[03:57] <diddledan> I'm not greedy. I only want "a bit"
[03:57] <daftykins> 0
[03:57] <daftykins> there y'go
[03:57] <diddledan> could have at least made it a 1
[03:58] <daftykins> :(
[04:00] <diddledan> windows got me pulling my hair
[04:00] <diddledan> 260 character limit on paths
[04:00] <diddledan> >.<
[04:00] <daftykins> :D
[04:00] <daftykins> why don't you put things in X:\a\b\c\d\
[04:00] <daftykins> :>
[04:01] <diddledan> ntfs supposedly supports 32k but the win32 api has a constant which says that the max_path is 260
[04:01] <diddledan> makes it a pain when you've got oodles of javascript/nodejs libraries
[04:03] <diddledan> so I've got a path which windows has helpfully shortened already for viewing using their dos-compatible ~1 notation, which looks like:
[04:03] <diddledan> C:\Users\Daniel\web\RLEC\content\themes\rlec2\NODE_M~1\GRUNT-~1\NODE_M~1\OPTIPN~1\NODE_M~1\tar\NODE_M~1\fstream\NODE_M~1\rimraf\NODE_M~1\glob\NODE_M~1\MINIMA~1\NODE_M~1\BRACE-~1\NODE_M~1\CONCAT~1\example
[04:04] <diddledan> that's 9 or 10 nested node_modules folders
[04:04] <daftykins> why don't you start at the root?
[04:05] <diddledan> well it's too long even for that
[04:05] <diddledan> I'm trying to copy it to E:\web
[04:05] <daftykins> but like in general :>
[04:05] <daftykins> those are definitely some horrible paths
[07:45] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:47] <diddledan> m00
[07:49] <MooDoo> :)
[08:22] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:28] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:29] <zmoylan-pi> greetings mammals
[08:29] <daftykins> o/
[08:30] <daftykins> friend of my dads says there are some free office chairs and desks going at a bank nearby 8D
[08:30] <daftykins> no other way around, a friends dad :D
[08:30] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: they could be both :P
[08:31] <daftykins> dun-dun-duuuuuun!
[08:31] <daftykins> :D
[08:31] <bashrc> greetings citizens of the interwebs
[08:32] <davmor2> MooDoo: bit of rock today Europe Final Countdown!
[08:32] <zmoylan-pi> nothing as much fun as getting free furniture from a skip :-)
[08:32] <daftykins> doo da doo doo... da-da-doo-doo-doo ~
[08:33] <MooDoo> :)
[08:33] <davmor2> daftykins: that's the police who sang that you can't blag my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v2GDbEmjGE
[08:33] <zmoylan-pi> when dec shut down office in dublin they dumped a tonne of alpha powered pcs.  a mate filched one on his scooter.  he thought he was extreme till he saw one been pushed home on skateboard :-)
[08:45] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:11] <diplo> Morning all, what do you all use for local dns? so fileserver.local etc to resolve correctly? Do people use bind or something else?
[09:11] <shauno> I usually trust .local to avahi?
[09:13] <diplo> What needs doing to set this up? Never looked at it before, just got to the page now
[09:13] <bashrc> I did get mesh pinging working last night, and it was the firewall that was blocking it
[09:37] <daftykins> wow that office was insane, fancy bank with prime real estate right in the centre of town here. my mates dad is doing the air con so he had access through a back door through the boiler room :D
[09:37] <daftykins> tonnes of desks and chairs all stacked up and rounded up free to grab
[09:38] <daftykins> many heads turned as me and him wheeled a pair through the high street to my place :>
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> a good desk is a nice find
[09:42] <daftykins> ooh yes
[09:43] <daftykins> my current one is 1600 wide by 800 deep, got it for £25 from an office bankruptcy sale
[09:43] <daftykins> auction, even
[09:47] <daftykins> these banks are horrifying, surplus gear and upgrading to brand new stuff because nobody wants to be known for buying second hand gear
[09:48] <daftykins> the College i taught at last had already started getting donated quad core machines when i was there back in 2011
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> daftykins has never tried to convince an accountant to use openoffice over excel :-)
[09:48] <bashrc> I don't mind being known for buying second hand gear. I think it's a good idea to maximise the use of things
[09:48] <daftykins> bashrc: indeed
[09:48] <daftykins> but apparently it's a reputation thing that one bank wouldn't take from another
[09:50] <zmoylan-pi> i would at one time have said 2nd hand is ok... except for mobile devices as they take much more abuse but i have recently gotten a few 2nd hand nokias, they're indestructable
[09:51]  * bashrc has a second hand samsung phone
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> saw a 2nd hand apple watch for sale over weekend... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/633335059790045185/photo/1
[09:58] <daftykins> this is a novel one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141
[10:00] <awilkins> Looks like he wiped his Windows partition
[10:00] <awilkins> Oopsie
[10:01] <daftykins> claims that's just viewing 'something else', weird for the disk to show as blank
[10:41] <daftykins> they sure are in force this morning.
[10:41] <daftykins> trolling Aussies, rubbish users...
[10:45] <DJones> JUst mention "The ashes" to them
[10:57] <MooDoo> DJones: you can't really as they did the same to us on the first day of the womens ashes :(
[10:58] <MooDoo> hmmm maybe i was miss informed
[10:59] <daftykins> MooDoo: wasn't she playing?
[10:59] <daftykins> ;)
[11:05] <MooDoo> :p
[11:44] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117589/ another one bites the dust ~
[11:44] <daftykins> particularly nasty one that o0
[14:25] <diddledan> morning head is Final Countdown?! omg! amazeballs!
[14:25] <daftykins> morning wat?
[14:26] <davmor2> diddledan: indeed
[14:26] <diddledan> daftykins: davmor2's morning-head songs
[14:26] <davmor2> daftykins: morning head songs
[14:27] <davmor2> daftykins: Most morning I wake up with a song in my head, although the last too were complete albums to be fair oxygene and tubular bells
[14:27] <daftykins> oh just something you wake up with playing in your mind?
[14:27] <daftykins> mmm i have a shower one o' those
[14:27] <diddledan> tubular bells is epic
[14:28] <daftykins> i don't think i've ever sampled
[14:28] <popey> i woke up this morning at 5am after having an odd dream about driving my family on a trip. My sister and I had a massive argument in the dream and I woke up.
[14:28] <zmoylan-pi> and oxygene is incredible for an album made without a synthisizer
[14:28] <popey> I went back to sleep to finish off the argument it was so much fun!
[14:29] <diddledan> I don't know oxygene
[14:29]  * diddledan googles
[14:29] <MooDoo> i woke up the other day and the misses was really mad at me, she wouldn't speak to me, apparently i wasn't nice to her in her dreams.
[14:29] <popey> \o/ dreams
[14:29] <diddledan> MooDoo: lol
[14:29] <daftykins> aww i never get to resume the fun ones
[14:30] <diddledan> I hate when you wake up mid-dream and hope you can continue when you fall asleep again only for it to go off rather weirdly
[14:30] <daftykins> MooDoo: that doesn't sound very reasonable :(
[14:30] <MooDoo> daftykins: well it happens :D
[14:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: then you woke up, and she was really mad at you and wouldn't speak to you...
[14:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: no i got the cold shoulder all day lol
[14:31] <daftykins> daym
[14:31] <daftykins> you should record yourself and find out what you do :P
[14:32] <davmor2> daftykins: sings Sam Fox songs in his sleep
[14:32] <daftykins> i don't know that name :>
[14:32] <davmor2> Man
[14:32] <daftykins> perhaps there's a chalkboard under his side of the bed and he runs his fingernails down it
[14:33] <davmor2> daftykins: Oh so you have heard Sam Fox then
[14:33] <davmor2> :D
[14:34] <daftykins> by extension XD
[14:37] <davmor2> daftykins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD33AxebRAg
[14:40] <davmor2> daftykins: http://open.spotify.com/user/1142386698/playlist/2nlSxBLEbfKpvDqSDG8hP8 incase you want to listen along
[16:30]  * diddledan_ listens to the podcast
[16:46] <diddledan_> seriously windows defrag is opaque - it's been running on this system since about 3am when I clicked "GO" and it's now onto "Pass 42"
[16:49] <bashrc> windows defrag is evil
[16:51] <shauno> just buy an ssd instead :)
[16:52] <daftykins> lol 42
[16:52] <daftykins> i've never seen it go beyond about 8
[16:52] <daftykins> your disk must have been organised by Oracle project management
[16:56] <diddledan_> aah it's finished
[17:48] <popey> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nipper/the-nipper-the-worlds-smallest-phone-charger
[17:50] <diddledan_> lol
[17:57] <daftykins> love the way Apple are the only ones not working ;)
[18:00] <awilkins> A shame they legislated on the phone charger hole before USB-C was around
[18:00] <awilkins> But glad they did anyway
[18:01] <awilkins> USB-C is of course our saviour for every form of connectivity that needs 100W of power or less
[18:01] <awilkins> Charge your laptop? USB-C. Connect to your high-end DV camera? USB-C thunderbolt cable
[18:01] <daftykins> i don't think that'll come to most laptops
[18:02] <awilkins> What, USB-C as the charge port?
[18:02] <awilkins> Or USB-C at all?
[18:03] <daftykins> providing 100W in most implementations
[18:04] <daftykins> and so having the proper charging feature
[18:04] <awilkins> Oh heckins no, not providing it
[18:04] <daftykins> i don't think i worded that too well :>
[18:04] <awilkins> Maybe lots of USB-C powered hubs with a honking great kettle lead in them :-)
[19:07] <directhex> how wasteful is that? churning through AA batteries?
[19:12] <shauno> who still has AA batteries?
[19:12] <shauno> I mean, besides robbing them from the telly remote, which would be an unpopular way to charge your phone
[19:20] <davmor2> shauno: I do
[19:20] <davmor2> shauno: I have aaa too and c d and 9v too
[19:21] <shauno> aha.  I know who to visit next time my smoke detector starts whining then :)
[19:22] <shauno> I have just enough rechargable AA's for my camera's flash, but can never seem to find them all at the same time :/
[19:26] <davmor2> shauno: well the 9v is at the caravan for smoke alarm there :)
[19:28] <zmoylan-pi> go get some lithium aa batteries, they last yonks
[19:36] <shauno> still seems quite inefficient
[19:37] <shauno> 3000mAh for "energizer ultimate lithium".  which'll act like 1800mAh once they've boosted 3v to 5v (if their booster is 100% efficient).
[19:38] <davmor2> shauno: well remember that you are just a battery enslaved and used by a machine army to stay alive because we burnt the skies to kill their energy source
[19:38] <shauno> my phone's 1440mah, and that's one of the smaller apple ones
[19:39] <shauno> so a pair of those nice expensive lithium non-rechargables will charge my phone once
[19:48] <popey> It's an emergency charger
[19:49] <popey> It's not intended to be for regular use.
[19:51] <zmoylan-pi> there are a few chargers that will give an iphone a few extra hours with 2 aa duracells in them
[19:54] <popey> I have loads of AAs, kids with toys means AAs all over the house.
[19:55] <zmoylan-pi> how many of the toys are yours? :-)
[20:25] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: all of the Kids plus his so 100% ish