[00:46] <home-mobile> I installed pepper flash for chromium and it worked fine but the next time I rebooted chromium will not even start.  Is there an obvious solution?
[02:13] <Roey> hi
[02:14] <Roey> my webcam won't work anymore.  It doesn't light up red even.. Although 'dmesg' gives: [346718.462784] input: UVC Camera (046d:0990) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.4/0000:05:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/input/input24
[03:22] <[Relic]> has session saving been fixed in 15.04 yet?
[03:22] <[Relic]> aka, does it actually work properly and automatically yet?
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:27] <Newb101> Hello there.
[07:28] <Newb101> By the name, I bet you can see I am a newb. I am going to have some very stupid newb questions. Can you help me?
[07:29] <lordievader> !ask | Newb101
[07:31] <Newb101> !ask I see that there is a new version of Kubuntu. I'm not sure if I am still on 14. Muon doesn't say there's a new version to upgrade. Am I doping something wrong?
[07:32] <lordievader> Newb101: What does 'cat /etc/issue' return?
[07:33] <Newb101> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[07:35] <lordievader> LTS, by default, do not offer to upgrade to non LTS releases.
[07:35] <Newb101> Is that why, because I have the LTS?
[07:35] <lordievader> Besides there is no direct path from 14.04 to 15.04.
[07:36] <lordievader> And 14.10 being EOL doesn't make it any easier.
[07:36] <Newb101> So, is it not worth it?
[07:36] <lordievader> If you really want it I'd reinstall 15.04 rather than upgrade.
[07:37] <Newb101> Will it erase data?
[07:37] <Newb101> And programs?
[07:37] <lordievader> Depends on how you reinstall ;) If you have a seperate /home only the programs are lost.
[07:38] <Newb101> I have most of my files saved on a seperate harddrive. I just have a lot of programs with specific configurations.
[07:38] <soee> i think there should be some wiki tutorial that explains how and why users shoudl use separtae partition for home dir :)
[07:39] <lordievader> It's strange that the default is still one large /
[07:40] <Newb101> Once 15.04 has an LTS release, will it show up as an upgrade?
[07:41] <lordievader> Newb101: The next LTS is 16.04, not upcoming release but the one after.
[07:42] <Newb101> Oh. I think I get it. And, when that release come out, it will ask me if I want to upgrade automatically?
[07:43] <soee> Newb101: 16.04 will be released next year
[07:43] <lordievader> Month 04 of year 2016 --> 16.04
[07:43] <Newb101> In April, I assume . . .
[07:43] <Newb101> Yeah.
[07:43] <Newb101> I think I get it.
[07:44] <Newb101> I guess I'm fine with 14 for now. It seems like it's been good to me.
[07:44] <Newb101> Correct me if I'm wrong. Only the even numbers have LTS?
[07:45] <soee> it should be stable :) 15.04 or 15.10 is for those who want to try/use new Plasma :)
[07:45] <lordievader> Newb101: Indeed ;)
[07:45] <lordievader> Every even .04 release is an LTS.
[07:45] <Newb101> You guys have been immensely helpful.
[07:46] <Newb101> And, when that comes out, My update software will notify me and ask if I wish to upgrade.
[07:47] <lordievader> Yes.
[07:47] <Newb101> Have you guys tried the new Plasma?
[07:47] <soee> Newb101: sure :) i ahve it on all my machines
[07:47] <Newb101> Do you like it thus far?
[07:48] <soee> on my laptop, workstation and even my parents use it ;D
[07:48] <soee> Newb101: yes i love it, more than KDE4
[07:50] <Newb101> This is my first real experience with Linux, and I'm liking it for the most part. Still a lot to get used to. I have Windows on my other hard dreive, but have not booted into it more than twice. I think it's  safe to say I'll stick with this for a bit.
[07:53] <Newb101> Thank you guys for  taking time to address my questions, I know it must be . . . frustrating to talk with someone who knows so little; but your patience is appreciated.
[07:53] <soee> Newb101: download Kubujtnu 15.04 or 15.10 iso and create bootable USB and play with it
[07:53] <soee> Newb101: we all was one day where you are now :)
[07:54] <Newb101> I may do that. I have plenty of processing power to run it in a VM
[07:54] <soee> Newb101: with bootable USB you can run latest Kubuntu without installing it (live session)
[07:54] <Newb101> Is this technically IRC?
[07:56] <Newb101> 'Cause I don't understand IRC at all. Is there like an "IRC for Dummies" page?
[07:58] <soee> Newb101: what is IRC ?
[07:58] <soee> this chat ?
[07:58] <soee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[08:00] <Newb101> Perfect. Thank you
[08:01] <soee> !irc
[08:02] <Newb101> When you say "See !Guidelines" what does the "!" mean?
[08:04] <soee> ubottu is a bot on this channel and it has some commands that you can call, commands are prefixed with !
[08:04] <valorie> it's not frustrating, Newb101 -- it's satisfying to see new users
[08:04] <valorie> welcome to #kubuntu
[08:04] <Newb101> !Guidelines
[09:15] <frenda> What's the correct pronounciation for Kubuntu: /ku:bu:ntu:/ or /kʌbʌntʌ/ or sth else?
[09:16] <Fritigern> Frenda, watch this video and you will never forget :-)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xSQX2QgTY
[09:17] <frenda> sure
[09:17] <lordievader> Why not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luvk83_S-AA
[09:19] <Fritigern> Because if anyone knows how to pronounce the word, it's archbisschop Desmond Tutu, since he speaks the language where the word is from :-)
[09:20] <Fritigern> Besides, my video shows a good song :-)
[09:24] <frenda> how can I restart plasma without losing running apps? (plasma is not up properly, the taskbar is not available and also kickoff, krunner)
[09:26] <frenda> I run firefox at the beginning and now ths my desktop: http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/75080
[09:27] <frenda> I mean i didnt wait to it load desktop completely
[09:27] <frenda> no menu, no taskbar, no background, no plasma!
[09:28] <frenda> and, right-click on desktop does not work!
[09:28] <lordievader> frenda: Kill plasmashell and start it again? (Or perhaps first restart kwin)
[09:28] <Fritigern> I often had the problem where the taskbar won't load, in my case it has to do with ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc somehow losing part of the configuration that will build make the taskbar be drawn
[09:28] <lordievader> kwin_x11 --replace
[09:31] <Fritigern> Another issue that I have run into is ksycoca keeping a stale file, thus preventing plasma from loading altogether. I have made a little script formyself that will kill plasmashell, delete the offending file, recreate it, and start plasmashell again.
[09:31] <frenda> didn't work :( --> https://gist.github.com/BaflyIr/e38fe646058dfa302811
[09:33] <lordievader> frenda: Then kill plasmashell and restart it.
[09:34] <frenda> by service?
[09:35] <lordievader> No, the process kill it, then start it with 'cd ~ && nohup plasmashell&'
[09:37] <frenda> I didn't kill anything, but 'cd ~ && nohup plasmashell&' solved the proble, though I got this: [1] 2082
[09:37] <frenda> lordievader: thank you
[09:37] <lordievader> Wasn't plasmashell running at all?
[09:39] <frenda> lordievader: It seems it wasn't!
[09:39] <lordievader> Hmm, does that happen everytime you login?
[09:41] <frenda> often, if I don't wait enought to let him to loaded completely; I mean if I run sth immediately
[09:41] <frenda> just in that case
[09:42] <frenda> lordievader: `kwin_x11 --replace` --> it didn't back to command prompt, it's showing 'kwin_core: Done.'; Can I Ctrl+C?
[09:45] <lordievader> Hmm, that should fork into the background.
[09:48] <hateball> append an &
[09:48] <frenda> Is anybody here using plank?
[09:50] <frenda> How can I chek the Plasma version? `ark --version` does not show anything about Plasma!
[09:50] <frenda> check*
[09:50] <lordievader> hateball: But it should do it itself ;)
[09:50] <lordievader> frenda: Check the kinfocenter.
[09:51] <frenda> Is it an app command line interface?, lordievader
[09:51] <frenda> app for *
[09:52] <lordievader> Kinfocenter is an application.
[09:52] <lordievader> I guess dbus could tell you somewhere.
[09:53] <frenda> kinfocenter --> bash: kinfocenter: command not found
[09:55] <lordievader> Under plasma4 that is the command, does autocomplete help?
[10:05] <frenda> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luvk83_S-AA --> So, s it /ku:bʌntu:/ ?
[10:06] <frenda> is it*
[10:08] <lordievader> I suppose Riddell knows how to pronounce Kubuntu ;)
[10:10] <Riddell> I've no idea, it's a silly name anyway, (it's a gnome conspiracy)
[10:12] <lordievader> Oh well, I suppose if we take over the world it doesn't matter ;)
[10:15] <frenda> Anyway, how do you pronounce it currently? Riddell, lordievader
[10:16] <frenda> If you were presenting somewhere, what is your prefered pronounciation? (regardingless if it's correct/wrong)
[10:18] <frenda> regardless*
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:19] <AbuDhar> hey.. how to install KDE plasma on Ubuntu 14.04? is it possible+
[14:19] <AbuDhar> Plasma 5.3**
[14:20] <lordievader> Nope.
[14:20] <lordievader> You need to upgrade to 15.04 for that.
[14:21] <AbuDhar> awwww but 14.04 is LTS
[14:22] <lordievader> Precisely ;)
[14:30] <BluesKaj> AbuDhar:  I believe you can add plasma 5,2 to kubuntu 14.10
[14:30] <lordievader> 14.10 is EOL.
[14:31] <AbuDhar> I guess I can get Plasma 5.1.2 at least for Ubuntu 14.04 ? :D
[14:31] <lordievader> No.
[14:32] <Unit193> AbuDhar: That's the point, it IS an LTS, not a "latest and greatest" release.
[14:32] <lordievader> Well I suppose you could compile Plasma5 yourself but you'll only run into a mountain of trouble.
[14:32] <lordievader> ^^ that precisely.
[14:32] <lordievader> Stable and old rather than new and perhaps unstable.
[14:32] <AbuDhar> well I will just wait till the next LTS from Ubuntu :)
[14:33] <AbuDhar> when will that be? anyone?
[14:33] <lordievader> 16.04 ;)
[14:35] <AbuDhar> any release date lordievader ?
[14:35] <lordievader> Year 16, month 04.
[14:35] <[Relic]> has session saving been fixed in 15.04 yet?  does it properly save where programs are running on each different virtual desktop when you shut down a restart yet?
[14:36] <AbuDhar> lordievader, oh well fine :D
[15:04] <yueyue> Hello all. I was just trying to update my wily installation. The dependencies can not be solved - is the repository broken at the moment?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> yueyue:  which mirror do you use ?
[15:12] <yueyue> BluesKaj: I seem to only use the master: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily main restricted
[15:14] <yueyue> I can't seem to pinpoint which packages break dependencies. It seems a version bump of something could be the reason. I have lots of packages which are not in the repository anymore.
[15:16] <yueyue> I ran apt with the pkgProblemResolver debug option: https://paste.kde.org/p0yysht3g
[15:17] <yueyue> I have a "mint condiction" virtual machine. It seems to have the same issues. So it's nothing installation related. The repostitory is probably really broken. Can I report this somewhere?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> yueyue:  try #kubuntu-devel
[15:19] <yueyue> BluesKaj: Thank you very much!
[15:50] <yossarianuk> hi is there a volume/mixer widget for plasma5.x anywhere ?
[16:32] <akasic> hi all, my battery doesnt charge, it stays at 0%.  a few days ago it was working correctly, i dont know if it may be the kernel or what, any help? thnx
[16:36] <BluesKaj> akasic:  does it charge when the OS is shut down?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> akasic:  also check your battery slot and connection, make sure the battery is not even slightly loose.
[16:38] <akasic> well, it shows the light as charging, yes, but i think that not as it should
[16:38] <akasic> ok, ill do it, thnx BluesKaj
[16:39] <akasic> i must say that when i unplug the cable, its stays for 40 seconds and then shuts
[16:39] <BluesKaj> perhaps power management isn't setup properly in system settings
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ok, but first check your power management setings
[16:40] <akasic> ill set them to default, but the problem persist
[16:40] <akasic> yesterday
[16:40] <TJ-> akasic: check the battery status: "  for n in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/*; do [ -f $n ] && echo $n = $(cat $n); done "
[16:41] <TJ-> akasic: compare charge_full_design with charge_full
[16:42] <akasic> its says charging
[16:42] <TJ-> akasic: what do those settings I mentioned report?
[16:43] <akasic> 0 and 45300000
[16:43] <TJ-> akasic: So, the battery has given up and needs replacing
[16:43] <akasic> i think the problem came the day, taht in the tray, my battery was ''detected'' as pega
[16:44] <BluesKaj> akasic:  how old is the battery ?
[16:44] <akasic> one year and a half
[16:45] <TJ-> "charge_full" is the battery telling how much charge it can hold. If that is 0 it suggests the internal cells have failed
[16:45] <BluesKaj> oh my, that's not very good ...is it original or a replacemenr?
[16:46] <akasic> so, the battery is simply broken? thats a bit depressive, how can simpy broke, i didnt do anything. yes it is the original
[16:47] <akasic> so, i must open the battery to ensure that the cables are well pluged? it is a built in one
[16:47] <TJ-> akasic: batteries fail, they are  complex mixes of chemicals
[16:47] <akasic> thnx for the help you both
[16:48] <akasic> open the pc i mean
[16:48] <akasic> maybe the lasts storms simply fried it
[16:48] <TJ-> akasic: you will need to obtain a replacement. If it is an internal battery you'll also need to open the PC and exchange the batteries. If you're not sure about that look online for photos of other people doing it with your model of PC
[16:49] <akasic> yes , i done it, but i was refering to make sure the cables were attached to it correctly, thnx anyway
[16:50] <TJ-> akasic: connections must be fine ... the battery is talking to the PC over the IIC communications bus
[16:50] <akasic> it what him suggested me, first
[16:50] <akasic> ok
[16:51] <akasic> well, ill go, thnx again and cya
[16:53] <BluesKaj> the battery on my lenovo g500 seems to be holding up since dec 2013...no real signs of weakness, yet
[16:54] <TJ-> I have some Li-ion batteries still more than 50% that were bought in 2002
[16:54] <TJ-> But others have failed rapidly after 18 months.
[16:58] <talmage> plasmashell hangs while starting up on my laptop.
[16:58] <talmage> It worked yesterday.
[16:58] <talmage> The last thing I did before shutting down cleanly was to change the display configuration in system settings.
[16:59] <talmage> I changed it the laptop screen and an external  monitor to just the laptop screen.
[16:59] <talmage> One other difference is that yesterday, I had a wired network connection.
[16:59] <akasic> hey BluesKaj and Tj, i unplugged the cable and my battery seems to be working now... thhe indicator stills in 0, and the data i give to you remains the same, but at the moment, im near 5 min (it lasted 40 seconds) and its doing right
[16:59] <talmage> Today, I have none.
[17:00] <TJ-> akasic: unplugged the charger do you mean?
[17:00] <akasic> yes the cable that charge it, now im in battery
[17:00] <akasic> the charger
[17:00] <akasic> very strange
[17:01] <akasic> i think is the kernel, or whatever
[17:01] <akasic> but as u said, the  IIC communications bus dont lie...
[17:02] <akasic> very strange
[17:02] <akasic> well, its working, thats what matters, thnx again and cya
[17:02] <akasic> :S
[17:04] <akasic> hey talmage, do u think that may be the secondary keys from ur keyboard?
[17:04] <talmage> akasic, I don't understand
[17:04] <akasic> sometimes te keyboards have combinations for disabling wifi, monitors, touchpad etc
[17:05] <talmage> Oh, I see.
[17:05] <akasic> cool
[17:05] <talmage> The network isn't missing.  It's disconnected.
[17:05] <akasic> ok
[17:06] <talmage> The laptop shows the spash screen with the progress bar.  The bar goes about 80% to the right.  Then no movement.  I let it sit for an hour.
[17:06] <talmage> Nothing obvious in .xsession-errors.
[17:07] <akasic> did u tried another kernel in grub
[17:07] <talmage> The laptop is booting.  I did try booting single-user and manually fsck-ing.  It didn't change anything.
[17:08] <talmage> I moved both .kde and .cache out of the way and rebooted.  Spash screen and progress bar still hang at 80%.
[17:09] <talmage> I have another user on my laptop and I can log in as him.  He gets the plasma desktop.
[17:10] <TJ-> talmage: do you mean the desktop manager splash, or the boot-time plymouth splash? If the latter, you sohuld be able to press Esc to see the terminal messages
[17:10] <talmage> Desktop manager splash.
[17:10] <talmage> sddm is running.
[17:11] <talmage> I can log in on a pty and see what's running.
[17:14] <akasic> did u tried to make a new xorg
[17:15] <akasic> that link has some helps https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=8803&amp
[17:18] <talmage> I just tried something.
[17:19] <talmage> I plugged in an HDMI monitor, the same kind that I used yesterday.
[17:19] <talmage> Now the desktop loads.
[17:19] <talmage> How f-ed up is that!
[17:20] <akasic> cooool
[17:21] <talmage> cool that I have a desktop.  Uncool that I'm now tethered to a monitor.
[17:25] <talmage> And get this: If I unify the video outputs, then unplug the HDMI cable, I get the spash screen and stuck progress bar again.
[17:28] <talmage> Thanks for listening, everyone.
[17:28] <talmage> Thanks for your help, akasic and JT-.
[17:48] <phoenix__> I am on kubuntu 15.10, I have updated my system now. I can't find the new volume widget
[17:49] <phoenix__> kde plasma version 5.3.95
[17:49] <phoenix__> can you people see my messages?
[17:50] <phoenix__> ahoneybun: hi
[17:51] <phoenix__> yofel: Is the volume applet available in 15.10 via regular update?
[17:55] <summa> BluesKaj: can you see my messages
[17:56] <BluesKaj> summa: yes
[17:57] <BluesKaj> I saw the one above
[18:00] <summa> BluesKaj: thank you, I thought I had some network issue
[18:01] <BluesKaj> summa:  ok I see the questions you asked as phoenix as well
[18:01] <summa> ya
[18:01] <toams> I just borked my kubuntu install...
[18:02] <summa> BluesKaj: is the new volume applet available in 15.10 via update?
[18:02] <toams> tried the recommended graphics drivers instead of the fgrlx drivers
[18:03] <toams> that didn't work (couldn't change my resolution)
[18:03] <toams> so i went back and now i have no taskbar or desktop
[18:03] <toams> looks like plasma crashed or something
[18:04] <toams> any sugestions?
[18:04] <toams> tried rebooting but that didn't work
[18:05] <BluesKaj> summa:  I have it in 15.10 yes , njo change
[18:06] <BluesKaj> toams:  ctl+alt+F1-F6 , login then update and upgrade or try the recovery kernel in grub
[18:09] <toams> tried ctrl alt F1 before, but didn't work
[18:09] <toams> will try again
[18:10] <knightyyy> 15.10 is on KDE 5.4 beta?
[18:10] <toams> screen stays black, no login prompt
[18:12] <lordievader> knightyyy: Yes.
[18:16] <summa> BluesKaj: I found that I had to install plasma-pa. Installed it and now I have the new volume applet
[18:17] <lordievader> Lets see what the update of today bring.
[18:33] <knightyyy> libreoffice 5.0 is also available on 15.10?
[18:33] <knightyyy> (currently)
[18:39] <yofel> knightyyy: no
[18:39] <yofel> ..
[18:44] <genii> !info libreoffice wily
[18:54] <AEL-H1> I am running kde 4.8.5 on Ubuntu 12.0.4.5 and I am having problems with skype picking up my speakers and microphone, can anyone provide some guidance or help me work out what the issue is? I have very little experience with linux
[19:42] <AEL-H1> How can I change the volume on kde 4.8.5 ubuntu 12.0.4.5
[20:20] <Lucasegurado> hola?
[20:51] <SuPPuSH> hello all been serching for a while and cant find any reference to this issue last night at 520am my kubuntu box started playing sounds out of the speakers with both my wife and i asleep noone in the room would there be a log file somewhere of the process that started the racket last night?
[20:52] <SuPPuSH> standard ksystemlog has nothing going on at 5:23 am except a few automatic reconnections to my wifi
[20:54] <akasic> it was a piano sound?
[20:55] <SuPPuSH> sounded like an electric guitar it could have been a piano it played 7 or 8 times and i got up and muted it by i woke up this morning it had stopped
[20:55] <akasic> have in mind that when the electricity goes, it will sound as ''in batery''
[20:55] <akasic> maybe...
[20:55] <SuPPuSH> desktop
[20:56] <akasic> ok
[20:56] <sebsebseb> hi any freenode staff around?  if so can I have a password reset email sent for this nick thanks
[20:56] <SuPPuSH> shouldnt something have created a log somewhere to access sound hardware?
[20:57] <akasic> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-log-files-location-and-how-do-i-view-logs-files/
[20:58] <SuPPuSH> thanks ill read through it and let ya know
[20:58] <akasic> o, im curious now
[20:58] <akasic> ok
[21:03] <SuPPuSH> im not seeing anything except what i can see in ksystemlog
[21:04] <akasic> ok, i dont know what else help give
[21:04] <akasic> :S
[21:04] <SuPPuSH> haha its ok thanks anyway if i figure it out ill let you know
[21:04] <akasic> ok!
[21:07] <SuPPuSH> worst comes to worst ill have to get up next time and fuser it
[21:18] <marus> hello, is there a tool like disks on kubuntu?
[21:18] <marus> within the default installation?
[21:33] <yossarianuk> marus: yes 'KDE partition editor'
[21:34] <yossarianuk> however gparted also works..
[21:35] <marus> kde partition manager
[21:35] <marus> yes i tought for a quick solution i know i can do it with CLI...
[21:36] <yossarianuk> https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager/
[21:36] <marus> yossarianuk: thanks
[21:36] <yossarianuk> kde partition manager is a GUI tool
[21:36] <marus> yes yes i get it
[21:36] <yossarianuk> however I believe you have more functionality with gparted.
[21:36] <yossarianuk> like software raid, etc
[21:36] <marus> i don't want to install new packages
[21:37] <yossarianuk> its there on a default install
[21:37] <yossarianuk> (at least for 15.10)
[21:38] <marus> yossarianuk: i have 14.04 with no gparted
[21:46] <yossarianuk> marus: sorry, I mean that kde partition manager is there by default
[21:46] <yossarianuk> cant remember if it was on previous installs.
[21:46] <yossarianuk> i think so though
[23:28] <suncokret> what is difference in Kubuntu 14.04.1, Kubuntu 14.04.2 and Kubuntu 14.04.3?
[23:33] <Phoenixz> Doing an upgrade, I lost a bunch of deb files, and with that, loads of functionality. Amongst them, I lost KDE network manager, and I have no clue what package I should install to get that back.. Anybody who might have a clue?
[23:38] <strayPuppy> Phoenixz: probably depends on your distro
[23:39] <strayPuppy> network-manager
[23:42] <strayPuppy> thought I was on #kde, hee
[23:52] <[Relic]> has session saving been fixed in 15.04 yet?  does it properly save where programs are running on each different virtual desktop when you shut down a restart yet?