[00:00] <TJ-> tutolato: yes
[00:00] <tutolato> and after that, connecting the external usb?
[00:00] <TJ-> tutolato: and hope you don't have systemd journald stealing the kernel messages!
[00:00] <TJ-> tutolato: correct :)
[00:02] <tutolato> so i executed the tail command and then plugged in the external hdd, but in the terminal nothing changes
[00:02] <TJ-> tutolato: when you started the tail command... did you see about 10 lines of history displayed (which tells us kern.log is in use) ?
[00:03] <tutolato> Aug 17 ****** MateBook kernel: [ 126.xx] usb 1-1:
[00:03] <tutolato> yes
[00:03] <TJ-> tutolato: OK... that seems to confirm there's an issue with the USB side... you've not accidentally pulled the cable out so the connector isn't fully mating?
[00:04] <tutolato> ahaha
[00:04] <tutolato> oh yes
[00:04] <tutolato> ...
[00:04] <tutolato> :D
[00:04] <TJ-> What? was that it!?!
[00:04] <tutolato> yup :o
[00:04] <TJ-> Doh!
[00:05] <tutolato> :^)
[00:05] <tutolato> thanks xD
[00:05] <TJ-> I/m glad I always remember to return to "check the cables, stupid!" ")
[00:05] <tutolato> that would be to easy
[00:06] <TJ-> easy solution though... happy ending. better do some good file-system checks before using it again
[00:06] <tutolato> haha thanks, i learned a new way to troubleshoot with tail
[00:07] <tutolato> bye :)
[00:08] <sreggingnikcuf> are black people allowed to use Ubuntu?
[00:10] <HadesWatch3r> I have installed Ubuntu 14.04.03... used LVM on a single hdd... I have 2 others... I want to add them to lvm ... I have formatted them with the disk utility as luks compatible ... how do I tell Luks to use them and that space now?
[00:11] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: you seem to be mixing up your terms. LUKS and LVM are different things entirely
[00:11] <not2but1> sreggingnikcuf - good question.
[00:12] <HadesWatch3r> TJ- no doubt..
[00:12] <HadesWatch3r> I have used lvm to encrypt the first drive during install.. I want to add the other two to that space volume now..
[00:12] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: LUKS is encryption; LVM is volume management
[00:12] <HadesWatch3r> TJ- Yes, right.
[00:13] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: so, you cannot use LVM to encrypt a drive
[00:13] <HadesWatch3r> TJ- ok.
[00:14] <HadesWatch3r> How can I add my other two drives to LVM.
[00:14] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: if you're using LUKS encryption, you'd use the "cryptsetup" tool to format/open it
[00:15] <HadesWatch3r> TJ- Appreciate your replies. I have used the Disks utility in Ubuntu to format/encrypt the other two drives... (at least that is what I believe I have done.)
[00:16] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: if you have several LVM physical devices (PVs) you can add the PVs to an existing Volume Group (VG) using "vgextend" see "man vgextend" - something like "sudo vgextend VG /dev/PV1 /dev/PV2" (where PV1/2 are something like /dev/sdc or other block device)
[00:16] <HadesWatch3r> TJ- Will do, thansk.
[00:16] <HadesWatch3r> thanks.
[00:17] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: maybe that tool combines the operations - I generally work with the command-line tools rather than GUI for such things, so I'm not sure what that tool is capable of
[00:18] <ElevyNJ> Hello. I have a laptop with a cracked screen. Ubuntu is installed. How do I redirect the display to a monitor I have attached to it?
[00:19] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: can you ssh into it from another PC?
[00:20] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: alternatively, can you read the screen well enough to execute a command at a shell command line ?
[00:20] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, Yes I can see the right side of the screen
[00:21] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: if you can get a terminal in that area, and first run "xrandr" it'll list the video outputs available. Then you can use something like "xrandr --output <name> --auto" to enable it
[00:24] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, I did xrandr --output VGA1 --auto and nothing happened. How can I redirect the xtandr output to pastebin for help here?
[00:25] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: "pastebinit <( xrandr )"
[00:26] <ScottSteiner> how can i list the displays on my system?  (:0, :1, etc) I need it for ffmpeg. Thanks
[00:27] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, http://pate.ubuntu.com/12103786/ is the output
[00:28] <ElevyNJ> I mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/12103786/
[00:28] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: according to that VGA1 is connected to the left or right of the laptop screen
[00:29] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: to the right actually
[00:30] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, Physically the screen is to the right of the laptop. The VGA connector is on the left side and is in no signal mode
[00:30] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, but It seems I can drag items off the right side of the screen never to be seen again
[00:30] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: as far as the X server is concerned the VGA1 monitor is to the right of the laptop screen. If the monitor isn't displaying anything then there's a cabling issue
[00:31] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: the VGA1 resolution of 1440x900 is rather strange, depending on what kind of monitor it is of course.
[00:32] <dvela> I'm having an issue disabling a monitor in LightDM. I've tried editing "display-setup-script=xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary" in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, but it's done nothing for me. The monitor is automatically disabled when I log in. I'm using xfce4.
[00:32] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, It's an Acer AL1617W
[00:33] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, It should be 1280 X 1024
[00:36] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: it looks like the monitor isn't talking to the PC then, if you don't even see a "resolution out of range" message on it
[00:36] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, any suggestions?
[00:37] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: try the monitor on another PC to try to prove it works, first... if it does see what modes it reports to that PC, see if it makes sense based on what you've seen for this PC
[00:40] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, I'll be back then
[00:41] <ubuntu-mate> I friggin' love Ubuntu Mate. x.x
[00:47] <HadesWatch3r> TJ-
[00:47] <HadesWatch3r> Mission accomplished, thank you.
[00:48] <ubuntu-mate> Installing Ubuntu Mate. Anyone else have it?
[00:48] <TJ-> HadesWatch3r: nice one, well done :)
[00:55] <ubuntu-mate> Almost done!
[00:56] <Nakatar> what? fixing steam?
[00:56] <ubuntu-mate> Hm?
[00:57] <danielmwakanema> msg nickserv register 12345iamdark95 danielmwakanema@gmail.com
[00:57] <ilosamart> ops
[00:57] <ilosamart> he he
[00:58] <Flannel> danielmwakanema: You'll want to change that password
[00:58] <OerHeks> danielmwakanema, change your password after registering :-)
[01:01] <ilosamart> danielmwakanema: and, PLEASE, change your email's password as well
[01:01] <OerHeks> well, that email is on the log rol now, beware of spam
[01:02] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, After putting the screen on a Windows 10 system and getting a display I moved it back to my Ubuntu system and the screen automticly showed. I guess the cable was loose at first
[01:03] <ElevyNJ> It did survive a reboot
[01:03] <ilosamart> the importance of a slash
[01:03] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: ha! always the cables
[01:03] <danielmwakanema> :( Just did, forgot the slash in the cmd. Hope no one accessed before I changed it.
[01:04] <wylem> Howdy.
[01:04] <ilosamart> well
[01:04] <ilosamart> setup a two-factor auth
[01:04] <ilosamart> it's always the right thing to do
[01:05] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, now to find a guide for Plex server on Ubuntu and how to backup my windows systems to an external drive on this system
[01:05] <danielmwakanema> Alright ilosamart, will do.
[01:10] <Yuken> What would the differences between Ubuntu and Debian be (or would this be better to ask in #linux)? I've heard that it utilizes multithreading better, which could be.... very good for my T5250.
[01:12] <OerHeks> Yuken, you heard wrong. Ubuntu has no rootpassword, thats all.
[01:13] <ilosamart> Yuken: Ubuntu derived from Debian, it uses software that are newer, like newer kernel, libraries, etc (if you compare the stable version of both)
[01:13] <Logan> OerHeks: there are some other differences ;P
[01:13] <ilosamart> derives*
[01:14] <OerHeks> Logan, oh sure, like better artwork :-D maybe you can name more differences..
[01:14] <wylem> Can I ask what'd probably be a stupid question?
[01:14] <ilosamart> basically this is the difference, plus one or another tweak user enhancement
[01:15] <ilosamart> basically this is the difference, plus one or another tweak to enhance the user interface (sorry )
[01:15] <Logan> OerHeks: what ilosamart said, paired with a different release cycle, etc.
[01:15] <Logan> wylem: sure, you can ask anything
[01:15] <wylem> I just installed MATE 15.04, updated, and tried to install synaptic. When I attempt to create a shortcut in the "applications" menu, the shortcut does nothing.
[01:15] <ScottSteiner> While trying to record the screen from within a vnc connection using ffmpeg, I keep getting a black screen. What could be causing this?
[01:16] <wylem> I set my path to /usr/share/applications/ but still nothing.
[01:16] <wylem> The only way I'm able to run it is by opening a terminal window, and leaving it open.
[01:16] <wylem> What am I doing wrong?
[01:17] <wylem> I haven't used linux in several years, and the last time I ran ubuntu it had a program manager upon install.
[01:17] <ubuntu305> Hello. I have AMD Radeon HD 7850M graphics card on my laptop. Using build-in drivers my laptop getting hot and fan speed are on high speed. Should I install oibaf drivers or xorg-edges maybe?
[01:18] <wafflejock> wylem: you may want to checkout alacarte
[01:18] <wafflejock> wylem: it's helpful for setting up your menus
[01:19] <wylem> Okay. I guess I'm just confused. With a fresh install, it would seem that there'd be a fairly easy way to install programs.
[01:19] <wylem> I guess I don't know what I'm doing anymore.
[01:19] <OerHeks> !info pyvnc2swf
[01:19] <not2but1> Wylem: dust?
[01:20] <wylem> I'm not sure what you mean.
[01:21] <OerHeks> ScottSteiner, use pyvnc2swf orvnc2flv to record vnc sessions ?
[01:33] <wylem> Got alacarte, but it's still not letting me create a shortcut for synaptic.
[01:34] <wylem> I guess I'll just install a different build of ubuntu.
[01:35] <DalekSec> !info menulibre
[01:36] <snowkidind> is there a script that looks through all your files and checks for the correct permissions settings?
[01:36] <not2but1> Snowkidind - lynis
[01:36] <not2but1> Rkhunter
[01:37] <snowkidind> do they just scan or do they perform changes?
[01:37] <not2but1> Scan
[01:38] <snowkidind> sounds good will look into it thanks!
[01:38] <not2but1> Welcome
[01:38] <snowkidind> do you prefer one over the other or do they have different benefits to warrant both?
[01:39] <not2but1> I prefer lynis
[01:39] <not2but1> Rkhunter is dedicated to scan rootkit
[01:39] <not2but1> But it can scan for permission setting too
[01:39] <snowkidind> ok kool
[01:40] <matt__> hey everyone, i have ubuntu 15.04 Gnome and I plugged in a second monitor (hp 27xw) and it makes both screens go black
[01:40] <matt__> whats going on?
[01:40] <matt__> does anyone have any ideas as to what may be wrong?
[01:42] <snowkidind> so you pay for lynis?
[01:42] <Sorch> lynis?
[01:42] <snowkidind> hah it says you can download it but it also has plane
[01:42] <snowkidind> plans*
[01:43] <not2but1> Its free
[01:43] <matt__> hey everyone, i have ubuntu 15.04 Gnome and I plugged in a second monitor (hp 27xw) and it makes both screens go black
[01:43] <matt__> does anyone have any idea whats wrong?
[01:44] <Sorch> odd
[01:44] <TJ-> matt_: wrong mode(s) being chosen? have you looked in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[01:45] <matt__> how do i do that?
[01:45] <matt__> im kind of a noob :/
[01:45] <matt__> hence using ubuntu
[01:45] <matt__> I didnt realize there would be a problem adding one more monitor via hdmi
[01:47] <TJ-> matt_: open a terminal, type "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and press G to jump to the end of the file, then work your way back up looking for messages about new monitors being connected... or just pastebin the entire file for us to read "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:48] <TJ-> matt_: usually there isn't - you're almost unique :)
[01:49] <matt__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12104702/
[01:55] <TJ-> matt_: that PC has dual GPUs, intel and nvidia, an Optimus config?
[01:55] <matt__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12104702/
[01:55] <matt__> here is my pastebin TJ
[01:56] <matt__> yeah
[01:56] <matt__> i just used the nvidia proprietary driver
[01:56] <matt__> i dont have bumblebee or optimus to the best of my knowledge
[01:56] <matt__> all i did was dl the propreitary driver
[01:57] <Jake> is there a way to use iptunnel with a domain name on the remote side?
[01:57] <Jake> specifically with gre tunneling
[01:58] <TJ-> matt_: according to that log it has intel and nvidia "intel(G0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600"  and "NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 860M (GM107-A) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)"
[01:59] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, Question, I have an external drive attached how do I find the point point so I can make folders for Plex?
[01:59] <TJ-> matt_: starting at the top of the file, if you search for "(EE)" those lines are errors, and give some indication there's a conflict between intel and nvidia. You should ensure you have the nvidia-prime packages installed too
[01:59] <matt__> okay
[01:59] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: find the what?
[01:59] <matt__> so just sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime?
[01:59] <Jake> ElevyNJ: if my memory serves me correctly it is mounted in /media
[01:59] <TJ-> matt_: it may already be installed. Check with "apt-cache policy nvidia-prime"
[02:00] <matt__> TJ: I have nvidia-prime installed already
[02:00] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, Mount point so I know the path to the drive
[02:00] <squeese> Hey, got a system with two disks working fine, one has arch-linux and the other windows - would like to install ubuntu on the linux disk instead - do I need to take special care to not "break" the bootloader? (dont know how to phrase the question really, hope I get my Q across) =P
[02:01] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: Oh... well it depends if the device has been mounted by udisks... if so it'll be under /media/$USER/
[02:01] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: "mount" will show current mounts
[02:02] <TJ-> matt_: then there's some issue with the interaction according to that log. I'm not a fan of Optimus, we see far too many problems with it
[02:02] <ariscop> so i've uploaded a source package via dput to my ppa, is there some sort of notification that it's worked?
[02:03] <ElevyNJ> Jake thanks. Now how do I make this folder writable from any PC (windows or linux)
[02:03] <TJ-> ariscop: usually only get an email notification if there is a problem
[02:03] <Jake> chmod 655
[02:04] <TJ-> ariscop: best thing is to simply look at your PPA listing... after a few minutes it should show the package waiting to be built
[02:04] <matt__> hmmm
[02:04] <ariscop> TJ-, ah, so it can take a few minutes
[02:04] <matt__> so are there any options available to me?
[02:04] <TJ-> ariscop: yes, it depends on the buildd load
[02:04] <matt__> is it a problem with Gnome or is it solely my video card?
[02:05] <TJ-> matt_: the whole GPU switching area is a mess. there are 2 distinct forms, and they are very different. (MUX and MUX-less)
[02:06] <TJ-> matt_: that log-file suggests a config problem of some sort since the GPUs don't seem to be cooperating as they should
[02:06] <matt__> is there a way I can just deactivate the intel video card so it only uses the nvidia?
[02:06] <ariscop> matt__, for most modern nvidia cards, bumblebee should work
[02:06] <ariscop> not in the mux-less setup
[02:06] <TJ-> matt_: possibly; in the PC's firmware setup
[02:06] <matt__> ariscop:  okay, how would you recommend I install it so that everything goes smoothly?
[02:07] <ElevyNJ> Is there a way to overide the laptop going into sleep/suspend mode when the screen is closed?
[02:07] <ariscop> matt__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:07] <TJ-> matt_: that log suggests that PC might well be MUX-less - there's no indication that the nvidia GPU sees any outputs
[02:08] <matt__> ariscop: any advice about using it?  is there anything i need to set up beyond this?
[02:08] <matt__> TJ:  I don't know what MUX means...but I thought I installed the driver alright :/
[02:09] <TJ-> matt_: Multipleser
[02:09] <TJ-> matt_: Multiplexer
[02:09] <n_blownapart> hello could anyone walk me through an update: from bodhiLinux 2.3.0 to 3.1.0 . ? Apparently my /etc/apt/source.list config file doesn't have current repos. I have know clue...noob. thanks!
[02:09] <ariscop> matt__, once installed, to run something on the dedicated card you need to prefix it with 'optirun'
[02:09] <matt__> TJ:  do you agree with ariscop that bumblebee is a good idea?
[02:09] <TJ-> matt_: Installing the packages should be sufficient, but the driver has to write a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf for most Optimus cases... it is possible that has something wrong in it
[02:10] <TJ-> matt_: I don't know, I won't use Optimus myself. I thought I heard mention that Bumblebee was deprecated in favour of nvidia-prime - but not 100% sure
[02:10] <wylem> Holy shit this is frustrating.
[02:10] <ariscop> TJ-, bumblebee comes with its own xorg confs in /etc/bumblebee
[02:11] <TJ-> ariscop: right, but currently the broken system has an nvidia-generated xorg.conf... which may be all that needs tweaking to fix the issue
[02:11] <ariscop> Oh
[02:11] <n_blownapart> Oh TJ-  *there* you are... :)
[02:11] <TJ-> ariscop: "|-->Screen "nvidia" (0) "
[02:12] <ariscop> surely wiping xorg.conf would work? i'm not sure what version he's on
[02:12] <TJ-> ariscop: the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12104702/
[02:12] <ariscop> yeah, wiping xorg.conf should 'just work', newer xorg autodetects everything
[02:12] <wylem> To clarify again: I just installed MATE 15.04. I then updated and installed synaptic. I went to add a shortcut for synaptic in the "applications" menu, and it did nothing. I installed alacarte, and it wouldn't allow me to create a shortcut. Can anyone please help me out?
[02:13] <TJ-> ariscop: I thought one was needed for optimus MUX-less?
[02:13] <TJ-> matt_: can you "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:13] <ariscop> TJ-, shouldn't be, i've been on two optimus machines and neither had issues
[02:15] <OerHeks> Bumblebee is old, nvidia-prime is the current tool https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[02:15] <matt__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12104823/
[02:17] <spearson> Hi
[02:19] <spearson> I'm trying to follow these http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537708 instructions to make the trackpad issue permanent but I can't find the touchpad section though
[02:20] <spearson> also, when I try to save the file, it says Could not find the file “/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf”.
[02:20] <spearson> could someone assist?
[02:20] <matt__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12104823/
[02:20] <matt__> TJ here is my pastebin of Xorg.conf
[02:21] <spearson> thanks but somehow my file is blank
[02:22] <spearson> and it says (gedit:2842): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[02:22] <TJ-> matt_: from what I've seen from other users, that looks correct.
[02:22] <spearson> when I put in the commend to bring up the file
[02:22] <matt__> okay..so is there anything i can do to get the monitor working? what steps would you take if you were me?
[02:23] <OerHeks> spearson, i think you need "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf"  >>> see last answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/431270/where-did-usr-lib-x11-xorg-conf-d-10-synaptics-conf-go
[02:23] <matt__> when I plug the HDMI in, my laptop screen goes black and then the new big monitor flashes between black and a grey screen that says "ubuntu gnome"
[02:24] <limbera> how do i permanently set environment variables without defining them in my bashrc
[02:24] <TJ-> it's not the monitors that are the issue... the intel is even trying to switch both outputs to 1920x1080, that shows in the logs. I would check if there is any firmware setup options that might be causing the problem... some firmwares have options for controlling use of the hybrid GPUs.
[02:25] <OerHeks> spearson, wrong cut/paste, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[02:27] <ElevyNJ> Question: Now that I have my ubuntu system seeing the eternal display how do I make it the default when I launch apps?
[02:27] <TJ-> matt_: I found this... worth trying: http://askubuntu.com/questions/603603/nvidia-not-displaying-correctly-hdmi-monitor
[02:27] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: set it as the primary
[02:27] <matt__> :(
[02:27] <wylem> Anyone?
[02:27] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: something like "xrandr --output VGA1 --primary"
[02:28] <OerHeks> wylem not using ubuntu-mate myself, i wonder why you need to make a shortcut for synaptic...
[02:28] <matt__> TJ: Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original' Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:29] <wylem> I suppose I don't. I just don't want an open terminal window every time I use it.
[02:29] <TJ-> matt_: log out and back in again, that'll restart the X server with the new config... test it... and check the new Xorg.0.log that generates in case it has different reports
[02:30] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, thanks. last quesion for the night. i turned on desktop sharing.How do I view it from a windows 10 box?
[02:30] <spearson> what location do I save the file to?
[02:30] <TJ-> wylem: you can create a freedesktop .desktop file for it, in $HOME/local/share/applications/
[02:31] <wylem> Thanks, TJ.
[02:32] <spearson> does it go in HD > usr > lib > X11?
[02:32] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: I think I'll let you figure that out :D
[02:33] <TJ-> ElevyNJ: I'd guess it'll be something to do with needing aq VNC client on Windows
[02:33] <Matt____> TJ: I restarted my computer and now my laptop is not in 1920x1080 resolution
[02:33] <Matt____> everything is messed up
[02:33] <Matt____> its showing this small box
[02:33] <Matt____> TJ: ahhh i dont know whats wrong :(
[02:33] <TJ-> Matt____: welcome to the world of Nvidia Optimus :)
[02:34] <Matt____> TJ: :(
[02:34] <TJ-> Matt____: try to switch to a VT with Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, and put the original xorg.conf back and restart the X server with "sudo service lightdm restart"
[02:35] <TJ-> Matt____: I have to leave the PC now, hopefully someone else can pick this up
[02:35] <Matt____> how do i put the original xorg.conf back?
[02:35] <ElevyNJ> TJ-, Thanks for the help
[02:36] <TJ-> Matt____: "sudo cp  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup   /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:40] <yukki> Hallooo.
[02:43] <Pinkamena_D> Looking to run a script to switch from one gpu to another. It seems that I will need to modify xorg somehow, automatic would be preferred. Any ideas where I can start?
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: Depends on the GPU sets .
[02:48] <Pinkamena_D> It is not the hybridgraphics, as this is the only situation I can seem to find support for at all.
[02:49] <Pinkamena_D> I have two situations that I care about: 1) intel laptop gpu to external pcie gpu. 2) desktop gpu to another desktop gpu (pcie)
[02:50] <mfantastic37> hello
[02:50] <Pinkamena_D> hi
[02:50] <aeden__D> mfantastic37, !hello
[02:50] <aeden__D> grr
[02:50] <Pinkamena_D> ?
[02:50] <aeden__D> that didnt work the way i was expecting
[02:50] <Pinkamena_D> parser acting up?
[02:51] <tgm4883> !hello | mfantastic37
[02:51]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[02:51] <aeden__D> Pinkamena_D, na, tried to envoke ubottu...
[02:51] <Pinkamena_D> !hello
[02:51] <Pinkamena_D> must be asleep
[02:52] <mfantastic37> this is kind of unrelated to ubuntu. But i have a need for windows (software) and i have been running win7 in vitual box. Its slow and painful. will my older PC with a core 2 quad q9400 benifit from installing an ssd?
[02:52] <tgm4883> there isn't a hello factoid
[02:52] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: Not a lot of direct help, but I have seen the means to do do so on this mega thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535&highlight=i915&page=86 ; using the xorg.conf files to switch .
[02:53] <aeden__D> !hi
[02:53] <aeden__D> crap lol
[02:54] <mfantastic37> trying to speed up and make more stable my vitualbox win7
[02:54] <Pinkamena_D> yeah, ssd helps older spec computers too.
[02:55] <aeden__D> tgm4883, hi 	<deleted><reply> Hi! Welcome to $chan! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.…Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[02:55] <mfantastic37> ubuntu runs just fine except when virtual box and win7 is hogging its resources
[02:55] <tgm4883> mfantastic37: RAM?
[02:55] <mfantastic37> 8gb
[02:55] <tgm4883> how much did you give the VM?
[02:55] <mfantastic37> i believe 4gb
[02:56] <tgm4883> I think an SSD would definitely help
[02:56] <mfantastic37> i already ordered it
[02:56] <Pinkamena_D> Bashing-om, so I guess here is the large conceptual question about this: Can I switch cards without loosing all of my opened programs, or does a larger project have to make major changes for this?
[02:56] <mfantastic37> was just hoping its not a waste
[02:57] <tgm4883> mfantastic37: oh, well you won't be dissappointed by it :)
[02:57] <daftykins> mfantastic37: my old Q6600 loves the SSDs in it :)
[02:58] <mfantastic37> ohh i gave virtualbox win7 3gb of ram
[02:58] <mfantastic37> i ordered the samsung ssd
[02:58] <Pinkamena_D> For example, I have tried and failed so far to modify xorg files to switch, but I guess this is my fault, but even if I was successful, I would have to do a lightdm restart to see the changes, in which case I might as well just restart the whole machine, which detracts from the usefulness.
[02:59] <mfantastic37> awesome.. how do i adress someone in irc.. like @daftykins
[02:59] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: My thought is that you would have to close all down in the cuurent config, and restart all new in the new config .
[02:59] <daftykins> not the twitter / facebook way that's for sure
[02:59] <daftykins> just nick at the start of the sentence :P
[03:00] <mfantastic37> im not ready to move on to an i7 just yet my q9400 is no slouch
[03:00] <Pinkamena_D> So this is just kind of a limitation in the entire X architecture at this point?
[03:01] <mfantastic37> nick? like literally type nick?
[03:01] <daftykins> yeah i'm holding out for when an upgrade would be justified too - probably not for a while given skylake wasn't so great and kaby lake is a stop-gap since intel can't shrink their process nodes anymore :<
[03:01] <daftykins> no nicknames.
[03:01] <daftykins> !who
[03:02] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: yep you're just a niche customer. you could however script up a lightdm stop, file swap, then start perhaps
[03:02] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: or i bet you can do something with /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files but no idea what.
[03:03] <mfantastic37> got it daftykins
[03:03] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: I am not that in-depth familiar with the X layer . But I am not aware of a on-the-fly method to switch graphics sets .
[03:03] <mfantastic37> did it help with stability daftykins ?
[03:05] <daftykins> mfantastic37: SSD and stability? not sure what you mean there, if your system isn't stable in terms of CPU load, RAM load or whatever then disk won't change much
[03:07] <mfantastic37> well sometimes. when switching user accounts it freezes or the password entry box dissappears and requires a reboot. thats not why im purchasing an ssd though. daftykins
[03:08] <snowkidind> I just installed trusty with an SSD and i notice a significant decrease in response times
[03:08] <snowkidind> before with a mechanical HD some commands would just churn the HDD into forever
[03:09] <daftykins> ah, i don't run Linux on that machine anywho
[03:09] <mfantastic37> oic
[03:10] <mfantastic37> well im going to bed. goodnight everyone.
[03:10] <daftykins> o/
[03:14] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: what you want isn't available. It would require such things as transferring OpenGL textures and other primitives, object handles, from one GPU and its dedicated memory, to another.
[03:17] <Pinkamena_D> I am not much of a low level programmer, so I can not speak with knowledge about this topic. However from a hardware/performance standpoint it should be doable, as certain _other_ operatins systems do it with ease.
[03:18] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: there is very little demand for what you describe; it is an extreme niche
[03:18] <Pinkamena_D> Accepting that I do need to lose the programs for a switch, though, my biggest hurdle is correctly modifying xorg. I have tried creating a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, adding some reasonable looking entries, and restarting the service, but usually I guess wrong (lol) and I just get a black desktop.
[03:19] <Pinkamena_D> Would there be something to either 1) generate some xorg entried based on current hardware or 2) "test" the new config, and revert after 10 seconds or something if it does not work?
[03:19] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: don't modify xorg.conf. Keep 2 spearate config files and switch between them.
[03:20] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: honestly i already suggested something :|
[03:21] <Pinkamena_D> You said I could do 'something' with the files but 'no idea what', unless I missed another comment that oyu made.
[03:22] <daftykins> < daftykins> Pinkamena_D: yep you're just a niche customer. you could however script up a lightdm stop, file swap, then start perhaps
[03:22] <Pinkamena_D> Also TJ-, switching may seen niche, but a fair amount of people may like to have three monitors but each video card only has two outputs. This is still not extremely common but I know a few people with this setup.
[03:22] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: another option is to run each GPU as a separate X screens and use something like xpra + shifter
[03:23] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: why would anyone need to switch anything in that setup?
[03:23] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: I have 3 GPUs and 6 monitors with 4 X sessions on my laptop, and never wanted to move between the X screens. I prefer the session separation
[03:24] <daftykins> 3 on a laptop o0
[03:25] <Pinkamena_D> Ok, so to clarify the 'switching' I am not looking for power saving or anything. If I can just leave the intel gpu on and do everything I need on the other gpu without 'turning it off', that is fine.
[03:25] <daftykins> heh, pretty sure nobody considered that to be a problem
[03:25] <daftykins> it's the general task itself
[03:27] <Pinkamena_D> So I guess I am a little more confused here than when I started about what is and is not possible.
[03:28] <TJ-> daftykins: yeah: http://i.imgur.com/eUrjfxk.jpg
[03:28] <Pinkamena_D> Is there an algorithm that ubuntu goes through to make the xorg file when the system is set up, that I could modify to generate a new one for another device?
[03:29] <daftykins> now that's a man cave :)
[03:29] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: each time the Z server (xorg) is started it is told a config file to read. You could have several xorg.conf files and have the display manager select the appropriate file when (re)starting the X server
[03:30] <TJ-> daftykins: I have a Quadro NVS420 (2 GPUs - 4 heads) in an external PCIe ViDock connected via ExpressCard
[03:32] <Pinkamena_D> TJ, that is similar to the setup I would like to obtain, I also use the egpu dock. Have you documented your efforts anywhere?
[03:33] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: I occasionally share the xorg.conf: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/xorg.XPS-NVS420-6monitor.conf
[03:34] <Pinkamena_D> So you have this 'nvidia-settings' (it seems) which is like a frontend for editing xorg.conf?
[03:35] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: that's a leftover. I hand-crafted the xorg.conf
[03:36] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D:  but the nvidia drivers have a supporting config tool in the nvidia-settings package, which is both a command-line and GUI application
[03:37] <Pinkamena_D> It just seems like quite a lot of imformation to have to manually compile to prepare a few monitors. Perhaps if no one else has ever proposed working on it I can learn this and make a config tool.
[03:38] <daftykins> you could just contribute your time to X's replacement
[03:38] <TJ-> It depends on what is required. the X server has automatic configuration for simple configs but for complex configs it needs to be told
[03:38] <Pinkamena_D> Because it is rare to see someone else with the egpu setup, I just want to ask how you manage with it. Are you able to revert settings correctly when you undock?
[03:38] <daftykins> help steer it to be what we want it to become
[03:38] <SuperLag> Are there any apps/packages that will do an automated disk usage report? or do you have to use some third-party thing like Nagios for that?
[03:39] <daftykins> SuperLag: disk usage? like 'df -h' you mean?
[03:39] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: when I need to go mobile the X server had to be stopped and the current xorg.conf gets moved out the way, and put back again when I return to the workbench
[03:40] <Pinkamena_D> daftykins, replacement? Has anything been proposed for this? I have never hears of it.
[03:40] <daftykins> Wayland isn't it?
[03:40] <daftykins> hmm you might want to do some research then
[03:41] <wafflejock1> SuperLag: you should have disk usage if you search in the dash
[03:41] <wafflejock1> SuperLag: pretty sure it's installed by default
[03:46] <Pinkamena_D> Ok, final question about this before I leave you alone: For the example xorg.conf entries above, where could I place then in ubuntu? I have by default no /etc/X11/xorg.conf. The only related entried are broken up into a bunch of files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[03:46] <Pinkamena_D> (sorry about replacing s with d so much)
[03:46] <daftykins> there's no xorg.conf as default because everything is auto detect
[03:46] <daftykins> when you make one, it has always historically gone in /etc/X11/ yes
[03:47] <Pinkamena_D> but will that overwrite everything in the other files, or extend it? How can I only change the monitors, not all of the other inputs and such, without breaking everything?
[03:48] <Pinkamena_D> From what I could find there are not even any "screen" entries in the /usr/share location?
[03:48] <daftykins> yeah you need to do some reading, honestly i'm amazed that you've been discussing this topic without even having touched on any of these 'beginner X config' topics
[03:49] <SuperLag> daftykins: wafflejock1: I want to report space hogs. People whose ~ is taking up the drive.
[03:50] <Pinkamena_D> Well, when I wanted to add monitors, I did not instantly expect a large amount of research would be needed, but I stand corrected. Do you have a link you feel conveys recent and accurate information that I should invest time into reading?
[03:50] <SuperLag> daftykins: wafflejock1: We have some users who forget about the leftover data their jobs generate, and it fills up the drive
[03:51] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: no
[03:51] <SuperLag> Pinkamena_D: I haven't followed since the beginning of the convo
[03:51] <SuperLag> Pinkamena_D: I'd look into arandr
[03:51] <SuperLag> it's very useful for configuring displays, especially multiple
[03:51] <daftykins> SuperLag: hmm seems like an after the fact thing that, quotas could've been handy maybe :>
[03:55] <Pinkamena_D> Bashing-om ; daftykins ; TJ , I appreciate your time in trying to help me understand this issue, and what I should expect to be possible.
[03:56] <Pinkamena_D> SuperLag, I am not sure it arandr will work any better than the built-on ubuntu ool for configuring multiple gpus.
[03:56] <Pinkamena_D> But I appreciate the suggestion anyway.
[03:56] <drkjstr> SuperLag: have you tried: sudo du -h -d 1 /home
[03:58] <darth> what is the oem install?
[03:59] <daftykins> !oem
[03:59] <daftykins> a way of giving someone an 'out of box experience'
[04:00] <darth> Will I be in trouble, or risk it, if I use that option?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: :) ) also jabe an actibve interest on X, you may find these of interest : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution , http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html .
[04:01] <daftykins> darth: what are you trying to achieve? there's no 'getting into trouble'
[04:01] <darth> that is a good answer. I am a newb. only been playing casually for 3 years.
[04:03] <daftykins> ok well oem installs are ones you'd do on a PC before selling it on
[04:03] <daftykins> so that person would get a setup wizard on first boot
[04:03] <darth> oh, that's cool.
[04:05] <darth> have an old samsung rv520, only thing so far that runs without issue is mint and ubuntu. this last live usb had an oem install option. just had no idea. adhd makes research difficult.
[04:05] <SuperLag> daftykins: I didn't set these machines up. I started a gig where I get paid to admin them, years after the fact. I get the privelege of ugprading one particular box from 10 -> 12 -> 14
[04:06] <daftykins> to claim you can't google something quickly because of a labelled condition is quite frankly pathetic, darth
[04:06] <daftykins> SuperLag: neat, though that would only have to be to 12 :>
[04:06] <daftykins> bit of life left in the old dog yet
[04:06] <darth> not what I meant. I just may be doing to many things is all.
[04:08] <darth> dell mini 10 : ubuntu server, 2006 macbook pro dualboot with mint, samsung now installing ubuntu 14, old faithfull running ubuntu studio for my passion in music
[04:09] <darth> research is just so exiting, I get lost.
[04:12] <darth> have you built a cloud server?
[04:12] <FemAnon> anyone know of a fairly simple script that would allow me to wipe a device with random data and have some sort of percentage of completion to std output? or a readout of the amount of data that has been written? gotta wipe a LARGE drive
[04:15] <Bashing-om> FemAnon: Is time a factor ? 'dd' to wipe the drive, and in another terminal one can get a status . directions to do so in the manual entry ' man dd '.
[04:16] <FemAnon> time is not a factor
[04:16] <limbera> hello
[04:16] <limbera> i'm trying to declare some environment variables
[04:16] <javnut> I need to randomly name all the files in a folder like this 13d2f19a-aa65-450f-86e9-a921745cef68.*ext*
[04:16] <limbera> for example in /etc/environment i have this line
[04:16] <limbera> DJANGO_MODE="Production"
[04:17] <limbera> but when i printing
[04:17] <limbera> DJANGO_MODE doesn't appear
[04:17] <javnut> how do I bash that?
[04:22] <ThePengwin> javnut: you should be able to loop all files and rename them using uuidgen
[04:22] <javnut> ThePengwin: thanks, didn't know about uuidgen
[04:23] <ThePengwin> just googled it myself, lol
[04:39] <keviv> 14.04 laptop eth0 has stopped working last few days. wlan seems to work just fine, but under "Ethernet network" in the network manager it says "device not managed". http://paste.pound-python.org/show/tDfRgl7xi1vjAo0K3k8h/
[04:39] <keviv> Also, I have no idea what the eth0:avahi interface is, that's new. It's appeared only today
[04:42] <zykotick9> keviv: fyi, "Device not managed" means it's setup in /etc/network/interfaces so N-M can use it...
[04:43] <keviv> zykotick9: and how should that be set up?
[04:44] <keviv> Also I guess I should say that the link led is on and the packet activity led blinks a few Hz
[04:46] <zykotick9> keviv: i'd suggest commenting out the lines involving eth0 in your interfaces file
[04:47] <keviv> zykotick9: I kinda added those in response to this problem lol, I think that's what made N-M say what it does now, but it still wasn't working before this
[04:47] <zykotick9> keviv: typo above... that should be "... it's setup in /etc/network/interfaces so N-M CAN'T use it"
[04:47] <keviv> ahhhh
[04:47] <keviv> I'll do that and restart networking
[04:51] <keviv> Lol http://paste.pound-python.org/show/9wb2fGpTb8naMI0ox6cH/
[04:51] <antoine> Bonjour a tous
[04:51] <keviv> Heya
[04:52] <not2but1> Apa kabar?
[04:56] <keviv> zykotick9: yea that did it, thanks. Not sure why it stopped in the first place a few days ago. Oh well
[05:01] <zykotick9> keviv: glad to help.
[05:15] <limbera> if i have a command line application (unicorn) that i normally execute like so
[05:15] <limbera> gunicorn -b 0:8000 myproject.wsgi
[05:15] <limbera> but i want to actually execute it from a shell script
[05:15] <limbera> e.g.
[05:15] <limbera> exec gunicorn -b 0:8000 myproject.wsgi
[05:15] <limbera> and set an environment variable when i do that
[05:15] <limbera> how can i?
[05:16] <limbera> e.g. i would execute this in a shell "DJANGO_SETTINGS=Production gunicorn -b 0:8000 myproject.wsgi"
[05:19] <keviv> Ack, just unplugged and plugged in ethernet, and it's back offline
[05:20] <keviv> I'm sure if I reboot it'll be back up, but it's a laptop, I don't want to reboot every time I plug in a cable
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> keviv: check your syslog and dmesg while plug/unplug
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> keviv: it might give you relevant errors
[05:26] <Jamie_1> I accidently ran a script as root that i should not have... how do i undo that?
[05:29] <xangua> !details
[05:29] <Jamie_1> im not really sure what i ran as sudo that was not supposed to be in all truth... but now i am suddenly running into permissions error when trying to copy files from one place to another from the terminal
[05:30] <Jamie_1> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8842910
[05:30] <Jamie_1> that is what i am running into now
[05:31] <keviv> Jamie_1: is this android?
[05:31] <Jamie_1> its on firefox os
[05:31] <Jamie_1> keviv: ^
[05:32] <keviv> I'll bet you it's forked off of android
[05:33] <Jamie_1> keviv: only part that is forked off of android is the hardware interaction parts... and even those are further edited to match what is needed
[05:34] <somsip> Jamie_1: this is nothing to do with ubuntu. Try finding the firefoxOS support channel
[05:34] <Jamie_1> somsip: i was told over there it was not doing with firefox os... that it was due to i ran something is sudo i should not have
[05:34] <keviv> lotuspsychje: seems the last time dmesg was updated was 20 minutes after boot "[ 1201.164517] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged"
[05:34] <somsip> Jamie_1: in what way is this something to do with ubuntu?
[05:35] <Jamie_1> somsip: i was told it was to do with i ran a script in sudo that should not have been so it wrote the files in sudo and now i am trying to write non-root files to a rooted area....
[05:36] <Jamie_1> *to a root area*
[05:36] <somsip> Jamie_1: again, what is this to do with ubuntu. Are you running this script on ubuntu?
[05:36] <Jamie_1> yes
[05:36] <not2but1> Jamie_1 format it! Done
[05:36] <somsip> Jamie_1: does that oath exist on the paste? ../../vendors or whatever?
[05:37] <Jamie_1> somsip: are you asking if those files its looking for exist?
[05:37] <somsip> Jamie_1: no - path (typo of oath)
[05:37] <diegoaguilar> Hello,  I just installed a fresh ubuntu 12.04.5 on a dell laptop and got this right on ubuntu boot: https://goo.gl/RUpB49
[05:38] <Jamie_1> somsip: yes the paths all exist and are accessable as far as i know
[05:38] <keviv> lotuspsychje: nothing relevant happens on syslog after unplug or plug. In fact the only 2 things that DO happen are wlan0 getting DHCPv4 renewals and org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher being activated. I know these are both networking things, but neither coincides with a change of ethernet state
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> keviv: ubuntu version?
[05:39] <somsip> Jamie_1: paste an ls -la ../../../vendor from the directory that contains that script
[05:39] <keviv> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[05:39] <Jamie_1> somsip: okay one sec
[05:39] <keviv> wat
[05:39] <keviv> um
[05:40] <keviv> lotuspsychje: soooooo I plug it into power while ethernet is in and suddenly NM connects to eth0
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> keviv: what driver shows sudo lshw -C network?
[05:41] <Jamie_1> somsip: just so you know that dir is on a device https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8842911
[05:41] <somsip> Jamie_1: what device? A firefoxOS device by any chance?
[05:41] <Jamie_1> somsip: yes
[05:41] <somsip> Jamie_1: ok - good luck. Bye
[05:41] <Jamie_1> somsip: what????
[05:42] <keviv> lotuspsychje: idk if it lists the driver
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> keviv: its behind driver=
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> keviv: pastebin, if your unsure
[05:43] <keviv> ah
[05:43] <keviv> lotuspsychje: r8169
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> keviv: realtek?
[05:43] <keviv> lotuspsychje: yeah
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> keviv: have you installed ubuntu with working internet enabled, and updates during setup?
[05:44] <keviv> lotuspsychje: yeah I've had this install for ... maybe about a year?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> keviv: went wrong after an update perhaps?
[05:45] <keviv> lotuspsychje: it's possible
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> keviv: try loading a previous kernel, see if you still get network drop
[05:46] <keviv> lotuspsychje: will do, actually, is t possible to see which kernels are installed before I reboot?
[05:47] <keviv> oh ls /boot
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> keviv: you can check them at grub also
[05:47] <keviv> ah true
[05:49] <keviv> lotuspsychje: seems that they're all 3.13.0-xx, do kernel numbers not change a whole bunch now?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> keviv: just try the kernel before, previous number at the end
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> keviv: tell me, why do you unplugh eth cable exactly?
[05:50] <keviv> lotuspsychje: to move the laptop
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> keviv: cant you plug eth before boot?
[05:51] <Hxxx> Is the ubuntu software center market down?
[05:51] <Hxxx> been waiting for something to process...
[05:51] <keviv> lotuspsychje: unfortunately my laptop has a funky eth port and sometimes if it gets jostled it gets unplugged, so there's that too
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> keviv: maybe thats why it gets faulty<?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> keviv: you have network drops over wifi too?
[05:53] <keviv> lotuspsychje: I've isolated this behavior to the fact that NM will only recognize a change to eth once I plug it into power
[05:53] <keviv> lotuspsychje: My room is a little far from the router unfortunately
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> keviv: you could buy a stronger linksys router perhaps
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> keviv: or try the previous kernel thing
[05:54] <keviv> lotuspsychje: yup rebooting now
[05:59] <keviv> lotuspsychje: yeah switching from 3.13.0-61 to -58 seemed to do it
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | keviv
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> keviv: might be a 14.04.3 thing that corrupts realteks driver
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> keviv: so working on previous kernel or file a new bug are your choices
[06:15] <tgrx11> hi
[06:25] <gianni> hi guys
[06:35] <eanyx> Hi does anyone know how to check remote network duplex (half or full) without using autonegotiation?
[06:36] <bestlife> how to block face book
[06:37] <bestlife> using iptables
[06:37] <subz3r0> is this a joke?
[06:37] <subz3r0> are you serious?
[06:37] <not2but1> Lol
[06:37] <bestlife> for my company
[06:37] <subz3r0> blocking facebook? facebook is the best thing what ever could happen for the humanity
[06:38] <subz3r0> we all love it to share nasty stuff there
[06:38] <subz3r0> like "hey im peeeeing on the toilet atm"
[06:38] <icgo> users will just use their mobile phones to access Facebook soberly bother blocking it
[06:39] <subz3r0> im not sure what youre going to try
[06:39] <icgo> so why bother
[06:39] <subz3r0> but the better solution would be a proxy
[06:39] <subz3r0> like squid proxy
[06:39] <cmdswitch> bestlife: may I suggest a simple "iptables block facebook" google search if truly want to do such a thing.
[06:39] <bestlife> i was search but doesn't work
[06:40] <cmdswitch> bestlife: I found many entries that are viable
[06:40] <subz3r0> well you can use this rules
[06:40] <subz3r0> iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -s >somefacebookrange< -j DROP
[06:40] <subz3r0> and
[06:41] <bestlife> squid can't block https
[06:41] <subz3r0> iptables -A OUTPUT -p TCP -m conntrack --ctstate -d <somefacebookrange> -j DROP
[06:41] <subz3r0> hmm?
[06:41] <bestlife> than x
[06:41] <cmdswitch> bestlife: like https://gist.github.com/luisuribe/3048290
[06:41] <subz3r0> the toplevel domain is not encrypted
[06:41] <Kartagis> bestlife: http://serverfault.com/questions/360689/permanently-blocking-a-domain-in-iptables
[06:41] <subz3r0> so squid can block it
[06:42] <shibu_> HY guys
[06:42] <Kartagis> also, cmdswitch++
[06:43] <shibu_> I'm install a ubuntu gnu and i want to install again a unity luncher and all how can i coompletely remove this and install unity launcher...
[06:43] <subz3r0> whoopsie... ofc a NEW behing the --ctstate :)
[06:43] <shibu_> Is there anybody please help me...
[06:44] <shibu_> Help me please.
[06:44] <subz3r0> shibu_: please ask again. since i didnt get what you talking about. your sentence makes almost no sense
[06:44] <cmdswitch> shibu_: patience
[06:44] <subz3r0> install, remove? or what you wanna do?
[06:44] <Kartagis> shibu_: remove what and install unity launcher?
[06:47] <shibu_> Guys when launch next LTS ubuntu os...
[06:47] <jackhum> Hello Penguins!!! Please tell me best way to share my WiFi connection with Android mobile.  I.E alternative of connectify hotspot on ubuntu. I googled and it returned ap-hotspot but its not working for me
[06:48] <cmdswitch> shibu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[06:49] <jackhum> Anyone?
[06:49] <jackhum> Connectify hotspot alternative?
[06:50] <cmdswitch> jackhum: did you try http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/ ?
[06:51] <cmdswitch> jackhum: or try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2165035
[07:03] <rimek_> Wesh
[07:14] <Repox> Hi guys! Rookie question here. I have a log file which is being access both by www-data user from Nginx and my application user from php-fpm. Depending on who generates the file first, the other user cannot write to the log file anymore. To allow both users, in a safe way, to do so, what is the best approach?
[07:20] <lostchild> hello
[07:20] <Joschii> hi
[07:21] <tintedwindows> OK, "universal usb installer", "unetbootin" & some other crap......... I am working off of Ubuntu, I do not have Windows on this machine anymore.  Is there a program that is equivalent to these?  I'm trying to make linux mint bootable USB.
[07:22] <lostchild> how build LNMP
[07:22] <bazhang> !lamp | lostchild
[07:22] <bazhang> tintedwindows, use dd
[07:23] <lostchild> no
[07:23] <bazhang> lostchild, what is lnmp then
[07:24] <lostchild> i'm linux nginx mysql python
[07:24] <bazhang> lostchild, install them from the package manager
[07:26] <lostchild> thank you
[07:26] <lostchild> bey
[07:27] <tintedwindows> ok got it thanks
[07:36] <Jamie_1> hey i am having one hell of an issue... i was following directions from someone i thought knew what they were doing and by doing so accidentally set my root dir to not root any more... so now everything is messed up... is there a way to fix this at all... i dont have a spare usb to create a boot disk and cant format a partition to setup as a bootable "liveusb" due to this problem....
[07:36] <Jamie_1> i know i have created one hell of an issue....
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Jamie_1
[07:39] <Jamie_1> lotuspsychje: if i were to shutdown i will not be able to boot at all
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: you can always enter grub, load previous kernel, fix broken packages from recoverymode,..
[07:40] <zaggynl> or run off to the shop for a cheap usb drive
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: or in worst case, plug out your hd physicaly and backup data
[07:40] <Jamie_1> lotuspsychje: i thought that used parts of the root partiton....
[07:41] <Jamie_1> and zaggynl the closest store to me period is a good 3 mi away.... :\
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: what are you affraid to loose?
[07:41] <Jamie_1> i dont care about losing anyting.... other than a bootable computer
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: then try the recoverymode or previous kernel
[07:42] <Jamie_1> okay i will... gonna hop onto irc on my flatfish
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: the 'fix broken packages' option from recoverymode can do magic sometimes
[07:42] <Jamie_1> i hope it does :)
[07:42] <zaggynl> 3 miles isn't that far away, or am I too optimistic?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> yeah a cheap usb stick always comes handy with ubuntu on it
[07:43] <Jamie_1> yea.... that is a general store that carries food.... and that doesnt carry almost anything else
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: you can also order a cheap usb bootable cd online
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: -usb, just a bootable dvd
[07:45] <ObrienDave> like 5 bucks
[07:45] <Jamie_1> either way i hope i can fix this easily without a usb... worse comes to worse i can break down and just do a net install
[07:45] <Jamie_1> again.....
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: download an ubuntu iso before reboot, you can load iso's into grub also
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: if things go really wrong..
[07:46] <Jamie_1> oh....
[07:46] <zaggynl> ha neat, didn't know about that
[07:46] <ObrienDave> O.o news to me ;P
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1, zaggynl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[07:46] <Jamie_1> same to me zaggynl
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> of course usb method is more simple :p
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> Jamie_1: or the dvd buy method, free to pass and share: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1146
[07:51] <jamie_flatfish> right now I'm just gonna try to do it via grub
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> jamie_flatfish: ok good luck
[07:52] <jamie_flatfish> I'm gonna need it
[07:53] <jamie_flatfish> what was that link to booting isos from grub?
[07:53] <zaggynl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[07:53] <jamie_flatfish> thanks
[07:56] <jamie_flatfish> what hers do you hold to get into recovery mode again?
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> jamie_flatfish: hold shift at boot to enter grub
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> jamie_flatfish: then load ubuntu(recoverymode) from there
[07:56] <DieguezZ> hi, i am doing an installer and id like to add the user that runs the script to a group. as the script needs to be run with sudo, if i use $(whoami) it will return "root", is there any other command?
[07:57] <jamie_flatfish> thanks... only time I have used it was when I needs to change Kern's versions
[07:57] <jamie_flatfish> *kernal version.... dam auto correct
[08:10] <langxm> hi
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> langxm: welcome, what can we do for you?
[08:14] <adun153> Hi! I need help in assessing something.
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> !ask | adun153
[08:15] <jamie_flatfish> #android-root
[08:18] <adun153> I have a server, started it up in single user mode, but it hangs at this part. http://imgur.com/0TbYmtC  Cursor is blinking, so it hasn't really "locked up". Any suggestions?
[08:19] <adun153> At first, I thought it was fscking, but it's been like that for about 2 1/2 hours now.
[08:31] <erebus^> help! seems like compiz wont load after login...
[08:31] <erebus^> so here i am in commandline, clueless :p
[08:32] <adun153> what did you do just before that? Install a video driver?
[08:32] <erebus^> can i start in in tty7 in any way?
[08:32] <erebus^> adun153: didnt do anything...
[08:32] <erebus^> adun153: just normal use
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> erebus^: ubuntu version?
[08:32] <NegativeFlare> erebus^: Unity?
[08:32] <erebus^> unity yes
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> adun153: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[08:33] <Rodriguez> Resolucao bem emmacados satisfaca fio apparecer rua mostrando. Amo favor ahi torre porem pao gesto. Herdeira que admittir sao panoplia sim cobardes. Te vedes algum em capaz racho. Teremos sentira es arresto es escutes encanto. Felicito es remedial as resistir.  Oh ti em calvario pastilha acceitar mudancas encontre proferir oh. Obrigacao domestica o
[08:33] <Rodriguez> ccupando os mostrando mo illuminou iv. Caro elle mola onde poe meu sobr sabe com. As si mysterisa obediente augmentar na. Es clerigos so remorsos ja admittia um entramos ponhamos arreliar. Meia fins se ah fora tido meus umas sr. Quer ante anda poe voce pae luxo este viu. Santa ponto basta mas ias abrir vos tenha. Dada no afim es veja
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !es | Rodriguez
[08:33] <cowbacon> !es | Rodriguez
[08:33] <Rodriguez> Admittido estendida ao sympathia commissao no la. Iv caloteiros um pronunciar no as vivacidade. Adivinhado ve os ja auxiliarem tu associacao. As oppostas eu te em garganta pelintra. Exigencia em affeicoas em liberrimo ensinando captivava. Olhosdisse secretaria que voz nem importunal nos permanente encolhendo. Beber dizer beira viu hia lia foi. Real
[08:33] <Rodriguez> ise ler vae noticia nao proprio estamos partido importa nao. Mal sabio naipe mundo cuida ate capuz tem nao.  Sem passeios dir penetrou dissesse arrojado absoluta sao. Frioleiras nao das recordarei excellente sao iii. Ate bom ares alli brio caso com meus acha. Ahi exposta escapar sem acoitar meu. Dou impossivel doidivanas competente vir uns. Sua tez
[08:33] <Rodriguez>  isto qual rico moem nao. Ha tu mysterio chegueis ii obrigada ameacado quarenta exprimir ve. Viveremos de do sustentar horriveis apertando symbolica me. Sacrifical ostentacao as ou applicacao. Ja da ou haviam vindes contar.
[08:33] <NegativeFlare> And now you know why Unity hates Compiz, because they don't like each other
[08:33] <erebus^> ubuntu 15.04
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> erebus^: and graphics card chipset?
[08:33] <Rodriguez> Chineezen gesmolten versteend vroegeren anderhalf tot zes ten wij. Hen lot bedroeg woonden mag aangaan hij aangaat. Grooten als malakka daartoe zij behalen krijgen inkomen wat lot. Alais vogel holen welke een zaken sinds zoo. Gerust nu openen metaal enkele voeden denken ad. Aandeelen was eindelijk stroomend vierkante dringende goa brandstof. Benede
[08:33] <Rodriguez> n ernstig witheid ze noemden en gezocht citadel. Nu bezorgden bezwarend verdiende om te ingenieur ongunstig brandhout. Witte ellen ook prijs langs eerst reden wel die per. Welks elk drong lange stuit loopt ploeg per had. Gronds er parijs noodig of de. Den bevel gayah rijen nam hun zij. Gebruiken zee besluiten dan bloeiende oog aardschok. Geval om n
[08:33] <Rodriguez> u steek waren er mogen goten al.
[08:34] <erebus^> lotuspsychje: intel
[08:34] <Rodriguez> Goa vaartuigen archimedes onderlinge ton oog productief. Gomboomen belasting wijselijk aanvoeren ver wat uit. Far gezegend des ten inkrimpt failliet gif. Ad verwijderd aangeplant ik goudmijnen wonderbare al ze. Bijzondere heb kongostaat concurrent uit tot bescheiden. Men tandrad aangaan ton hij eronder. Eind nam even moet veld maar die. Rook geld w
[08:34] <Rodriguez> elk in hier ze en. Simplon sap dag planten metalen noodige. Ze nadering verwoede nu schaffen na gelijken. Ter aldus dus juist wij zware. Hadden met karank afzien dat oog dus invoer oorlog. Oogenblik zoo volledige zin mag stoompomp schatkist. Per had met tot sinds batoe zelfs. Dit opgericht producten ontrukten schatkist het. Verkoopen ons die omgewo
[08:34] <Rodriguez> eld gebergten honderden dus het.
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Rodriguez spam
[08:34] <NegativeFlare> and this is why we can't have nice things
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> NegativeFlare: compiz works fine with unity, depending on card
[08:35] <NegativeFlare> lotuspsychje: I've always heard they didn't work with each other
[08:35] <erebus^> what happens is i type my password for login, but after i get in all i have is my wallpaper and a mousepointer
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> NegativeFlare: i have wobbly windows on compiz and unity working flawless here
[08:36] <erebus^> and i check top and compiz is stuck at 100% load
[08:36] <NegativeFlare> lotuspsychje: well then lol
[08:36] <Rodriguez> Cavaliers comprenez ou gendarmes je annoncait. Fabriques attelages non dut peu car echangent etendards jugements. Je indus voyez de fumee cette. Son est rang sur veut avis. Lassitude he sa servantes sanglante et carabines. Souliers rizieres il illumine au allumait cornette il crispent un. But ete ordure terres choses. Connaitre de apprenons me prin
[08:36] <Rodriguez> temps somptueux ah dentelles ca perruches. Aime pour eux car ames car.
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> erebus^: did you try the same with 14.04?
[08:36] <erebus^> killed it, reboted, but didnt help
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Rodriguez flood
[08:36] <Rodriguez> Universel enfantent abondance dentelees ni on oh petillent. Des toi fanatiques souhaitait infanterie peu gourmettes jet. Votre forme daims selon sur eut oeufs. Fit petites ils langage facteur. Peu vin pieces arbres guerre. Blason encore peu humain non. Nid estaminets fit crispation paraissent boulevards eau. Croix votre neuve et canon desir sa ah x
[08:36] <Rodriguez> v. Ont ils vin mines large ronde mon. Nid paix net soir reve. ???
[08:36] <badbodh> erebus^, can you repeat your story in short . just joined in.
[08:36] <erebus^> lotuspsychje: nah, im an my computer right now, not going to reinstall :P
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> badbodh: compiz crashes on his 15.04
[08:37] <badbodh> can you remember what was the last thing you did? any install/remove, changing settings etc
[08:37] <badbodh> or is it a fresh install
[08:37] <erebus^> badbodh: yeah, i booted ubuntu 15.04, typed login cred, but desktop is only a wallpaper and a mousepointer. restart doesnt help
[08:38] <erebus^> badbodh: old install, but didnt change anything realy
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> erebus^: graphics card chipset?
[08:38] <erebus^> lotuspsychje: intel somethin, "graphics 500" or something? i dont even have a webbrowser here :P
[08:39] <badbodh> can you switch back-and-forth to tty shells ? ctrl-alt-f1 to f6 brings a tty shell (no gui)
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> erebus^: try something lighter perhaps, or 14.04
[08:39] <erebus^> badbodh: yep, im an tty1 now :p
[08:39] <badbodh> ctrl-alt-f7 and f8 will get back to gui
[08:39] <erebus^> badbodh: in irc from commandline
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: greetings mate :p
[08:40] <badbodh> then you can re-install unity and compiz packages (apt-get install --reinstall xxx) , create a new user with 'adduser' command, login to new user account and see if it works
[08:40] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, hi ho, Good Sir!
[08:41] <erebus^> badbodh: hm, yeah i'll try that, thanks
[08:41] <mahdi> hi,on ubuntu server 14.04, i changed /etc/network/interfaces to new configuration in order to have static ip
[08:41] <badbodh> if it doesn't, you have likely a driver issue, or if you installed a new kernel recently.
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> mahdi: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[08:41] <badbodh> try older kernels by selecting 'advanced options' in grub
[08:42] <badbodh> good luck
[08:42] <NegativeFlare> mahdi: What do you want to do?
[08:42] <NegativeFlare> Configure your server for a Static IP?
[08:44] <Idiot> I installed Ubuntu yesterday, but the resolution is stuck at 640x480 and I can't change it from the settings.
[08:44] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: Graphics Driver issue, What GPU do you have?
[08:44] <x4w3> mahdi: what's ur problem then?
[08:45] <k1l> Idiot: did you install some video drivers from the ubuntu repo? how is the monitor connected? adapters involved?
[08:45] <NegativeFlare> x4w3: That's what I'm trying to figure out. xD
[08:45] <Idiot> kil: I'm on a laptop.
[08:45] <x4w3> :)
[08:45] <Idiot> NegativeFlare: SiS Mirage 3, I think.
[08:45] <mahdi> NegativeFlare: x4w3 i didnt knew there is ubuntu server chanel, i asked there, thanks
[08:46] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: fire up the terminal and run lspci, pastebin what it says
[08:46] <k1l> Idiot: "lspci" will tell the exact one
[08:46] <NegativeFlare> !pastebin | Idiot
[08:47] <darknote> hello everyone >> <<
[08:47] <wafflejock> hello darknote
[08:47] <NegativeFlare> !hi | darknote
[08:47] <NegativeFlare> xD
[08:47] <Idiot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12106407/
[08:47] <realloc1> Hi, my Ubuntu 14.10 asks me to update to 15.04 and I want to because of updates, but I'm on a M$ Surface Pro 2, using a custom Kernel (3.17.6) and drivers (vifino helped me there, but he seems to be away at the moment). Does a upgrade to 15.04 install a different kernel?
[08:48] <Halelujah> Hi im using Lubuntu! What irc client you recommend?
[08:48] <NegativeFlare> realloc1: yes
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !irc | Halelujah
[08:48] <darknote> hey I'm having  performance issue
[08:48] <Halelujah> i need a leightweight irc client
[08:48] <Halelujah> with gui
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> Halelujah: hexchat or irssi
[08:49] <Halelujah> does irssi has gui?
[08:49] <k1l> Halelujah: start with hexchat
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !info irssi | Halelujah
[08:49] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: Best option is probably to use vesa as your driver
[08:49] <realloc1> NegativeFlare: thx, but I should be able to install the old one, or?
[08:49] <Halelujah> Is hexchat in active development?
[08:49] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: Try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455888/low-resolution-on-lubuntu-14-04-sis
[08:49] <k1l> Halelujah: yes
[08:49] <NegativeFlare> realloc1: I'm not sure, you probably could. But it might break stuff :/
[08:50] <NegativeFlare> realloc1: I'd stick to what you have for now.
[08:50] <Halelujah> k1l ok
[08:50] <realloc1> NegativeFlare: What about updates?
[08:50] <realloc1> NegativeFlare: security etc
[08:50] <NegativeFlare> realloc1: As long as apt doesn't upgrade your kernel you should be fine.
[08:50] <Idiot> NegativeFlare: Alrighty then. Thanks for helping!
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !details | darknote
[08:50] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: no problem
[08:51] <realloc1> NegativeFlare: It says 14.10 doesn't get updates anymore
[08:51] <Halelujah> Whats better WeeChat or Irssi?
[08:51] <darknote>   I'm having slow graphics performance issue  , can anyone  help me? I knew its sort of bug of unity 3d since my ram is 2gb
[08:51] <k1l> realloc1: that is correct. its EOL already
[08:51] <NegativeFlare> realloc1: then your kinda stuck lol. Its at the end of its life :/
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> darknote: ubuntu version and grafix card chipset?
[08:53] <Idiot> NegativeFlare: The file browser doesn't let me create files in the folder.
[08:53] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: of course not
[08:53] <NegativeFlare> :P
[08:53] <NegativeFlare> use the terminal dude
[08:54] <Halelujah> Weechat or Irssi?
[08:54] <NegativeFlare> Halelujah: that's all in opinion
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> !best | Halelujah
[08:54] <k1l> Halelujah: test both and decide yourself
[08:54] <Idiot> NegativeFlare: That's what I was thinking of. Being a complete and utter terminal noob, I don't know how to create files.
[08:54] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: oh lordy
[08:54] <Halelujah> any huge difference between theM?
[08:54] <realloc1> NegativeFlare, k1l: Thank you anyway ;-)
[08:55] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: fire up the terminal and run "sudo nautilus"
[08:55] <Idiot> NegativeFlare: I chose my nickname for a reason.
[08:55] <Fuchs> Idiot: do not run sudo nautilus
[08:55] <NegativeFlare> type in your password
[08:55] <Fuchs> that's a bad idea
[08:55] <Fuchs> if you really need sudo for a graphical application, use gksudo or the likes
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> Halelujah: irssi is terminal based, try hexchat or weechat to start maybe
[08:55] <NegativeFlare> Fuchs: Well, otherwise he'll have to use nano xD
[08:55] <NegativeFlare> because gksudo is crap
[08:55] <Fuchs> NegativeFlare: no, no he doesn't
[08:55] <Halelujah> isnt weechat terminal based?
[08:55] <Idiot> To run or not to run, that is the question.
[08:55] <NegativeFlare> Halelujah: both weechat and irssi are.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !info weechat | Halelujah
[08:56] <Fuchs> NegativeFlare: using sudo for graphical applications will change the permissions on important files in your home folder, worst case leaving you with a system you can't (graphically) log into any more. Please don't recommend it.
[08:56] <Fuchs> Idiot: what kind of file do you need to create / edit?
[08:56] <Halelujah> !info irssi
[08:56] <tintedwindows> i did it
[08:56] <Halelujah> sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:56] <NegativeFlare> Fuchs: I've never had any issues with that. So I don't see anything wrong with it. And I've been running dedi's for the past 8 years xD But do what you see fits.
[08:57] <Idiot> http://askubuntu.com/questions/455888/low-resolution-on-lubuntu-14-04-sis I need to create the file specified in the answer.
[08:57] <tintedwindows> i used the DD command to make a USB bootable
[08:57] <Fuchs> NegativeFlare: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo
[08:57] <tintedwindows> it was easy
[08:57] <jamie_flatfish> hey I'm in grub trying to set momentry so I can boot.... but when I run "loopback loop (hd0)$isofile" its returning unknown filesystem
[08:57] <NegativeFlare> Fuchs: hmph, gksudo always breaks imo. So again, do what you see fits.
[08:57] <Idiot> I trieed to find a solutuion, but started an arguement instead...
[08:58] <Fuchs> Idiot: right, you have two easy possibilities: you can either use the terminal editor nano  (sudo nano  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/use-vesa.conf)  and edit it. A small help is displayed at the bottom, ^ is the control key, thus CTRL+X would save
[08:58] <NegativeFlare> Idiot: Try doing it with gksudo
[08:58] <Idiot> NegativeFlare: Alrighty then.
[08:58] <Fuchs> Idiot: the alternative version is to run whatever text editor you like, create that file, save it where you do have permissions and then copy it over with   sudo cp /path/to/your/file /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/use-vesa.conf
[08:58] <tintedwindows> command "df -h" then sudo dd if="name of iso imag" of="/nameofusbdrive(minusthe#)"
[08:58] <Fuchs> Idiot: the last possibility is to run a graphical application as root, for that: please use gksudo, as per above
[08:59] <tintedwindows> haha i thought you were calling him an idiot at first
[08:59] <tintedwindows> I still prefer Ubuntu over Linux Mint, everyone with me here?????
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> !mint | tintedwindows
[09:00] <jamie_flatfish> anyone have any ideas why  its returning unknown filesystem?
[09:00] <Fuchs> tintedwindows: #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of sillyness, please.
[09:00] <cfhowlett> tintedwindows, please don't poll
[09:00] <tintedwindows> woah jeez alright
[09:00] <tintedwindows> later
[09:00] <bestlife> how to block https from squid
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !squid | bestlife
[09:02] <jamie_flatfish> even running something as simple as "ls (hd0)" returns unknown filesystem
[09:02] <Idiot> Alright, I did what was necessary. Time to reboot to see if it worked.
[09:03] <Idiot> Oh, and I did it with nano. Insult me please.
[09:03] <Fuchs> Why should?
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> jamie_flatfish: its best to mention you trying to boot the .iso from grub
[09:03] <Fuchs> nano is a decent editor if you just want to edit some files *shrug*
[09:05] <jamie_flatfish> lotuspsychje: sorry I forgot to mention that
[09:05] <MrButh> I want to monitor how much bandwidth my server is using per month/week/day, is there a plugin/ssh command to check that?
[09:06] <cfhowlett> !server | MrButh, might be best to ask the server channel for recommendations
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> jamie_flatfish: the more details you gather in repeating your question, the more luck you will get it solved in chat
[09:06] <Idiot> It worked! Thanks for helping.
[09:06] <Idiot> Oh, also, is it possible to reply to two people at once?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Idiot: just use tab with the 2 nicks in your line
[09:07] <jamie_flatfish> yes... sorry... in gonna try it with the main partition (hd0,msdos1)
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !tab | Idiot
[09:07] <MrButh> cfhowlett, didn't I just ask the server channel for recommendations?
[09:07] <jamie_flatfish> that actually worked....
[09:07] <Fuchs> Idiot: you can include as many as you want, whether it will highlight them is up to their client, though
[09:07] <cfhowlett> MrButh, you asked #ubuntu .  #ubuntu-server = server
[09:08] <ikonia> MrButh: yes but it didn't make sense
[09:08] <ikonia> a plugin for what ?
[09:08] <MrButh> ah ok, sorry
[09:08] <jamie_flatfish> probably should have tried that off the bat...
[09:08] <MrButh> a plugin to monitor bandwidth per day, week and month
[09:08] <MrButh> on my server though, so I will ask in the server channel
[09:08] <MrButh> thanks though
[09:08] <ikonia> a plugin for what ?
[09:08] <ikonia> a plugin must plugin to something
[09:09] <ikonia> so a plugin for what
[09:13] <jamie_flatfish> lotuspsychjr: IT WORKED!!
[09:16] <jamie_flatfish> is there a way to restore personal files when reinstalling?
[09:16] <jamie_flatfish> I never made a seperate /home partition....
[09:16] <NegativeFlare> jamie_flatfish: other than a separate /home
[09:16] <cfhowlett> jamie_flatfish, making /home is easy ...
[09:16] <cfhowlett> !home | jamie_flatfish
[09:16] <cfhowlett> !backup | jamie_flatfish
[09:18] <jamie_flatfish> nevermine... all of that requires the old one to be bootable...
[09:20] <NegativeFlare> jamie_flatfish: you can always recover your files with a live CD
[09:20] <NegativeFlare> that is, if you haven't overwrote the parition
[09:20] <cfhowlett> jamie_flatfish,  I missed some details.  Do I understand that you cannot currently boot your system?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> better yet, please restate your issue.
[09:21] <ricard> I have one question I have canviado motherboard and it is not the same model I had and this has hdmi and I have to have the co vga pc connected really notice the difference?
[09:23] <ricard> I have one question I have changed the motherboard and it is not the same model I had and this has hdmi and I have to have the co vga pc connected really notice the difference?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !patience | ricard
[09:25] <jamie_flatfish> cfhowlett: I just booted an ISO from grub because my old system got completely foobared to the point of no repair... was wondering if there was a way to recover any of that stuff?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> jamie_flatfish, possibly.  **IF** you did not format your /home.  boot from USB, mount your hdd, navigate to your /home.  if present, copy those files to external media!
[09:28] <jamie_flatfish> I can still do that, I still have access to (hd0,msdos1) partition which holds that
[09:28] <burnblade> hi guys, not sure if anyone can help. i am running linux lite 2.4 and ran all my updates and some of my video files will open when i double click on them but then some just wont open anything ?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> burnblade, sorry.  linuxlite is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !linuxlite | burnblade
[09:30] <burnblade> oh sorry guys. im new to linux . only installed today.
[09:30] <cfhowlett> burnblade, linuxlite should support you.  if not = consider your options.
[09:31] <burnblade> ok thank you. just watched a video pointing out a few apps to get and xchat was one. didnt realise this was only ubuntu
[09:31] <cfhowlett> burnblade, linuxlite help menu should point you to available resources.  best of luck.
[09:34] <jamie_flatfish> cfhowlett: in not booting from USB... in booting a USO in my HDD from the current grub
[09:34] <jamie_flatfish> *from an iso*
[09:35] <cfhowlett> jamie_flatfish, doesn't matter.  go to /home and copy your files to a different storage
[09:35] <jamie_flatfish> okay
[09:35] <cfhowlett> and props to you for booting .iso from grub!
[09:42] <darknote>  video lagging, scroll lagging , window move lagging
[09:42] <darknote> anyone can help
[09:42] <darknote> ?
[09:42] <darknote> video lagging, scroll lagging , window move lagging, anyone can help?
[09:43] <NegativeFlare> darknote: Graphics Card issues
[09:44] <darknote> NegativeFlare: not quite sure , its intel graphics, works with windows perfectly
[09:44] <cfhowlett> darknote, did you install intel drivers?
[09:45] <mapat> русские есть?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !ru | mapat
[09:45] <darknote> charlesdub: no, do i need to install it?  I don't know how to install  intel dirvers on ubuntu
[09:45] <cfhowlett> darknote, what ubuntu number?
[09:46] <darknote> cfhowlett: ubuntu number ? do you mean version?  its 14.04
[09:47] <darknote> cfhowlett: more info : its 32 bit processor with 2 gb ram
[09:47] <cfhowlett> darknote, right, version.  sadly, that's the one version of Intel Graphics Installer for Linux that intel rescinded support for.
[09:48] <cfhowlett> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[09:48] <Amoz> darknote, could you give the specific processor model?
[09:48] <Amoz> that sounds like an awfully old CPU
[09:51] <darknote> Amoz: how can I find the processor details on ubuntu? its dual core processor I know
[09:52] <NegativeFlare> darknote: lscpu is one way
[09:52] <NegativeFlare> Just remember to use a pastebin ;)
[09:52] <Amoz> darknote, I'm quite sure that's not an 32-bit CPU then
[09:53] <NegativeFlare> Amoz: unless its a Xeon xD
[09:53] <NegativeFlare> Which is highly unlikely.
[09:53] <darknote> Amoz: no, its 32bit processor
[09:53] <Amoz> NegativeFlare, aah, I didn't know. But I'm quite sure most (all?) desktop/consumer CPUs had 64bit before multicore.
[09:54] <NegativeFlare> Amoz: Mostly, unlike my server's Xeon CPU. Its a 32bit, with dualcore xD
[09:54] <Amoz> darknote, run this, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[09:54] <Amoz> and answer with *one line* the model name.
[09:55] <darknote> Amoz: model : 15
[09:55] <Amoz> darknote, the model name
[09:55] <darknote> Amoz: model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2200  @ 2.20GHz
[09:56] <Amoz> great, so that means there is no builtin graphics.
[09:56] <Amoz> unless I'm missing something here
[09:57] <k1l> darknote: see http://ark.intel.com/products/33925/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E2200-1M-Cache-2_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB its 64bit cpu
[09:57] <darknote> Amoz: no, it has built in graphics... and I dont have any other graphics card
[09:57] <k1l> darknote: please show the output of "lspci" in a pastebin
[09:57] <k1l> !paste | darknote
[09:58] <darknote> k1l: okay
[09:59] <Amoz> darknote, there is no GPU in that CPU as far as I can see. In that case you have a small GPU on your motherboard.
[09:59] <Amoz> anyway, next step is to find out what renders the graphics
[09:59] <darknote> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12106720/
[09:59] <k1l> darknote: no, please show "lspci" in a pastebin
[09:59] <darknote> Amoz: okay , could you please give me the instructions?
[10:01] <darknote> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12106730/
[10:02] <Amoz> I'm not sure, but try installing xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[10:03] <Amoz> darknote, could you give the output of the following in a pastebin as well?    glxinfo | grep render
[10:03] <darknote> Amoz: yeah sure
[10:05] <darknote> Amoz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12106758/
[10:10] <JelleS> how can i record a nautilus/mounted drive error? When i open the path to the drive, nautilus suddenly closes
[10:10] <k1l> JelleS: start nautilus from a terminal
[10:11] <Amoz> darknote, sorry, I don't really know then. Has it always been like this in ubuntu? or is it a regression? is it your first time ?
[10:13] <ricard> I changed my motherboard but which have no hdmi me and I have to have the pc vga is very big difference, here's a pastebin of xrandr command you, http: //pastebin.com/V2y5hgL
[10:13] <darknote> Amoz: no it was okay with older version of ubuntu. with 14.04 having this kind of problem, I think  its sort pf bug of unity 3d found some info after googling
[10:14] <linuxholic> Has anyone ever used VDPAU on vlc in ubuntu?
[10:14] <darknote> Amoz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/intel-linux-graphics-driver-installer-1-0-5 should i install this?
[10:14] <Amoz> darknote, aha, because I *think* the "direct render: yes" means you have hw-acc and the driver loaded etc.
[10:14] <Amoz> darknote, maybe just to check, can you pastebin the output from "lsmod" ?
[10:15] <darknote> Amoz: okay
[10:15] <Amoz> darknote, that will list all modules/drivers that are loaded, showing if the needed driver is loaded or not
[10:15] <Amoz> I don't know the required driver for your chipset though :)
[10:15] <darknote> Amoz: okay let me check
[10:16] <ricard> I changed my motherboard but which have no hdmi me and I have to have the pc vga is very big difference, here's a pastebin of xrandr command you, http: //pastebin.com/V2y5hgL
[10:17] <Amoz> ricard, please don't post multiple times :)
[10:17] <darknote> Amoz: video                  20480  1 i915
[10:18] <darknote> Amoz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12106822/
[10:19] <Amoz> darknote, so the i915 module is loaded. I'm quite sure that means everything on the lower levels work fine.
[10:21] <angs> dmesg shows " This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem." for a usb dongle.http://paste.ubuntu.com/12106835/  Is it an error, what does it mean?
[10:22] <linuxholic> Has anyone ever used VDPAU on vlc in ubuntu?
[10:22] <Amoz> darknote, and fyi, I believe a new intel graphics driver install will do no change, because the chipset is quite old, and you already have a working driver (it seems)
[10:23] <darknote> Amoz: yeah I think so, its sort of bug I guess but I dont know how to solve
[10:24] <Amoz> darknote, you mentioned a unity bug, do you have a link?
[10:24] <darknote> Amoz: I saw a few here is a one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386721
[10:25] <Steven_M> Hi all, are bitcoin core and armory in ubuntu one of main repo's or do users have to get them from a 3rd party location?
[10:25] <linuxholic> Has anyone ever used VDPAU on vlc in ubuntu?
[10:26] <Amoz> darknote, did you try the suggestion in the comments?
[10:27] <Amoz> linuxholic, stop repeating your question, ask once and wait
[10:27] <darknote> Amoz: yeah I tried with comment number 95
[10:27] <darknote> Amoz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450555/very-slow-graphics-performance-after-upgrade-12-04-14-04
[10:27] <darknote> Amoz: alomost  same problem I'm having
[10:30] <Amoz> darknote, basically, when those things happen, you have to just try all different "fixes" and see if one solves your problem :P
[10:31] <Amoz> darknote, so you can try all the boot parameters, e.g. "video=LVDS-1:d" as in your link, and check whether it fixes the problem or not. If it doesn't, remove the change and try something else.
[10:31] <Amoz> darknote, if I knew the problem I
[10:31] <Amoz> blah
[10:31] <Amoz> darknote, if I knew the problem I'd definitely respond with the correct fix as the first suggestion :)
[10:33] <Amoz> darknote, hmm have your ever used an external monitor to that computer?
[10:33] <darknote> Amoz: no
[10:34] <darknote> Amoz: so are you recommending adding a kernel parameter
[10:35] <Amoz> darknote, I just saw this, but it seems limited to high resolution / dual monitor setups, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1292467
[10:36] <Amoz> darknote, also, check #120 here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386721
[10:36] <Amoz> darknote, another suggestion, Adding "options i915 modeset=0" to /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf
[10:39] <darknote> Amoz: I saw almost all the bug , I've been trying to solve this for a week... even I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[10:39] <darknote> Amoz: now I'm confused
[10:40] <HewloThere> Hia. I've accidentally locked myself out of SSH on a dedi. I'm currently in rescue mode. This is the error PuTTY is giving me: http://i.hewlothere.me/tKvsU.png
[10:40] <k1l> HewloThere: how did you lock yourself out?
[10:40] <HewloThere> I was trying to jail SSH/SFTP users...
[10:41] <Amoz> darknote, you've tried to solve it for a week, and you installed ubuntu yesterday?
[10:41] <k1l> then revert the changes from recovery?
[10:41] <HewloThere> I can't, because they're not there.
[10:41] <HewloThere> The files I changed aren't in recovery.
[10:42] <darknote> Amoz: yeah after a week a guy just told me to add a ppa then my system crushed, I tried fix but had to install os again
[10:42] <k1l> HewloThere: best is to ask the support of that server hoster. they will know best about their recovery system and how to recover their servers
[10:42] <Amoz> darknote, oh.. next time, you maybe could try ppa-purge first. Unless you already did that
[10:43] <HewloThere> k1l: It's unmanaged, it's in my hands. :/
[10:43] <HewloThere> It's SoftLayer if it makes a difference.
[10:43] <darknote> Amoz: thats what I learn :)
[10:43] <Amoz> HewloThere, what *do* you get in the recovery environment then?
[10:44] <HewloThere> I boot in to rescue mode and connect, but I can't do normal tasks like that
[10:44] <HewloThere> It has important data on it I need.
[10:44] <k1l> HewloThere: so i bet softlayer got a support or customers forums?
[10:44] <Amoz> darknote, just to verify, this is an issue you've got since going from 12.04 -> 14.04, even when you do a fresh 14.04 reinstall?
[10:44] <HewloThere> They have support.
[10:45] <HewloThere> I'm unmanaged.
[10:46] <Amoz> HewloThere, what exactly is "rescue mode" if you can't do e.g. a SSH rescue fix?
[10:46] <k1l> HewloThere: the point is: some hosters have custom selfmade recoveries, so it differs what you can do or what steps you need to do on that exact recovery. so the "regular ubuntu way" may not work because of their special setup. so best is to ask them first
[10:46] <HewloThere> Well, okay.
[10:47] <darknote> Amoz , no I've been using  14.04 for a year , but recently couple of months earlier just after distro update I got the problem... I saw they improved some feature... but it needs high performance graphics
[10:47] <Amoz> HewloThere, maybe you can describe exactly what you changed before ?
[10:47] <k1l> its not about if it is managed by them. its a support issue when you want to recover a system. so see if they offer free support for that (or pay them if its that important) or see if there is a how to in their customer forums or such.
[10:48] <HewloThere> I followed these: http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access http://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simple-easy-way-to-jail-users
[10:48] <k1l> HewloThere: most times you need to mount the server hdd first in the recovery.
[10:48] <HewloThere> Yea, I've done that
[10:49] <Amoz> HewloThere, and what do you see in the mounted directory? Does it look like a normal linux directory tree?
[10:50] <HewloThere> http://paste.hewlothere.me/ipuhalowiz.mel
[10:51] <HewloThere> If I can uninstall OpenSSH then install it, I'm fine, but apt-get doesn't work in recovery.
[10:51] <Amoz> HewloThere, maybe because you need to chroot to the real fs ?
[10:52] <HewloThere> Not sure what you mean?
[10:53] <Amoz> HewloThere, right now you're *outside* the normal directory tree, e.g. your $PATH does not contain your usual tools. If you do /<mntpoint>/usr/bin/apt-get , can you get apt-get to work then?
[10:54] <HewloThere> Err, not sure what the command to mount like that is. :/
[10:54] <Amoz> just try to run it with --help or something, see if it's reachable. And if it is, you can probably do a chroot /mntpoint
[10:54] <HewloThere> Would this be the right syntax? mount -rw -o remount /
[10:55] <Amoz> HewloThere, mountpoint is whatever directory you are in to be able to see the file system tree
[10:55] <Amoz> meh, nvm, it's probably not like that.
[10:56] <Amoz> HewloThere, are able to just show the mounts by running the "mount" command ?
[10:56] <diegoaguilar> Hello, I want to complety remove Windows from my laptop
[10:57] <HewloThere> http://paste.hewlothere.me/uvixanafib.hs
[10:57] <k1l> diegoaguilar: is it a dualboot?
[10:57] <diegoaguilar> I want to install 12.04.5 ( I know theres 14.04 thoug)
[10:57] <buscon> hi
[10:57] <diegoaguilar> can I safely remove EFI partitiion at intaller
[10:57] <cgk24> diego, boot the cd, it has the options
[10:57] <buscon> I have to install the same packages on many different computers
[10:57] <diegoaguilar> to have a new full ubuntu install
[10:57] <diegoaguilar> ?
[10:57] <cgk24> diegoaguilar, yes you can wipe the partition table
[10:57] <cgk24> it will create new boot loade
[10:57] <cgk24> in install cd
[10:58] <buscon> my network is not that fast, so i'd like to put the packages on a local server and install them from that location
[10:58] <k1l> diegoaguilar: ah ok. just boot the usb or cd/dvd and choose "use all hdd" in the installer
[10:58] <buscon> how can I do that?
[10:58] <cgk24> just choose "format whole drive or similiar:
[11:01] <cgk24> thats a good q buscon
[11:01] <diegoaguilar> k1l:  the installer just told me that I should have a an EFI boot partition
[11:02] <diegoaguilar> being at least 35MB in size
[11:02] <HewloThere> It it means anything Amoz or k1l, here is my sshd config http://paste.hewlothere.me/ebidogadif.vala
[11:02] <buscon> cgk24, :)
[11:03] <diegoaguilar> what do u think cgk24 ?
[11:03] <cgk24> just wipe the drive totally it will remove it
[11:03] <cgk24> and you can install ubuntu with grub bootloader
[11:03] <diegoaguilar> cgk Im telling something distinct
[11:03] <cgk24> if you need to go back your windows cd (8, etc) has capability to create new one
[11:04] <diegoaguilar> Im on Ubuntu installert
[11:04] <diegoaguilar> and ubuntu installer its telling me I shoukld have an efi partition for boot
[11:04] <diegoaguilar> "the partition talbe format in use"
[11:05] <JelleS> is there a way to define the cp command so it shows information on how much it has copied, or how long it wil take to finish?
[11:06] <vapeboy> heya, if my shell script looks like this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5bubYzNP
[11:06] <vapeboy> and I want to add apache2 to the list
[11:06] <vapeboy> should I do it like this? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KzZLeW7e
[11:08] <vapeboy> is this correct, in general?
[11:08] <vapeboy> if [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "start/running" ]]
[11:09] <Rudde> Hello! I'm tyring to configure ipsec on ubuntu here, but when I start ip sec I get this error "can not load config '/etc/ipsec.conf': /etc/ipsec.conf:2: syntax error, unexpected BOOLWORD, expecting $end [nat_traversal]" line two in ipsec.conf contain nat_traversal=yes
[11:09] <HewloThere> How can I mount the /home directory in SSH?
[11:10] <HewloThere> I mean, in recovery/rescue mode.
[11:12] <Amoz> HewloThere, what's in the /home you see in the root as of now?
[11:16] <HewloThere> Amoz: It's empty
[11:16] <vapeboy> can anyone help me out please?
[11:18] <Amoz> HewloThere, and I suppose yours wasn't. That probably means that *your* files and the filesystem is *not* mounted as of now. You have to find where your files are. What's "backstore" ?
[11:22] <Afdla> changing mouse sensitivity from options does nothing on 15.04
[11:22] <Afdla> acceleration works but sensitivity doesn't change anyhow
[11:22] <kennydude> Hi, I'm having an issue with an Ubuntu server. APT is reporting there is no space left on the drive yet there is plenty
[11:23] <vapeboy> heya,  if [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "running" ]] doesn't seem to be checking if Apache is running or not
[11:23] <vapeboy> what am I doing wrong? :(
[11:23] <kennydude>  /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - open (28: No space left on device)
[11:23] <Ben64> vapeboy: explain what you're trying to do
[11:23] <vapeboy> Ben64: basically this http://cssjockey.com/how-to-create-a-cron-job-to-start-mysql-if-it-stops/, but for the apache2 process
[11:23] <Ben64> kennydude: pastebin the output of "df -h"
[11:24] <Ben64> vapeboy: ah, so you're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist
[11:24] <vapeboy> what I'm trying to do is to check whether apache is running and if it doesn't, run something
[11:24] <kennydude> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12107135/
[11:24] <vapeboy> Ben64: how do I check whether it's running
[11:25] <vapeboy> Ben64: if [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "running" ]] doesn't seem to work
[11:25] <Ben64> vapeboy: just handle it manually. it won't just stop running randomly
[11:25] <YK> Need help - Installing Ubuntu 15.04 inside Windows 7 ! It says "Restart to continue" and then comes back to boot menu.
[11:25] <badr> slt
[11:26] <vapeboy> Ben64: can you please help me to handle it automatically?
[11:26] <vapeboy> what's wrong with if [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "running" ]]
[11:26] <Ben64> vapeboy: no, theres no good reason for that
[11:27] <Ben64> kennydude: try "sudo touch /root/testfile"
[11:27] <YK> Can someone pls. help me with Ubuntu installation?
[11:27] <k1l> YK: "inside"? do you mean wubi install?
[11:27] <vapeboy> Ben64: can you please make an abstraction?
[11:28] <YK> I kinda want the same ...wubi install but internet articles say .. wubi is no longer supported
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:28] <k1l> YK: wubi is dead. dont use that.
[11:28] <YK> I made a bootable USB
[11:28] <YK> and then from there I ran the installation program
[11:28] <ac3takwas_> hello
[11:28] <k1l> YK: if you want to test ubuntu run it from a usb drive or dvd. if you want to install it install it into real partitions
[11:29] <ac3takwas_> I need to set a default terminal
[11:29] <ac3takwas_> I've tried a few tips I got from the internet
[11:29] <YK> okay k1l. Thanks for that tip.
[11:29] <ac3takwas_> But the problem  isn't solved
[11:30] <ac3takwas_> how do I do this
[11:30] <YK> But I need to use a single virtual file as a partition without changing anything in the disks.
[11:30] <ac3takwas_> ?
[11:30] <YK> Just like Wubi was doing it.
[11:30] <YK> is there a way out?
[11:30] <vapeboy> can anyone please help me?
[11:30] <bazhang> vbox it yk
[11:30] <vapeboy> what is wrong with [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "running" ]]
[11:30] <k1l> YK: wubi is dead. it made too much issues with ubuntu and windows. dont use that anymore.
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !vbox | YK
[11:31] <kennydude> Ben64: Nothing happened when that command was ran
[11:32] <ac3takwas_> does anyone know how to set default terminal in unity?
[11:32] <YK> Thanks all.
[11:33] <Ben64> kennydude: well it should have made a file in /root
[11:33] <Ben64> kennydude: and if it did, then the drive can be written to.. so you got something else going on
[11:33] <Amoz> vapeboy, what exactly do you want to do?
[11:34] <vapeboy> Amoz: check if apache is running or not
[11:34] <YK> Virtual box itself will consume system resources and I may not be getting same performance. I my hp notebook has only 2 GB RAM and with a Windows 10 host... it will be at pure mercy of flawed Windows system
[11:34] <Ben64> vapeboy: don't worry about it, it doesn't stop running on its own...
[11:34] <vapeboy> it does
[11:34] <Ben64> it really doesn't
[11:34] <YK> Is there any better alternate?
[11:35] <kennydude> Ben64: written fine; no idea :/
[11:35] <vapeboy> Ben64: it is not the issue here, if it does or it doesn't
[11:35] <cfhowlett> YK, vbox + lubuntu is much lighter.
[11:35] <vapeboy> I just want to check if it's running or not
[11:35] <Amoz> vapeboy, depending on the context, that should work
[11:35] <Amoz> vapeboy, do you run it in a script?
[11:35] <Ben64> vapeboy: it is the issue, theres no point in making this script run all the time to check and restart it
[11:36] <vapeboy> Amoz, yes and it looks like this: http://pastie.org/private/pzu5ybzrucqdgvoruicuw
[11:36] <Ben64> if apache is crashing, fix that problem, don't make some silly script to restart it
[11:36] <HewloThere> Sorry for the long reply Amoz. I'm not sure what you mean?
[11:37] <pmted> I have compiled a new kernel and installed all of the .deb-files. When I reboot the computer uses the old kernel. Furthermore, the new kernel files does not show up in /boot. What do?
[11:37] <Amoz> vapeboy, and what happens when you run it, and what do you expect to happen?
[11:38] <vapeboy> Amoz: so I've created to shell scripts, one for mysql - http://cssjockey.com/how-to-create-a-cron-job-to-start-mysql-if-it-stops/
[11:38] <vapeboy> which happens to work
[11:38] <vapeboy> and a similar one for apache, which doesn't work
[11:38] <vapeboy> and it looks to me like the issue is this line: [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "running" ]]
[11:38] <Amoz> vapeboy, although I really have to side with Ben64 on this one. You should solve the actual problem.
[11:39] <Ben64> vapeboy: here just run this if you want to be silly. "while [ 0 ]; do service apache2 start; done;"
[11:39] <Amoz> vapeboy, again, what happens when you run your script?
[11:39] <vapeboy> Amoz: apache doesn't start
[11:40] <Amoz> vapeboy, can it start when you run only the command without a script?
[11:41] <vapeboy> Amoz: yes, it does start when I sudo service apache2 start
[11:42] <Amoz> vapeboy, so then the problem is in the script. Put some echos in different places in the script, (e.g. one inside the if-case, and one in the beginning of the script)
[11:42] <Amoz> what happens then? Do you see the echoed text when you run the script?
[11:42] <pmted> I could really use some help on how to boot into my newly created kernel. I'm using EFI, so I am not sure where to change for it to boot into it.
[11:44] <vapeboy> Amoz: yes, I've identified that "if [[ ! "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "running" ]]" does not serve its purpose
[11:45] <ac3takwas_> Can anyone help please?
[11:45] <Ben64> vapeboy: so apache on my server has been running for 354 days, you don't need a script
[11:45] <ac3takwas_> I need to run a CLI-base program e.g Ipython; but it launches with a different terminal from the one Intend it to launch with?
[11:45] <Amoz> ac3takwas_, this was the first hit on google, http://askubuntu.com/questions/70540/how-can-i-set-default-terminal-used-in-unity
[11:46] <ac3takwas_> Amoz, thanks but that doesn't quite help
[11:46] <ac3takwas_> I've been to that link before
[11:47] <Fuchs> ac3takwas_: as in: the wrong graphical terminal launches? If yes: how exactly are you running the CLI based program?
[11:47] <fjx> hi
[11:47] <fjx> are you form
[11:47] <fjx> ?
[11:47] <ac3takwas_> The thing is Each time I run the program, it launches with gnome-terminal despite having set terminator as default
[11:47] <vapeboy> /usr/sbin/service apache2 status returns Apache2 is running (pid 14678).
[11:47] <vapeboy> Amoz: the check looks alright.
[11:47] <cfhowlett> fjx, this is u.buntu support.  ask your support question
[11:47] <sorbolene> anyone familiar here with upstart that can help get my script going?
[11:48] <sorbolene> im getting an error with....
[11:48] <ac3takwas_> Then I uninstalled gnome-terminal
[11:48] <ac3takwas_> And then it began launching xterm
[11:48] <vapeboy> Amoz: is it "=~" perhaps?
[11:48] <sorbolene> setgid / setuid doesn't work
[11:48] <ac3takwas_> Again I uninstalled xterm, then it doesn't run at all
[11:48] <Amoz> vapeboy, works for me
[11:49] <vapeboy> Amoz: hm
[11:49] <Ben64> vapeboy: really, fix the problem instead of putting duct tape over it
[11:49] <Amoz> ac3takwas_, how do you start Ipython? You can just open a terminal of your choice and run "ipython" no?
[11:49] <ioria> vapeboy, for me is working... but would be better understand the deep cause
[11:49] <vapeboy> the whole "check if up, start if it isn't
[11:49] <vapeboy> " thing, Amoz?
[11:49] <ac3takwas_> I'd expect it to run since terminator is the only option of a terminal left for it to run with, but "no"
[11:49] <ac3takwas_> Amoz, yeah I know that
[11:50] <ac3takwas_> I'm only trying to guard against other programs that might be faced with the same issue
[11:50] <Amoz> vapeboy, http://pastebin.ca/3110389
[11:50] <Amoz> ac3takwas_, do you start ipython from a graphical menu somewhere?
[11:51] <Amoz> vapeboy, just make sure your shell is bash
[11:51] <ac3takwas_> Yes
[11:51] <Amoz> ac3takwas_, then it's probably hardcoded in the command for the launcher icon
[11:51] <ioria> vapeboy,if you post the script (i know, it 's on the website) maybe we spot an error
[11:52] <fjx> icon' t see
[11:52] <ac3takwas_> Okay, that's may be true
[11:52] <ac3takwas_> And anyway I might be able to edit that?
[11:52] <Ben64> the error is the script, its not necessary and can hide problems. instead of finding out why apache is crashing you just start it again, who cares right
[11:53] <fjx> I form china
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !cn | fjx
[11:54] <vapeboy> Amoz: "just make sure your shell is bash" <- how do I do it?
[11:54] <Amoz> vapeboy, put #!/bin/bash in the beginning of the script
[11:54] <ioria> vapeboy,   #!/bin/bash
[11:54] <vapeboy> Amoz: also, this always gives me doesnt, both when apache is down and up: http://pastie.org/private/ohpuvd9ohurvwhuq9bh1fg
[11:55] <Amoz> vapeboy, but again, look at the logs for apache. You really have something weird going on here if it randomly crashes. So you aren't solving this in a good way
[11:55] <ioria> vapeboy,      forgot this #!/bin/bash
[11:55] <anlashok> hello, what's new with ubuntu
[11:55] <Ben64> vapeboy: seriously, why are you not fixing the actual problem
[11:55] <fjx> i don't now
[11:56] <ac3takwas_> Amoz, thanks for your help
[11:57] <Amoz> vapeboy, remove the "!" in front
[11:57] <ac3takwas_> Guys, how can I restrict internet usage by certain apps on Ubuntu?
[11:58] <Amoz> vapeboy, lol
[11:58] <ioria> yep
[11:58] <Amoz> vapeboy, nvm, the reason for this is that you're checking something that doesn't change a state I believe
[11:59] <Ben64> Amoz: nope
[11:59] <ioria> no, true
[11:59] <Ben64> oh for returning both
[11:59] <Amoz> vapeboy, service status ALWAYS outputs the substring "running"
[12:00] <Amoz> either "is not running", or "is running"
[12:00] <Amoz> you have to check for the substring "not running" to actually see a difference between the two.
[12:00] <sorbolene> Amoz: you doing upstart troubleshooting here?
[12:00] <Amoz> sorbolene, no
[12:00] <Ben64> OR, actually fix the problem instead of making this script at all!
[12:00] <vapeboy> Amoz: hmmmmm, interesting
[12:00] <Ben64> we don't need any more vulnerable servers to become mail relays
[12:01] <vapeboy> Amoz: so if [[ "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "not running" ]]
[12:01] <Amoz> vapeboy, try it
[12:01] <Amoz> and come back if you still have problems
[12:01] <Ben42> vapeboy: really, why not fix the problem of apache crashing?
[12:02] <vapeboy> /usr/sbin/service apache2 status ——> Apache2 is NOT running.
[12:02] <vapeboy> Amoz: stil ldoesn't work
[12:03] <Amoz> vapeboy, works here
[12:03] <vapeboy> Amoz: if [[ "$(/usr/sbin/service apache2 status)" =~ "not running" ]]
[12:03] <vapeboy> ?
[12:03] <Amoz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12107331/
[12:03] <Amoz> va
[12:03] <Amoz> vapeboy, ^
[12:04] <sparky> hello guys
[12:04] <Amoz> although, change lighttpd to apache ofc
[12:05] <bobbyphoton> vapeboy: why not fix the actual problem of apache crashing?
[12:05] <Amoz> vapeboy, exactly how do you determine that "it doesn't work" ?
[12:05] <vapeboy> Amoz: hm, it always gives me the "else" option, both when apache is down and up
[12:05] <Amoz> vapeboy, post your script
[12:06] <vapeboy> Amoz: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=75J0txxG
[12:07] <Timster> Hey, guys - is it possible to create an user on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS that only has SFTP access to his home directory, no SSH access?
[12:07] <Amoz> vapeboy, works here
[12:07] <bobbyphoton> vapeboy: you're spending a whooole lot of time on this script when you should be fixing apache
[12:07] <vapeboy> i leave apache up, I do ~/apachefix.sh it gives me "running". I stop the apache, run ~/apachefix.sh it gives me "running" again
[12:08] <vapeboy> Amoz: you were testing lighttpd
[12:08] <Amoz> vapeboy, indeed
[12:08] <vapeboy> Amoz: can you try apache2 instead?
[12:08] <Amoz> no
[12:08] <Volis> Hi, I'm trying to fix a computer. It connects to the wifi but there is no internet. I'm not sure what the problem is. Here's what the output is with ifconfig, route and ping: http://pastie.org/10356502
[12:09] <Ben64> vapeboy: it works on apache, maybe you just need to FIX APACHE
[12:09] <Amoz> vapeboy, just check the output from service status, is that the same when you manually stop and start it?
[12:09] <vapeboy> Ben64: have you got OCD or something? you've written the same damn thing like a million times now
[12:09] <Amoz> vapeboy, or better yet, show me exactly the two different outputs from service status when apache is "stopped" and "started".
[12:09] <sorbolene> amoz: if you have time, are you able to assist? in my upstart log, i keep getting "setuid: not found" - http://pastebin.com/9BTXT3ij
[12:10] <Ben64> vapeboy: because it is IMPORTANT, you should not be running a server if you don't care to fix problems, and want a script to ignore the problem for you. thats how you will get your server hacked and rooted and exploited. i'm trying to help you and you're just ignoring everything
[12:10] <vapeboy> Amoz: /usr/sbin/service apache2 status -> Apache2 is running (pid 16015).
[12:11] <clays> hello
[12:11] <Volis> It's my friend's laptop and he asked someone to fix the lan so he probably played around with a couple of fixes and messed up.
[12:11] <clays> who can help mi whit use secound disk in virt manager?
[12:11] <vapeboy> Amoz: /usr/sbin/service apache2 status -> Apache2 is NOT running.
[12:11] <Amoz> vapeboy, it's case sensitive
[12:12] <Amoz> vapeboy, you can't put "not running" if the actual string you're checking for is "NOT running"
[12:12] <Ben64> vapeboy: i give up, come back when your server gets hacked, have a good night
[12:12] <Volis> Is there something like restore in Ubuntu? I've tried resetting the network manager with the `sudo service network-manager restart` but that didn't help.
[12:12] <vapeboy> Amoz: let me try that
[12:12] <winsux> does anyone have problems with m4a playback in vlc 2.2.1 on ubuntu 14.04? i can't seek in vlc and the total length in seconds is just wrong (i.e. times 2)
[12:12] <clays> who can help mi with use secound disk in virt manager?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Volis, restore?  not so much.  reconfigure?  absolutely
[12:13] <vapeboy> Amoz: you are right, it is case sensitive
[12:13] <vapeboy> that solved it, tyvm <3
[12:13] <vapeboy> Ben64: I will fix my apache, I'm just setting up parachutes
[12:14] <Ben64> thats setting yourself up for ignorance
[12:14] <sorbolene> Ben64 / Amoz : able to offer some tips for my scenario, posted above
[12:14] <clays> anybody will help me ?
[12:15] <Ben64> sorbolene: install setuid
[12:15] <sorbolene> Ben64: i thought it came built with init?
[12:15] <Ben64> nope
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !ask | clay
[12:15] <sorbolene> gosh damn
[12:15] <Volis> cfhowlett: Looking from the command history, it looks like this guy checked things with nmcli, saw resolv.conf, added something with route add -net, probably edited /etc/network/interfaces
[12:15] <Volis> That's it.
[12:16] <sorbolene> Ben64: which package is it?
[12:16] <Ben64> sorbolene: type "setuid" in terminal to find out
[12:16] <cfhowlett> Volis, yow.  wow.  completely over my head.  I've done the *very* occasional dpkg --reconfigure foo.deb - not sure that's helpful here
[12:17] <sorbolene> bloody genius Ben64
[12:17] <Volis> cfhowlett: :(
[12:17] <Amoz> Volis, so you have an IP on the if ?
[12:18] <TJ-> Volis: that pastebin tells us: 1. there are 2 Ethernet interfaces, both configured and presumably connected.  2. they are both on the same sub-net (192.168.0.0/24) 3. Both are configured as a default route. 4. for routing, eth0 has preference (metric is lowest). 5. "unknown host" means DNS resolution is failing
[12:19] <Volis> Amoz: I'm not sure what you mean but the ip address is 192.168.0.102 http://pastie.org/10356502
[12:20] <Amoz> Volis, sounds like TJ knows more here :P
[12:20] <TJ-> Volis:  "nmcli device" will tell you what interfaces Network Manager" is managing/are connected
[12:20] <Volis> TJ-: oh, okay I need to reset the preference then? There isn't any LAN cable connected.
[12:20] <Volis> ok
[12:20] <TJ-> Volis: "ls -l /etc/reoslv.conf" should show that is a symlink "/etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[12:21] <TJ-> Volis: "/etc/network/interfaces" should, at most, only have entries for "iface lo" if NM is expected to automatically manage the network
[12:21] <TJ-> Volis: typo, grr! "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" should show that is a symlink "/etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[12:21] <sorbolene> Ben64: i got further.."use : setuid uid|username comand ..."
[12:22] <Volis> TJ-: Yes, there is symlink. And, only wlan0 is in 'connected' state. Rest eth0 and lo are in unmanaged state. I've never heard about 'lo' before, it's of type 'loopback'
[12:22] <TJ-> Volis: the contents of "/etc/resolv.conf" should usually be only "nameserver 127.0.1.1" (plus # comments).
[12:22] <TJ-> Volis: "lo" is the kernel's internal loopback interface, it always exists
[12:23] <TJ-> Volis: The way DNS resolution works is this: Network Manager runs its own private instance of 'dnsmasq' a caching DNS resolver, which listens for local connections on 127.0.1.1 (the address in resolv.conf)
[12:23] <bencc> how can I find which packages also install http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/fonts/fonts-crosextra-carlito?
[12:24] <Volis> TJ-: Here's what's in /etc/network/interfaces http://pastie.org/10356522
[12:24] <TJ-> Volis: When Network Manager supervises a new connection, and that connection is set to use DHCP, it launches /sbin/dhclient which gets the DHCP lease, the upstream DNS servers, and anything else the DHCP server hands out. NM then passes the nameserver entries to its private instance of dnsmasq
[12:25] <Volis> oh
[12:26] <TJ-> Volis: OK ... remove everything but the first 2 lines... you don't want anything for eth0 in there, else NM will ignore the eth0 interface and its settings can conflict. Do this first: "sudo ifdown eth0" then edit "/etc/network/interfaces" and just leave the entries for "lo"
[12:26] <Volis> Okay, captain!
[12:27] <winsux> my vlc 2.2.1 wont play m4a and some mp4 files anymore. does anyone have had the same problem and know if this can be fixed?
[12:27] <TJ-> Volis: after editing 'interfaces' restart NM: "sudo service network-manager restart"
[12:27] <winsux> a reinstall didn't fix the problem. removing h265 support did not work either
[12:28] <TJ-> Volis: now "nmcli device" should show eth0 as 'unavailable' or 'disconnected'
[12:28] <BBLLCC> > /ignore nick all doesnt seem to work for me
[12:28] <BBLLCC> can anyone help me?
[12:29] <Volis> TJ-: YAY. It works! Thanks :)
[12:29] <TJ-> Volis: great
[12:30] <TJ-> Volis make sure both wlan0 and eth0 work independently by disconnecting one then the other and reconnecting
[12:30] <Volis> TJ-: I'm on my way to become communications engineer. Which books should I sworn by to become a master like you?
[12:30] <winsux> how do you list packages installed by a particular ppa?
[12:31] <TJ-> Volis: none. Hack with systems and read the man-pages, read the source-code, and set up complex scenarios and break them ... then figure out how to fix them
[12:31] <Volis> Sure thing!
[12:31] <Amoz> Volis, what's a "communications engineer" ? It's quite important that you know all the basics for networking. E.g. layers, routing, protocols etc. Hard to give specific advice.
[12:31] <TJ-> Volis: the beauty of open-source is... it's open to you, it is up to you to dig in.. you can dig right down to the hardware if you really want to and no one will stop you
[12:32] <Amoz> Volis, although, linux troubleshooting is more of man-pages and know the tools, as TJ wrote.
[12:32] <Volis> Amoz: The major is actually Electronics and Communications Engineering.
[12:33] <docmur> I have tftpd-hpa running as a PXE server.  Until until last night it was fine, then for no reason at all it just stopped working, I've rebooted the server and now when I try to start it I get [....] Starting HPA's tftpd: in.tftpd#  and then run I check the status: [FAIL] in.tftpd is not running ... failed!  Nothing I do seems to bring this tftpd up anymore.
[12:33] <Volis> I'm hoping to start contributing to some projects and then apply for Google Summer of Code next year.
[12:33] <Amoz> Volis, sounds like you study a lot of networks then, no?
[12:33] <TJ-> Volis: use virtual machine networks on your own PC to experiment with scenarios you don't have the hardware for. Look at software network simulation tools too
[12:33] <ac3takwas_> Hello, how do I stop username from displaying in terminal
[12:34] <ac3takwas_> I only need the dollar sign
[12:34] <Amoz> ac3takwas_, edit your PS1 environment variable
[12:34] <Volis> Amoz: I've just started. I don't see a Network course till the 4th year though. It's weird.
[12:34] <temo1997> hi i have some problem... i need root ,but root user passwd is incorrect
[12:34] <TJ-> Volis: there's several simulators out there, see this list http://www.brianlinkletter.com/open-source-network-simulators/
[12:34] <winsux> ac3takwas, something like PS1="$ "
[12:34] <Amoz> Volis, oh... I'm in a generic MoS of IT, and we studied a computer networks course in 3rd year.
[12:35] <TJ-> Volis: For your purposes I recommend Marionnet
[12:35] <Amoz> temo1997, ubuntu doesn't have a root passwd by default. You should use sudo
[12:35] <Volis> Thanks, TJ- I'll check them out! :)
[12:35] <Amoz> Volis, uh, the correct term is M.Sc , not MoS :P
[12:36] <temo1997> yes i already try it with sudo passwd but nothing it`s can`t open
[12:36] <Volis> Heh, I'd already google'd that out of amazement.
[12:36] <ac3takwas_> Amoz, Volis, sorry to bother you, but how do I do that?
[12:37] <temo1997> in user`s i cant show root but sudo -sH is root
[12:37] <Amoz> ac3takwas_, you'll have to set it in e.g. bashrc
[12:37] <Volis> ac3takwas_: Why do you want that though?
[12:37] <GALAXY_> Hello
[12:37] <temo1997> hi
[12:38] <ac3takwas_> Amoz, thanks
[12:38] <ac3takwas_> Volis, I find it generally needless
[12:38] <GALAXY_> how can i chat through terminal
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !irc | GALAXY_
[12:39] <Volis> GALAXY_: Check out terminal based IRC applications? irssi comes to mind.
[12:40] <Volis> ac3takwas_: echo 'export PS1="\W \$"' >> ~/.bash_profile
[12:40] <TJ-> ac3takwas_: see "man bash" or for a quick overview do "man bash | egrep -A10  'PS1|^PROMPTING' "
[12:41] <ac3takwas_> Volis, edited the bashrc file instead. It worked. Thanks
[12:44] <cumaxo> how can I check if all my graphics drivers are running properly?
[12:44] <Johnny_Linux> glxgears
[12:45] <Johnny_Linux> in terminal
[12:45] <cumaxo> ok thks
[12:45] <cfhowlett> cumaxo, glxgears is the default.   there are others.  http://phoronix-test-suite.com/
[12:46] <Buddha_Nepal> how can i join new channel, i m new here
[12:46] <LibertyWeNeed> You are in the UBuntu channel now
[12:46] <k1l> Buddha_Nepal: /join #channelname
[12:46] <Amoz> goopen,
[12:47] <Buddha_Nepal> case sensitive or not?
[12:47] <k1l> Buddha_Nepal: not on irc
[12:47] <Buddha_Nepal> join #linuxhelp
[12:47] <goopen> Amoz: what
[12:47] <Johnny_Linux>  /
[12:47] <Buddha_Nepal> :)
[12:50] <Buddha_Nepal> ./join #linuxhelp
[12:52] <Buddha_Nepal> Learning something NEW :D
[13:26] <Legend> hello every one
[13:39] <sohail-ahmed> The fonts of some application in my computer are messed up and have turned into some Korean language. This applications are all libreoffice, calibre, .. . For example in libreoffice writer I can write in english and even see that english but the menus and tool bar items are all in the korean and when I open some dialog box its again in the same korean. Many other apps are working perfrectly. Any solutions??
[13:41] <cumaxo> hello ... Ive just installed Plank dock , but when I restart my computer , the dock dissapear...
[13:41] <Jackevansevo> cumaxo: have you added it to your startup applications?
[13:41] <cumaxo> hmm I dont think so...
[13:41] <Jackevansevo> sohail-ahmed: just the problem persist after a reboot?
[13:42] <Jackevansevo> cumaxo: Try adding it to your startup applications list
[13:42] <cumaxo> do you know the command for add it?
[13:42] <sohail-ahmed> Jackevansevo: Thanks for repsonding, yes the problem remain there after reboot
[13:42] <Jackevansevo> cumaxo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[13:42] <Jackevansevo> cumaxo: follow those instructions
[13:43] <Technobliterator> anyone know how to check hard drive space?
[13:43] <Jackevansevo> sohail-ahmed: what languages are listed when you open gnome-language-selector
[13:44] <cumaxo> hmmm the problem for me is I dont know the order for launch Plank
[13:44] <Jackevansevo> Technobliterator: df -H
[13:44] <Jackevansevo> Technobliterator: In your terminal should show usage and remaining space for each disk partition
[13:45] <Jackevansevo> cumaxo: it can go anywhere in the starupapplications menu, the command will just be "plank"
[13:45] <cumaxo> ok
[13:45] <Technobliterator> right...Okay, it's telling me there's tons of HDD space left in a few partitions, but then when I try to install a game on Steam, it just gives me "you do not have enough hard drive space" still...?_?
[13:45] <sohail-ahmed> Jackevansevo: english(US), autralia, canada, uk
[13:45] <Fuchs> Technobliterator: well, the space has to be where steam wants to put it.  df -h   might help
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, steam is hungry.  if the partition is to small ..
[13:46] <Technobliterator> okay, how do I assign it more space?
[13:46] <Jackevansevo> sohail-ahmed: I'm unsure what the problem could be then :/
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, do this: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999           and show the url here
[13:47] <mcphail> Technobliterator: you need to go in to the steam settings and create a new library on one of your emptier partitions
[13:48] <Technobliterator> http://termbin.com/9kao
[13:48] <sohail-ahmed> Jackevansevo: Does it not help that only some of applications are affected by this problem. I researched it and have found that some apps use qt-fonts and I think calibre and libreoffice use it. Therefore I have the problem with all the app using qt-fonts.
[13:48] <cumaxo> ACPI PCC failed ? this appear in blackscreen when i start my pc
[13:49] <TJ-> cumaxo: that is a warning message that you can safely ignore. Later kernel's have patched that warning out
[13:49] <cumaxo> ok TJ , thank u so much
[13:50] <cumaxo> another question . I have installed nvidia drivers and Intell drivers from the drivers manager in Linux , how coul I check if all the graphics cards are running properly?
[13:51] <Jackevansevo> sohail-ahmed: maybe try the instructions at the bottom of this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140957
[13:51] <cfhowlett> cumaxo, phoronix test suite for the deep level testing.  glxgears for simpler testing
[13:51] <BluesKaj> cumaxo:  Optimus?
[13:51] <Technobliterator> is there a way to create my library on /dev/sda2?
[13:51] <cumaxo> yes
[13:51] <cumaxo> but I dont know if optimus is running here...
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, before you do that: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <cumaxo> I have no idea how to install and configure bumblebee...and if this can turn in blankscreen later...
[13:52] <Technobliterator> http://termbin.com/iqnw
[13:52] <Technobliterator> is result
[13:52] <BluesKaj> !optimus | cumaxo
[13:52] <cumaxo> i know... but how to configure?
[13:53] <cumaxo> and I dont know if the Intel graphics drivers are the proper drivers ...
[13:53] <BluesKaj> cumaxo:  but not sure if bumblebee is even supported anymore
[13:53] <BluesKaj> cumaxo:  nvidia-prime driver I believe
[13:54] <cumaxo> nvidia-prime driver for what?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, steam should not be reporting problems when you have such a huge amount of space. try it from the command line and note errors: sudo apt-get install steam
[13:55] <Technobliterator> alright, I've done that
[13:56] <Technobliterator> (though I already had steam installed, it went fine)
[13:56] <sohail-ahmed> Jackevansevo: my locales are already as they should be. all in en_US.UTF-8
[13:56] <Technobliterator> no errors
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, wait, what?  you said it reported not enough memory!
[13:56] <cfhowlett> ?
[13:56] <Technobliterator> to install one of the games
[13:57] <Technobliterator> in the Steam library
[13:57] <Dorfen> Hi guys! So ubuntu just threw the connection to my 3rd monitor. Every time i try to go ubuntu after a month or so this happens. How do i fix?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, ah, so it's a STEAM issue then, not ubuntu.  ask steam what's up with that.
[13:57] <Technobliterator> alright, thanks
[13:57] <Technobliterator> although, confusingly enough
[13:57] <cfhowlett> true :)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> cumaxo:  this might help http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Optimus/
[13:57] <Technobliterator> I restarted and it's now working ?__?
[13:57] <Technobliterator> anyway, thanks for the help all the same
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !home | Technobliterator suggestion: create a dedicated /home.  otherwise, on reinstall, all your goodies go bye bye.
[13:59] <boriseto> does anybody else has problems when trying to buy software from Ubuntu Software Center? It gets stuck at: Processing your request for "***"...  Information received
[14:00] <Technobliterator> alright, what does this do?
[14:01] <annbow> ... or mv the steam directory from your home to a different partition, then add the mount point to fstab
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Technobliterator, when you install ubuntu, the partition usually gets formatted.  your /home is IN your ubuntu partition.  thus >>> formatted >>> gone.  a dedicated partition remains in place during a reinstall.  just a suggestion.
[14:02] <Technobliterator> ahh, right
[14:03] <Technobliterator> Okay, I'll bear that in mind, thanks
[14:06] <Yashka> Hey
[14:06] <Dorfen> Could some xrandr magician spare me some minutes guidance?
[14:08] <zykotick9> Dorfen: fyi, arandr is a GUI xrandr frontend, that has a "Save" to script option... i find it handy.  best of luck.
[14:09] <Dorfen> Think this might be more tricky, as arandr doesn't save correctly.
[14:13]  * zykotick9 would ask what "doesn't save correctly" means... BUT he's walking out the door... good luck
[14:15] <OneM_Industries> So, Ubuntu 14.04LTS is going to be supported for quite a while, yeah?
[14:16] <benjwadams> per the conventions in `man hier`, where ought I deploy my programs on production?  I've seen wildly varying
[14:16] <OerHeks> that is why it is called LTS
[14:16] <benjwadams> conventions and the only common factor is that programs seem to be deployed in different places on different boxes
[14:17] <benjwadams> sometimes /home/, sometimes a separate dir off root, sometimes /opt/, sometimes /var, `man hier` seems to suggest /usr/local and my head wants to explode
[14:18] <OneM_Industries> Thank you, wanted to put something on this laptop that would be supported for a long time that was NOT windows.
[14:19] <pancakes9> Hey how do I wget or curl a link like https://pm.puppetlabs.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi? which gives me a small file instead of the the 100MB install file?
[14:19] <varaindemian> how do I know if my ssd supports trim?
[14:19] <Rudde> So I manged to configure L2TP/IpSec server on my ubuntu box, but I get really bad speeds I have 100/20 Mbit and get something like 1.5/5 Mbit, and via sockets proxy to the same server I get 100/15 mbit
[14:20] <varaindemian> I have this ssd https://www.wave.com/mz7ln256hchp-000l7
[14:20] <Rudde> CPU load is on 2% under l2tp load
[14:20] <varaindemian> on a Thinkpad T450
[14:22] <OerHeks> varaindemian, sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdX | grep "TRIM supported" # where X is sda/sdb/sdc etc
[14:23] <varaindemian> OerHeks: thx.  do you use it?
[14:23] <OerHeks> varaindemian, , trim is automatic enabled , but you can run manually: sudo fstrim -v /
[14:24] <OerHeks> that can take a while on a 512 gb ssd :-D
[14:25] <varaindemian> OerHeks: sudo: hdparm: command not found
[14:25] <OerHeks> varaindemian, so you are not running ubuntu ?
[14:25] <varaindemian> debian...
[14:26] <OerHeks> oh, ask in #debian what to do about hdparm
[14:26] <OerHeks> Ubuntu has got it installed default
[14:39] <OneM_Industries> I am trying to create a boot USB, and the startup disk creator cannot see my USB stick.
[14:43] <LambdaComplex> OneM_Industries: Does it show up in lsusb and lsblk?
[14:44] <OneM_Industries> Yes, I can mount it.
[14:45] <OneM_Industries> And it shows up in lsblk and lsusb
[14:45] <OerHeks> format that usb as fat32 and you are fine
[14:49] <OneM_Industries> Now, let's see if this lenovo can handle ubuntu...
[14:51] <Guest62995> hiewwwwww
[15:01] <ioria> Ben64 : are you there ?
[15:20] <loa> can somebody explain me how can i check why package is kept back
[15:20] <loa> if there some kind of command?
[15:27] <Seveas> loa: apt-get upgrade
[15:32] <aterax> ))
[15:33] <loa> Seveas, ... i am talking about packages which are kept back by this command
[15:34] <s37> t
[15:35] <ioria> loa do you want to install them ?
[15:36] <loa> iooner, i want ivestigate...
[15:36] <loa> iooner, investigate.
[15:36] <prince>  /msg NickServ identify spiderman
[15:38] <ioria> loa "If the dependencies have changed on one of the packages you have installed so that a new package must be installed to perform the upgrade then that will be listed as "kept-back".
[15:38] <Pici> loa: it may be fixed by doing an apt-get dist-upgrade.
[15:38] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | obligitory
[15:39] <ioria> yes, but maybe he wants to upgrade just one package
[15:39] <Pici> perhaps
[15:39] <loa> Pici, is there any way of debug or tree view?
[15:39] <loa> i can't understand what happened
[15:39] <loa> i will show you output wait
[15:40] <loa> Pici, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2015.08.17-18%3A40%3A24.png
[15:40] <loa> ignore that linux-kernel related packages
[15:42] <k1l_> loa: the kernel packages are "new installs" in reality, since its the metapackage which will need the new packages to be installed. so it needs the "apt-get dist-upgrade" command
[15:42] <loa> k1l_, kenel packages are no hold by me ignore them.
[15:42] <loa> k1l_, i am talking about that drm stuff
[15:43] <k1l_> could be other new depencies by that drm stuff
[15:44] <loa> so i understand now...
[15:44] <loa> i need just do dist-upgrade
[15:45] <k1l_> yes. that is a very confusing way of naming and function but its due to the very old days when apt-get was made. today we use apt-get differently in that context on ubuntu. for the versionupgrades to 15.04 etc we use "do-release-upgrade" and not apt-get.
[15:46] <k1l_> you can use the newer "apt" to have less confusion. "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[15:47] <segaboy> looking for help virtualizing a Rasbian image with lib-virt. Has anyone has success with this? It seems I need a special kernel that's no longer online...
[15:49] <OneM_Industries> I have a Lenovo g50 laptop that I am trying to get wifi working on.
[15:49] <OneM_Industries> For some reason, wifi is not showing up as an option in networking.
[15:58] <loa> k1l_, wow that apt thing)) i did not know about that...
[16:04] <amirite> ARRRRRGH
[16:05] <buscon> hi
[16:05] <daftykins> amirite: can you phrase that as a question?
[16:05] <buscon> i'm running 13.10 and i'm trying to update to 14.04
[16:05] <amirite> how do i fix unverified packages in my apt repo? i updated the expiration date of the gpg key so it's no longer expired and exported the key to ppa.blah.com.key
[16:05] <cfhowlett> daftykins, question?  I thought it was commentary :)
[16:05] <buscon> when i run do-release-upgrade  i get a "No new release found"
[16:05] <amirite> yet stuff still doesn't install without force
[16:06] <buscon> how can i fix that?
[16:06] <amirite> i can't google this question because everybody who asks this is asking from the client side perspective
[16:06] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | buscon
[16:06] <amirite> i'm the server
[16:06] <onefix> Anyone know of a mount option in FSTAB that will automatically zero unused blocks (similar to zerofree, but live).
[16:07] <amirite> so why is a package unverified? what are the causes?
[16:07] <daftykins>  onefix - like trim?
[16:08] <onefix> I never thought of that...but trim might just be what I want
[16:08] <daftykins> assuming SSD
[16:09] <artois> onefix: think it's usually called 'discard' in fstab-speak
[16:09] <onefix> No,m VMware, I'm trying to make sure that thin provisioned VMDKs can free up unused space.
[16:09] <artois> sure they aren't?
[16:09] <LonelyDanbo> If Ubuntu had a swap file partition, it would be mounted, right? so if I have a swap file partition that's not mounted it probably belongs to the other OS I installed {Debian} and it's safe to delete it, right?
[16:10] <artois> LonelyDanbo: no swap isn't mounted
[16:10] <LonelyDanbo> ... oh.
[16:10] <artois> try sudo swapon -s
[16:10] <artois> or check /etc/fstab
[16:11] <LonelyDanbo> k, thanks. I'll check.
[16:11] <artois> if you accidentally deleted a swap partition, though, no particularly enduring harm would be done =)
[16:11] <artois> it's just an empty space to swap things, after all
[16:11] <buscon> cfhowlett, thanks for the links, i followed them but i still get "No new release found"
[16:12] <LonelyDanbo> hm. I guess so.
[16:12] <cfhowlett> buscon, download the 14.04 .iso and clean install.
[16:12] <OneM_Industries> Ok, so I am trying to get wireless working on this lenovo g50. I have run this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108 script, and here: pastebin.com/qwaMRkQH is the output. Any ideas?
[16:12] <buscon> cfhowlett, eheh, it might be the easiest option...
[16:12] <buscon> but i'd have rather keep the current system
[16:13] <cfhowlett> buscon, your current version receives NO security updates or other support.  use at your own risk and don't ask here for help fixing it.
[16:14] <daftykins> buscon: go into your software and sources settings and check for what release types you're offered, unless that's what you were shown already
[16:15] <LonelyDanbo> changing partitions always makes me nervous. I'm not sure what to do, but right now I have my HD mostly split in two and I need more space.
[16:16] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, live boot > gparted > resize.
[16:16] <LambdaComplex> ^
[16:16] <LonelyDanbo> live boot is with the installer?
[16:17] <LambdaComplex> Live boot with any Live CD
[16:17] <LambdaComplex> Well, any Live CD that has gparted :P
[16:17] <LonelyDanbo> or ISO? I don't have a CD drive.
[16:17] <LambdaComplex> Or parted/cfdisk/anything else. Those are CLI though
[16:17] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, bootable USB?
[16:17] <LambdaComplex> Putting the .iso on a USB drive should work
[16:17] <LambdaComplex> (assuming your computer supports booting from USB drives)
[16:18] <LonelyDanbo> why is gparted done from a live boot instead?
[16:18] <LambdaComplex> Because you can't resize a mounted partition
[16:18] <LonelyDanbo> oh. good to know.
[16:18] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, partitioning from a live system is bad.  BAD.
[16:18] <LambdaComplex> cfhowlett: Um...you mean the thing literally every Linux installer does?
[16:18] <SuperLag> haha
[16:19] <SuperLag> that's what I was just thinking
[16:19] <cfhowlett> LambdaComplex, live system meaning booted from hdd installed
[16:19] <LambdaComplex> How else are you supposed to partition to install...any OS?
[16:19] <LambdaComplex> Oh, gotcha
[16:19] <cfhowlett> semantics: live session = usb /cd booted  ?
[16:19] <LambdaComplex> cfhowlett: Why is that bad though? O.o
[16:21] <cfhowlett> LambdaComplex, you actually can but it will likely break your installation.  as you said: partitioning from a mounted, booted partition is not to be done.
[16:21] <LambdaComplex> Oh dear god no
[16:21] <LambdaComplex> That'd would end horribly
[16:21] <cfhowlett> LambdaComplex, for sure.
[16:22] <LonelyDanbo> How can I change my mouse LED colors? I've found info on changing keyboard LED colors, but it doesn't work with my mouse. The Windows program for it doesn't change the colors through Wine.
[16:22] <kyda> Hey! Could somebody help me? Im using Ubuntu Studio and i have annoying problems with mouse and dropdown menus. Everytime i click dropdown menu it appears and dispappear again if i move my mouse while doing it. Any solution? Thanks
[16:23] <OneM_Industries> Anyone?
[16:24] <LonelyDanbo> Hm. I found different results for [linux mouse led color], so perhaps I was doing the wrong search when I was looking for my specific model of mouse.
[16:24] <OneM_Industries> I really need help with this laptop, lspci is not even seeing the wireless adapter.
[16:24] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: then maybe it's USB, 'lsusb' instead
[16:25] <LonelyDanbo> I had problems with my laptop wifi recently.
[16:25] <maja> hello, does any one have experance with bluetooth ?
[16:25] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: oh and it does as per your paste, i see a Qualcomm Atheros device.
[16:25] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | maja
[16:25] <OneM_Industries> Ah ha, that might be it.
[16:26] <kyda> Please help!  Im using Ubuntu Studio and i have annoying problems with mouse and dropdown menus. Everytime i click dropdown menu it appears and dispappear again if i move my mouse while doing it. Any solution? Thanks
[16:26] <LonelyDanbo> It was in the... software & updates -> additional drivers tab. I had to wait for it to finish searching, and then it listed it disabled.
[16:26] <OneM_Industries> Still, I cannot see a wireless option in the network manager.
[16:26] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: yeah that's not supported under Linux yet by the looks.
[16:26] <maja> cfhowlett: i have tried that but no joy
[16:26] <OneM_Industries> D'oh!
[16:26] <cfhowlett> maja, post the details here.  someone will know.
[16:26] <OneM_Industries> So, aside from a USB stick, any way to get wifi on this thing?
[16:27] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: there's one thing you can try, are you typing from this system right now?
[16:27] <maja> one sec :)
[16:27] <OneM_Industries> No, I am typing from my main box.
[16:27] <LonelyDanbo> are you sure it's bluetooth wifi?
[16:27] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok well try opening the terminal and typing "sudo modprobe ath9k" then type "ifconfig -a" and tell me if you see an *interface* other than eth0 or lo
[16:27] <skyrajput> how can i develop a client server architecture  using c language ?
[16:28] <daftykins> skyrajput: find a developer channel for that question, it is NOT ubuntu support.
[16:28] <maja>  sudo bluez-simple-agent hci0 74:29:AF:9E:11:FC
[16:28] <maja> Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[16:28] <daftykins> !alis | skyrajput use this
[16:28] <k1l_> skyrajput: that question better suits into a c developer channel. see !alis if you want to find some
[16:28] <maja> hcitool dev works ok but simple agent fail :(
[16:29] <skyrajput> thanks !
[16:29] <LonelyDanbo> OneM_Industries: I don't think your wifi is only bluetooth. check software & updates -> additional drivers tab, and wait for it to finish searching.
[16:29] <skyrajput> (y)
[16:29] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: I still don't see any other interfaces.
[16:29] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok and "sudo modprobe -r ath9k" then "sudo modprobe ath10k" and repeat
[16:30] <OneM_Industries> LonelyDanbo: I have, and it only shows AMD video drivers.
[16:30] <salman_> ي
[16:30] <salman_> hi
[16:30] <mhmo> hello every one, just installed Xubuntu 14.04 :D
[16:31] <OneM_Industries> According to modprobe, module ath10k is not found.
[16:32] <artois> salman_: hi
[16:32] <cfhowlett> mhmo, current version is 14.04.3.  in a terminal: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[16:33] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok, you're out of luck then - as per this bug they've not made it user friendly yet, still working on getting the firmware it seems - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1436940
[16:33] <mhmo> Thanks cfhowlett , btw what do you suggest to me to learn the fundamentals of Linux so I can completely get rid of windows?
[16:33] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: time to swap the card for an intel model (which will likely work in that Lenovo) or get a nasty USB dongle, yes.
[16:34] <OneM_Industries> F***.
[16:34] <cfhowlett> mhmo, www.fullcirclemagzine.org/downloads   issue #0, read, issue #1, read
[16:34] <cfhowlett> !manual | mhmo or <<<
[16:34] <OneM_Industries> Next question, how to handle an annoyed grandma? ;)
[16:34] <LonelyDanbo> anyone know if this would be safe to try out on a different mouse? a CMStorm Recon mouse, to be precise.
[16:34] <LonelyDanbo> oops. forgot link. http://als.regnet.cz/logitech-g9-linux-led-color.html
[16:35] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, unless the mouse in nuclear powered, plug it in and test.
[16:35] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: tell her you apologise profusely for not doing adequate system research before buying her a system - oh and that it's ok because you don't need to force her into using Linux.
[16:36] <mhmo> Thanks a lot cfhowlett
[16:36] <cfhowlett> OneM_Industries, coupon for a lapdance at Chippendales?
[16:36] <cfhowlett> mhmo, happy2help!
[16:36] <OneM_Industries> Heh, I was kind of joking.
[16:36] <daftykins> i'm not :)
[16:37] <LonelyDanbo> oh wait, that's like... compiling a program off somebody's webpage. Isn't that risky?
[16:37] <OneM_Industries> I only found out what type of wifi device this thing has when using lspci/lsusb.
[16:38] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: yeah that's common
[16:38] <iooner> loa stfu
[16:38] <daftykins> !language iooner
[16:38] <daftykins> !language | iooner
[16:39] <hamma> Hello guys
[16:39] <OneM_Industries> Lenovo does not exactly love giving out info about it's systems, besides grudging CPU specs.
[16:39] <hamma> The StartUbuntu project is back
[16:39] <hamma> https://launchpad.net/~startubuntu
[16:40] <hamma> so take a look if you want
[16:40] <daftykins> hamma: this is a support channel, that's off topic - #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:41] <hamma> okay
[16:41] <OneM_Industries> Ah ha!
[16:42] <OneM_Industries> Found drivers!
[16:42] <loa> iooner, what is your problem?
[16:42] <loa> nevermind
[16:43] <daftykins> loa: take it out of the channel.
[16:43] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: oh? in what form?
[16:43] <loa> daftykins, i dunno him and i am done.
[16:43] <OneM_Industries> https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/commit/7f7e7dda33676ced293de477b03711199ffe5256
[16:43] <daftykins> yeah those are not drivers, haha
[16:44] <daftykins> i saw that before and didn't link it on purpose.
[16:44] <moritz7050> Hello
[16:44] <OneM_Industries> Firmware*
[16:44] <moritz7050> Lubuntu
[16:44] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: yep now you have to grab the module source and compile it most likely
[16:44] <daftykins> and people in that bug still said it didn't work
[16:44] <OneM_Industries> Fun.
[16:45] <moritz7050> yes
[16:45] <OneM_Industries> Well, might be time to get a wifi dongle.
[16:45] <OneM_Industries> How much could those cost at best buy anyway?
[16:45] <daftykins> a supported internal card would make more sense.
[16:46] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: it's very arrogant of you to think that we're all american.
[16:46] <OneM_Industries> I am not...
[16:46] <moritz7050> Cool
[16:46] <OneM_Industries> That was a joke.
[16:46] <daftykins> no it was not, you're backpedalling
[16:46] <daftykins> anyway try and remember we're from all around the world and do not know of prices in your local shops ;)
[16:47] <OneM_Industries> Based on Best Buy's policy of, "So, it should cost $5, let's sell it for $50!"
[16:47] <OneM_Industries> Seriously, it was a joke.
[16:47] <xangua> if you look for compatible linux hardware, check https://www.thinkpenguin.com/ and for ubuntu preinstalled https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed OneM_Industries
[16:48] <NTQ> My Lubuntu doesn't want to start. I got this error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567730/gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-ubuntu-vg-root-doesnt-exist
[16:49] <maja> i have gone though all the bluetooth setups and it still failes is there any way to tell what kind of chip i have and if this is working with ubuntu 14 ?
[16:50] <iooner> loa stop hl 4 nothing
[16:51] <iooner> daftykins please...
[16:51] <daftykins> !ops | iooner timewaster troll
[16:51] <k1l_> iooner: stop that drama.
[16:51] <iooner> Let start drama
[16:52] <herrkin> hi
[16:52] <maja> herrkin: hello
[16:52] <herrkin> I have a problem that is driving me crazy with ubuntu server, I installed a fresh  copy of it, updated everything and it worked fine
[16:52] <herrkin> but suddenly it disapears from the network
[16:53] <herrkin> I mean I cant reach it
[16:53] <thinkpad> i want to create a VPN in linux mint 17 can anyone help me out
[16:53] <herrkin> but it can go to internet and everyting fine
[16:53] <cfhowlett> !mint | thinkpad,
[16:54] <boze> daftykins: 2 computers and 2 tv's and 2 months later I figured out my resolution problem. Bad HDMI cable smh...
[16:55] <ecksii> Howdy
[16:55] <ecksii> I'm having an issue with lightdm on an mythbuntu 14.04 box.
[16:56] <ecksii> Google give me lots of noise but no light.
[16:56] <maja> boze: internal laugh :)
[16:58] <seek3r> I've started an aws ubuntu 14.04 instance, and have placed 'mkdir ~/hello' into rc.local, so that that command runs everytime my aws instance is stopped and started
[16:58] <seek3r> however, when I stop and start my aws instance, I don't see the hello folder
[16:58] <seek3r> how could I fix this?
[17:05] <daftykins> boze: don't recall the query from the past but wow, that wasn't your #1 check? :)
[17:06] <boze> daftykins: live and learn I guess. It worked enough for me not to question it, but not all hdmi are made equal. Different specs or something
[17:06] <daftykins> yep many many version numbers and what not
[17:13] <aash> chmod does not changing permissions
[17:13] <daftykins> aash: is this an NTFS volume? it won't work
[17:14] <aash> daftykins: how do i Check.
[17:15] <daftykins> well what are you working with? a flash drive? external hard disk?
[17:16] <Coldforge> Hello, I found a problem with the progress bar in epiphany, it seems it is the same as Ubuntu Software Center, so I think this bug is related somehow, but I am not sure how. It has probably been reported, but I can't find it.
[17:16] <aash> drive only
[17:16] <daftykins> "drive" ? that's too vague a reply.
[17:17] <aash> daftykins: /dev/sda5        64G   57G  7.6G  89% /media/lucky/Data
[17:17] <daftykins> aash: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[17:19] <ecksii> I'm looking for help debugging a lightdm login issue...
[17:19] <daftykins> what's the issue?
[17:20] <ecksii> lightdm loops back rather than logging me in... I've checked all the obvious things. .Xauthority is ok, /tmp is chmod 1777
[17:20] <aash> daftykins: https://bpaste.net/show/a05fd1b9e31b
[17:20] <ecksii> I've created a new user and that user cannot login either.
[17:20] <daftykins> ecksii: is every file and folder owned by you in ~/ for this user?
[17:20] <daftykins> ah ok so wider issue, oh dear.
[17:20] <ecksii> chown -R chris:chris ~chris
[17:20] <ecksii> yep.
[17:21] <daftykins> aash: so yes it's NTFS, you can't set permissions on that - you need to mount it in your /etc/fstab correctly to get permission to write to it.
[17:21] <ecksii> And my other user is newly minted from adduser.
[17:21] <daftykins> ugh you people need to *check* things not just blindly run commands that would reverse the condition *if* it were true :)
[17:21] <ecksii> I didn't just do that. I checked first.
[17:21] <daftykins> guess it's lightdm log time then
[17:22] <ecksii> It shows the X Server starting up then 40 seconds later shutting down.
[17:22] <ecksii> There's nothing in .xsession-errors wither.
[17:22] <ecksii> c/wither/either/
[17:23] <aash> daftykins: how to enter proper way
[17:23] <daftykins> aash: create an entry in /etc/fstab to mount /dev/sda5 at boot time
[17:24] <daftykins> ecksii: so what changed? is this happening after an upgrade?
[17:24] <daftykins> !pm
[17:25] <ecksii> Np
[17:25] <ecksii> Sorry about the /msg
[17:25] <daftykins> so, was it an upgrade?
[17:26] <ecksii> Yeah, I think so.
[17:26] <ecksii> It's mythbuntu box. And I'm really so frustrated with it that I'm about to junk it and restart from scratch.
[17:26] <daftykins> ah :S
[17:27] <daftykins> well you could purge and reinstall lightdm and whatever DE is on there
[17:27] <ecksii> Although I wish that debugging lightdm was as easy as debugging xdm.
[17:27] <daftykins> and hope for the best
[17:28] <theBestNunu> hello guys i have a problem. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on Windows 8 preinstalled machine using manual partitioning. I wanted dual boot. I boot in legacy mode. But now Ubuntu starts automatically, grub is not displayed so I cannot choose Windows. What can I do to have dual-boot? ;)
[17:28] <daftykins> if it came with windows 8, then 8 should not have been installed in legacy mode
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> theBestNunu: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> theBestNunu: http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[17:31] <ecksii> ukf*y em*y, this goes from bad to worse
[17:31] <ecksii> I really wish lightdm was a little more verbose about what it was doing. That's no on you guys though... :-)
[17:32] <theBestNunu> ActionParsnip: tnx, i will try boot-repair then ;)
[17:32] <daftykins> theBestNunu: are you certain your 8 install was legacy and not EFI?
[17:33] <theBestNunu> daftykins: I'm not certain it's OEM Windows 8.1. I assumed it was legacy beacause no systems starts in EFI mode, but Ubuntu starts in Legacy.
[17:33] <ecksii> apt-get remove won't delete lightdm. It says that it the daemon is running. sudo service lightdm stop says there is no service lightdm installled. And sudo kill -9 (lightdm pid) just restarts the daemon.
[17:34] <cfhowlett> ecksii, wait, what?  lightdm is pretty deeply integrated into ubuntu ... and you're removing it?
[17:35] <daftykins> ecksii: yep your install is hosed :)
[17:36] <theBestNunu> daftykins: does it mean that i installed ubuntu without EFI boot?
[17:36] <ecksii> I don't have to. But I'm stuck in a login loop when I try to use it. This is a mythbuntu box with my treasured recording on a seperate set of spindles. If I have to follow the disaster plan of rebuild mythbuntu and then reattach my records, I can.
[17:36] <daftykins> theBestNunu: you have to have installed both the same way is the thing.
[17:37] <theBestNunu> daftykins: Well it seems that Ubuntu is installed in Legacy mode. How do i specify what mode I want to install it in during installation?
[17:37] <ecksii> I'd love some advice but the perms on .Xauthority are correct, the perms on /tmp are correct, and I created a brand new user to se if pooched something in my .profile etc and the new user cannot login either.
[17:37] <ecksii> the lightdm log shows the X server starting. Then 40s later it shows the X server shutting down.
[17:38] <ecksii> service --status-all doesn't show lightdm running but kill -9 <lightdm-pid> just forces init or whatever to restart the process.
[17:39] <daftykins> theBestNunu: you have to boot the media (flash drive/DVD) in the correct mode, see...
[17:39] <daftykins> !efi | theBestNunu ... here
[17:39] <tgm4883> ecksii: perhaps a reboot is in order. If you've uninstalled it, it can't start on a fresh boot
[17:40] <moat_joe> How can I increase the maximum stack size for a script started via systemd (specifically postgres)?
[17:40] <ecksii> I think I'm quite close to "this box is f*ck up enough that nuke and reinstall is the best option?"
[17:40] <ecksii> I rebooted it.
[17:40] <theBestNunu> daftykins: yea my computer has some kind of mixed mode that it supports BIOS and EFI, so im not sure what mode it loads ubuntu. is there a way to check it?
[17:42] <daftykins> theBestNunu: my above link provided by ubottu answers that. the screen is different
[17:43] <ecksii> reboot helped. I got to console login.
[17:44] <ecksii> I'm reinstalling xubuntu-desktop now. curiously apt says that there is a hangup and that I have to install xubuntu-default-settings first.
[17:44] <misspapaya> running cat /dev/ttyUSB0 says the port is busy for the first minute after plugging in the adapter
[17:44] <misspapaya> after that it runs fine
[17:44] <misspapaya> lsof shows nothing
[17:45] <aldo_> ciao a tutti , buonasera
[17:45] <cfhowlett> !warez
[17:46] <linuxuz3r> hi how do i know what ubuntu release i am in
[17:46] <daftykins> lsb_release -d
[17:46] <daftykins> or: cat /etc/issue
[17:46] <linuxuz3r> how about the code name
[17:47] <daftykins> lsb_release -a ? :P
[17:47] <daftykins> you can work out the name from the number
[17:47] <theBestNunu> daftykins: so I need to have Ubuntu installed in EFI mode. Im pretty sure by now that i've installed it in Legacy mode. What's the easiest way to reinstall it in EFI mode? Run the installer again in EFI mode this time?
[17:47] <daftykins> theBestNunu: that same link tells you how to convert a legacy install to EFI... :)
[17:47] <GALAXY> hello
[17:48] <theBestNunu> daftykins: ok. ty and sry xD
[17:51] <ki7rw> why have i been getting this when upgrading software? this started happening within the last month: http://pastebin.com/0jNHaSuU
[17:51] <Tobbi> Is there a ppa for sdl2 for precise?
[17:52] <ki7rw> appens/me can't use synaptic or software-updater when that ha[
[17:52] <xangua> Tobbi: did you search at launchpad.net¿
[17:52] <Tobbi> let me see...
[17:52]  * ki7rw can't use synaptic or software-updater when that ha[
[17:52] <ecksii> Okay, so I'm still looking for help. I purged lightdm and reinstalled it. I still cannot log in with any user.
[17:53] <trism> ki7rw: did you install apt-listchanges? though I don't think it should mess with the gui clients
[17:53] <Tobbi> xangua: If I see correctly, there are snapshots... no official versions. I might go with these.
[17:54] <LonelyDanbo> I'm having trouble finding information/executables/etc to let me change mouse LED colors. I found one for a different mouse that I'm sure I would at least need to modify to get working with mine, but my brain isn't working so well.
[17:56] <LonelyDanbo> I found this one. Maybe I could modify it to tell me the ID of the mouse. http://als.regnet.cz/logitech-g9-linux-led-color.html
[17:57] <ki7rw> trism, yep, it's installed on my system
[17:58] <ki7rw> removed
[18:08] <unreal1999> hello
[18:08] <unreal1999> are there people online?
[18:08] <unreal1999> can someone pls help me
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> unreal1999  type /,ames to get an idea
[18:09] <lucas-arg> guys i need to install ubuntu in 20 pcs!! is there any software like remastersys so i can save some time in the proccess???
[18:09] <ansel> hi
[18:09] <unreal1999> i try to mount an iso but my terminal keeps giving the standard help text thing
[18:10] <unreal1999> sudo mount -t  iso9660 -o loop /home/mike/Downloads/Unreal Tournament - GOTY Edition/UT_GOTY_CD1.iso /mnt/iso/
[18:10] <unreal1999> im not native english
[18:10] <unreal1999> i just gives me the help thing
[18:11] <unreal1999> and my iso folder is still empty
[18:11] <unreal1999> i am fairly new to linux
[18:11] <unreal1999> please help
[18:11] <pradeep123> hello any one help me to how to setup pptp with internet access
[18:11] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: sudo mount -o loop "/home/mike/Downloads/Unreal Tournament - GOTY Edition/UT_GOTY_CD1.iso" /mnt/iso/
[18:11] <linuxholic> Hello, I have a prime laptop. I have installed nVidia-Prime so i can use the GPU i want and turn off the other one completely. I can easily play 4K videos with Intel HD GPU using VAAPI on VLC and mplayer. But i cannot use VDPAU on my nVidia. My GPU is 840M. Is it not supported? If i type "vainfo" in terminal it shows error.
[18:11] <pradeep123> i have enabled pptp vpn but not able to access net
[18:12] <linuxholic> pradeep123, are you trying to set VPN to access blocked websites?
[18:12] <pradeep123> no no i am trying to access one server
[18:12] <unreal1999> thanks Jordan_U
[18:12] <pradeep123> which i want to connect via vpn
[18:12] <unreal1999> it now says specify filetyp
[18:13] <ansel> hi
[18:13] <pradeep123> pptp but after that enabling i am not able to access net
[18:13] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Unless you put quotation marks around the entire argument, or escape each space by putting a backslash in front of it, any spaces in an argument (for any command) are interpreted as starting a new argument.
[18:13] <lucas-arg> !remastersys
[18:14] <linuxholic> pradeep123, have you enabled MPPE?
[18:14] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Please run the following command then pastebin its output (using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ): file "/home/mike/Downloads/Unreal Tournament - GOTY Edition/UT_GOTY_CD1.iso"
[18:15] <ansel> hi
[18:15] <ansel> i aam
[18:15] <pradeep123> linuxholic: no
[18:16] <linuxholic> pradeep123, you can enable it by going into advance settings...it won't make a difference i think but worth a try
[18:16] <linuxholic> ansel, just ask!
[18:16] <pradeep123> vpn connection is getting failed if i enble mppe
[18:16] <unreal1999>  it says no such directory
[18:17] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Please use my nick in your replies so that I don't miss them.
[18:17] <linuxholic> pradeep123, ok i am sorry i cannot help you further
[18:17] <linuxholic> Hello, I have a prime laptop. I have installed nVidia-Prime so i can use the GPU i want and turn off the other one completely. I can easily play 4K videos with Intel HD GPU using VAAPI on VLC and mplayer. But i cannot use VDPAU on my nVidia. My GPU is 840M. Is it not supported? If i type "vainfo" in terminal it shows error.
[18:17] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: What is the exact command you entered?
[18:18] <unreal1999> Jordan_U thanks i copied your text file "/home/mike/Downloads/Unreal Tournament - GOTY Edition/UT_GOTY_CD1.iso" and deleted the quotation marks
[18:19] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Don't delete the question marks.
[18:19] <ansel> hi
[18:20] <unreal1999> Jordan_U still the same error so such file or directory
[18:20] <ansel> what should i ask
[18:20] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Please post the exact command that you entered.
[18:20] <animalroam> Anybody have a good guide to get vsftpd working on a NAT server?
[18:21] <unreal1999> Jordan_U thanks root@irritantemike:/home/mike# file "/home/mike/Downloads/Unreal Tournament - GOTY Edition/UT_GOTY_CD1.iso"
[18:22] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Why are you running as root?
[18:22] <unreal1999> i have debian and i choosse root terminal
[18:22] <unreal1999> Jorda_U sorry thank
[18:22] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: This is #ubuntu. We only support Ubuntu here.
[18:23] <unreal1999> Jorda_U but should debian not be the same? i read somewhere that mount is not dependant on destribution
[18:23] <Jordan_U> unreal1999: Please join #debian or ##linux for Debian support, no exceptions.
[18:23] <rideh> if i disable ufw / iptables will i lose ssh access potentially?
[18:24] <rideh> looks like iptables is running on this box with a ton of rules abut ufw status reports disabled
[18:26] <AfterDarkness> hello is there a way to disable dimming unresponsive windows
[18:27] <syntroPi> xkill?
[18:28] <AfterDarkness> ?
[18:28] <AfterDarkness> talkin to me?
[18:28] <syntroPi> idk what you want to do but xkill enables you with a deadly mouse to kill unresponsive windows and their programs
[18:29] <AfterDarkness> I dont want that. the program even though it is nor responding to ubuntu it is doing what I want it to do
[18:29] <AfterDarkness> the dimming make it annoying as I can see what it's doing
[18:29] <AfterDarkness> cant*
[18:30] <wileee> !who
[18:31] <AfterDarkness> was talkin to syntroPi. soz
[18:32] <wileee> AfterDarkness, You are not making sense, stop and try doing that, if english is not you native language, there are channels for other.
[18:32] <Cyb3rn3t> hello
[18:32] <AfterDarkness> What are you talking about what part of my damn english doesn't suit you?
[18:33] <AfterDarkness> god damn it
[18:33] <wileee> AfterDarkness, Calm down, we have to understand you to help.
[18:33] <Cyb3rn3t> I am trying to debug my HW with ubuntu 15
[18:33] <Cyb3rn3t> I have Lenovo E535 laptop with ubuntu 14, later 15
[18:34] <Gallo_> you mean programs that seem to have stopped working, or are chugging away and not responding? stop them from going dim....... that i don't know. probably built into unity?
[18:34] <Cyb3rn3t> I have the same issue, sometimes the whole HW stop/freeze for 1-2 seconds...
[18:34] <Cyb3rn3t> (I have an old SSD in this latop)
[18:35] <AfterDarkness> Usually when an application doesn't respond it get dimmed right? This effect is annoying me as I am developing a program but I can't see the outcome since it was dimmed. I am talkin about the color
[18:35] <Cyb3rn3t> So my question,how can I debug, where to start, which programs? What I used htop,nmon,iotop
[18:35] <Cyb3rn3t> not the Dim
[18:35] <Cyb3rn3t> for example Firefox
[18:36] <Cyb3rn3t> I start typing a url in the header,
[18:36] <AfterDarkness> Cyb3rn3t, I wasn't talking to you. I have an issue of my own sorry for confusing you
[18:36] <NTQ> What can I do if my Lubuntu can not find /dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-root during boot? chrooted via Live CD /dev/mapper/* exist.
[18:36] <Cyb3rn3t> and it freeze for 1-2 seconds, an I can see what I typed. But a several seconds later everything what I typed appears
[18:36] <Cyb3rn3t> AfterDarkness: sorry buddy :D
[18:37] <joker_> hi
[18:37] <Jordan_U> NTQ: Is this a fresh install of Lubuntu?
[18:38] <pac_> I am having problems mounting to samba shares with fstab after updating to 15.04.. any ideas? I cant user parameter uid="shareUserName" anymore, any when I replace it with username="shareUserName" I dont get any write permission to the share
[18:38] <NTQ> Jordan_U: No. It was running a few weeks without restart.
[18:39] <NTQ> Jordan_U: Since then there were five new kernel versions installed but never restarted.
[18:39] <Jordan_U> NTQ: Can you boot successfully fromm an older kernel version?
[18:39] <wileee> AfterDarkness, It would be in the de code I would guess, you might try a simpler desktop without that config.
[18:40] <NTQ> Jordan_U: No, the first kernel was removed today within a chroot environment to free space in /boot.
[18:40] <AfterDarkness> wileee, nvm compizconfig have an option to disable it
[18:41] <wileee> AfterDarkness, Cool, good job figuring it out.
[18:42] <NTQ> Jordan_U: This is the error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567730/gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-ubuntu-vg-root-doesnt-exist | sed s/ubuntu/lubuntu/g
[18:42] <winsux> how do i repair an ext4 partition? fsck /dev/sda1 tells me e2fsck is outdated
[18:42] <Flemingjp> Ive just installed ubuntu as a second OS with windows, on the same drive as a seperate partition. When i reboot my computer it loads into grub and the only boot option for windows is the Windows Recovery Manager. Anyone know how i can fix it so i can boot into windows/
[18:44] <wileee> Flemingjp, try running sudo update-grub in the ubuntu terminal
[18:45] <NTQ> Jordan_U: I've already checked the points 1, 2, 4, 5 and 8 from the answers.
[18:45] <Flemingjp> wileee, Ive tried but it doesnt specify the new boot option being loaded.
[18:46] <wileee> Flemingjp, This a UEFI environment?
[18:46] <Jordan_U> winsux: What environment (distribution and version) are you running fsck from? Please pastebin the exact error message.
[18:51] <winsux1> Jordan_U: distro info and error messages:
[18:51] <winsux1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12110726/
[18:51] <winsux1> dmesg:
[18:51] <winsux1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12110697/
[18:51] <raj1> helo
[18:52] <erkan^> Who have same problem: You add an e-mail address in the field of LibreOffice Calc and saw you "bgcolor grey"?
[18:53] <winsux> winsux1 is my name on the machine with the bad drive (im typing om my laptop 'cuz the machine with the bad drive couldnt connect to the irc until now)
[18:56] <winsux> Jordan_U: on boot i got many kernel panics with smp errors (i got multiple kinds of smp errors). booting in recovery mode did the trick, but /dev/sda1 could not be mounted (see the dmesg paste)
[18:56] <kira> I have an error when I open google chrome is not executed , and when you want to open from a terminal tells me this: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/liboverlay-scrollbar.so : undefined symbol: ubuntu_gtk_set_use_overlay_scrollbar
[19:01] <GALAXY_NEPAL> hello
[19:02] <winsux> Jordan_U: mounting with thunar gives me this error: pastebin.ubuntu.com/12110844/
[19:04] <kira> I have an error when I open google chrome is not executed , and when you want to open from a terminal tells me this: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/liboverlay-scrollbar.so : undefined symbol: ubuntu_gtk_set_use_overlay_scrollbar?????please respond
[19:06] <winsux> Jordan_U: smartctl says that the default test passed, it reports the same for the second hard drive on the same machine
[19:07] <wileee> kira, What does this command show /etc/lsb-release
[19:07] <GALAXY_NEPAL> hello
[19:08] <Jordan_U> winsux: Try this guide but be *very* careful: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/fixing-partition-error-couldnt-mount.html Note that without "-n" mke2fs will *destroy the entire filesystem*, so again, be careful.
[19:08] <wileee> kira, sorry this one my mistake,  lsb_release -a
[19:08] <ecksii> Got the lightdm issue. After finding the script it's of course my own stupidity. My .profile is written against /bin/ksh and lightdm uses bash to run it.
[19:09] <winsux> Jordan_U: thanks for the link, i'm going to give mke2fs a try
[19:09] <GALAXY_NEPAL> where can i learn command lines?
[19:10] <Jordan_U> winsux: Essentially, what I would guess is happening is that your superblock has been corrupted in such a way that it still looks like a valid ext4 filesystem, but one of the feature bits (possibly one for a feature that doesn't even exist yet) was flipped making fsck think that it uses a new feature that fsck isn't aware of.
[19:11] <winsux> Jordan_U: i think it is weird that the 2 other partitions are listed ok (no errors) in gparted while sda1 (mounted as /) is bad
[19:12] <Jordan_U> !terminal | GALAXY_NEPAL
[19:14] <GALAXY_NEPAL> can we chat in private with the members ?
[19:14] <GALAXY_NEPAL> or only group chat here?
[19:14] <wileee> !pm
[19:14] <aton`> hi
[19:14] <samthewildone1> hello
[19:15] <GALAXY_NEPAL> hello
[19:15] <samthewildone1> this is so cool I'm using weechat !
[19:15] <winsux> Jordan_U: i'm getting a huge amount of negative numbers in the console. i don't know what that is supposed to mean
[19:15] <samthewildone1> lol this is so flippin cool !
[19:15] <GALAXY_NEPAL> yes i m too using weechat.. it is good
[19:15] <samthewildone1> brb
[19:15] <wileee> GALAXY_NEPAL, This is support not chat, however you might get a couple of responses, just be patient. No chat please
[19:16] <Jordan_U> winsux: I don't know what you mean, and paraphrasing error messages is rarely helpful. Please pastebin the exact output you're seeing.
[19:16] <GALAXY_NEPAL> ok
[19:16] <wileee> GALAXY_NEPAL, The is #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting though while you hang.
[19:17] <winsux> Jordan_U: the problem is the output is too much i can't scroll back to the beginning of the output and ^C doesn't kill the command either
[19:18] <Jordan_U> winsux: What is the exact command you ran?
[19:19] <aton`> anyone using ionic/cordova and can help me through the installation process? npm is freaking me out.
[19:19] <winsux> for i in 32768 98304 163840 229376 294912 819200 884736 1605632 2654208 4096000 7962624 11239424; do fsck -y -b $i /dev/sda1; done
[19:20] <winsux> Jordan_U: those numbers are the numbers that are listed when running mke2fs -n /dev/sda1 | tail -n1
[19:22] <winsux> Jordan_U: hmmm this is weird, mounting now works in thunar. i suppose fsck has corrected some blocks in the superblock, but i could see what it was doing
[19:23] <Jordan_U> winsux: Please run the the following command, which should give you a pastebin link: (set -x; for i in 32768 98304 163840 229376 294912 819200 884736 1605632 2654208 4096000 7962624 11239424; do sudo fsck -y -b $i /dev/sda1; done) 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:23] <winsux> Jordan_U: ( and ) are included in the command?
[19:23] <Jordan_U> winsux: Yes, but never mind that last command for now.
[19:24] <Jordan_U> winsux: If it's mounting now, then please unmount it and re-run fsck normally to confirm that the superblock is really repaired and there is no other damage that needs to be fixed.
[19:24] <Guest6364> ubuntu mate?
[19:25] <winsux> Jordan_U: rerun as in fsck /dev/sda1 or the command you pasted?
[19:25] <wileee> Guest6364, Your question?
[19:26] <Guest6364> conky?
[19:26] <petreb> hi
[19:27] <petreb> i use ubuntu which is besr after ubuntu
[19:27] <Jordan_U> winsux: Run "sudo fsck /dev/sda1 2>&1 | tee /tmp/fsck.log".
[19:27] <petreb> is free bsd ok
[19:27] <wileee> petreb, best?
[19:27] <wileee> petreb, NO polling.
[19:28] <petreb> any help
[19:28] <winsux> Jordan_U: i got this: e2fsck: need terminal for interactive repairs
[19:29] <wileee> !topic | petreb
[19:29] <petreb> ok
[19:30] <Jordan_U> winsux: Then just run "sudo fsck /dev/sda1".
[19:31] <n_silk01> exit
[19:31] <winsux> Jordan_U: i tried this "fsck -y /dev/sda1 2>&1 | tee /tmp/fsck.log". i get the exact same behavior; i.e. i get lots of negative numbers and the screen is scrolling really fast. oh now i'm getting a report with more info. i'm going to paste it in a moment
[19:32] <winsux> Jordan_U: oops it's 26.2MB. this will take sometime to paste
[19:33] <Jordan_U> winsux: Do you have backups of all of the important data on this filesystem?
[19:34] <rednaw> hi all, how can you see from what source apt installs the package when you execute `apt-get install <package-name>`?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> rednaw: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:34] <winsux> Jordan_U: my administration and most important files are backup'd. most games aren't yet backup'd
[19:37] <Halelujah> Hi. My sound is gone again. :/ what to do?
[19:38] <Proksima> Upstart question: I have a script that dynamically populate fstab. Is "start on starting mountall" the right anchor if I want it to complete before mountall starts?
[19:38] <rednaw> Jordan_U: thanks!
[19:39] <Jordan_U> rednaw: You're welcome :)
[19:40] <winsux> Jordan_U: i am not sure whether the problem has been fixed. the drive mounts correctly and all data seems to be intact
[19:40] <winsux> Jordan_U: i can try to reboot the machine and see if the kernel panics and mount errors have been resolved
[19:41] <Halelujah> gatis@pc:~$ pulseaudio
[19:41] <Halelujah> E: [pulseaudio] module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
[19:41] <Halelujah> E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="0" name="pci-0000_00_14.2" card_name="alsa_card.pci-0000_00_14.2" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
[19:41] <xSolidState> hi guys! I am trying to sync files between devices with dynamic IPs, without using dynamicDNS services or the cloud. Any hints? I seem  to recall a project working on a "cloudless" software suite where the devices kept track of each others IPs and so on, but I dont remember the name.
[19:41] <Jordan_U> Proksima: I don't think that alone will ensure that it *completes* before mountall starts, but I'm not very familiar with upstart.
[19:42] <Jordan_U> winsux: No.
[19:43] <Proksima> I see... I will make my script run before upstart and see if that works :o
[19:43] <Jordan_U> winsux: Right now, mount the filesystem read-only and backup any data that you care about. It's not a good sign when fsck spits out tons of errors.
[19:44] <winsux> Jordan_U: yeah you are right. i'm going to backup the files then. this may take a while
[19:45] <Gallo_> xSolidState: i would suggest that you have them both connect to a 3rd device with a static IP. i might try to implement a virtual private network or something. but i have no idea how to do that, as i've not crossed this bridge yet
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Proksima: See the second (accepted) answer here for an idea of how you might ensure that the fstab has been created before mountall has run: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21378/how-can-i-make-sure-one-upstart-job-starts-before-other-upstart-jobs Why are you generating an fstab at boot though? What is your end goal?
[19:46] <xSolidState> Gallo_, well I only have dynamic IPs available. If I had a server or something with a static IP I could just have the dynamic IP devices access that one periodically, no need to get them in contact at all then.
[19:46] <Halelujah> anyone can help me to fix sound?
[19:47] <Gallo_> xSolidState: perhaps you can control a private network when these two devices are in proximity? like... over wifi when a phone is at home
[19:48] <Gallo_> xSolidState: you might enjoy a static ip at aws for free for 1 year. otherwise, cheap servers are an option. i'm not sure what else to tell you. somehow you need to connect to these devices by finding out their IP
[19:49] <dmdmdm> can somebody write me a private message? i want to try my options of the message indicator
[19:49] <xSolidState> Gallo_, well I could build a script or something that checks the machines IP and notifies the other ones. So unless all devices change WAN IPs at the same time, the connections could be reestablished.
[19:50] <dmdmdm> thx it works. :)
[19:50] <xSolidState> But I am trying to avoid this, because I am fairly sure this already exists, but I just cant find it in my googling endeavours
[19:50] <Gallo_> it could work
[19:50] <Gallo_> but yes... can break when all of them change wans at the same time
[19:51] <Gallo_> so... if you don't need this feature during a zombie apocolypse where the power resets globally and comes back in patches... go for it
[19:52] <xSolidState> Haha Gallo_ :D If only I could remember the name of the software that already did this. :P
[19:52] <Gallo_> maybe search sourceforge?
[19:53] <xSolidState> Gallo_, I am going to, but it was a fairly new project, kickstarted I think, they were doing a whole suite of stuff in the wake of the NSA scandal
[19:53] <xSolidState> So I figured i'd ask first
[19:53] <Halelujah> hey I need HELP
[19:53] <Gallo_> oh. in that case search slashdot. they had tons f stories about which were good and which were bad 0o
[19:54] <Gallo_> !ask | Halelujah
[19:54] <xSolidState> Gallo_, good idea, thanks mate
[19:54] <winsux> Jordan_U: i backup'd all my important data
[19:54] <hydrian> Ello ALl
[19:55] <Halelujah> I have no sound
[19:55] <Halelujah> i have been battling with this issue for days
[19:55] <Halelujah> Lubuntu wont load up drivers for sound card
[19:55] <hydrian> I've got an issue. For some reason samba is launching a boot as 'smb -F' which makes no sense and it in the foreground at boot.
[19:56] <flexus> Halelujah, which soundcard? does it show up in kernel log?
[19:56] <hydrian> I' looked at the init script and it says it should be executing as '-D'.
[19:57] <Jordan_U> winsux: Please post the first 100 or so lines of the fsck log from earlier.
[19:57] <hydrian> And when I kill smbd it just respawns under a new PID
[19:57] <bekks> hydrian: So stop the service instead.
[19:57] <hydrian> bekks: I do
[19:58] <bekks> hydrian: No, you are trying to kill processes instead.
[19:58] <winsux> Jordan_U: pastebin.ubuntu.com/12111333/
[19:59] <hydrian> bekks: I stop the service and then kill it.
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> hydrian  try  sudo service smbd stop
[19:59] <hydrian> It keeps respawning under another PID.
[20:00] <hydrian> MonkeyDust: I've already done that, multiple times.
[20:00] <mtra> my grandpa is in hospital and am going to visit a family , is there any way i can keep my laptop in his room and remotely connect to it , to keep him updated ,with the family meeting , please help how to setup my ubuntu laptop so i can connect to it later and talk to my granpa  ??
[20:01] <Jordan_U> winsux: Did you let fsck run to completion?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> mtra  a laptop with all the wifi radiation etc in a hospital?
[20:01] <OerHeks> mtra install skype, pidgin or any instant messaging service?
[20:01] <winsux> Jordan_U: yes i did, this paste contains the first 100 lines
[20:01] <hydrian> I also verified that the PID id in the PID file is not correct either. So it seems the service is losing track of the pid.
[20:01] <Jordan_U> winsux: Please post the last 100 now.
[20:02] <royiv_> Hi #ubuntu; does anyone here know if the AAAA record for ntp.ubuntu.com was added this last weekened, and prior to that, ntp.ubuntu.com only had A records?
[20:02] <seyt> Arch linux Will win
[20:03] <winsux> Jordan_U: the last line is about 26MB, do you really want me to paste that line? it starts with
[20:03] <winsux> Inode bitmap differences:  -(163841--163842) __numbers_here_till_EOL__
[20:04] <hydrian> royiv_: dig ntp.ubuntu.com AAAA
[20:04] <pbx> winsux, not sure there's a pastebin that will take a 26mb paste anyway :)
[20:04] <hydrian> royiv_: Run that command.
[20:04] <Jordan_U> winsux: No, that's good enough :)
[20:04] <royiv_> hydrian: dig, AFAIK, doesn't say when the record came into existence.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> mtra: Would your grandfather be able to answer a skype call?
[20:05] <mtra> note : my grandpa can't use skype or pidgin , and i only want the  laptop to run for 15 hours , I already know how to configure ubuntu to shutdown after a period of time  , but how can i connect to the laptop remotely using and talk to my grandpa of course and show him the familiy and all ??
[20:05] <hydrian> royiv_: I'm getting 1 response. So there may be something in the middle filtering the AAAA records
[20:05] <royiv_> I know the AAAA exists, I'm looking to know if it was created over the past weekend. (I believe it to be the root cause of a production indicident where I work; I'm not implying the record is bad or wrong.)
[20:06] <Jordan_U> mtra: Could one of his nurses answer skype for him?
[20:06] <hydrian> royiv_: I'm getting this response: ntp.ubuntu.com.		382	IN	AAAA	2001:67c:1560:8003::c7
[20:06] <mtra> sorry for ùy english
[20:07] <Halelujah> hi, how can i check what audio driver does my sound card using now?
[20:07] <rednaw> ihey guys, I just added the node.js sources to my sources.list.d/ dir and dit `apt-get update` and stuff, but `apt-cache policy nodejs` still shows http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ as a source , anyone know why I'm not getting the node source I added?
[20:08] <royiv_> hydrian: I get the same response. :) If I go back in time to last Friday, would I get that response?
[20:08] <winsux> Jordan_U: oops, i see i am mistaken, the very long lines are somewhere in the middle. my text editor just couldn't handle 26MB of text. i am going to paste it on pastebin without those very long lines
[20:08] <Pici> royiv_: You could ask in #canonical-sysadmin, but get ready to wait a while for a response.
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Halelujah: lspci -k
[20:08] <hydrian> royiv_: Don't know
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Halelujah: That will list all of your pci devices, and which kernel module is being used for each.
[20:09] <winsux> Jordan_U: here it is: pastebin.ubuntu.com/12111453/
[20:09] <Halelujah> how can i unmute sound in alsamixer?
[20:09] <royiv_> Pici: Ah, thanks. I knew this would be a difficult query for such a broad channel as this; I'll try there…
[20:09] <Jordan_U> winsux: I highly recommend using less, head, and tail for this type of thing.
[20:09] <hydrian> royiv_: You'd have to see if the authortative records have anything to point to a time.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Halelujah  hit m to un/mute
[20:10] <dienachteule> h
[20:10] <Jordan_U> winsux: OK, it looks like it completed successfully. Do you get similar output if you run fsck -y again?
[20:11] <winsux> Jordan_U: i use less head and tail all the time but i forgot i should have used those :p i'm waiting for the fsck -y output but it seems to be similar
[20:11] <Halelujah> MonkeyDust ah ok
[20:12] <Halelujah> i found out my sound card uses snd_hda_intel module
[20:12] <Jordan_U> rednaw: Does the node.js source you added have a newer nodejs package? Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update".
[20:12] <Halelujah> so i purged and reinstall alsa stuff and after reboot i got sound back
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> Halelujah  you've been struggling for some time now... is it solved,
[20:12] <Halelujah> yes
[20:12] <Halelujah> i have sound now
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> Halelujah  great, breaking and fixing things is the best way to learn
[20:13] <winsux> Jordan_U: in one command you pasted you piped the command to pastebinit, does this command automagically create a paste on pastebin? because i didnt know how to do that i ctrlC+ctrlV'd in a text editor but that was very clunky
[20:13] <Halelujah> MonkeyDust are there hotkeys for sound volume?
[20:13] <herrkin> hi
[20:13] <herrkin> I was installing postgresql
[20:14] <winsux> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1: clean, 322707/9543680 files, 10430783/38173696 blocks
[20:14] <herrkin> I edited vipw so postgresql has access to bash, then now I cant use sudo
[20:14] <winsux> Jordan_U: looks like fsck fixed the blocks in the superblock
[20:14] <Jordan_U> !pastebinit | winsux Indeed :)
[20:14] <herrkin> everytime I do sudo xxxx it says sudo unrecognized user root
[20:14] <herrkin> is there a way to fix it?
[20:14] <Halelujah> Are there hotkeys to change sound volume?
[20:15] <xSolidState> Halelujah, you can certainly bind keys for that
[20:15] <rednaw> Jordan_U: apt-get update output: http://pastebin.com/CQzPqRkx
[20:15] <boze> ya know when ya boot it has the Ubuntu splash screen with the dots? isn't there a way to disable that so you just seen the text scrolling?
[20:15] <Halelujah> xSolidState ok so there arent by default
[20:15] <Jordan_U> boze: Remove the "quiet" and "splash" kernel parameters.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> boze  try F12 while you see that screen
[20:16] <Halelujah> Can i bind keys trough terminal?
[20:16] <xSolidState> Halelujah, there might be, I am on xubuntu right now. On a laptop, the hardware keys generally work quite well nowadays
[20:16] <akik> boze: edit your /etc/default/grub and run update-grub2 after that
[20:16] <rednaw> herrkin: is there a root user in /etc/passwd ?
[20:16] <winsux> Jordan_U: gparted now correctly recognizes the repaired partition. i can try to reboot the machine and see if the mount errors and kernel panics are gone
[20:17] <herrkin> no, I didnt configure it
[20:17] <akik> boze: also GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub
[20:17] <Jordan_U> winsux: OK, sounds good. I would regularly check both fsck and S.M.A.R.T. but you're probably going to be fine from here on out :)
[20:17] <winsux> Jordan_U: maybe it is best to replace the drive now i backup'd all data, the drive has over 36000 uptime hours, the other drive has 46000 hours O_O
[20:18] <winsux> Jordan_U: those stats are from smartctl
[20:18] <Jordan_U> akik: boze: GRUB_TERMINAL=console shouldn't be needed for most hardware (though it also shouldn't hurt unless you want non-ASCII characters in your boot menu).
[20:18] <omrikap> hi, how can I change the mount point of a partition?
[20:19] <k1l_> omrikap: how did you mount it?
[20:19] <aaomidi> Hey uh guys, how would I install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ddccontrol/ on ubuntu 15.04
[20:19] <akik> Jordan_U: i remember that if i don't set GRUB_TERMINAL=console, the first messages get lost
[20:20] <omrikap> it's a usb partition. If I'm using gParted, I unmount it, and than I don't know how to change the mountpoint
[20:20] <proq> does anyone know if ubuntu has multi-peer functionality yet? (ability to connect two machines directly to each other with their wifi radios with no wifi router)
[20:21] <proq> or if android's wifi direct has been ported to ubuntu
[20:21] <rednaw> Jordan_U: In my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nodesource.list file is deb-src https://deb.nodesource.com/node_0.12 vivid main
[20:21] <Jordan_U> akik: That's likely because on your particular hardware linux's vesafb doesn't work properly, and so you don't get a working tty until KMS kicks in. That's not the case for most hardware.
[20:21] <k1l_> aaomidi: need to compile that yourself, because there is not even a PPA for vivid for that
[20:21] <OerHeks> aaomidi, that package is only available for the nest versio 15.10 .. build it yourself ?
[20:21] <boze> I've tinkered with my work computer too much. I have to manually start mysql after booting and I always get lots of ^X^X^X^X getting out put randomly in the command line
[20:21] <aaomidi> OerHeks: thats basically my question, how would I build it?
[20:22] <omrikap> sorry, a basic question: I can set a mountpoint for a partition, right? Like a kind of a label. Something that you can see even if it's not mounted. Right?
[20:22] <OerHeks> !build
[20:22] <OerHeks> nice howto
[20:22] <dk_> Hello
[20:22] <k1l_> omrikap: no
[20:22] <aaomidi> ty
[20:22] <k1l_> omrikap: well, you can make udev rules or a fstab entry. or just mount it manually
[20:23] <winsux> Jordan_U: thanks for your help. i have learned some new nice commands in ubuntu ;). i'm going to reboot the machine and see if everything keeps working.
[20:23] <Ryans_255> how can encrypts archive header with zip tool
[20:23] <omrikap> k1l_: thanks. so when i choose "something else" on ubuntu install, and have the option to choose mount point, what exactely am i changing?
[20:23] <syntroPi> omrikap, or you just leave it where its now and symlink to it?
[20:24] <Jordan_U> winsux: You're welcome :)
[20:24] <k1l_> omrikap: wait, you are mixing general mounting with installing?
[20:24] <omrikap> yes :)
[20:24] <k1l_> omrikap: so what is it exactly what you want to do?
[20:25] <monsune> does iscsi make sense over internet? or is it meant to be ethernet only? looking for a solution that is better than nfs
[20:25] <OerHeks> aaomidi, it is an old project, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ddccontrol/files/ddccontrol/ not sure why it is in Wily now.
[20:25] <xSolidState> omrikap, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Systemwide_Mounts  not sure what you're after but this might help. IIRC I followed this, and now i have a permanent mountpoint for a certain partition. you can unmount but it auto mounts to there
[20:25] <bekks> monsune: No, neither iscsi nor NFS make sense in that case.
[20:25] <winsux> Jordan_U: rebooting the machine worked perfectly! thanks again for your help :)
[20:25] <monsune> bekks do you have a solution for me?
[20:25] <omrikap> xSolidState: thanks, I'll take a look and be back here soon
[20:25] <bekks> monsune: You didnt state an issue yet.
[20:25] <monsune> i really need a reliable way of connecting a drive over network
[20:26] <akik> omrikap: it can be used to have separate partitions for your directories
[20:26] <Jordan_U> winsux: You're welcome :)
[20:26] <bekks> monsune: Connecting over which network?
[20:26] <xSolidState> omrikap, thats not for setting mountpoints while installing though, thats for permanently mounting storage partitions/harddrives
[20:26] <monsune> bekks ip network
[20:26] <bekks> monsune: which ip network? The internet? Some network at your office? Some network at home?
[20:26] <monsune> bekks ok.. it's not a local network, internet
[20:27] <bekks> monsune: Setup a VPN, and use NFS.
[20:27] <akik> monsune: you might try sshfs
[20:27] <aaomidi> 0erHeks, I need it :( IDK why its dead
[20:27] <aaomidi> Do you know any alternative
[20:27] <aaomidi> for DDC/CI monitor control
[20:27] <monsune> bekks, akik: i do like both ideas
[20:27] <Ryans_255> how can encrypts archive header with zip tool?
[20:27] <syntroPi> hmm is vpn still to be considered secure nowerdays?
[20:27] <monsune> it's just that i have never tried vpn on my own and same with sshfs :)
[20:28] <bekks> monsune: Why do you need to actually mount something, why isnt scp or rsync sufficient?
[20:28] <OerHeks> aaomidi, if your monitor is in the list of supported devices, go for it
[20:28] <aaomidi> OerHeks: ^ Sorry wrong tag
[20:28] <xSolidState> syntroPi, there was something about security flaws in the news lately, wasnt there? Happen to have a link?
[20:28] <aaomidi> Oops
[20:28] <aaomidi> Yeah
[20:28] <aaomidi> However i'm getting this :/
[20:28] <monsune> bekks there will be quite huge amounts of data appearing on that drive and it needs to be processed by software installed on another box
[20:29] <aaomidi> configure: error: PCI utils headers not found, please install pci-utils. And its already installed
[20:29] <k1l_> syntroPi: that discussion is more something for the offtopic :)
[20:29] <hydrian> aaomidi: did you install the dev package for pci-utils
[20:29] <bekks> monsune: So transfer the data regularly, using rsync, e.g.
[20:29] <Ryans_255> all of you guys busy to take my question?
[20:29] <aaomidi> Oh, wasn't recommended by apt-get sorry :P
[20:29] <syntroPi> xSolidState, well all the three-letter-agencies slides suggest some parts of vpn seem to be quite broken nowerdays, but it really is a bit offtopic i admit
[20:30] <omrikap> xSolidState, k1l_: not sure it's what i'm looking for. i have a problem with UEFI. I did a full install on a USB stick, and want to make it bootable. It has a UEFI partition, but it is not being discovered by UEFI.
[20:30] <monsune> bekks but the thing is that i would need to rsync just to send them somewhere else again soon
[20:30] <bekks> monsune: you would have to do that, in either case.
[20:30] <xSolidState> syntroPi, I recall something about this, but i thought if we could provide a link, it might be relevant.
[20:30] <monsune> bekks so i just thought that mounting the remote fs would be more efficient and less scripting and fault tolerance
[20:30] <hydrian> aaomidi: Anytime your compiling, you need the *-dev packages...
[20:31] <bekks> monsune: Mounting isnt that fault tolerant or efficient.
[20:31] <OerHeks> !find pciutils
[20:31] <aaomidi> Yeah assumed so :P
[20:31] <OerHeks> aaomidi, libpci-dev i guess
[20:31] <monsune> bekks well i now i seem to realise that :) no bullet proof methods of doing so
[20:31] <aaomidi> Woot configure finished.
[20:31] <xSolidState> omrikap, ok thats a completely different issue. What do you mean by "not discovered by UEFI"? Can you open the boot device selection menu on your device and select the usb-stick?
[20:31] <monsune> bekks i was really hoping the iscsi is what i wanted
[20:31] <akik> monsune: try it, test it, if it works, use it
[20:31] <syntroPi> monsune, you even can open nautilus, ctrl + l , enter ssh://user@host/path/to/file for some quick gui copy
[20:32] <bekks> monsune: iscsi over internet or over vpn? you dont want it. you dont. dont.
[20:32] <bekks> monsune: Just use rsync :)
[20:32] <monsune> bekks over whatever that would be reliable
[20:32] <hydrian> monsune: iSCSI over the internet is a recipe for restless nights.
[20:33] <akik> bekks: the benefit of mounting is that you can use any local tool to access the remote data
[20:33] <monsune> bekks it's not that easy, if it was only about syncing i wouldn't break my head :) it's not too easy to explain the whole concept too
[20:33] <bekks> monsune: Since you cannot guarantee the reliability of the "internet", there is no bullet proof method.
[20:33] <monsune> akik that's it...
[20:33] <monsune> it's not just about transferring data
[20:33] <omrikap> xSolidState, k1l_: it can boot from usb. live usb works. a thing I have noticed is that a live usb, that do mount on my system, is mounting to /cdrom.
[20:33] <monsune> i need to work on them too
[20:33] <bekks> monsune: After syncing the data, you can work with all local tools.
[20:33] <bekks> You dont need to mount something for doing so.
[20:33] <ecksii> Thanks for the help guys!!
[20:33] <monsune> hydrian i will keep your word for that and i forget iscsi :)
[20:34]  * monsune thinks that 2 guys can't be wrong
[20:34] <xSolidState> omrikap, ok sorry I misunderstood. So your full installation onto USB does not boot right? I dont think that has anything to do with the mount directory of the liveUSB.
[20:35] <syntroPi> monsune, maybe you could harden ssh (https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html) and use sshfs?
[20:35] <monsune> bekks well if there is nothing reliable as for remote mount i will rather find another set of solutions then and rethink whole concept :)
[20:35] <monsune> in fact even a small network outage could be a disaster so would be a broken ssh session for sshfs, etc.
[20:35] <monsune> i can't rely on such stuff
[20:36] <syntroPi> well if its over network anything will fail if the underlying network is not reliable?
[20:37] <monsune> syntroPi i will read on that just to learn new stuff but not sure if i can use that, perhaps worth at least some test though
[20:37] <aaomidi> http://pastebin.com/4uNvdxix This isn't a good sign is it hydrian OerHeks
[20:37] <syntroPi> monsune, if its not about realtime access but more about backup/sync id consider rsync over ssh, or even something like duplicity
[20:37] <bekks> monsune: So eliminate the "internet" between your hosts. :)
[20:37] <monsune> syntroPi the network is pretty reliable but still bekks made me realise that i got the whole thing wrong...
[20:38] <omrikap> xSolidState: sorry for the confusing asking. Let's start over: I have a live usb of Ubuntu. Boot fine. After that, I made a full install on another USB. This one does not even being recognized. It was in stalled with the default installer, with GPT and has EFI partition of 500 MB (the installation default). What could be the reason for it not to be recognized?
[20:38] <monsune> syntroPi indeed
[20:38] <monsune> bekks no option for that sadly
[20:39] <Jordan_U> omrikap: Are you trying to boot the USB drive from the same computer you installed from?
[20:39] <hydrian> aaomidi: Yea.. unless that's a dependancy that was missed, that's a hard one to fix.
[20:39] <k1l_> omrikap: uefi not accepting removable usbs as installing devices? i know some bios have issues with it
[20:39] <aaomidi> :/
[20:39] <xSolidState> omrikap, when you say the full install USB is not recognized, do you mean, even if you open the boot device selector, you cant see it, or do you see it but it does not boot?
[20:39] <bekks> monsune: Then you have to face the situation and choose the less worse option - syncing, instead of mounting. :)
[20:40] <xSolidState> boot device selector = pressing F8 or something at boot
[20:40] <omrikap> xSolidState: no. I made it on a virtual machine on another computer. And I can not see it as an option in the boot menu. The live USB get an option in the list.
[20:42] <omrikap> k1l_: UEFI should except usbs. That's why I don't understand this behavior (which have to be something that i'm doing wrong..).
[20:43] <AxisPro> hey guys
[20:43] <xSolidState> omrikap, did the virtual machine have any hard drives installed? the ubuntu installer might have put the bootloader on there. Try to remove any virtual storage from the VM and reinstall, this _might_ fix it.
[20:43] <AxisPro> helllooo
[20:43] <OerHeks> k1l_, omrikap , maybe fastboot is still enabled? that could prevent usb booting..
[20:43] <AxisPro> who from US?
[20:44] <AxisPro> hello
[20:44] <xSolidState> !ask | AxisPro
[20:44] <AxisPro> so this is private chat?
[20:44] <xSolidState> AxisPro, this is not for off-topic discussion, people get annoyed when you do that here :)
[20:44] <OerHeks> AxisPro, location is not an issue here, in Ubuntu support.
[20:44] <omrikap> xSolidState: no. It didn't. It had only cd and usb
[20:45] <k1l_> AxisPro: this is the official public ubuntu technical support chat.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> AxisPro  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic if you want nice social chat
[20:45] <AxisPro> oh, then sorry by this
[20:45] <omrikap> OerHeks: maybe fastboot is on. What is it exactely?
[20:46] <AxisPro> hey, who can help me?
[20:46] <k1l_> !details | AxisPro
[20:46] <xSolidState> !ask | AxisPro
[20:47] <OerHeks> omrikap, all explained here http://askubuntu.com/questions/452071/why-disable-fast-boot-on-windows-8-when-having-dual-booting to boot faster, by disabling some service 'you don't need'
[20:47] <xSolidState> omrikap, it might also be a secureboot issue
[20:47] <OerHeks> not secureboot, fastboot.
[20:48] <omrikap> xSolidState, OerHeks: secureboot is disabled
[20:48] <Superdawg> Has anyone configured kdump on 15.04?  I'm having trouble with it.  I've got kexec-tools, kdump-tools installed.  I have set the crashkernel param on the boot cmdline (verified by /proc/cmdline), and also set USE_KDUMP=1 in /etc/default/kdump-tools.  When I cat /sys/kernel/kexec_loaded, I get 0.  If I try to load it by using kexec -l <kernel> --initrd=<initrd> --command-line=$(cat /proc/cmdline), and then crash the box with an
[20:48] <AxisPro> what u guys things about *indows10?
[20:48] <Superdawg> I'm afraid that I don't have one of the required services loading, but for the life of me I can't find a service that might apply
[20:49] <OerHeks> AxisPro, please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks.
[20:49] <xSolidState> AxisPro, what are you doing? we told you this channel is for actual support only. If you want to talk about such things, go to another channel.
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> AxisPro  you're in the wrong channel
[20:50] <raim> you
[20:50] <Superdawg> oh, and once I do the 'kexec -l' operation, /sys/kernel/kexec_loaded returns 1
[20:51] <Superdawg> sysctl kernel.panic_on_oops = 1 as well.
[20:52] <Superdawg> which shouldn't matter in this case, but it's out there.
[20:52] <omrikap> OerHeks: but if it is fastboot, why does the live USB work?
[20:52] <OerHeks> omrikap, then it is not an fastboot issue.
[20:53] <OerHeks> i understood the usb does not work at all
[20:54] <omrikap> OerHeks: ok. so things are like this: live usb installed on another ubuntu machine, works fine. Full install does not get on the boot list.
[20:54] <xSolidState> omrikap, this really is quite odd. You probably already did that but you might want to toy around with gparted, set the partitions to bootable manually. Is the live USB stick the same device as the installed version? if not, try it on the same one
[20:55] <OerHeks> omrikap, check your vendor if there is an update for UEFI.
[20:56] <omrikap> xSolidState: both are SanDisk Cruiser Fit. I tried to gPart the USB myself, and same result. I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong. I just cant tell what...
[20:57] <omrikap> OerHeks: I will.
[20:57] <Jordan_U> omrikap: Installing for UEFI for a removable drive requires extra setup.
[20:57] <wileee> omrikap, The install at the top of the grub menu has grub control, run a update-grub in it.
[20:58] <omrikap> Jordan_U: what is the extra setup needed?
[20:58] <SolarNRG> my screen keeps going dark every 15 minutes when watching movies and I have to wiggle the mouse to wake it up, how can I stop this?
[20:58] <omrikap> Jordan_U: and why? I want to understand that more than everything
[20:59] <Jordan_U> omrikap: k1l_: xSolidState: To make a drive UEFI bootable on any machine, rather than only on the machine on which you ran grub-install, you need to run "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --removable".
[20:59] <syntroPi> SolarNRG, go in system settings power options and disable screen saver/lock?
[20:59] <SolarNRG> i already got it set to dont suspend never any ideas?
[20:59] <omrikap> Jordan_U: good to know. why does this matter?
[21:00] <Jordan_U> omrikap: If you're not booted into said installation then you will need to either chroot in before running grub-install or pass the appropriate --boot-directory and --efi-directory arguments to grub-install. Either way, you will need to ensure that all partitions are appropriately mounted.
[21:00] <omrikap> Jordan_U: how does uefi know where isntallation took place?
[21:00] <dingoz> hi
[21:01] <dingoz> anyone here know about aircrack
[21:01] <dingoz> ?
[21:01] <k1l_> dingoz: its not in the focus of this channel
[21:01] <ikonia> such as ?
[21:01] <dingoz> i get an error
[21:02] <Jordan_U> omrikap: UEFI has Non Volatile RAM (NVRAM) where boot entries are stored in the firmware itself (not on disk). These entries tell the firmware where to find grub. There is also a default location that UEFI systems know to look for a bootloader if there is no boot entry, /EFI/BOOTX64.efi , but that location isn't used by default as then you might be clobbering another OS's bootloader.
[21:03] <SolarNRG> dingoz I used aircrack-ng ages ago and believe me you won't crack wpa2 not even with chop chop nowadays, even the reaver wps exploit is covered up ur wasting ur time unless u can find a new exploit
[21:03] <SolarNRG> besides u should be asking on the #kali-live room
[21:03] <omrikap> Jordan_U: Thanks! so how can i modify grub-install in a default Ubuntu install?
[21:04] <SolarNRG> Jordan_U is the UEFI where the creepy SMM and hypervisor is stored?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> omrikap: I wouldn't recommend trying to modify grub-install, just manually run "sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --removable" any time there is a grub update.
[21:05] <syntroPi> omrikap, if you want to change uefi settings you might want to take a look at "efibootmgr"
[21:05] <Jordan_U> SolarNRG: No, you can have SMM with BIOS as well.
[21:05] <SolarNRG> yeah I heard smm's been around since pentium pro
[21:05] <syntroPi> omrikap, but be a bit carefull with that
[21:06] <SolarNRG> "processor police"
[21:09] <omrikap> syntroPi: Yes. I try to do every change on a VM on another computer. This is why I have that much trouble I guess.. efibootmanager can't help me if i'm doing this on another machine, right?
[21:09] <alex_1809> hello
[21:11] <TheEagerPadawan> Hi is there a good replacement for vlc because it seems to have some audio issues from time to time on my machine
[21:11] <syntroPi> omrikap, hmm it sets the efi boot options on the machine you launch efibootmanager
[21:11] <Halelujah> TheEagerPadawan its not vlc issue
[21:11] <syntroPi> e.g. edit the nvram
[21:12] <bennypr0fane> If you think about sharing stuff between two Linux pcs on the same network, what's your first idea? Is SMB your got-to solution, or would you maybe use something else if there's no Windows involved?
[21:13] <TheEagerPadawan> halelujah: codec issue
[21:13] <omrikap> Jordan_U: what is gtub update? you mean another version of grub?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> omrikap: Essentially any time the package grub-common is updated.
[21:15] <akik> bennypr0fane: samba or nfs
[21:16] <mwargh> hi
[21:20] <omrikap> Jordan_U: So just to make sure I understand. I can run sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --removeable on the VM on the other computer, and it should fix the boot issue?
[21:23] <Jordan_U> omrikap: Yes.
[21:24] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: scp
[21:25] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: or rsync if you're trying to setup a backup job between the machines, but for simply moving files scp is a pretty easy to use secure solution for transferring files between computers running ssh
[21:26] <omrikap> Jordan_U: Thanks. You helped me a lot.
[21:27] <omrikap> xSolidState, k1l_: thanks for the help
[21:27] <xSolidState> omrikap, glad that you made some progress :)
[21:27] <bennypr0fane> wafflejock, right now, I just have this handful of Linux live image isos to move. But it might make sense to set up something that I can easily reuse later
[21:28] <Jordan_U> omrikap: You're welcome.
[21:31] <circ-user-RjjSY> test
[21:31] <k1l_> failed
[21:31] <Jordan_U> circ-user-RjjSY: In the future please use ##test.
[21:33] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: yeah you can use scp at the command line or occasionally I'll use Filezilla for sftp connections to browse around all depends on the particular use case though, with LAN connections I believe you can just browse the network as well but I'm not sure what protocol is used when not using CIFS or samba
[21:33] <Bashing-om> bennypr0fane: Another means: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two Lubuntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .
[21:35] <irc_0> ^----^
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[21:35] <irc_0> (____)        ) \ | |____| |  \   | |    | |   *
[21:37] <circ-user-RjjSY> %n
[21:37] <circ-user-RjjSY> "%n"
[21:37] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: if you go the SSH route you end up making a private/public keypair on the "client" computer and put the public key into a file on the destination computer in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, the private key stays on the client where it was created and if you use a password when making the key (probably a good idea) then even if the private key were compromised an attacker would have to break the password for the private key and h
[21:38] <bennypr0fane> Bashing-om, thanks for the hint, will check it out
[21:38] <bennypr0fane> wafflejock, whoa, you kinda lost me there
[21:39] <bennypr0fane> wafflejock, you mean I should use public key authentication for the ssh transfers, not passwords, yes?
[21:39] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: well you can still have a password for the private key, but if you leave that out when you generate the private/public key pair then you can do it without a password
[21:39] <bennypr0fane> well the ssh ports are not going to be listening on the internets...
[21:40] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: yeah always talk in terms of best practices here though... better safe than sorry you know :)
[21:40] <wafflejock> ultimately up to the users what they do with the system though
[21:42] <bennypr0fane> wafflejock, thanks will try some of this now... probably back in like 5 mins. crying because I broke sth...
[21:42] <neopsyche> Hi all.  I try to install bit ticker (bitcoin app) on ubuntu through software center "buy" and even though i am logged into software center ubuntu one.. it just loads and loads and does not install.. any ideas?
[21:42] <neopsyche> ubuntu 14.04
[21:43] <neopsyche> Processing your request for “BitTicker”…
[21:43] <neopsyche> Information received
[21:43] <wafflejock> neopsyche: can try installing with apt-get at the command line and see if you get some feedback
[21:44] <neopsyche> no package in apt since this is a "buy" app?
[21:45] <OerHeks> apt://bit-ticker
[21:45] <thebwt> Anyone else read that as BitTickler?
[21:47] <Travie> Lmao bittickler
[21:52] <jhutchins> neopsyche: It sounds like the third-party repo may be off line.
[21:52] <do123> how can i upgrade a installtion of 14.04 to 15.04 on command line?
[21:54] <OerHeks> do123, you'll need some tricks to do that, as 14.10 is EOL, see !eolupgrade
[21:55] <do123> OerHeks: i have to upgrade first from 14.04 to 14.10 and then from 14.10 to 15.04?
[21:55] <OerHeks> do123, yes
[21:56] <wafflejock> do123: yup there is no direct upgrade path, other option is backup and clean install to 15.04 otherwise need to wait to jump LTS to LTS
[21:56] <k1l_> do123: keep in mind, that you need to upgrade every 6 months from that on.
[21:57] <do123> k1l_: thats not a problem
[21:57] <do123> wafflejock: a reinstallation is sadly not possible in this case
[21:58] <wafflejock> do123: just curious what do you need in 15.04?
[21:58] <gartral> hey all, how do i test buttons on  amouse?
[21:58] <wafflejock> gartral: can use, xev
[21:59] <Bashing-om> do123: I am a proponent of keeping my stable OS stable, install the 15.04 release as dual boot, and break to my heart's content .
[21:59] <wafflejock> gartral: it'll pop up a window just hover over that with the pointer
[21:59] <wafflejock> gartral: it'll show any keypresses or mouse events received
[22:01] <wafflejock> gartral: assuming you start xev from a terminal here to see the output too by the way
[22:02] <do123> Bashing-om: 14.04 is not usable at the moment. i technically need 15.04 for running the system. but with tons of the customizations that are already done in the 14.04 thats already here
[22:03] <bekks> do123: Why isnt 14.04 usable?
[22:03] <do123> wafflejock: see the line i wrote to Bashing-om
[22:04] <k1l_> do123: that doesnt give any detail on why you need 15.04
[22:04] <do123> bekks: because i am getting graphical aterfacts i dont get at 15.04. i already updated xorg/mesa/gpu-drivers and i also already upgraded the kernek to 4.1.6
[22:04] <k1l_> !enablementstack | do123
[22:05] <do123> k1l_: because its not working on 14.04 and simply working out of the box in 15.04
[22:05] <boze> you know how on a vm you can make snapshot and if something goes wrong you can fully revert to that clean slate? would backups work like that in ubuntu?
[22:06] <Bashing-om> do123: My thought with " but with tons of the customizations " // 14.04 is upstart as the initate system, 15.04 is systemd - not compatible. Do a clean fresh install of 15.04 and save all the heart ache .
[22:06] <k1l_> do123: well, i doubt that it is not working with 14.04.3 with the 15.04 kernel and xorg settings. but do as you want.
[22:07] <do123> k1l_: the way you showed up installs more recent software then adding the xorg edgers ppa and doing an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[22:07] <wafflejock> boze: not entirely at least not unless you use some filesystem that supports taking snapshots of the live filesystem (believe zfs does that not sure about others also haven't used that myself)
[22:08] <k1l_> do123: 3rd party PPAs are way different than the official enablement stack, yes
[22:08] <wafflejock> boze: personally I take a snapshot with filezilla once I'm happy with a system to have a good full backup of the working system then have daily backups using the built in duplicity backup tool to backup to a NAS
[22:08] <wafflejock> -filezilla +clonezilla
[22:09] <p4trick> Im looking into buying a Laptop. I heard there were a list of models which go really well with ubuntu.
[22:09] <p4trick> Is it true that there is some hardware stuff to take into account?
[22:09] <boze> wafflejock: thanks, I'll look into clonezilla!
[22:09] <p4trick> Or is a lenovo w450 just fine...
[22:10] <do123> k1l_: i know that they are different. what xorg version would i get when i run this enablement stack? i have at the moment xorg 1.15.1
[22:10] <wafflejock> p4trick: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ there are also manufacturers that sell laptops with ubuntu preinstalled and offer some level of support
[22:11] <p4trick> thank you
[22:11] <k1l_> do123: with all that modifications i doubt a upgrade is a good idea anyway.
[22:12] <do123> k1l_: did you know the answer of my question? what is the xorg version of those enablement stack?
[22:13] <neopsyche> jhutchins: thanx
[22:13] <k1l_> do123: 15.04 xorg is 1.17.1
[22:13] <k1l_> do123: same as the one in the 14.04.3 enablement stack
[22:14] <do123> k1l_: ah, great. 1.17.1 is perfect
[22:16] <pero> i seem to have borked the sound on my 14.04 install. how would i go about restoring everything to defaults?
[22:16] <wafflejock> pero: with audio issues good to start with alsa to see if thats working first
[22:17] <mondo942> hey guys. just installed ubuntu from windows 7, did a complete format
[22:17] <wafflejock> pero: you can get alsa-utils and run the alsamixer to see your soundcard output settings and can use aplay somefile.wav, to test it out
[22:17] <pero> wafflejock, stuff works, kinda - it's hard to describe really. bunch of intermittent issues that manifest differently in different software
[22:17] <wafflejock> pero: above alsa by default you'll have pulseaudio, did you install Jack or anything like that?
[22:17] <pero> wafflejock, no nothing extra
[22:18] <wafflejock> pero: hmm okay, yeah would test with aplay first to be sure the alsa stuff is okay, if that seems to play fine then can try reinstalling pulseaudio maybe
[22:18] <mondo942> question: I have an ATI 5xxx  series card... it says I'm running 0.4 gallium on juniper drivers. How do I completely unisntall all video drivers and install proprietary ATI? I seem to be missing dependencies
[22:19] <pero> wafflejock, like i get staticy output in vlc until i minimize/maximize; staticy output in flash for a minute; no sound in some games; no sound in other games and then sound will start working later out of nowhere
[22:19] <wileee> mondo942, Is this a wubi install?
[22:19] <wafflejock> pero: strange... that sounds like bugs in the driver for your hardware
[22:19] <wafflejock> or hardware problems maybe
[22:19] <pero> wafflejock, i wanted to reinstall pulse but it wants to remove unity
[22:19] <mondo942> what's wubi?
[22:19] <pero> wafflejock, na it worked for almost a year until i did something =/
[22:19] <k1l_> mondo942: see system settings and go to the last tab in "updates and software". then choose the fglrx
[22:20] <mondo942> I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS from a flash drive and installed to internal drive
[22:20] <wileee> mondo942, Your description was rather strange is all, just checking.
[22:20] <wafflejock> pero: could be a regression in a kernel upgrade or something I guess, maybe could try with an older kernel, can you find your device in lspci
[22:21] <pero> wafflejock, no i did something - but it was a while ago and i don't really remember.
[22:21] <mondo942> k1l_ the additional drivers tab? Ah I see there's a few options... so I can change what drivers I use?
[22:22] <k1l_> mondo942: yes.
[22:22] <mondo942> do I want fglrx or fglrx-updates? What's the difference? (I'm assuming there's updates or it auto updates or something?)
[22:22] <k1l_> mondo942: but be aware that ati/amd drop older cards from time to time.
[22:22] <k1l_> mondo942: no real difference
[22:23] <mondo942> Yeah my card is certainly old... 5770HD I believe, due for an upgrade at some point in the near future. my CSGO has dropped from ~~120stable fps to around 60 dropping to 20-30...
[22:23] <wafflejock> pero: looks like the accepted solution here was just to let it do the uninstall of ubuntu-desktop then re-install those packages http://askubuntu.com/questions/475450/audio-suddenly-stopped-pulseaudio-reinstall-has-not-helped-14-04, you could also try to just sudo apt-get install pulseaudio --reinstall
[22:23] <mondo942> wil switch drivers restart and see what's happening
[22:23] <wafflejock> pero: this is just accepted solution for reinstalling pulseaudio not sure it will fix your issue though
[22:24] <wafflejock> pero: aplay should work regardless of pulseaudio though
[22:24] <pero> wafflejock, what's aplay?
[22:24] <wafflejock> pero: that's why it's good to test with that first so you can be sure it's not something beyond pulse
[22:24] <wafflejock> pero: just command line tool to play a file with ALSA
[22:24] <wafflejock> pero: so using the part of the audio stack below the pulseaudio or jack stuff
[22:25] <pero> wafflejock, is there a sample wav that coems with it?
[22:25] <wafflejock> pero: think I've used the ones in /usr/share/sounds
[22:26] <pero> wafflejock, yea it works fine
[22:27] <pero> wafflejock, alright, i'm going to try that solution you gave - wish me luck
[22:27] <pero> wafflejock, thx
[22:27] <wafflejock> pero: okay in that case I guess u probably do want to go with the post above and just reinstall all that, if you want to you can try manually blowing away the /etc/pulseaudio files and just doing the reinstall, but indeed good luck
[22:28] <ircmaxell> I'm running into an issue where kswapd0 is using 100% of a core, but there's no swap actually used (via top or free)... Not sure where to start digging
[22:29] <neofreak> Is there a IRC help channel that anyone can point me to please? Thank you
[22:29] <OerHeks> neofreak, for ubuntu?
[22:29] <neofreak> IRC on ubuntu yes
[22:30] <OerHeks> Then you are in the right channel, this is ubuntu support
[22:30] <neofreak> My Q'n Deals with Ubuntu / IRC/ TOR
[22:30] <neofreak> Mainly Connecting to a IRC server over the TOR network
[22:31] <OerHeks> neofreak, oke, here is a howto https://freenode.net/sasl/
[22:31] <OerHeks> !tor
[22:31] <zykotick9> neofreak: if you're trying to connect to freenode with TOR, I'd suggest asking in #freenode...
[22:32] <Bashing-om> neofreak: Best I recall freenode has diabled TOR. maight get better advise in #freenode channel .
[22:32] <neofreak> Thank you Oerheks & Bashing-om
[22:32] <OerHeks> unlike those *fbx.proxad.net guys that configured it wrong
[22:34] <pero> wafflejock, i am alive
[22:35] <pero> wafflejock, no sound in csgo on startup so i don't think that fixed it (sound in csgo normally comes back randomly later)
[22:36] <ac3takwas_> hey guys
[22:36] <ac3takwas_> Uhm, I need to solve a problem with my Ubuntu
[22:37] <ac3takwas_> Data gets wiped off pretty fast
[22:37] <ac3takwas_> How do I go around this? I mean managing internet bandwidth
[22:38] <ac3takwas_> Is there a tool I could use to get some apps restricted from internet usage?
[22:38] <ac3takwas_> Is anyone here with such know-how?
[22:39] <wafflejock> pero: yeah not sure would do lspci -k and check out your device id for your audio hardware and see if google comes back with any bug reports or anything related
[22:39] <wafflejock> pero: the -k part will show kernel modules loaded for a device too
[22:41] <pero> wafflejock, it's intel so there's a million hits
[22:41] <checkit> Hey guys... I threw up a quick vagrant box for a project but I need to switch to an older version of php to get it running. Any thoughts for me?
[22:41] <wafflejock> pero: what's the device id? that's the most specific thing you'll find results for typically
[22:42] <pero> wafflejock,  Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 09)
[22:44] <wafflejock> ac3takwas this is probably helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/776/how-i-can-limit-download-upload-bandwidth
[22:44] <frank_> irc.irc-hispano.org
[22:45] <wafflejock> pero: are you dual booting
[22:45] <pero> wafflejock, not with windows - i have a fedora install
[22:45] <rredd4> can't connect to my wifi.  wifi works with phone and another computer.  this iwconfig: wlan0     IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:off/any          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated          Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off         Power Managem
[22:45] <ac3takwas_> wafflejock, thanks
[22:46] <pero> wafflejock, i actually managed to bork the sound there as well - in an unrelated way :
[22:46] <pero> i impress myself sometimes
[22:48] <wafflejock> pero: haha yeah you got me beat :) this guide might help though a bit dated being for 12.04 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[22:49] <wafflejock> pero: I mean it seems as though if aplay works correctly, would give that a few more goes to make sure it works consistently then it's gotta be a problem in pulse or above but not sure where it's breaking down
[22:50] <wafflejock> or why a purge and reinstall of that wouldn't fix it
[22:51] <pero> wafflejock, yea i actually did run aplay a bunch of times - worked fine
[23:00] <pero> wafflejock, thanks for your time
[23:00] <wafflejock> pero: no problem, good luck, if you didn't notice I've struggled with some audio things myself as well :) hope you can get it solved
[23:01] <pero> wafflejock, i'll prob end up blowing both installs
[23:01] <pero> wafflejock, it's just bad timing i thing with the next lts less than a year away
[23:03] <wafflejock> pero: yeah I hear that, from what I've seen in 15.04 though it seems like the user facing changes are pretty minimal so I don't feel so bad being "stuck" on 14.04, I would take a backup and try to do an in place install over the existing install I don't think that will wipe out your home folder, someone here can probably confirm/deny that though
[23:05] <wafflejock> personally using Ubuntu Gnome and only real feature upgrade I want in gnome is the change in the notifications but don't think that made the latest release from them anyhow yet
[23:07] <bennypr0fane> How can I find my local IP on my network if I can't access the router?
[23:07] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: ifconfig
[23:07] <wafflejock> bennypr0fane: you should see inet addr followed by the IP
[23:08] <bennypr0fane> wafflejock, got it, thanks!
[23:09] <pero> wafflejock, i prefer gnome myself - which is the reason for the fedora install, but they just move too fast. i don't want to blow up my system every 9 months or whatever
[23:10] <pero> and the support in their irc after using fedup basically consists of downgrade or reinstall
[23:18] <NGC3982> Is there any good CLI monitoring program, for hardware temperatures that works like top?
[23:18] <NGC3982> sensor-detect gives me the correct data, but i would like something automatic to put in a screen.
[23:24] <MonkeyDust>  /quit the giving and taking of life will always beeeeeee
[23:34] <RJ45> hi, running 14.04 here, I want to use ffmpeg, the Ubuntu repo has it as a transitional package, upon installation there is no ffmpeg command, what gives? I want my ffmpeg
[23:35] <k1l_> RJ45: at that time ubuntu (and debian) only had avconv
[23:36] <RJ45> k1l_: at risk of sounding childish, that is pretty stupid
[23:36] <k1l_> so either use that (similar commands) or get a PPA to install it.
[23:36] <k1l_> RJ45: childish? you now ffmpeg split into 2 forks: ffmpeg and avconv?
[23:39] <RJ45> the ffmpeg package should install ffmpeg, whoever decided to make ffmpeg not install ffmpeg was an idiot, if I want to install ffmpeg why the heck would I not want it to be installed when I install the package?...
[23:39] <RJ45> wait, that entered wrong
[23:40] <RJ45> ffmpeg package should install ffmpeg, whoever decided to make ffmpeg not install ffmpeg was an idiot, if I want to install ffmpeg why the heck would I not want it to be installed when I install the package?...
[23:40] <k1l_> RJ45: debian and ubuntu decided to go the libav (avconv) path. so they made the transitional package not to break all programs. please really read into libav. its half of the old ffmpeg team and uses nearly the same commands
[23:41] <OerHeks> There were serious security issues with FFmpeg at that time, 14.04
[23:43] <RJ45> k1l_: this only BREAKS programs, such as WinFF, now WinFF is pointed to a directory for ffmpeg that does not exist
[23:44] <RJ45> (/usr/bin/ffmpeg )
[23:44] <OerHeks> RJ45, good news, ffmpeg is back in 15.04
[23:44] <RJ45> well I'm not upgrading today
[23:44] <k1l_> winff works with avconv
[23:44] <RJ45> any way to get winff to work with anconv?
[23:44] <serendependy> RJ45, https://code.google.com/p/winff/wiki/UsingAvconv
[23:44] <serendependy> ?
[23:44] <Penguinguy> Hey, question: I have a Canon MB 2320. It has the option to connect to the computer over usb, and when it is connected over usb it will allow you to 'scan to pc'. When I do this, it scans like normal, I was wondering if ubuntu was even doing anything with the file....
[23:45] <RJ45> serendependy: thank you, this whole situation shouldn't even be a thing..
[23:45] <RJ45> bye
[23:46] <RJ45> winff now says it cannot find anconv
[23:46] <RJ45> this is stupid
[23:47] <RJ45> I give up
[23:47] <serendependy> :(
[23:48] <k1l_> well, he needs to find another program to rant about then.
[23:49] <k1l_> for 14.04 you need to make sure libavcodec-extra-54 is installed