[00:01] <Chaser> Hi, I wish to add custom users to /etc/passwd file (and /etc/group). Is there way to add these custom entries to a different file and the login authentication mechanism picks them up ? I want to keep /etc/passwd distribution default and have my own entries in a separate file if thats possible.
[00:02] <Chaser> Like where you define your own cron entries in /etc/cron.d etc
[00:16] <sorbolene> gah, not sure if my last message went though. just wondering if anyone here that is good with upstart could advise if this script is OK? for loading a node app: http://pastebin.com/9BTXT3ij
[00:17] <wafflejock> Penguinguy: check out xsane for scanning
[00:21] <doctorly> Anyone know how to turn off weird kernel output on 14.04 with kernel 4.1.1
[00:21] <doctorly> By that I mean, it is like tripple overlapped characters and the screen flashes white once.
[00:22] <wafflejock> doctorly: just during startup?
[00:23] <doctorly> wafflejock: Yeah, before ubuntu loads up, just the kernel output, but turning off kernel output in grub didn't fix it.
[00:23] <daftykins> where did you get that kernel?
[00:24] <wafflejock> doctorly: typically the thing that shows the loading screen to not show the verbose output going on is called plymouth
[00:25] <Ivoah> Do I want LVM on a new Ubuntu install?
[00:25] <doctorly> wafflejock: could you rephrase that? I am misunderstanding  what you meant.
[00:25] <daftykins> Ivoah: not if you want to keep things simple.
[00:25] <doctorly> daftykins: one moment, let check my links.
[00:25] <Ivoah> What are the disadvantages to LVM?
[00:25] <wafflejock> doctorly: just the package/program that runs to show you some loading screen instead of the kernel output is called plymouth if you search on ubuntu 14.04 plymouth you may come up with something
[00:26] <wafflejock> doctorly: I've had times I needed to mess with plymouth's configuration or reinstall for it to work properly
[00:26] <daftykins> Ivoah: having to learn how to use it
[00:26] <daftykins> it's mostly for resizing of disks and partitions after the fact.
[00:27] <doctorly> daftykins: it was an official kernel from the ppa. kernel.ubuntu.com.
[00:27] <daftykins> mainline?
[00:27] <doctorly> wafflejock: Oh alright, I will try to mess with that quick.
[00:27] <daftykins> hrmm, those are really only for testing - why are you using it?
[00:28] <doctorly> daftykins: yeah mainline
[00:29] <doctorly> It adds support for trackpad on my computer and is fairly stable, just caused some weird kernel output on start, figure I just need to reconfigure something. I will try what wafflejock suggested now.
[00:29] <doctorly> I think it is considered extremely stable.
[00:54] <estudiante> facebook
[01:16] <Or1on> have anyone experience xwindow crash & logout when using chrome maximized in Unity? I can trigger the crash by using the mouse wheel to change tabs. I can force a crash by switching a lot of tabs with the wheel.
[01:17] <Or1on> This is on ubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <Or1on> chrome 44.0.2403.155 (64-bit) and intel GPU  HD4600 with i915 driver
[01:21] <Or1on> I really like unity... there used to be a 2D Unity that was nice... Is there any other alternative that is similar to the unity experience?
[01:21] <wileee> Or1on, If I rolled you down the stairs, how would you feel, you're somewhat doing the same.
[01:22] <Or1on> wileee, I don't get the analogy. please explain.
[01:23] <wileee> Or1on, using the wheel like that kicks out random code is my guess, your not going from a to b directly, the hardware/software may be over run.
[01:24] <wileee> should work depending on a number of factors is all it would seem, just guessing though
[01:24] <Or1on> wileee, I used that without problems with the nvidia driver/card. and what I described was only how to trigger the crash quickly. it took me a real long time to find out that using the wheel to change tabs created a crash
[01:25] <wileee> cool, just wondering myself
[01:32] <Or1on> I'm going to try using "use system title bar and borders" with chrome to see if that makes a difference.
[01:42] <khaldrogox> does anyone run Cannonical Openstack here?
[01:47] <OerHeks> khaldrogox, some of us do, you might ask in #ubuntu-server too
[01:47] <khaldrogox> OerHeks, thanks! I had a question regarding 10 node licensing.
[01:47] <khaldrogox> site says its free, but I have a "Outage in X days* on my cloud region monitor.
[01:48] <khaldrogox> I am not worried as nothing prod is running there
[01:48] <khaldrogox> but I am in the middle of testing and its a bit concerning
[01:48] <khaldrogox> timer also counts down a lot quicker than days -- more like 2-3 days each day.
[01:51] <Emanuel> help needed please. I have a ubuntu system on my home network. I can see it from My windows 10 system but do not have access to a fold that I am sharing on the network. i used nataulis to make the share. How can I fix this so I can acceess the folder for reading and writing?> I have ssh access only to the ubuntu system right now (too lazy to go to the basement)'
[01:52] <Stanley00> Emanuel: you can use winscp to copy files/folders with ssh
[01:53] <Emanuel> Stanley00, It's not an issue of copying the files. it's an issue that when I try to browse to the shared folder I'm told I lack permission
[01:53] <ericlucio> Hello, i installled ubuntu 15.04 but the nvidia proprietary driver is bugged and i cant start the gui(appear lots of fragments and it freezes), i entering the recovery mode and in the terminal. Whoe can i change the driver or put the generic again?
[01:53] <Stanley00> Emanuel: oh, for the samba part, I cannot help since I've never used it.
[01:54] <Emanuel> Windows says it can't access \\PRINTERSERVER\Plexfolder You do not have permission to access \\PRINTSERVER\Plexfolder. Contact your network administrator to request access'
[02:03] <dragonbite>  :)
[02:08] <daftykins> Emanuel: are you attempting to use user+pass authentication from Windows?
[02:09] <Emanuel> daftykins, No I believe I have guest allowed.
[02:09] <daftykins> 1) Leave the homegroup on the win10 machine (if it's in one) 2) set an smb password on the ubuntu system 3) ensure the share was created properly with 'testparm' 4) restart samba with "sudo service smbd restart" (might be samba, not smbd)
[02:11] <Emanuel> daftykins, How camn i view the shares? My end goal is to be able to use my FireTV to watch movies on my plex system
[02:12] <lkthomas> very strange that some of my ubuntu setup will auto generate 70-persistent-net.rules, some of them didn't
[02:13] <daftykins> Emanuel: view the shares? what do you mean
[02:13] <Steven_M> Dones ubuntu still use unity by default, or has it returned to gnome?
[02:13] <somsip> Steven_M: unity
[02:13] <daftykins> Emanuel: just browsing in Windows to \\IP or name of server\ would work
[02:14] <Emanuel> daftykins, I don't see the Share I made listed in the output of testparm BUT I also don't see the folder that is shared when I use testparrm
[02:14] <artois> Steven_M: Unity is mostly a layer on top of GNOME, however, so there's that
[02:14] <daftykins> Emanuel: oh yeah that'll be due to the nautilus method of sharing the folder you used, probably not gonna work automatically that.
[02:15] <daftykins> not without at the very least a restart
[02:15] <Emanuel> daftykins, a restart of the Ubuntu sysetm or restart of SMB?
[02:15] <daftykins> both
[02:16] <daftykins> though one causes the other ;)
[02:16] <Emanuel> daftykins, Ok let me do a reboot
[02:16] <daftykins> quite honestly a GUI share is never going to be as reliable as a nice proper samba share defined in smb.conf :>
[02:17] <Emanuel> daftykins, I don't have time now to learn how to code a samba share. In November I will but not before then. Quuick & Dirty will work for my fiance for now
[02:18] <nishanth> am having trouble opening a tar file...can someone help with it?
[02:19] <bendun> hi everyone, i'm looking for a confident programmer who is interested in politics.
[02:19] <jthan> roo
[02:21] <daftykins> Emanuel: you'll never change it if you don't get it right first time.
[02:21] <r00t^2> how do i disable IPv6 for the installer via the kernel commandline? i'm booting debian-installer from iPXE.
[02:21] <daftykins> bendun: well you're in the wrong place
[02:21] <daftykins> !ot
[02:22] <bendun> daftykins: well i need to find out how to host something off an ubuntu server
[02:22] <daftykins> bendun: that is not dev or politics :P
[02:22] <Steven_M> somsip: okay, is there a spin-off version for gnome, in the same way that KDE users have Kubuntu?
[02:22] <OerHeks> r00t^2, ask in #debian ?
[02:22] <bendun> daftykins: :P well i better go now lol
[02:23] <somsip> bendun: if you can form a straightforward question about ubuntu, then just ask. But if it's nothign to do with ubuntu really, expect to be told to go elsewhere
[02:23] <somsip> !flavors | Steven_M
[02:23] <wafflejock> Steven_M: yup Ubuntu Gnome edition
[02:23] <r00t^2> OerHeks: i'm booting ubuntu. ubuntu kernel, ubuntu initrd.
[02:23] <Leo7Mario> i have this problem with gdm on ubuntu 12.04
[02:23] <maxilla> leo7mario: say what it is
[02:24] <Steven_M> artois: interesting, I did not know that.
[02:24] <Leo7Mario> whenever i log out or switch users
[02:24] <Leo7Mario> it goes to a black screen
[02:24] <Leo7Mario> and i can't go to another tty or kill X11
[02:25] <xrfang> hi, if I calculate the sha1 of a datablock, then encrypt the sha1 with a safe algorithm, e.g. aes, and send the encrypted hash as "signature" to the recipient, will it be safe to authenticate the data? what's the difference between this simple approach and HMAC?
[02:27] <Leo7Mario> if i hard-shutdown the computer it will go back to gdm and i can be able to log in again, but if i log out or switch users it goes to a black screen and sometimes displays a cursor
[02:28] <limbera> i've created a bash script to setup and run my gunicorn application server but the bash script is not properly setting my env variables
[02:28] <limbera> http://dpaste.com/1GBTZGS
[02:28] <limbera> can someone help me out with that
[02:29] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: check its' logs
[02:29] <Leo7Mario> where does it store the logs
[02:29] <daftykins> limbera: ask in #bash
[02:29] <limbera> thank you
[02:29] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: where all the logs live
[02:29] <Steven_M> somsip: wafflejock: thanks :-)
[02:30] <Leo7Mario>  /var/log?
[02:30] <maxilla> leo7mario: try that
[02:31] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: it's in /var/log/gdm
[02:31] <OerHeks> r00t^2, i think you need to setup your pxe service right, /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[02:31] <Leo7Mario> ok there's 69 different files in there
[02:32] <r00t^2> OerHeks: it's booting just fine. it boots to the installer. please re-read my question.
[02:32] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: what's the most recent one
[02:32] <jthan> Leo7Mario: to clarify, it should be in /var/log/gdm -- simply called gdm.log
[02:33] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: Linux devs are cunning and name logs to do with the program
[02:34] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: put the log on pastebin
[02:34] <maxilla> then post the link here
[02:35] <daftykins> !paste
[02:35] <r00t^2> OerHeks: and before you say it, i'm aware i can do it with a preseed file- but i'm trying to avoid using a preseed file, nor should i need to use one as there's a perfectly good kernel command-line paramater- ipv6.ipv6_disable - yet it is not honoured by the ubuntu installer.
[02:35] <slixpk> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 server. How do I start inetd as a service?
[02:35] <Leo7Mario> ok i have 3 log files with the same timestamp, :0.log, :0-greeter.log, and :0-slave.log
[02:35] <Leo7Mario> should i upload all of them?
[02:35] <r00t^2> OerHeks: so i'll ask again- what boot parameter is the ubuntu installer expecting to disable ipv6 autoconfiguration?
[02:35] <maxilla> Leo7Mario: GDM.LOG
[02:36] <Leo7Mario> there is no gdm.log there is a folder for gdm though
[02:36] <pygmyGeek> look in the gdm folder
[02:36] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:37] <Or1on> wileee, one of the indicators (psensor) was causing the crashes I was having when using the mouse wheel to switch tabs on chrome. It seems to be normal now :o)
[02:38] <Leo7Mario> pastebin.com/dMkfPp6q
[02:38] <pygmyGeek> Leo7Mario: were you in /var/log
[02:38] <pygmyGeek> or /var/log/gdm
[02:38] <Leo7Mario>  /var/log/gdm
[02:38] <pygmyGeek> was that the directory with the three files?
[02:38] <Leo7Mario> yeah
[02:39] <pygmyGeek> ls && pastebinit
[02:40] <pygmyGeek> .:Leo7Mario:. pastebin.com/dMkfPp6q
[02:40] <pygmyGeek> what file was that btw
[02:40] <Leo7Mario> :0.log
[02:40] <pygmyGeek> you said there was another gdm folder?
[02:41] <Leo7Mario> pastebin.com/pW2rfPW7 is :0-greeter.log
[02:41] <OerHeks> r00t^2, not sure this multi-pxe is any help, it is still configured serverside https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[02:41] <Leo7Mario> and pastebin.com/hA32gwnd is :0-slave.log
[02:41] <pygmyGeek> can you share the full ls for /var/log/gdm?
[02:41] <Leo7Mario> ok
[02:41] <pygmyGeek> Leo7Mario: ls && pastebinit
[02:42] <pygmyGeek> run that
[02:42] <zykotick9> pygmyGeek: ahhh "ls && pastebinit" doesn't seem right?!?  "ls | pastebinit" perhaps?
[02:43] <pygmyGeek> zykotick9: whoops
[02:43] <pygmyGeek> I believe both work
[02:43] <pygmyGeek> but i may be mistaken
[02:43] <r00t^2> OerHeks: that is not helpful. it lists disabling IPv6 disabling for e.g. Fedora, but not Ubuntu.
[02:43] <Leo7Mario> pastebin.com/LjWmrKvN
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> any directories in /var/log/gdm?
[02:44] <Leo7Mario> nope
[02:44] <Leo7Mario> just files
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> try :7.log
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> and :7-greeter.log
[02:44] <pygmyGeek> and :7-slave.log
[02:45] <Leo7Mario> ok those are modified before the problem
[02:45] <Leo7Mario> i just started experiencing the problem today
[02:45] <pygmyGeek> ok that's useful information
[02:46] <pygmyGeek> so I'm assuming the most recent logs were the :0.log files
[02:46] <Leo7Mario> yes
[02:47] <Leo7Mario> and i already pastebinned all 3 of them
[02:47] <pygmyGeek> I saw
[02:48] <Leo7Mario> wait now that i think about it those might not be the troubling logs because the date modified plus my uptime equals the current date and time
[02:53] <c0rd4x> list
[02:53] <c0rd4x> -l
[02:55] <Leo7Mario> i might take a little break. if you think you know what the problem or solution is please tell me
[02:59] <daftykins> Leo7Mario: upgrade to 14.04
[03:01] <pygmyGeek> daftykins: apparently his pc can't run it somehow
[03:01] <daftykins> that seems unlikely
[03:01] <pygmyGeek> yeah
[03:01] <pygmyGeek> we discussed it on another network before he was told to join here
[03:01] <daftykins> well that's useful
[03:01] <daftykins> i'd wager that conclusion is wrong though
[03:10] <Ivoah> I'm having issues with VLC on a fresh Ubuntu install
[03:11] <Ivoah> I insert a DVD and open it in VLC
[03:11] <Ivoah> then click play
[03:11] <Leo7Mario> yeah i cannot upgrade to 14.04 due to my computer's graphics card not supporting hardware acceleration.
[03:12] <Ivoah> but it immediately pauses it
[03:13] <Leo7Mario> also i had this problem where a floppy doesn't mount automatically, i easily fixed that through editing a file.
[03:13] <Leo7Mario> but the problem on highest priority is my gdm black screen issue
[03:15] <Bashing-om> Leo7Mario: Choose a Desktop environment that does not require hardware acceleration ??
[03:15] <Leo7Mario> ok
[03:16] <Leo7Mario> actually if this helps
[03:16] <Leo7Mario> i'm on 64 bit ubuntu 12.04
[03:16] <Leo7Mario> not 32-bit
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Leo7Mario: "ubuntu" does require acceleration . best I recall (L)ubuntu does not .
[03:17] <Leo7Mario> yeah i know
[03:17] <Leo7Mario> but i'm worried packages will get removed
[03:18] <Leo7Mario> i'm gonna be afk got to go to a movie
[03:19] <surgy> hello
[03:20] <surgy> im running lubuntu 14.04 how do i disable sticky keys?
[03:22] <surgy> sorry kubuntu not lubuntu
[03:23] <superteece> Is there a support channel for Duplicity?
[03:23] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/120010/how-do-i-turn-on-sticky-keys-from-the-cli
[03:23] <daftykins> !alis | superteece dunno, have a look
[03:23] <Galaxy> ok
[03:24] <Ivoah> I'm having issues with VLC on a fresh Ubuntu install
[03:24] <Ivoah> I insert a DVD and open it in VLC
[03:24] <Ivoah> then click play
[03:24] <Ivoah> but it immediately pauses it
[03:25] <daftykins> but you do see it?
[03:42] <Galaxy> hello
[03:49] <yazeenq> yo
[03:51] <lhuichicoy> hello
[03:51] <lhuichicoy> !!
[03:51] <rocklobster> Can anyone help? I'm having a super hard time changing the brightness on my HP Pavilion G6.
[03:52] <lhuichicoy> I'm new here..
[03:52] <daftykins> lhuichicoy: either ask a support question or go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[04:04] <on247> hi
[04:05] <on247> i want to mount a directory as another
[04:05] <on247> but i wamt the files owner by user a appear as if owned by user b
[04:05] <daftykins> what's the directory stored on?
[04:06] <on247> my drive
[04:06] <daftykins> and what's the reason for this crazy approach?
[04:06] <daftykins> !xy
[04:06] <daftykins> i think you've got an xy problem right there
[04:06] <on247> i have user nobody that owns my Samba share
[04:06] <daftykins> mmhmm
[04:07] <on247> i have that share bind mounted in my ubuntu based container
[04:07] <on247> i have a db directory owned by postgres
[04:07] <daftykins> and an itchy enter key finger
[04:08] <Aemith> I have a question. Imagine the background: You have a father that give you to be raped by other men, and you have a chance to kill him. What you do?
[04:08] <on247> i can no longer access that specific directory from anywhere mounting the share as its no longer owned by nobody , which is the guest user
[04:09] <on247> enjoy the ride ?
[04:09] <daftykins> !ops | Aemith
[04:09] <on247> but lets get back to the share question , i really really dont want to mess with samba setting
[04:10] <on247> DATA directory <- Samba container -> Web dev container
[04:11] <on247> dev has mounted the DATA directory
[04:12] <on247> Cant i just make the folder as if owned by postgres using mount ?
[04:12] <daftykins> not if that user doesn't exist on your system
[04:12] <on247> which system ?
[04:12] <daftykins> the host doing the mounting
[04:13] <on247> it exists there
[04:13] <on247> in the last container in the chain the one writing stuff to the share
[04:13] <on247> via bind mount
[04:14] <daftykins> ok i've decided it's way too late for my brain to unravel that mess :)
[04:14] <on247> :(
[04:14] <on247> no that complex
[04:14] <daftykins> no but it's 5am here
[04:14] <daftykins> my care factor is at an all time low
[04:14] <daftykins> good luck!
[04:15] <on247> A is sharing /DATA by samba using user nobody, B has mounted that directory
[04:15] <Mathewwe> Can anyone help me with an issue I've been having with Ubuntu gnome and Linux in general? Nobody is on the Ubuntu  gnome channel
[04:16] <daftykins> !details
[04:16] <daftykins> don't ask to ask, just ask.
[04:16] <on247> B wants to write files to that folder owned by postgres but then  A wont be able to share the files as no longer owned by nobody
[04:16] <on247> how i could make it work ?
[04:18] <Mathewwe> Alright. So what seems to be happening is for whatever reason whenever I try to use the desktop on Ubuntu gnome is leaves me at a black screen. I know Linux is responding as I can use ctrl alt f1 to get to the terminal and login from there, but I cannot use the DE. I tried installing drivers for my graphics card to no avail. Any suggestions for what to try next?
[04:20] <on247> Anyone
[04:21] <on247> i just want to make all files owned by a appear as i owned by b
[04:21] <on247> using some mount option
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: Is it Gnome that's not loading, or the login screen?  (Do other DEs work?)
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> on247: Have you seen the uid option to mount.cifs?
[04:23] <Mathewwe> The login screen loads, but as soon as I log in it goes to aforementioned black screen. I've tried using other DEs and even whole other distros(debian)
[04:23] <on247> does it exist for bind mounts ?
[04:24] <on247> B actually doesent access the share as share but as a mounte dir
[04:25] <valcea> .query wxL
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> on247: No, this would be different.  Why not just mount it again?
[04:27] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso sorry I forgot to mention you
[04:27] <on247> B actually doesent mount the share but shares a bind mounter directory with the actual samba server
[04:27] <on247> B is a container
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: Curious...
[04:28] <valcea> hi
[04:30] <on247> Alternatively  could i just tell samba to share the effing files no mater who is the owner as long as they are in /DATA
[04:32] <daftykins> you might be able to just add uid=# and gid=# to your mount options
[04:32] <daftykins> e.g. -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[04:35] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso think it might be my graphics card causing the problem?
[04:36] <daftykins> you could pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log to show if there's an issue
[04:36] <daftykins> Mathewwe: ^
[04:39] <Mathewwe> @daftykins Would installing xserver-xorg-video-ati have any effect? I'm not at my computer right now so I'm just brainstorming how I should go about this and doing some research
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: Either the card, how your card is detected, or how things get configured as a result anyway.  Not really sure from there - the log daftykins mentioned may help.
[04:44] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso I've been  looking for a reason to get a new card for while now. Is nvidia compatibility good?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> Mathewwe: "It depends" :)
[04:46] <Mathewwe> @tonyyarusso I'll look into it when I decide if I'm getting a new card.
[04:56] <marketing3> help...
[05:04] <joral> hello, anyone have any experience with snd-powerpc?
[05:07] <Halelujah> hi! My sound is not working after restart i'm using snd-hda-intel driver
[05:07] <alexbucuresti> hi
[05:12] <Halelujah> gatis@pc:~$ dmesg | grep hda
[05:12] <Halelujah> [   15.115477] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
[05:12] <Halelujah> [   15.115496] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: no codecs found!
[05:12] <Halelujah> What does this mean?
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> sorry, my computer's battery died
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> so what's the solution?
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> also for your info that gdm bug is new
[05:12] <Leo7Mario> like it just started happening today
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> before it didn't happen.
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> but now it is
[05:13] <Computer> hello?
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> also that trick with removing gnome-screensaver
[05:13] <Leo7Mario> didn't work
[05:21] <Leo7Mario> umm anybody know that problem i had
[05:21] <Leo7Mario> with gdm
[05:21] <Leo7Mario> maybe it has to do with gnomescreensaver
[05:23] <Leo7Mario> nope
[05:23] <Leo7Mario> not even xscreensaver fixes it
[05:24] <Leo7Mario> i thought that was the fix since whenever i switched users it didn't do it.
[05:24] <Leo7Mario> wait a second i have some more info
[05:24] <Leo7Mario> not only does it do that bug where the computer freezes after switching users or logging out
[05:25] <Leo7Mario> wait i got a bios error
[05:25] <Leo7Mario> oh nevermind
[05:25] <Leo7Mario> it's just my computer overheated
[05:33] <mohib> hello
[05:33] <mohib> Does anyone have experience with installing scanners?
[05:33] <Ivoah> I'm having sound issues on my fresh Ubuntu install
[05:34] <Ivoah> It detects a soundcard and everything
[05:34] <Ivoah> but there's not sound coming out of the speakers
[05:34] <mohib> ?
[05:34] <Ivoah> mohib: What's your issue?
[05:35] <mohib> Ubuntu 12.04 installation of Fujitsu ScanSnap S1300i
[05:36] <Ivoah> hmm
[05:37] <Ivoah> well, headphones work
[05:37] <Ivoah> but the speakers don't
[05:37] <mohib> Ivoah do you have experience with Ubuntu 12.04 installation of Fujitsu ScanSnap S1300i?
[05:37] <joral> Ivoah: often the soundcard defaults to muted in mixer.  Have you double checked that its unmuted?
[05:38] <Ivoah> joral: Yeah
[05:39] <aib> Ivoah: try playing around with pavucontrol
[05:39] <Leo7Mario> wait you know how i said something about my gdm problem where when i switch users the screen goes black and only shows a cursor
[05:39] <Leo7Mario> well i think i found the cause
[05:40] <Leo7Mario> i resetted my machine and got welcomed by my bios saying my computer overheated
[05:41] <Leo7Mario> but the weird thing is not only does it do it with gdm
[05:41] <Leo7Mario> it also did it with lightdm as well
[05:42] <daftykins> so your card is toast
[05:42] <joral> Leo7Mario, sounds like an ACPI issue to me, something isn't sleeping correctly.
[05:42] <Leo7Mario> ok.
[05:42] <Leo7Mario> i'm in my bios right now
[05:42] <Leo7Mario> and my computer has cooled down a bit
[05:43] <Leo7Mario> like from 70 C to about 40 C
[05:43] <daftykins> ##hardware :)
[05:43] <joral> Leo7Mario, I will say what you don't want to think though, it is possible the ACPI issue is at the hw level and not sw
[05:43] <Leo7Mario> huh
[05:43] <Johnny_Linux> mmmMMMmmm, toasted card    w/cheese
[05:44] <Leo7Mario> well i did build the computer with my problematic ubuntu install
[05:44] <daftykins> super helpful there, Johnny_Linux
[05:44] <joral> Leo7Mario, what everyone else is saying, it is likely hardware
[05:44] <Leo7Mario> yeah
[05:44] <Leo7Mario> it kinda looks like an overheating issue
[05:45] <Leo7Mario> it is summer where i live and my fans are kinda weak.
[05:45] <Johnny_Linux> prolly need to takw a can of air and clean things
[05:45] <daftykins> please take this topic to the relevant channel ##hardware
[05:45] <Leo7Mario> it doesn't do this in lxdm
[05:45] <Leo7Mario> but it does do it in gdm and lightdm
[05:46] <Leo7Mario> my friends who like to use my computer are all linux noobs
[05:47] <Leo7Mario> like they litterally don't know anything about basic terminal commands like cd or ls or cat
[05:47] <daftykins> that's nice, but you're chatting right now in a support channel - please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:47] <Leo7Mario> i'm just explaining my situation
[05:47] <daftykins> and none of it is relevant
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> so i was wondering if there is a fix to gdm that stops this issue
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> or maybe since it's multiple desktop managers it actually might be an x11 issue
[05:48] <daftykins> someone said you claimed 14.04 won't work on your machine, why was that?
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> because my graphics card
[05:48] <daftykins> what of it? legacy AMD?
[05:48] <Leo7Mario> and i really don't want to deal with package conflicts right now
[05:49] <daftykins> well if you have temperature issues then there's no action to be taken but to resolve those first
[05:49] <daftykins> you don't use software to get around hardware issues like temperature
[05:49] <Leo7Mario> well i am in the bios right now
[05:49] <daftykins> the system doesn't idle properly there.
[05:50] <Leo7Mario> ok
[05:50] <Leo7Mario> booting into ubuntu
[05:50] <daftykins> you need to turn it off and investigate the temperature issue
[05:50] <Leo7Mario> well i really can't since it's late at night
[05:51] <daftykins> best stop talking about it and save it for morning then
[05:51] <Leo7Mario> well is there any way to fix this issue
[05:51] <Leo7Mario> the issue is whenever i log out or switch users
[05:52] <daftykins> i already said resolve temperatures first, do you not read?
[05:52] <Leo7Mario> ok fine
[05:52] <Leo7Mario> i'm probably gonna put a big fan right next to my computer then
[05:53] <joral> Leo7Mario, that doesn't explain why its overheating and can actually make airflow through the case worse if your not careful
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Leo7Mario, or (and this is crazy, I know ...) get off the internet/irc and take your hardware to a computer technician?  IF you actually want it fixed ...
[05:53] <Leo7Mario> actually i built my computer myself
[05:53] <daftykins> apparently it doesn't have enough cooling :)
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Leo7Mario, so it would seem.
[05:54] <joral> Leo7Mario, gonna take a wild guess that you did not use a grounding strap
[05:54] <Leo7Mario> i did
[05:54] <daftykins> !ot
[05:54] <daftykins> take it to ##hardware people, third time of asking now.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Leo7Mario, indeed.  ##hardware for the experts.
[05:55] <Leo7Mario> i'll try it again in an hour
[05:56] <ayush> hi
[05:56] <joral> is there anything that could override the blacklist.local.conf file, or otherwise explain why a blacklisted modules is still being loaded at boot?
[05:57] <ayush> what joral
[05:57] <ayush> hey
[05:57] <ayush> heru
[05:57] <ayush> s
[05:57] <ayush> s
[05:57] <ayush> sd
[05:57] <ayush> df
[05:58] <joral> ayush: I have a module that I have added to blacklist.local.conf, yet it is still loading at system boot
[06:00] <Leo7Mario> wait when i tried doing it again something different showed up
[06:01] <Leo7Mario> it went to gdm but the computer hung and it repetively played the drum noise.
[06:01] <Leo7Mario> and my computer was cooled down
[06:04] <daftykins> nope :) fix. it.
[06:13] <Halelujah> Is Lubuntu abandoned?
[06:15] <xViper> [ASK] how i can enable user home dir on webserver ?
[06:15] <xViper> like this mydomain.com/~user
[06:17] <Kartagis> xViper: Include conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf
[06:18] <SuperLag> Canonical Landscape seems $$$$$$$$$.
[06:18] <SuperLag> if you guys have multiple Ubuntu machines to admin, and keep up to date... how do you do it efficiently?
[06:19] <zamba> we want to create a partition with around 40 TB.. which fs do you guys recommend for that?
[06:19] <SuperLag> whoa
[06:19] <SuperLag> that's massive
[06:19] <zamba> SuperLag: is it really?
[06:19] <SuperLag> for a single partition? I'd certainly say so
[06:19] <gingerlyred> need help getting access to my portable hard drive, just installed ubuntu pm me for help please
[06:20] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: plug it in
[06:20] <SuperLag> start with that
[06:20] <gingerlyred> already done, wont recognize is
[06:20] <gingerlyred> it
[06:21] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: how are you making the determination it's not recognizing the drive?
[06:21] <zamba> SuperLag: you'd create different small partitions amounting to around 40 TB in total?
[06:21] <gingerlyred> its not on the file explorer but it is on the disks application
[06:21] <SuperLag> zamba: Depends on what I was using the system for. I've never heard of anyone needing a single fs of that size.
[06:22] <SuperLag> zamba: of course, that's not to say there is no application for something like that... I just don't know what that'd be :)
[06:22] <zamba> hehe
[06:22] <nivv> Hey guys! I'm hosting a private VPS with a vzfs filesystem. The vzfs partiion is full, but the host says they've extended the allowed quota. But I don't know how to allocate the new space
[06:22] <SuperLag> zamba: what are you planning on using it for?
[06:23] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: does the portable drive have data on it? is it formatted already?
[06:23] <gingerlyred> it should have data on it, i havent formatted it since i changed os's
[06:23] <gingerlyred> and i only changed os's an hour ago
[06:23] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: what's on that drive?
[06:23] <gingerlyred> music, books, game setup files
[06:24] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: right, but was this drive for your OS, or a secondary drive you had stuff put on?
[06:24] <gingerlyred> secondary
[06:24] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: and was this something you'd formatted in Windows?
[06:25] <gingerlyred> yea before i put stuff on it
[06:25] <SuperLag> do you remember what type of filesystem you formatted it as? FAT or NTFS?
[06:25] <gingerlyred> ntfs
[06:25] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: you comfy with the command line?
[06:26] <gingerlyred> the terminal says the system on the drive is GPT and the id is ee
[06:26] <jonny_> ciao a tutti
[06:26] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: if not, I suggest you get to that point. It'll only help. :)
[06:26] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: if you run dmesg, what drive letter comes up at/near the end?
[06:27] <jonny_> ci sono toscane?
[06:27] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: something like /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc
[06:27] <SuperLag> jonny_: there's probably an Italian channel for you.
[06:27] <gingerlyred> its dev/sdb
[06:29] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: okay, all one partition, or did you make multiple?
[06:29] <gingerlyred> multiple, made sdb and sdb2
[06:30] <gingerlyred> from what it looks like on disks sdb2 has the 250gbs (not all of that is used)
[06:30] <gingerlyred> sorry it made 3 partitions, sdb,sdb1,sbd2
[06:30] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: try sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[06:31] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: that's only going to be two parititons
[06:31] <gingerlyred> got: mount: block device /dev/sdb2 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[06:31] <gingerlyred> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:31] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: sdb is the name of the disk, and sdb1 and sdb2 are partitions on that did
[06:32] <SuperLag> gingerlyred: Okay. Try this, then: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2
[06:32] <SuperLag> then if you run just "mount" it'll tell you where it mounted it to... probably something in /media/youruser/......
[06:33] <gingerlyred> says only root can do that
[06:33] <SuperLag> sorry... sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2
[06:35] <gingerlyred> it basically gave me a list of help options
[06:39] <lala> Hello
[06:39] <lala> this is for help, right?
[06:40] <k1l> Guest12422: yes, just ask if its ubuntu support
[06:40] <Guest12422> ok, then i have a question
[06:41] <Guest12422> i'm trying to restore data from an errored harddisk
[06:41] <Afdla> anyone knows how to change mouse sensitivity through terminal in 15.04?
[06:41] <Afdla> xset m doesn't work
[06:41] <Guest12422> I'm trying to restore the data on ubuntu but I can't find any drives in Computer
[06:42] <wafflejock> Guest12422: if you run lslblk, in the terminal do you see the drive there?
[06:43] <Guest12422> " Command 'lsblk' from package 'util-linux' (main) lslblk: command not found"
[06:43] <wafflejock> Guest12422: sorry mistype on my part
[06:43] <wafflejock> Guest12422: meant lsblk
[06:44] <Guest12422> "NAME  MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda     8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk  sr0    11:0    1  1006M  0 rom  /cdrom loop0   7:0    0 962.1M  1 loop /rofs"
[06:44] <k1l> Guest12422: can you see the disk in the bios?
[06:44] <wafflejock> Guest12422: use paste.ubuntu.com to share multiline here
[06:45] <Guest12422> in the bios? how?
[06:46] <Guest12422> wafflejock: what kind of syntax?
[06:46] <wafflejock> Guest12422: was just saying what you pasted earlier that is across multiple lines is better to share here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:48] <Guest12422> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116433/
[06:51] <wafflejock> Guest12422: okay yeah not showing the disk so probably something not working in the controller on the hard drive or something, not much hope then, like k1l said you could try checking to see if the hard disk can be seen in the BIOS setup in the boot disk section or otherwise but sounds like it's not communicating
[06:52] <Guest12422> okay, i will be right back.
[06:55] <notdaniel> outside of lvm, is there a decent way to 'snapshot' my current ubuntu install? other than, say, imaging the whole thing
[06:58] <bazhang> !info grsync
[06:58] <sogeking99> Hey guys, any idea what Cinnamon appletts are programmed in?
[06:59] <Guest12422> wait i forgot what to do again
[07:00] <Guest12422> i went to BIOS setup, then what
[07:01] <notdaniel> Guest12422: missed your problem, what's the full issue? can't boot from ubuntu, or your computer can't see the disk at all?
[07:02] <Guest12422> my computer can't see the disk at all
[07:02] <notdaniel> is it a new disk? has it ever seen it? have other machines seen it?
[07:02] <Guest12422> i'm trying to restore my files from Hard Disk Error 2F1
[07:02] <k1l> Guest12422: then see if it lists that hdd somewhere. that depends on your actual mainboard/bios. but its about checking if that hdd is working at all or dead.
[07:02] <Guest12422> I mean 3F1
[07:02] <k1l> Guest12422: because if its dead there is nothing ubuntu can do
[07:02] <notdaniel> Guest12422: yeah if it's dead, it's hard to tell. pop it into an external dock if you have one, or similar, to make sure it work at all
[07:03] <Guest12422> i don't have an external dock, unfortunately. plus it's on a laptop so it's hard to take it out
[07:03] <notdaniel> making sure you have AHCI enabled in your BIOS is always good, but usually that's enabled anyway
[07:04] <Guest12422> Well the total memory says its 2 GB which is weird
[07:04] <notdaniel> so i'm guessing you have more than 2gb then
[07:04] <Guest12422> Yes
[07:05] <Guest12422> At least before the crash
[07:05] <notdaniel> check for a bios update exists for your machine. install it. reseat the RAM/HD/whatever else
[07:05] <Guest12422> Oh wait i'm on boot options now
[07:06] <notdaniel> and what does it show you
[07:07] <Guest12422> CD ROM Boot enabled,Internal Network Adapter Boot Enabled, Network Boot Protocol IPv4 legacy...
[07:07] <Guest12422> should that be it?
[07:09] <Guest12422> oh ok i'll search for bios update
[07:10] <Guest12422> wait you can check the updates in the BIOS settings?
[07:12] <notdaniel> Guest12422: no you'll need to boot into something and check your machine's model
[07:12] <notdaniel> but honestly i don't think that's the issue
[07:13] <notdaniel> make sure AHCI is turned on. you are _sure_ this drive is bootable? do you have like a live ubuntu cd or some such thing to boot the machine from
[07:14] <Guest12422> well i have a live ubuntu cd
[07:15] <Guest12422> oh so i use ubuntu. OK
[07:15] <notdaniel> most of the time i see a drive not show up in the boot menu, it's either 1) the drive just plain isn't plugged in right, 2) the BIOS can't boot from UEFI and the drive has a UEFI install on it (or the exact inverse of that problem)
[07:15] <notdaniel> 3) AHCI isn't turned on for some bizarre weird-ass reason
[07:15] <notdaniel> or 4) i have a laptop that honest to god required a couple bios updates before it would boot off certain drives
[07:16] <BotchlaB> notdaniel: USB drives?
[07:16] <notdaniel> BotchlaB: i'm referring to internal sata drives.
[07:17] <notdaniel> this one dell laptop i have refused to boot from anythin UEFI about 70% of the time until a couple updates.
[07:18] <Guest12422> so you just update the BIOS?
[07:18] <notdaniel> Guest12422: i mean, it's hard to tell because this could be any of several problems
[07:18] <Guest12422> but it's one of the solutions, right?
[07:19] <notdaniel> even though it is time-consuming, the first thing i usually do in this case (once i've made sure AHCI is on, UEFI vs legacy boot is corect, etc.) is pull the damn thing out of the computer and make sure it works
[07:19] <notdaniel> (i dropped in here after your original question so i don't know what type of installation is on this drive)
[07:19] <notdaniel> but UEFI vs legacy is another thing, depending on how/where you installed the OS on that drive you cant boot
[07:20] <Guest12422> oh ok
[07:20] <notdaniel> this was a drive that worked until a crash? or this is a new/different drive/install?
[07:20] <Guest12422> well if you're asking for more information my laptop kinda jumps out of places before it crashed
[07:20] <Guest12422> yeah it worked before it crashed
[07:20] <notdaniel> so this drive in question booted, and then crashed, and now does not boot?
[07:21] <notdaniel> ok, and have you booted with a live usb to see if ubuntu can see it?
[07:21] <Guest12422> Yes, I'm having ubuntu rn
[07:21] <notdaniel> not even the file system itself, because that could very well have gotten messed up, but can it see the hardware itself
[07:22] <Guest12422> how do you do that?
[07:22] <notdaniel> if you run 'sudo lshw -class disk -short' from ubuntu, do you see the drive?
[07:23] <k1l> Guest12422: again: if the bios doesnt list the hdd that hdd is most probaply broken. so there is nothing ubuntu can do about it.
[07:23] <Guest12422> i'm booting with UEFI
[07:23] <notdaniel> k1l: drives don't always show up in the boot menu unless there is something on it to boot from, especially on UEFI machines
[07:24] <notdaniel> the days of the "this disk isn't bootable" error started going away after that switch
[07:24] <notdaniel> UEFI doesn't bother even listing it as an option on plenty of machines unless there's a bootable uuid on it
[07:24] <k1l> notdaniel: i am not talking about boot menu.  i am talking baout the hardware settings menu
[07:26] <notdaniel> k1l: oh definitely, but since he wasn't sure about his settings, but is already in a live iso, we should still be able to at least see signs that the thing exists.
[07:26] <notdaniel> but yeah, like i've said, my first move here would've been to yank the thing out and put it in a dock somewhere else and check it
[07:30] <Guest12422_> Here's what it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116612/
[07:32] <Guest12422> It says "500GB", which I think is how much memory it has.
[07:36] <notdaniel> Guest12422: if your hard drive is a 500gb drive made by HGST, then it looks connected to me :)
[07:37] <goju> I am using buntu 14.04 LTS and my software updater is showing security updates pending , but when I try to install them it springs up this msg - The upgrade needs a total of 84.0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 24.2 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'. I have few files...
[07:37] <goju> ...in \boot  and grub folder ...how can I decide what to delete
[07:37] <Guest12422> notdaniel: Oh good! :D Then what.
[07:37] <notdaniel> Guest12422: are you trying to make it boot again, or just get data off it or what?
[07:37] <Guest12422> i'm trying to get the data
[07:37] <notdaniel> Guest12422: run 'parted -l' on it and see what it things it's got on it
[07:38] <acepro> hi anyone just anyone i need help
[07:38] <acepro> guys ?
[07:38] <Guest12422_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116682/
[07:38] <k1l> !details | acepro
[07:38] <notdaniel> Guest12422: do you have an external drive that's as big as this one? because my obligatory disclaimer: when dealing with any sort of potential data loss, i much prefer to totally clone the drive first, so if you mess it up somehow you still have the clone
[07:39] <goju> notdaniel: I am trying to install the updates
[07:39] <Guest12422> Unfortunately, no
[07:39] <acepro> ok so i am not able to dual boot this os
[07:39] <Guest12422> Unless I can use my desktop
[07:40] <acepro> installed windows 7 , 8 , 10 first ! then tried to install ubuntu 15 / 14 LTS ... it wont show the option to dual boot with windows
[07:40] <k1l> acepro: dos partition table? is it at the 4 primary partitions limit already?
[07:40] <acepro>  the install screen > http://imgur.com/wyZECIM  , https://imgur.com/BRzUNmK  , https://imgur.com/Wa2vbHD and if i go something else https://imgur.com/C0WpiAa  it shows whole 500 gb disk :( not the partiton i created for it separately which is un-partitioned ..https://imgur.com/xRQaLSv
[07:41] <acepro> installed windows 7 , 8 , 10 first ! then tried to install ubuntu 15 / 14 LTS ... it wont show the option to dual boot with windows
[07:42] <acepro> i do not know what u mean by partition table
[07:42] <goju> any one to help
[07:43] <k1l> acepro: please go to the "try ubuntu" live system. then open up a terminal and run "parted -l" and pastebin the output and show the link here
[07:45] <acepro> kil so i need to run termilan and type parted-1 ?  and how do i copy the output //? i think it will be gone if i switch to windows
[07:45] <Guest12422> so should I just make a clone to my desktop?
[07:46] <k1l> acepro: you can stay on the live-ubuntu and join this chat
[07:46] <acepro> k1l how can i contact u later in case i come back and ur not here
[07:46] <k1l> acepro: and the command is "parted -l" a small L at the end
[07:46] <acepro> just give me a few minutes ill switch to ubuntu and come back here
[07:46] <k1l> acepro: others can help too with that info.
[07:47] <acepro> k thank u brb
[07:54] <Guest12422_> um...
[07:54] <Guest12422_> or maybe I should buy an external hard drive tomorrow?
[08:06] <mattiasw> ol
[08:06] <mattiasw> dammit, wrong window.
[08:09] <Guest12422_> okay i guess i can't use a hard drive because it's too expensive to me.
[08:10] <ObrienDave> and your point is......?
[08:11] <Guest12422_> um are you asking me?
[08:11] <Guest12422_> i was in the middle of trying to fix my problem... if you're asking.
[08:17] <ace_> k1l
[08:18] <ace_> still here ?
[08:18] <k1l> ace_: yes, a few minutes
[08:18] <ace_> great
[08:18] <ace_> i am on ubuntu
[08:18] <ace_> i ran the command u gave me does not work
[08:18] <k1l> !paste | run "parted -l" and put the output there
[08:18] <ace_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ parted -1 parted: invalid option -- '1' Usage: parted [-hlmsv] [-a<align>] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]
[08:18] <k1l> ace_: -l     its a L not a 1
[08:19] <ace_> k still does not work
[08:19] <ace_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ parted -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ace_, sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:21] <ace_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12116861/
[08:22] <ace_> so should i say yes or no ?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> ace_, I missed the first part of your issue:  what hardware?  if it runs win8 or newer, it should be GPT
[08:23] <ace_> windows 8.1
[08:23] <ace_> and it is hp15-r250 tu
[08:24] <ace_> i recently bought it installed windows 10 , 7 , 8 and then 8.1 having same issue also tried ubuntu 15 and 14 lts
[08:24] <ace_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141
[08:25] <k1l> is that installed in non-uefi mode?
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !uefi | ace_,
[08:25] <ace_> i think yes
[08:25] <ace_> i mean i think
[08:25] <ace_> its non uefi
[08:25] <k1l> the ubuntu installer is booting in uefi mode, so it cant see the non-uefi win8.1
[08:26] <ace_> as its old bios not the new one meaning its blue screen with white text
[08:26] <ace_> how do i boot it in non uefi mode ?
[08:26] <k1l> you can give ubuntu the kerneloption "nonefi" iirc
[08:26] <Guest12422> notdaniel are you there?
[08:27] <ace_> how do i do that k1l
[08:27] <ace_> also how come firefox works so much better in ubuntu xD and not in windows:P
[08:28] <ace_> though when i am in live mode
[08:28] <ace_> ubuntu also wont shut down
[08:28] <ace_> i have to manually turn the laptop off
[08:28] <cfhowlett> ace_, focus: one issue at a time.
[08:28] <ace_> ok sorry
[08:28] <ace_> so how do i boot it in non efi mode
[08:29] <ObrienDave> *looks around for a size 14 boot* ;P
[08:29] <k1l> ace_: change the boot priority to Legacy/BIOS first, then UEFI to get Ubuntu to boot in BIOS (purple screen) mode.
[08:30] <ace_> um how as i have made a pendrive and i just boot from it and it automatically boots so how do i change order
[08:31] <OerHeks> nonefi is an option with F6, during install
[08:31] <ace_> @ OerHeks so i need to press f6 during install screen or while it boots from pendrive ?
[08:32] <OerHeks> ehm, at the point try / install ubuntu
[08:32] <OerHeks> you will see it at the bottom
[08:33] <ace_> thanks OerHeks and k1l and cfhowlett and everyone else let me try that f6
[08:33] <ace_> brb
[08:34] <ace_> well it just mutes on the installer
[08:34] <ace_> let me try to boot in installer and try that brb thanks again'
[08:39] <navetz> hi guys, if I install KDE to ubuntu, will I basically have kubuntu and ubuntu or how does that work?
[08:40] <bazhang> navetz, some duplicate packages
[08:40] <bazhang> navetz, at tleast with kubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <cfhowlett> navetz, ubuntu is the main OS.   kde-plasma-desktop is the gui + apps
[08:40] <bazhang> navetz, you could go for a more minimal thing like the kde core
[08:43] <navetz> what do you guys suggest?
[08:43] <navetz> If I duplicate packages wont it just kind of be like a souped up version of of each?
[08:43] <ObrienDave> after installing ubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <nodus> navetz: if your willing to do a bit of work cleaning things up, switching things over by installing kubuntu-desktop is fine
[08:44] <acepro12> sadly f6 did not work
[08:44] <ObrienDave> that will get you KDE and the apps
[08:44] <nodus> navetz: but it can definately leave some configs messed up
[08:44] <navetz> nodus, I can clean it up, what kind of things would I need to do?
[08:44] <navetz> ah dang, I've been upgrading since like 10.04 I think I need to reinstall
[08:45] <navetz> then try to install kubuntu desktop alongside it
[08:45] <nodus> i havent installed kubuntu over a ubuntu install in a long time, so i dont know hoof the top of my head
[08:45] <acepro12> guys ?
[08:46] <navetz> nodes it's cool, if anything goes wrong I can uninstall kubuntu right?
[08:46] <navetz> or will the configs still be messed up
[08:46] <acepro12> q.q guys
[08:47] <nodus> navetz: the configs may be messed up, i would backup first.
[08:47] <cfhowlett> navetz, suggestion: test before you do all that stuff.  install virtualbox.  install your test OS to virtualbox.
[08:47] <acepro12> guys
[08:47] <acepro12> any ideas on what i can do >
[08:48] <Ivon365> How can I install the mobile Ubuntu OS onto my Android device (Samsung Galaxy Note 4)?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !touch | Ivon365
[08:48] <nodus> navetz, cfhowlett: i agree, but with the adendum that virtualbox will be slower than real hardware, and 3d accel wont work
[08:48] <cfhowlett> nodus, indeed.
[08:48] <acepro12> cfhowlett ?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> ?
[08:49] <nodus> acepro12: you need to ask for help in a more clear way than "guys", please describe in what way did it not work
[08:49] <nodus> this is the same ace fellow as before with a diffrent name
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !details | acepro12
[08:49] <acepro12> well sorry i thought u guys were here when i explained it earlier
[08:50] <nodus> i saw that you needed to boot, but what do you mean "didn't work"
[08:50] <nodus> did it boot to windows, did it load the ubuntu menu and go no farther.
[08:50] <nodus> etc
[08:51] <cfhowlett> acepro12, 5 minutes later and I still have ZERO idea what your issue is/was.  no detailz >>> no helpz.
[08:51] <OerHeks> There is a new kernel update, 3.19.0-26.28, i see it in the list, but "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does not give it to me, i am still @ 3.19.0-20-generic
[08:52] <OerHeks> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2719-1/
[08:57] <osamu> hi all
[08:59] <baizon> !hi | osamu
[08:59] <baizon> !hello
[08:59] <baizon> damn
[09:04] <ace_> sorry something weird happened
[09:04] <ace_>  but im back now
[09:04] <ace_> my issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141&p=13340432#post13340432
[09:05] <ace_> ?
[09:06] <ace_> anyone here ?
[09:08] <naruto> hello
[09:08] <Guest558> hello
[09:09] <Guest558> anyone here ?
[09:09] <baizon> Guest558: always
[09:10] <Guest558> this is my issue please help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141&p=13340432#post13340432
[09:12] <Guest558> @baizon  ?
[09:13] <Guest12422> here's my problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/270489
[09:14] <Guest12422> i'd like it to be solved before tomorrow.
[09:14] <Guest12422> please?
[09:16] <Guest12422> um...
[09:17] <Ben64> sounds like you have a broken hard drive
[09:17] <Guest12422> you talking to me, Ben64?
[09:18] <Ben64> yep
[09:18] <Guest12422> so they said that my hard disk is still available and then...?
[09:18] <OerHeks> Guest12422, what is the output of " sudo fdisk -l " past it in paste.ubuntu.com please
[09:19] <Guest12422> ok wait i'm gonna turn on my laptop again
[09:20] <OerHeks> those win10/8/7 partitions do not fly away suddenly
[09:22] <vimes> Hello, I am trying to set up a teamspeak server on Ubuntu 14.04 server but ...I'm not quite sure how to, and google only has old guides
[09:23] <vimes> http://pastebin.com/xvNAih3g <- I have downloaded the TS tar.gz and untarred it
[09:24] <baizon> vimes: just run ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh
[09:24] <vimes> thank you : ), I'll try that
[09:24] <vimes> (running without sudo now)
[09:24] <Guest12422> OerHerks I did i before and it said "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted."
[09:25] <baizon> vimes: important passwords to save http://www.sysadminslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Teamspeak3-Server-Installation.jpg
[09:25] <baizon> vimes: i recommend to read this https://www.vultr.com/docs/creating-a-teamspeak-3-server-on-ubuntu-14
[09:25] <NTQ> "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx does not exist.". (initramfs) ls /dev/sd* shows nothing. Why are my harddrives not recognized? mdev failure?
[09:26] <Guest12422> So should I use GNU Parted?
[09:26] <Guest12422> ...
[09:27] <OerHeks> Guest12422, yes > sudo parted /dev/sda print
[09:29] <Guest12422> OerHerks, "Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label"
[09:30] <OerHeks> Guest12422, sounds like a bad disk
[09:31] <dreamcat4> hi. i want a countdown-timer widget / utility for untity. that will run a cmd when time is up
[09:31] <Guest12422> ok, and then what?
[09:32] <Guest12422> should i leave my data deleted or what?
[09:33] <rory> dreamcat4: if you don't care about a visual display, you can do (e.g.:( sleep 60; firefox
[09:33] <rory> dreamcat4: which will run firefox after 60 seconds
[09:34] <Guest12422> um...
[09:35] <OerHeks> Guest12422, "Hard Disk Error (3F1)" , i say replace the hdd with a new one
[09:37] <Guest12422> so it can't be restored?
[09:37] <Ben64> you might be able to get some files back using photorec
[09:37] <dreamcat4> rory: yeah i know about using sleep. the thing is i want to be able to for example: add +5 minutes, -5minutes etc. to a running timer. and also know how much time is remaining
[09:38] <OerHeks> !find alarm-clock
[09:38] <OerHeks> dreamcat4 ^^
[09:38] <dreamcat4> thanks. i'll take a look
[09:39] <Guest12422> ok i'm trying to download photorec on my laptop
[09:41] <daftykins> Guest12422: hmm bad disk huh? are you having issues seeing it?
[09:41] <Guest12422> having issues seeing it how?
[09:42] <daftykins> ah no was a disk label message earlier
[09:42] <dreamcat4> OerHeks: thanks. 'alarm-clock-applet'. it works for my purpose
[09:42] <daftykins> Guest12422: have you confirmed this disks health state with SMART info yet?
[09:42] <OerHeks> dreamcat4, have fun
[09:42] <daftykins> Guest12422: if not, "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[09:46] <vroomac> need support
[09:47] <daftykins> vroomac: need a question asked before that's possible :)
[09:48] <vroomac> daftykins http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291141
[09:49] <daftykins> vroomac: ensure you're booting the ubuntu media properly in EFI mode, the difference is explained...
[09:49] <daftykins> !efi | vroomac ...here
[09:51] <vroomac> k let me read it brb
[09:53] <daftykins> definitely odd the installer saw nothing on the disk
[09:57] <Guest12422> ok now somehow every time i try to go to mozilla it freezes
[09:57] <daftykins> Guest12422: this is inside an install on this bad disk? or a live session?
[09:57] <daftykins> run the command i mentioned
[09:57] <Guest12422> oh... it's inside a live session.
[09:58] <Guest12422> yes i did
[09:58] <daftykins> and can you paste the link it created here?
[09:58] <daftykins> you may already know it's bad, but i can tell you how bad :)
[09:59] <NTQ> boot-repair has collected data: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117200/ But I'm still not able to boot up. /dev/sd* do not exist within (initramfs)
[09:59] <Guest12422> it says "failed to fetch http://ubuntu.com/...deb" or something. It's completely stuck so I couldn't go anywhere.
[09:59] <daftykins> Guest12422: ah so your live session has no internet connection
[09:59] <Guest12422> i'll have to restart again.
[09:59] <Guest12422> should i cool it down too?
[09:59] <Guest12422> well it didn't
[10:01] <daftykins> sometimes disks that've gotten too hot will work again for a brief period when cold, yeah
[10:01] <r2000> hallo,
[10:01] <fishcooker> how to know the package will be installed on the trust without installed first?
[10:01] <daftykins> "on the trust"
[10:02] <Guest12422> ok i guess we gotta wait until it cools down
[10:06] <OerHeks> There is a new kernel update, 3.19.0-26.28, i see it in the list, but "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does not give it to me, i am still @ 3.19.0-20-generic  >> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2719-1/
[10:07] <Halelujah> Hi how to check what's the name of Dvd drive?
[10:07] <daftykins> OerHeks: missing linux-generic maybe?
[10:07] <daftykins> Halelujah: what do you mean 'name' ? /dev/blah or ?
[10:08] <Halelujah> daftykins: yeah
[10:08] <Halelujah> how to check
[10:08] <OerHeks> daftykins, awesome! i wonder why i didn't have it...
[10:09] <daftykins> OerHeks: i've seen some weird stuff remove it here and there, very puzzling :)
[10:09]  * OerHeks noted
[10:09] <NTQ> It's very annoying. Nothing does help.
[10:10] <daftykins> Halelujah: read "dmesg" or "ls -al /dev/c* "
[10:10] <daftykins> you'll see a symlink point to a physical device
[10:11] <NTQ> How can I scroll through dmesg? dmesg | more isn't working correctly withing initramfs
[10:12] <schlerp> dmesg | less
[10:12] <Nelson1> what does it mean when it says 'cannot send to channel'?
[10:12] <daftykins> likely you need to register to speak in that channel
[10:12] <daftykins> Nelson1: this is a topic for #freenode though and NOT ubuntu support.
[10:13] <NTQ> schlerp: less is not available in initramfs
[10:13] <schlerp> hmm
[10:13] <daftykins> NTQ: is it just coincidence or do you know that i wasn't telling you to do dmesg?
[10:14] <schlerp> use tail -n x /var/log/dmesg
[10:15] <schlerp> where x is how many lines.. although that wont work now i think about it
[10:16] <NTQ> daftykins: both
[10:16] <daftykins> ok good stuff
[10:16] <Halelujah> daftykins i found out using commanod "lslk" to be the est
[10:16] <Halelujah> daftykins i found out using commanod "lslk" to be the best
[10:16] <daftykins> lsblk?
[10:17] <Halelujah> yeah lsblk
[10:17] <daftykins> hmmk :P
[10:17] <Guest12422> i don't know why but every time i try to turn on mozilla it kept being stuck
[10:17] <cfdgdfg> !ops
[10:17] <Halelujah> is it safe to burn iso to DVD using dd?
[10:18] <daftykins> Halelujah: you can't afaik.
[10:18] <Halelujah> daftykins why?
[10:18] <daftykins> i don't expect it to work.
[10:18] <Guest12422> help i don't know why i can't even open mozilla
[10:19] <daftykins> Guest12422: the rest of the system might be hung up on trying to access that bad disk, so live sessions might not operate with it even connected.
[10:19] <Halelujah> daftykins what you recommend? I tried to burn iso to DVD using xfburn it damaged my dvd
[10:20] <daftykins> Halelujah: must you use DVD at all?
[10:20] <Halelujah> yes
[10:20] <Guest12422> daftykins so what should i do?
[10:20] <daftykins> it's 2015, flash drives are ace.
[10:20] <Halelujah> i want to keep DVD
[10:20] <Halelujah> flash drives are much more expensive than dvd :)
[10:20] <daftykins> Guest12422: get that system online and then run the command i had suggested
[10:21] <daftykins> Halelujah: yes but optical media is rubbish
[10:21] <daftykins> are we talking one or are you trying to deploy a fleet of 1,000 machines? :P
[10:21] <Halelujah> daftykins all material turns to rubbish
[10:22] <daftykins> Halelujah: this isn't a place for philsophy, it's fact.
[10:23] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[10:23] <Halelujah> daftykins but i didnt start it :) i also said a fact
[10:24] <schlerp> are you just trying to burn an iso to disk?
[10:25] <daftykins> Halelujah: so you can try K3B if you're sure you must stay in the past, otherwise i'm sure there are plenty of optical media writing programs out there
[10:26] <schlerp> if you are running ubuntu you can just right click an iso and theres an option to burn it?
[10:27] <daftykins> that might well be a large assumption
[10:27] <Halelujah> daftykins i don't know why you have something against DVD's :)
[10:27] <schlerp> disk image writere is standard on ubuntu, i havent used it but its always how i imagined id burn an iso...
[10:28] <daftykins> because live sessions don't work well from them, often drives are faulty... slow... just all the usual sensible reasons.
[10:28] <schlerp> right click on the iso, open with other application... Disk Image Writer
[10:28] <daftykins> schlerp: right but you're assuming what this person is running
[10:28] <NTQ> schlerp: tail does not really help :(
[10:28] <schlerp> this is the ubuntu channel...
[10:28] <NTQ> head is not available. shit
[10:29] <spybull> Hello there
[10:29] <daftykins> schlerp: yep where people are often wanting to install for the first time :D
[10:29] <daftykins> !language | NTQ
[10:29] <cfdgdfg> !ops
[10:29] <daftykins> NTQ: i think you would be better off investigating from a live session, no?
[10:29] <schlerp> he wants a spare dvd
[10:29] <NTQ> daftykins: :D sorry
[10:29] <Halelujah> daftykins you can store on 10 DVD's like 10 OSe's and 1 flash drive cost like 20 dvd's. That's what's good about it!
[10:30] <daftykins> Halelujah: i'm not going to carry on this pointless discussion with you, knock yourself out :)
[10:30] <Halelujah> daftykins i didn't start it )
[10:30] <schlerp> take it to offtopic
[10:30] <schlerp> NTQ can you use sed?
[10:31] <iuli> anyone?
[10:31] <NTQ> daftykins: I already tried lots of different things from a live session to get my Lubuntu start again. Reinstall kernels, update-initramfs, update-grub, reinstall grub, chrooted apt-get (dist-)upgrade etc
[10:31] <daftykins> iuli: anyone what?
[10:31] <iuli> ok
[10:31] <iuli> hi
[10:31] <daftykins> you just joined...
[10:31] <Halelujah> daftykiins im burning an iso to DVD right now :)
[10:31] <NTQ> schlerp: grep and sed are available
[10:31] <daftykins> Halelujah: ok, no need to give me step by step updates thanks
[10:31] <NTQ> schlerp: What keywords could I grep?
[10:31] <schlerp> initramfs should be a busybox terminal... and im pretty sure most versions of busybox ive used had sed?
[10:32] <Halelujah> I'm going to try LXLE os... since on Lubuntu i can't fix my sound problem and noone has any idea why my sound is not working on Lubuntu
[10:32] <Ben64> Halelujah: ok well lxle isn't supported here, have fun
[10:32] <NTQ> schlerp: Yes, it's busybox v1.21.1
[10:32] <schlerp> try ERR or err with grep
[10:32] <Guest12422> ok it's currently 7%
[10:32] <Halelujah> Ben64 i know but Ubuntu couldn't help me to fix my sound problem
[10:33] <schlerp> NTQ: your dmesg
[10:33] <Halelujah> Pretty much ignoring me
[10:33] <daftykins> aww sad face
[10:33] <Ben64> Halelujah: well to be fair you didn't try very hard. you came in here randomly asking "how to fix sound?" with no details whatsoever
[10:33] <daftykins> Guest12422: 7% of what?
[10:33] <fishcooker> how to know the package will be installed on the *trusty without installed first, daftykins?
[10:33] <Guest12422> erm "7% [1 postfix 115 kB/1,085 kB 11%]
[10:33] <daftykins> fishcooker: no you still don't make any sense
[10:33] <Halelujah> Ben64 oh yes i did, i gave so much details.. That only proves that you've been ignoring me
[10:33] <iuli> when i try to install some distros based on ubuntu. (even ubuntu). it freeze!!! why?
[10:34] <daftykins> iuli: run memtest, maybe your system isn't stable.
[10:34] <iuli> fuck
[10:34] <NTQ> schlerp: Give me a second
[10:34] <iuli> it is stable
[10:34] <schlerp> iuli we are going to need a bit more info that that
[10:34] <iuli> i know that shit
[10:34] <cfdgdfg> !ops
[10:34] <iuli> more info ? like?
[10:34] <schlerp> you can use sed -n 'startline,stopline' /var/log/dmesg
[10:34] <iuli> when that logo "loading ubuntu"
[10:35] <daftykins> iuli: run it anyway. next, maybe your media is bad.
[10:35] <iuli> appear
[10:35] <schlerp> iuli: theres no swearing here buddy
[10:35] <cfdgdfg> !ops
[10:35] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[10:35] <Halelujah> I think most of people here don't understand much about Ubuntu :D
[10:35] <Ben64> Halelujah: you don't have to stay here
[10:35] <vimes> "don't understand much about Ubuntu"
[10:35] <Halelujah> Ben64 why not?
[10:35] <NTQ> schlerp: There is one error: ioapic: probe of 0000:00:00.5 failed with error -22
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> sup bro?
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> need an op
[10:36] <Ben64> Halelujah: you're no longer seeking ubuntu support, the commentary is not needed
[10:36] <vimes> I don't understand much about ubuntu, which is why I am here.
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> been calling for ages
[10:36] <Guest12422> daftykins now it said "Err http://archive.ubuntu/ trusty/main postfix amd64 2.11.0-1 connection failed [IP:91.189.91.15 80]"
[10:36] <Halelujah> Ben64 i've been seeking ubuntu support for 3 days
[10:36] <Guest12422>  "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main postfix amd64 2.11.0-1 connection failed [IP:91.189.91.15 80]"
[10:36] <Ben64> Halelujah: and now you're installing lxle, which isn't ubuntu
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah: here’s your support - what’s the issue?
[10:36] <schlerp> can we try stay on topic guys, go to off topic for conversations not support related
[10:36] <Halelujah> Ben64 im still seeking
[10:36] <cfdgdfg> DIfferent people on here all the time
[10:36] <daftykins> Guest12422: try a "sudo apt-get update" then repeat my earlier command
[10:36] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: hi
[10:37] <daftykins> !who | schlerp
[10:37] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: do you understand something about sound?
[10:37] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah: Yes I do
[10:37] <Guest12422> daftykins: But it's still trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[10:37] <Guest12422> i guess i shall wait
[10:38] <daftykins> Guest12422: no hit ctrl+c
[10:38] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: here's the problem, installing fresh Lubuntu i had no sound. I purged and reinstalled alsa and my sound came back after restart. But after next restart sound was gone. You have any idea? Sound works on other distros by the way!
[10:38] <Ben64> Halelujah: not the way to get support ----> http://sprunge.us/MPaK
[10:38] <Halelujah> Ben64 i was ignored
[10:38] <daftykins> no, now you're ignored.
[10:39] <Ben64> you asked the most vague questions ever with no details
[10:39] <NTQ> schlerp: any suggestions?
[10:39] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah: I’m listening - ignore the haters, let’s talk about your sound issue
[10:39] <Halelujah> Bend64 again i was ignored
[10:39] <schlerp> NTQ: looking into it
[10:39] <Halelujah> Ben64 i gave more details to people who tried to help
[10:39] <Ben64> because nobody wanted to fight with you to get details
[10:39] <iuli> opinions 'bout Voyager Linux?
[10:39] <daftykins> iuli: only ubuntu is on topic here, ask in #linux
[10:39] <SCHAAP137> no, haven't used it yet
[10:40] <Halelujah> Ben64 ok you are only here to argue not helping me
[10:40] <Halelujah> cfdgdfg: thats my problem
[10:40] <Ben64> Halelujah: you've still yet to give details
[10:40] <SCHAAP137> iuli: or you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <Halelujah> You want alsa-info.sh Ben64?
[10:40] <Halelujah> what exactly do you need?
[10:40] <popey> Halelujah: what type of computer is it?
[10:41] <schlerp> NTQ: how is your system set out, eg, how many ahrddrives and what partitions/mount points?
[10:41] <Halelujah> popey: HP compaq 6715s. im using snd-hda-intel driver
[10:41] <cfdgdfg> Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!
[10:41] <Halelujah> AD1981 codec
[10:41] <cfdgdfg> @@@@@@Halelujah:  sudo apt-get install FUCK-YOU    !!!!!!!!!!!                        @@@@@@
[10:41] <cfdgdfg> bye
[10:42] <Halelujah> Ok
[10:42] <Halelujah> God bless you!
[10:42] <NTQ> schlerp: At the moment there is only one SSD attached with one ext4 root partition. BIOS recognized it correctly, grub is started.
[10:42] <NTQ> schlerp: oh, and ony IDE DVD drive
[10:43] <NTQ> *one
[10:43] <NTQ> Maybe I should try something like noapic?
[10:43] <schlerp> NTQ: ok, so you had a working ubunt install? or is this happening at first boot?
[10:44] <NTQ> schlerp: This server was working a few weeks without restart. In this time there were several kernel updates, but I didn't restart until yesterday.
[10:44] <Guest12422> !tab
[10:44] <Guest12422> oh ok
[10:44] <schlerp> ok, can you mount your system with initramfs?
[10:45] <NTQ> schlerp: No. There is no /dev/sda oder similar. Also there is no /dev/disk/by-uuid directory
[10:45] <schlerp> whats the output from ls /dev | grep sd
[10:45] <schlerp> NTQ: sorry i see the or similar now
[10:45] <NTQ> empty
[10:46] <schlerp> NTQ: i think booting to a live usb would be a good idea, that way we can have a better look around
[10:47] <NTQ> no problem. Give me 1-2 minutes
[10:48] <schlerp> NTQ: you are using stock repo's? like no repos that give you custom kernels?
[10:49] <Guest12422> I was also asking in launchpad and they said "What file system was the disk using initially?" what does it mean?
[10:49] <NTQ> schlerp: Stock Repos from Lubuntu 14.04
[10:50] <daftykins> Guest12422: whether it was NTFS (Windows) or EXT4 (common Linux file system) etc. etc.
[10:51] <schlerp> NTG: ok, good! and are you using standard ext4 (no lvm)
[10:51] <NTQ> schlerp: live session is running.
[10:51] <daftykins> schlerp: most answers to your questions could be had from the very first pastebin shared
[10:51] <NTQ> schlerp: Before it was LVM. Now I copied it to a fresh ssd without lvm
[10:51] <schlerp> i only joined the channel recently, appologies
[10:51] <daftykins> schlerp: < NTQ> boot-repair has collected data: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117200/
[10:52] <NTQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117200/
[10:52] <NTQ> oh :)
[10:52] <schlerp> thankyou
[10:52] <NTQ> During boot-repair there were two hard drives. The old one with LVM and the new one.
[10:53] <daftykins> hmm that probably didn't help if you ran it then
[10:53] <NTQ> Should I ran it again?
[10:53] <schlerp> can you open disks and check if its there? (or gparted? disks just makes it easy to check the "smart" status of your disk)
[10:53] <NTQ> of course
[10:54] <schlerp> NTQ: sorry i mean check if the hdd is listed
[10:54] <NTQ> schlerp: SMART status is good. Device is listed.
[10:55] <albert88nt> Hy all. I`ve got 2 HDD: 320 gb & 500 Gb, 2 Gb RAM. Wich are the best partition to make for ubuntu?
[10:55] <NTQ> And I can mount it to /mnt for example
[10:55] <albert88nt> is it ok ext4 / =25 GB, swap=4 Gb and the rest for /home on the 32Gb hdd, and the second 500GB HDD ext4?
[10:55] <Guest12422> daftykins I tried apt-get install smartmon tools and now it's stuck on Get:2 with 12%
[10:55] <schlerp> NTW: awesome! have you tried chrooting into the system and running update initramfs
[10:55] <daftykins> Guest12422: something must be up with your connection, or that systems general stability. what actually led to this drive being discovered as bad?
[10:55] <schlerp> NTQ: if not i can guide you through
[10:55] <NTQ> yes, I did this 5 times already
[10:56] <NTQ> But I can do it again ;)
[10:56] <daftykins> albert88nt: make the second disk the /home entirely
[10:56] <Guest12422> nah i think it's the connection. I usually can't download that fast.
[10:56] <Guest12422> how about the SMART status?
[10:56] <ubuntu-mate> hi all
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:56] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[10:56] <daftykins> Guest12422: you need those programs installed to check it.
[10:57] <Guest12422> OK I guess I can start again
[10:57] <albert88nt> @daftykins thank you. Are ok the rest of partition wich i`m trying to do?
[10:57] <NTQ> schlerp: Do I have to bind /dev /proc /run and /sys to the chroot environment?
[10:57] <schlerp> NTQ: and you definately dont have a seperate boot partition?
[10:57] <HewloThere> Hi. I'm simply curious about this, does Ubuntu get sponsored free bandwidth for OS downloads and repo's, etc?
[10:58] <daftykins> albert88nt: yep, depends on how much software you use for the 25GB / though
[10:58] <NTQ> schlerp: no. Not on this new ssd
[10:58] <popey> HewloThere: Yes. Canonical pays for datacentre hosting, and there are volunteer mirrors also
[10:58] <schlerp> NTQ: yes, and cp /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[10:58] <Guest12422> aaand it's stuck to 0%
[10:58] <albert88nt> @daftykins usual software, no video or photo editing
[10:58] <HewloThere> Ohh, okay. :)
[10:59] <Guest12422> is it possible for me to install it on the desktop and insert the file via flashdisk?
[10:59] <schlerp> if the live system has internet, we can apt0get update & upgrade too
[10:59] <NTQ> schlerp: do you mean withing chroot?
[10:59] <daftykins> Guest12422: you could grab the .deb files yes
[11:00] <Guest12422> daftykins OK how do I do that?
[11:00] <schlerp> nah from outside chroot, it will copy in your resolve file which will let youre chroot talk to the internet for running apt-get update etc
[11:00] <daftykins> Guest12422: install "pastebinit" and "smartmontools" on your system then grab the .deb packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:00] <NTQ> I've already copied resolv.conf to the chroot
[11:00] <schlerp> ok cool, so do an apt-get update and upgrade
[11:02] <schlerp> NTQ: then an update-initramfs -k all
[11:02] <Guest12422> daftykins what's the html?
[11:02] <projekt> Hi
[11:02] <daftykins> Guest12422: what html?
[11:02] <NTQ> only linux-libc-dev can be upgraded
[11:02] <daftykins> Guest12422: you're extremely vague.
[11:02] <daftykins> albert88nt: i'm sure it'll be fine
[11:03] <schlerp> NTQ: being a dev package thats probably not gonna help
[11:03] <albert88nt> @daftykins thank you and have a nice day
[11:04] <mnms_> Im looking for a tool to make system snapshot. Can you give me some advice ?
[11:04] <daftykins> clonezilla perhaps could image up the whole machine
[11:04] <Guest12422> daftykins whoops i forgot to tell you that my desktop is running windows 8
[11:04] <daftykins> Guest12422: oh. that makes a bit more sense :P
[11:05] <KrisDouglas> heh
[11:05] <daftykins> Guest12422: so armed with the version of ubuntu that your live session is booting, use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find and download the packages
[11:05] <daftykins> sounds like that system is just hosed though
[11:05] <daftykins> personally i'd disconnect the hard disk from it and see if the live session behaves normally
[11:05] <Guest12422> daftykins so i still use my laptop instead of my desktop?
[11:06] <daftykins> you have multiple choices
[11:06] <daftykins> try any you feel like
[11:06] <NTQ> schlerp: update-initramfs -c -k all?
[11:07] <schlerp> NTQ yeah
[11:08] <NTQ> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0.{41,45,62}-generic
[11:08] <NTQ> schlerp: No errors
[11:08] <schlerp> NTQ: ok, and you've already done this a few times ay?
[11:09] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[11:11] <schlerp> NTQ: try reboot now and hold shift when your computer starts up to catch the grub menu
[11:11] <NTQ> schlerp: I did this a few times. But not after boot-repair
[11:11] <NTQ> schlerp: reboot now
[11:11] <gartral> NTQ: some machiones you need to rapidly hit Shift
[11:12] <schlerp> actually if you havent rebooted yet you could ry dpkg --reconfigure grub2 aswell
[11:12] <NTQ> schlerp: I'm in grub
[11:12] <schlerp> try boot your oldest kernel
[11:13] <schlerp> the one it installed with if its still there
[11:13] <NTQ> schlerp: That kernel is no more there
[11:13] <NTQ> It was 3.16.0-30. Now the oldest is 3.16.0-41
[11:13] <schlerp> NTQ: i guess try the oldest on first and see if it still drops to initramfs
[11:13] <NTQ> schlerp: recovery mode or normal?
[11:14] <schlerp> recovery
[11:14] <Guest12422> daftykins wait turns out there's "postfix configuration" on my laptop
[11:14] <schlerp> NTQ: im not really sure it matters, if its still broken we will prbably end up at an initramfs anyway :P
[11:14] <NTQ> "Switched to clocksource tsc" and waiting...
[11:15] <NTQ> schlerp: "random: lvm urandom read with 2 bits of entropy available"
[11:15] <Guest12422> daftykins it says "Please select the mail server configuration type that best meets your needs"
[11:15] <NTQ> "GAve up waiting for root device
[11:15] <daftykins> Guest12422: weird. local delivery should be fine if listed
[11:15] <NTQ> schlerp: (initramfs) _ ;)
[11:16] <Guest12422> daftykins: what do you mean?
[11:16] <NTQ> schlerp: No /dev/sd* available
[11:17] <daftykins> Guest12422: well does it have choices or not? or must i guess? i'll buy a vowel to start with...
[11:18] <schlerp> NTQ: ok, either boot back into live so we can read dmesg or use sed -n "start,Stop" /file
[11:18] <schlerp> NTQ: start and stop are line numbers and /file should be /var/log/dmesg
[11:19] <NTQ> schlerp: in initramfs there is no /var/log/dmesg. But i can pipe dmesg through sed
[11:19] <Guest12422_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117552/
[11:20] <schlerp> very good point haha, yeah pipe it in
[11:20] <daftykins> Guest12422_: hit no config then
[11:20] <daftykins> Guest12422_: this is all a live session so really none of this matters
[11:20] <daftykins> and local delivery WAS listed =|
[11:21] <NTQ> schlerp: It's not working. it seems that this 'sed' is an very small version of the 'sed'
[11:21] <schlerp> NTQ: have you seen this question? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576140
[11:21] <schlerp> damn, yeah i hadnt piped to sed in busybox (i normally use it in android, not initramfs)
[11:22] <Guest12422_> daftykins: it's not clickable unfortunately :/
[11:22] <NTQ> there is also no screen :(
[11:22] <NTQ> schlerp: But we can still grep through dmesg ^^
[11:23] <daftykins> Guest12422_: well pick something
[11:23] <schlerp> NTQ: yeah haha
[11:24] <Guest12422_> daftykins I can't click anything
[11:24] <Guest12422_> daftykins ok nvm
[11:26] <daftykins> yeah, not a mouse interface ;)
[11:26] <Guest12422_> daftykins oh man i feel so embarrassed :/
[11:26] <schlerp> NTQ can you put a usb in and pipe dmesg to that then boot back to the live system and read it there?
[11:29] <NTQ> schlerp: interesting idea
[11:29] <Guest12422_> daftykins OK here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12117589/
[11:29] <schlerp> NTQ: may be a little less painful, im pertty sure we arent going to get any firsther in initramfs because it cant even see the drive
[11:30] <schlerp> *further
[11:30] <daftykins> Guest12422_: i dreamed this day would come!
[11:30] <Guest12422_> daftykins So what do you think?
[11:30] <daftykins> Guest12422_: oh wow that disk is totally trashed
[11:30] <daftykins> 7,248 reallocated sectors... 1631 reallocated event count, 176 pending
[11:30] <daftykins> :S
[11:30] <schlerp> yeah shes not looking too flash, but it reckons it "passed" lol
[11:31] <Guest12422_> daftykins can you explain the details? like what caused it and such?
[11:31] <daftykins> not really no, possibly the heads touched the platter surface and started scraping it up
[11:31] <robur888d> hi
[11:31] <Guest12422_> daftykins oh crap now what
[11:32] <daftykins> basically if you want any data from it, it's probably already too late.
[11:32] <schlerp> it also says its over heated
[11:32] <Guest12422_> daftykins can I still use photorec?
[11:32] <daftykins> nope if you care for anything on that, take itto a professional data recovery company now
[11:32] <daftykins> and i mean now, turn it off and don't try to use it again
[11:32] <robur888d> ok
[11:33] <Guest12422> daftykins well i guess i'd better buy a hard disk tomorrow to backup future data, right?
[11:34] <NTQ> schlerp: I got some messages from dmesg as I put the usb stick in. Things like "New USB device found", "Product", "Manufacturer", "SerialNumber". But no new devices
[11:34] <daftykins> well you'll need a new one to put in that system to keep using it, then you can take the current one to a recovery company
[11:34] <daftykins> might be a good time to check out SSDs :)
[11:35] <Guest12422> SSDs?
[11:35] <gartral> Guest12422: Solid State Drives
[11:35] <gartral> Guest12422: also, always back up to DVDs...
[11:36] <daftykins> DVD? oh dear Tux no
[11:36] <daftykins> Guest12422: nevermind, ##hardware can help you there ;)
[11:36] <gartral> daftykins: why not? dvds don't crash
[11:36] <daftykins> lol.
[11:36] <Guest12422> I can just use hard disks?
[11:37] <daftykins> you might want to look into retention of optical media
[11:37] <daftykins> the above channel can help you pick a new one
[11:38] <Guest12422> daftykins too bad they don't provide ones available in Indonesian stores... i suppose?
[11:38] <daftykins> wat
[11:38] <gartral> hey all, I've run into a snag while looking through an old hdd of mine... I can't run "ecryptfs-mount-private" or moreover, it returns nothing, i'm on ubuntu 15.04
[11:38] <NTQ> schlerp: how could I mount the usb stick? :D
[11:38] <daftykins> i don't quite follow you on what relevance Indonesian stores might have? :)
[11:39] <schlerp> ls /dev | grep sd
[11:39] <schlerp> to find the usb drives letter
[11:39] <NTQ> schlerp: it's empty
[11:39] <NTQ> maybe a mdev problem?
[11:39] <Guest12422> yeah apparently indonesians sell different products than ones usually promoted on english sites so yeah
[11:40] <daftykins> err, ok
[11:40] <Victor111> i need mono 3.12 on my ubuntu server. But the repo ships 3.2.8
[11:40] <Victor111> anyone knows where i can find it?
[11:41] <daftykins> you'd have to look for a PPA which is unsupported here
[11:41] <Victor111> i understand that it is unsupported ofc since its not marked stable
[11:41] <daftykins> no, PPAs aren't
[11:42] <sogeking99> Anyone here familiar with virt-manager with QEMU? I am having an issue where my gues OS is not running at full resolution. Even fullscreen it is boxed at 4:3.
[11:43] <NTQ> schlerp? :(
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !ppa | Victor111
[11:44] <Victor111> yeah already found it, needed mono-complete instead of runtime :)
[11:51] <hidden> hello, i'm looking for a simple and easy to use tool to transfer music to my iphone for ubuntu
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !ipod | hidden
[11:51] <bazhang> !iphone
[11:51] <daftykins> hidden: if you're on a new iOS version you're probably out of luck.
[11:52] <hidden> daftykins ah man
[11:52] <hidden> this sucks big time
[11:53] <cfhowlett> hidden, apple is not known for peaceful co-existence with other OS's ...
[11:53] <hidden> 6.4
[11:53] <hidden> 8.4
[11:53] <hidden> is my ios
[11:53] <cfhowlett> hidden, read the !ipod wiki and try.
[11:54] <hidden> i read it plenty of times
[11:54] <hidden> feels like i have add looking at it
[11:55] <daftykins> hidden: game over then i guess
[11:56] <hidden> i don't want to use stupid windows but oh well
[11:56]  * hidden looks through old hd's gathering dust
[11:56] <rory> hidden: do I know you from Snoonet?
[11:57] <hidden> rory probably not, i don't use this nick many other places
[11:57] <NTQ> daftykins: Maybe you can assist me in figuring out that problem?
[11:58] <hidden> anyways i'm out thanks alot everyone
[11:58] <hidden> need to enjoy my holidays
[11:58] <hidden> byee
[12:00] <elvin> hi
[12:01] <daftykins> NTQ: nah i'd have reinstalled hours ago
[12:01] <daftykins> life is too short ;)
[12:02] <NTQ> daftykins: Yeah, but all these configurations on the system has to be copied and verified. IPSec, OpenVPN, Unison, Samba Share, ...
[12:02] <daftykins> easy.
[12:02] <NTQ> routes, network/interfaces
[12:02] <NTQ> hm
[12:03] <NTQ> Also I want to know how this could happen... I don't want to have the same problem after the next reboot.
[12:04] <elvin_> quit
[12:04] <NTQ> daftykins: At the moment I think the problem is udev or mdev.
[12:05] <daftykins> not much point telling me i'm afraid.
[12:05] <NTQ> And from where was initramfs started if there is only one ssd with one partition?
[12:08] <stan_> ok.
[12:10] <electrologic> e
[12:10] <electrologic> i have a problem
[12:10] <daftykins> !details
[12:13] <cfhowlett> so no details?  I guess Ms. Cleo came back from her coffee break and solved it for you, right?
[12:32] <Kartagis> currently, I have an nvidia card and nouveau is loaded. whenever I get a notification, it looks like http://i.imgur.com/N93gdnH.png. do I need to install nvidia drivers?
[12:32] <daftykins> Kartagis: which card?
[12:33] <Kartagis> daftykins: nvidia 8xxx something
[12:33] <Bern_> Hello. Im trying to access my mac using vnc client Remmina. It seems to connect fine, password correct and a big screen appears and quickly disappears again(so fast I can't identify it.) Then nothing else happens. Any idea of what may be wrong?
[12:33] <Kartagis> daftykins: 8400
[12:33] <daftykins> oh wow, quite old school then
[12:34] <daftykins> i don't think it'd change much but it wouldn't hurt to try nvidia-304 perhaps
[12:34] <daftykins> Bern_: run it in the terminal so you can see what the error is
[12:36] <Kartagis> daftykins: what is the difference between 304 and 340? both are listed here
[12:36] <lacrymology> an update a few days back has rendered my box unusable, it will fail some drivers failing and won't boot. The furthest I got to was a desktop message saying something like there was problems, but I didn't have any input devices working.
[12:36] <lacrymology> I'm in on a livecd now, can someone help me fix this?
[12:36] <NTQ> daftykins: Do you think I could boot again with SuperGrubDisk?
[12:36] <daftykins> Kartagis: a bigger number = newer
[12:37] <Kartagis> okay
[12:37] <daftykins> NTQ: if i had any input of any use for your situation i'd be helping
[12:38] <Bern_> daftykins not really sure how to do so.
[12:39] <hal9000> i just updated the kernel through the Update Manager, now I get nothing but a cursor when booting unless i choose the *.25 kernel
[12:39] <daftykins> Bern_: open the terminal app, run remmina by typing its' name... then repeat the test connect, messages should be flooding the terminal window
[12:39] <daftykins> or maybe remmina even has a log window
[12:39] <hal9000> do i have to reinstall the driver for the new kernel?
[12:40] <Bern_> daftykins , ah so it's enough to just launch the application to get logs? I thought I had to do the connection from terminal aswell.
[12:40] <Jeeves_Moss> ok, I'm having a brain fart here.  I just added a line to fstab, and I can't seem to get it to mount on boot.  so far, I've got "//10.0.2.30/ownCloud  /media/ownCloud  cifs  username=<User>,passwd='<my password>',iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0'
[12:41] <Bern_> seems no flooding of messages are appearing.
[12:42] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: it's not passwd, it's password=
[12:42] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, I've tired both
[12:43] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: but "dmesg | tail" on a mount test would tell you what's wrong
[12:43] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, I can mount it manually
[12:43] <ioria> Bern_   seems you have to 'Set Color depth to High color (15 bit) or better, otherwise connection will fail'  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop    (i don't have a Mac :( )
[12:43] <daftykins> that doesn't prove anything
[12:44] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, how do I tail a fstab mount?
[12:44] <BrazenBraden> im running ubuntu 14.04. no external gfx card atm as it fried so running off onboard HD5000. when I fullscreen any web video (flash / html5) all my 4 cores almost hit 100% usage. fine with VLC and other media players. how do I fix this?
[12:44] <Bern_> ioria thanks! That got it sorted.
[12:44] <ioria> good
[12:45] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: test it with "sudo mount -a" then "dmesg | tail" to see what it fails on
[12:45] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: oh and it shouldn't be "0 0" but more like "0 2"
[12:46] <MoPac> Hello. During an automatic GUI update, I've gotten a window asking to choose 0 or more drives/partitions to install/reinstall grub-pc. My system is dual-boot/multiboot, and it's all EFI, so I'm not sue if I should do anything here or not
[12:46] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, thanks.  one sec
[12:47] <MoPac> It gives me a choice of the main sda drive, the partition of it that mounts at /boot, or the crypt volume...but I'm not sure if, with EFI, I should be asking it to install grub-pc at all
[12:47] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, thanks.  I figured it out.  I had escaped the password because it has a ! in it
[12:48] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: ah. the conventional approach is to declare a credentials file, stored in /root/.smbpass and set that to 400 permissions
[12:49] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, yes, that's next on my list.  this box only has admin access anyways.
[12:55] <andywojo> ,
[13:01] <boodllebat> i want to use android mobile as web cam
[13:05] <yinee> hi
[13:05] <yinee> Chinese
[13:06] <daftykins> !cn
[13:08] <yinee> hey i could not log in telegram
[13:08] <yinee> I'm mainland
[13:08] <yinee> in mainland
[13:17] <HanksTs> help
[13:17] <daftykins> ask a question, HanksTs
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !help | HanksTs
[13:17] <ruind> anyone know how I can determine which ftp client I am using at the command line?
[13:18] <daftykins> which ftp?
[13:18] <ruind> daftykins, thats what Im asking
[13:21] <Jeeves_Moss> am I missing something when it comes to a fstab mount that when I try to change the premissions on a remote windows share, I get "premission denied"
[13:22] <daftykins> ruind: i typed it and i was thinking, is ruind going to understand that i mean that as a command? guess not :D "which ftp"
[13:24] <ruind> /usr/bin/ftp
[13:24] <ruind> lol
[13:24] <ruind> daftykins,
[13:24] <daftykins> so ftp --version ?
[13:25] <ruind> daftykins, tried all that no joy
[13:25] <ruind> -version
[13:25] <ruind> -v
[13:25] <ruind> etc
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ruind, dpkg -l ftp
[13:26] <cfhowlett> or apt-cache policy ftp
[13:28] <zetheroo> I am having difficulty joining Ubuntu to a Windows domain .
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !samba | zetheroo
[13:28] <ruind> yeah, it just says 0.17-28
[13:29] <ruind> i mean... there are a billion ftp clients out there with different verion numbers
[13:29] <ruind> which client is it
[13:29] <Pici> ruind: update-alternatives --list ftp
[13:30] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: according to the docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ad-integration.html) the first step is to "join an AD domain" using "Likewise-open", but it seems PBIS is now the thing to use.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, I've never  - samba'd.  I would think the #ubunut-server folk do all the time, though.
[13:31] <zombiefox> I would use either, I'd use sssd
[13:31] <zetheroo> ok
[13:31] <zombiefox> it's a lot less pain than winbind and the likes
[13:31] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: will ask them then
[13:31] <ruind> Pici, bingo!  netkit-ft
[13:34] <zombiefox> zetheroo: if they can't help, have a look at https://foss.biel-bienne.ch/blog/create-respin-with-uck.html   (the AD integration part)
[13:35] <zetheroo>  zombiefox: ok, thanks. Odd thing is that there are so many how-to's online with how this 'should' work ... :P
[13:36] <zombiefox> zetheroo: the one I linked is in front of me and works
[13:36] <zombiefox> my box is in our AD and I am logged in with my AD user, so I'd say it works :p
[13:36] <zetheroo>  zombiefox: that's great
[13:37] <zetheroo> and you just had to do the "Preparing Active Directory integration" part?
[13:37] <zombiefox> -ish, you have to configure mit-krb5 and sssd, neither is terribly hard
[13:38] <zombiefox> then you take the machine into ad with the command linked in the kinit article listed at the bottom -> done
[13:38] <zombiefox> s/kinit/msktutil/
[13:38] <zetheroo> hmm ... well when we are talking a handful of machines ... no ... but 20 - 40 systems? :)
[13:38] <zombiefox> but in general it's:  1) install sssd and mit-krb5  2) configure both  3) take machine into AD and create keytab 4) done, log in via AD account
[13:39] <zombiefox> so? I assume for a setup like that you have something like salt, ansible or puppet
[13:39] <zombiefox> which means that all of this can be fully automated. If you don't: you probably want to look into that first
[13:40] <zetheroo>  zombiefox: well according to what I was reading there was this straightforward way of adding an Ubuntu systems to AD domain ... so I really want to see if that's a dead end before launching into all this other stuff
[13:40] <zombiefox> I'd say that's rather straightforward, at least about as straightforward as winbind (samba) is. But feel free to try both :)
[13:41] <zetheroo> I am speaking of PBIS
[13:41] <zetheroo> ;)
[13:42] <zombiefox> that looks like a third party, non supported, non open solution
[13:42] <zombiefox> feel free to try it *shrug*
[13:43] <zetheroo> it's in the Ubuntu Server Guide https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ad-integration.html
[13:43] <zetheroo> the link directs right to it
[13:44] <zetheroo> that's what made me think it was the tried-and-proven way to do it
[13:45] <Haris> hello all
[13:45] <Haris> where's the crontab log ? its not in /var/log ?
[13:47] <Pici> Haris: execution of cron tasks is logged in /var/log/syslog
[14:04] <ubuntu-mate> ola
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate> alguem brasil
[14:05] <daftykins> !br
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate> estou testando a distro
[14:07] <ubuntu-mate> estou de saida vou  instala ela aqui gostei dela muito boa e rapida
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !english | ubuntu-mate,
[14:11] <melody> Hi, come and try our new chat rooms.... www.greekchat.eu
[14:11] <daftykins> melody: no, don't link again
[14:11] <daftykins> !spam
[14:12] <cfhowlett> spam and run ...
[14:12] <phix> Mornin'
[14:20] <segaboy_> test
[14:20] <anonymous_> test
[14:21] <daftykins> !test
[14:23] <JesusSaves> hi
[14:24] <andy__> I am having trouble printing on an Epson Artisan 710 printer.
[14:24] <andy__> It prints one document, but on the second, it says that the printer is disconnected.
[14:27] <phix> andy__: that's nice
[14:27] <phix> what does epson say about it?
[14:27] <phix> as they made the printer
[14:28] <phix> ubuntu didn't make it
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !cups | andy__
[14:28] <andy__> !thanks
[14:29] <andy__> !thanks | cfhowlett
[14:29] <cfhowlett> happy2help! andy__
[14:29] <slaffe> What do I need to do to be able to show the files/folders when browsing to my public_html as a user?
[14:29] <slaffe> www-root folder can be indexed, but not the private user dir
[14:30] <slaffe> will just show as blank page
[14:30] <rajput> helo
[14:31] <aldo> hello
[14:31] <rajput> what you do !
[14:32] <slaffe> Do I need to change something in apache.conf to be able to browse my user-web public_html? Now it just shows a blank page
[14:32] <daftykins> slaffe: ensure all site definitions don't conflict
[14:32] <slaffe> daftykins where do I do this?
[14:32] <kvgeorge1> Hello.  There is something majorly wrong with the current 14.04 patches.  After the latest software update, when I watch anything fullscreen, coming out of fullscreen locks my desktop - no mouse, no screen updates, no keyboard.  The only way to regain control is to forcably poweroff the machine (or I guess I could use another machine and SSH in, but still)
[14:33] <daftykins> slaffe: /etc/apache2/sites-available
[14:33] <daftykins> you know, apache configuration 101 :)
[14:33] <nrdb> hi I am trying to setup a external ssh into my machine (only RSA auth.) I think I have it right... I have setup the routers port forwarding etc ... I tried testing with the routers external IP address, but this is coming back with the error "Connection refused" ... the auth.log does not show any attempt for authentication! ... does anyone know what is wrong?
[14:33] <slaffe> I got no config there saying how my private public_html should show
[14:33] <slaffe> got plenty other configs there though
[14:33] <almark> apache.conf is hardly used on ubuntu
[14:34] <slaffe> my www.hostname.se/ this shows the directories and all the files, but not the www.hostname.se~/slaffe/
[14:34] <slaffe> erm
[14:34] <slaffe> .se/~slaffe/
[14:35] <daftykins> you need to add it to children then
[14:35] <soulja> hi
[14:35] <phix> slaffe: you a sweede?
[14:36] <almark> you've got to enable userdir slaffe
[14:36] <slaffe> i've enabled user dir, I can browse to for instance .se/~slaffe/whateverfile.jpg
[14:36] <mhnmcgk> I am trying to install bspwm on ubuntu. I setup .desktop file on /.xsessions with exec=bspwm. Still, lightdm doesn't go past the login screen
[14:37] <phix> mhnmcgk: what is bspwm?
[14:37] <mhnmcgk> phix: it's a window manager.
[14:37] <phix> mhnmcgk: never heard of it, how does it compare with xfce / gnome?
[14:37] <guest-UaxnAj> hi
[14:37] <phix> hi
[14:38] <kvgeorge1> There is something majorly wrong with the current 14.04 patches.  After the latest software update, when I watch anything fullscreen, coming out of fullscreen locks my desktop - no mouse, no screen updates, no keyboard.  The only way to regain control is to forcably poweroff the machine (or I guess I could use another machine and SSH in, but still)
[14:38] <mhnmcgk> phix: you don't compare a WM with a DE.
[14:38] <kvgeorge1> any suggestions on how to fix this?
[14:38] <phix> ok
[14:38] <slaffe> daftykins what do you mean?
[14:38] <mhnmcgk> phix: google images for bspwm
[14:38] <phix> mhnmcgk: ok
[14:38] <krux> mhnmcgk: try putting exec bspwm on ~/.xinitrc
[14:39] <guest-UaxnAj> iam run mangaka os what is password root deflute
[14:39] <krux> well nvm that will be if you use startx :S
[14:40] <krux> mhnmcgk: look at this link https://github.com/windelicato/dotfiles/wiki/bspwm-for-dummies
[14:42] <mhnmcgk> krux: That's the link I installed it from.
[14:42] <mhnmcgk> mhnmcgk: Unfortunately, It doesn't tell how to troubleshoot my case.
[14:42] <krux> did you restarted the display manager ?
[14:43] <slaffe> So, no one got a clue?
[14:43] <daftykins> someone replied to you
[14:43] <slaffe> Hmm? I got disconnected, missed that I guess
[14:44] <krux> and you copied bspwm-session to /usr/bin ? and bspwm.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/ ?
[14:46] <mhnmcgk> krux: I don't have a bspwm-session file in the contrib
[14:46] <mhnmcgk> and krux: I copied the .desktop
[14:47] <diogo_> oi
[14:47] <leeyaa> hello
[14:47] <diogo_> ola
[14:47] <krux> something you missed then bspwm-session is the binary that stars the wm.
[14:48] <leeyaa> what could be the reason for unattented_upgrade to tell me i have no packages for update but /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check says i have 3 packages for update (security packages)
[14:48] <krux> mhnmcgk: sudo cp contrib/freedesktop/bspwm-session /usr/bin ? << you checked inside freedesktop folder ?
[14:49] <mhnmcgk> krux: https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm/commit/2b5cf373dd3c96dc0c5c3b44fef911ab47f2712a
[14:49] <mhnmcgk> krux: He deleted that file in the latest commit
[14:49] <slaffe> ./etc/apache/mods-enabled/userdir.conf looks like this
[14:49] <slaffe>     DirectoryIndex index.php index index.html default.html default.htm
[14:49] <slaffe>     AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Indexes
[14:49] <slaffe>     Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec
[14:49] <slaffe> Should be all ok there?
[14:51] <spacebug^> Is UEFI-boot with GPT only required if boot disk is >2TB? Should I use USEFI anyway? Best practice?
[14:51] <krux> mhnmcgk: read the comment on the bottom of that link
[14:52] <krux> gotta go to work bbl
[14:53] <FrankFromHR> spacebug^: That is correct I believe.
[14:53] <jeskik> hi all
[14:54] <FrankFromHR> spacebug^: You could even boot from a >2TB drive but you'd only be able to create a partition that is 2TB max.
[14:54] <jeskik> what is the php hep channel?
[14:54] <kvgeorge1> Does anyone have experience with video issues using ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[14:54] <jeskik> help]
[14:56] <kvgeorge1> for some reason I got disconnected.  Here is my question again: Does anyone have experience troubleshooting video issues with 14.04?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !help | jeskik
[14:59] <spacebug^> FrankFromHR: ok Thanks
[14:59] <blib> network-manager now broken for 15.04? or is it just me?
[15:00] <gbit86__> Trying to mount a smb share using cifs-utils, and I have it mounting under the right user alright with permissions that look proper, but I still cannot write, or modify the files. I can only read. Any suggestions on what to try in my fstab or something else altogether??
[15:03] <gbit86__> testing, is this working?
[15:03] <jordan_> yes
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !test | gbit86__
[15:09] <leeyaa> can anyone suggest why would /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable give me 3 security packages for update yet unattented-upgrade does not upgrade anything ?
[15:10] <gbit86__> thanks, ubottu
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  that question is hard to read, please rephrase
[15:16] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable is supposed to tell me how many security packages i have for update
[15:16] <leeyaa> unattented-upgrade usually updates all such packages
[15:16] <leeyaa> for some reason now it doesn't work
[15:17] <leeyaa> or it does not find packages to update i don't know
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  15 here, upgrading now, to see what it does or doesnt do
[15:18] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: it worked fine on most servers
[15:18] <leeyaa> a few seem to have something wrong or buggy
[15:18] <Bern_> I assume when installing software on ubuntu the software center installs them on the same disc as the OS it self? If so, how can I change it? Dont feel like installing crap on a small SSD
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Bern_  you can download the source and install it where you want; not sure about dependencies, tho
[15:19] <Dasdre> I have a really weird problem
[15:20] <Dasdre> I get a black screen instead of a login screen
[15:20] <Dasdre> And nomodeset doesn't work
[15:20] <Dasdre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze that advice is irrelevant
[15:21] <Dasdre> Setting grub_gfxmode doesn't change anything
[15:21] <Dasdre> I can do ctrl alt f1, but no video
[15:21] <daftykins> Bern_: how small are we talking?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  yes, it upgrades a great deal here
[15:22] <daftykins> Dasdre: test another user / guest session
[15:22] <Dasdre> No login screen
[15:22] <Dasdre> I get the splash screen and then a black screen
[15:22] <Dasdre> Quiet splash shows it booting as usual
[15:22] <leeyaa> Dasdre: you can login from another terminal and check logs
[15:23] <Dasdre> leeyaa the logs seem pretty normal, I can get a root shell with recovery mode
[15:24] <Dasdre> Caps lock doesn't change the led
[15:24] <leeyaa> check X logs too
[15:24] <Dasdre> REISUB works
[15:24] <leeyaa> whatever your window manager is
[15:25] <ladyicarious> sam015:
[15:25] <ladyicarious> hi
[15:25] <Dasdre> Bern_ What about having /home on your HDD and / on your SSD?  Programs will be installed to / but their data is in /home
[15:25] <sam015> hi lady.......
[15:27] <AdyNO3> Hey all
[15:27] <AdyNO3> What is best file system for hidding files from microsoft?
[15:27] <AdyNO3> ext4?
[15:28] <AdyNO3>  
[15:28] <baizon> AdyNO3: BTRFS :D
[15:29] <Dasdre> Xorg logs seem normal
[15:29] <daftykins> Dasdre: share it.
[15:30] <pbx> AdyNO3, you're asking what filesystems cannot be read by Windows? i think that ext2 ext3 ext4 can all be read by windows with the right drivers
[15:30] <AdyNO3> Yes exactly that, file system that only linux can read
[15:32] <Dasdre> There are 2 files in /var/crash with the right date a
[15:32] <Dasdre> With relevant names
[15:32] <daftykins> AdyNO3: i think even trying to hide data that way is foolish
[15:32] <Dasdre> _usr_sbin_atieventsd.0.crash
[15:33] <Dasdre> And _usr_bin_sddm_greeter.115.crash
[15:33] <Dasdre> Lots of Base 64 stuff
[15:34] <FrankFromHR> 3
[15:34] <Dasdre> I think I know what it is
[15:34] <daftykins> !pm
[15:34] <Dasdre> Fglrx failed build
[15:35] <daftykins> sounds like your proprietary AMD module is not there
[15:35] <daftykins> Dasdre: had you pastebin'd /var/log/Xorg.0.log then this could've been discovered
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> FrankFromHR  use #test if you want to know you're still connected
[15:36] <Dasdre> No gui
[15:36] <daftykins> you don't need one
[15:36] <Dasdre> Lynx not installed
[15:36] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:37] <Dasdre> Should I reinstall fglrz
[15:37] <daftykins> the above first would be handy to confirm what's going on.
[15:37] <l1n3x> no sound any advice? installed lubuntu with unity and xubuntu installed
[15:38] <FrankFromHR> MonkeyDust: That wasn't what I was doing, that was a typo..
[15:38] <Dasdre> How do I use pastebin from a terminal?  Nectar?
[15:38] <Dasdre> *netcat
[15:39] <daftykins> Dasdre: < daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:40] <NTQ1> daftykins: I did a complete reinstall of my server without LVM. I think I got all things installed so far except strongswan. This should be the last step.
[15:40] <daftykins> neat
[15:41] <Dasdre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12118834
[15:41] <NTQ1> This time I also made a how to in case of an other reinstall xD
[15:42] <l1n3x> i guess my only solution is to reinstall?
[15:42] <daftykins> Dasdre: appears you're forcing a config with xorg.conf / xorg.conf.d/<stuff here> content
[15:42] <daftykins> Linlz: try a new user
[15:42] <l1n3x> me try a new user?
[15:42] <Dasdre> Daftykins Not manually
[15:43] <Dasdre> I think I moved xorg.Conf to force auto regen
[15:43] <daftykins> you shouldn't really need one at all
[15:43] <Bern_> I just DC'd. Someone here told me you could install software from source in order to get to pick destination? Im currently installing spotify, "sudo apt-get install spotify-client" would this command land the software on the same disk as the os?
[15:43] <daftykins> l1n3x: yeah sorry, tripped over your silly nick
[15:43] <daftykins> Linlz: sorry!
[15:43] <l1n3x> ok will come back with results
[15:43] <daftykins> Bern_: what's your SSD size?
[15:44] <daftykins> Bern_: and yes it would because you're not telling it to do anything different
[15:44] <Bern_> daftykins , 120gb
[15:44] <daftykins> Bern_: that's plenty for an ubuntu install to have tonnes of software installed there.
[15:44] <Dasdre> Daftykins Should I just reinstall fglrx?
[15:45] <daftykins> Dasdre: would you have installed from package, or official repos?
[15:45] <daftykins> er package being manual download from AMD
[15:45] <Dasdre> Official repos
[15:45] <daftykins> mmm well it finds fglrx ok, but fails to find fglrxdrm - though i suspect that might be optional
[15:46] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to purge the lot and try again
[15:46] <Dasdre> Apt-get Remove fglrx and apt get install flgrx
[15:46] <daftykins> no, purge
[15:46] <Bern_> daftykins , sure for software. But things like spotify have no need to have quick writing/reading speeds. I would rather sample some games or more heavy software in that. How do I command a different install location?
[15:46] <daftykins> Bern_: no you're being way too paranoid about SSD writes, all software should live on SSD.
[15:46] <daftykins> and you don't :)
[15:48] <Dasdre> Bern_ It might be easier to force OK to ssd
[15:48] <l1n3x> nope tryed new user still no sound
[15:48] <daftykins> l1n3x: well that's the only thought i had
[15:49] <daftykins> unless it's as simple as volume from pavucontrol / alsamixer
[15:49] <l1n3x> should i run sudo apt-get install alsamixer?
[15:49] <Dasdre> Stuck at Kubuntu logo it seems
[15:49] <Dasdre> Also mixer should be installed
[15:51] <Dasdre> Seems to be stuck, it usually boots much faster
[15:51] <l1n3x> ugh seems like im reinstalling wish me luck
[15:51] <BluesKaj> l1n3x: sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[15:51]  * YellowNeck what do you do?
[15:51] <l1n3x> have to log back into my sudo account
[15:51] <Dasdre> No disk io
[15:53] <OerHeks> Dasdre, try this: login with ctrl alt f2, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # and reboot
[15:55] <zetheroo> so, I have added the Ubuntu machine to the AD domain and am logged in as an AD user, however I cannot browse the domain computers and shares with Nautilus.
[15:55] <zetheroo> with "smbclient -L <windows-server-ip> -U< username>" I can list all the available shares though
[15:56] <ubuntuisawesome> This is a fucking test of changing the IRC mode
[15:56] <Dasdre> OerHoks, running it in recovery
[15:56] <daftykins> zetheroo: smbfs and smbclient installed? plus maybe even the full samba
[15:56] <zetheroo> but when trying to access the domain from within Nautilus I get a message saying "Unable to access location - Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection timed out"
[15:57] <OerHeks> !language | ubuntuisawesome
[15:57] <ubuntuisawesome> OK
[15:57] <PCatinean> I try to make a symbolic link but the destination address does not have the file I want
[15:57] <PCatinean> Why is it complaining?
[15:57] <PCatinean> It's about nginx sites enabled thing
[15:57] <OerHeks> Dasdre, oke, not possible to do that in recovery i guess
[15:57] <daftykins> PCatinean: are you sure nginx doesn't have a prog to do it for you like apache has a2ensite ?
[15:57] <zetheroo> daftykins: no installation candidate for smbfs
[15:58] <Dasdre> It installed amd64-microcode
[15:58] <zetheroo> daftykins: and yes, samba and smbclient are installed
[15:58] <daftykins> ah well
[15:58] <daftykins> zetheroo: guess you'll have to bury through some logs
[15:58] <OerHeks> Dasdre, oh, oke, microcode is not bad, but not your fglrx?
[15:58] <zetheroo> daftykins: which logs?
[15:58] <Dasdre> Fglrx has already been reinstalled
[15:59] <daftykins> logs pertaining to your issues...
[15:59] <daftykins> i'm not gonna say "read this file and this line number " :)
[15:59] <zetheroo> daftykins: not sure what those would be ... are there Nautilus error logs?
[16:00] <carlos> bbca
[16:01] <ioria> zetheroo,  i don't know AD ... but for win you use samba or cifs-utils
[16:01] <ioria> !info cifs-utils
[16:02] <Dasdre> Is caps lock handled by xorg?
[16:02] <zetheroo> ioria: yes, I have no probs with Windows shares in general - what I am dealing with here is domain shares for which access is handles by AD authentication
[16:02] <Dasdre> Because the part that 'S responsible seems dead
[16:03] <Dasdre> No light
[16:05] <ioria> zetheroo,  have you see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto ?
[16:05] <qkdt> Hello i hope this is the right place to ask those questions. I have an intel core I7 2.20GHz on a laptop and the powersaving is done by intel_pstate driver i chose the performance governor and i set the maximum frequency to 2.21GHz but when i watch youtube videos the frequency is most of the time 3.10GHz which is a lot and the cpu gets to very high temperatures ~85 degrees i also have turbo boost enabled and active if that helps.
[16:07] <qkdt> #ubuntu-ro
[16:07] <qkdt> sorry :D
[16:07] <Dasdre_> Should I uninstall fglrx?
[16:10] <Dasdre_> What to do? Any logs I can share?
[16:11] <daftykins> Xorg.0.log again
[16:11] <daftykins> i'm heading out for a few though
[16:12] <Dasdre_> Daftykins date is the same
[16:12] <daftykins> so it hasn't run
[16:15] <SCHAAP137> anyone running Ubuntu MATE and experience that the indicator icons in the top right don't center-align immediately?
[16:15] <SCHAAP137> only after resizing the upper pane, they do
[16:15] <SCHAAP137> is there a fix for this?
[16:16] <SCHAAP137> initially they bottom-align within the indicator area in the pane, but i'd like them to center-align directly, if possible
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> qkdt  you can use indicator-cpufreq to change it on the fly... also install thermald to manage your machine's heat
[16:17] <qkdt> i already have thermald MonkeyDust, here look at  this: http://codepad.org/hrEKgm9X
[16:17] <snowkidind> newbie question. trying to setup a cron job mysql dump. i want the backup to show the date in the title. i think you use a command like mysqlbackup/msanzo_'date +\%m+\%d+\%Y'.sql but i can’t seem to get it working. Is there something special I don’t know about the tick mark syntax? I believe the command is trying to run a date function, but it isn’t working
[16:17] <qkdt> MonkeyDust: it says  the frequency should be between 1.20 and 2.21 but it goes higher
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> snowkidind: I thnk it's    mysqlbackup/msanzo_$(date +\%m+\%d+\%Y).sql
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> snowkidind: the guys in #bash may be able to advise
[16:18] <snowkidind> that did it
[16:18] <snowkidind> thas a bunch
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> qkdt  odd, but my tip still holds: install indicator-cpufreq
[16:18] <snowkidind> but i still wonder about why tick marks look different sometimes
[16:19] <qkdt> MonkeyDust: oki i will give it a try
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> snowkidind: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-appleosx-bsd-shell-appending-date-to-filename/
[16:19] <dryicebomb> snowkidind: it looks like single quotes on the line that you pasted, not backticks
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> or that way
[16:19] <snowkidind> yea whats up with the backticks
[16:20] <snowkidind> what does that tell shell to do? encase a command?
[16:20] <snowkidind> i guess?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: maybe there is a config file to set the panel size to the size you are setting it at and then maybe it will go to the middle
[16:21] <TheEagerPadawan> how do i change the dns server that my computer uses
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: tempoarily or permanently?
[16:21] <SCHAAP137> hmm, interesting approach ActionParsnip, i could try that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: seems to be in ~/.mateconf/apps/panel/*
[16:22] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParsnip: permanently
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: not something I use, but worth a play. Just make backup copies of files before you edit them#
[16:22] <snowkidind> oh i get it after reading it is pretty much a like a macro
[16:22] <TheEagerPadawan> brb
[16:22] <SCHAAP137> the aligning seems to take place independently from panel size though, so if i change the panel size and reboot, they're equally unaligned irrespective of the panel size
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> TheEagerPadawan  sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base ... nameserver x.x.x.x ...  save ... sudo resolvconf -u ... done!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: I use  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head personally, add the "nameserver a.b.c.d" lines at the bottom of that file and it will override anything you get from DHCP :)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: eg:    echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: you will need to rerequest DHCP to make it reapply.If you are using a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces then put the nameserver line directly into /etc/hosts
[16:27] <retro> whatsup
[16:28] <Guest81870> hey
[16:28] <Guest81870> whatsup people
[16:28] <Guest81870> po lypshi ropt me jav qi
[16:29] <Guest81870> besomni
[16:29] <Guest81870> po folni tkarit
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest81870  what's you're language? find a channel accordingly
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> gone
[16:30] <downbeam> does anyone know how to install powerpoint viewer?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> !powerpoint | downbeam start here
[16:34] <khax> downbeam i use microsoft office installed via playonlinux ..
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> i use ms office in vbox, winxp
[16:35] <khax> nice :)
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> downbeam: have you tried it in LibreOffice ?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> downbeam: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21697
[16:37] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed this instruction to install finger print reader, but it just changed the graphic of the system to KDE like graphic. (I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on lenovo T440s) Do you know what should I do to fix it?
[16:37] <mojtaba> http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> downbeam: the viwer seems to be ok in WINE
[16:38] <maintenance> Hi all, sorry for my bad english, i m a french user ;-) i looking for nautilus script for search files in a folder and children, advice please ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> maintenance: could use find in terminal....
[16:39] <maintenance> ActionParsnip, Yes, but i prefer graphical interface
[16:39] <TheEagerPadawan> ok back guys, how do i change the dns that use permanently
[16:39] <ioria> !info  gnome-search-tool
[16:40] <maintenance> thanks all and have fun
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: I told you already
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> maintenance: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nautilus+Search+Here?content=126647
[16:41] <demonlove> what is the main  difference between su  and sudo?
[16:41] <SCHAAP137> sudo is used in combination with other commands, demonlove
[16:41] <maintenance> oops i ve forget a litte change, i use cinamom..no problem with cinamom and gnome search tool ?
[16:41] <SCHAAP137> as to execute it with superuser powers
[16:42] <SCHAAP137> su is used for switching between users, mainly from non-root to root
[16:42] <Dasdre_> The new pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119199
[16:42] <SCHAAP137> it could be used in similar ways though demonlove, but this would be the main difference
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: sudo is more controlled, you can specify what commands a user can run using visudo. su will let you run any command as long as you know the password of the account you are su'ing to
[16:42] <Dasdre_> daftykins
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> maintenance: MATE is based on GTK
[16:43] <maintenance> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:43] <demonlove> do running make command needs any extra plugin?
[16:43] <Dasdre_> My X seems to be completely dead
[16:44] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed this instruction to install finger print reader, but it just changed the graphic of the system to KDE like graphic. (I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on lenovo T440s) Do you know what should I do to fix it?  http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:44] <Dasdre_> When I start it, it freezes, caps led stops working, and monitor goes black
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-su-and-sudo/
[16:45] <ioria> Dasdre_, try to boot , removing "quite splash", i know is silly ... but it's easy to try
[16:45] <Dasdre_> I've done that
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: make (as long as the files are in your user's $HOME) will not need sudo, as you are only writing to files and folders in $HOME, so sudo is not needed)
[16:45] <Dasdre_> It looks like it's booting normally
[16:45] <Dasdre_> But no login screen
[16:45] <ioria> Dasdre_, you can restart lightdm service ?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: if you press CTRL + ALT + F1, can you log in there?
[16:46] <Dasdre_> No screen
[16:46] <Dasdre_> I can log in
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: oh...headless box you mean?
[16:46] <daftykins> Dasdre_: be funny if this whole time you had a second display plugged in
[16:46] <Dasdre_> It becomes headless when I start z
[16:46] <Dasdre_> *x
[16:46] <demonlove> ActionParsnip: no this this my another question free from sudo
[16:47] <ioria> Dasdre_,  ati legacy card ?
[16:47] <Dasdre_> Daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119199
[16:47] <demonlove> do i need any extra intallation for running make cmd?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: After you start x , drop back to TTY1 and read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:47] <Dasdre_> 270x, worked fine yesterday
[16:47] <OerHeks> demonlove, try it, any error will give a clue what -dev packages you need
[16:47] <Dasdre_> There's a crash log from the same time
[16:48] <Dasdre_> I logged lut
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: you'll need the build-essentials package
[16:48] <Dasdre_> ActionParsnip The xorg log is in the pastebin
[16:48] <daftykins> Dasdre_: still seems pretty unhappy, but no content. make sure there's no xorg.conf (rename it) and perhaps empty xorg.conf.d/
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> or build-essential   I forget
[16:48] <OerHeks>  !build
[16:48] <daftykins> build-essential yep :)
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Dasdre_: if you blacklist the proprietary video driver, is it ok?
[16:49] <BrazenBraden> im running ubuntu 14.04. no external gfx card atm as it fried so running off onboard HD5000. when I fullscreen any web video (flash / html5) all my 4 cores almost hit 100% usage. fine with VLC and other media players. how do I fix this?
[16:49] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParsnip: what if i use a both IPv4 and IPv6 can i just add nameserver <someip6> in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:49] <ismail_> hello
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: the head file contains the text that says "don't edit this file" so any text you add to it will be assumed to be the header. The fact that it is a valid config line is just extra
[16:50] <ismail_> im new
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: or you can set the name servers if you are using the /etc/network/interfaces file by adding more lines
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: the GUI network manager app will allow you to set DNS servers too
[16:50] <Dasdre_> The recovery menu shows äöåöäå in the border instead of whatever it should be
[16:51] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParSnip: i prefer learning the cli way ;)
[16:51] <nrdb> I am having trouble with ssh :-( ... I can connect successfully locally ... but not remotely ... I setup tcpdump to show me the packets .... when I try to connect remotely, I see the TCP packets come in, but there are no reply packets ... any ideas why?
[16:51] <demonlove> ActionParsnip: how to know which are my essential pacakage?
[16:51] <demonlove> and why did it not come by defalt
[16:52] <demonlove> ?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> demonlove: experience
[16:52] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParsnip: thanks for the advice ;)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> TheEagerPadawan: its a hack (the way I do it, but it works)
[16:53] <mojtaba> Hi, I have followed this instruction to install finger print reader, but it just changed the graphic of the system to KDE like graphic. (I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on lenovo T440s) Do you know what should I do to fix it?  http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[16:53] <mojtaba> No one?
[16:53] <Dasdre> http://i.imgur.com/xif7qqa.jpg
[16:53] <mojtaba> Please help :(
[16:53] <TheEagerPadawan> ActionParSnip: even better
[16:53] <Dasdre> Mojtaba do you have the issue with KDE?
[16:53] <daftykins> mojtaba: "graphic of the system" = ?
[16:54] <mojtaba> Dasdre: The top menu is just transparent. I can post a picture.
[16:54] <demonlove> ActionParsnip: one more thing which is  better flavour in term of devlopment gnome or kbuntu or xbuntu
[16:54] <ioria> Dasdre_,  have you tired to remove your drivers ?
[16:54] <Dasdre> http://i.imgur.com/xif7qqa.jpg this might be related to my issue
[16:54] <ioria> *tried
[16:54] <Dasdre> Gonna remove fglrx real quick
[16:55] <dev-code> guys
[16:55] <dev-code> what happen with flash on ubuntu
[16:55] <dev-code> the last upgrade
[16:55] <Ben64> dev-code: explain
[16:55] <Dasdre> Why do you want flash?
[16:55] <dev-code> to see movies on internet
[16:56] <dev-code> for e.j
[16:56] <TJ-> dev-code: what is the actually problem?
[16:56] <Dasdre> Vlx
[16:56] <daftykins> flash in firefox has been pretty terrible for a while, install chromium/chrome and pepperflash if you want a better experience
[16:56] <Dasdre> *vlc
[16:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: Dasdre: http://picpaste.com/df-T8GNCfQg.png
[16:57] <dev-code> i've done the last upgrade on ubuntu and one of them was to update my flash plugin and now, no video online I cant see
[16:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: By graphic I mean appearance.
[16:57] <TJ-> dev-code: using what Browser/version?
[16:57] <daftykins> mojtaba: so the way it's green?
[16:58] <dev-code> Opera, Chromium, Firefox Developer edition Konqueror
[16:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: no. The top menu is transparent and folder icons are like the one in kde.
[16:58] <Dasdre> It works when I uninstall fglrx, but no cursor
[16:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: I do not know why this happened?!
[16:58] <daftykins> ah yeah, funky.
[16:58] <demonlove> i need some recording software for ubuntu to  make video tutorials
[16:58] <Dasdre> Mojtaba what about right click - > panel settings?
[16:58] <daftykins> mojtaba: and this persists across reboots etc?
[16:59] <demonlove> which is best one?
[16:59] <mojtaba> daftykins: yes
[16:59] <mojtaba> Dasdre: How can I check that?
[16:59] <dev-code> demonlove, RecordMyDesktop from Store
[16:59] <dev-code> TJ?
[16:59] <dev-code> TJ-, ?
[16:59] <mojtaba> Dasdre: You mean when I right click on the desktop? (yes the right click panel has also changed
[17:00] <Dasdre> Mojtaba right click on the panel,  panel settings, and then transparency
[17:00] <Dasdre> Or color
[17:00] <demonlove> dev-code but i  think that is ppa
[17:00] <demonlove> installing ppa  isn't right i  think
[17:00] <demonlove> isn't?
[17:00] <mojtaba> Dasdre: Where is the panel?
[17:01] <Dasdre> No mouse /keyboard support now when I disable fglrx
[17:01] <Dasdre> On top
[17:01] <kadiro> demonlove: in some case yes
[17:01] <Dasdre> The green transparent thing with the icons
[17:01] <mojtaba> daftykins: right click does not work there
[17:01] <daftykins> tab complete fail :>
[17:01] <mojtaba> Dasdre: It is unity
[17:02] <Dasdre> Oh. It might have loaded gnome fallback
[17:02] <TJ-> dev-code: I don't have flash-plugin installed it is too much of a security risk. Check the package changelog/report a bug against it if you experience problems.
[17:02] <demonlove> kadiro: how to know which are some good cases don't say  experience.,.
[17:02] <mojtaba> Dasdre: I just followed this: http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[17:02] <mojtaba> Dasdre: and then this mess happened
[17:03] <TJ-> dev-code: The changelog says new upstream release New upstream release 11.2.202.508  on 10th August
[17:03] <kadiro> demonlove: when we can't find a package from softwere manager then yes we must try some ppa's
[17:03] <ioria> Dasdre_,  maybe it's not completely  purged ....
[17:04] <TJ-> mojtaba: what benefit is the FPR going to give? FPs aren't safe for authentication (i.e. as a substitute for passwords), only for identity
[17:04] <Dasdre> ioria why is my mouse dead?
[17:04] <mojtaba> TJ-: You are right. But it messed up my theme. ( I do not know what else has happened back the scene.) Do you know how can I fix the issue?
[17:05] <Dasdre> It gets power but won't send stuff
[17:05] <Dasdre> Back light works
[17:05] <OerHeks> demonlove, look at the ubuntu-studio package list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Applications
[17:05] <TJ-> mojtaba: I'm sorry I don't. I tried that FPR GUI some time ago (about 18 months) but it was so problematic (causing random freezes of login) I removed it
[17:05] <daftykins> Dasdre: sure you don't have a TV plugged in? :D
[17:06] <daftykins> the desktop could be over there all along
[17:06] <ioria> Dasdre_,  if you run a script to install it, you have to use it with unistall flag , then purge with apt and check if there still an /etc/ati or a /usr/lib/fglrx
[17:06] <mojtaba> TJ-: I removed it too, but still I have the problem :(
[17:06] <demonlove> and what is actully ppa means can i  assume it as third party software
[17:06] <TJ-> mojtaba: Hmmm... did you follow the instructions about replacing policykit?
[17:06] <kadiro> yes demonlove
[17:06] <ioria> Dasdre_,  and back up an eventually xorg.conf
[17:06] <mojtaba> TJ-: yes
[17:07] <SparkMasterTape> PPA - Personal Package Archive
[17:08] <demonlove> how is plugin diff from ppa?
[17:08] <TJ-> mojtaba: I'm not sure then. Maybe read back through "/var/log/apt/history.log" to find out if any packages were removed/replaced at the time the FPR GUI was installed... and ensure they're installed now if os
[17:08] <TJ-> !ppa | demonlove
[17:09] <dasdre_> Should I kill xorg.conf?
[17:10] <daftykins> Dasdre: i did say this ages ago.
[17:10] <ioria> Dasdre_,  you make a backup
[17:10] <kadiro> dasdre_: xorgcon is a file
[17:10] <daftykins> i guess i shall stop helping
[17:10] <mojtaba> TJ-: Can you figure it out if I pastebinit here?
[17:11] <mojtaba> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119381/
[17:12] <dasdre_> I removed xorg.conf earlier
[17:12] <dasdre_> It doesn't regen
[17:12] <dasdre_> (before joining this irc)
[17:13] <mojtaba> dasdre_: daftykins: could you please check the output of the apt/history? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119381/
[17:13] <daftykins> nope sorry.
[17:13] <mojtaba> daftykins: ok, thanks
[17:13] <demonlove> help me with my previous question i   was offline for amoment
[17:14] <kadiro> !ppa | demonlove
[17:14] <ioria> dasdre_, if you run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*   ?
[17:14] <OerHeks> demonlove, comparing the ppa version with our repos ? why ?
[17:14] <demonlove> and what abt plugin
[17:15] <OerHeks> demonlove, don't use ppa's, unless you can fix things yourself.
 no comparison is going on but tell me m  using 14.04 and the link which u  have sent me is for 11.10
[17:15] <demonlove> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Applications
[17:16] <k1l_> demonlove: for video cutting there are several different program sin the official repos already. look at avidemux, kdenlive, openshot, pitivi, ...
[17:16] <nrdb> I am having trouble with ssh :-( ... I can connect successfully locally ... but not remotely ... I setup tcpdump to show me the packets .... when I try to connect remotely, I see the TCP packets come in, but there are no reply packets ... any ideas why?
[17:16] <demonlove> screen recorder
[17:17] <k1l_> demonlove: what about you look at that answers? http://askubuntu.com/questions/4428/how-to-create-a-screencast
[17:18] <kadiro> is there any vdr channel for ubuntu? i found one but i think is related to gentoo #gentoo-vdr
[17:18] <demonlove> THANKS KLL
[17:18] <k1l_> kadiro: did alis list one?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: how do you mean remotely?
[17:18] <k1l_> !alis | kadiro
[17:18] <kadiro> no just one #gentoo-vdr
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: do yo mean from outside your LAN?
[17:19] <k1l_> kadiro: then there is none
[17:19] <kadiro> Omg
[17:19] <k1l_> kadiro: you could ask here instead
[17:20] <kadiro> ubuntu have no channel for vdr it's odd
[17:20] <kadiro> i have a question about how adding bis to an encrypted channel
[17:22] <kadiro> I asked here many time but no chance
[17:22] <mojtaba> If I upgrade to 15.04 will it restore the theme to the default Unity one?
[17:25] <OerHeks> kadiro, never seen your question before, but what do you want with "how adding bis to an encrypted channel" ?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: how do you mean remotely?
[17:26] <k1l_> mojtaba: is the guest account or another user working correctly?
[17:27] <mojtaba> k1l_: I should test that one
[17:27] <kadiro> OerHeks: thank's for response, i have one encrypted channel ( in my country ) and i would to decrypt it from vdr, i can do that from windows, but i need from ubuntu because i don't use windows just if i should to do
[17:28] <OerHeks> kadiro, then you have one chance: chrome browser ( with buildin DRM stuff)
[17:29] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, I have a VPN to a remote computer, I am using this to test the external (i.e. via internet) login.   When I test from the local LAN it works great, but not from the external I.P.
[17:29] <kadiro> OerHeks: DRM, what that means?
[17:30] <OerHeks> = encrypted
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: why not port forward TCP/22 to the system running the SSH server? Then you can connect to WAN.IP.goes.here port 22
[17:30] <kadiro> OerHeks: from my sattelite card ?
[17:30] <mojtaba> k1l_: Guess session works fine
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: did you check routing is pushing the traffic for your LAN down the VPN?
[17:31] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, that is what I have been trying to get working.  The port forwarding seems to be OK, the packet get the the computer running the sshd.
[17:31] <mojtaba> k1l_: Do you know what should I do?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: does the network you are sat on externally and the one you are VPNing have the same subnet (lots of home networks use 192.168.0.0/24)
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: so if you are connecting from a 192.68.0.0/24 to another 192.68.0.0/24 network, it won't work
[17:32] <OerHeks> kadordo only chrome can play *some* DRM channels such as netflix, do some research, ubuntu + your country + that bis channel
[17:32] <k1l_> mojtaba: what was the issue again? a bad theme?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: if this is the case you will need to change the subnet of your network to be different so that the networks are different
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: something like 10.0.0.0/24 is fine too
[17:33] <kadiro> OerHeks: you means read from internet?
[17:34] <k1l_> mojtaba: to clear all the unity settings try this command: "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*"
[17:34] <kadiro> streaming
[17:34] <mojtaba> k1l_: I just installed finger reader software, and just messed up with the default theme of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:34] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, I found the problem ... I have been have trouble before with the default route on this server... I fixed and everything is OK (for ssh) ... now to figure out why the default route is not working... thanks!
[17:35] <OerHeks> kadiro, yes, is this so hard to understand?
[17:36] <k1l_> mojtaba: if that didnt work try reinstalling the libgtk-3-common package
[17:36] <kadiro> OerHeks: not hard but my question is about vdr from my card sattelite, my internet is very slow i can't watch  minutes normally, for  minutes i must stay for  minutes or more
[17:37] <kadiro> 3 minutes waiting for 10 or more
[17:37] <pigeon-> Any reason why my uBuntu freeze while I am using firefox,  or when I am in my bank acccount
[17:37] <k1l_> mojtaba: i am away now. if this doesnt help please ask again with describing the issue so others can jump in.
[17:38] <bgolden> Hi Sheldon.  R u there?
[17:39] <kadiro> any one have any information to seeing encrypted ( bis only ) from vdr?
[17:40] <nrdb> pigeon-, mine doesn't
[17:41] <kadiro> OerHeks: thk's anyway for trying to helpe me
[17:45] <winsux> i would like to backup my partition table so that i can restore it if gparted or something else messes up my partition table. what is considered best practise to backup the table?
[17:50] <winsux1> gparted tells me i have 12 partitions and some unallocated space. issuing sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/root/myparttable bs=1K count=1024 copies the first MB on my drive, but i don't know if this will contain the gpt (i don't think there is a mbr)
[17:51] <winsux1> how can i be sure that this really contains my gpt?
[17:52] <genii> try running gparted on the image file
[17:54] <winsux1> genii: gparted /root/myparttable gives me 'end of file while reading No such file or directory'
[17:54] <genii> Bah.
[17:55] <genii> winsux1: What says result of: file /root/myparttable   ..?
[17:55] <winsux1> genii: /root/myparttable: x86 boot sector
[17:57] <winsux1> genii: the file does have a mbr boot signature at 0x1fe
[17:57] <kadiro> I think gparted work only in device and not in files
[17:58] <genii> kadiro: If you have a full image file of the drive, gparted and fdisk work fine on them. But looks like not if you just have the MBR or a partial
[17:59] <kadiro> thank you genii that help me
[17:59] <winsux1> kadiro: i thought so too, but i don't know how you can export the partition table so that gparted can rescue the device if the partition table gets corrupted
[18:00] <genii> winsux1: Unfortunately i don't know wenough about GPT for this. If it was a regular MBR would be easy
[18:00] <pigeon-> ok thanks nrdb
[18:00] <stevo_> guys how can i change the color :D
[18:00] <kadiro> where stevo_ ?
[18:00] <stevo_> on the GUI
[18:00] <stevo_> of smuxi
[18:01] <stevo_> :D
[18:01] <winsux1> genii: yeah, mbr is easier. do you know if there is a tool that can export/import gpt?
[18:02] <TJ-> winsux1: "sgdisk --backup=/path/to/file /dev/sdX" - see "man sgdisk"
[18:02] <ioria> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57908/how-can-i-quickly-copy-a-gpt-partition-scheme-from-one-hard-drive-to-another
[18:02] <winsux1> genii: thanks. i'm going to take a look at sgdisk then
[18:03] <uberamd> Hi all, I'm getting a Hash Sum mismatch on the Translation-en files when doing an apt-get update
[18:03] <kadiro> winsux1: good to heard this information
[18:04] <winsux1> ioria: thanks for the link. sgdisk seems to do what i want
[18:04] <uberamd> But looking at the sha1 sum in the index file it matches the sha1 of the file itself
[18:04] <uberamd> "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en  Hash Sum mismatch"
[18:04] <ioria> winsux1, good luck
[18:05] <TJ-> uberamd: Possibly caused because the archive mirror is/was in the process of sync-ing with the master
[18:06] <uberamd> TJ-: thought about that possibility however it's been a few hours now with the same results, switched to some differnet mirrors like lug.mtu.edu or de.archive.ubuntu.com and get the same result
[18:06] <postmodern> just updated and now i can't login, even though i had auto-login enabled
[18:06] <TJ-> uberamd: Was that after "apt-get update" too?
[18:06] <uberamd> TJ-: the apt-get update is what causes it
[18:06] <ioria> uberamd, it happened to me... after a couple, it disappeared
[18:06] <uberamd> ioria: ah gotcha thanks all
[18:07] <genii> uberamd: Delete the cahed lists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and /var/lib/apt/lists/partial   and then run sudo apt-get update again
[18:07] <TJ-> uberamd: No, apt-get reports it, it doesn't cause it. The way to test is to manually fetch the file and check its signature, and the hash. if it matches you know the local cached copy of the index/Package files are the problem.
[18:09] <uberamd> TJ-: sha1 of http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en matches the sha1 listed here: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/i18n/Index
[18:09] <pk_102> hi guys.. i am trying to match the cpu utilization statistics as found in /proc/<pid>/stat and /proc/stat.. But the utilization values dont match. I dont know what i am doing wrong.
[18:10] <postmodern> cltr+alt+FN isn't bringing up a terminal
[18:10] <kadiro> any one know a channel about vdr? please !!
[18:10] <TJ-> uberamd: so the local cached lists then, genii's suggestion should clear it
[18:11] <uberamd> TJ-: Tried removing everything from those dir's a few times and did an apt-get clean, but alas, same problem on multiple boxes
[18:11] <uberamd> TJ-: not sure if it's caching something elsewhere, but if it is then I have no idea where it's hiding stuff
[18:12] <genii> postmodern: Did you boot into recovery mode? If so there's only one console
[18:12] <TJ-> uberamd: is the network behind some kind of proxy that is injecting something into those files? check the contents of the local files in apt's cache. I've often seen them contain Captive Portal log-in pages and other things like 404's from misconfigured load balancers
[18:12] <uberamd> TJ-: Good call, I'll check!
[18:14] <genii> postmodern: Wait, are you using the key on a laptop called FN, or are you using one the F1 through F6 keys instead?
[18:14] <postmodern> genii, how do i get to recovery mode if i have the grub boot menu disabled
[18:15] <jean-guy> Hi, Is there any ways I can verify the proper functionning of my ubuntu? it's freezing on me some times?
[18:15] <postmodern> genii, holding down the shift key does nothing during boot
[18:16] <genii> postmodern: If left alone does it boot into Ubuntu normally, or dump you to a grub prompt, or something else?
[18:17] <postmodern> genii, it boots to the lightdm login screen, but can't login
[18:17] <snowkidind> i have a NAS that i want to mount and copy backup files to. My question is: the drive is asleep when the server begins to the copy action, how do i ensure that the cronjob will work?
[18:17] <ioria> postmodern, ctrl-alt-f2 ?
[18:18] <pigeon-> hi Jean-Guy....  I have the same question,
[18:18] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I control premissions on a windows share from a linux mount?
[18:18] <genii> postmodern: When it hits the login screen try then the ctrl-alt-F1  ( or F2, I forget if lightdm runs on the first console or the 7th like X does) and see if you get a console login instead
[18:19] <kadiro> jean-guy, pigeon- your problem is related may be on graphic card, i hop someone can help you
[18:19] <postmodern> genii, ctrl-alt-FN just brings me to a blank screen, no login prompt
[18:20] <genii> postmodern: When you say "ctrl-alt-FN" is "FN" the key labelled FN on your keyboard, or one of the Function keys labelled F1, F2, F3, F4, etc ?
[18:20] <postmodern> genii, it's F1
[18:20] <pigeon-> tanks Kadiro... much appreaciate, I will check my graphic card
[18:20] <kadiro> you welcome pigeon-
[18:20] <postmodern> genii, i used to run gentoo, i'm not that clueless ;)
[18:21] <genii> postmodern: Try F2 instead
[18:21] <postmodern> genii, same effect
[18:21] <TJ-> postmodern: the black screen VT issue is usually caused by a video driver that doesn't properly support modesetting, and the usual solution (if you can intercept GRUB bootloader) is to add "nomodeset" to the kernel command line... sounds like you can't do that right now?
[18:21] <genii> postmodern: Try hitting enter a couple times in one of those
[18:21] <postmodern> genii, already tried that, no go
[18:21] <genii> work, afk
[18:22] <TJ-> postmodern: Do you have openssh-server installed, and do you have another PC you can remotely log-in from?
[18:22] <postmodern> TJ-, what if grub won't appear and you don't have sshd running?
[18:22] <jean-guy> Thanks Kadiro, do you know if is there's a way for testing or if we discard? Many thanks again.
[18:22] <OerHeks> postmodern, how did you manage to block grubmenu??
[18:22] <TJ-> postmodern: If you've disabled GRUB's 'shift' key show-boot-manager option then it's Live-ISO boot/recovery time :)
[18:23] <postmodern> TJ-, shift does nothing
[18:23] <postmodern> TJ-, ok was hoping to avoid using a livecd
[18:23] <postmodern> TJ-, thanks!
[18:23] <ioria> postmodern, you have to try few times with shift ... or esc
[18:23] <Hudsonkem> postmodern try press ESC many times on bootin
[18:24] <kadiro> jean-guy: I'm not an expert, but i think you can install a driver from software manager if you know yours
[18:24] <TJ-> postmodern: which release of Ubuntu is it? If it is using GRUB v2 then the key is "shift' ... and needs to be continuously held down from the time the firmware's POST (power on self test) / splash display is active
[18:25] <Hudsonkem> TJ v2 works with ESC too
[18:25] <TJ-> postmodern: is the keyboard USB, or built-in, or PS/2 style?
[18:26] <pigeon-> you have a good idea Kadiro...  I will also check the drivers for my video card...
[18:26] <postmodern> Hudsonkem, ah ha, that worked!
[18:26] <Apachez> what happend to fglrx the other day? ubuntu 15.04 refuse to boot with fglrx installed "running in low-graphics mode"
[18:26] <Hudsonkem> :)
[18:26] <oross> test
[18:27] <postmodern> TJ-, ok i appended nomodeset to the kernel args, but it still just boots to lightdm and won't login, and the VTs are blank
[18:28] <TJ-> postmodern: Now you can prevent the GUI starting... as well as "nomodeset" add "text" to do a VT console-only start
[18:28] <TJ-> postmodern: if that gives you a working terminal, you can start to work on the issues
[18:29] <TJ-> postmodern: which ubuntu release is it?
[18:29] <Hudsonkem> postmodern tried click on screen sometimes?
[18:31] <postmodern> ok finally found recovery mode (under Advanced Boot options)
[18:32] <spacebug^> how well today does Ubuntu / GNU/Linux handle 4K monitors/scaling?
[18:32] <ioria> postmodern, choose network if you want rw mode
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> spacebug^  that's a very general question, start here   https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+4k+monitor&t=canonical
[18:34] <postmodern> ah yes, got a segfault from fglx
[18:38] <lrs_> My /boot is full. How do i clean it without fucking everything up
[18:38] <lrs_> It seems like it fucks with my system
[18:38] <Hudsonkem> postmodern, resolution error may do it too.(blank screen)
[18:39] <ioria> df -H ?
[18:39] <lrs_> ioria, Is that to me+
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> lrs_  by not using the f word
[18:39] <ioria> lrs_ yep
[18:40] <lrs_> *smeg
[18:40] <Hudsonkem> lrs_ full how? partition /boot full is it?
[18:40] <lrs_> Yeah it has 4 mb left
[18:40] <ioria> with kernels
[18:40] <lrs_> And it seems to give me problems when i install stuff
[18:40] <ioria> lrs_  how many kernels do you have ?
[18:41] <lrs_> How many? Do you mean kernels that I can fall back on?
[18:41] <lrs_> I thought you only could have one kernel
[18:41] <ioria> lrs_  ls /boot
[18:42] <ioria> lrs_  no, if you don't rum apt-get autoremove you can have a lot
[18:42] <lrs_> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119853/
[18:42] <ioria> lrs_  you got 7
[18:42] <lrs_> Which one? the abi ones?
[18:43] <lrs_> Thats the kernel?
[18:43] <lrs_> or vmlinuz?
[18:43] <ioria> lrs_  uname -r
[18:43] <lrs_> 3.13.0-58-generic
[18:43] <ioria> lrs_   should be 61
[18:43] <Hudsonkem> wow u have alot ^^
[18:44] <lrs_> Hmmm
[18:44] <lrs_> What does that mean?
[18:45] <ioria> lrs_    well, usually you run sudo apt-get autoremove to free space
[18:45] <lrs_> Should i do that?
[18:45] <AEL-H1> I am running kde 4.8.5 on Ubuntu 12.0.4.5 and I am having problems with skype picking up my speakers and microphone, can anyone provide some guidance or help me work out what the issue is? I have very little experience with linux
[18:45] <ioria> lrs_    i do that... but i don't know if you have specifi issues
[18:45] <ioria> *c
[18:46] <lrs_> It says 363 mb will be freed
[18:46] <lrs_> Im gonna try
[18:46] <ioria> lrs_    like some exotic hardware that will work only on a specific kernel ... are you ?
[18:47] <lrs_> Well, this whole thing started with me not being able to run optirun steam
[18:47] <lrs_> So its a primus nvidia driver
[18:47] <lrs_> So i figured, maybe theres something wrong so i did sudo apt get update
[18:47] <Hudsonkem> if he is running with -58 so maybe its fine.
[18:47] <lrs_> And then it give me out of free space gzip something
[18:48] <Guiri> I'm having some trouble performing a `dist-upgrade`.  I don't seem to have a var/log/messages to tail.  Is there a way to get more information on this error? http://fpaste.org/256421/39923582/ I'm on 14.04.2.  Thanks in advance.
[18:48] <lrs_> Also, I had a problem with initramfstools
[18:48] <lrs_> Like an error popup thing
[18:48] <ioria> lrs_    you're getting complicated ... :þ
[18:48] <lrs_> So I tried to update that too, same thing. gzip stdout : no space left on devi
[18:48] <lrs_> *device
[18:49] <d4rklit3> hi
[18:50] <d4rklit3> where can I found the logs broken services may make? my mongod service just wont start. its logs say nothing (since its not running it can't make logs)
[18:50] <lrs_> Seems it cant remove 3 kernels
[18:50] <lrs_> Hmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:50] <administrador> ?
[18:50] <administrador> ?
[18:52] <Hudsonkem> d4rklit3 tried on /var/log ?
[18:52] <d4rklit3> is it syslog?
[18:53] <Hudsonkem> there u can find the logs
[18:53] <d4rklit3> which log is responsible for showing service errors
[18:54] <d4rklit3> for instance i dont see a messages file
[18:54] <kadiro> CAN ANY ONE SUGGESS ME A CHANNEL OF VDR OR ANY INFORMATION ABOUT IT?
[18:54] <Hudsonkem> d4rklit3 just ma moment
[18:54] <lrs_> I think my gfx cards is old? Maybe i need update? Anyone know how I cna see what version i have ? I think im using nvidia?
[18:54] <lrs_> Or yeah, im using nvidia
[18:55] <ioria> lrs_    sudo lshw -c video
[18:56] <d4rklit3> if i grep the whole folder the only mention of the service is in the /mongodb/mongod.log
[18:56] <d4rklit3> however that log file only gets written to my the service, so if the service doesn't start...
[18:56] <ioria> lrs_    ubuntu-driver list
[18:56] <lrs_> ioria: WEll, doesnt say what driver version
[18:56] <ioria> lrs_    ubuntu-drivers list
[18:57] <ioria> lrs_    oh, sure, sorry
[18:57] <lrs_> It has a list of 6
[18:57] <Hudsonkem> d4rklit3 try apport log
[18:57] <lrs_> nvidia-304-update,s nvidia-340,nvidida-346-updates,nvidia-346,nvidia-304
[18:57] <ioria> lrs_    dpkg -l nvidia*
[18:57] <kadiro> O_o
[18:58] <lrs_> alot of stuff there
[18:58] <roh_> what is topic
[18:59] <lrs_> Seems nvidia has a new version on their site, gonna try it
[18:59] <Hudsonkem> d4rklit3 >>http://askubuntu.com/questions/186276/where-are-all-the-major-log-files-located
[18:59] <d4rklit3> i think i figured it out
[18:59] <d4rklit3> system is out of memory
[18:59] <lrs_> Oh wait... I need to install this stuff in x right? Argh.
[19:00] <winsux1> i want to completely remove a windows 8.1 installation with gparted and leave the second OS (i.e. xubuntu 14.04) intact. what windows partitions are safe to remove so the other OS stills works?
[19:00] <Hudsonkem> d4rklit3 and swap? do u have right?
[19:00] <d4rklit3> 67108864, that 67mb ?
[19:00] <d4rklit3> its bytes right
[19:01] <kadiro> winsux1: if you don't touch the mbr yes if not you can recreate it from live system
[19:01] <d4rklit3> out of HDD memory Hudsonkem
[19:01] <winsux1> kadiro: i backup'd all my important data and i booted from a live usb, gparted tells me windows uses 9 out of 12 partitions
[19:02] <Hudsonkem> d4rklit3 is it all swap size or usage?
[19:02] <POQDavid> Hi guys i am running Ubuntu as guest in vbox and i wanted to share the connection from guest to host
[19:02] <POQDavid> how i can do that correctly
[19:02] <winsux1> kadiro: the first 5 partitions used by windows are winre_drv, system_drv, lrs_esp, unknown and the main OS partition. is it safe to remove the first partitions or does this mess up the uefi booting process?
[19:02] <d4rklit3> how do i tell
[19:03] <AEL-H1> POQDavid: I am not 100% sure but from what I can remember there is a vbox guest additions package to install?
[19:04] <winsux1> kadiro: the last partitions are hidden and recovery partitions, but i don't need those anymore so i guess it is safe to remove them
[19:04] <kadiro> winsux1: no idea but in generally we can recreate mbr so ubuntu can boot, for others partitions i have no idea
[19:04] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: yes i got that
[19:04] <winsux1> kadiro: if i remove those partitions and run grubcfg again then everything should be ok right?
[19:04] <AEL-H1> POQDavid: what exactly is it you are trying to share?
[19:05] <d4rklit3> in /procs  -r--------   1 root       root       140737477877760 Aug 18 15:04 kcore
[19:05] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: Well i want to share the Internet connection from guest to host
[19:05] <d4rklit3> thats not right
[19:05] <POQDavid> guest (Ubuntu 11.04)
[19:05] <kadiro> winsux1: if just for booting yes but for a loosing partitions i have no idea for that
[19:05] <bekks> d4rklit3: The /proc filesystem doesnt provide real files, so you can safely ignore its entire contents.
[19:05] <d4rklit3> k
[19:06] <AEL-H1> POQDavid: So the internet on your ubuntu dist is working?
[19:06] <DEFGB> Whats your favorite DE?
[19:07] <xangua> !poll
[19:07] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: yes i am using it right now
[19:07] <AEL-H1> but you have no internet access on the host system?
[19:08] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: i managed to get windows detect the connection but the part from Ubuntu is not fixed
[19:08] <d4rklit3> ok well
[19:08] <d4rklit3> im just gonna tell the server admins to figure it out
[19:08] <d4rklit3> no my problem
[19:08] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: and i did googled for like 2 days and also i am a bit confused lol
[19:08] <AEL-H1> POQDavid: I am not really sure how to help sorry
[19:08] <d4rklit3> work be calling me on my paternity
[19:08] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: any idea who can help me with that?
[19:09] <AEL-H1> POQDavid: Perhaps #vbox is worth a try?
[19:09] <POQDavid> AEL-H1: lol well they said i come here
[19:09] <bekks> AEL-H1: It's not vbox issue when it comes on how to setup a router using Ubuntu.
[19:10] <bekks> AEL-H1: Thats why he came to this channel.
[19:10] <kadiro> winsux1: when trying to remove any partition and if you have to then delete from last partition to the first you want to delete it
[19:10] <Hudsonkem> POQDavid settings>network
[19:10] <bekks> Hudsonkem: That will not magically setup a router in his guest.
[19:10] <POQDavid> Hudsonkem: you know how to set it up?
[19:10] <ioria> nm-tool if yuo are trusty
[19:10] <bekks> POQDavid: This is what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[19:11] <POQDavid> bekks: ok let me see if i can do it
[19:11] <winsux1> kadiro: okay, it looks like that is the best approach. i just removed the last partitions and the machine reboots correctly
[19:12] <kadiro> yes winsux1
[19:12] <Hudsonkem> im confused sorry, you are trying share network on vb ya?
[19:12] <AEL-H1> I am running kde 4.8.5 on Ubuntu 12.0.4.5 and I am having problems with skype picking up my speakers and microphone, can anyone provide some guidance or help me work out what the issue is?
[19:12] <POQDavid> bekks: ok can you help me set it up
[19:12] <POQDavid> bekks: i never done it before
[19:12] <bekks> Hudsonkem: He's trying to share the internet access of his guest with his host.
[19:12] <bekks> POQDavid: Well, you have to read the article linked.
[19:12] <Hudsonkem> bekks hm..
[19:13] <milad> where can i find some information about difference between dists in repositories source file? (trusty vs trusty-update vs trusty-security). i read the wiki and comments within the file but it's not clear for me how things works togeder.
[19:13] <POQDavid> bekks: ok from what part
[19:13] <uberamd> How is the VM getting internet access if not through the host?
[19:13] <bekks> POQDavid: From the top.
[19:13] <POQDavid> bekks: ah ok
[19:13] <bekks> uberamd: Using a USB dialup connection.
[19:13] <POQDavid> bekks: oh i see
[19:14] <uberamd> bekks: oh boy, yeah that'll require some reading.
[19:14] <bekks> uberamd: Yeah :)
[19:14] <winsux1> kadiro: does linux have a efi boot partition? windows 8 uses three boot partitions to my knowledge
[19:14] <POQDavid> bekks: thanks
[19:14] <kadiro> winsux1: yes i think
[19:15] <kadiro> !eefi | winsux1
[19:15] <kadiro> !efi | winsux1
[19:16] <winsux1> kadiro: /dev/sda2 in gparted is mounted to /boot/efi (i assume windows also uses this partition because it is labeled SYSTEM_DRV)
[19:16] <winsux1> kadiro: so i better keep that partition right?
[19:17] <kadiro> winsux1: really i don't know, but to be safe keep it
[19:18] <POQDavid> bekks: well this looks really nice
[19:18] <POQDavid> bekks: i will set it up :)
[19:18] <POQDavid> and thanks guys
[19:18] <bekks> POQDavid: Good :)
[19:18] <POQDavid> have a good day everyone
[19:18] <kadiro> thk's POQDavid to you also
[19:18] <POQDavid> tc :)
[19:19] <locoloco> P0QDavid: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
[19:19] <winsux1> kadiro: yeah, i don't want to make the system unbootable. thanks for your help, i have removed almost all partitions. i'm going to update grub and see if everything keeps worknig
[19:20] <bekks> locoloco: the vbox manual will not setup a ubuntu router in a guest vm ;)
[19:20] <kadiro> winsux1: it must work in my little few information
[19:21] <kadiro> brb, i will be back, time to eat something
[19:21] <locoloco> bekks: missed the router part, thought he was looking for host-to-host networking
[19:23] <JayTeeZee> how do i get my wacom digitizer up and running
[19:24] <winsux1> kadiro: looks like it worked perfectly, only windows is still shown in grub. i removed windows with sudo efibootmgr  -b 5 -
[19:24] <winsux1> kadiro: B where 5 is the windows entry
[19:24] <JayTeeZee> lol winsux
[19:25] <AEL-H1> I am running kde 4.8.5 on Ubuntu 12.0.4.5 and I am having problems with skype picking up my speakers and microphone, can anyone provide some guidance or help me work out what the issue is?
[19:25] <OerHeks> JayTeeZee, wacom should be supported standard, see systemsettings
[19:26] <winsux1> kadiro: sudo grub-mkconfig should update the grub boot menu right?
[19:26] <JayTeeZee> trying to figure out how to get my wacom digitizer working..it is built into my tablet
[19:26] <OerHeks> winsux1, no, update-grub
[19:26] <OerHeks> !grub
[19:27] <moss> is anyone here available to assist me with Corosync/Pacemaker Postgresql master-slave failover?
[19:27] <winsux1> OerHeks: thanks. it worked perfectly. funny name though, are you dutch?
[19:27] <ioria> JayTeeZee, do you see it in  xinput ?
[19:28] <JayTeeZee> xinput?
[19:28] <winsux1> OerHeks: hmmm it still lists "Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2/..."
[19:29] <ioria> JayTeeZee, run xinput in terminal
[19:29] <winsux1> OerHeks: and grub also lists windows boot manager
[19:29] <rednecktek> anyone know why altering the PATH on login causes lightdm to login loop?
[19:30] <elmcrest> hey everyone. another try: can somebody tell me a workaround for keyboard-config - maybe call "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" on every boot automatically?
[19:30] <TJ-> winsux1: if it is a UEFI system the Windows boot manager will be in the EFI SP, in "/EFI/windows/"
[19:30] <elmcrest> ^ sorry ... I'm on ubuntu 14.04 lts within VMWare Fusion (mac)
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> elmcrest  i have the same problem, but you have to hit enter 6 times, so it cannot be done automatically
[19:31] <moss> :\
[19:31] <elmcrest> yeah ok, hmm that's sad. but good to know anyways, thx.
[19:31] <JayTeeZee> xinput
[19:31] <JayTeeZee> ⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[19:31] <JayTeeZee> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[19:31] <JayTeeZee> ⎜   ↳ Logitech K400                           	id=10	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[19:31] <JayTeeZee> ⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
[19:31] <JayTeeZee>     ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> elmcrest  but to answer your question: sudo crontab -e and use éreboot
[19:31] <khax> use pastebin bro..
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> elmcrest  but to answer your question: sudo crontab -e and use @reboot
[19:32] <ioria> JayTeeZee, you have tom paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:32] <elmcrest> MonkeyDust: ok that's something, thx again
[19:32] <winsux1> TJ-: the exact output update-grub gives is "Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi". i don't know how to remove that path
[19:32] <ioria> ^_^
[19:33] <JayTeeZee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120111/
[19:33] <OerHeks> JayTeeZee,  use something like grub-customizer for that
[19:33] <JayTeeZee> i am trying to get my pen and touch to work
[19:33] <TJ-> winsux1: if the system booted in UEFI mode, ESP should be mounted at /boot/efi/ so look for /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/
[19:34] <ioria> JayTeeZee,  i don't think it's there
[19:34] <OerHeks> sorry , for winsux1 ^^
[19:34] <JayTeeZee> pen worked fine in linux mint
[19:35] <JayTeeZee> just need it in this distro
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> JayTeeZee  what you can do: ask in a mint channel what they added or modified to make it work
[19:35] <JayTeeZee> how about touch?
[19:35] <POQDavid> bekks: looks like this method is for like WAN and LAN
[19:35] <ioria> JayTeeZee,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[19:36] <POQDavid> bekks: like it makes a bridge
[19:36] <bekks> POQDavid: your GPRS is WAN, your LAN is the connection to the host.
[19:36] <bekks> POQDavid: It's a router, not a bridge.
[19:36] <POQDavid> oh but its not listing my wan
[19:36] <bekks> Define "its".
[19:37] <POQDavid> i ran the setup
[19:37] <POQDavid> the script
[19:37] <bekks> POQDavid: Which script?
[19:37] <winsux1> TJ-: okay, i cd'd to /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft. what is best practise to remove this entry. to just rm -rf /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft ?
[19:37] <POQDavid> bekks: the one on the page
[19:37] <TJ-> winsux1: If you're removing all of Windows, yes
[19:37] <ioria> JayTeeZee,  xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[19:37] <POQDavid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ubuntu+router.tar
[19:37] <bekks> POQDavid: Which script?
[19:38] <POQDavid> bekks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ubuntu+router.tar
[19:38] <briarrose> Hi everyone.
[19:38] <Dyjoe> hey everyone
[19:38] <bekks> POQDavid: How about reading the article now?
[19:38] <ioria> !info wacom-tools
[19:38] <winsux1> TJ-: thanks for your help. update-grub no longer lists any micro$oft bloatware
[19:39] <JayTeeZee> so no wacom digitizer in the newe iteration of ubuntu?
[19:39] <Dyjoe> So i just installed ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone could help me out with something(since i've tried most google solutions but with no results)
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> Dyjoe  ask and wait
[19:40] <TJ-> !info xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[19:40] <wileee> winsux1, For the record the channel does not like MS represented as other than MS, keep your bias off the channel.
[19:40] <POQDavid> bekks: whats ppp0
[19:40] <bei> Hi. I just updated and restarted (as the updater suggested) and now i get a blinking screen after the initial boot screen.
[19:40] <bei> is anyone else getting this after the last update? what caused it and how would i go about fixing it?
[19:40] <bekks> POQDavid: Where do you see that?
[19:40] <Dyjoe> MY wi-fi is "disabled by hardware switch" and I tried various solutions that i've found on forums by nothing seems to work
[19:40] <POQDavid> bekks: Network tools
[19:41] <bekks> POQDavid: Can you please be a bit more precise? :)
[19:41] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[19:41] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Your PC model will have a switching method to turn the radio on or off; either a separate 'hard' button or some combination of keyboard keys
[19:41] <POQDavid> bekks: in the settings
[19:41] <POQDavid> System setings
[19:41] <POQDavid> settings*
[19:41] <ubuntu-mate> [#ubuntu]  eror
[19:42] <POQDavid> bekks:  System settings > Network Tools
[19:42] <POQDavid> Devices tab
[19:43] <JayTeeZee> ok what was the cmd for wacom?
[19:43] <bekks> POQDavid: So did you configure your dialup connection there?
[19:44] <Dyjoe> TJ- : There is no button(i've searched,took the laptop apart and nothing) I only have an f12 key but no matter how much I press it it stays orange(it should be white/blue). When in network settings it seems to do nothing to the wifi switch but for some reason it turns airplane mode on(not off only on I can turn it off only manually with my cursor)
[19:44] <JayTeeZee> i had to reboot for update
[19:44] <POQDavid> bekks: no
[19:45] <POQDavid> bekks: but its the only active connection after eth0
[19:45] <TJ-> Dyjoe: it's possible the PC requires some action in Windows first to make it happen, or it may the Linux kernel needs to be told there's a special way to control the radio. What exact make/model is the PC?
[19:45] <wileee> JayTeeZee, You can man wacom  I have not followed your issue however.
[19:45] <bekks> POQDavid: PPP is your dialup connection then.
[19:45] <POQDavid> bekks: so i wonder if i will make a bridge
[19:46] <POQDavid> it*
[19:46] <POQDavid> if it will*
[19:46] <Dyjoe> CQ58-d04SQ
[19:46] <bekks> POQDavid: No, it will not. You have to setup a router, not a bridge.
[19:46] <AEL-H1> does anyone know how I can change the volume on ubuntu 12.0.4.5 kde 4.8.5?
[19:46] <Dyjoe> TJ-:CQ58-d04SQ is the model
[19:46] <Dyjoe> compaq
[19:47] <POQDavid> bekks: by that you mean the HW?
[19:47] <bekks> POQDavid: No.
[19:47] <OerHeks> AEL-H1,  is there no big volume icon ?
[19:48] <kadiro> I'm back
[19:48] <AEL-H1> not that I could find.. its quite an old kde..
[19:48] <POQDavid> bekks: let me see i hope it work
[19:48] <OerHeks> AEL-H1, sure there is, look again
[19:48] <POQDavid> s
[19:49] <AEL-H1> OerHeks: Not to be disrespectful but I have had a really thorough look and I really cannot find anything, if you could direct me to where I might find it that would be appreciated
[19:49] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm looking at the service and repair manual now. As I read, have you gone into the PC's BIOS/firmware setup and checked for any options that enable/disable wireless functions?
[19:49] <OerHeks> right lower corner, where the icons are, a speaker maybe??
[19:50] <AEL-H1> OerHeks: Not at all =/
[19:50] <OerHeks> AEL-H1, share a screenshot please
[19:50] <kadiro> winsux1: any news?
[19:52] <AEL-H1> OerHeks: Taking a screenshot could be interesting.. I am running kubuntu through crouton on a chomebook.. bare with I am going to take a picture with my phone :P
[19:54] <Dyjoe> TJ-: There is no setting regarding the wireless in the bios, the only options regarding the network are to turn it on during the booting stage(which I have and no change) regarding the boot order (which i have changed to put the network first ) still nothing changed. The weird thing is that from time to time the wireless turns randomly on for 1-5 seconds and IF I have the time to insert the password for the wifi adress I can even connect to pages(For the remai
[19:54] <Dyjoe> ning server untill it turns off again)
[19:54] <Dyjoe> for the remaining second *
[19:55] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, well neither of the manuals give any idea of the BIOS Setup options so I'm blind. When you use the F12 key to try and toggle WiFi, do you press the FN+F12 keys, or just F12 ?
[19:56] <winsux1> kadiro: yes, grub does not show windows anymore
[19:56] <winsux1> kadiro: gparted does not list any windows partitions anymore. thanks for your help :)
[19:56] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Well on windows I used to FN+F12 but on ubuntu it's just F12(or so I assume since all FN commands now work with simple F without the FN part but I have tried both ways)
[19:56] <TJ-> Dyjoe: does the text in Chapter 3, page 14, of the User Manual match what you experience?
[19:57] <TJ-> Dyjoe: specifically, it says the wireless LED should be white at boot-time ... is it? does it change to orange later?
[19:57] <kadiro> cool winsux1 you welcome :)
[19:58] <TJ-> Dyjoe: If the PC still has Windows on and bootable, have you tried booting into Windows, ensuring Wifi is enabled and connecting, and then doing a 'restart' into Ubuntu?
[20:00] <JayTeeZee> still no pen input? Why does setting up linux have to be so difficult?
[20:00] <AEL-H1> OerHek: http://imgur.com/5vvl44x
[20:00] <kadiro> 404 not found
[20:01] <OerHeks> AEL-H1, nope, no picture
[20:01] <leonic> n
[20:01] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I have tried that before actually installing ubuntu (during the test mode)  and no change, now I have lost somehow the ability to boot in windows (I have the files and haven't deleted it but it doesn't show up as a list it just boots ubuntu from the start), I have tried grub methods but it doesn't seem to show there either
[20:01] <locoloco> A fan of Unity's Global Menu and efficient use of space but it runs a little slow on older hardware. Any chance there are lighter DEs out there that prioritize screen real estate in a similar fashion?
[20:02] <JayTeeZee> can someone pm me to help me set up touch input and my wacom digitizer?
[20:02] <wileee> !flavors | locoloco
[20:02] <Dyjoe> TJ-:some extra info if it helps in any way at rfkill list all I have :"Hard blocked: yes"
[20:02] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm reading that this is/was a known issue with those HP2000 models, which use Ralink RT5390R WiFi. Can you do "lspci -nn" and tell me the line that shows the wifi device?
[20:03] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Yes, I expected that. We have to discover if someone has found a Linux way to control the radio-kill functionality
[20:04] <POQDavid> bekks: well i will do all i can it looks simple but i am worry it might not work
[20:04] <JayTeeZee> anybody??
[20:05] <kadiro> JayTeeZee: in mp i don't think so it is best idea
[20:05] <POQDavid> well l8rs guys until i have some problem with the setup
[20:05] <Dyjoe> TJ-: this one 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290]
[20:05] <Dyjoe> ? (sorry if I have dumb responses it's the first time I use ubuntu)
[20:06] <JayTeeZee> why doesn't linux have like a device manager
[20:06] <AEL-H1> OerHeks:http://postimg.org/image/4yogsz32f/
[20:07] <wileee> JayTeeZee, This is not why does linux not? it is support for ubuntu. this is channel spamming
[20:07] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Oooo! I may have found a sneaky workaround. It is 100% worth trying. Disconnect any and all external devices (USB. media cards, etc.) disconnect the AC charger. *remove* the battery. Press the power button *for at least 60 seconds* to drain any remaining charge from capacitors. Reconnect the AC charger (*not* the battery), power up and check if the WiFi light is white or not. If so,  power down, reconnect battery, and boot Linux
[20:07] <leonic> hello
[20:07] <kadiro> hi leonic
[20:07] <leonic> how do i make firefox use ronome flash
[20:08] <TJ-> Dyjoe: this is called doing a Hard Reset
[20:08] <JayTeeZee> how does on setup wacom?
[20:08] <TJ-> Dyjoe easy to do for a desktop PC but laptops need the battery removing
[20:08] <Dyjoe> TJ: should I remove the internal battery as well ( the little round thing ) ?
[20:08] <kadiro> JayTeeZee: may be this can help you: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/wacom-intuos-pen-touch-tablets-on-linux
[20:09] <TJ-> Dyjoe: hopefully not - that is the power for the BIOS's CMOS RAM where the settings are stored
[20:09] <kadiro> brb in few minutes
[20:10] <JayTeeZee> will it help me configure if the digitizer is built into computer?
[20:10] <TJ-> Dyjoe: what we are doing here is actually preventing the 5 volt standby power being provided to the WiFi hardware so it hard resets.
[20:10] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I will try to do that and return after
[20:10] <TJ-> Dyjoe: great, I'd like to hear how you got on
[20:10] <OerHeks> AEL-H1, that is strange, no sound at all ? might be a crouton issue, no experience with that, ask the channel again.
[20:11] <AEL-H1> OerHeks: Thanks anyway :)
[20:11] <AEL-H1> does anyone know how I can change the volume on ubuntu 12.0.4.5 kde 4.8.5?
[20:12] <OerHeks> AEL-H1,  mention crouton + chromebook + icon missing
[20:15] <JayTeeZee> still no help...
[20:16] <Dyjoe> TJ-:No change. Let me provide some more information
[20:17] <kadiro> re
[20:18] <Dyjoe> TJ-:The wifi used to turn on automatically when i had just windows (it used to turn on since booting not from when I entered windows), the wifi cards works ( i tried it on my roommate's laptop who has the same model and runs a version of linux ,not sure which 1 . His is orange but then turns it on when he logs in linux)
[20:18] <kadiro> JayTeeZee: is a serial wacom device ?
[20:19] <JayTeeZee> it is a wacom digitizer built into a tablet
[20:19] <TJ-> Dyjoe: that's disappointing. It does sound as if your PC has a BIOS setting that has disabled it. Maybe that setting is only accessible from Windows.
[20:19] <JayTeeZee> it uses the exact same panel as the surface pro 2
[20:20] <JayTeeZee> http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt/general/cube-i7-stylus-t3151563
[20:21] <TJ-> Dyjoe: the PCI ID of that device shows the kernel driver is rt2800pci which has no specific control itself for the radio, so the interface to the radio kill switch must be elsewhere
[20:22] <bmsr256> hi, i see today linux kernel 3.19.0.26-generic is causing conflict with fgrlx
[20:23] <kadiro> JayTeeZee: sorry i'm a newbie, i found this for you, try to look on it: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/wacom_bamboo_pen_and_touch_cth460
[20:24] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Could trying to remove the network card ,rebooting and then adding it back and rebooting again help in some way? I can't find any other settings in bios regarding the network
[20:25] <JayTeeZee> i am going to try rebooting without my keyboard connected
[20:25] <TJ-> Dyjoe: the hard power down should be sufficient if that kind of fix was going to work; the fact it works in another PC tells us the device itself should be locked out
[20:27] <bmsr256> maybe i have to wait for another update
[20:27] <moss> Can someone tell me who the package maintainers for Linux-HA stuff for ubuntu are?
[20:27] <unloading> is it possible to build a livecd from a vm ?
[20:28] <unloading> currently looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:29] <Dyjoe> TJ-:So I guess the best thing to do now would be adding windows again and then trying to see if there's a connection between it and the wifi's hard switch ?
[20:30] <TJ-> Dyjoe: maybe not. I've found mention of that exact device and issue, and it could simply be a firmware/kernel version issue.
[20:31] <TJ-> Dyjoe: what does "uname -r" and "lsb_release -r" report?
[20:31] <k1l_> !info linux-ha | moss
[20:32] <h00k> TJ-: uname -r will tell what kernel ersion you're running, and lsb_release -a will report your Ubuntu version
[20:32] <h00k> TJ-: for example, this is from my server: http://pastie.org/private/eiolpnpywkv6r5v4vf3e4a
[20:33] <Dyjoe> TJ-:uname -r: 3.19.0-25-generic ; lsb_release -r: Release:	14.04
[20:33] <snowkidind> if i have my NAS stored in fstab, and set a crontab to copy an item to it, will I have issues related to waking up the drive to put something on it?
[20:33] <TJ-> h00k: Yes, that's why I asked for them
[20:33] <kefh> very good video, must see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df4KB30K0UU
[20:33] <JayTeeZee> well i have touch input just no wacom..
[20:33] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" for me?
[20:33] <h00k> TJ-: Oh, I read your question wrong. Sorry bout that.
[20:33] <h00k> TJ-:D
[20:33] <TJ-> h00k: :D
[20:33]  * h00k wanders off
[20:36] <Dyjoe> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120491/
[20:37] <Waraqa> Hi, Is there an image viewer that can save the current session (images zoom and position) when reopen them next time?
[20:38] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, the Fn+F12 combo should work so we can rule that out: "[   10.900421] input: HP Wireless hotkeys as /devices/virtual/input/input6"
[20:38] <moss> !info corosync
[20:38] <Goddard> how can i remove my ubuntu grub?
[20:38] <moss> !info pacemaker
[20:39] <k1l_> Goddard: install another bootloader
[20:39] <tonyyarusso> Goddard: By replacing it with something else.  Unless you want an unusable machine.
[20:40] <k1l_> moss: see the right handside: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/pacemaker
[20:41] <TJ-> Dyjoe: also looks good: "[   11.040311] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00_set_rf: Info - RF chipset 3290 detected"
[20:41] <Waraqa> Is this the right place to ask my question?
[20:42] <kadiro> Waraqa: may be
[20:42] <Waraqa> I thought what I need is very simple, a software that can restore the session of opened images remembring their settings (amount of zoom and position)
[20:43] <Guest44032> how do i change my nickname
[20:44] <kadiro> Waraqa: I don't understand your question, i'm a newbie
[20:44] <TJ-> Dyjoe: please check the system has the firmware file "/lib/firmware/rt3290.bin"
[20:45] <Goddard> where does ubuntu usually install the bootloader?
[20:46] <TJ-> Goddard: on the boot drive, and under /boot/grub/
[20:46] <k1l_> Goddard: can you describe what the issue is?
[20:46] <Goddard> TJ-: it doesn't have its own partition?
[20:46] <Goddard> what if Windows already existed?
[20:46] <Goddard> would it install on the "SYSTEM" drive?
[20:46] <Waraqa> kadiro: When I use an image viewer, I need a few minutes to prepare images I use. I want a software that can save the current open images state
[20:46] <k1l_> Goddard: can you give more details so we dont need to guess and can answer with facts?
[20:47] <piero> Hi! After a system update the unity fails to start. My tty consoles doesnt appears and I only can login because I have windowmaker installed. If I remove the fglrx-updates driver, a different error occours, the session dont die, but just the wallpaper and the right mouse click menu are working. Where can I start solving this problem?
[20:47] <kadiro> Waraqa: ah i understand now
[20:47] <TJ-> Goddard: It depends on whether the system is UEFI boot, or Legacy/BIOS boot, and whether the boot drive has a MBR or GPT disk label
[20:47] <Waraqa> kadiro: In order to save time when opening those images in the next time
[20:47] <Goddard> k1l_: im trying to install over the old install
[20:48] <Goddard> TJ-: it is UEFI Fat32 partition
[20:48] <Dyjoe> TJ-: manually? If yes, then yes it is there if no , then I don't understand how
[20:48] <k1l_> Goddard: ubuntu over an old ubuntu?
[20:48] <Goddard> k1l_: no over arch
[20:48] <k1l_> Goddard: any other OS installed? like windows dualboot etc?
[20:48] <unloading> Does somebody know if it is possible to build a livecd from a build on a vm?
[20:48] <kadiro> Waraqa: I understand, you want an entire session to be saved, but i have no idea for that sorry man
[20:49] <Goddard> k1l_: yes windows is installed
[20:49] <Waraqa> kadiro: thanks, I will try ask in superuser.com
[20:49] <kadiro> np Waraqa
[20:49] <k1l_> Goddard: ok, so ubuntu will install its bootloader (grub). and that will work recognise the windows too
[20:50] <TJ-> Dyjoe: as long as the firmware file is on the system, now all we need to do is prove it has been loaded. For that lets unload and reload the RT3290 kernel module. To do that, lets first be sure we know which module is loaded. Do "lpsci -k -d 1814:3290"
[20:50] <klagid> Greetings!!
[20:50] <Goddard> k1l_: where does it install to by default in that situation?
[20:50] <kadiro> grub will not erase mbr don't worry Goddard
[20:51] <Goddard> I erased the ubuntu partitions and grub is still popping up
[20:51] <TJ-> Goddard: On a UEFI boot with an EFI System Partition (ESP) grub will be installed alongside the Windows boot-manager, and will be registered in the system's UEFI boot menu
[20:51] <k1l_> Goddard: for bios/legacy devices i would have said MBR of the first disk and /boot/grub in that ubuntu partition
[20:52] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I have received an error about lpsci : No command 'lpsci' found, did you mean:
[20:52] <Dyjoe>  Command 'lspci' from package 'pciutils' (main)
[20:52] <Dyjoe> lpsci: command not found
[20:52] <Goddard> TJ-: oh that sounds complicated
[20:52] <TJ-> Goddard: The motherboard maintains in Non-Volatile RAM the UEFI boot menu. You'll need to manually delete the Ubuntu entry from there using either a tool in the firmware setup, or from Windows
[20:52] <Goddard> ahh
[20:52] <TJ-> Dyjoe:doh, my typo! "lspci -k -d 1814:3290"
[20:53] <Dyjoe> TJ-: 01:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[20:53] <Dyjoe> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Ralink RT3290LE 802.11bgn 1x1 Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0 Combo Adapter
[20:53] <Dyjoe> 	Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
[20:54] <k1l_> Goddard: so you got arch installed and want to remove the ubuntu bootloader entry?
[20:55] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, so the kernel module (device driver) is rt2800pci. Let's unload it and then reload it, and then look at the kernel log entries it causes to see if it reports loading the firmware file too. "sudo modprobe -r rt2800pci"  then load it "sudo modprobe rt2800pci" then grab the last 50 lines from the kernel log: "pastebinit <( tail -n 50 /var/log/kern.log)"
[20:59] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120654/
[21:01] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, there is no error about missing firmware so we assume it loaded. Shame it doesn't tell us when it does load it, too.
[21:01] <TJ-> Dyjoe: does "rfkill list" still report hard blocked?
[21:02] <Dyjoe> TJ-: yes 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
[21:02] <Dyjoe> 	Soft blocked: no
[21:02] <Dyjoe> 	Hard blocked: yes
[21:04] <JayTeeZee> damn i guess linux on this tablet is a no-go
[21:04] <TJ-> Dyjoe: hmmm. can you try "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[21:05] <downbeam> the program AcroRd32.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. we are sorry for the inconvenience
[21:05] <Dyjoe> TJ-:wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[21:05] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I've read on the Crunchbag/Debian forums/wiki that on some HP models the F12 LED *will remain orange* even when the Wifi is enabled, *but* Fn+F12 still toggles it on or off - just that the LED doesn't indicate the current state
[21:06] <TJ-> Dyjoe: So, press Fn+F12 only once ... and try that scan again
[21:07] <piero> After upgrading my linux kernal the system fails to compile the fglrx-updates driver. Here is the make log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120718/ . What could be happening??
[21:07] <downbeam> can anyone help me?
[21:07] <Dyjoe> TJ-: It turns white when the wifi is on. On windows it didn't work at all it always stayed white I was even wondering if it worked before installing ubuntu, but here it (For some reason) turns on airplane mode when I look at the network panel
[21:07] <k1l_> downbeam: this is ubuntu support. why dont you use a linux pdf reader?
[21:08] <downbeam> i have ubuntu
[21:09] <TJ-> Dyjoe: that is progress. So pressing Fn+F12 once just disabled the radio. Does "rfkill list" show anything different now?
[21:09] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm wondering if the toggle state has got inverted so off means on and on means off
[21:09] <Dyjoe> TJ:- 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
[21:09] <Dyjoe> 	Soft blocked: no
[21:09] <Dyjoe> 	Hard blocked: yes
[21:09] <TJ-> Dyjoe: it seems we have to ignore the LED state/colour since it may not reflect the true state of the radio.
[21:10] <Dyjoe> TJ-: 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
[21:10] <Dyjoe> 	Soft blocked: yes
[21:10] <Dyjoe> 	Hard blocked: yes
[21:10] <Dyjoe>  after pressing it one more
[21:10] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, so presumably if you press that key combo once again the radio turns on again?
[21:10] <k1l_> downbeam: so why do you use a .exe?
[21:10] <downbeam> ive tried every thing even that
[21:11] <splash_wave> anyone know about serviio streaming?
[21:11] <splash_wave> im having trouble installing it
[21:12] <Dyjoe> TJ-: it seems the f12 only triggers the soft blocked on and off
[21:12] <TJ-> Dyjoe: thanks, so we know what does what.
[21:13] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm beginning to wonder if there's a deeper issue for your PC, since the experiences of other users with the same RT3290 and HP model I've looked at show they solved it with nothing more than we've tried so far
[21:15] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I've tested the card on another laptop so it's not that , I'm going to buy a modem tomorrow anyway and use a wired network but what's weird is that again, it turns on by itself for around 5-10 seconds every 10 minutes and so and within those 5-10 seconds it can connect to any network and if I manage to have the time to use a webpage I can even "browse" but besides that it didn't show any other sign of working
[21:15] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, found an even sneakier workaround. Read and try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360589/problems-with-rt3290-card-running-using-rt2800-driver-on-ubuntu-13-04
[21:16] <TJ-> Dyjoe: really... has that happened recently? I'm wondering if we can locate log entries in kern.log to give us a clue on that. That sounds like a possible power-save side-effect.
[21:19] <Dyjoe> TJ-: It happens randomly I can't control it ,  it started happening after I went "berzerk" on the airplane mode on/off button and after that it just randomly happened once in a while ( I keep seeing the wireless disconnected sign every few 10 minutes or so)
[21:20] <TJ-> Dyjoe: another possible from-boot-time solution that some people report as working - in the BIOS setup, if possible, put the network boot option before the hard disk so the BIOS *may* fully enable the wifi and ethernet devices.
[21:20] <TJ-> Dyjoe: It sounds like you may have stumbled onto a clue as to how to solve this. Do you have some more time to collect some technical logs I can dig into?
[21:23] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I don't have much time left since my roomate sleeps where the modem is , from the thread should I try the "don't last past the next system boot" version or the versions he has found working for him (from the other thread he mentions)? Also in bios should I reboot with my wired connection off (i've seen some people say it might matter however it showed nochanges when i did it normally)
[21:24] <Dyjoe> TJ-: the roommate-modem cause is also the reason why i'd like to keep working wireless  on the laptop xd
[21:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Try the 'suspend' trick listed as steps 1 2 3 4
[21:25] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, well I'm around here quite a lot so come back another time and we can do some more diagnostics. If you're able to trigger it by going berzerk I'm guessing you're not far from figuring out a permanent fix
[21:26] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I will try the 4 steps then report back with the results
[21:26] <TJ-> Dyjoe: good luck ;)
[21:28] <ser__> hello
[21:29] <ser__> help froms argentina
[21:29] <ser__> one español for help!!
[21:29] <k1l_> !es  | ser__
[21:31] <Dyjoe> TJ-: the 4 steps do not work , I also rfkill listed when airplane mode on/off so apparently tthe fn-f12 switch does exactly the same thing as airplane mode(when airplane mode is on soft-block is on as it s when i do the fn-f12 combo...idk if this helps )
[21:32] <TJ-> Dyjoe: does that strike you as a bug? We'd expect Fn+F12 to do a hard switch wouldn't we?
[21:32] <TJ-> Dyjoe: which might point us to a bug in the hp-wmi kernel module that handles those keys
[21:33] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I've written up the 3 diagnostic reports I'd like to see, and some suggestions for things that help investigate.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120832/
[21:33] <Dyjoe> TJ-: yes, the hard switch should be trigger by the FN-F12 , the airplane mode shouldn't be activated...as far as I know on this model at least the fn-f12 should not even start airplane mode but just close the wifi connection
[21:34] <barzai> does anyone recommend a book on chroot jail, linux security... on an ubuntu machine?
[21:34] <Dyjoe> TJ-: i've found a thread on the hp forum(compaq is made by hp) named "F12 button changed to airplane mode, can't turn on wifi" so i guess this could be a bugg from the laptop , i'm reading it now
[21:34] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Yes, I read that and some others earlier
[21:37] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I've stumbled upon this http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Wireless-Internet-Home-Networking/F12-button-changed-to-airplane-mode-can-t-turn-on-wifi/td-p/2514337/page/2 , where it says to get "HP Hotkey Utility Driver " , would that work on ubuntu or do I have to install windows to switch back the commands ?
[21:37] <rafaelcenteio> Hi, I am using ubuntu MATE 1.8 . Desktop hp g62. r8169 driver and Pulseaudio
[21:37] <rafaelcenteio> Basically, when I try to open xfce4-mixer, it doesnt work. The process is running but nothing appears.
[21:38] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Ureka! I've been looking in the kernel code, just found this recentish new module commit "hp-wireless: new driver for hp wireless button for Windows 8" dated January 2014.
[21:38] <TJ-> Dyjoe: No, that's Windows drivers only
[21:38] <TJ-> Dyjoe: let's find out if your kernel is recent enough to have the module: "modinfo hp-wireless"
[21:40] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Ahhh... your kernel dmesg.log  shows that module is being loaded: "[   10.900326] Initializing HPQ6001 module"
[21:40] <unloading> http://pastebin.com/7eJ7bC1y dont get it why it cant be found
[21:40] <Dyjoe> TJ-: filename:       /lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/hp-wireless.ko
[21:40] <Dyjoe> alias:          acpi*:HPQ6001:*
[21:40] <Dyjoe> author:         Alex Hung
[21:40] <Dyjoe> license:        GPL
[21:40] <Dyjoe> srcversion:     FFD4A30B3E70F4E31D2C99B
[21:41] <Dyjoe> depends:
[21:41] <JayTeeZee> anybody know anything about wacom in linux?
[21:41] <JayTeeZee> been trying for the last hour to get this digi working
[21:42] <k1l_> unloading: seems like your zsh cant handle the *
[21:42] <unloading> k1l_: gonna try it in bash
[21:43] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Not sure if that was sent ; here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120884/
[21:43] <navetz> hi guys, I installed kubuntu-desktop ontop of ubuntu. My fonts are totally messed up though, anyone know how to fix?
[21:43] <JayTeeZee> it looks like i am going to have to install linux mint since nobody seems to know
[21:44] <k1l_> JayTeeZee: that doesnt make a difference
[21:44] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Yes, the modules there, and your dmesg.log showed it is being loaded. I've looked at the source code and all it does is send the RFKILL event to the kernel input system when the wireless key is pressed. That doesn't explain why it only appears to toggle the soft block.
[21:44] <JayTeeZee> linux mint it worked right out of the box
[21:45] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Collect the info from the first 3 commands here and let me see them.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120832/
[21:46] <mate|74463> Hi everyone......some of u has the same problem am having installing Ubuntu Mate......wireless enabled doesn't reach any network????
[21:46] <navetz> anyone know?
[21:47] <ubuntu_> hi all
[21:47] <reisio> navetz: ...know what?
[21:47] <reisio> ubuntu_: hi
[21:48] <Dyjoe> TJ-: the first one http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120903/
[21:48] <navetz> reisio, I installed kubuntu-desktop ontop of ubuntu. My fonts are totally messed up though, anyone know how to fix?
[21:48] <theTsar> theCzar: hello
[21:48] <JayTeeZee> nobody here seems to know how to enable my wacom digitizer
[21:48] <Dyjoe> Tj-: i think i misspelled it though let me look at it again
[21:48] <TJ-> Dyjoe: You typoed... you wrote &n instead of $n
[21:49] <reisio> JayTeeZee: bummer
[21:49] <reisio> does that include me?
[21:49] <reisio> I guess it does
[21:50] <Dyjoe> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120916/ the first one
[21:50] <JayTeeZee> i thought it'd be built in since the tablet uses the same panel as the surface pro 2
[21:50] <elc> theCzar: hi
[21:50] <elc> whois
[21:51] <k1l_> JayTeeZee: there is not such a thing as "the one and only wacom". so with that less details no one could ever help you.
[21:51] <unloading> k1l_: thx mate !
[21:51] <theTsar> theCzar: question
[21:51] <Dyjoe> TJ-: the other 2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120926/
[21:52] <JayTeeZee> this is the tablet with complete hardware details
[21:52] <k1l_> JayTeeZee: and iirc you were told quite often about the hardware support of your device. and keep in mind that the surface stuff is microsoft stuff and not sold with linux compatibility in any way.
[21:53] <TJ-> Dyjoe: thanks, that helps me compare to other results
[21:53] <JayTeeZee> it isn't microsoft stuff it is a wacom digitizer
[21:54] <mate|74463> SOMEONE HAS WIRELESS PROBLEM ON UBUNTU MATE?
[21:54] <JayTeeZee> i had it working on an older lappy years back now i need it working on the tablet
[21:54] <k1l_> !details | mate|74463
[21:55] <mate|74463> Ubuntu Mate on Samsung Ativ book 9 .....dual boot
[21:56] <mate|74463> wireless does not detect any network
[21:56] <k1l_> mate|74463: which wifi chip? is it listed in "lsusb" or "lspci"? what is that line? what doesnt work exactly?
[21:57] <mate|74463> is it listed in ???? should I digit something on terminal ?
[21:58] <k1l_> mate|74463: ok, please put the output of "lspci" and "lsusb" in terminal into a pastebin and link it here
[21:58] <k1l_> !paste | mate|74463
[21:58] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I keep returning to this solution for HP laptops. In BIOS enable "Internal Network Adapter Boot" option, boot into Linux anc check the rfkill status ("rfkill list") and try forcing it with "sudo rfkill unblock all"  then try scanning "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" - some people say after doing that the PC needs a couple of reboots before it 'takes' reliably.
[22:00] <CheloniaG> Hello. I'm trying to do a clean install of Ubuntu on a blank hard drive. I downloaded Ubuntu desktop. My computer won't boot from this. Do I need something else?
[22:01] <k1l_> mate|74463: support please only in here
[22:01] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I'll try doing that now
[22:01] <k1l_> mate|74463: type "lsusb" and then enter. then "lspci" and then enter. then copy all the text with the mouse, rightclick and choose "copy" then paste it into the paste service and show the link here
[22:02] <mate|74463> Hi k11.....am new on Linux....on Ubuntu Mate.....so slowly pls....I shoud open terminal and digit exactly what?
[22:05] <Dyjoe> TJ-: could you please type the scanning command again ? It started"sudo iwlis[...]
[22:05] <TJ-> Dyjoe: "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[22:05] <Dyjoe> ty
[22:05] <mate|74463> Isusb and Ispci........command not found
[22:06] <Meh32> hey guys, i have my apache2 forlder /var/www/html, my username home folder is /home/meh32 , how can i make /home/meh32/html point to /var/www/html ?
[22:06] <k1l_> mate|74463: they are 2 commands
[22:06] <mate|74463> yes of course yes I know...but does not reconize both
[22:07] <k1l_> mate|74463: i wrote you exactly what to do above. if you cant follow that it might be better to see someone in the real life who can help you with that issue. like ubuntu localcommunity or linux user groups
[22:07] <navetz> idontcare
[22:07] <k1l_> mate|74463: its lsusb. with a L
[22:08] <Technobliterator> anyone know why my internet and download speeds are really slow in ubuntu?
[22:08] <Technobliterator> is it some dns issue I have yet to solve?
[22:09] <k1l_> Technobliterator: could be due to bad drivers. but that depends on the exact hardware. you could look up the hardware and see if other ubuntu users got the same issue with that
[22:10] <CheloniaG> I'm trying to do a clean install of Ubuntu on a blank hard drive. I downloaded Ubuntu desktop. My computer won't boot from this. Do I need something else?
[22:10] <Technobliterator> which bit of hardware should I be looking at in particular?
[22:10] <navetz> hi guys, can anyone help me fix my font issues? I've installed kubuntu-desktop and i cant figure out how to get default fonts working
[22:10] <navetz> http://i.imgur.com/YrzsSTD.jpg
[22:10] <navetz> that's what it looks like
[22:11] <k1l_> Technobliterator: the lan or wifi hardware you use to connect
[22:12] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:12] <ubuntu_> o kurwa
[22:13] <OerHeks> watch your languare, elc
[22:14] <Technobliterator> I haven't found anything online that suggests that it's to do with the hardware :/
[22:14] <OerHeks> navetz, isn't there is a "reset to default" button in the font-section of the KDE-Systemsettings ?
[22:15] <Meh32> any suggestions about pointing  a folder from my home directory to /var/www/html by any chance?
[22:15] <elc> who is from russia?
[22:16] <reisio> elc: russians
[22:16] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Nothing, However I don't think the boot changes anything in the wireless in my case (including it's on/off status), because I have made the network the first thing to boot and it took a while whle it loaded the wired card,however when i rebooted with the wired connection removed it didn't stay even a second at the network  it jumped directly at booting normally , it might be that the changes to the booting system were made and saved while in windows
[22:16] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I've just found a mainline kernel bug, which includes a patch, which isn't in the mainline kernel, which is supposed to fix this. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69131
[22:17] <mate|74463> so....I can see that make differents L and l......ok...I got it....what u need to know from the output?
[22:18] <TJ-> Dyjoe: As the patch isn't in mainline yet we can't simply test by installing a mainline kernel, but I'm investigating if we can build it using the DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Support)
[22:19] <k1l_> mate|74463: to see what is the cause of your "i cant connect" issue we need to check the drivers etc. but we need to know what wifi card that is. so please follow that clear and easy instructions i gave you. if you have issues with english ask in #ubuntu-it
[22:21] <mate|74463> Atheros
[22:21] <k1l_> last try: <k1l_> mate|74463: type "lsusb" and then enter. then "lspci" and then enter. then copy all the text with the mouse, rightclick and choose "copy" then paste it into the paste service and show the link here
[22:22] <Dyjoe> TJ-: These details are beyond my already limited knowledge about linux :D
[22:22] <volatile240> anyone recommend the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[22:22] <mariano> what is the ~dir
[22:22] <Suntop_> Hello, Question with the GRUB Boot screen I want to change Windows 8 Loader text to Windows 10 loard how do I do that?
[22:22] <mariano> Is that the home directory?
[22:22] <OerHeks> mate|74463, use paste.ubuntu.com for the full output please, just 'atheros' .. come one
[22:22] <k1l_> mariano: ~ is /home/'user'
[22:22] <volatile240> mariano - yes, ~ is your home directory
[22:23] <mariano> ah ok, thank you :)
[22:23] <mate|74463> how could I copy and past if am using this from the pc that has already a connection????.....wait I will write all....
[22:23] <OerHeks> just the line with atheros will do
[22:23] <Suntop_> -_-
[22:23]  * Suntop_ sits down and waits
[22:23] <k1l_> mate|74463: ok, you did not tell so far, that you dont have a connection on that ubuntu pc at all. so can you put a lan cable in it?
[22:24] <mate|74463> no
[22:24] <k1l_> Suntop_: try if a "sudo update-grub" will do
[22:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm working on a small DKMS package here that, if it works, will allow you to build the patched hp-wmi module yourself.
[22:25] <mate|74463> if am having problem with wireless....means....that am digit from somewhere else....isn't true?
[22:25] <Suntop_> k1l_: thats all?
[22:25] <OerHeks> Suntop_, that will change windows 8 to your installed windows 10
[22:26] <Suntop_> Okay I will give that a try
[22:26] <k1l_> Suntop_: that command runs the scripts that generate the grub boot menu. one script will scan for windows installs.
[22:27] <Suntop_> I plan to do a clean install of 10 later, will Ihave to reinstall Ubuntu?
[22:28] <k1l_> a clean windows install will most likely wipe the ubuntu boot loader and will need to run a ubuntu live usb/cd to install that again. yes
[22:28] <Suntop_> I understand if I do a windows insall it will take over and makit whre GURB will not show up
[22:28] <OerHeks> Suntop_, you wil have to reinstall grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:28] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[22:28] <Suntop_> As I figured
[22:29] <scott_11> anyone using an ATI card?
[22:30] <reisio> some people are, yes
[22:30] <k1l_> scott_11: some do.
[22:30] <k1l_> !details | scott_11
[22:30] <scott_11> i am getting a lot of frame dropping in videos
[22:31] <scott_11> chrome, firefox, vlc, videos are not smooth
[22:31] <volatile240> Anyone have a preference? What's the best IRC client?
[22:31] <geothom230> hexchat
[22:32] <scott_11> i7-860, 16gb DDR3 1600, MSI P55-GD65, HD 6870 1Gb
[22:32] <volatile240> thanks geo
[22:32] <k1l_> volatile240: ask 10 people and get 12 answers. what about you try the typical ones and see yourself :)
[22:32] <geothom230> hexchat with znc server to protect yourself it's really awesome
[22:34] <scott_11> how do I check what version of FGLRX i am running?
[22:34] <volatile240> k1l, I am - just looking for other opinions!
[22:35] <yingw787> hello guys
[22:35] <k1l_> scott_11: "dpgk -l | grep fglrx"
[22:35] <volatile240> geothom230 - thanks!
[22:35] <yingw787> my ubuntu 14.04 LTS is going wierd
[22:35] <yingw787> weird
[22:35] <yingw787> I installed over a corrupted version of windows 10
[22:35] <yingw787> but it freezes right after startup
[22:35] <yingw787> and it does not boot automatically to ubuntu upon startup
[22:36] <yingw787> I need to boot to BIOS first and select GRUB
[22:36] <OerHeks> scott_11, what ati card? lspci | grep VGA
[22:38] <scott_11> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
[22:38] <bekks> yingw787: You dont boot into BIOS, you access BIOS prior booting.
[22:38] <k1l_> scott_11: "dpkg -l | grep fglrx"  sorry had a typo
[22:39] <yingw787> bekks: when I start the computer otherwise the screen just turns black
[22:39] <bekks> yingw787: You access the BIOS prior grub is started.
[22:40] <yingw787> bekks: yeah but I want it to just boot into ubuntu automatically without having to manually access BIOS in order to boot grub
[22:40] <yingw787> bekks: it's not doing that right now
[22:40] <bekks> yingw787: So set the boot order you are changing in BIOS persistantly.
[22:41] <scott_11> thanks k1l_
[22:41] <yingw787> bekks: I tried setting the boot order, but they're not labelled nicely; one is grub and I think the other is some phantom USB disc
[22:42] <bekks> yingw787: Which doesnt matter since you have to set the boot order once, persistantly.
[22:42] <TJ-> Dyjoe: are you still awake?
[22:42] <Dyjoe> tj-:yes
[22:44] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I have a DKMS module for hp-wmi for you to test. Download it from https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz
[22:45] <scott_11> is there a general opinion on the difference between fglrx and fglrx-updates? which should I choose?
[22:46] <ash_m> hey, there's no need for something like vagrant if you're running an ubuntu distro from your local machine, is there?
[22:46] <TJ-> Dyjoe: assuming you saved it to your $HOME/Downloads/ directory using a web browser, then in a terminal do "sudo tar -C / -xzf $HOME/Downloads/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz"    - this should extract the files into the /usrs/src/ directory so you can attempt to build it
[22:46] <ash_m> meaning I should just install webservers, languages, etc, directly to my workstation... or is it better to isolate this in a vagrant environment?
[22:47] <TJ-> ash_m: for 'cleanliness' you might want to isolate those tools in chroot's or using containers (LXC/Docker)
[22:48] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I have done just that, I haven't received a return message for it so I'm imagining it worked? Should I reboot now?
[22:48] <TJ-> Dyjoe: no reboots! This Is Linux not Windows :)
[22:49] <TJ-> Dyjoe: You've only installed source code so far. Check you see it there first with "ls -l /usr/src/hp-wmi-1.01/
[22:49] <TJ-> Dyjoe: you should files dkms.conf hp-wmi.c Makefile and the directory patches/
[22:49] <mate|74463> lsusb>enter
[22:49] <mate|74463> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[22:49] <mate|74463> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 2232:1071
[22:49] <mate|74463> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0cf3:e300 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[22:49] <mate|74463> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[22:49] <mate|74463> lspci>enter
[22:49] <mate|74463> root@manuelinux-930X2K-931X2K:/home/manuelinux# lspci
[22:49] <ash_m> TJ-: thanks
[22:49] <ash_m> TJ-++
[22:50] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Yes they are there, my wireless just did those on/off spasms again if that helps
[22:52] <OerHeks> mate|74463, use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines, thanks
[22:53] <Dyjoe> TJ-: So the wireless went on, it showed my network along with the others in the appartment building and also turned on airplane mode by itself for some reason
[22:54] <TJ-> Dyjoe: no it doesn't but it is frustrating! OK ... now you're going to try and build + install that kernel source code to create a replacement binary kernel module (device driver). See http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121139/
[22:54] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, can you "pastebinit <( tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog )" immediately? I want to see the log entries
[22:57] <Dyjoe> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121142/ ;"NOT FUCK" is the name of my network (blame my roommate not me it's cause I said fuck while he was installing the modem sry : | )
[22:57] <TJ-> Dyjoe: We'll let you off :)
[22:57] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Give the DKMS build of hp-wmi a go - hopefully it won't error for you.
[22:58] <roler> i have ubuntu 15.04 - how do I default gnome terminal to use xterm-256color instead of xterm??
[23:00] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I'm getting an error : sudo: dkms: command not found ;
[23:00] <TJ-> Dyjoe: "NetworkManager[718]: <info> WiFi now enabled by radio killswitch" ... "ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt3290.bin'"  ... "NetworkManager[718]: <info> WiFi now disabled by radio killswitch"     exactly 5 seconds on
[23:01] <mate|74463> k11 are u there?
[23:01] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Ahh sorry, I always assume every system has dkms. "sudo apt-get install dkms"
[23:01] <OerHeks> roler, http://whiletruecode.tumblr.com/post/13358288098/enabling-256-color-mode-in-ubuntus-bash-terminal
[23:02] <k1l_> mate|74463: you were asked several times to use a paste-service not flood in the irc.
[23:03] <k1l_> mate|74463: i dont see a wifi hardware in your output.
[23:03] <mate|74463> what u mean....I use it on windows....
[23:04] <Dyjoe> TJ-:also an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121171/
[23:04] <OerHeks> mate|74463, you were silenced, before we could read lspci.
[23:05] <OerHeks> mate|74463, use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[23:05] <mate|74463> sorry eveyone....
[23:05] <mate|74463> r
[23:05] <TJ-> Dyjoe: show me the build log: "pastebinit /var/lib/dkms/hp-wmi/1.01/build/make.log"
[23:05] <k1l_> mate|74463: did you shut down the wifi with a hardware switch, or a shortkey fn+... on the keyboard?
[23:05] <mate|74463> yes.yes I tried
[23:06] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121174/
[23:06] <mate|74463> on windows....is everything working as usual...
[23:07] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I've also just found a very strong hint that a kernel command-line boot option for ACPI could fix this. I came on that since the syslog you provided a few minutes ago shows unknown key codes, and that is related to the Fn-F12 sequence from what I can make out. The fix involves adding "  acpi_osi="!Windows 2012"   "
[23:07] <mate|74463> on Ubuntu....does not reach any network around me.....looks like switched off...but I don't know hot to let it work...even from the bios menu...
[23:08] <k1l_> mate|74463: is there no chance you can put a lan cable into that laptop?
[23:08] <mate|74463> no
[23:09] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK... I need to change the source code in hp-wmi.c to an older version for it to work... whilst I do that, why not try rebooting, intercept the GRUB boot manager by holdind down the Shift key, and in the menu navigate to the Ubuntu entry, press E to edit it, navigate to the line "linux ..." and at the end add acpi_osi="!Windows 2012"   then press F10 or Ctrl+X to execute that
[23:09] <mate|74463> may it will solve all....may the system need a several update....I know
[23:09] <TJ-> Dyjoe: if that works... you won't need my DKMS code
[23:09] <mate|74463> amean...the Ubuntu need....
[23:10] <kali-user> hi guys i just downloaded the vm and i added a new user
[23:10] <kali-user> i did adduser and logged into a new user account... now it says "command not found"
[23:10] <kali-user> when i try to run nmap
[23:10] <k1l_> mate|74463: the issue is: we need a lot more technical infos about your system and hardware. and like it took so long now and i am not sure we got the proper info we need i dont think this is a good way of support.
[23:10] <Dyjoe> wireless went on nd off for a second i've pastebin'ed it if you think that is still necesarry
[23:11] <kali-user> no commands are working in the new user
[23:11] <kali-user> account
[23:11] <bazhang> what version of kali kali-user
[23:11] <OerHeks> kali-user, added an user in Kali ?
[23:11] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I think the bad key codes is causing that
[23:11] <TJ-> Dyjoe: So, try the reboot with the alternate ACPI OSI and see how it goes
[23:11] <OerHeks> kali is single user, find help in the kali channel, as it is not supported here
[23:11] <Dyjoe> TJ-:i'll do that just now
[23:12] <mate|74463> k11....I'll back soon.....with everything working properly.....I see u soon....tks a lot
[23:15] <kali-user> yes i'm using kali
[23:15] <kali-user> i just had to add a user to the sudoers file
[23:15] <kali-user> gotta love linux
[23:15] <OerHeks> !kali | kali-user
[23:19] <Dyjoe> Tj-:Well the wifi is still stuck at no , but FN-F12 does not trigger airplane mode&soft block to go on anymore
[23:20] <Dyjoe> stuck at off*
[23:22] <Peyamm> hi
[23:22] <Peyamm> Im trying to install lubuntu on my Thinkpad. it keeps giving me can not mount on //filesystem.squash
[23:23] <Peyamm> Ive been searching on google for somthing MD5
[23:23] <k1l_> Peyamm: how did you make the lubuntu usb?
[23:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, so we've made some change but not quite the correct one. There are several options for ACPI and its per-BIOS-image, but I suspect that might be the actual *correct* fix so I wonder if you can upload the ACPI DSDT binary table somewhere for me so I can disassemble it. "sudo sh -c 'cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | gzip > /tmp/DSDT.bin'  "
[23:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: then upload "/tmp/DSDT.bin" somewhere
[23:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | gzip > /tmp/DSDT.bin  would be better
[23:25] <Peyamm> k1l_: using pen driver linux installer
[23:25] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I've updated the DKMS source code to be based on the 3.19 kernel of 15.04 Vivid, so you can also re-download, extract, and try installing it
[23:25] <TJ-> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah, I'm getting tired... but it'll work :)
[23:25] <k1l_> Peyamm: that error sounds like it got a corrupted download or something on making the usb-system went wrong
[23:26] <k1l_> Peyamm: what OS do you use right now?
[23:26] <Peyamm> Win 10
[23:26] <Peyamm> k1l_: Win 10
[23:26] <TJ-> Dyjoe: downloading the DKMS source is : "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz"
[23:26] <Peyamm> k1l_: I donwload 15.04 twice and 14.04 once
[23:26] <k1l_> Peyamm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[23:26]  * TJ- will be back... getting Coffee
[23:28] <n4mkrad> hello
[23:29] <Dyjoe> TJ-: not exactly sure where to upload it (without the whole creating an account process) , I have in megaup however idk if it's temporary just for me or if the files are available for everyone...anyway here is the link https://mega.nz/#fm/KtdzQJRS
[23:29] <aeden__D> n4mkrad, | !question
[23:30] <aeden__D> grr
[23:30] <yingw787_> hey guys
[23:30] <yingw787_> me again
[23:30] <yingw787_> so uh
[23:30] <yingw787_> when I'm rebooting my ubuntu 14.04 distro
[23:30] <yingw787_> it goes into a black screen
[23:30] <yingw787_> this doesn't happen when I shutdown and boot up again
[23:30] <yingw787_> I'm not sure why
[23:30] <yingw787_> any suggestions
[23:30] <k1l_> dont reboot ;p
[23:31] <yingw787_> I am trying to convince my parents that Linux is way better than Windows
[23:31] <yingw787_> it is hard to do that when it doesn't reboot ;P
[23:31] <k1l_> yingw787_: dont know. i would suggest to look into the logs (syslog and dmesg) and the old ones before the recycle if there is something obvious
[23:31] <Dyjoe> TJ-:I'm also not sure where has ths downloaded the file and if I need to move it again or not
[23:31] <TJ-> Dyjoe: wait one, I'll just try the mega link
[23:32] <mcphail> yingw787_: make sure there isn't any "fast boot" thing set in your bios, as well
[23:33] <Peyamm> k1l_: the MD5 is the same
[23:33] <k1l_> from the iso and the usb stick?
[23:34] <k1l_> can you name the md5sum?
[23:34] <TJ-> Dyjoe: No, mega doesn't show it to me, but I have a plan :)
[23:36] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to make audio output always default to 1) In sound settings, on output tab; play as "speakers - built in audio" and not HDMI / display port (built in audio?  and 2) in pavucontrol "headphones unplugged" over "speakers"?  thanks
[23:36] <Peyamm> from USB or the downloaded one
[23:37] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm going to send you a pvt message
[23:37] <Dyjoe> TJ-:i googled temporary upload got to this site so I uploaded it here , idk the quality of the site never used it before : http://expirebox.com/download/b2ac8f48bb52f2f818b38109bc07faf3.html
[23:38] <Peyamm> k1l_: how do I compare them?
[23:38] <k1l_> Peyamm: can you please name the md5sum you got?
[23:38] <TJ-> Dyjoe: You beat me to it! Forget the pvt msg now :)
[23:39] <Peyamm> k1l_: ef68089eb8ae2cfaf78cc89a01dfcb0e
[23:39] <TJ-> Dyjoe: got the file, working in it now.
[23:40] <TJ-> Dyjoe: For the DKMS source: "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz" then "sudo tar -C / -xzf hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz" - you may have to confirm over-writing the previous code - then "sudo dkms install -m hp-wmi -v 1.01"
[23:42] <k1l_> Peyamm: is it from the .iso or the usb?
[23:42] <Dyjoe> TJ-:I've done that , the installation went swift, f12 key still does the same
[23:42] <Peyamm> k1l_: .iso I downloaded
[23:43] <k1l_> Peyamm: so you made the md5sum check on windows of the .iso file and the usb?
[23:43] <xfceKris> I have a broken boot partition on my windows hdd, though grub boots windows normally. If I unplug my xfce hdd, the pc should boot windows as if it were the only OS installed. Instead I get a grub rescue screen. Can anyone help me fix this?
[23:43] <Peyamm> I dont know how to do it on a usb. Just did it on USB k1l_
[23:44] <xfceKris> Also, I've looked at all the tutorials I care to look at, so please no tutorials. I haven't got a windows disk either, only a linux usb.
[23:47] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK, nothing will change until we unload the current module from memory and load the new module. First lets check the new module is installed. Do "modinfo hp-wmi" and check the first line of the output, the filename. It must have in it updates/dkms/hp-wmi.ko
[23:48] <Dyjoe> TJ-:yes it is in there
[23:49] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK ... I suspect because of the Fn-F12 not currently working due to the acpi_osi setting, it won't help right now without a reboot. Let's try it anyhow. "sudo modprobe -r hp-wmi" then "sudo modprobe hp-wmi" then try the key sequence see if it affects "rfkill list"
[23:51] <the_count> umestroburmeumetmeainfirmitatem
[23:51] <TJ-> Dyjoe: A little bit of background about the ACPI DSDT table. It is actually a form of executable code the firmware specifies, but the OS kernel interprets. One function configures the PC with various settings based on the operating system name (OSI). I've disssembled your DSDT and this fragment shows that code. You can see how it stores different config values depending on the name of the OS it receives.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121288/
[23:51] <the_count> whoops
[23:52] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Turns out OSI "!Windows 2012" isn't the correct setting for your PC, but it is possible "Windows 2012" is (without the "!").
[23:52] <Caelum> How do I see my ubuntu version?
[23:52] <TJ-> Caelum: "lsb_release -a"
[23:53] <Caelum> ah thank you very much
[23:53] <Dyjoe> TJ-: there are some changes i'll put them in a pastebin hardswitch is still on though
[23:53] <Israel_C> hi
[23:53] <Israel_C> sup
[23:54] <BTJustice> Is there a way to change the color depth using Terminal?  I do not have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 so I have no idea how to do it.
[23:54] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I expected it would be for now, since we disabled hotkey interpretation with that "!Windows 2012" :)
[23:54] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121309/
[23:55] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Airplane mode is also trigger by FN-F12 again however now when i press it  i trigger it back off as well not only on-on
[23:56] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Yay! you have the hp-wifi and hp-bluetooth devices now
[23:56] <drkjtr> xfceKris: I think I remember you having this issue the other day.  Where is your grub installed? The Windows drive or the XFCE?
[23:56] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK ... let's try just rebooting without any special acpi_osi value... just reboot and see how we go
[23:56] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I have a good feeling about this
[23:57] <the_count> My synaptics touchpad is not scrolling properly... I think this may be part of theproblem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121315/
[23:58] <Israel_C> Elimin8er: hi
[23:58] <xfceKris> drkjtr: xfce drive, but it was installed on the windows drive in the past. When I switch bios boot priority and moved grub to xfce disk, the windows boot partition and mbr got borked.
[23:59] <arooni-mobile> hey folks;  ubuntu 14.04 LTS here.  PROBLEM:  can't get flash working inside of google chrome.  i have tried installing the pepperflashplugin-nonfree with no result.  ideas?