[06:27] <Tm_T> why youtube scope identifies itself as "default project"?
[06:29] <Tm_T> actually apparently there's several
[07:16] <dholbach> good morning
[07:20] <nocomp> ola folks
[07:21] <nocomp> since i ve switched to rc-proposed no more developper options
[07:21] <nocomp> can t enable debug mode
[07:21] <nocomp> am i missing something?
[08:40] <nhaines> I noticed that the Photos scope isn't in the store anymore.  Whom can I email to fix that?
[08:58] <popey> nhaines: which photos scope, there's more than one.
[08:58] <popey> nhaines: e.g. https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.canonical.scopes.photos-local
[09:00] <nhaines> popey: that would be the Local Photos scop.
[09:00] <nhaines> I mean the aggregate scope.
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> there was an rss feed i loved indeed i cant find either anymore
[09:10] <popey> nhaines: doesn't look like that one ever was in the store
[09:10] <nhaines> In that case I think it should be!
[09:10] <popey> I agree :)
[09:10] <popey> cwayne: com.canonical.scopes.photos isn't in the store..
[09:11] <nhaines> Now if only the Today scope could be fixed so that it shows the date/sunrise/sunset times.... like, in the next hour so I have a screenshot for my book!
[09:11] <nhaines> Although I'm a bit annoyed because I'm positive I've taken screenshots of it before.  :)
[09:12] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-08-17-101237.png
[09:12] <davmor2> nhaines: pull down to refresh
[09:12] <popey> like that?
[09:13] <nhaines> popey: like that!
[09:13] <popey> use that if you want
[09:13] <davmor2> nhaines: there is a fix for it in the image in test for ota6
[09:13] <nhaines> davmor2: I've been doing that for like 2 hours now.... including after the update to v1.9
[09:13] <nhaines> popey: extremely appreciated!
[09:13] <popey> nhaines: just shout if there's any other screenshots you need.
[09:13] <davmor2> nhaines: you would need to update the day scope not the today scope
[09:14] <nhaines> davmor2: is it in the store?  :)
[09:14] <davmor2> nhaines: no idea
[09:14] <davmor2> nhaines: it is in the current rc-proposed image
[09:15] <nhaines> popey: thanks!  It's in an appendix, so my editors probably won't be too keen if I waste enough time on it to delay things, but my Nexus 5 and 7 usually works well enough. :)
[09:15] <nhaines> davmor2: is there away I could dissect that image and push the scope to my Nexus 5?
[09:16] <nhaines> cwayne: also the Day scope isn't in the stoer!
[09:16] <davmor2> nhaines: cwayne might be able to help you but that won't be till after lunch as he is in US timezone
[09:17] <popey> you could build it from source surely?
[09:17] <nhaines> davmor2: so am I, so it might all work out.  :)
[09:17] <nhaines> popey: that's a vague possibility!
[09:17] <popey> davmor2: also, what is this "Day" scope?
[09:18] <davmor2> popey: it the thing that provides the day/date/sunrise/sunset/moon phase bits to the today scope
[09:18] <popey> ah
[09:19] <popey> com.canonical.scopes.day ...
[09:23] <brunch875> Is there a way to make QApplication work on the device? I want to skip QML and use the graphics view framework...
[09:24] <brunch875> Or... any non-horrible way to do qtquick on c++ entirely? :p
[09:29] <brunch875> maybe there's a better channel to ask this...
[09:32] <popey> brunch875: yes #ubuntu-app-devel
[09:32] <brunch875> thanks popey!
[10:48] <cwayne> nhaines: its not in the store because its an 'invisible' scope, i.e. it doesnt show up in "Manage Dash"
[10:49] <cwayne> ie. its only aggregated into Today
[10:49] <cwayne> so itd be a bit crap to go install a scope and not have it show up in your list of scopes
[10:49] <popey> cwayne: can it be uninstalled?
[10:49] <popey> well, you don't need to answer that
[10:49] <popey> it can be uninstalled
[10:50] <popey> meaning you can get wedged, uninstalled and not re-installable
[10:50] <cwayne> hm, well i know its going to be updated in ota6, i wonder whether or not that would bring it back
[10:51] <nhaines> cwayne: mostly I want to get ahold of it somehow to push to my phone an allow for a decent screenshot . :)  Also so my phone works right.
[10:52] <nhaines> Unfortunately, there's no rc-proposed build for the N5.  :/
[10:53] <davidcalle> nhaines, crossing fingers for a devel-proposed working again soon on n5, haven't tried today
[10:54] <nhaines> And it's definitely not working on my Nexus 7.
[10:54] <nhaines> davidcalle: ooh, that would be fun.  :)  I'm just sitting on stable there.  Which is great except for things like this!
[10:59]  * davidcalle crosses fingers and taps "Install..."
[11:08] <nhaines> Hmm, my Nexus 7 doesn't seem to respond to a USB keyboard now.  Or to a Bluetooth one.
[11:08] <popey> yeah, mine isn't working either
[12:10] <cwayne> tvoss: heya, we were looking at doing some confinement tests, and we'd need to programatically drop everything in trustdb, is there any easy way to do that?
[12:10] <tvoss> cwayne, not easily, I'm afraid. However, deleting the .db file shouldbe fine
[12:49] <mardy> jdstrand: hi! I have some questions about click-reviewers-tool, do you have some time?
[13:15] <jdstrand> mardy: hey, fire away
[13:19] <mardy> jdstrand: so, I'm preparing a simplified hook for online accounts, which at the moment provides the same functionality of the account-applications and account-service hooks
[13:19] <mardy> jdstrand: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/simplify-hooks/+merge/267525
[13:20] <mardy> jdstrand: this hook is a json file which will be processed and out of it we'll generate the .application and .service files
[13:21] <mardy> jdstrand: my goal would be to make it so, that is an app uses a framework >= 15.10, it can use only this hook ("accounts"), while "account-applications" and "account-service" should trigger a manual review
[13:21] <jdstrand> ok
[13:21] <mardy> jdstrand: is the click-review-tool able to encode this logic?
[13:21] <jdstrand> yes
[13:22] <mardy> jdstrand: is it via the peer_hooks initialization parameter?
[13:22] <mardy> jdstrand: is there another project which similar logic, which I might use as inspiration?
[13:22] <jdstrand> no
[13:23] <jdstrand> you'd want to do it somewhere else
[13:23] <mardy> jdstrand: in one check_...() method?
[13:23] <jdstrand> with peer_hooks you just say "in general, these hooks must be/can be specified with this one"
[13:23] <jdstrand> then if you go more specific, do it in a check_
[13:23] <mardy> ok
[13:24] <mardy> jdstrand: and all the check_ methods are run automatically, right?
[13:24] <jdstrand> it sounds like you are going to need to mock up that json file. that is trickier than it probably needs to be, but just look at what is being mocked up with the other online accounts and you should get there
[13:24] <jdstrand> mardy: yes
[13:26] <jdstrand> (obviously, the mocking is only for the testsuite updates)
[13:26] <mardy> jdstrand: cool, thanks, I'll give it a try
[13:26] <jdstrand> np
[13:55] <tmess> hey guys... i wanted to port Ubuntu Touch to a device as my Minor Project at my college... It has a deadline to submit a working solution on 12th December (Some modules not working would do)
[13:55] <tmess> Will this be a good Idea?
[13:56] <popey> tmess: depends on the device, some are easier than others
[13:56] <popey> but it's a good chunk of work to do
[13:56] <tmess> yeah... i have a team of 4... 3 of them hard workers...
[13:57] <tmess> ill get their device models in a min.... maybe you could help me figure that out...
[13:59] <cwayne> lol what about the last guy, not a hard worker?
[13:59] <ogra_> doesnt matter how hard your workers work ... more about what knowledge do they brin in ?
[13:59] <ogra_> *bring
[13:59] <ogra_> you need to know a lot about android to do a port ... along with knowing a bit about ubuntu
[14:00] <tmess> @cwayne yeah.... hes more of a .... Let's say public figure... more socially sound than the rest of us
[14:00] <tmess> Knowledgable people .... and they learn quick...
[14:01] <tmess> Ive built a cm rom before.... just downloaded a repo and compiled it...
[14:01] <tmess> According to the Ubuntu Build Guide... ive already done half the work before....
[14:01] <ogra_> yeah, it is more about knowing which bits to disable and how to disable them in a non-breaking way
[14:02] <mcphail> tmess: do one for the Samsung Galaxy S3 19300!! (a) it seems to be the device most people ask about and (b) I've got one :)
[14:02] <ogra_> if you already know how to build AOSP and have the necessary AOSP tree for your device that surely a good start
[14:03] <tmess> we've got a OnePlus One, a Nexus 5, Moto G3,
[14:03] <tmess> @mcphail I would if I had it.... :/
[14:03] <mcphail> tmess: never mind :)
[14:04] <tmess> and a lenovo... model coming in... @mcphail Hope you get it soon :)
[14:04] <ogra_> mcphail could send you his ;)
[14:04] <mcphail> ha!
[14:04]  * ogra_ grins
[14:04] <tmess> @orga that sounds good.... @mcphail Donations are always welcome
[14:05] <mcphail> tmess: :)
[14:06] <tmess> orga... whats ur say?  OnePlus Moto G3  or Lenovo... I believe nexus 5 would already have one
[14:06] <mcphail> tmess: It would be great for someone to blog their way through a port, including hurdles and pitfalls. You could task colleague #4 with that one
[14:06] <tmess> id do it myself.... post it for u somewhere for sure
[14:07] <mcphail> tmess: brilliant
[14:07] <ogra_> tmess, the oneplus has one thats 80% done, the N5 indeed has a full port due to it beig in the upstream AOSP tree thats a trivial one ... just needs some more help i think
[14:07] <ogra_> (one plus need some more help i mean)
[14:09] <tmess> problem is... they would expect me to do a completely from scratch build..... not just helping someone out for the next 3-4 months
[14:17] <tmess> btw the 4th one is asus zenfone 2
[14:21] <tmess> I'm just gonna post this again in case someone else can answer....
[14:21] <tmess> i wanted to port Ubuntu Touch to a device as my Minor Project at my college... It has a deadline to submit a working solution on 12th December (Some modules not working would do)
[14:21] <tmess> I have a OnePlus One, A nexus 5 , Moto G3, Asus Zenfone2
[14:23] <popey> Not sure what you want people to say?
[14:24] <popey> blimey, that asus zenfone2 is cheap
[14:24] <tmess> I want people to say go for it.... hahaha
[14:24] <popey> ooh, Atom.
[14:24] <mcphail> popey: how cheap?
[14:25] <popey> ~130 quid
[14:25] <tmess> I wanna know a definite ---ish answer by tonight... I have to submit a proposal tomorrow itsself
[14:25] <mcphail> tmess: do the Atom!
[14:25] <popey> unless I am misreading the google stuffs
[14:25] <tmess> Yeah it is cheap
[14:25] <popey> would have some interesting challenges
[14:25] <popey> which would be great to solve.
[14:26] <tmess> But not great enough to risk my entire year at college :(
[14:29] <popey> tmess: i personally think this would be quite an interesting project
[14:30] <ogra_> i would define the level you consider success in advance though ...
[14:30] <popey> yeah
[14:30] <ogra_> getting rild to work is really hairy on some devices
[14:30] <ogra_> so i wouldnt make "making calls" mandatory :)
[14:31] <ogra_> bluetooth is usually in the same realm
[14:51] <maggots> where are the webapps location on the phone
[14:52] <m0n5t3r> sturmflut2: do you know anyone else poking at the bq e4.5 hardware? I'm trying to get to talk to my phone (flashes fine, won't boot), and I'm trying to figure out the serial port
[14:54] <m0n5t3r> scope timings seem to indicate 921600 baud, but it's all gibberish, so it's not that; 115200 will display a few words on boot-up, then switch to another speed and display gibberish again
[14:55] <maggots> where are the webapps stored on the phone
[14:55] <maggots> what location
[14:55] <dobey> maggots: they're click packages, they are stored in the same place as native apps
[14:55] <maggots> and where is that?
[14:55] <dobey> in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ (unless you're asking about pre-installed apps or something)
[14:55] <maggots> nope, thank you
[18:17] <ted> Is it a good idea to try a wily image yet?
[18:17] <popey> no
[18:24] <guest42315> yes
[18:26] <ted> :-(
[18:26] <ted> Is there something else people are using to validate wily silos?
[18:26] <ted> Like a known good image number?
[18:38] <dobey> ted: on what device?
[18:38] <ted> mako?
[18:38] <ted> That's usually what I use to test silos.
[18:39] <dobey> ted: i think 273 or 274 should boot there; but good luck installing anything that's c++ and was built against current wily-proposed
[18:40] <dobey> i think i'll try to boot the current image on my mako now though, just to see if it'll boot
[18:46] <dobey> ooh, well i got the splash screen this time at least
[18:46] <dobey> yay
[18:48] <dobey> seems to be all i'm getting though
[18:48] <dobey> oh nice
[18:48] <dobey> unity8 keeps crashing
[18:48] <greyback_> dobey: suspect it's this stuck in proposed http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtmir
[18:49] <dobey> oh and the keyboard crashed too
[18:49] <greyback_> if unity8 doesn't come up, every graphical app will crash too
[18:54] <dobey> greyback_: yeah, i installed the qtmir from proposed and it comes up again
[18:54] <dobey> ted: so latest image plus the two qtmir packages from proposed, will get a booting wily on mako :)
[18:55] <greyback_> dobey: cool, will repoke fginther with that info
[18:55] <ted> \o/ SHIP IT!
[19:38] <ted> Ah, and as soon as I go to do that, it migrates.
[20:32] <cwayne> anyone seeing drastically reduced battery life on arale?
[21:37] <jgdx> cwayne, yes
[21:40] <jgdx> or, compared to a recent revision or e.g. krillin?
[22:39] <Talustus> hi :)
[22:39] <Talustus> any idea how to get ADB access to a device i ported ubuntu where the display currently dopes not work
[22:40] <Talustus> tried the solution on the porting guide with replacing the adb bin but that does not work
[23:36] <bkchr> Hi. At the moment I'm trying to build a kernel for my Oneplus One. The kernel compiles and the devices boots, but the screen won't activate and I don't get any adb connection. Does someone has an idea where I could get more information why the screen isn't coming up?
[23:45] <popey> bkchr: you should speak to mariogrip - he has a oneplus one port I believe.
[23:46] <bkchr> Okay thank you :)