[08:36] <glitchd> hello all
[08:36] <knome> hello
[08:37] <glitchd> having a weird problem..
[08:37] <glitchd> should i explain?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> glitchd, no
[08:37] <cfhowlett> let the telepaths handle it
[08:37] <glitchd> cfhowlett, ok thx..u can go now.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !details
[08:38] <glitchd> yea i get that, wasnt going to ask if there were just assholes in here that were gonna respond with the same shit you just did.
[08:38] <glitchd> so cfhowlett, u can take your leave now.
[08:39] <knome> glitchd, please watch the language as this is a family-friendly channel.
[08:39] <knome> glitchd, also, please watch the attitude as everybody here is a volunteer.
[08:40] <glitchd> knome, share your advice to cfhowlett.
[08:40] <glitchd> now back to my little problem.
[08:40] <cfhowlett> knome, to be fair, my response was unneccessarily snarky.  apologies to glitchd and everyone else.  still: I did NOT use profanity or insults.  anyway: not leaving.  let's move on
[08:40] <glitchd> agreed.
[08:41] <glitchd> i apologize for the profanity.
[08:41] <glitchd> im running xubuntu 15.04, i use a script to kill/turn off the monitor.
[08:42] <glitchd> when i activate then disable to script to wake th screen up, my dm dies and another one takes over and i have to log out or kill x to get back to my original dm.
[08:42] <glitchd> im trying to figure out why this happens, and how to stop or fix it
[08:43] <knome> so... you have created a script that is basically a screensaver, but it doesn't work
[08:43] <glitchd> here is the script that i use attached to a keyboard shortcut
[08:43] <glitchd> http://pastebin.com/TGwN0qRZ
[08:44] <glitchd> i didnt have this problem in previous ubuntu/xubuntu editions
[08:44] <knome> why don't you use a real screensaver?
[08:45] <glitchd> the power management doesnt work well enough to rely on it, so i had to find another way, also i wanted a way to activate it by a shortcut. also the script behaves in a certain way that am more inclined to
[08:46] <glitchd> i believe this installation is ubuntu 15.04 with xfce(xubuntu desktop) added to it
[08:46] <glitchd> so its not straight xubuntu 15.04
[08:47] <glitchd> it happens randomly that it kills the desktop manager and returns me to a different dm
[08:48] <glitchd> if someone could look at the script and tell me if u see anything in there that would maybe cause this, i would appreciate it.
[08:48] <glitchd> ive searched and searched for an answer and never found one, now im here.
[09:00] <glitchd> is there any other information i can provide to possibly help find the answer?
[09:08] <glitchd> anyone?
[09:08] <Unit193> In addition to this script, do you have light-locker or whatever Ubuntu uses installed and enabled?
[09:11] <glitchd> Unit193, im not sure..
[09:11] <glitchd> *yes it is installed
[09:12] <glitchd> let me rephrase the question
[09:13] <glitchd> is there anything that would cause dpms to switch de's when i power off the screen?
[09:16] <glitchd> thx anyways..
[11:37] <xubuntu92d> s.a
[12:00] <xubuntu06w> how do i get xubuntu desktop to a solid black colour?
[12:01] <xubuntu06w> first time user and the first thing i need to do i cant
[12:01] <xubuntu06w> pictures etc ae distracting
[12:01] <xubuntu06w> anyone help on a sunday orning :)
[12:02] <xubuntu06w> i suppose i could take a black picture?
[12:03] <Unit193> xfdesktop-settings → Solid Color
[12:04] <xubuntu06w> in terminal?
[12:05] <xubuntu06w> i tried the desktop settings
[12:05] <Unit193> Well, there's a button in the settings manager, but yeah that too.
[12:05] <xubuntu06w> chose to black solid colours
[12:05] <xubuntu06w> then chose solid colour
[12:06] <xubuntu06w> then closed the window
[12:06] <xubuntu06w> nothing changed
[12:07] <Unit193> You have to select Style: None
[12:08] <xubuntu06w> AHHHHHHH
[12:08] <xubuntu06w> ty
[12:08] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[12:08] <xubuntu06w> you have made my sunday morning
[12:08] <xubuntu06w> now i can go shower and get on with my day :D
[12:08] <Unit193> \o/
[12:09] <xubuntu06w> i think i ma like xubuntu
[12:09] <Unit193> I do. :P
[12:10] <xubuntu06w> well i have been stick with winblows so many years and been spoon fed its hard to change imo
[16:00] <makem> hi i need a basic finance package - have tried homebank but it does not do yuan
[16:00] <makem> i need yuan and gbp
[16:01] <cfhowlett> makem, ask the chinese channels or ubuntukylin
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !cn | makem
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !kylin | makem
[16:01] <makem> im not chinese lol
[16:01] <makem> but my wife is and i deal with all finances
[16:02] <makem> so i need uk package with foreign currency
[16:02] <makem> i use ms money atm
[16:03] <cfhowlett> makem, ubuntu software center: search term: finance
[16:03] <makem> k
[16:04] <makem> veryy annoying as i was getting on so well with homebank
[16:04] <makem> multiple currencies is a must imo
[16:05] <flocculant> gnucash maybe work for you
[16:05] <makem> i do like this xubuntu tho :D
[16:05] <makem> aye i heard of that one
[16:06] <makem> must research more before using
[16:06] <flocculant> http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.4/C/gnucash-guide/index.html
[16:06] <makem> cheers
[16:07] <makem> looks abit ott on the face of it but will see
[16:08] <flocculant> probably is if you want something simple
[16:08] <makem> i could still use it if nothing else
[16:09] <makem> i tried kmymoney a while ago
[16:10] <flocculant> as cfhowlett said - search in usc - there are a few there
[16:10] <makem> it worked but seemed a bit cluncky
[16:10] <makem> yeah have done
[16:11] <cfhowlett> makem, try USC "accounting" for different options
[16:12] <makem> wxbanker does not get updates - that is not good?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> Grisbi is a personal accounting program. Grisbi can handle multiple accounts, currencies and users.
[16:13] <makem> have u used it
[16:13] <cfhowlett> nope.
[16:13] <makem> k
[16:14] <cfhowlett> read the reviews for MS Money comparison
[16:14] <makem> where?
[16:14] <makem> sorry to be such a newbie lol
[16:14] <cfhowlett> USC grisbi
[16:14] <makem> ah.......am doing that with all
[16:16] <makem> seems the 'does not provide updates' is common so maybe not consider that
[16:18] <flocculant> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6055/what-does-this-canonical-does-not-provide-updates-mean-in-my-package-manage
[16:19] <flocculant> that should help you work out what that update statement means
[16:20] <makem> ok but i am going with eqonomise atm
[16:20] <flocculant> where you finding that?
[16:21] <makem> USC
[16:21] <flocculant> nvm
[16:21] <flocculant> hah
[16:22] <makem> seems to have what ms money has
[16:22] <flocculant> just so long as you realise that you'll be installing bunches of kde libs with it
[16:22] <makem> i dont use it online so no security there
[16:22] <makem> is that not good?
[16:23] <makem> i shd think most banking would need lot of libs
[16:23] <flocculant> I've used kde things in not kde distros before - just making you aware is all
[16:23] <makem> ah
[16:23] <makem> i thought what i found in USC when using xbuntu was sutable
[16:24] <makem> so what is this distro?
[16:26] <makem> i dont understand hde v xubuntu
[16:26] <cfhowlett> makem, all programs in USC are distro agnostic.   they MIGHT need pieces of different desktop environments.
[16:26] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[16:27] <makem> so xubuntu is Xfc
[16:28] <makem> does that mean i shd search for Xfc packages first and if none suitable look elsewhere
[16:28] <makem> Xfce
[16:28] <krytarik> makem: GTK+ ones.
[16:28] <cfhowlett> makem, no.  ubuntu packages are ubuntu packages.
[16:28] <makem> ok
[16:29] <cfhowlett> any USC package is capable of running on any ubuntu !flavor
[16:29] <krytarik> makem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/249150/what-is-kde-gtk-gtk-qt-and-or-gnome
[16:29] <makem> back to eqonomise
[16:29] <makem> will check out the urls ty
[17:23] <xubuntu183> bonjour
[17:23] <DalekSec> !fr | xubuntu183
[17:23] <xubuntu183> j'aurais besoin d'aide
[17:51] <makem> grisi looked ok but now i find it does not give total woth as it keeps gbp and rmb sepaate
[17:51] <makem> separate
[20:08] <xubuntu260> bonjour
[20:09] <knome> hello.
[21:37] <makem> two questions please
[21:38] <makem> 1. is there a package similar to the ms 'start programs'?
[21:38] <holstein> makem: lots of start menus and launchers..
[21:39] <makem> 2. i need to encrypt two files and decrypt /encrypt with right click
[21:39] <makem> is there such a package?
[21:39] <xangua> xubuntu comes with whisker menu
[21:39] <makem> ty i didnt see that in the list
[21:40] <makem> so must e install
[21:41] <drc> makem: No, Whisker Menu is installed as the default menu system
[21:42] <makem> by default menu system you mean the favs, recently used etc list?
[21:43] <drc> Yes...click on the mouse icon in the upper left corner and the menu that results is the Whicker menu.
[21:43] <makem> now i knows its name :)
[21:44] <drc> right mouse click on it and it shows you the name :)
[21:44] <makem> lol trust me not to ty that
[21:45] <makem> so much to learn after ms
[21:46] <drc> Yes there is, but it's not illogical...take it one step at a time and don't try to learn it all at once...and one day you'll be answering questions here :)
[21:46] <makem> yes i appreciate that
[21:46] <makem> but i need to quickly get the basic things i use set up so i can dump windows
[21:47] <makem> ive found xubuntu best so far and easiest to understand