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Logandoes someone want to do a quick no-change rebuild of a package in main for me? pretty please? :P00:59
Loganit's to fix an FTBFS of a package that build-depends on it00:59
TheMusoLogan: Sure, whats the package?01:04
Logan:D01:04
Loganruby-nokogiri01:04
Logansee https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-fog-xml/0.1.1-5/+build/764340401:04
Loganthe Ruby 2.2 test is failing because it can't import nokogiri/nokogiri.so... because ruby-nokogiri wasn't built against Ruby 2.201:04
Loganand the shared objects are split up by Ruby version in Rubyland01:05
TheMusoSo with this no-change rebuild, do you want that other package retried once this is published?01:05
Loganyou can steal this changelog entry that I used for ruby-curb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-curb/0.8.8-1build1 :)01:05
TheMusoThanks.01:06
LoganI can retry it since it's in universe01:06
TheMusoOh ok.01:06
Loganwe should probably have a transition tracker for this - not sure what I'd make the rule be01:07
TheMusoI don't usually involve myself in bigger transitions, but happy to take care of this since its a quick rebuild.01:08
Logancheers :)01:09
Logansmart move ;P01:09
TheMusoheh01:09
TheMusoJust doing a quick build to make sure it does in fact build, then will upload.01:10
Logandid that locally too, but I figured you'd do it again either way :P01:10
Loganas a good core dev01:10
TheMusoOf course, it may yet fail on an arch we haven't tested it on, but I doubt it.01:11
Logantrue01:11
TheMusoLogan: Ok done.01:11
Loganthanks so much!01:11
TheMusoYou're welcome.01:11
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dholbachgood morning07:16
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alkisgstgraber: for ubuntu 15.10, what's the best thing to do considering the ltsp-client-core service? We currently ship sysvinit and upstart jobs, should we also ship a systemd service file? Do we remove the upstart job? Can we keep all 3 of them for easier backporting, and have debconf select which one to install?08:43
darkxstwhat is this!?!? https://www.facebook.com/events/1686258078264110/ http://www.ubuntuplanet.org/10:25
darkxstcan he even do that? steal trademarks, or is ubuntu itself not trademarked?10:27
sil2100pitti: ping, hey, you around on IRC? I would like to request a manual test-run of langpack-o-matic for ubuntu-rtm/15.04 :)10:30
maxb http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy10:35
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sil2100@pilot in10:43
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darkxstmaxb, I just emailed the links to legal, not like anyone around here is likely to know the answers really!10:45
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popeyIs there a limit on how long a build can take in an (armhf) ppa? A build I started seems to have died, and I don't know why.. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/214631002/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-armhf.libreoffice-vanilla_1%3A5.0.0~rc3.1-1ubuntu1~wily4_BUILDING.txt.gz "dpkg-buildpackage died"11:28
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cjwatsonpopey: there's an inactivity limit, but that's not what happened here11:32
cjwatsonpopey: your build is at least partly parallelised, so the real error will be buried a bit further up (because it took some running jobs a while to finish after the error)11:32
popeyah11:33
cjwatsonqemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped11:33
cjwatsonSegmentation fault (core dumped)11:33
cjwatsonchecking for snprintf... /«PKGBUILDDIR»/external/jfreereport/ExternalProject_jfreereport_libbase.mk:20: recipe for target '/«PKGBUILDDIR»/workdir/ExternalProject/jfreereport_libbase/build' failed11:33
cjwatsonmake[2]: *** [/«PKGBUILDDIR»/workdir/ExternalProject/jfreereport_libbase/build] Error 13911:33
cjwatsonmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....11:33
cjwatsonthis is probably one that doesn't work under qemu-user-static11:33
cjwatsonnot very surprising for libreoffice11:33
popeybum11:34
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popeyis there a way I can build on real hardware (assuming that would be more successful)?11:35
cjwatsononly if that PPA will never have non-Canonical uploaders11:35
popeyprobably not for _that_ ppa.11:35
cjwatsonyou can create a dedicated PPA with limited uploaders, and ask webops to make it devirtualised and add armhf11:36
popeyokay, will do, thanks.11:36
cjwatsonand then copy from that PPA to this one11:36
popeygot it.11:36
cjwatsonor you can wait for arm scalingstack to be done11:36
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dholbach:)12:22
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roaksoaxok14:42
melodiehi14:57
melodieinfinity if you are around, I would have two questions related to zram-config in Trusty 14.04.3. first question, is it normal, with the zram-config package installed in the live, once the live installed to hdd zram-config does not start and even, refuses to start? (here is a pastebin : http://pastebin.fr/40804 )14:59
melodiethe second question will related to the amount of RAM available in the machine (the part in the compcache script located in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks)15:00
infinityThe compcache script doesn't relate at all to zram-config.15:02
melodiehi infinity15:02
melodieyes, it's part of the initramfs-tools15:02
melodieI just checked with dpkg -S15:02
infinityAnd 'initctl: Unknown job: zram-config' implies there's no job to start.15:02
melodiewhy is that? it's installed so why does it not start?15:03
infinitymelodie: upstart doens't know it's installed, so something's wrong with your setup, IMO.15:04
melodiewhat do I need to do to investigate?15:05
infinityWell, for starters, does /etc/init/zram-config.conf exist?15:05
melodieno it doesn't15:06
infinityWell, there you go.15:06
infinityIt should. :P15:06
melodieif it's in the package why didn't it land there?15:06
melodie(in the live, it does work)15:06
infinitymelodie: Given that I didn't install your system, I don't know the answer to your question.15:07
melodieI see it in the "dpkg -L" output though15:07
infinitymelodie: Something or something deleted it, I guess.15:07
melodie:/15:07
melodieanyway this explains why it works again once removed and installed again15:09
melodiethank you infinity15:10
melodieif you have any idea how I could investigate further, I would like to find out15:10
infinityNot really sure, given that I have no idea how you're installing things.15:11
melodieit is in a list of packages I install in a chroot before building the iso (with Ubuntu-Builder)15:11
melodiethe basis used is Ubuntu Mini Remix which contains the bare minimum15:12
infinityRight, I don't know that tool at all, so I'd be debugging from scratch.15:12
melodieyou helped me already, I have a start on which  dig15:13
melodiethank you very much15:13
melodieabout initramfs-tools, I see it's the kernel team which is in charge, and in the file compcache there is a limitation for the amount of ram : it says "if we are in a machine where there is more than 512MB ram, then we don't start zram in the live". but when I tested Lubuntu live, in a machine with 1GB zram was active. where can I get info about how that works?15:16
infinitymelodie: Like I said, that has NOTHING to do with zram-config.15:18
infinityThat code should just be torn out of initramfs-tools (or replaced by zram-config) when I find the time.15:19
infinitymelodie: lubuntu is using zram-config, not the initramfs-tools stuff.15:19
ogra_infinity, iirc that code was a hack to make it possible to support 256M installs ... i think our minimal reqs. were bumped since then15:26
ogra_(so yeah, just wipe it from the face of the earth)15:26
melodiehi ogra_15:31
melodieinfinity I know lubuntu is using zram-config, yet initramfs-tools are probably installed there too?15:32
melodieogra_ the comment says that "it should not be started if there is more than 512" which I find very strange15:33
infinitymelodie: Yes, but just ignore that bit.  It's inconsequential.15:33
infinitymelodie: The comment is commenting what the code *does*.15:33
melodieinfinity ok15:33
melodieI know what comments are for :D15:33
melodievery helpful15:33
infinitymelodie: It only runs compcache stuff on really low ram systems.  It's also, as ogra points out, obsolete.15:33
ogra_well, the code might be broken since :)15:34
tseliotinfinity: what can I do to help get nvidia 352 in wily?15:34
infinitytseliot: Buy an AA a coffee?15:34
melodieogra_ in the Openbox version I do, I want zram-config to work on the live and in the install15:34
ogra_melodie, then use zram-config15:34
ogra_the compcache script in initramfs-tools is completely unrelated15:35
melodieogra_ zram-config is indeed installed in all versions15:35
melodieI didn't know it was unrelated15:35
ogra_well, fine then :)15:35
tseliotinfinity: how much coffee would that be? You promised you'd do it. It's been a month now, and I'd like to be able to upload a newer release before I go on holiday :)15:36
infinityNot quite a month yet.15:36
infinityClose, though. :/15:36
infinityI'll find some time today while kernel sprinting.15:36
melodieogra_ not fully fine because "something" makes /etc/init/zram-config.conf disappear between the live session and the install. I need to find what causes that. :/15:36
infinityI hope.15:36
tseliotinfinity: thanks15:37
ogra_melodie, yeah, but thats unrelated to the compcache script for sure :)15:38
melodieogra_ I have no idea what it is related to so I am starting to investigate. I have a vbox machine running on the tower now, and I launched the installer. I look into /var/log/installer to see what files are created there. I hope it's the right place?15:55
ogra_for live boots there is a casper log somewhere (i forgot where, its years that i looked into that last)15:56
melodieogra_ ok16:07
cjwatsonpitti,Laney: I'm confused by http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#haskell-hoogle - it says test in progress for armhf, but the link is 40416:47
melodieinfinity ogra_ I found where my issue was : zram-config.conf was not in the iso of the 64bits version to start with. I am now redoing the iso16:54
melodieusing infinity's piece of script provided former, to not start daemons in a chroot.16:54
melodiein the 32bits version I don't have the issue16:54
ogra_but only half the bits !16:55
ogra_:)16:55
melodiewhere I am astonished : to fix it in an install, I tried first to reinstall it : but this didn't work16:55
melodieI first had to remove it completely and then install it anew16:55
melodiehow come the simple re-install would not add the missing file?16:56
melodieogra_ yes, half the bits for half sized bus :D16:56
cjwatsonif it's a conffile, simple reinstall preserves the local change that the conffile is removed - you'd need to pass -o Dpkg::options::=--force-confmiss16:58
cjwatson(to apt-get)16:58
melodiehello cjwatson16:58
melodiejust as is?16:59
melodiecjwatson and conf file yes, it bears ".conf" as a name extension, while it's really a start file (isn't it strange to have start files having for name and role "conf files" ?)17:00
cjwatsonconffile is a technical term not relating to the file extension17:00
cjwatsonbut files in /etc that are shipped in .debs are generally conffiles17:00
melodieyes?17:00
cjwatsonand yes, just as is17:01
melodiethis one is specifically in /etc/init17:01
cjwatsonI don't care17:01
melodie:)17:01
melodieok17:01
melodiecjwatson thank you17:02
cjwatsonnp17:02
cjwatsonpitti,Laney: never mind, seems to have cleared up by itself18:02
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