| === GnikLlort_ is now known as GnikLlort | ||
| Kilos | morning all | 05:38 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | oh and inetpro | 05:38 |
| pieter2627 | morning all | 05:46 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 \ | 05:56 |
| stickyboy | Oh, guten morgen, y'all. | 06:06 |
| Kilos | zehr gut | 06:07 |
| stickyboy | :P | 06:08 |
| stickyboy | I don't speak German. :( | 06:08 |
| Kilos | :D | 06:08 |
| Kilos | i forget spelling | 06:08 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Do you prefer white or red wine? | 06:08 |
| Kilos | i donk drink anymore stickyboy stopped maybe 30 years ago | 06:09 |
| Kilos | i enjoyed old brown sherry back then | 06:09 |
| Kilos | especially in winter | 06:10 |
| Kilos | or a sweet hanepoot | 06:10 |
| Kilos | i was a bacardi drinker | 06:10 |
| stickyboy | Ah. | 06:11 |
| stickyboy | Did they have Bacardi 30 years ago? | 06:11 |
| Kilos | no then it was redheart days | 06:11 |
| Kilos | and old nick and the captain | 06:11 |
| stickyboy | I didn't drink for 30 years. :) | 06:12 |
| stickyboy | (until I was 30) | 06:12 |
| Kilos | when i found bacardi i switched | 06:12 |
| stickyboy | Now I like dry red wine. | 06:12 |
| Kilos | red wine is supposed to be healthy if you dont overdo it | 06:12 |
| stickyboy | Yeah | 06:13 |
| stickyboy | I basically only drink red wine, coffee, and water. | 06:13 |
| stickyboy | :) | 06:13 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:13 |
| Kilos | dry wine is hard to drink | 06:13 |
| Kilos | whew | 06:14 |
| Kilos | any dry wine is | 06:14 |
| stickyboy | We drink a lot of South African wine here in Kenya. | 06:15 |
| stickyboy | But it's expensive, and from wineries you'd never go to in SA. ;) | 06:15 |
| stickyboy | Instead of $5, it's $10. | 06:15 |
| Kilos | whew | 06:16 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Have you, at any time in your adult life, yelled at youngsters to "get off your lawn"? | 06:18 |
| Kilos | lolol | 06:18 |
| Kilos | no i think lawn is made to play on, not just look good | 06:19 |
| stickyboy | ;) | 06:19 |
| Kilos | and it just keeps growing anywhy so why get upset over nothing | 06:20 |
| Kilos | anyway | 06:20 |
| === qwebirc87662 is now known as Padroni | ||
| Kilos | hi Padroni | 06:21 |
| Padroni | Morning guys | 06:21 |
| Kilos | where you been man | 06:22 |
| Padroni | Had a thing at work that took all my attention for a couple of weeks | 06:22 |
| Kilos | whew | 06:22 |
| Padroni | also been having endless issues with Afrihost / Internet | 06:22 |
| Padroni | I'm ready to give up on the internet completely | 06:22 |
| Kilos | ai! | 06:22 |
| Padroni | move to Durka-durkastan and herd goats. | 06:22 |
| Kilos | hahahaha | 06:23 |
| Padroni | maybe buy a Noka 2110 when I sell my iPhone and Huawei P7 | 06:23 |
| Padroni | I can get at least 4 goats for that iPhone | 06:23 |
| stickyboy | ... | 06:23 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:23 |
| Padroni | 4 goats = a herd | 06:23 |
| Padroni | small, but still | 06:23 |
| Kilos | thery breed fast | 06:24 |
| Padroni | I hope so | 06:24 |
| stickyboy | Padroni: Try Kyrgyzstan | 06:24 |
| stickyboy | Padroni: "The Switzerland of Central Asia" | 06:24 |
| Kilos | 1 ram and 3 ewes | 06:24 |
| Padroni | As long as it is somewhere that is hard to pronounce, stickyboy | 06:24 |
| Padroni | Kyrgyzstan sounds perfect. | 06:24 |
| thatgraemeguy | moo | 06:25 |
| stickyboy | Padroni: I know what you mean. | 06:25 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy | 06:25 |
| Padroni | hi thatgraemeguy | 06:25 |
| thatgraemeguy | greetings and salutations | 06:26 |
| Padroni | superfly you here? | 06:29 |
| Padroni | https://123net.co.za/en/front/forms/home/ | 06:38 |
| Padroni | Sign up there to help get Fibre to your area. | 06:38 |
| Padroni | up to 5mb fibre line free, anything higher you pay for. | 06:38 |
| superfly | Padroni: hi! | 06:49 |
| barrydk | Morning everyone | 06:53 |
| stickyboy | Whaaaat. | 06:55 |
| stickyboy | Nothing in life is free. | 06:55 |
| Padroni | hey superfly | 07:02 |
| Padroni | waiting for your mail, dude | 07:03 |
| stickyboy | Anyone read HackerNews? | 07:06 |
| stickyboy | https://news.ycombinator.com/ | 07:07 |
| Padroni | I do | 07:15 |
| Padroni | why? | 07:15 |
| Kilos | hi TinuvaMac | 07:20 |
| TinuvaMac | top of the morning to you too Kilos | 07:21 |
| Kilos | ty sir you too | 07:21 |
| Padroni | hi TinuvaMac | 07:23 |
| stickyboy | Padroni: It's just good to see when security issues get dropped. ;) | 07:23 |
| stickyboy | I like when people post things about typography (fonts, layout, etc). | 07:30 |
| thatgraemeguy | start saving up: http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/11732/sixteen-terabytes-samsung-release-16tb-ssd-next-year | 07:33 |
| Kilos | nice hey? | 07:36 |
| thatgraemeguy | yeah, and pretty historic, that'll be the first time an SSD is bigger than the biggest conventional HDD | 07:38 |
| MaNI | great, I'll sell a few of my private jets to buy one | 07:39 |
| Kilos | wat se MaNI vanoddend | 07:40 |
| Kilos | vanoggend | 07:40 |
| Kilos | must be going blinder | 07:41 |
| stickyboy | SSD hehe | 07:44 |
| MaNI | now much :p | 07:44 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: What is your opinion on Socialism? | 07:44 |
| Kilos | haha | 07:45 |
| Kilos | i dont have opinions about that i dont think | 07:45 |
| Kilos | all mans funny things are the same | 07:45 |
| Kilos | different names but same power hungry peeps up top | 07:46 |
| Kilos | the world is a beautiful place, only peeps mess it up | 07:47 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Sane opinion. :) | 07:47 |
| inetpro | good morings | 08:02 |
| Kilos | hi there inetpro | 08:02 |
| Padroni | Hi inetpro | 08:02 |
| Padroni | Our company's first linux-based computer went live today | 08:02 |
| Padroni | running Mint | 08:02 |
| inetpro | oh heh Padroni | 08:02 |
| inetpro | long time no see | 08:02 |
| Padroni | which in itself may not sound like a big deal | 08:02 |
| Padroni | but my boss is a Apple-fanboy so this was a hard sell. | 08:03 |
| Padroni | he gave in and now we switching from Mac to Ubuntu / Mint | 08:03 |
| Padroni | hey man how are you? | 08:03 |
| Kilos | Padroni thats great news man | 08:03 |
| inetpro | good, good | 08:03 |
| Padroni | I switched to Ubuntu long ago already. | 08:03 |
| Padroni | Refused to work on the Mac so they took mine back. | 08:04 |
| inetpro | hmm... so it's the 2nd linux based computer really | 08:04 |
| Padroni | yeah but for me there's no comparison between OSX and Linux | 08:04 |
| inetpro | how big is the company? | 08:04 |
| Padroni | I'll take real linux any day | 08:04 |
| Padroni | in terms of personnel, not that big | 08:05 |
| Padroni | in terms of ego : we're a fortune 500 | 08:05 |
| Padroni | at least the support department is. | 08:05 |
| inetpro | what is the goal in terms of how many desktops to switch over? | 08:06 |
| inetpro | in what period | 08:06 |
| Padroni | for some reason tech support people come with a god-complex | 08:06 |
| Padroni | there is no goal | 08:06 |
| Padroni | we are just not buying any more Mac's | 08:06 |
| inetpro | ai! :-) | 08:06 |
| Padroni | so as they break, they are replaced by Linux machines | 08:06 |
| Padroni | and trust me, they break | 08:06 |
| Kilos | good | 08:06 |
| inetpro | cool | 08:06 |
| Padroni | Mac = R18k | 08:06 |
| Padroni | We can build 2 pc's with the same spec for that price | 08:07 |
| Padroni | and run linux on them | 08:07 |
| Padroni | same thing | 08:07 |
| Padroni | better OS | 08:07 |
| inetpro | way to go! | 08:07 |
| MaNI | I will never understand what people like about apple computers | 08:07 |
| stickyboy | MaNI: Have you ever used one? | 08:08 |
| MaNI | windows I can get to a point | 08:08 |
| Padroni | so my manager asked me a couple of weeks ago 'Which linux do you think we should use on the new machines?' | 08:08 |
| MaNI | stickyboy, yes. I have to develop for them quite often | 08:08 |
| stickyboy | Ok. :) | 08:08 |
| MaNI | also the worst OS to develop for | 08:08 |
| MaNI | can't stand it | 08:08 |
| Padroni | "I don't care, as long as it is either Ubuntu or Linux Mint.' | 08:08 |
| Padroni | they went with Mint | 08:08 |
| stickyboy | Well the font rendering is amazing on Mac OS X, not to mention the hi-DPI screen. | 08:08 |
| Padroni | yeah look Mac is pretty and you get what you pay for | 08:09 |
| Padroni | but I am just not a fan of it anymore. | 08:09 |
| Padroni | Used to be quite into it as well. | 08:09 |
| Padroni | Windows -> Mac -> Ubuntu | 08:09 |
| Padroni | that was my evolution tree in pc's. | 08:09 |
| stickyboy | Padroni: I basically use my Mac as a Linux console. | 08:10 |
| stickyboy | To be fair, I install GNU coreutils, GNU find utils, tmux, irssi, zsh, etc. | 08:10 |
| Padroni | mine was to impress people when they come into my office. | 08:10 |
| stickyboy | And SSH to my Linux servers. | 08:10 |
| inetpro | did you guys see the IBM / Canonical announcement? | 08:10 |
| Padroni | I dusted it off once a week but never put it on | 08:10 |
| inetpro | who would have imagined mainframes running on Ubuntu? | 08:11 |
| Padroni | I saw that | 08:11 |
| stickyboy | inetpro: hehehe | 08:11 |
| Padroni | inevitable, I guess? | 08:11 |
| stickyboy | Linux ftw | 08:16 |
| Padroni | Just got my Edgars statement. | 08:17 |
| Padroni | My balance outstanding is R0.57- | 08:17 |
| Padroni | So | 08:17 |
| Padroni | I am invoicing them for R0.57 today. | 08:17 |
| Padroni | Which they won't pay | 08:17 |
| Padroni | and after 55 days I am having them blacklisted. | 08:17 |
| Padroni | Because Jihad works both ways. | 08:18 |
| stickyboy | Damn 'them'. | 08:18 |
| Padroni | Afrihost has this thing | 08:19 |
| Padroni | where you can ping yourusername@afrihost.co.za to get your external IP | 08:19 |
| Padroni | anyone know of another ISP that has the same setup / function ? | 08:19 |
| stickyboy | Padroni: Wow that's cool haha. | 08:21 |
| Padroni | If you can, watch the trailer to the new Leon Schuster movie. | 08:27 |
| Padroni | That lady at the end smacks the black out of Leon | 08:27 |
| MaNI | Charge them 20% interest on that R0.57 | 08:28 |
| MaNI | and R50 a month admin fee | 08:28 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 08:28 |
| inetpro | nice way to make money | 08:28 |
| inetpro | clearly we're in the wrong business | 08:29 |
| Padroni | https://youtu.be/i59__qZDR4k | 08:30 |
| Padroni | We are all IT people on here | 08:35 |
| Padroni | in some form or another. | 08:35 |
| Padroni | If we pool our resources, we can start quite the formidable IT company | 08:35 |
| * inetpro loves how developers keep coming up with interesting application names | 08:41 | |
| inetpro | see: aptitude show pollinate | 08:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:42 |
| inetpro | very creative | 08:43 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 | 08:46 |
| magespawn | good morning | 09:27 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 09:28 |
| magespawn | hey, did you come right with that laptop | 09:29 |
| magespawn | ? | 09:29 |
| Kilos | na gave up, will plug a modem into it when i have the energy | 09:29 |
| === dawd is now known as GnikLlort | ||
| Kilos | haha he is a dawd not a dude | 09:30 |
| magespawn | cool beans, if you need some help let me know | 09:30 |
| Kilos | ty magespawn | 09:30 |
| linda | Hi Kilos | 12:47 |
| Kilos | hi linda | 12:47 |
| linda | This is really Linda Hi | 12:48 |
| Kilos | or jan posing as linda? | 12:48 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 12:48 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 12:48 |
| linda | hi Kilos | 13:01 |
| linda | that was linda for real, I'm with her now | 13:01 |
| Kilos- | i know man | 13:01 |
| Kilos- | thats why i said welcome | 13:02 |
| linda | why dont you give her a hug? | 13:02 |
| Kilos- | you know you are welcome | 13:02 |
| Kilos- | ((((hug))))) | 13:02 |
| linda | thks | 13:02 |
| linda | you make my day! | 13:03 |
| Kilos- | good | 13:03 |
| linda | Kilos-, I have activated linda 's email, will contact inetpro tonite to load messages | 13:04 |
| Kilos- | well done | 13:04 |
| Kilos- | anyway now that lappy is safer | 13:05 |
| Kilos- | oh | 13:05 |
| linda | The idiots at vodacom registered her email on her cell no instead of her email addes, made me battle | 13:05 |
| Kilos- | sudo aptitude install gufw | 13:05 |
| Kilos- | thats a graphic firewall | 13:06 |
| Kilos- | then you turn it on and allow all outgoing and deny incoming | 13:07 |
| Kilos- | should be set like that by default | 13:07 |
| linda | command not found | 13:08 |
| linda | Kilos-, something else pse | 13:08 |
| Kilos- | yes? | 13:08 |
| linda | a cd keeps coming up with some windows exe files on it, but theres no cd in tthe drive. how do I delete it? Files wont delete | 13:09 |
| Kilos- | oh my | 13:09 |
| linda | not serious, just irritating | 13:10 |
| Kilos- | isnt that the cd thing in the modem | 13:11 |
| linda | no | 13:12 |
| linda | no modem, only a dongle | 13:12 |
| Kilos- | one of the youngsters will know | 13:12 |
| Kilos- | 3g dongle? | 13:12 |
| linda | dunno if its 3g, vodacom internet | 13:13 |
| Kilos- | thats a usb modem | 13:14 |
| linda | hspa | 13:14 |
| linda | correct | 13:14 |
| Kilos- | and they have cd stuff in them | 13:14 |
| linda | no space for cd | 13:14 |
| linda | no this started when I inserted cd's to boot from | 13:15 |
| linda | it shows af if theres a cd in the drive, in the luncher | 13:15 |
| linda | launcher | 13:15 |
| Kilos- | oh | 13:16 |
| Kilos- | right click | 13:16 |
| Kilos- | remove | 13:16 |
| stickyboy | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/135336-internet-censorship-bill-for-south-africa-has-been-approved.html | 14:34 |
| stickyboy | "Internet censorship bill for South Africa has been approved by cabinet" | 14:34 |
| * stickyboy facepalms | 14:34 | |
| === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn | ||
| === thatgraemeguy is now known as Guest84289 | ||
| magespawn | good evening | 16:19 |
| Langjan | Hi all | 17:11 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 17:23 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos | 17:24 |
| Langjan | Als wel? | 17:24 |
| Kilos | did you fix it | 17:24 |
| Kilos | i removed all the office stuff that way | 17:24 |
| Langjan | which way? | 17:25 |
| Langjan | thought you were referring to Lindas email issue | 17:25 |
| Kilos | right click on the launcher and choose removce | 17:25 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:25 |
| Kilos | you see all the office stuff in launcher | 17:26 |
| Langjan | It only gives unlock, then comes back but thats not an issue, first priority os to sort her emails | 17:26 |
| Kilos | what you dont use rtight click it and remove from launcher | 17:26 |
| Kilos | mails i cant help with sorry | 17:27 |
| Langjan | has inetpro clocked in? | 17:27 |
| Kilos | not yet | 17:27 |
| Kilos | he first has family time | 17:28 |
| Langjan | Will he be in - do you know? Then I can fetch the lappie meanwhile | 17:28 |
| Langjan | OK thats very good and important | 17:28 |
| Kilos | he should | 17:28 |
| magespawn | he is always here at some point | 17:29 |
| Squirm | 'lo | 17:31 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 17:34 |
| magespawn | looks like the big guns are getting it on with linux http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ibm-linuxone-mainframe-ubuntu-partnership | 17:34 |
| Kilos | just read about the prob in the list Langjan not same thing im thinking of doing | 17:34 |
| Kilos | sorry | 17:34 |
| magespawn | brbr | 17:49 |
| magespawn | back | 18:00 |
| Kilos | hi | 18:00 |
| inetpro | guten abend | 18:05 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ehlo | 18:05 |
| Kilos | technology is gonna kill me | 18:05 |
| Langjan | hi inetpro did you have a good family time? | 18:06 |
| inetpro | did you see the parrot that got arrested over 'abusing' elderly lady in India? | 18:06 |
| Kilos | xperia now decided im japoanese | 18:06 |
| Kilos | ya hahah | 18:06 |
| Langjan | I saw that, lmga | 18:06 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:06 |
| inetpro | hi oom Langjan | 18:06 |
| Langjan | all well inetpro ? | 18:07 |
| inetpro | oom Kilos don't let the technology get to you | 18:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:07 |
| inetpro | oom Langjan, all good thanks... just tired | 18:07 |
| Langjan | Did you see the technology detox clinic? | 18:08 |
| inetpro | I see I'm a wanted man again? | 18:08 |
| Langjan | Always, thats the penalty for being a pro | 18:08 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:08 |
| Kilos | when youre good you must expect to help more | 18:09 |
| Langjan | I have activated tbird and deactivated the mail download settings | 18:09 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:09 |
| Langjan | what does ai in this contex mean? Did I do wrong? | 18:09 |
| inetpro | Langjan: and did you attempt any of what I said? | 18:10 |
| Langjan | You just said I must start tbird and not download any mail, I did that | 18:10 |
| * inetpro is known to say ai for just about anything here | 18:11 | |
| Langjan | in default | 18:11 |
| inetpro | 08/17 20:31:26 <inetpro> linda: ok, here's what I'm thinking | 18:11 |
| inetpro | 08/17 20:31:26 <inetpro> can you please start thunderbird with the default profile and set up her mail account from scratch | 18:11 |
| inetpro | 08/17 20:31:26 <inetpro> then once that is done we move the files in the Mail folder to the newly created profile | 18:11 |
| Langjan | ok connecting linda | 18:11 |
| inetpro | does it make saense what I said last night? | 18:12 |
| inetpro | sense as well | 18:12 |
| Langjan | by the way, she did have an address book | 18:12 |
| Langjan | absolutely | 18:12 |
| Langjan | seanse and sense | 18:12 |
| Langjan | but I have not tried to move any files | 18:13 |
| inetpro | so let's look at what we have now compared to last night | 18:13 |
| Langjan | well, we have a working thunderbird | 18:15 |
| inetpro | find .thunderbird/ -ls | pastebinit -a Langjan | 18:15 |
| inetpro | last night we had this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12110448/ | 18:15 |
| Langjan | ok just a sec | 18:15 |
| linda_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119721/ | 18:16 |
| inetpro | cool | 18:17 |
| inetpro | so we now have thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za | 18:18 |
| inetpro | which was not there last night | 18:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: does he know the word 'cool' yet? | 18:18 |
| Kilos | hahaha i dont know | 18:18 |
| inetpro | :-) | 18:18 |
| Kilos | he has young grandkids so must i suppose | 18:19 |
| Kilos | oh and an idiot box | 18:19 |
| Langjan | All I know is its cool when its hot | 18:20 |
| Kilos- | nee man toppie | 18:20 |
| Kilos- | cool is the modern word for good, fine, grand, exciting etc | 18:21 |
| Langjan | and hot | 18:21 |
| inetpro | so oom Langjan if you could now, while not having started Thunderbird, replace those files inside the new pop3.vodamail.co.za folder with the ones inside the old pop3.vodamail.co-4.za folder we should be in business | 18:21 |
| inetpro | in other words | 18:22 |
| inetpro | rm -rf .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/* | 18:22 |
| inetpro | and then | 18:22 |
| inetpro | cp -pr .thunderbird/linda/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co-4.za/* .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/ | 18:23 |
| inetpro | and then start Thunderbird | 18:24 |
| inetpro | thunderbird -p | 18:24 |
| inetpro | select the default profile start it in offline mode just for testing first | 18:25 |
| Langjan | ok - thunderbird is already in the launcher, must I quit it altogether? | 18:25 |
| inetpro | have you copied yet? | 18:25 |
| Langjan | before sterting - no not yet | 18:25 |
| inetpro | well, you need to make sure that it is not running | 18:26 |
| Langjan | Its in the launcher (locked) but not running | 18:26 |
| Langjan | locked to launcher | 18:27 |
| inetpro | but hang on a sec | 18:27 |
| inetpro | I see that a file like Inbox.msf is not empty | 18:27 |
| inetpro | you sure you didn't download emails yet? | 18:27 |
| inetpro | to make sure that thunderbird is not running do a ps listing | 18:28 |
| inetpro | ps -ef | grep thunderbird | 18:28 |
| Langjan | Not that I am aware of I just sent an email to myself to test if its working | 18:28 |
| inetpro | and did it work? | 18:28 |
| linda_ | linda 2354 2331 0 20:29 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird | 18:29 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:29 |
| inetpro | ok, seems if that is the only line then there's no other running thinderbird process | 18:29 |
| Langjan | yes that was all | 18:30 |
| inetpro | question is, whether you are happy to clear the pop3.vodamail.co.za folder | 18:30 |
| inetpro | ? | 18:30 |
| Langjan | What does that imply? | 18:31 |
| inetpro | just means it will remove what you created when setting up the mailbox | 18:31 |
| inetpro | if there's nothing in it it should recreate new files | 18:32 |
| Langjan | So I will just have to set it up again? | 18:32 |
| inetpro | worst case yes | 18:32 |
| inetpro | but we want to put back the old stuff | 18:32 |
| inetpro | teh configs are not in the Mail folder | 18:32 |
| inetpro | the* | 18:32 |
| Langjan | should not be a problem | 18:32 |
| inetpro | it's just mail | 18:33 |
| Kilos- | lol | 18:33 |
| inetpro | not femail | 18:34 |
| Kilos- | lolol | 18:34 |
| Langjan | Lmga, I dont think there can be anything of importance in there | 18:34 |
| inetpro | any other questions? :-) | 18:35 |
| inetpro | should be clear as mud | 18:35 |
| Langjan | Yes, what to do now... | 18:35 |
| Langjan | ai | 18:35 |
| Langjan | now I'm doing it | 18:35 |
| inetpro | rm -rf .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/* | 18:36 |
| inetpro | cp -pr .thunderbird/linda/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co-4.za/* .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/ | 18:36 |
| inetpro | those two commands will do it all for you | 18:36 |
| inetpro | first one is to remove everything inside the newly created pop3.vodamail.co.za folder | 18:37 |
| Langjan | now you have me exited - cool | 18:37 |
| Kilos- | lol | 18:37 |
| Langjan | axcited | 18:37 |
| inetpro | simple stuff if you think about it | 18:37 |
| Langjan | excited, cant even spell | 18:37 |
| inetpro | simple stuff if it works as well :-) | 18:38 |
| Langjan | like flying a Boeing blindfolded and untrained | 18:38 |
| inetpro | but I see no reason why it won't | 18:38 |
| Langjan | so now thunderbird -p? | 18:38 |
| inetpro | yep | 18:39 |
| Langjan | and default | 18:39 |
| Langjan | profile | 18:39 |
| inetpro | and offline | 18:39 |
| inetpro | and start | 18:39 |
| Langjan | offline? | 18:39 |
| Langjan | must I disconnect the Internet line? | 18:39 |
| inetpro | haha | 18:39 |
| inetpro | you are really worried? | 18:40 |
| inetpro | offline should be fine | 18:40 |
| Langjan | yes, no mistakes allowed | 18:40 |
| inetpro | it will ask before going online | 18:40 |
| Langjan | you mean the machine, not just thunderbird? | 18:41 |
| inetpro | thunderbird has the option to start in offline mode | 18:41 |
| Langjan | so I will see that when I run thunderbird -p? | 18:42 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:42 |
| * inetpro thought he has done it | 18:42 | |
| inetpro | already | 18:42 |
| Langjan | sorry, no | 18:42 |
| inetpro | just do it! | 18:42 |
| Langjan | ok | 18:43 |
| Kilos- | lol | 18:43 |
| Kilos- | haqhaha | 18:43 |
| Kilos- | this is fun | 18:43 |
| Langjan | you are a wizard! | 18:44 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:44 |
| Kilos- | he is mrfixit | 18:44 |
| Langjan | Even the shit is there | 18:44 |
| * inetpro stands on the shoulders of all the other wizards | 18:44 | |
| Kilos- | lolol | 18:44 |
| Langjan | scuse my lingo | 18:44 |
| Kilos- | see oom jan i told you he is the thunderbird master | 18:45 |
| inetpro | this is why I choose Thunderbird, it's easy to troubleshoot | 18:45 |
| inetpro | and it just works on all platforms | 18:45 |
| Langjan | there are two files that came along when I migrated het files from outlook to tbird that I cannot delete, they keep coming back | 18:46 |
| inetpro | here or there small challenges but if you understand how it works you can fix it yourself | 18:46 |
| Langjan | Frankly I did not believe it will happen, sorry!!!! | 18:46 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 18:48 |
| Kilos- | you dont know my pro | 18:48 |
| inetpro | Langjan: what files? | 18:48 |
| Langjan | now I do | 18:48 |
| Langjan | well looks like they can be deleted in Ubuntu, I have just done that. If they come back again I will worry you once more, they are folders | 18:49 |
| Langjan | with funny long titles | 18:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: oh come on! There's many things I don't know... in fact I still learn new thing every day | 18:50 |
| Kilos- | yes | 18:50 |
| Langjan | its only those that think they know everything that no not learn anything | 18:51 |
| Kilos- | but normally what you dont know you dont need anyway | 18:51 |
| inetpro | haha | 18:51 |
| inetpro | Langjan: now you need to clean up all the mess | 18:51 |
| Langjan | Hey inetpro I must thank you very very much for your patience with me. Where are you located? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | heh, you're welcome | 18:52 |
| Langjan | Where are you located? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | as in the city? | 18:52 |
| inetpro | Pretoria | 18:52 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:53 |
| Kilos- | near you Langjan | 18:53 |
| inetpro | oom Kilos has a good idea where I stay | 18:53 |
| Langjan | ok, please let me have your contact number? | 18:53 |
| Langjan | Which suburb? | 18:53 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:53 |
| Kilos- | lol | 18:53 |
| Kilos- | daar bo op die berg | 18:53 |
| Langjan | watter een? | 18:54 |
| inetpro | Langjan: what irc client are you using? | 18:55 |
| Langjan | xchat | 18:55 |
| inetpro | look for the private message with inetpro | 18:55 |
| Langjan | Kilos-, that cd thing has not come back | 19:01 |
| Langjan | hope it stays away | 19:01 |
| Kilos- | how did you get rid of it | 19:02 |
| inetpro | oh oom Langjan, we still need to fix the addressbook as well | 19:02 |
| Langjan | can we? | 19:04 |
| Langjan | great! | 19:04 |
| Langjan | weet nie Kilos- | 19:04 |
| Kilos- | lol | 19:05 |
| Langjan | inetpro, I thought its lost and was going to build a new one from received mails | 19:06 |
| inetpro | Langjan: if you look at the files you will see .thunderbird/linda/abook.mab and .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/abook.mab | 19:06 |
| inetpro | now what bothers me is that those two files are the exact same size | 19:06 |
| inetpro | which basically tells me that there's no difference | 19:07 |
| Langjan | where in the files? | 19:07 |
| Langjan | you mean the backups? | 19:07 |
| inetpro | Langjan: if you look at the files you will see .thunderbird/linda/abook.mab and .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/abook.mab | 19:07 |
| inetpro | remember, you can look at these files even with your file manager | 19:08 |
| Langjan | I see them | 19:08 |
| inetpro | just need to show hidden files | 19:09 |
| Langjan | I seee the abook.mab but not the other | 19:10 |
| inetpro | kyk mooi | 19:10 |
| Langjan | I'm in thebackup folder now...? | 19:11 |
| Langjan | User | 19:11 |
| inetpro | one is dated Aug 16 22:55 and the other Aug 16 22:09 | 19:11 |
| Langjan | am I in the right place? | 19:12 |
| inetpro | if you find an old one in the backups with a different size that will be the best | 19:12 |
| inetpro | but what I was talking about is the two in the current .thunderbird profile folders | 19:13 |
| Langjan | the abook I see is 1,4kB | 19:13 |
| Langjan | in the backups | 19:13 |
| inetpro | once again after closing Thunderbird, you can copy an old abook file to the current default profile's folder and effectively just replace with a backup | 19:14 |
| inetpro | but as mentioned, it looks to me like they are exactly the same | 19:15 |
| inetpro | remember I am looking at what you gave me at http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119721/ | 19:15 |
| Langjan | I dont see lboag1xl.default/abook.mab | 19:15 |
| Langjan | only abook.mab | 19:16 |
| inetpro | .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/abook.mab | 19:16 |
| inetpro | vs | 19:16 |
| inetpro | .thunderbird/linda/abook.mab | 19:16 |
| inetpro | default profile folder: lboag1xl.default | 19:18 |
| inetpro | vs | 19:18 |
| inetpro | profile folder we created from backup: linda | 19:18 |
| Langjan | ok I see it | 19:18 |
| inetpro | and then there is the original backup in the Desktop folder | 19:18 |
| Kilos- | sjoe | 19:19 |
| Langjan | also 1,4 kB | 19:19 |
| inetpro | exactly | 19:19 |
| inetpro | so if you want to, you can try copying it but I assume there's nothing in it | 19:20 |
| Langjan | OK then I will just make a new one, no big deal there were only about 30 addresses | 19:20 |
| inetpro | mooi! | 19:21 |
| Langjan | the one in the original backup is 27,9kB | 19:21 |
| inetpro | take note of the file prefs.js | 19:21 |
| inetpro | remember, this was what messed us around | 19:21 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:22 |
| Langjan | better if I just make a new one? | 19:22 |
| Kilos- | night magespawn | 19:22 |
| Kilos- | sleep tight | 19:22 |
| Langjan | 'night magespawn | 19:22 |
| inetpro | either on Windows they decided not to use it any more or it just got messed up after you backed it up | 19:22 |
| Langjan | I thought I had backed up an ldif file but when I tried to use it, it was empty | 19:23 |
| inetpro | prefs.js is basically where all important settings are saved | 19:23 |
| inetpro | not something you want to edit by hand unless you know what you do | 19:24 |
| Langjan | so better leae well enough alone and create a new address book | 19:24 |
| Langjan | leave | 19:24 |
| inetpro | that sounds like a good idea | 19:25 |
| Langjan | die ou man het gaan slaap | 19:25 |
| Langjan | ok will do, baie dankie nogmaals | 19:25 |
| inetpro | hmm... Kilos- is seker nou op sy laptop in die bed? | 19:25 |
| inetpro | oom Langjan you are most welcome | 19:25 |
| Langjan | Ok inetpro I will leave you now, am sure you have more important things to do. | 19:26 |
| inetpro | I'm very happy to see you helping others again | 19:26 |
| Langjan | My privilege, Linda will only be 88 in October | 19:27 |
| Langjan | a grand lady | 19:27 |
| inetpro | nice! | 19:28 |
| Langjan | Lekker aand en slaap lekker | 19:28 |
| inetpro | dankie en dieselfde daar oom | 19:28 |
| Langjan | dankie inetpro | 19:28 |
| Langjan | moooi loop | 19:28 |
| inetpro | skuus dat ek nie in die dag kan help nie | 19:29 |
| * inetpro very glad to see another happy user | 19:29 | |
| Kilos- | well done inetpro | 19:30 |
| inetpro | oom Kilos-, all your fault | 19:30 |
| Kilos- | ? | 19:31 |
| Kilos- | how do you figure that | 19:31 |
| inetpro | was you who introduced the man to this channel | 19:31 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| inetpro | and maybe even to Ubuntu :-) | 19:31 |
| Kilos | sigh | 19:31 |
| linda_ | great | 19:31 |
| Kilos | hi linda | 19:32 |
| linda_ | no, I stumbled upon Ubuntu by mistake | 19:32 |
| Kilos | is it you | 19:32 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:32 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:32 |
| inetpro | haha, she been listening in here all this time? :-) | 19:32 |
| linda_ | ja man die ou tannie slaap | 19:32 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:32 |
| linda_ | lmga | 19:32 |
| Kilos | skelm ou man | 19:32 |
| Kilos | die pro slim ne | 19:33 |
| linda_ | jy moet lig loop met die ou manne | 19:33 |
| linda_ | baie | 19:33 |
| Kilos | ek bly julle het gewen | 19:33 |
| linda_ | ok guys I have some adress book work to do, go well and thks for your share alsdo Kilos | 19:34 |
| inetpro | now if only we could see more people stumble upon Ubuntu like this by mistake | 19:34 |
| Kilos | as julle nou net wou kde gebruik dan was dit makliker vir hom ook | 19:34 |
| linda_ | leker aand en leker slaap julle wee | 19:34 |
| inetpro | we could solve all the problems in this world of ours | 19:35 |
| linda_ | twee | 19:35 |
| Kilos | when we hit 50 i retire | 19:35 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap ooom | 19:35 |
| linda_ | I retired at 50 | 19:35 |
| linda_ | on my 50th birthday | 19:35 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:35 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 19:35 |
| Kilos | i was still looking after someones cow | 19:36 |
| Kilos | cows | 19:36 |
| linda_ | lekker slaap jule ook, ek gaan nou adresse soek | 19:36 |
| Kilos | mooi | 19:36 |
| Kilos | im gonna crash too guys | 19:36 |
| inetpro | good night oom Kilos | 19:36 |
| Kilos | nag boetie en dankie vir die hulp | 19:43 |
| linda_ | inetpro, is there any way to see Lindas email password in the backups? | 19:44 |
| inetpro | hmm... that might be a bit of a tough one | 19:44 |
| linda_ | without messing anything up... | 19:44 |
| linda_ | well I suppose Vodacom must be able to provide the settings | 19:45 |
| linda_ | will get onto them | 19:45 |
| linda_ | er mail is sending but to receive it wants a password | 19:45 |
| inetpro | see How can I restore passwords from a computer backup? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/958936 | 19:45 |
| linda_ | her | 19:46 |
| inetpro | I think Thunderbird uses the same thing | 19:46 |
| linda_ | thks | 19:46 |
| inetpro | or in principle the same thing | 19:46 |
| linda_ | Perhaps the easy way is to go to ther isp | 19:48 |
| inetpro | yep, I would guess so as well | 19:48 |
| linda_ | ok thks go well | 19:48 |
| superfly | inetpro: the nikola devs are AMAZING :-) I've been asking them a couple of questions in their IRC channel, and they are super-helpful and friendly | 20:08 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: my ipython notebook is successfully running :P | 20:11 |
| superfly | kulelu88: excellent! | 20:15 |
| superfly | good job | 20:15 |
| kulelu88 | superfly: what do you think of my possible open source project of trying to standardize docker containers? | 20:17 |
| superfly | sounds like a good idea, but gaining traction will be a problem | 20:20 |
| kulelu88 | I think it will grow organically on its own, cause I will also attempt to abstract away some of the difficulties as well, like the issue of even writing your own dockerfiles | 20:21 |
| superfly | have you googled to see if you can find anything else out there? | 20:22 |
| kulelu88 | good idea to check. let me do that | 20:22 |
| kulelu88 | doesn't seem like there's anything | 20:25 |
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