=== GnikLlort_ is now known as GnikLlort [05:38] morning all [05:38] oh and inetpro [05:46] morning all [05:56] hi pieter2627 \ [06:06] Oh, guten morgen, y'all. [06:07] zehr gut [06:08] :P [06:08] I don't speak German. :( [06:08] :D [06:08] i forget spelling [06:08] Kilos: Do you prefer white or red wine? [06:09] i donk drink anymore stickyboy stopped maybe 30 years ago [06:09] i enjoyed old brown sherry back then [06:10] especially in winter [06:10] or a sweet hanepoot [06:10] i was a bacardi drinker [06:11] Ah. [06:11] Did they have Bacardi 30 years ago? [06:11] no then it was redheart days [06:11] and old nick and the captain [06:12] I didn't drink for 30 years. :) [06:12] (until I was 30) [06:12] when i found bacardi i switched [06:12] Now I like dry red wine. [06:12] red wine is supposed to be healthy if you dont overdo it [06:13] Yeah [06:13] I basically only drink red wine, coffee, and water. [06:13] :) [06:13] hehe [06:13] dry wine is hard to drink [06:14] whew [06:14] any dry wine is [06:15] We drink a lot of South African wine here in Kenya. [06:15] But it's expensive, and from wineries you'd never go to in SA. ;) [06:15] Instead of $5, it's $10. [06:16] whew [06:18] Kilos: Have you, at any time in your adult life, yelled at youngsters to "get off your lawn"? [06:18] lolol [06:19] no i think lawn is made to play on, not just look good [06:19] ;) [06:20] and it just keeps growing anywhy so why get upset over nothing [06:20] anyway === qwebirc87662 is now known as Padroni [06:21] hi Padroni [06:21] Morning guys [06:22] where you been man [06:22] Had a thing at work that took all my attention for a couple of weeks [06:22] whew [06:22] also been having endless issues with Afrihost / Internet [06:22] I'm ready to give up on the internet completely [06:22] ai! [06:22] move to Durka-durkastan and herd goats. [06:23] hahahaha [06:23] maybe buy a Noka 2110 when I sell my iPhone and Huawei P7 [06:23] I can get at least 4 goats for that iPhone [06:23] ... [06:23] lol [06:23] 4 goats = a herd [06:23] small, but still [06:24] thery breed fast [06:24] I hope so [06:24] Padroni: Try Kyrgyzstan [06:24] Padroni: "The Switzerland of Central Asia" [06:24] 1 ram and 3 ewes [06:24] As long as it is somewhere that is hard to pronounce, stickyboy [06:24] Kyrgyzstan sounds perfect. [06:25] moo [06:25] Padroni: I know what you mean. [06:25] hi thatgraemeguy [06:25] hi thatgraemeguy [06:26] greetings and salutations [06:29] superfly you here? [06:38] https://123net.co.za/en/front/forms/home/ [06:38] Sign up there to help get Fibre to your area. [06:38] up to 5mb fibre line free, anything higher you pay for. [06:49] Padroni: hi! [06:53] Morning everyone [06:55] Whaaaat. [06:55] Nothing in life is free. [07:02] hey superfly [07:03] waiting for your mail, dude [07:06] Anyone read HackerNews? [07:07] https://news.ycombinator.com/ [07:15] I do [07:15] why? [07:20] hi TinuvaMac [07:21] top of the morning to you too Kilos [07:21] ty sir you too [07:23] hi TinuvaMac [07:23] Padroni: It's just good to see when security issues get dropped. ;) [07:30] I like when people post things about typography (fonts, layout, etc). [07:33] start saving up: http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/11732/sixteen-terabytes-samsung-release-16tb-ssd-next-year [07:36] nice hey? [07:38] yeah, and pretty historic, that'll be the first time an SSD is bigger than the biggest conventional HDD [07:39] great, I'll sell a few of my private jets to buy one [07:40] wat se MaNI vanoddend [07:40] vanoggend [07:41] must be going blinder [07:44] SSD hehe [07:44] now much :p [07:44] Kilos: What is your opinion on Socialism? [07:45] haha [07:45] i dont have opinions about that i dont think [07:45] all mans funny things are the same [07:46] different names but same power hungry peeps up top [07:47] the world is a beautiful place, only peeps mess it up [07:47] Kilos: Sane opinion. :) [08:02] good morings [08:02] hi there inetpro [08:02] Hi inetpro [08:02] Our company's first linux-based computer went live today [08:02] running Mint [08:02] oh heh Padroni [08:02] long time no see [08:02] which in itself may not sound like a big deal [08:03] but my boss is a Apple-fanboy so this was a hard sell. [08:03] he gave in and now we switching from Mac to Ubuntu / Mint [08:03] hey man how are you? [08:03] Padroni thats great news man [08:03] good, good [08:03] I switched to Ubuntu long ago already. [08:04] Refused to work on the Mac so they took mine back. [08:04] hmm... so it's the 2nd linux based computer really [08:04] yeah but for me there's no comparison between OSX and Linux [08:04] how big is the company? [08:04] I'll take real linux any day [08:05] in terms of personnel, not that big [08:05] in terms of ego : we're a fortune 500 [08:05] at least the support department is. [08:06] what is the goal in terms of how many desktops to switch over? [08:06] in what period [08:06] for some reason tech support people come with a god-complex [08:06] there is no goal [08:06] we are just not buying any more Mac's [08:06] ai! :-) [08:06] so as they break, they are replaced by Linux machines [08:06] and trust me, they break [08:06] good [08:06] cool [08:06] Mac = R18k [08:07] We can build 2 pc's with the same spec for that price [08:07] and run linux on them [08:07] same thing [08:07] better OS [08:07] way to go! [08:07] I will never understand what people like about apple computers [08:08] MaNI: Have you ever used one? [08:08] windows I can get to a point [08:08] so my manager asked me a couple of weeks ago 'Which linux do you think we should use on the new machines?' [08:08] stickyboy, yes. I have to develop for them quite often [08:08] Ok. :) [08:08] also the worst OS to develop for [08:08] can't stand it [08:08] "I don't care, as long as it is either Ubuntu or Linux Mint.' [08:08] they went with Mint [08:08] Well the font rendering is amazing on Mac OS X, not to mention the hi-DPI screen. [08:09] yeah look Mac is pretty and you get what you pay for [08:09] but I am just not a fan of it anymore. [08:09] Used to be quite into it as well. [08:09] Windows -> Mac -> Ubuntu [08:09] that was my evolution tree in pc's. [08:10] Padroni: I basically use my Mac as a Linux console. [08:10] To be fair, I install GNU coreutils, GNU find utils, tmux, irssi, zsh, etc. [08:10] mine was to impress people when they come into my office. [08:10] And SSH to my Linux servers. [08:10] did you guys see the IBM / Canonical announcement? [08:10] I dusted it off once a week but never put it on [08:11] who would have imagined mainframes running on Ubuntu? [08:11] I saw that [08:11] inetpro: hehehe [08:11] inevitable, I guess? [08:16] Linux ftw [08:17] Just got my Edgars statement. [08:17] My balance outstanding is R0.57- [08:17] So [08:17] I am invoicing them for R0.57 today. [08:17] Which they won't pay [08:17] and after 55 days I am having them blacklisted. [08:18] Because Jihad works both ways. [08:18] Damn 'them'. [08:19] Afrihost has this thing [08:19] where you can ping yourusername@afrihost.co.za to get your external IP [08:19] anyone know of another ISP that has the same setup / function ? [08:21] Padroni: Wow that's cool haha. [08:27] If you can, watch the trailer to the new Leon Schuster movie. [08:27] That lady at the end smacks the black out of Leon [08:28] Charge them 20% interest on that R0.57 [08:28] and R50 a month admin fee [08:28] hahaha [08:28] nice way to make money [08:29] clearly we're in the wrong business [08:30] https://youtu.be/i59__qZDR4k [08:35] We are all IT people on here [08:35] in some form or another. [08:35] If we pool our resources, we can start quite the formidable IT company [08:41] * inetpro loves how developers keep coming up with interesting application names [08:41] see: aptitude show pollinate [08:42] sjoe [08:43] very creative [08:46] hi pieter2627 [09:27] good morning [09:28] hi magespawn [09:29] hey, did you come right with that laptop [09:29] ? [09:29] na gave up, will plug a modem into it when i have the energy === dawd is now known as GnikLlort [09:30] haha he is a dawd not a dude [09:30] cool beans, if you need some help let me know [09:30] ty magespawn [12:47] Hi Kilos [12:47] hi linda [12:48] This is really Linda Hi [12:48] or jan posing as linda? [12:48] hahaha [12:48] welcome to ubuntu-za [13:01] hi Kilos [13:01] that was linda for real, I'm with her now [13:01] i know man [13:02] thats why i said welcome [13:02] why dont you give her a hug? [13:02] you know you are welcome [13:02] ((((hug))))) [13:02] thks [13:03] you make my day! [13:03] good [13:04] Kilos-, I have activated linda 's email, will contact inetpro tonite to load messages [13:04] well done [13:05] anyway now that lappy is safer [13:05] oh [13:05] The idiots at vodacom registered her email on her cell no instead of her email addes, made me battle [13:05] sudo aptitude install gufw [13:06] thats a graphic firewall [13:07] then you turn it on and allow all outgoing and deny incoming [13:07] should be set like that by default [13:08] command not found [13:08] Kilos-, something else pse [13:08] yes? [13:09] a cd keeps coming up with some windows exe files on it, but theres no cd in tthe drive. how do I delete it? Files wont delete [13:09] oh my [13:10] not serious, just irritating [13:11] isnt that the cd thing in the modem [13:12] no [13:12] no modem, only a dongle [13:12] one of the youngsters will know [13:12] 3g dongle? [13:13] dunno if its 3g, vodacom internet [13:14] thats a usb modem [13:14] hspa [13:14] correct [13:14] and they have cd stuff in them [13:14] no space for cd [13:15] no this started when I inserted cd's to boot from [13:15] it shows af if theres a cd in the drive, in the luncher [13:15] launcher [13:16] oh [13:16] right click [13:16] remove [14:34] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/135336-internet-censorship-bill-for-south-africa-has-been-approved.html [14:34] "Internet censorship bill for South Africa has been approved by cabinet" [14:34] * stickyboy facepalms === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn === thatgraemeguy is now known as Guest84289 [16:19] good evening [17:11] Hi all [17:23] hi Langjan [17:24] Hi Kilos [17:24] Als wel? [17:24] did you fix it [17:24] i removed all the office stuff that way [17:25] which way? [17:25] thought you were referring to Lindas email issue [17:25] right click on the launcher and choose removce [17:25] ai! [17:26] you see all the office stuff in launcher [17:26] It only gives unlock, then comes back but thats not an issue, first priority os to sort her emails [17:26] what you dont use rtight click it and remove from launcher [17:27] mails i cant help with sorry [17:27] has inetpro clocked in? [17:27] not yet [17:28] he first has family time [17:28] Will he be in - do you know? Then I can fetch the lappie meanwhile [17:28] OK thats very good and important [17:28] he should [17:29] he is always here at some point [17:31] 'lo [17:34] hi Squirm [17:34] looks like the big guns are getting it on with linux http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ibm-linuxone-mainframe-ubuntu-partnership [17:34] just read about the prob in the list Langjan not same thing im thinking of doing [17:34] sorry [17:49] brbr [18:00] back [18:00] hi [18:05] guten abend [18:05] hi inetpro [18:05] Kilos: ehlo [18:05] technology is gonna kill me [18:06] hi inetpro did you have a good family time? [18:06] did you see the parrot that got arrested over 'abusing' elderly lady in India? [18:06] xperia now decided im japoanese [18:06] ya hahah [18:06] I saw that, lmga [18:06] ai! [18:06] hi oom Langjan [18:07] all well inetpro ? [18:07] oom Kilos don't let the technology get to you [18:07] lol [18:07] oom Langjan, all good thanks... just tired [18:08] Did you see the technology detox clinic? [18:08] I see I'm a wanted man again? [18:08] Always, thats the penalty for being a pro [18:08] yip [18:09] when youre good you must expect to help more [18:09] I have activated tbird and deactivated the mail download settings [18:09] ai! [18:09] what does ai in this contex mean? Did I do wrong? [18:10] Langjan: and did you attempt any of what I said? [18:10] You just said I must start tbird and not download any mail, I did that [18:11] * inetpro is known to say ai for just about anything here [18:11] in default [18:11] 08/17 20:31:26 linda: ok, here's what I'm thinking [18:11] 08/17 20:31:26 can you please start thunderbird with the default profile and set up her mail account from scratch [18:11] 08/17 20:31:26 then once that is done we move the files in the Mail folder to the newly created profile [18:11] ok connecting linda [18:12] does it make saense what I said last night? [18:12] sense as well [18:12] by the way, she did have an address book [18:12] absolutely [18:12] seanse and sense [18:13] but I have not tried to move any files [18:13] so let's look at what we have now compared to last night [18:15] well, we have a working thunderbird [18:15] find .thunderbird/ -ls | pastebinit -a Langjan [18:15] last night we had this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12110448/ [18:15] ok just a sec [18:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119721/ [18:17] cool [18:18] so we now have thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za [18:18] which was not there last night [18:18] Kilos: does he know the word 'cool' yet? [18:18] hahaha i dont know [18:18] :-) [18:19] he has young grandkids so must i suppose [18:19] oh and an idiot box [18:20] All I know is its cool when its hot [18:20] nee man toppie [18:21] cool is the modern word for good, fine, grand, exciting etc [18:21] and hot [18:21] so oom Langjan if you could now, while not having started Thunderbird, replace those files inside the new pop3.vodamail.co.za folder with the ones inside the old pop3.vodamail.co-4.za folder we should be in business [18:22] in other words [18:22] rm -rf .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/* [18:22] and then [18:23] cp -pr .thunderbird/linda/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co-4.za/* .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/ [18:24] and then start Thunderbird [18:24] thunderbird -p [18:25] select the default profile start it in offline mode just for testing first [18:25] ok - thunderbird is already in the launcher, must I quit it altogether? [18:25] have you copied yet? [18:25] before sterting - no not yet [18:26] well, you need to make sure that it is not running [18:26] Its in the launcher (locked) but not running [18:27] locked to launcher [18:27] but hang on a sec [18:27] I see that a file like Inbox.msf is not empty [18:27] you sure you didn't download emails yet? [18:28] to make sure that thunderbird is not running do a ps listing [18:28] ps -ef | grep thunderbird [18:28] Not that I am aware of I just sent an email to myself to test if its working [18:28] and did it work? [18:29] linda 2354 2331 0 20:29 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird [18:29] yes [18:29] ok, seems if that is the only line then there's no other running thinderbird process [18:30] yes that was all [18:30] question is, whether you are happy to clear the pop3.vodamail.co.za folder [18:30] ? [18:31] What does that imply? [18:31] just means it will remove what you created when setting up the mailbox [18:32] if there's nothing in it it should recreate new files [18:32] So I will just have to set it up again? [18:32] worst case yes [18:32] but we want to put back the old stuff [18:32] teh configs are not in the Mail folder [18:32] the* [18:32] should not be a problem [18:33] it's just mail [18:33] lol [18:34] not femail [18:34] lolol [18:34] Lmga, I dont think there can be anything of importance in there [18:35] any other questions? :-) [18:35] should be clear as mud [18:35] Yes, what to do now... [18:35] ai [18:35] now I'm doing it [18:36] rm -rf .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/* [18:36] cp -pr .thunderbird/linda/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co-4.za/* .thunderbird/lboag1xl.default/Mail/pop3.vodamail.co.za/ [18:36] those two commands will do it all for you [18:37] first one is to remove everything inside the newly created pop3.vodamail.co.za folder [18:37] now you have me exited - cool [18:37] lol [18:37] axcited [18:37] simple stuff if you think about it [18:37] excited, cant even spell [18:38] simple stuff if it works as well :-) [18:38] like flying a Boeing blindfolded and untrained [18:38]