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[06:11] <soee> good morning
[06:52] <soee> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/37113.html
=== sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:40] <soee> hiho lordievader
[07:41] <lordievader> o/
[08:17] <sitter> Riddell: please fix konsole stable CI and okteata stable CI
[08:17] <sitter> Riddell: please fix purpose unstable CI
[08:18] <sitter> Riddell: please fix rocs unstable CI
[08:20] <lordievader> I.e. please fix everything?
[08:20] <sitter> no, i.e. please fix everything you broke
[08:20] <lordievader> :P
[08:21] <sitter> shadeslayer: please fix ark unstable CI
[08:23] <Riddell> sitter: gotcha
[08:31] <sitter> Riddell: you didn't merge for 15.08 final yet, did you?
[08:43] <Riddell> sitter: no not yet
[08:43] <Riddell> still on marble and the ones you say above
[08:44]  * sitter fixes dolphin
[09:08] <sitter> wra
[09:08] <sitter> wrong window!
[09:08] <sitter> Riddell: do you want to be mentioned as orig-maintainer in kdebugsettings? currently you are maintainer, I am going to change to the team
[09:09] <Riddell> sitter: didn't clivejo package that?
[09:09] <sitter> -Maintainer: Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>
[09:09] <Riddell> or was it aaron
[09:09] <sitter>  -- Aaron Honeycutt <aaronhoneycutt@kubuntu.org>  Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:44:12 +0000
[09:09] <Riddell> yeah stick him down
[09:09] <Riddell> he's just too modest and let me take he credit
[09:19] <sitter>  * Qt5XmlPatterns (required version >= 5.5.1) , Qt5 XmlPatterns Module , <http://qt.io/>
[09:20] <sitter> one day upstreams will make reasonable version requirements I am sure of it
[09:23] <Riddell> yofel: how come you dropped marble-qt?
[09:24] <yofel> what's the point of a qt-only marble in a kf5 world? (or what was the point of kf5 again?)
[09:24] <yofel> I mean, keep it if you want. You'll have to double-build marble though
[09:27] <Riddell> it builds it as part of the normal build, and indeed there's not much  point but I expect upstream will complain if we don't ship it
[09:30] <yofel> it is? keep it then I guess
[09:30] <yofel> I never got as far as having a fully working kf5 build to check that
[09:54] <sitter> Riddell: ping
[09:54] <Riddell> hi sitter
[09:54] <sitter> Riddell: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kmailtransport.git/tree/debian/libkf5mailtransport5.install?h=kubuntu_stable
[09:54] <sitter> do you think we should leave the kcm_.so in the lib package?
[09:55] <Riddell> hmm that feels wrong
[09:55] <sitter> other option would be a separate package with a recommends, while that makes the lib package more compliant it will however end up loosing the kcm should the so get a bump
[09:56] <sitter> so it's naughty packaging vs. users possibly loosing the kcm (iff the so version gets a change)
[09:57] <Riddell> why would the kcm get lost? it would just be updated and link against the new package
[09:58] <sitter> Riddell: in a perfect world it would, in an imperfect world unless there is a hard dependency on the KCM somewhere in the stack it will get removed if there is an upgrade path that does not entail changing mailtransport
[09:58] <sitter> as we have seen with baloo, albeit in a more complicated scenario
[09:58] <Riddell> mm
[09:59] <sitter> I am fine with splitting it though
[09:59] <Riddell> yeah me too
[10:05] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ahoneybun: do you still need this ec2?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> sitter: I thought I did yesterday
[10:12] <shadeslayer> brrr
[10:12] <shadeslayer> dafuq
[10:15] <sitter> Riddell: ping
[10:15] <Riddell> hi sitter
[10:15] <sitter> Riddell: more questions .. kdepimlibs has presently man libs that eventually might get split I hear. should I make independent data packages or one big bundling all data?
[10:16] <sitter> I am content to go with latter for now as most libs that have data have only a kcfg file and maybe a mime file
[10:16] <Riddell> yeah one big one seems fine, if we faff around with small ones they'll only be likely to change later
[10:17] <shadeslayer> sitter: fixed
[10:18] <sitter> どうも
[10:44] <sitter> Riddell: so what do we do witht he missing dep http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_oxygen/21/parsed_console/job/wily_stable_oxygen/21/parsed_console/log_content.html#WARNING1
[10:44] <sitter> ignore or fix?
[10:45] <Riddell> KCI-W :: Missing Dep: KDE4Workspace (required version >= 4.9.80)  that doesn't exist any more does it?
[10:45] <sitter> Riddell: you killed it
[10:45] <sitter> apparently upstream thinks it should exist?
[10:45] <sitter> actually
[10:45] <sitter> Riddell: this needs taking upstraem
[10:45] <Riddell> right
[10:45] <sitter> kde-workspace is EOL this month
[10:45] <sitter> so it makes no sense to look for it in oxygen 5.4
[10:46] <sitter> Riddell: I am throwing together a quick mail
[10:46] <snele> still no dolphin 15.08 update for wily, but for exmp i got gwenview 15.08 update yesterday. where is dolphin update? i want to test it :)
[11:04] <sitter> Riddell: kgapi needs packaging. currently it is a full source repo. shoudl we fork the repo?
[11:04] <Riddell> sitter: yeah do it
[11:05] <sitter> what name?
[11:05] <sitter> could just make a kubuntu folder maybe?
[11:05] <sitter> i.e. kde-extras/libkgapi becomes kubuntu/libkgapi?
[11:06] <Riddell> hmm inelegant but I guess so is forking an existing repo
[11:06] <Riddell> so sure
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:28]  * Riddell uploads marble
[11:31] <BluesKaj> feature freeze tomorrow, then it'll be a good day to do other things
[11:40] <Riddell> snele: dolphin passed new now
[11:50] <sitter> Riddell: if you have time revu needed for port http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kubuntu/libkgapi.git/log/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[12:03] <sebas> Riddell: are there 5.4 beta packages for 15.04?
[12:05] <Riddell> sebas: I'm afraid not
[12:05] <sebas> there will be backports once it's stable I suppose?
[12:08] <Riddell> sebas: scarlett seems to do backports readily, she just happens to be away this week
[12:08] <sebas> ok, no worries ... was just wondering if I could already upgrade my desktop with packages
[12:12] <sitter> transition for kgapi seems clearly only kdepim rdeps
[12:12] <sitter> same for libkolab(xml)
[12:23] <sitter> Riddell: please fix ktnef stable, ktnef unstable, kontactinterface stable, kontactinterface unstable, kmime stable, kmime unstable, kldap unstable, kldap stable, kholidays stable, kholidays unstable
[12:24] <sitter> Riddell: please also fix kdebugsettings stable and unstable
[12:25] <sitter> Riddell: please also fix gpgmepp stable and unstable
[12:47] <soee> when can we expect this to be fixed: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not installable ? :)
[12:49] <sitter> at some point between now and release
[12:51] <soee> :-(
[12:52] <sitter> Riddell: please also fix kpimtextedit unstable and stable, kcontacts unstable and stable, kcalcore unstable and stable
[12:52] <Riddell> sitter: gotcha, some of these will have to keep their epoch alas
[12:54] <sitter> also kmbox 
[15:12] <clivejo> hummm
[15:13] <clivejo> anyone running Kontact 15.07.90 in wily?
[15:48]  * Riddell pushes lots to git packaging
[15:49] <clivejo> Riddell: anything I can work on?
[15:53] <Riddell> clivejo: there is applications 15.08 final
[15:53] <Riddell> clivejo: that involves using the kubuntu-automation scripts to upload them to the PPA
[15:54] <Riddell> clivejo: you could give that a try on the ec2 I have set up for ovidiu-florin and ahoneybun but which they don't seem to have used
[15:55] <ahoneybun> we used it
[15:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: then you didn't tell me if I could shut it off :)
[15:56] <Riddell> clivejo: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-159-220-46.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[15:56] <ahoneybun> I did
[15:56] <clivejo> poor credit card
[15:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I didn't hear you
[15:56] <clivejo> Riddell: I have to go for an hour or so
[15:56] <clivejo> you be about later?
[15:57] <clivejo> with the freeze tomorrow, will 15.08 make it in?
[15:57] <Riddell> clivejo: maybe, I'm not sure what my plans are
[15:57] <Riddell> clivejo: yes, it's got no new features
[15:57] <Riddell> only new features are the issue
[15:58] <clivejo> hope this kontact bug is fixed
[15:58] <clivejo> well two are fixed
[15:58] <clivejo> both are annoying
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I've tested digikam
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> it works awesome
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> it's faaaaaaar more fluid and snappy than before
[19:31] <ahoneybun> sweet
[19:31]  * clivejo cheers and yodels
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> If it get's promoted to an official ppa, please let me know
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> or if you want to delete the ppa from your account
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> I'm going to keep using it from your ppa until then
[19:32] <ahoneybun> it'll be on the backports PPA
[19:32] <ahoneybun> once it gets more QA
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> + they've added a few more extreeeemly usefull buttons :D
[19:32] <ahoneybun> I'll keep it up for you
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[19:32]  * ovidiu-florin >:D< ahoneybun
[19:32] <ahoneybun> I mean LP is hosting lol
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: yes, but your account has a limit AFAIK
[19:33] <ahoneybun> of course
[19:34] <clivejo> and digikam is big :/
[19:37] <ovidiu-florin> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350930 is solved
[19:37] <ubottu> KDE bug 350930 in general "UI freeze when importing to remote sotrage" [Crash,Resolved: fixed]
[19:46] <TJ-> LP PPA limits can be increased; you just have to request it
[19:46] <mamarley> Also, size limits are not respected when copying packages between PPAs.
[19:47] <clivejo> nope
[21:06] <[Relic]> Wow, that is truely sad.  Not one person seems to even have the slightest clue if sessions save and restore properly in 15.04.  Since 14.10 only had a 9month cycle would be great to know.  Are that few people using 15.x that no one knows if open applications show up on the assigned virtual desktops when starting or restarting the system after a shutdown or reboot?
[22:22] <clivejo> [Relic]: this is the devel channel, which is development of Wily 15.10
[22:23] <clivejo> have you tried asking in the #kubuntu channel
[22:33] <yofel> [Relic]: FWIW, dolphin and quassel restore fine in plasma5 on 15.04 with backports here. Haven't tried other applications, and I only have them on desktop1