[01:13] <bluesabre> ochosi: that looks much better, thanks!
[06:29] <ochosi> morning flocculant 
[06:30] <flocculant> morning ochosi 
[06:30] <ochosi> in case you haven't been pinged about that, bluesabre is working on some catfish improvements we'd like to get into wily
[06:30] <flocculant> I've seen the chat :)
[06:31] <flocculant> and I guessed the rest :p
[06:31] <ochosi> those changes aren't under the hood as far as i can see, so no regression potential
[06:31] <ochosi> but you can still check it out if you want
[06:31] <flocculant> ok
[06:31] <flocculant> always best I think
[06:32] <ochosi> it's here: https://code.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/catfish-search/gtk316-csd
[06:32] <ochosi> basically you have to bzr branch it, then apt-get build-dep it, and then ./configure && make && sudo make install
[06:32] <flocculant> ta - I'll grab that later today 
[06:32] <ochosi> note that some things in the sidebar aren't ready yet
[06:32] <ochosi> and ideally you'll have greybird from the daily PPA
[06:32] <flocculant> ok
[06:33] <ochosi> otherwise some menuitems look funky :)
[06:33] <flocculant> yea - have that 
[06:34] <ochosi> alrighty, and if you see slicky, feel free to remind him about the meeting (i won't be around during the day), would be good to have one around FF
[06:34] <ochosi> (pinged him last night, but i think he sometimes signs on from webirc)
[06:34] <flocculant> yea - iirc he's on vacation 
[06:35] <ochosi> oh ok
[06:35] <ochosi> in that case we should probably skip him in the meeting list
[06:35] <ochosi> humm, i guess pleia2 is also travelling
[06:36] <ochosi> after those two it'd be your turn – wanna jump in and schedule one?
[06:36] <flocculant> ok - I'll schedule today for the end of the week
[06:36] <ochosi> thanks a bunch!
[06:36] <flocculant> actually works out ok - next week I'm off till Friday
[06:36] <flocculant> and Beta 1 ... 
[06:36] <ochosi> yeah
[06:38] <ochosi> anyhow, not sure there are important decisions creeping up, but around FF and B1 it's always good to schedule a meeting
[06:38] <flocculant> I'll try for a time all the release team are available 
[06:38] <ochosi> okay
[06:38] <flocculant> so I'm ok all day - if you and bluesabre can tell me the best time on Friday 
[06:38] <flocculant> if possible
[06:39] <ochosi> i guess for bluesabre it's around 10-11UTC or from 22UTC
[06:43]  * ochosi out
[06:43] <flocculant> bluesabre: ping me with an exact time for friday - if you want to - do the www.timeanddate.com thing and I'll use that 
[06:44] <flocculant> for 21st August
[09:58] <bluesabre> flocculant: 10-11UTC would be guaranteed I could make it
[09:59] <pleia2> knome: thanks for replying to that email, I'm still not sure what they want
[10:05] <pleia2> ochosi: yeah, not really "home" properly until thursday morning, then I'm off again on august 28th for another week
[10:07] <knome> pleia2, no problem
[10:11] <bluesabre> flocculant: for catfish, at this point, the only thing that is not working (to my knowledge) is the custom date range... everything else should be functional
[10:13] <bluesabre> oh, and it dies if the search comes across a psd file... that seems to be a regression in gtk, but I'll try to work around that
[10:18] <knome> :D :D
[10:18] <knome> so catfish isn't very useful for me atm
[10:37] <bluesabre> :)
[10:38] <bluesabre> gdk-pixbuf-error-quark: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/home/bluesabre/watermarktest.psd' (3)
[10:38] <bluesabre> /usr/local/bin/catfish: line 2: 22497 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) python3 /usr/local/share/catfish/bin/catfish.py "$@"
[10:38] <bluesabre> that's what happens
[10:38] <bluesabre> "what is this, oh crap! *die*"
[10:38] <knome> heh, yeah...
[10:39] <knome> i'd understand if it was software that tried to SHOW the file..
[10:40] <bluesabre> catfish creates thumbnails as it searchs (for the preview view), so that's probably what it is
[10:40] <knome> right..
[10:40] <knome> thumbnails for many of my PDFs wouldn't be too useful
[10:40] <knome> that's what filenames are
[10:40] <knome> +for
[10:40] <bluesabre> it only thumbnails images
[10:41] <bluesabre> image/* mimetypes
[10:41] <knome> client_flyer_hxw_2015_cmyk.psd
[10:41] <knome> or sth
[10:41] <bluesabre> yeah
[10:41] <bluesabre> should be an easy fix
[10:41] <knome> tells a lot more than a small preview of that ^
[10:41] <bluesabre> just gotta dig around the code :)
[10:42] <bluesabre> but, its too early now, back to bed for me
[10:42] <bluesabre> bbl
[10:42] <knome> sleep tight
[10:57] <slickymasterWork> knome, I noticed that krytarik made a -docs MP
[10:57] <slickymasterWork> did you review it?
[10:58] <knome> yes and no
[10:58] <knome> it looks fine to me
[11:00] <slickymasterWork> 'yes and no'. any concerns?
[11:00] <knome> not really
[11:00] <knome> maybe i should recheck it
[11:01] <knome> the "no" part is that i don't understand Standards-Version :P
[11:01] <knome> but i'm sure it's fine
[11:02] <slickymasterWork> ok, will you deal with it then? or do you want me to?
[11:02] <knome> i'm about to merge it
[11:03] <slickymasterWork> ok, thanks
[11:03] <knome> done
[11:03] <slickymasterWork> ñeither Dylan or Stéphane, answer the ubiquity mail 
[11:03] <slickymasterWork> thanks
[11:03] <knome> well, pushing it now
[11:03] <knome> yeah... :/
[11:04] <knome> i'm wondering if we should take it to the TB or sth
[11:04] <slickymasterWork> what's TB?
[11:04] <knome> otoh, i'd really like their (dylan+stephane) opinion on it more than anybody elses
[11:04] <knome> technical board
[11:06] <slickymasterWork> I'll resend it today. it might be laying around their inboxes, forgotten  
[11:06] <knome> yep
[11:07] <knome> or in trash...
[11:07] <knome> (not meaning they don't care, but if they use email the same way i do...)
[12:26] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - set for 10:00UTC Friday
[12:31] <flocculant> bluesabre: the catfish appeared to want me to install python-pexpect
[12:33] <flocculant> mmm - not sure this catfish is what I'm expecting then ... 
[12:53] <knome> flocculant, slickymasterWork: what's your stance about the poll in the installer slideshow?
[12:53] <knome> that work item seems to be stale, and nobody has picked it up
[12:54] <knome> after thinking about it myself, i'm not too excited about it atm
[12:56] <flocculant> well
[12:57] <flocculant> last poll done by team is stuck in the doldrums - so not seeing any point in another one
[12:57] <knome> yes, we should process that one too
[12:59] <flocculant> yep
[13:00] <knome> http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-calendar
[13:00] <knome> for those who are interested
[13:02] <flocculant> knome: I hope that is some odd timezone ... 
[13:02] <knome> utc
[13:02] <knome> hmm
[13:02] <flocculant> not doing a meeting at 7am ever 
[13:02] <knome> oops.
[13:02] <flocculant> :p
[13:03] <knome> my bad, fixed
[13:03] <flocculant> I did need to triple check 
[13:07] <flocculant> knome: also - useful to not need extra bookmark :)
[13:07] <knome> figured
[13:18] <knome> landed some visual updates for the tracker
[13:19] <flocculant> not an ellipse amongst them - so I can see it 
[13:19] <knome> ;)
[13:22] <knome> the burndown tells me there isn't too much time before beta 1
[13:24] <flocculant> indeed 
[13:25] <flocculant> burndown tells me people keep adding stuff :)
[13:25] <knome> that was me
[13:25] <knome> i basically split one work item to two
[13:25] <knome> because the other half got done today
[13:26] <knome> the good thing is that now the other half is a bitesize item
[13:26] <flocculant> I meant more generally 
[13:26] <knome> heh, yeah
[13:27] <knome> the thing is that we really began using the blueprints for tracking after the old tracker was dead for a week+
[13:27] <knome> that is, after the gap in the burndown
[13:27] <knome> hope next cycle is smoother than ever regarding that
[13:28] <knome> activating the new cycle in this tracker is just adding a row in a DB too
[13:28] <knome> and no need to get the blueprints approved
[13:28] <flocculant> oh awesome :)
[13:29] <knome> and tbe, we can even start tracking before the cycle starts
[13:29] <knome> then simply switch to the new cycle when it has started
[13:30] <flocculant> possibly a useful thing 
[13:30] <knome> yes and no
[13:30] <knome> no because there likely isn't much to track :P
[13:30] <knome> and also because i don't think we want to show pre-cycle data
[13:31] <knome> but... yeah, the transition is going to be easy nonetheless
[13:31] <flocculant> yep 
[13:31] <flocculant> biab
[13:31] <knome> hf, i might be gone when you get back
[14:09] <slickymasterWork> damn flocculant, another meeting I won't be able to attend :P
[14:09] <slickymasterWork> I'm leaving to Lisbon Wednesday evening (work related) and will just return Sunday night 
[14:10] <slickymasterWork> I agree with you both, regarding the poll
[14:10] <slickymasterWork> flocculant knome ^^^
[14:19] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: sorry and all that 
[14:23] <knome> i dropped the item
[14:24] <knome> and i'm thinking whether we should just drop the wiki data mining, since the meetings are visible on the calendar page
[14:25] <flocculant> I think I'll be dropping automated package testing after this cycle
[14:25] <knome> isn't there some movement regarding that during this cycle?
[14:25] <flocculant> that's just written down - then marked as postponed
[14:25] <knome> the jenkins instance for flavors or sht
[14:25] <knome> *sth
[14:26] <flocculant> knome: no - they've been looking at jenkins and image smoketests
[14:26] <flocculant> different things
[14:26] <knome> aha
[14:26] <knome> but isn't smoketests automatic too?
[14:26] <knome> i mean, it's part of the image
[14:26] <knome> boy, bad wording
[14:26] <flocculant> not currently
[14:26] <knome> right...
[14:26] <knome> would it be with the jenkins instance?
[14:26] <flocculant> yes
[14:26] <knome> mhm
[14:27] <flocculant> but - they are different things :)
[14:27] <knome> sure
[14:27] <knome> what ELSE automatic testing are we looking at then?
[14:27] <knome> for packages?
[14:27] <flocculant> yea 
[14:27] <knome> right
[14:27] <flocculant> but gtk2/3 issue with that always
[14:28] <slickymasterWork> give a few minutes guys
[14:28] <flocculant> and even if we make them work - that doesn't mean there would be anywhere canonical to do them
[14:28] <slickymasterWork> headquarters on the phone.... nagging 
[14:29] <flocculant> so while gtk2/3 - not really a point in even thinking about that
[14:29] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: didn't know you were married :p
[14:30] <flocculant> not sure there is much point in "Exploratory testing information to testers via ML" this late in cycle either
[14:31] <flocculant> we might be better served me doing a full-on "QA articles for xubuntu.org" about that whole thing between now and xx 
[14:33] <knome> mhm, maybe
[14:33] <knome> and for that work item, it would be more useful if it was split into several items clearly pinpointing the subject of the articles
[14:33] <flocculant> or blog is mailed to list for testers
[14:34] <flocculant> knome: yea for sure - except no telling what's likely until it happens
[14:34] <knome> we have a transition in the works - to make cycle tags their own taxonomy - after that, using tags will be much clearer
[14:34] <knome> in the sense that they actually work as tags
[14:35] <flocculant> right
[14:35] <knome> i say this because then we can create all kinds of custom "searches" for people
[14:35] <flocculant> sort of seen those discussion in here off and on
[14:35] <knome> not just tag with "QA" but something more specific
[14:35] <knome> yep
[14:35] <knome> it's basically done, now i need to finalize that and some other stuff, and let IS push that to production
[14:36] <flocculant> nice
[14:43] <knome_tests> shiny, this works too
[14:44] <flocculant> is it like knome_tests polish? 
[14:45] <knome> huh?
[14:45] <knome> :)
[14:45] <knome> see the tracker
[14:45] <flocculant> :)
[14:45] <knome> going to improve the discussion tab with this stuff...
[14:45] <knome> hozzah
[14:46] <knome> you can even change the tab
[14:46] <knome> and come back
[14:46] <tracker1> :)
[14:46] <knome> maybe slimy likes that feature
[14:46] <knome> one browser tab at work for all xubuntu stuff
[14:47] <flocculant> :)
[14:49] <knome> i'll improve/merge that later
[14:49] <knome> i'll likely drop the heading for that tab, and do some optimizations
[14:49] <knome> like make sure there is no double scrollbars by making sure the iframe fits the browser window
[14:50] <knome> maybe even go as far as add a stylesheet for the document inside the iframe - to change the font size for the webchat
[14:52] <knome> another test...
[14:52] <knome> nice
[14:57] <flocculant> I knew I would come across unreadable captchas
[14:57] <knome> :D
[14:57] <knome> there are some for sure
[14:57] <flocculant> yea
[14:58] <flocculant> the pics of numbers are ok
[14:58] <knome> anyway, we have friends coming over (again)
[14:58] <flocculant> the recopied copy of a copied copy word ones are awful :D
[14:58] <flocculant> okey doke - cya :)
[14:58] <knome> will be back later - have fun meanwhile :)
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, my bosses, apparently, think that I ought to be married with job, at least :P
[15:32] <flocculant> :)
[15:41] <slickymasterWork> some return after two weeks vacation :P
[15:52] <flocculant> heh
[16:04] <flocculant> bluesabre: is there anything that we have in PPA which would be useful to 
[16:04] <flocculant> A - get testers looking at?
[16:05] <flocculant> B - get testers to add to beta1 next week? 
[16:05] <flocculant> trying to get all my cards in a row so I can set them up as I am away from mid morning Monday to late Thursday next week
[16:05] <flocculant> which isn't best timing 
[16:07] <flocculant> that's pretty damn quick :D
[20:41] <ochosi> hey jjfrv8 
[20:41] <ochosi> sorry haven't really had time yet to review the thunar docs
[20:41] <ochosi> been quite busy lately on the personal level
[20:45] <jjfrv8> ochosi, no worries
[20:49] <Unit193> Oh good!  I was still wondering what I got out of it! :---D
[20:49] <Unit193> dkessel, krytarik: Congrats.
[20:49] <Unit193> ochosi: Oh, and +1 to krytarik. :P
[20:49] <krytarik> Thanks! :D
[20:49] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, i forgot to mention: if your name is Unit193 you get nothing... sorry!
[20:50] <ochosi> krytarik: conga-rats!
[20:50] <krytarik> :)
[20:50] <ochosi> dkessel: conga-rats to you too!
[20:50] <Unit193> Ooooh!
[21:10] <knome> hey everybody!
[21:10] <knome> just one thing i want to tell you
[21:10] <knome> for background information, i'm working as a beta tester for a closed-source website
[21:11] <knome> i'm so happy we have this open communication, and that it works so well
[21:11] <knome> thanks, we're fantastic!
[21:24] <ochosi> :)
[21:24] <ochosi> and yay, +1
[21:24] <ochosi> time to head to bed, night everyone!
[21:26] <knome> nighty ochosi 
[21:26] <knome> well, simon, really!
[21:26] <knome> :)
[22:08] <bluesabre> hey pasi
[22:08] <bluesabre> good teamwork around here
[22:08] <bluesabre> :D
[22:10] <knome> hey sean
[22:11] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[22:11] <knome> not too bad
[22:11] <knome> just tweaked the tracker a bit more
[22:12] <bluesabre> :)
[22:12] <knome> now calendar/irc iframes are only loaded when needed
[22:12] <knome> and the irc frame is squeezed to fit the window
[22:12] <bluesabre> looks pretty
[22:14] <bluesabre> this is so much nicer than crawling blueprints
[22:15] <knome> isn't it ;)
[22:51] <krytarik> knome: "[xubuntu-doc] Link to the PDF files from the documentation: INPROGRESS" - are you still planning to try an alternative approach there, or should we just assign it to me, and set it to "DONE"?
[22:55] <knome> we can assign it to you and get "something" done
[22:55] <knome> talk with slickyma1ter about what he wants regarding that, and i'll be fine with what you come up with
[22:58] <knome> and thanks for taking care :)
[23:01] <krytarik> Well, it *is* already done.
[23:07] <krytarik> knome: More specifically, you introduced it here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily/revision/405#scripts/pdf-create.sh
[23:08] <knome> oh, hah, right
[23:08] <knome> let me see that