[01:52] <cmaloney> Just had a nice little power outage here
[02:04] <_stink_> all those A/C units kicking on
[02:11] <greg-g> it was 100 in Petaluma today
[02:11] <greg-g> 103 yesterday
[02:12] <rick_h_> ugh
[02:12] <rick_h_> hot sucks, bring on fall/winter
[02:23] <greg-g> I kinda like it, but it does get old after a while (and makes people cranky)
[13:45] <cscheib> rick_h_: fall, maybe... winter, no.
[13:45] <rick_h_> booo! bring on the snow!
[13:45] <rick_h_> though I'll miss fishing night once winter comes
[13:54] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:55] <cmaloney> rick_h_: We'll miss vicarious-fishing. ;)
[13:56] <rick_h_> cmaloney: hat came mount arriving tomorrow :)
[13:56] <rick_h_> camera
[14:02] <cmaloney> Steady cam coming soon? :)
[14:02] <rick_h_> naw, loses something of the gritty quality :P
[14:19] <brousch> rick_h_: ice fishing
[15:20] <cmaloney> brousch: shush
[15:21] <greg-g> slush
[15:25] <brousch> greg-g++
[15:25] <cmaloney> heh
[15:33] <greg-g> :)
[15:36] <rick_h_> no ice fishing, I like fishing because i'm outside in nice weather :)
[15:39] <greg-g> but beer! getting away from family! that's the entire point of fishing right?
[15:40] <rick_h_> ummm no, it's sitting in a kayak on a calm body of water with egrets, swans, hawks, and some fishing coming around :)
[15:40] <brousch> I thought it was to get cheap seafood
[15:40] <rick_h_> though yes, without the 5yr old adds to the peaceful factor
[15:40] <rick_h_> no, not cheap
[15:40] <rick_h_> kayak + rods/reels + baits + pfd + ...
[15:40] <cmaloney> As opposed to freezing ass off sitting in a shanty around a hole hoping you're not generating enough heat to melt the ice
[15:40] <brousch> fresh?
[15:41] <rick_h_> cmaloney: umm yea, not really the reasons I got fishing
[15:41] <cmaloney> My godfather did ice fishing. I was out there at a young age wondering what the appeal was
[15:42] <greg-g> I actually kind of like non-shanty ice fishing
[15:42] <brousch> A guy at work brings a small apartment onto the ice and camps in it for a week
[15:42] <greg-g> it's an excuse to get on the ice and chill
[15:42] <greg-g> (no pun intended, but I"ll take it)
[15:44] <rick_h_> I'd rather relax at home, with the fireplace, and power
[15:45] <greg-g> oh, the home with fireplace after being on the ice is even better!
[15:45] <rick_h_> :)
[15:45] <greg-g> my grandparents lived on a lake in northern WI, loved it up there year round
[15:45] <greg-g> wish my uncles/aunts wouldn't have sold it
[17:13] <cmaloney> http://www.enricozini.org/2015/debian/standup-comedy-notes/ <- greg-g This is good stuff (slightly NSFW)
[17:13] <cmaloney> greg-g: Thanks for sharing that on identi.ca
[19:46] <jcastro> http://searchengineland.com/wikipedia-confirms-they-are-steadily-losing-google-traffic-228237
[19:46] <jcastro> greg-g: ^^ I've been noticing that for a while now
[19:46] <jcastro> it's like the wikipedia results are coming up lower and lower
[20:20] <greg-g> jcastro: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108895
[20:21] <greg-g> https://github.com/wikimedia-research/memo/blob/master/report.pdf
[20:21] <greg-g> also, who the fuck trusts searchengineland?
[20:21] <greg-g> they are the worst
[20:21] <greg-g> but, yeah, stupid knowledge graph
[20:21] <greg-g> I don't konw the numbers too well
[20:22] <jcastro> I don't care much about searchengine land
[20:22] <jcastro> I'm just saying I notice that wikipedia results are now usually half way down the page
[20:22] <jcastro> instead of the usual top
[20:22] <greg-g> yeah :/
[20:22] <greg-g> I think?
[20:22] <jcastro> or, google just scrapes the info and presents it to me
[20:22] <greg-g> they do a lot more than that, but yeah :)
[20:22] <greg-g> they scrap and all in their own info etc to make that "knowledge graph" thing
[20:22] <jcastro> they do enough to make me not click through
[20:23] <jcastro> which I suspects hurts in the long run
[20:23] <greg-g> yup
[20:23] <greg-g> readers -> light editors -> heavy editors
[20:23] <greg-g> we're also losing active editors
[20:24] <jcastro> I've never really edited
[20:24] <jcastro> I am not expert enough in one thing to contribute anything, mostly I consume
[20:25] <greg-g> word, most editors start out with typo/grammar fixes
[20:44] <cmaloney> I've done a handful of edits
[20:46] <cmaloney> my biggest deterrent to editing is stepping into some flame-war between editors
[20:54] <greg-g> yup, it sucks
[21:04] <jcastro> http://www.theonion.com/article/jeff-bezos-assures-amazon-employees-hr-working-100-51121
[21:04] <jcastro> cmaloney: yea, it's like stepping into a bunch of linux geeks arguing about something
[21:04] <jcastro> aka, I don't want to be there
[21:06] <wolfger> KDE rules! Gnome drools! :-p
[21:09] <cmaloney> Or worse: editing something on a page that has little noteriety
[21:10] <cmaloney> for fear that the added attention will get the information that's there yanked
[21:12] <jcastro> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/08/socially-controversial-science-topics-on-wikipedia-draw-edit-wars/
[21:12] <jcastro> just ran into this
[21:13] <jcastro> creepy coincidence feeling