai! | 21:37 |
| inetpro | always wait for the prompt before typing the next command | 21:37 |
| linda | sorry boss! | 21:37 |
| linda | learning | 21:37 |
| inetpro | looks to me like the thunderbird profile is still running | 21:37 |
| inetpro | start a new terminal session | 21:38 |
| linda | force quit? | 21:38 |
| inetpro | no | 21:38 |
| linda | oh, ok did not nknow its possible | 21:39 |
| Langjan | the cat command? | 21:39 |
| inetpro | have you started another one yet? | 21:39 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:40 |
| inetpro | ps -ef | grep thunderbird | 21:40 |
| linda | linda 10993 9877 0 23:26 pts/0 00:00:01 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird -p | 21:41 |
| linda | linda 11391 11327 0 23:40 pts/10 00:00:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird | 21:41 |
| inetpro | ah you see, there's a 2nd one now | 21:41 |
| inetpro | remember when you did it earlier there was only one | 21:41 |
| Langjan | ok | 21:41 |
| Langjan | is that good? | 21:41 |
| inetpro | PID=10993 and 11391 | 21:42 |
| inetpro | PID = process ID | 21:42 |
| Langjan | must I run that? | 21:42 |
| inetpro | no | 21:42 |
| inetpro | explaining | 21:43 |
| inetpro | the grep line will always appear... technically not always | 21:43 |
| Langjan | what is pid? | 21:43 |
| inetpro | but expect to see it everytime you execute ps -ef | grep something | 21:43 |
| inetpro | PID = process ID | 21:43 |
| Langjan | proocess id | 21:43 |
| inetpro | we can forcefully kill a process by using the PID | 21:44 |
| Langjan | oh, ok | 21:44 |
| inetpro | the big question is, are yo sure you don't still see thunderbird running there? | 21:44 |
| inetpro | press Alt+Tab multiple times | 21:45 |
| Langjan | The choose user profile is still running | 21:45 |
| inetpro | ah... | 21:45 |
| Langjan | default and linda optins | 21:46 |
| inetpro | with what options on the screen? | 21:46 |
| Langjan | must have opened when proocess finished | 21:46 |
| inetpro | with what options on the screen? | 21:46 |
| Langjan | default and linda | 21:46 |
| inetpro | and? | 21:46 |
| inetpro | buttons? | 21:47 |
| Langjan | create, rename or dekete profile | 21:47 |
| inetpro | and? | 21:47 |
| Langjan | and exit or start tbird | 21:47 |
| inetpro | ah | 21:47 |
| inetpro | press exit | 21:47 |
| Langjan | and use selected profile without asking at atartup | 21:48 |
| inetpro | now look careful, you have two terminal sessions open now | 21:48 |
| Langjan | ok let me exit first? | 21:48 |
| inetpro | did you press Exit? | 21:48 |
| inetpro | ok | 21:48 |
| Langjan | not yet | 21:48 |
| Langjan | Ok exited, two terminals open | 21:49 |
| inetpro | on the one we opened last type exit and ENTER | 21:50 |
| Langjan | exit | 21:50 |
| inetpro | it should vanish | 21:50 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:50 |
| inetpro | are you back on the first? | 21:50 |
| Langjan | §rry, typing in wroong place | 21:50 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:50 |
| inetpro | now you should see the pastebinit result | 21:51 |
| Langjan | its done | 21:51 |
| inetpro | do you see it? | 21:51 |
| linda | linda@linda-X55A:~$ echo Hello World | pastebinit -a Langjan | 21:51 |
| linda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12102307/ | 21:51 |
| inetpro | no, not that | 21:52 |
| inetpro | let's try again | 21:52 |
| inetpro | cat ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini | pastebinit -a Langjan | 21:52 |
| Langjan | ok | 21:52 |
| linda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12102346/ | 21:53 |
| inetpro | if you want to make sure you have a clear screen... press Ctrl+C first and then ENTER and then clear and ENTER | 21:53 |
| inetpro | mooi | 21:54 |
| inetpro | pragtig!!!! | 21:54 |
| inetpro | nou let's go back to thunderbird -p | 21:54 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 21:54 |
| Langjan | I have default and linda again | 21:55 |
| inetpro | now choose linda | 21:55 |
| inetpro | and click [Start Thunderbird] | 21:55 |
| Langjan | ok | 21:55 |
| Langjan | nothing, blank | 21:56 |
| inetpro | ok, close it | 21:56 |
| Langjan | ai | 21:56 |
| inetpro | cat ~/.thunderbird/linda/prefs.js | pastebinit -a Langja | 21:57 |
| Langjan | ok closed | 21:57 |
| Langjan | Langjan? | 21:57 |
| inetpro | on Linda's machine | 21:57 |
| inetpro | but oops... make that Langjan or any other name you want :-) | 21:58 |
| inetpro | -a is to set the author | 21:58 |
| linda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12102379/ | 21:59 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 21:59 |
| Langjan | Have to go for quick leak | 21:59 |
| inetpro | ok | 21:59 |
| Langjan | is yikes goood or bad? | 22:00 |
| inetpro | that file is way too short | 22:01 |
| inetpro | and it's after midnight | 22:01 |
| Langjan | ok back again | 22:01 |
| Langjan | you want to call it a day? | 22:01 |
| inetpro | we really need to go sleep | 22:01 |
| Langjan | ja | 22:01 |
| inetpro | yeah, no choice, sorry oom | 22:02 |
| Langjan | ok, perhaps good to sleep over it anyway | 22:02 |
| inetpro | :-( | 22:02 |
| Langjan | no problem, really appreciated | 22:02 |
| Langjan | can we have another bash sometime? | 22:03 |
| inetpro | oh well, maybe a bit of sleep will help | 22:03 |
| inetpro | ja ons probeer maar later weer | 22:03 |
| Langjan | OK inetpro , baie dankie en slaap lekker | 22:04 |
| inetpro | good night | 22:04 |
| Langjan | night-night | 22:04 |
| inetpro | there's stull other options for sure | 22:05 |
| inetpro | still* | 22:05 |
| inetpro | good night | 22:05 |
| Langjan | thks, gives me hope | 22:05 |
| Langjan | sleep well | 22:05 |
| tumbleweed | Maaz: tell Kilos hi | 22:47 |
| Maaz | tumbleweed: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 22:47 |
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