[00:00] <xfceKris> For a while, windows wouldn't even boot at all, but somehow I managed to make it work. When I did, apparently the boot partition is no longer how it boots, instead it boots via the main partition on the windows drive.
[00:00] <BTJustice> Doesn't Chrome already come with Flash?
[00:00] <the_count> arooni-mobile: Have you tried reinstalling Chrome?
[00:00] <the_count> Bashing-om
[00:00] <Dyjoex> TJ-:apparently my nickname was already in use. Nothing different yet I'm also almost out of time my roommate having to go to work in around 5 hours nd all
[00:00] <arooni-mobile> the_count, like sudo apt-get install --reinstall chrome ?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> the_count: aye ?
[00:01] <TJ-> Dyjoex: Looks like you didn't log out of IRC before reboot. OK ... do you want to try again another evening?
[00:01] <k1l_> arooni-mobile: did you restart chrome?
[00:01] <arooni-mobile> yes did restart chrome after installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[00:01] <drkjtr> xfceKris: I've done some of the same myself. Sounds like grub, loaded into the windows drive, while the other items that linux needs to boot went to your boot partition. I know you said that you don't have a Windows disk, have you tried Hiren's Boot Disk?
[00:01] <TJ-> Dyjoex: Before you go though, can you "pastebinit <(rfkill list)" so I know what is there on a fresh boot
[00:02] <xfceKris> drkjtr, I havent yet. I'll google it.
[00:02] <the_count> Yesarooni-mobile: Yes
[00:02] <xfceKris> Also, I noticed that with gparted, I can mark partition with boot flags. I'
[00:02] <k1l_> arooni-mobile: try a sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[00:02] <xfceKris> mI'm wondering what that may do to the windows drive.
[00:02] <TJ-> Dyjoex: and a test you can do for yourself at any time. Boot it with "acpi_osi="Windows 2012"   " on the kernel command-line. The DSDT shows that seems to enable most services
[00:02] <Israel_C> k1l_: sup
[00:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: My synaptics touchpad is not scrolling properly... I think this may be part of theproblem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121315/
[00:03] <drkjtr> xfceKris: It has a lot of rescue options for Windows, but neat enough, includes a lot of *unix utilities as well.
[00:03] <arooni-mobile> still doenst sowrk k1l_ :\
[00:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry, touchpads are not in my skill set . No experience .
[00:03] <Dyjoex> TJ-: I'll probably come back after he wakes up and contact you if your are on , I work on my pc at night since I have deadlines and sleep during the day, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121341/ this is the pastebin it seems it changed to its old form i'll boot it in the morning with the new command line
[00:04] <xfceKris> drkjtr, would this be it? http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[00:04] <TJ-> Dyjoex: I'm in the U..K. so generally on european time
[00:04] <drkjtr> Well, it would restore the Windows MBR. But, it would over write the grub, and might bork the grub running at all.  That then means you get to do a grub rescue.
[00:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: How about to reinstall it, would you know how to do that?
[00:04] <k1l_> Israel_C aka neogeo, what about you leave this support channel alone?
[00:05] <the_count> Bashing-om To fix the broken packages
[00:05] <drkjtr> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/
[00:05] <Israel_C> k1l_: discrimination?
[00:05] <burrito_> been playing with uck, trying to build an lubuntu deriv, despite the fact that I've figured out how to do all kinds of really neato stuff, cannot get default background to change through the schemas. Any know much about uck in here?
[00:05] <TJ-> Dyjoex: I think the "Windows 2012" will be the best hope if it is only a firmware issue, as we think it is since you had it randomly enabling itself
[00:05] <Dyjoex> TJ-: see you later, I'll contact you if I see you n the list , bye
[00:06] <TJ-> Dyjoex: you can also send me memos with "/msg memoserv send TJ- <message>"
[00:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: I would consider that perhaps a touchpad has a driver, and as such that 'module' should be re-installable. But, again no experience . IF you think it is a broken package, what does the package manager say ?
[00:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did you look at this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121315/
[00:09] <TJ-> Dang! Just seen in the ACPI DSDT that "Windows 2012" does enable the hardware kill switch
[00:09] <BTJustice> Is there a way to change the color depth?  I do not have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 so I have no idea how to do it.
[00:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: I Have not looked, doing so ATT .
[00:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[00:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core ; apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core ' ?
[00:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121374/
[00:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121374/ .
[00:17] <surgy> hello
[00:17] <the_count> hi
[00:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: UNgood, and apt-cache says what ?
[00:17] <surgy> i need help turning my keyboard into a musical keyboard
[00:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: ^ Refresh my memory, what release are we working with here ?
[00:19] <the_count> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS And Latest Kernel
[00:19] <burrito_> anybody in here familiar with u.c.k.?
[00:19] <the_count> Bashing-om And not sure I understand your last message.
[00:20] <surgy> im running kubuntu 14.04 how do i switch from pulse audio to jack.... and will my sound still work properly?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: I would like to also see the output of 'apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core' , and what is the release you are running ?
[00:22] <jkano> Hey
[00:25] <the_count> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121401/
[00:25] <the_count> Sorry, I forgot to add the Bashing-om: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS And Latest Kernel
[00:25] <Bashing-om> the_count: K
[00:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: What results ' sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ' ?
[00:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121409/
[00:28] <the_count> burrito_ I have not
[00:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121409/ .
[00:30] <the_count> surgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003466 and http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=167814, Kind of like that?
[00:31] <wafflejock> surgy: if you google on pulseaudio and jack in ubuntu there's a package that is supposed to help them automatically switch on and off
[00:31] <wafflejock> surgy: in my personal experience I still had to manually kill/start jack and pulseaudio though
[00:31] <wafflejock> surgy: Jack would work for the midi things I was trying to do and pulseaudio had to be running in order for YouTube videos to play (otherwise they just lock on the first frame strangely)
[00:32] <finetundra_> hey guys, does anyone know a software like XRDP but that uses a newer RDP version?
[00:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: What have you done ? // Let's get an overall status of the packages ' sudo apt-get update ;  sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' Then we go back to addressing the dependency issues .
[00:32] <wafflejock> finetundranot sure about the version of RDP but have you tried remmina
[00:33] <finetundra_> wafflejock: um, I'm looking for the server hosting software not the client
[00:34] <the_count> Bashing-om... I haven't done anything that i am aware of... Although I do remember distantly an update window closing in the past week... I cause lots of trouble don't I.
[00:34] <wafflejock> finetundra ah gotcha, yeah not sure for linux serving up the display I've typically just seen it done with an SSH tunnel or with VNC or x2go, didn't know there were RDP options
[00:35] <finetundra_> wafflejock: well, thanks anyway
[00:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, all completed succesfully. And btw, That upgrade did reinstall at a not-very-much-later-date
[00:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: No trouble, that is not at all an issue. Keeping your system stable is a trouble here lately. Makes we wonder what you are doing, is all, that is breaking it . Be advised I broke my system(s) many times in my learning curve .
[00:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I got to go now... And yes, the story of a 15 year old trying to learn linux... Sorry for the abruptness...
[00:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: The result of '-f install is all zero's and there is only a return to prompt from the dpkg request ?
[00:39] <jkano> how to use kismet
[00:39] <jkano> ??
[00:40] <notdaniel> if i want to easily maintain a bunch of my own bash functions and such, is it a good practice to keep those in its own file and then just source it from .bashrc?
[00:40] <notdaniel> plenty of apps and such request you configure by adding lines to bashrc, so just  wondering if there's a reason i shouldn't separate them like that
[00:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: You mean to tell me that ubuntu is not 15 year old proof ? ( a Navy expression for breakage ) .
[00:41] <drkjstr> notdaniel: I always set up a bin directory in my home folder for shell scripts I right
[00:42] <drkjstr> Then you can add it to your PATH via the .bashrc/.bash_profile
[00:42] <notdaniel> drkjstr: and just add that location to $PATH? so don't bother sourcing any bash
[00:42] <notdaniel> excellent, thanks
[00:44] <drkjstr> notdaniel: No worries.
[00:48] <juan_> gagag
[00:49] <pokergod> using -o allow_other with sshfs... When being a regular user, going into the directory and ls'n takes forever.  When i'm root, it's instant.
[00:49] <wasgay> 哪里可以离线安装mp3 mp4这些媒体解码器？
[00:50] <OerHeks> !cn | wasgay
[00:50] <juan_> porque no se instalan juegos por defecto en Mate 15 ?
[00:50] <OerHeks> !es | juan_
[00:50] <OerHeks> this channel is english only, please
[00:51] <pokergod> I have phpstorm setup in the launcher... how can I launch it as root?
[00:52] <OerHeks> pokergod, gksudo phpstorm
[00:53] <pokergod> (gksudo:17834): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[00:53] <OerHeks> not sure that is the right thing to do, running as root
[00:54] <pokergod> my sshfs mount is wayyy too slow when using non-root.  As root, it's instant.  Non-root, it works but takes 1-2 minutes to ls
[00:54] <pokergod> i just want to run phpstorm as root and edit the files and be done :)
[01:20] <qwertyzfg> my touchpad stopped working;15.4; dconf says its enabled; synclient | grep Touchpad -> TouchpadOff = 2; synclient TouchpadOff=0 does nothing; sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and reboot didn't work. help?
[01:21] <Sunstream> Okay Is ther a way to force my system to get the latest UBUNTU
[01:21] <jlg_> update-manager -D ?
[01:22] <jlg_> as root
[01:22] <Sunstream> sudo?
[01:22] <Sunstream> ok
[01:22] <jlg_> so "sudo update-manager -d"
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Sunstream: Depends; What release is installed presently ?
[01:23] <KingMack> hello
[01:23] <Sunstream> I dont know 14.10? r
[01:23] <OerHeks> the -d = development, i would not suggest that yet
[01:23] <Sunstream> that did it the nomal way did not catch it
[01:23] <Sunstream> it offers me 15.04 now
[01:24] <burrito_> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[01:25] <Sunstream> It is offering Vivid Vervet what ever a vervet  is
[01:25] <compdoc> its the animal they make velvet from
[01:25] <Sunstream> OH
[01:26] <Sunstream> -_- oookay
[01:34] <brlboy> Hello！
[01:35] <brlboy> 这个东西有啥用哈
[01:35] <brlboy> 聊天室？
[01:35] <compdoc> english
[01:37] <dw1> my screen no longer powers off when the computer goes to lock screen :[
[01:37] <dw1> 14.04
[01:38] <dw1> it blanks but doens't power down
[01:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well, staying covered up isn't a bad thing, And yes, it must not be highly polished for a 15 year old... Although I do try to act older.
[01:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: Hey, Getting into open source at 15 is a great thing . Are we back to working dependency issues ? ( I have cleared my board. will have to start all over ) .
[01:44] <OerHeks> dw1,  could be an DPMS setting see this old post http://askubuntu.com/questions/216783/ubuntu-12-10-turn-screen-off-when-inactive-for-never-still-turns-off
[01:50] <Guest43864> hei
[01:51] <gartral> hey all, since the advent of uefi and subsequent uefi-aware kernels.. are there any tools to control mobo settings that would otherwise require either a windows OS or system reboot to acomplish?
[01:52] <Guest43864> guys, how to install hci.h bluetooth.h hci_lib.h  to ubuntu? thks
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Guest43864: Android ?
[01:54] <Guest43864> pc.
[01:57] <Bashing-om> !info | libbluetooth-dev
[01:57] <Bashing-om> !find libbluetooth-dev
[01:58] <Guest43864> ok .  thank you.
[01:59] <ElevyNJ> Help! I hosed my ubuntu system. i have NO network now (wired or wireless) and a red circle with a white line through it on the top of the screen
[02:01] <drkjstr> ElevyNJ: sounds like you got rid of network-manager. Try: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[02:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'm not currently sure what what step we were on, but, how about we work on this tomorrow... I have homework to work on now.
[02:02] <ElevyNJ> drkjstr, I can do that without a working network?
[02:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: What do you think about CoreOS?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sounds good. I am done for this session nayway . shutting down ATT . // Tiny core ?
[02:03] <drkjstr> Good point. You would need a disk or USB with an Ubuntu installer. You can add it as a installation source
[02:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://www.coreos.com/
[02:04] <ElevyNJ> drkjstr,  I will have to do that tomorrow thanks
[02:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: Have not used it .. but any Software Development Kit is better than none at all . Got to start somewhere .
[02:06] <indy_> hello all- I update my kernel on my 14.04 box from 3.13 to 4.1.3 but have getting any update on branch 4.1.3. Any help would be much appreciated
[02:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: Currently I have a DigitalOcean VPS: http://www.digitalocean.com/ Which is running Ubuntu Server, I kind of want to switch but kind of not...
[02:09] <nick12345> so i have two keyboards on my desk next to each other and it gave me an idea: Would it be possible to use one for typing and the other one for macros?
[02:09] <nick12345> keybinds basically
[02:09] <the_count> If I don't have to remap the keys
[02:09] <nick12345> so if i press "a" on keyboard one it types a, but if i press "a" on keyboard 2 it runs a command
[02:11] <Freman> so... I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and I need krb5-1.13 - I can't find it in backports, can I just do what I'd have done for centos - download the soruce package and patch it to just use the newer source (I've compiled it by hand it's compat with all the same libraries)
[02:11] <the_count> nick12345: Maybe this would push you in the right direction: http://superuser.com/questions/75817/two-keyboards-on-one-computer-when-i-write-with-a-i-want-a-us-keyboard-layout
[02:12] <surgy> hello
[02:12] <bigragggs> Freman: did you check ppa
[02:13] <drkjstr> the_count: I was just checking that one too.
[02:13] <the_count> nick12345: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=84163
[02:13] <surgy> i just reinstalled lubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.13 how do i upgrade to 3.19 ?
[02:13] <indy_> any idea why I'm not getting updates for Kernel 4.1.3 on ubuntu 14.04 after I upgraded from 3.13
[02:14] <the_count> And then this one: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-multiple-simultaneous-keyboards-with-unique-layouts.html
[02:15] <nick12345> the_count, thanks. Is it possible to map characters from a layout I don't use to keys on the keyboard? I mean if i press a on keyboard 1 it doesnt run a command because its "a" but if i press a on a keyboard with a chinese layout it runs a command because instead of a its a chinese character
[02:16] <BTJustice> Is there a way to change the color depth?  I do not have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 so I have no idea how to do it.
[02:16] <Freman> bigragggs: ah I see one in there thanks, now I just have to work out where my add-apt-repository command is
[02:17] <the_count> nick12345: I really have no experience in the matter, but assuming you could have two layouts, I am sure you could remap keys on one keyboard differently.
[02:17] <qwertyzfg> I can't find an answer for my touchpad for now. I give up and boot windows
[02:17] <nick12345> thanks
[02:18] <bigragggs> qwertyzfg: you
[02:19] <qwertyzfg> I?
[02:19] <Freman> hmmm so far these are all for prescice
[02:25] <Parker__> hi Everyone, I recently updated my workstation to ubuntu 14.04 (clean install) and am now unable to configure my cisco vpn addon for the network manager
[02:25] <Parker__> the error is ambigious and not helpful for determining why the connection isn't going through...
[02:28] <SparkMasterTape> lol strange. so i am using hexchat on 14.04 , and i set my main chat window to be transparent. Behind the hex chat window I have the software center open. so its my hexchat window open on top of my software center window.
[02:28] <SparkMasterTape> the transparent setting on hexchat is acting as xray vision through the software center window straight to the desktop
[02:28] <SparkMasterTape> kinda cool hehe
[02:34] <surgy> hello
[02:36] <surgy> im running lubuntu kernal 3.19. i just upgraded from kernal 3.13 to kernal 3.19 and now my video card driver keeps crashing or something . lubuntu keeps giving me the crash report dialogue and my resolutions are wrong. i have tried to use the gui proprietary drivers install on both  fglrx and fglrx-updates drivers. my video card is a radeon r9 270x and i had the driver working great on kubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19.  ca someone please help me?
[02:43] <ubskeur> hello
[02:44] <ubskeur> my ubuntu 15.04 pc won't let me log in, the screen goes black and returns me to the login screen
[02:44] <ubskeur> I can't log in to the guest session either
[02:44] <ubskeur> and the tty sessions are completely black
[02:46] <boze>  when I boot my laptop it goes straight to a grub command prompt. I tried the Boot Repair Disk, but no dice. It gave this debugging info http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120966/
[02:48] <ubskeur> boze, looks like something wrong with the partition table, has this computer booted at all since you partitioned the hard drives?
[02:49] <boze> ubskeur, It's my normal work computer. All I did to it recently was remove "quite splash" from the grub file and update-grub2
[02:50] <boze> yes, it ussually boots ;P
[02:50] <ubskeur> boze, the update might have removed support for that partition table... wait around for help from someone who knows more than me
[02:51] <boze> <3
[02:51] <ubskeur> boze, though a solution that comes to my mind is to repartition with a more supported partition table
[02:51] <ubskeur> boze, there's hopefully a better one though
[02:52] <boze> ubskeur, ideally i'd like to get some stuff off before I repartition
[02:52]  * boze crosses fingers
[02:52] <ubskeur> boze, you could try booting to a live disc/usb
[02:54] <g2n> hello, i set up an ubuntu server and i'm trying to transcode MP4 files encoded in HEVC to a rasplex streamer
[02:54] <g2n> i followed this forum post for help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362745/how-to-install-h-265-hevc-codec-on-ubuntu-linux
[02:54] <g2n> but i still can't transcode h265/hevc
[02:55] <g2n> does anyone know how i can test this in ubuntu server to see where the problem lies?
[02:55] <boze> ubskeur, thank you :)
[02:55] <shlinux> hello everyone
[02:55] <ubskeur> g2n, that forum post is from 2013...
[02:55] <g2n> :(
[02:55] <g2n> i cant find anything relevant
[02:55] <ubskeur> I don't know anything about HEVC
[02:56] <g2n> does anyone know about HEVC on ubuntu server?
[02:59] <ubskeur> g2n, what version of rasplex are you running?
[02:59] <g2n> the latest
[02:59] <ubskeur> g2n, and what software is running on the server to transcode
[02:59] <g2n> im not sure, other than the plugin that was recommended in the forum post
[02:59] <g2n> its the plex server
[03:02] <aryan_> HI friends, should I need to compile systemd from source to install it in trusty /
[03:02] <aryan_> ?
[03:02] <Freman> so I think I'm about done...
[03:03] <Freman> but dh_install: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/krb5/plugins/tls/k5tls.so exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[03:03] <Freman> where do I put that to make it install?
[03:03] <Freman> (running dpkg-buildpackage)
[03:12] <ubskeur> Anyone here able to help with ubuntu 15.04 not logging in?
[03:13] <ubskeur> I'll just recover the files I need for now...
[03:13] <Tyrandis> wow, I didn't expect the chat room to be so big
[03:14] <ablest1980> hello i need to help
[03:14] <ubskeur> ablest1980, you could help me :)
[03:14] <ablest1980> im trying to update but cant its saying not enough space
[03:14] <ubskeur> ablest1980, how much space is there?
[03:14] <ablest1980> idk
[03:15] <Tyrandis> i never update ubuntu because it always bricks up....\
[03:15] <ablest1980> i had this problem before they had me delete some unneeded kernals
[03:15] <ubskeur> ablest1980, run disk usage analyser
[03:15] <ablest1980> how?
[03:15] <Tyrandis> omg... haha
[03:15] <ubskeur> ablest1980, what os are you running?
[03:16] <ablest1980> ubuntu
[03:16] <ubskeur> ablest1980, which version?
[03:16] <ryan_46> ablest1980: run df -h in a terminal
[03:16] <ablest1980> says do sudo apt-get clean
[03:16] <ablest1980> ok
[03:16] <ablest1980> 14.04lts
[03:16] <ablest1980> ok ryan_46
[03:17] <Tyrandis> jesus christ just go to the search bar and type in disk usageanalyser
[03:17] <ubskeur> Tyrandis, ikr, but I try to be patient with people ;)
[03:17] <Tyrandis> usage analyser
[03:18] <ubskeur> so apparently I don't have permission to access my internal hdd files from a live usb... crap
[03:18] <ablest1980> ./dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  451G  6.3G  422G   2% /
[03:19] <ubskeur> I now have 2 issues, one is my 15.04 pc not logging in, and the other is I don't have permission to access my pc's files from a live usb
[03:19] <ablest1980> running disk usage manager
[03:20] <ablest1980> analyzer*
[03:20] <ablest1980> ok what i do now?
[03:21] <ubskeur> ablest1980, that should show you which files are taking up a lot of space on your hard drive, as well as the amount of free space available
[03:21] <ubskeur> ablest1980, did you do sudo apt-get clean?
[03:21] <Tyrandis> lol
[03:21] <ablest1980> yes didnt work
[03:21] <ryan_46> ablest1980: Likely you will have to delete older kernels. What analyzer show?
[03:21] <ablest1980> yes
[03:22] <ablest1980> i dont understand it
[03:22] <ablest1980> ./ says most space
[03:22] <ablest1980> 6gb
[03:22] <ablest1980> hd is 500
[03:22] <ablest1980> gb
[03:24] <ablest1980> after sudo clean restart?
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | ablest1980
[03:24] <ablest1980> ok
[03:24] <ablest1980> hi lotuspsychje
[03:25] <ablest1980> installing
[03:25] <Freman> dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2
[03:25] <Freman> getting a little further
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> Freman: are you on debian?
[03:27] <ubskeur> I managed to access the files I needed, so now my only issue is not being able to log into my computer
[03:27] <wafflejock> ablest1980: the disk usage analyzer GUI should show you the total and the used space, on the drive when you drill in you should see where the major consumers of data are
[03:27] <ablest1980> ok
[03:27] <wafflejock> ablest1980: you can df -h, in the command line to get a quick picture of the drive too
[03:28] <ablest1980> did both
[03:28] <ablest1980> im going to run bleachbit
[03:28] <wafflejock> ablest1980: alright well in the disk usage analyzer you should be able to pretty easily identify where the big consumers are in the circle chart it gives you afterwards you can keep drilling into those
[03:29] <ablest1980> ok
[03:29] <wafflejock> ablest1980: there's a command line version of that disk usage type thing too called ncdu that'll sort the folders by usage, can sudo apt-get install ncdu, and run sudo ncdu /     to scan everything
[03:29] <ablest1980> ok
[03:30] <ubskeur> recovered my files \o/
[03:30] <wafflejock> ubskeur: o/ congrats
[03:30] <ubskeur> now, anyone want to help me log into my pc?
[03:30] <wafflejock> !ask | ubskeur
[03:31] <ubskeur> wafflejock, ok...
[03:31] <ablest1980> run sudo ncdu didnt work
[03:31] <wafflejock> ablest1980: sudo ncdu /
[03:31] <ablest1980> i also tried sudo run ncdu
[03:31] <wafflejock> ablest1980: ncdu wants a target
[03:31] <wafflejock> no "run"
[03:32] <wafflejock> I just meant type that in a terminal and hit enter
[03:32] <ablest1980> ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo run ncdu
[03:32] <ablest1980> sudo: run: command not found
[03:32] <ablest1980> ok
[03:32] <ablest1980> ok
[03:32] <ubskeur> !patience
[03:32] <wafflejock> ablest1980: will take a while scanning probably then should show you the biggest folder up top, can just hit enter to drill into it and keep doing that until you find where all your space is being taken up
[03:33] <ablest1980> its done
[03:33] <ablest1980> 1.5gb
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: give us more details of your problem
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: check firefox tmp folders too, with disk analyzer as wafflejock suggested
[03:34] <ablest1980> k
[03:34] <ubskeur> When logging in (both as user and guest) the screen goes black and returns to the log in screen. Opening tty freezes the computer on a black screen, and returning to normal (tty9) does nothing
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: ubuntu version, grafix card chipset?
[03:35] <ubskeur> 15.04 (upgraded from 14.10), asus r9 290 (fglrx), intel chip
[03:35] <ubskeur> *intel cpu
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: clean installs can help alot, if you need more stable try 14.04
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: you can also try the recoverymode
[03:36] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, 14.04.2 has a bug with flgrx that won't boot at all
[03:36] <wafflejock> ablest1980: once you find the files/folders with ncdu that are eating up the space you can just hit d with the file/folder selected to delete from within ncdu
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ubskeur 'fix broken packages' from there
[03:36] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, which options in recovery mode will be useful to me?
[03:37] <ablest1980> ok
[03:37] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I did fix broken packages, it removed 12 packages and fixed nothing
[03:37] <wafflejock> ubskeur: you can try the nomodeset parameter in the boot settings to use the vesa drivers
[03:37] <rredd4> any one use macbuntu?
[03:37] <wafflejock> ubskeur: when grub comes up hit e to edit the entry and add "nodmodeset" where you see quiet or nosplash options in the boot flags then ctrl+x I believe to boot
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !mac | rredd4
[03:38] <wafflejock> ubskeur: this would just be a temporary solution to use the default drivers until you can get the ATI ones sorted
[03:39] <ubskeur> I'm going to try a clean install...
[03:39] <ablest1980> delete contains of trash folder?
[03:39] <wafflejock> ubskeur: okay yeah I spelled that wrong anyhow
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yeah clean install 14.04
[03:39] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I told you alread, 14.04 doesn't support my graphics card
[03:39] <rredd4> lotuspsychje thanks, i know how to install ubuntu on a mac, just wanted information from people who have used the macbuntu
[03:39] <ubskeur> I'm doing a clean install of 15.04
[03:39] <wafflejock> nomodeset is the param not nod
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: you just said you upgraded from 14.10
[03:39] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, yes, 14.10 worked
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: how long ago did you try to clean install 14.04?
[03:40] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, february
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: try again, its 14.04.3 now
[03:40] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I clean installed 14.10 in february, and upgraded to 14.10 in july
[03:40] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, ok, I'll try 14.04.3
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: and enable internet+updates during setup ok
[03:41] <LonelyDanbo> Where should I ask about PC hardware cooling?
[03:41] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, should I update my live usb first, or use the old usb
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> LonelyDanbo: ##hardware
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: updated liveusb would be reccomended yes
[03:41] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, thanks
[03:41] <rredd4> does anyone have any experience using macbuntu?
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> rredd4: ask your real question
[03:42] <Guest84746> pearos?
[03:42] <Guest84746> how to change my nickname ?
[03:43] <ubskeur> Guest84746, /nick newnick
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest84746: /nick yourname
[03:43] <Guest84746> thanks
[03:43] <rredd4> lotuspsychje  that is my question.  I have not installed it and want to know if people like it or not, is it buggy, etc
[03:43] <aryan_> ?
[03:43] <aryan_> HI friends, should I need to compile systemd from source to install it in trusty /
[03:43] <ubskeur> rredd4, ok, that's your question, Is macbuntu good?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | aryan_
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> aryan_: you can install systemd on trusty, but need to tune stuff
[03:44] <aryan_> lotuspsychje, what tunes should I perform sir ?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> aryan_: well i would not very reccomend to do it
[03:46] <rredd4> ubskeur yes.  Installed another mac like linux flavor and had problems. Like when I close my laptop lid, it would not wake up.  Also, it would see my wifi router but not connect.  So does macbuntu have issues or not that are similar
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> aryan_: whats your purpose to do it?
[03:46] <ablest1980> The upgrade needs a total of 81.8 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 17.1 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !mac | rredd4 read
[03:47] <aryan_> lotuspsychje, cause I like systemd very handy and easy than sysvinit
[03:47] <mainframe_> so just a question
[03:47] <Johnny_Linux> rredd4  i wouldnt do it, just install cairo-dock and go to gnome-look.org and get some wallpapers, thats all you need for what your looking for.
[03:47]  * rredd4 know about mactel
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> aryan_: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-and-test-systemd-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[03:48] <mainframe_> what about for cpu miners with amd
[03:48] <aryan_> lotuspsychje, is there any defect or incompatibility ??
[03:48] <ablest1980> nvm XD
[03:48] <newname> ablest1980: You fixed it?
[03:48] <Freman> heh, mactel
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> aryan_: well trusty isnt really designed for systemd, but should work
[03:49] <aryan_> lotuspsychje, I checked that PPA and it says that it cannot go for productionm
[03:49] <Freman> now... I have a bunch of working krb5-13 packages, how do I go about setting up a local mirror for them? :D
[03:49] <rredd4> Johnny_Linux ok, you wouldn't do what
[03:49] <Johnny_Linux> rredd4  the macbuntu thing
[03:49] <rredd4> ok
[03:50] <Guest88641> hello all
[03:50] <rredd4> Johnny_Linux can you tell me why you wouldn't do it please
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> aryan_: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/420917/how-can-i-replace-upstart-with-systemd
[03:50] <Johnny_Linux> rredd4  it tends to get buggy
[03:50] <rredd4> Johnny_Linux ok, thanks.  Don't want buggy
[03:50] <ablest1980> im doing this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240697
[03:50] <ablest1980> newname,
[03:51] <newname> thanks ablest1980.
[03:51] <ablest1980> np :)
[03:52] <TechMonger> is there a badblocks utility for ssd? like usb drives
[03:52] <TechMonger> or something like it
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: what do you experience with your ssd?
[03:54] <moroniclibber> Hey guys.  I just have a question regarding mir.  Do you think it'll be an issue for certain applications?  My concern is that applications will be ported over to wayland but won't for mir
[03:54] <TechMonger> nothing. i just want to test it before i install a os on it
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !mir | moroniclibber
[03:54] <TechMonger> lotuspsychje,  nothing. i just want to test it before i install a os on it
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: ssd will be fine to run ubuntu on, wich brand do you have?
[03:55] <TechMonger> umm
[03:55] <TechMonger> sandisk
[03:55] <moroniclibber> lotuspsychje, I read that before but what I'm wondering is for applications like Libreoffice and Firefox can we expect them to run natively on mir?  I know they are getting wayland ports
[03:55] <TechMonger> what would be the best version of ub to run on a usb drive?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: check the sandisk website for firmware updates, this will be most important part before installing an Os
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: your choice really, LTS for more stable
[03:56] <TechMonger> lts?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !lts | TechMonger
[03:57] <TechMonger> what is the install without the gui called?
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: you can choose minimal,server,alternative installs
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: but why would you no GUI?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> moroniclibber: not sure mate, you could try #ubuntu-devel or #snappy to ask about mir perhaps
[03:59] <moroniclibber> Ok
[03:59] <sorbentlay> can anyone assist with upstart and setuid? i keep getting in my log Purpose: changes uid, then executes command
[04:00] <TechMonger> lotuspsychje, to save space.
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: how bis is your sandisk?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> big
[04:00] <TechMonger> 2gig
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> wow
[04:00] <TechMonger> =]
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: try a lubuntu perhaps and finetune it extreme lol :p
[04:01] <TechMonger> should i just use knopix or something else?
[04:02] <TechMonger> what is lubuntu?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: or a minimal lubuntu and tune data space
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | TechMonger
[04:02] <ubskeur> TechMonger, lightweight ubuntu
[04:02] <TechMonger> ah
[04:03] <TechMonger> lotuspsychje, dataspace?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> TechMonger: yes, uninstall unwanted stuff, clean space to use the best out of your small ssd
[04:03] <demonlove> why do we need internet connection everytime for maknig application?>
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> demonlove: explain a bit what your trying to do?
[04:04] <demonlove> just a min m poasting on gist..
[04:05] <ablest1980> how do iget the latest flash and java?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !java | ablest1980
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: flash is pretty dead, use html5 instead
[04:05] <demonlove> https://gist.github.com/aj07/2466e32fae6f1afe00ba
[04:05] <ubskeur> demonlove, I think paste.ubuntu.com is preferred
[04:06] <ablest1980> its a game site
[04:06] <ablest1980> required flash and java
[04:06] <ubskeur> ablest1980, it depends a lot on your browser
[04:06] <demonlove> i  have made app  previously and there it installed all gem but here again it says run  bundle exec spring binstub --all
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: try chromium on your site
[04:07] <ablest1980> i got firefox
[04:07] <ubskeur> demonlove, what software are you using to make the app? It's probably best to ask the developers of that software
[04:07] <demonlove> ubskeur: there are many option on sytax box what do i  select
[04:07] <ablest1980> how do i get it with terminal
[04:07] <demonlove> means?
[04:08] <ablest1980> chromium
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:08] <ablest1980> ok ty
[04:08] <ubskeur> demonlove, plain text for most things will do
[04:11] <ubskeur> So the liveusb just got an error when trying to install...
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: what kind of error
[04:12] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, writing it down now, unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: how did you create your usb stick?
[04:13] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, download iso from ubuntu.com, ran startup disc creator from my 14.04 laptop
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: did you change bios settings correctly, uefi maybe?
[04:14] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I'll finish copying down the full error and then check that
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: if you need ubuntu only on an uefi machine, disable fastboot and secureboot
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: then f12 to boot your usb medium
[04:15] <llinguini> Sup
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: what can we do for you?
[04:15] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12122088/
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: try a nomodeset or no_acpi boot, but check the uefi settings first
[04:16] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, thanks :)
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | ubskeur
[04:17] <llinguini> So what's different in ubuntu than debian
[04:17] <llinguini> as somebody who doesn't know much about either
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | llinguini
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: for debian questions try #debian
[04:20] <adrian_1908> hello. I'm having the fglrx/kernel problem that I'm sure you've heard about. If I want to fix this within the next 2 days, do I have to do something manually, or will there be an update coming through the regular channels in that time frame?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: ubuntu version?
[04:21] <adrian_1908> well, actually Xubuntu (15.04)
[04:22] <adrian_1908> I figured that channel would be less likely to answer, so I decided to ask here
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: im reading forums they add radeon.dpm=0 to kernel paramter at boot also
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: for a more stable experience try LTS mate
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: or file a bug with your specific problem
[04:23] <tq> hello
[04:24] <tq> <--1st IRC chat
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> tq: this is an ubuntu support channel here
[04:24] <tq> ok, great, thanks
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | tq check these out
[04:25] <tq> great thanks... I just followed the tutorial
[04:25] <tq> bye
[04:25] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: the problem is already known (and occurred for plenty users). I was hoping someone knew more than me. My system is still running fine except for graphics driver problems and I don't want to break it manually, if an automatic update can do it safely soon.
[04:26] <llinguini> lotuspsychje: Well, I wanted to ask ubuntu specific stuff
[04:26] <llinguini> I think this is somewhere in the middle
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: this si the right place mate, ask away
[04:27] <llinguini> Let me rephrase, why use ubuntu, and not just stick with debian
[04:27] <cmdgy> My kubuntu have trouble shutting down. The wall-paper turned black, menu bar disappeared, but all other applications remains on screen. It just hanged there and I had to run shutdown -h now.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: this really depends on your needs mate
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: what do you need your Os to do?
[04:28] <llinguini> lotuspsychje: I want to run a server
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !server | llinguini
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: you can aks the #ubuntu-server guys what advantages ubuntu have
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: did you try to switch to other drivers?
[04:29] <TechMonger> how does ubuntu work with sdxc/exfat file system?
[04:30] <llinguini> lotuspsychje: awesome I
[04:30] <llinguini> I'll check that out
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> llinguini: your welcome :p
[04:30] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: yeah, I'm thinking of just switching to the open source driver, but I'm a little worried that this might somehow break my system due to unforseen interactions. The bug is here btw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1479913
[04:31] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: I've just started doing an online course on computer graphics and this is the worst time to get graphics driver problems :)
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: remember you can use LTS for a more stable experience
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: using latest can be struggle sometimes to finetune
[04:32] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: right. I'll definitely consider that for the future.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: you can always try a clean install 15.04 also and enable internet+updates during setup
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: the bug shows kernel things alot also, playing with previous/next kernels might help also
[04:37] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: Is it fairly straight forward to pick a prior kernel? Do I just call up the GRUB menu during boot?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: yeah try from grub
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: i surely would try a 14.04.3 fresh install with internet+updates also
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: just to see if your ati performs better on it
[04:40] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: I'll consider it. For now i'll see if I can get a quick fix. I still seem to have quite a few old kernel images on my drive. Thanks for the help!
[04:43] <allstarsnorks2> Hi there. I am having an error installing Ubuntu. It says the installer has encountered an error copying files to the hard disk. Error number is 5.
[04:43] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, the boot priority in the bios labels the liveusb as uefi
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yeah try to disable secureboot and fast boot then load up your usb with F12
[04:45] <nudoge> allstarsnorks2: what are you using to boot?  CD/Network/USB?
[04:45] <allstarsnorks2> I'm using a virtual machine, but the ISO is located on USB
[04:45] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, so change the Secure boot setting from windows (uefi) to other os?
[04:46] <allstarsnorks2> could it be a problem with the USB Flash Drive being connected to a USB2 port instead of a USB3 port?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: do you single boot or dualboot?
[04:46] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, dualboot
[04:46] <nudoge> allstarsnorks2: intresting sounds like premissions error
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: thats another case, read the uefi trigger its gonna be more complicated then
[04:47] <nudoge> allstarsnorks2: did you try moving the iso from the flash drive to a folder on the hard drive?
[04:47] <allstarsnorks2> I'm switching VM Programs
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | ubskeur
[04:47] <allstarsnorks2> I prefer not to @nudoge
[04:48] <allstarsnorks2> I'm switching my VM to VMWare hold on
[04:51] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, also, F12 isn't what I use to boot to usb
[04:53]  * nudoge wishes he knew more bout pxe boot
[04:54] <allstarsnorks2> What is with Ubuntu booting in 800x400 resolution in a VM
[04:55] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks2, in vbox, guest additions enables full resolution
[04:57] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, does windows 7 even use uefi?
[04:58] <allstarsnorks2> idk about vmware tho
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: you said you saw uefi on usb setting before?
[04:59] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, yeah, was just curious cos a lot of the tutorial talks about win8
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: its possible to install w7 on uefi machines, but thats more something for ##windows
[04:59] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, right, I was just wondering why I needed uefi if windows 7 didn't
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: i always single install ubuntu on every machine :p
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: the real question is, if your machine is uefi or not
[05:00] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, it had an option for win (uefi) or other
[05:01] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, that was in the bios settings
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: check your pc's website or ask in ##hardware perhaps
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: shouldnt be too hard to find if its uefi
[05:01] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, custom build, I think I'll just go with uefi until it breaks
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: if bios shows uefi stuff, its uefi :p
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[05:02] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, ok, thanks for all your help
[05:02] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, do you accept hugs as payment?
[05:05] <black> .
[05:05] <ubskeur> black, yes
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: lol, ill take a cookie :p
[05:21]  * ubskeur gives lotuspsychje a cookie
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:24] <leonic> et
[05:25] <aslowvo> ?
[05:25] <aslowvo> #android-dev
[05:28] <catalase> ** (gedit:2195): WARNING **: Could not open X display (gedit:2195): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :
[05:28] <catalase> anyone know how to fix that?
[05:28] <catalase> running ubuntu server 14.04 lts
[05:28] <ubskeur> catalase, graphics card?
[05:29] <catalase> ??
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> catalase: gedit is a graphical program
[05:29] <catalase> sudo -H gedit /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.grub
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> catalase: use vi or nano
[05:29] <catalase> ok
[05:30] <snowkidind> #join networking
[05:30] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, now grub isn't appearing
[05:30] <snowkidind> oops
[05:30] <catalase> when i run this command it shows new file
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: holding shift should popup grub
[05:30] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, it does not
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: maybe something went wrong with the ubuntu install where grub is?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: playing with dualboots can mess things up sometimes
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | ubskeur
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: why not make your life easy and install ubuntu single? :p
[05:32] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, what if I need to build windows binaries?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: virtual machine perhaps
[05:33] <mariano> The volume widget keeps coming up on its own. This is the same widget that comes up when you use the volume controls on the keyboard. It started coming up after I installed gnome alsa mixer. I uninstalled the gnome alsa mixer, but the widget still comes up on its own. I don't know how to make it stop from just appearing on its own.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> !sound | mariano
[05:33] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I found a section on setting up grub2 on uefi systems
[05:34] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Setting_up_GRUB2_.28U.29EFI
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yeah, its pretty complicated im not the uefi expert myself sorry
[05:36] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I just realised the small fat32 pertition I have is probably a uefi partition
[05:36] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, that's probably the issue lol
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: :p
[05:37] <catalase> how to format external hard drive dev/sdb
[05:37] <catalase> mkfs.exfat not working
[05:37] <catalase> ERROR: failed to open `/dev/sdb' in read-write mode.
[05:38] <ubskeur> catalase, have you unmounted the drive?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !info parted | catalase
[05:47] <catalase> thx u all for ur help
[05:55] <allstarsnorks> Hi guys. I seem to have dependency problems when installing a program. How do I fix this?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> " ... a program ..."
[05:56] <ubskeur> allstarsnorks, how are you installing the program?
[05:56] <allstarsnorks> via dpkg
[05:56] <allstarsnorks> dpkg -i
[05:57] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks, that's why. dpkg doesn't address dependencies.  install via USC
[05:57] <allstarsnorks> The program comes in a .deb, but when I install the .deb I'm seeing dependency unsatisfiable messages
[06:02] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade             THEN try your dpkg -i.  if it still fails, you need to manually add the missing pieces.  fwiw: dpkg is not the preferred method for installs precisely due to no-dependency support.
[06:03] <allstarsnorks> no worrie. Got it fixed.
[06:03] <allstarsnorks> *worries
[06:08] <ubskeur> Running a clean install of ubuntu 14.04.3 alongside windows 7 and grub2 doesn't appear even when I hold down shift
[06:09] <cfhowlett> ubskeur, but it boots?
[06:09] <ubskeur> cfhowlett, boots to ubuntu
[06:12] <tanker> I have just install zorin 9 my network card is not seen by zorin can some one help?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> tanker, sorry.  zorin is not ubuntu and is not supported here.  see the zorin folk for support of their distro
[06:13] <drkjstr> ubskeur: Are you sure your Windows partition is intact? What do you get when you type: sudo parted -l
[06:13] <tanker> ok tks and sorry lol
[06:14] <ubskeur> drkjstr, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12122472/
[06:17] <drkjstr> ubskeur: At least the partitions are still there. Have you tried updating grub?
[06:18] <ubskeur> drkjstr, will do
[06:23] <ubskeur> drkjstr, I think that worked, thanks <3
[06:32] <Dashell> so is there any way i can upgrade 14.10 to the latest version or am I screwed?
[06:32] <demonlove> jhass: why do these things happen for running each time
[06:32] <demonlove> https://gist.github.com/aj07/2466e32fae6f1afe00ba
[06:32] <demonlove> https://gist.github.com/aj07/2466e32fae6f1afe00ba
[06:33] <demonlove> why do it need extra installation since i have done it before
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | Dashell
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: clean install of course would be very reccomended
[06:34] <Dashell> well i'd rather not lose everything and have to start over
[06:34] <Dashell> i'd rather upgrade if I could
[06:34] <Dashell> i got the stupid message like a week ago and just figured I'd get to it in a few days
[06:34] <SpaceBebop> You can keep your /home most of the time
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: always make backups
[06:34] <Dashell> oh i DID make a backup
[06:34] <demonlove> hello is there any tutorial for ubuntu learner who  has just switched from window the hell
[06:34] <Dashell> all my stuf is backed up but I don't want to have to reinstall everything
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !manual | demonlove
[06:35] <Dashell> a clean install is reinstalling everything right?
[06:35] <SpaceBebop> demonlove: Why are you running RAILS?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: yes
[06:35] <SpaceBebop> !ruby
[06:35] <Dashell> yeah i'd rather just upgrade if it's still possible
[06:35] <demonlove> SpaceBebop:  posted on wrong channel
[06:35] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, so my computer was working... then I installed fglrx and it started doing what it was doing before
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: keep in mind it holds security flaws if you upgrade from an eol version
[06:36] <SpaceBebop> ubskeur: fqlrx is quite antiquated, what graphics card are you using
[06:36] <ubskeur> SpaceBebop, asus r9 290
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: yeah why dont you use driver ubuntu suggest?
[06:37] <Dashell> it hasn't been EoL for that long though
[06:37] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I can't remember...
[06:37] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, is there an easy way to remove it without reinstalling ubuntu?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: vunlerabilities doesnt need long to spread
[06:38] <SpaceBebop> Are you able to to !pastebin lspci
[06:38] <SpaceBebop> !pastebin
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: the additional drivers icon
[06:38] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I can't log in
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: recoverymode and failsafeX
[06:39] <SpaceBebop> ubskeur: umm, log in?
[06:39] <SpaceBebop> I'm not sure that is a requisite
[06:39] <ubskeur> SpaceBebop, same issue as I had before, logging in gives a black screen and returns me to the log in screen
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> SpaceBebop: he got an ati bug, so never reach to desktop
[06:39] <Dashell> i know i just really don't want to have to go through an install
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: then try the eolupgrade risk :p
[06:40] <Dashell> im looking at it
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: also if you want a more stable version try LTS next time
[06:41] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, failsafeX doesn't appear to be working, all of the options either end up in a loop or return me to the recovery mode menu
[06:41] <Dashell> yeah i should have just stuck with that
[06:41] <Dashell> this happened before where i waited to long to upgrade but I knew it hit end of life... so I thought this time around I'd just upgrade whenever it told me, but I didn't have time until now, I didn't realize i had such a short amount of time
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: hmm that doesnt sound good, what about a shell, can you still access that?
[06:42] <SpaceBebop> ubskeur: well, you have a couple of options, you can remove the fglrx driver from the command line, if you cannot get a terminal you can always ctl+alt+f1, if you have manually edidted the Xorg.conf file I would reccomend removing it.
[06:42] <SpaceBebop> Basica mesa drivers should be able to get you up and running
[06:42] <SpaceBebop> !ati
[06:42] <ubskeur> SpaceBebop, tty freezes on a black screen, no option but to hard shut down
[06:42] <minas114> Hi. I just installed ubuntu on a laptop but it could not boot after installing. to fix it, I went into bios and changed boot mode from "efi" to "csm" (something like that). I don't understand exactly what this means and why it was required. Any ideas
[06:42] <minas114> ?
[06:42] <SpaceBebop> ubskeur: try booting into single user mode
[06:42] <SpaceBebop> !single
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> minas114: did you disable fastboot and secureboot from bios?
[06:43] <somsip> !text
[06:43] <ubskeur> SpaceBebop, I think I got it from recovery shell
[06:43] <Dashell> where is sources.list?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Dashell
[06:43] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I ran apt-get remove fglrx from root shell
[06:43] <minas114> lotuspsychje, secureboot was already disabled
[06:43] <SpaceBebop> Dashell: etc/apt/?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> minas114: fastboot disabled also?
[06:43] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, worked
[06:43] <SpaceBebop> !apt
[06:44]  * ubskeur gives lotuspsychje a cookie
[06:44] <minas114> lotuspsychje, let me check
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: im gonna be stuffed soon lol
[06:44] <minas114> lotuspsychje, no, fast boot is disabled
[06:44] <minas114> lotuspsychje, it's set to "normal"
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> minas114: must be disabled to install ubuntu single
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | minas114
[06:45] <minas114> lotuspsychje, ok, it is. what about secure boot?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> minas114: also must be disabled
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> minas114: after that hit F12 to load up your ubuntu usb stick
[06:47] <Kartagis> is it possible to make apt-get install to ~/bin/ rather than /usr/bin/
[06:47] <Kartagis> ?
[06:47] <ubskeur> SpaceBebop, my video card isn't on the list of video cards at that link
[06:47] <SpaceBebop> Kartagis: generally no
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: whats your purpose to do this exactly?
[06:50] <SpaceBebop> !fglrx
[06:50] <SpaceBebop> Hmm
[06:50] <SpaceBebop> Well, is it a newer or older card
[06:50] <ubskeur> SpaceBebop, newer probably
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: maybe try the fix broken packages, after you removed fglrx
[06:51] <SpaceBebop> The past of ATI has been left to ruin and they hav decided to cut their losses and move on new, better and improved driver designs not hindered by their past
[06:51] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: I've got some scripts that utilise certain binaries. if they are in ~/bin/, I will then push all my scripts along with the binaries to my repo
[06:51] <minas114> lotuspsychje, with UEFI mode, ubuntu won't boot. It needs to be in CSM mode. Also, I can't boot from USB (but before installing it I could), as I get "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)"
[06:51] <SpaceBebop> The cost of this course of action is less then superb video support for older hardware
[06:51] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: I could later move them, but hey
[06:51] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, it boots now
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ubskeur
[06:52] <ubskeur> still not sure if I have the best drivers...
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: sudo lshw -C video to check whats after driver=
[06:54] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12122635/
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: not good, try your additional drivers section now
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: should say driver=radeon
[06:56] <Dashell> i guess 14.10 isn't in old releases
[06:56] <gartral> SpaceBebop: yea, hench why I prefer nvidia
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> minas114: not sure what you did exactly mate, read that uefi page
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: ?
[06:56] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, the option that is selected for the amd/ati device is X.Org X server (xserver-xorg-video-ati)
[06:56] <minas114> lotuspsychje, I formatted the disk by my self :/
[06:56] <ubskeur> Dashell, 14.10 is no longer supported
[06:56] <Dashell> i know that's why i was looking at here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#SpecificOlder
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: does it show active
[06:57] <Dashell> that's what someone told me to do when i asked if it's possible to upgrade from where i was at still
[06:57] <Dashell> there's always someone named someone in here XD
[06:57] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, how do you mean?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: does it show installed in your additional driver list
[06:58] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I'll screenshot it
[06:59] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, https://imgur.com/Gp5roNX
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: should be good, i wonder why lshw says unclaimed
[07:01] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, ok, I'll see how it goes
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: you might wanna check your syslog and dmesg for driver issues too
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> minas114: if you change uefi stuff, you gonna need ubuntu reinstall
[07:03] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, btw, I ended up turning off uefi in my bios settings and installing without uefi
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: single or still dualboot?
[07:04] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, dualboot
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: cool!
[07:04] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, but the windows 7 partition wasn't using/didn't need uefi (I checked, it still boots)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: you used the existing ubuntu partition to reinstall then
[07:04] <minas114> lotuspsychje, well, this pc had windows on it. I formatted it and created the partitions myself. I made one EFI partition, one for /, one for /home and one for swap. But in /boot I have a folder "efi" and not "uefi", like the web page you sent me suggests.
[07:05] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, no, I removed old partitions and put new ones on in their place
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: great
[07:05] <Dashell> i'm guessing the answer is no, but it's not at all possible to somehow switch to Mint without having to reinstall everything is there?
[07:05] <ubskeur> minas114, efi is basically the same as uefi I think
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> minas114: yeah, but if you cant boot there's something wrong about it right
[07:06] <minas114> lotuspsychje, problem is I can't boot from USB now
[07:06] <ubskeur> Dashell, no, and if it is possible, it's not worth the effort
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: why do you make it so hard on yourself, just clean install
[07:06] <minas114> lotuspsychje, (to reformat it)
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: clean install takes 30min of your life
[07:06] <Dashell> well the last time i clean installed, i accidentally deleted windows
[07:06] <ubskeur> Dashell, that was silly of you :P
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> is that bad? lol
[07:07] <fry_> just watch out for that grub 2 goblin
[07:07] <Dashell> ahah point lotusp.. yeah idk i can't spell youyr name
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> !tab | Dashell
[07:07] <Dashell> no but listen, it gave me the option to either overwrite the version of ubuntu that I had or just install along side it
[07:07] <ubskeur> dash_, type lot<tab> for autocomplete
[07:07] <Dashell> so I said "overwrite"... but it never asked me about windows
[07:07] <Dashell> i'd like to keep windows for some games I have
[07:07] <Dashell> so if that happens again, what do I do?
[07:08] <ubskeur> Dashell, there is usually an option for other, at the bottom, that allows you to customise all the partitions
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Dashell
[07:08] <ubskeur> ^
[07:08] <Dashell> i just wanna do it right since I don't have my windows CD anymore
[07:08] <Dashell> if I lose it this time it's gone for good, and I like my Sims
[07:09] <Dashell> so.. can i downgrade and still keep my home folder do you think?
[07:09] <ubskeur> Dashell, depends where your home folder is
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: you cant downgrade ubuntu
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: reinstall clean or upgrade
[07:09] <Dashell> well i think I might go back to 14.04
[07:10] <ubskeur> Dashell, that's a clean install
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: by the way you can play sims on ubuntu with playonlinux too
[07:10] <Dashell> oh really?
[07:10] <ubskeur> Dashell, which I just did (abd then found out was unnecessary for my issue)
[07:10] <Dashell> i tried it with League of Legends and had a hell of a time XD
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Dashell
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: check the playonlinux database online first
[07:11] <ubskeur> Dashell, playonlinux will work differently for different games, you can google information about how well each game will perform
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[07:11] <Dashell> yeah i tried to get League to work but it kept crashing so i gave up on that and just did a duel boot
[07:11] <Dashell> even though I played League like twice after that
[07:11] <Dashell> sorry i just didn't want to do a whole lot of work and I don't have any CDs anyway >_<
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:12] <ubskeur> lotuspsychje, I might consider a vm next time I build a computer, thanks for the idea
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> ubskeur: virtualbox performs very nice :p
[07:13] <ubskeur> alright, I'm going to enjoy what's left of my day
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: you could try the game .exe with wine also
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Dashell: if that works, maybe drag n drop the whole game dir onto external drive for a backup
[07:16] <Dashell> yeah i think I used to do that
[07:16] <Dashell> and it would work but would crash occasionally
[07:16] <Dashell> of course Sims is kinda crashy anyway
[07:17] <greg> i want to connect vpn on ubnutu on my college sever for running social newtworking sites
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | greg
[07:17] <greg> how to do it?
[07:18] <greg> ubottu: ok but i  think they are ppa
[07:19] <bazhang> greg, contact the maintainer if its a PPA
[07:19] <greg> how to identify it is a ppa
[07:19] <bazhang> if its on launchpad and labeled ppa, greg
[07:19] <greg> means?
[07:20] <greg> in sudo...... the is ppa then i assume its ppa
[07:20] <bazhang> greg it means just what I said, its an outside software source that ubuntu does not support
[07:21] <bazhang> greg, if you need help with it, thats your own issue, we wont suppport it
[07:21] <bazhang> !info openvpn
[07:21] <Dashell> oh hey, if i installed 15.04 can i still keep my .home folder like someone said?
[07:21] <bazhang> Dashell, yes
[07:21] <Dashell> can someone link me to that please?
[07:22] <bazhang> Dashell, is this an online upgrade or a fresh install
[07:22] <Dashell> fresh install
[07:22] <Dashell> i have 14.10 but i want to get 15.04
[07:22] <bazhang> Dashell, the installer should ask you if you want to preserve home
[07:22] <Dashell> really?
[07:22] <Dashell> awesome
[07:23] <bazhang> greg look at openvpn above
[07:27] <roh_> how to open files as root in gui
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> roh_: what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:29] <roh_> i want to open my folders as root  but in graphical user interface
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !gksu | roh_
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> roh_: and why do you want to browse folders as root?
[07:31] <roh_> because no one will be able to delete it without root permissions
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | roh_ for permissions
[07:34] <roh_> please give me link to understand ubuntu linux file system
[07:34] <somsip> !fhs | roh_
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> somsip: +1 didnt know that trigger yet :p
[07:35] <pokergod> i have   home -> remotebox -> remotemysql.    I cannot connect from home->remotemysql.   How can I mimic connecting from remotebox->remotemysql from home?
[07:35] <roh_> i need a link to understand  apache server in ubuntu
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | roh_
[07:36] <bazhang> roh_, thats not exlusive to ubuntu at all, try #httpd
[07:36] <bazhang> roh_, there are also many many online resources you should read fully on that
[07:36] <bazhang> !manual | roh_
[07:36] <bazhang> !server | roh_
[07:39] <roh_> how can i use multiple poxy ip's in ubuntu
[07:41] <killian> .
[07:41] <bazhang> roh_, why do you need to do that
[07:41] <bazhang> roh_, did you read of the many many links we gave you at all
[07:43] <roh_> i have bookmarked them i will read them after some time but first i will collect all necessary knowledge
[07:44] <bazhang> roh_, why do you want multiple proxy ips
[07:44] <roh_> to stay hidden while surfing the web
[07:44] <bazhang> roh_, thats for you to search out
[07:45] <bazhang> roh_, asking something general and adding 'ubuntu ' on the end does not change it to an ubuntu issue
[07:48] <roh_> ok then  tell me another way  stay hidden on web using ubuntu
[07:48] <skoude> Anybody using ubuntu openstack on production? I installed it on test, but there is not really a good documentation how to change the disk conf on install stage in cloud nodes
[07:48] <bazhang> roh_, it is not an ubuntu issue : search for how to stay hidden on the web
[07:49] <zetheroo> so it seems I have access to the domain shares but that Nautilus can't/won't browse them
[07:50] <roh_> ok then tell me  what is RF-mon in ubuntu
[07:52] <zetheroo> has anyone got any idea of how to get Nautilus to browse a domain location?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: windows domain?
[07:52] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: yes
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> !samba | zetheroo
[07:53] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: I said earlier ... "(09:49:59 AM) zetheroo: so it seems I have access to the domain shares but that Nautilus can't/won't browse them"
[07:53] <tven> I had a really weird problem, I unpacked a video file from a rare. Suddenly my hard drive space for VM was ziltch, I deleted a bunch of files, it quickly became ziltch again, after each file is deleted
[07:54] <bazhang> !info nautilus-share | zetheroo
[07:54] <tven> I restarted my PC, having almost no space. So I run a cleaner program, it frees up like 8.6gb or so, now it says I have 4gb free space.
[07:54] <bazhang> install the above ^^ zetheroo
[07:54] <zetheroo> bazhang:  ok, will give that a shot
[07:55] <bazhang> welcome
[07:55] <tven> As long as you aren't installing something, you can't get a virus with linux just by opening a rare or something, right?
[07:55] <zetheroo> bazhang: it's already installed
[07:57] <bazhang> tven windows viruses wont work, no
[07:58] <bazhang> zetheroo, so use it
[07:59] <tven> bazhang So got any idea where these 10's of gb of free space was suddenly sucked away to, or how to recover it?
[07:59] <zetheroo> bazhang: "Nautilus extension to share folder using Samba" -  I am not trying to share a folder from Nautilus
[07:59] <bazhang> tven, from the vm being deleted?
[08:00] <zetheroo> bazhang: I am trying to access a Windows domain location in Nautilus
[08:00] <tven> Virtual machine? I wasnt running such a thing, unless that is default?
[08:00] <bazhang> zetheroo, you have been at that for many weeks now, right
[08:00] <tven> bazhang, of course windows viruses wont work, never said windows virus, but could a linux virus install itself just by unpacking a rare or running a video?
[08:00] <bazhang> tven, nopers
[08:01] <bazhang> tven if you mean .rar
[08:01] <zetheroo> bazhang: tried several months back and then dropped it - am now trying again - been a couple days ... why?
[08:01] <tven> yes, .rar
[08:01] <bazhang> zetheroo, shall I get you a askubuntu link for that
[08:02] <tven> bazhang,  Virtual machine? I wasnt running such a thing, unless that is default?
[08:02] <sb_9> how can add binaryb data while creating a .deb file?   (dpkg-source: error: unwanted binary file:)
[08:02] <bazhang> zetheroo, I see many such of that on precisely what you asking
[08:02] <zetheroo> bazhang: are you referring to editing the smb.conf file?
[08:03] <bazhang> sorry tven wrong user
[08:03] <bazhang> zetheroo, nopers
[08:03] <badbodh> zetheroo, install smbclient, in nautilus(or file manager) 'connect' to "smb://blah/blah"
[08:03] <zetheroo> bazhang: well then sure - another url cannot hurt :P
[08:03] <_rsc`> Carefully explaining your problem is half the solution.
[08:03] <tven> bazhang, wrong user?
[08:03] <badbodh> zetheroo, your windows shared folder will be mounted.
[08:03] <zetheroo> badbodh: smbclient already installed
[08:04] <bazhang> tven your issue and anothers got crossed
[08:04] <badbodh> zetheroo, then in 'nautilus' look left column. there is a 'connect to', click on it and enter address "smb://...."
[08:04] <bazhang> !info teamviewer
[08:04] <zetheroo> badbodh: ok, so I have to manually enter the location in the address field ... that works :D
[08:04] <badbodh> where ...... is your windows machine's ip
[08:05] <zetheroo> badbodh: I was going into  Browse Network > Windows Network > DOMAIN >
[08:06] <zetheroo> badbodh: but whenever I tried double-clicking on DOMAIN it would error out
[08:06] <badbodh> zetheroo, for that you need to edit samba config in your windows machine. linux has nothing to do with that part.
[08:06] <badbodh> firewall, faulty config, there could be several reasons.
[08:07] <zetheroo>  badbodh: right, been editing smb.conf ... but what to edit precisely !?
[08:07] <tven> bazhang, So got any idea on my issue?
[08:07] <badbodh> dunno man, you gotta ask samba folks, read samba documentation, do some websearch zetheroo
[08:08] <zetheroo> badbodh:  yeah, been doing all of the above
[08:08] <zetheroo> badbodh:  when I ask the samba guys they say they don't know about Nautilus
[08:08] <badbodh> smb.conf of linux won;t make any difference here, windows machine is running the server afterall
[08:09] <badbodh> doesn't depend on nautilus either. samba runs in the background.
[08:09] <zetheroo> badbodh: seems to all work from the samba side of things - can access the shares - just cannot get past double-clicking the DOMAIN in Nautilus
[08:09] <zetheroo> ok, I'll go back in there and ask them again ;)
[08:09] <bazhang> tven, start a new VM <tven> I had a really weird problem, I unpacked a video file from a rare. Suddenly my hard drive space for VM was ziltch,
[08:09] <badbodh> zetheroo, is there a router in between your ubuntu and windows machine ?
[08:10] <zetheroo> badbodh:  not sure what you mean ... both are in the same network
[08:10] <tven> bazhang, I thought the VM comment was for someone else. So please explain than.
[08:11] <bazhang> tven you asked about the vm, start a new one, and recreate the issue
[08:11] <tven> bazhang, I never said anything about VM other than to ask about your VM referring reply.
[08:12] <badbodh> zetheroo, ok get this. step 1 : windows machine runs the samba server. make sure all configs and services in that machine is -ok- step 2. unless you have direct lan-cord to lan-port connection between two machines, there is always a router/gateway server that runs the "network", make sure that allows samba connections/ports and step 3. install smbclient on your ubuntu machine and connect to smb:// in nautilus.
[08:13] <tven> OK, try this again, I unpacked a .rar with a video. Between unpacking and playing the video, suddenly 10's of GB of free hard drive space has been sucked away, and continued to be sucked away after the fact, even with restarts. I was not using VM
[08:14] <bazhang> tven try again means try the actual procedure again not repost the exact same problem to this channel again
[08:14] <badbodh> zetheroo, this channel members will be able to deal with step 3. for 1 and 2 consult respective resources. windows, samba and networking channels
[08:15] <zetheroo> badbodh:  some network info: Windows Server 2012 DC/AD + FreeNAS with samba shares authenticated against Windows server 2012 DC/AD + 50 - 60 PC's
[08:15] <badbodh> zetheroo, if you have enabled ufw firewall in ubuntu, make sure you allow samba ports in it.
[08:15] <tven> bazhang, you mean downloading, unpacking, and playing the video again? And if suddenly free space starts disappearing all over again, that tells me what? I don't see that bringing me any closer
[08:16] <zetheroo> Samba shares are working correctly throughout network on Linux (Ubuntu), Windows and MacOS
[08:16] <zetheroo> badbodh: ^
[08:16] <badbodh> the did you try connect to smb:// ?
[08:16] <badbodh> *then
[08:17] <zetheroo> badbodh:  if there was a firewall blocking samba ports on the Ubuntu machine wouldn't that stop it working even with manually entering the location in the Nautilus address field!?
[08:17] <tven> bazhang, I don't understand you, and what does VM have to do with anything regarding my issue?
[08:17] <zetheroo> badbodh: yes, by manually connecting/entering address location it connects
[08:17] <badbodh> nope, ufw only blocks incoming, not outgoing by default
[08:18] <bazhang> tven, what sort of vm, what version of ubuntu, how many gigs were alloted to the vm in question, on which partition are these scores and scores gb's disappearing mysteriously from, or from the vm itself; clarify all of those issues first
[08:18] <tven> bazhang What VM?!?
[08:18] <bazhang> tven you repeatedly refer to VM
[08:18] <badbodh> zetheroo, "just cannot get past double-clicking the DOMAIN in Nautilus" <- check ufw settings. allow all samba tcp and udp ports.
[08:19] <tven> bazhang, repeatedly asked what VM! YOU are the one that brought up VM first!
[08:19] <zetheroo> badbodh: I though by default ufw was disabled altogether...
 I had a really weird problem, I unpacked a video file from a rare. Suddenly my hard drive space for VM was ziltch, I deleted a bunch of files, it quickly became ziltch again, after each file is deleted
[08:20] <badbodh> zetheroo, 'sudo ufw status' and check
[08:20] <bazhang> your original post tven ^^
[08:20] <bazhang> I had not commented yet at that point tven
[08:20] <zetheroo> badbodh: Status: inactive
[08:21] <tven> bazhang, I meant virtual memory, virtual ram, as in hard drive cache
[08:21] <badbodh> zetheroo, you mentioned both machines are on same network, is that network handled by any router/gateway server ?
[08:21] <bazhang> tven you should have said swap, no one says VM unless referring to virtual machines
[08:21] <tven> bazhang, sorry, I didn't make the connection between my abbreviation and your virtual machine comment
[08:21] <badbodh> or are both the machines directly connected by lan chord ?
[08:21] <tven> sorry
[08:21] <tven> OK
[08:22] <zetheroo> badbodh: Windows Server 2012 DC/AD and hardware firewall and switches ...
[08:22] <tven> bazhang, anyway, I also specified no virtual machine involved before when I was re-clarifying what happened.
[08:22] <zetheroo> badbodh: again, firewall is not blocking samba as 50 users use them every day
[08:23] <badbodh> yep. check that machine. something's gotta be there. don;t bother though, if you can access your windows share.
[08:23] <JustSighDudes> Hey guys, where can I find out what each of repositories is exactly? i.e If I turn on automatic security updates, does that update packages that are also updated?
[08:23] <bazhang> no idea tven, ask the channel every ten to fifteen minutes, good luck
[08:23] <JustSighDudes> that are also outdated*
[08:24] <tven> Can someone name a linux program that allows me to view hard drive space taken up, graphically?
[08:24] <badbodh> bazhang, tven what's the story here so far? just joined in
[08:25] <bazhang> badbodh, cannot reliably say, the story varies
[08:25] <badbodh> hehe
[08:25] <DJones> tven: Disk Usage Analyser https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Baobab
[08:26] <badbodh> JustSighDudes, rephrase your question please. one issue at a time.
[08:26] <tven> badbodh,  I upacked a video file from .rar and ran it, suddenly all my spare HDD space on the drive assigned for swap vanished. I deleted multiple files, some were many GB big, like a old ubuntu ISO.
[08:26] <tven> badbodh, every time I deleted a file, the space created by its deletion would quickly vanish
[08:27] <JustSighDudes> badbodh, If I enabled security updates, does that also apply to outdated packages? E.g if I had postgres 9.3, and then 9.4 is released in the repository. Do I still get security updated for 9.3?
[08:27] <badbodh> tven, your swap overflowing means whatever video you opened in your video player, was corrupt and resulted in memory leak. RAM got full, and swap got full after that.
[08:27] <badbodh> JustSighDudes, nope. 9.3 will be updated to 9.4.
[08:27] <tven> badbodh, I restarted my computer, I ran a disk clean, it freed up about 5.7gb, which is less than the amount of files I deleted, and now my free space says a even 4gb
[08:27] <JustSighDudes> badbodh, that's even if only security updates are enabled?
[08:28] <badbodh> unless ubuntu allows to run both side by side, like emacs 23 and 24, in which case both will get security updates. JustSighDudes
[08:28] <JustSighDudes> badbodh, thanks
[08:28] <erkan^> I saw that Firefox 40.0 is on Ubuutnu 15.04, while Firefox has 40.2 release. is 40.0 good?
[08:28] <tven> badbodh, a memory leak can continue even after a system restart?
[08:29] <badbodh> just check 'dependencies' section, if 9.3 and 8.4 'breaks' or 'conflicts', only one can be present. and 9.3 will be updated to 9.4
[08:29] <badbodh> JustSighDudes, ^
[08:29] <badbodh> *8.4/9.4
[08:30] <badbodh> tven, after restart swap should be erased.
[08:31] <tven> badbodh, but the space did not come back, and even more space kept vanishing after further deletion, AFTER system restart.
[08:31] <badbodh> tven, that's for your swap filling up. as for your hdd filling up, looks like somebody forkbombed you. never download .rar files containing vidoes. they never contain videos.
[08:33] <badbodh> erkan^, firefox will eventually be updated to 40.2 , give it some time.
[08:33] <Bern_> I cant install steam on ubuntu.. get this error "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: libGL.so.1"
[08:33] <erkan^> ok, badbodh
[08:34] <bazhang> !info firefox
[08:34] <bazhang> security updates very soon erkan^
[08:34] <erkan^> are you on 15.04 too? So yes, do you want to open LibreOffice Calc, and empthy field typ: your e-mailaddress example badbodh@freenode.net, than ENTER, what did you see? Gray too?
[08:35] <bazhang> try in #libreoffice yet erkan^ ?
[08:35] <badbodh> erkan^, no i am on debian testing. it is ubuntu's mommy distro.
[08:35] <tven> badbodh, swap and hdd filling up would be the same, since I didn't have a separate partition for it, it was set to /home, it seems, I dont recall what my swap is set to actually, how do I check?
[08:35] <erkan^> do you use LibreOffice too, badbodh ?
[08:35] <tven> badbodh, It did have the video file though, but there was a delay in its running.
[08:36] <badbodh> tven, run "cat /etc/fstab" in terminal, paste the output on dpaste.com, share link here
[08:36] <admin0> hi all .. i installed ubuntu via kickstart .. but on reboot it stucks at initramfs and I have to type exit to fix it
[08:36] <badbodh> don;t paste here, it floods
[08:36] <badbodh> erkan^, yes.
[08:36] <admin0> is it something common or is there a fix for it ?
[08:37] <erkan^> I make a new bugs on LO now
[08:38] <badbodh> admin0, do you have older kernels or is yours a fresh install. boot to older.
[08:38] <admin0> its a fresh install
[08:38] <admin0> ubuntu 14.04
[08:39] <badbodh> admin0, boot again, note down the last message where it gets stuck.
[08:39] <tven> badbodh, http://dpaste.com/28NP6YV But you said swap goes away after restart, so wouldn't this "forkbomb" also go away after restart?
[08:39] <admin0> doing that right now
[08:39] <admin0> is there a image paste service that you guys recommend for the screenshot ?
[08:40] <zetheroo> something else ... when I open something that needs administrative access to the machine like the User accounts settings (unlock) or install/remove apps from USC I am asked for the password of the local user (temp) and not the AD user that I am logged in with. Is there any way to change this?
[08:40] <badbodh> tven, i don;t see a swap. is yours "install within windows" or independent install on hdd ?
[08:41] <tven> badbodh, direct installed on HDD, no windows
[08:41] <badbodh> tven, i don;t see a swap partition.
[08:42] <tven> badbodh, It might be using /home for swap, I dont remember what I installed it as.
[08:42] <badbodh> how did you know swap is full ?
[08:42] <badbodh> can't use home as your swap dummy, home filesystem is ext4, swap filesystem is just 'swap'
[08:43] <tven> badbodh, I didn't, but /homes space was being continuously eaten up.
[08:43] <erkan^> badbodh: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93524
[08:44] <tven> To clarify, Only the space on my /home partition was being eaten up, badbodh
[08:44] <badbodh> erkan^, this is ubuntu channel, not libreoffice. for bugs on office, join their channel.
[08:44] <erkan^> Yes, but my English is no good. Can you understand what I have filled a bugs, badbodh
[08:44] <erkan^> ?
[08:45] <badbodh> erkan^, <didn't read lol meme> in this channel we discuss ubuntu matters only
[08:45] <badbodh> :)
[08:45] <erkan^> ok :)
[08:45] <badbodh> tven, have you installed 'bleachbit' app ?
[08:46] <badbodh> admin0, use postimage.org or uploadpie.com for pics
[08:46] <tven> badbodh, Yeah, I ran it, it cleared out 5.7gb space, which was less than what was eaten up, but even that space suddenly became only 4gb.
[08:46] <admin0> ok
[08:46] <admin0> waiting for the reboot
[08:47] <badbodh> tven, when you run it, make sure you deselect "wipe free space" option. that's what creates this problem.
[08:47] <tven> badbodh, I did. So that bomb you mentioned, can it survive restarts?
[08:47] <badbodh> tven, as for now sit tight and let bleachbit run completely. if you interrupted it midwy, lord help thee soul.
[08:47] <badbodh> *thy soul.
[08:48] <badbodh> tven, you were not bombed. forkbombs eat ram and cpu, not hdd. unless you modify it to write text files too.
[08:49] <tven> badbodh, I did. It ran completely, except for some system stuff it lacked access. It freed up 5.7gb, much less than that which was eaten, which further dropped down to 4gb
[08:49] <badbodh> tven, to put it straight. 1. you played a video that was possibly corrupt, ate up ram and swap 2. you panicked and run bleachbit, with 'wipe-free-space' on which ate up more space.
[08:49] <tven> badbodh, This was after restart, this thing seemed to survive two restarts
[08:50] <admin0> badbodh, it says here: http://s18.postimg.org/zbszou1nd/Screen_Shot_2015_08_19_at_10_49_22_AM.png
[08:50] <badbodh> yup, that's bleachbit. it saves some stuff in your home directory. removing it is a nightmare too.
[08:50] <tven> badbodh, no, I didnt run bleachbit till after restart
[08:50] <admin0> i type exit and all is normal
[08:50] <badbodh> doesn';t matter, you ran it once.
[08:50] <admin0> let me paste my kickstart file and pxe kernel file
[08:51] <badbodh> does anybody know how to remove bleachbit's 'wipe free space' junk from home directory ?
[08:52] <tven> badbodh, It's not the cause of my /home partition being continuously sucked up like a cosmic vacuum, even after a restart, is my point, since all this happened before running it.
[08:52] <badbodh> tven, stop panicking. repeating the same story again and again won;t change the fact you ran bleachbit without understanding what it does.
[08:53] <badbodh> now suffer the low space till someone suggests a solution here.
[08:53] <admin0> badbodh: my kickstart and pxe config:  http://pastebin.com/pyZTMnHG
[08:54] <trias> public service announcement: heute abend ist treffen und zwar ausnahmsweise in der Q-bar
[08:54] <trias> wrong chat :o)
[08:54] <badbodh> tven, now you ask others "i ran bleachbit with wipe freespace option, now my hard drive is full. what should i delete?"
[08:54] <tven> badbodh, I am not panicking, I am just saying I still don't know the cause. And bleach bit gave me more free space than before I ran it, before than I had zero.
[08:55] <tven> badbodh, I tell you, that is wrong! you misunderstand me!
[08:55] <badbodh> tven, run 'disk usage analyzer' and check occupied space.
[08:55] <badbodh> see which folder or file is eating up lots of space.
[08:56] <xar-> bleachbit seems like a scary program to run blindly
[08:56] <badbodh> admin0, lol. that's developer stuff, i have to tap out :D
[08:57] <admin0> its just a kickstart :D
[08:57] <admin0> file
[08:57] <eclectichedgehog> bleachbit does little more than several lines of bash in most cases
[08:58] <badbodh> i don't do haxor and dev stuff. keep asking , someone else may be able to answer.
[08:58] <tven> badbodh, It didn't tell me anything unusual
[08:59] <badbodh> tven, it doesn;t tell you anything. you need to check each folder and file size yourself. see what's occupying more space than it should.
[08:59] <badbodh> analyzer only show you pretty pie-chart and some other details.
[09:00] <tven> badbodh, I dont see anything in the folders that have significant space as shown here, having anything unusual.
[09:00] <eclectichedgehog> ncdu is a good tool to see what occupying space
[09:01] <badbodh> eclectichedgehog, some folks run bleachbit with 'wipe free space', and reboot in panic when they see 'low disk space' notification. and do permanent damage. do you know which folder(s) he should be removing to regain space ?
[09:01] <badbodh> i believe tven here has similar issue.
[09:03] <eclectichedgehog> i believe bb creates a special temp file somewhere, this will be taking the extra space
[09:04] <tven> badbodh, That isn't what I did though...
[09:05] <ircnode0> I have multiple eps-files, they are like foo1.eps, foo2.eps and foon.eps . How I can open eps files and watch like animation? Images are easy, once opened then I use arrow-buttons to cycle through all images. However, I can't seem to cycle eps-files.
[09:05] <eclectichedgehog> check this for bleachbit issue - https://askubuntu.com/questions/604531/irremovable-folder-after-wiping-free-space-with-bleach-bit
[09:05] <eclectichedgehog> and good luck lol
[09:05] <ejai> I use "dhclient interface" to get ipv4 address, what command do I need to run to request ipv6 address?
[09:05] <tven> eclectichedgehog, BB has nothing to do with the strange core problem that plagued me
[09:06] <tom-tom> hello
[09:06] <badbodh> tven, your core problem was swap full. that should be rectified after reboot. but then again you ran bb, which won't rectify after reboot.
[09:06] <Benze> Im new to Ubuntu. And I've downloaded amd drivers, trying to install it now in text editor. It's taking a surprisingly long time, cant remember it taking more than 7 minutes when I installed it on win7. Now it seems not to be finished for another 30 minutes :s Am I doing something wrong? I simply clicked the run file and the script ended up being read by Text Editor
[09:07] <tom-tom> hello
[09:07] <tom-tom> nihaoa
[09:07] <tven> badbodh, No, it wasnt rectified after reboot
[09:07] <badbodh> tven, for now sit tight and stop offering suggestions. let us find something and rule things out one by one.
[09:07] <eclectichedgehog> i never use the wipe free space option anyway
[09:08] <badbodh> hello tom-tom
[09:08] <tom-tom> hello badbpdh
[09:08] <eclectichedgehog> just too much of a resource hog and renders most machines useless for hours
[09:08] <tven> regardless, BB has nothing to do with my core problem, this is not a "suggestion" this is something I know
[09:09] <sai> hello
[09:09] <badbodh> tven, open terminal and run 'ls -a', show us the output on pastebin
[09:09] <tven> Hours? BB runs in less than a minute for me
[09:10] <eclectichedgehog> tven, im glad you have a cray at home...
[09:10] <tven> cray?
[09:11] <eclectichedgehog> nevermind
[09:11] <badbodh> Benze, just clicking on the text will only open the text file, not run it. look for instructions in the driver's archive. a 'readme' or something.
[09:11] <ircnode0> never mind my previous question, because I convert to eps to png then I can cycle png files instead of eps.
[09:11] <Benze> badbodh , are you sure? It does says it
[09:12] <Benze> its loading
[09:12] <Benze> .run file
[09:12] <boxitto89> ciaoooo
[09:12] <boxitto89> !list
[09:13] <eclectichedgehog> Benze, from a terminal do a ./progname.run - whatever the run file is called
[09:17] <Benze> electichedgehog , it's in /temp which I dont have permission in it seems
[09:17] <Benze> Or the file itself
[09:20] <tven> regarding BB, use "sudo rm -rf 'iJ5soqs a3'" to reclaim any space lost from free space wipe?
[09:23] <faust> Is there any way to export an enviromental variable to *all* upstart's daemons (in trusty) ?
[09:26] <Benze> Hm updating drivers didn't solve Steam issue. Anyone here succesfully installed steam on Ubuntu?
[09:27] <eclectichedgehog> thousands have
[09:29] <baja> im getting error while trying to connect wifi
[09:29] <PCatinean> Hey guys, how do I add a p12 personal certificate to chromium in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:29] <baja> guys look at this paste bin and help please
[09:29] <baja> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12123331/
[09:30] <PCatinean> Wait it's done, sorry
[09:30] <eclectichedgehog> baja, how are you trying to configure your wireless?
[09:31] <baja> sudo su iwconfig
[09:31] <k1l> baja: that is bad in many ways
[09:32] <baja> ok k1l
[09:32] <k1l> baja: first: dont do sudo su on ubuntu. second: what desktop are you on?
[09:32] <baja> create studio
[09:32] <baja> creative studio
[09:32] <jak2000> sudo chown -R glassfish:glassfish /opt/glassfish4   get me a error: chown: invalid group: ‘glassfish:glassfish’   previously i added the user: useradd glassfish   how to fix this error?
[09:33] <baja> k1l
[09:33] <k1l> baja: you mean ubuntu studio? or what exactly? please pastebin a "lsb_release -a" and include a "uname -a"
[09:34] <baja> yes ubuntu studio ok let me one moment pls
[09:34] <wafflejock> jak2000: according to man useradd, the group must exist first did you do groupadd first or did something else create the group?
[09:35] <ot0ul> 有没有会使用wireshark的人?
[09:35] <eclectichedgehog> jak2000, groupadd glassfish
[09:35] <idle94848> anyone know a gui unit converter for ubuntu?
[09:35] <k1l> !cn | ot0ul
[09:35] <jak2000> ok thanks
[09:35] <wafflejock> jak2000: if cat /etc/group | grep glassfish         gives you nothing do what eclectichedgehog said
[09:36] <eclectichedgehog> jak2000, then usermod -aG glassfish glassfish
[09:36] <ot0ul> 无线网卡模式下能用吗
[09:36] <ot0ul> ?
[09:36] <ot0ul> 有人吗
[09:36] <eclectichedgehog> that will add user glassfish to the new group
[09:37] <Guest33126> need help on efi boot on toshiba nb10t - 10G, any app to this automaticly in ubuntu ?
[09:37] <idle_> anybody know a gui unit converter?
[09:37] <idle_> for ubuntu?
[09:37] <k1l> ot0ul: this channel is english only. see the bots message
[09:37] <baja> paste.ubuntu.com/12123397/
[09:37] <baja> k1l
[09:37] <baja> trusty
[09:37] <k1l> baja: so why dont you use the NetworkManager in the desktop?
[09:38] <venkat-3494> hi
[09:38] <baja> i wanted to know how to using terminal
[09:38] <idle_> anybody know a GUI unit converter for ubuntu?
[09:38] <wafflejock> idle_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=unit+converter&searchon=all&exact=1&suite=trusty&section=all
[09:39] <baja> its much simpler i guess and i love to use terminal
[09:39] <eclectichedgehog> baja then try wpasupplicant
[09:39] <k1l> baja: no, its not much simpler
[09:39] <baja> i know but i like terminal
[09:39] <dupingping> hi, everyone.
[09:39] <baja> its wiser to use terminal
[09:39] <dupingping> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1484891
[09:40] <k1l> baja: you need wpasupplicant for that
[09:40] <baja> how do i get it
[09:40] <eclectichedgehog> baja you will have it already
[09:40] <baja> wpasupplicant?
[09:40] <baja> eclectichedgehog
[09:41] <eclectichedgehog> baja do you have network manager installed?
[09:41] <ot0ul> 中yygy
[09:41] <dupingping> it's critical bug of grub2
[09:41] <ot0ul> 中文频道呢.
[09:41] <baja> let me check
[09:41] <k1l> !cn > ot0ul
[09:42] <eclectichedgehog> baja if you have ubuntu installed then you have network manager and wpasupplicaant
[09:43] <k1l> dupingping: that sounds like a bug to report to grub directly
[09:43] <baja> no i dont i can only see windows manager and network connections
[09:43] <baja> eclectichedgehog
[09:43] <Benze> My steam installation cant run "libc.so.6 " , I tried running "sudo apt-get install libc6-i386" and update but nothing changes.
[09:43] <baja> is it under settings? or where can i find it
[09:44] <baja> eclectichedgehog
[09:44] <dupingping> k1l, more details
[09:45] <fixcolorprofile> hello, I'm new to ubuntu and linux as a whole. My laptop's screen has cooler color profile and ubuntu is showing bluish color in it. How do I adjust it? I tried changing color profiles from color manager but it didn't work. Example of color mismatch is youtube's logo appears darkest red (dark maroon) on my screen.
[09:45] <k1l> dupingping: try to report that bug to the grub project
[09:45] <dupingping> k1l, can you let me know the url for bug report?
[09:45] <baja> eclectichedgehog its not in the panel sorry
[09:46] <fixcolorprofile> I googled about the issue for a bit and it seems like you need a seperate hardware to adjust colors on ubuntu, while windows has easy and accurate color profile installed by default.
[09:46] <k1l> dupingping: no, i would have to search for that myself. please do the search
[09:46] <eclectichedgehog> baja you seem new to this so go read this and digest - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[09:46] <dupingping> k1l, yes, thank you.
[09:47] <eclectichedgehog> baja - wireless section
[09:47] <stagnator> 3/wc
[09:48] <fixcolorprofile> I just hope that anyone of you atleast know what im talking about.
[09:48] <baja> eclectichedgehog sorry dint mean to disinterest you thanks tho
[09:49] <eclectichedgehog> baja no problem, just trying to help you but it helps if you understand what you do
[09:49] <eclectichedgehog> baja, also it gives you a reference point to go back to
[09:50] <baja> yes thanks so much. However i have managed to locate it in the notification area properties. I just  need to make it appear in panel for future
[09:50] <fixcolorprofile> hello??
[09:50] <eclectichedgehog> baja make what appear?
[09:50] <fixcolorprofile> how do I fix color profile?
[09:51] <eclectichedgehog> fixcolorprofile, have you looked at your settings, im sure you can add correct color profiles there
[09:51] <aton_> hi
[09:52] <aton_> i am following a tutorial that tells me to install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386
[09:52] <fixcolorprofile> eclectichedgehog: I did. I can only use default color profilesm which are in accurate on my screen, I want to manually tweak it.
[09:52] <aton_> is i386 a kind of slot?
[09:52] <aton_> how can i specify it? possibly using synaptic
[09:52] <k1l> fixcolorprofile: did you look into here? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/color.html
[09:53] <mcphail> fixcolorprofile: I would recommend going the hardware route. You can pick old Spyder units up on eBay for < £5 (as they don't have drivers for modern Windows) and the results will be much better than doing ti by eye
[09:53] <fixcolorprofile> kll, mcphail many thanks.
[09:53] <eclectichedgehog> fixcolorprofile, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/color.html
[09:53] <akwxi_dave> aton :i386 denotes its the 32bit version program/file
[09:53] <eclectichedgehog> maybe peruse that too
[09:54] <aton_> akwxi_dave: yes i guessed that, but how can i install it? the button "force version" is disabled in synaptic
[09:54] <k1l> fixcolorprofile: gnome-color-manager
[09:54] <k1l> aton_: what tutorial is it?
[09:54] <aton_> android sdk installation
[09:55] <aton_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/318246/complete-installation-guide-for-android-sdk-adt-bundle-on-ubuntu
[09:56] <fixcolorprofile> kll  i have it installed but none of those color profile can be tweaked.
[09:56] <aton_> i could probably install it using the commandline, but i wonder how to install that :i386 in synaptic
[09:56] <k1l> aton_: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386
[09:56] <baja> eclectichedgehog : to make the network manager appear as icon in the notification area
[09:57] <eclectichedgehog> baja it should be there by default
[09:57] <eclectichedgehog> baja did you alter a file /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:57] <Bernzel> If I need to install some packages for steam, example "sudo apt-get install '^libc6.*'" does this need to be executed in steams install location? Or can I execute this from home in terminal?
[09:58] <fixcolorprofile> baja: https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/ubuntu/indicators + http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/useful-panel-indicators-collection-for.html If this helps.
[09:58] <baja> nope i messed with the notification icons and i lost some of the icons
[09:58] <eclectichedgehog> ah ok
[09:58] <aton_> k1l: as i said, i want to use synaptic. i found it now, "architecture" button and select arch: i386.
[09:58] <baja> i can only see them when i go to properties. Including skype and others
[09:59] <mcphail> Bernzel: how have you installed steam? All the dependencies should already be satisfied and steam brings it own runtime for games
[09:59] <eclectichedgehog> if you mess with /etc/network/interfaces file that can stop network manager from working
[09:59] <fixcolorprofile> baja simple solution is to uninstall and reinstalling unity.
[09:59] <Bernzel> mcphail , from software center as recommended
[09:59] <ircnode0> Just now I created 1500 process to run background, then my machine freezed for 10 minutes. Somebody know what happened actually happened? I ran convert command in backgrounds with different data. I converted eps-files to png-files.~
[09:59] <k1l> baja: so best would be to clear that mess instead of making more mess.
[09:59] <aton_> it says it will uninstall xorg and lots of other packages. why?
[09:59] <mcphail> Bernzel: then you shouldn't have to install anything else
[09:59] <baja> how k1l
[09:59] <k1l> baja: but that would have been a good info at the start. not the lies about "i love the terminal"
[10:00] <Bernzel> mcphail , then I have no clue what's wrong
[10:00] <ircnode0> after 10 minutes wait I pressed power button to reboot.
[10:00] <baja> hehe
[10:00] <eclectichedgehog> kil lol i love the terminal
[10:00] <baja> i had no option
[10:00] <mcphail> Bernzel: is it a problem launching steam itself or launching a steam game?
[10:00] <k1l> aton_: that is why "but i want synaptic" is a bad choice for supporters.
[10:00] <Bernzel> mcphail , launching causes terminal to give me this "Steam needs to install additional packages: libgl1-mesa-dri:i386, libgl1-mesa-glx:i386"
[10:00] <Bernzel> launching steam that is
[10:01] <mcphail> Bernzel: they should have been downloaded with the initial install, but just run "sudo apt-get libwhatever:i386" from any terminal
[10:02] <fixcolorprofile> hey, are all of you guys here from reddit? what is your base station? (home forum?)
[10:02] <baja> k1l how do i recover my  network notifications
[10:02] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel, i think the way is to uninstall current graphics drivers and reinstall steam and let it do the graphics
[10:02] <k1l> fixcolorprofile: this is support only. chat goes into #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[10:02] <fixcolorprofile> baja: install gentoo
[10:02] <fixcolorprofile> kll thanks
[10:02] <k1l> baja: that depends on what you did to your notification area
[10:03] <Bernzel> eclectichedgehog , I haven't installed any graphicdrivers
[10:03] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel, okay
[10:04] <Bernzel> And I tried running "sudo apt-get install libc6-i386" without success
[10:04] <mcphail> Bernzel: just install the packages steam asked for and your drivers should be fine
[10:04] <Bernzel> mcphail , I tried. It doesn't make any difference, it's like steam can't find the packages
[10:05] <eclectichedgehog> multi-arch
[10:05] <mcphail> Bernzel: paste the exact error and the exact command you tried to use to rectify it to a pastebin service
[10:06] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel, is multiarch support installed for i386 detection?
[10:06] <baja> k1l :is there way i can resize my notification area so that i can access all icons that have been hidden
[10:08] <baja> or anyone provide link as to where i can get help for notification are
[10:08] <Bernzel> electichedhehog: http://pastebin.com/aG1nLWRn
[10:08] <k1l> baja: what did you do?
[10:09] <baja> i dont know it was months ago. i guess i removed or deleted
[10:09] <k1l> Bernzel: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a pastebin please
[10:09] <aton_> k1l: i dont "want" synaptic. aptitude is fine. still why does it remove xorg?
[10:10] <aton_> how can i see why xorg is removed by the installation of libgl1-mesa-dev
[10:10] <k1l> aton_: i cant tell you because i dont see what you see on synaptic
[10:10] <Bernzel> kIl what?
[10:11] <k1l> Bernzel: run that command in a terminal and show the output please
[10:12] <baja> also my workspace switcher was removed
[10:12] <Bernzel> kIl http://pastebin.com/mSs4en29
[10:12] <mcphail> Bernzel: you _are_ running a supported version of Ubuntu with no PPAs?
[10:12] <baja> is there i can restore my notification to default settings
[10:12] <baja> k1l
[10:13] <k1l> Bernzel: run the updates. hit y
[10:14] <Bernzel> mcphail  , no idea. kIl  Ok
[10:15] <Bernzel> kIl , finished.
[10:15] <Bernzel> Try to launch now?
[10:15] <mcphail> "http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam" - does installing steam on 14.04 add that repo? Or did you do it manually? (I don't have access to my box just now to check...)
[10:16] <k1l> mcphail: they only have that precise repo
[10:16] <ayylians> I know this is a theme based error because default unity them doesnt have this problem https://u.teknik.io/1Gtinw.mp4 - so how do I fix it?
[10:16] <mcphail> k1l: ok - just looked odd
[10:16] <ayylians> please see vid - 1.2 MBs
[10:17] <Bernzel> Still get message Steam needs to install these additional packages:  	libgl1-mesa-dri:i386, libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[10:17] <k1l> Bernzel: sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 lib32stdc++6
[10:18] <Bernzel> kIl , nope. :/
[10:19] <Bernzel> damn..
[10:19] <k1l> baja: does this work on a new user account?
[10:20] <ayylians> another question, how do I stop ubuntu sending my keystrokes to amazon?
[10:20] <k1l> Bernzel: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[10:20] <Bernzel> kIl I have broken packages.. E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:21] <mcphail> Bernzel: "apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-glx:i386" and "apt-cache policy libglapi-mesa:i386"
[10:21] <k1l> ayylians: its not sending your keystrokes to amazon. see the privacy settings in the system settings
[10:21] <Steven_M> Hi all, I tried to add a ppa and I got the following error: https://dpaste.de/BUJF/raw Suggestions?
[10:21] <aton_> k1l: forget synaptic. i use aptitude now. how can i see why xorg is removed by the installation of libgl1-mesa-dev (using aptitude)
[10:22] <k1l> ayylians: and for the error ask the theme maker about it
[10:22] <ayylians> why is that whever I type words on dash, it shows me amazon search results? Now I have disabled it so it doesnt show there anymore. thanks I guess.
[10:23] <Bernzel> kIl , no difference. Must I apply these packages by rebooting or something?
[10:23] <ayylians> ok i will try to do that
[10:23] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel, does "dkpg -l | grep multiarch" return anything?
[10:23] <Wbill> can anyone tell me how i can make a ubuntu live usb drive made unetbootin persistent so i dont have to reconfigure everytime i use it i am presently using 15.? on an imac mid 2011
[10:23] <k1l> Bernzel: could be due to the kernel upgrade. i would try a reboot
[10:24] <Bernzel> eclectichedgehog , command not found
[10:24] <daya> Hi , is there any way to clear the second flag iU in the dpkg status
[10:24] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel, sorry, "dpkg -l | grep multiarch"
[10:25] <eclectichedgehog> typo
[10:25] <daya> I have some issues on lic6 dependecny and  apt-get install -f even don't solve it.
[10:25] <daya> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6-dev:  libc6-dev depends on libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.2); however:   Version of libc6 on system is 2.15-0ubuntu10.3.
[10:25] <Bernzel> ii  multiarch-support    2.19-0ubuntu6.6  amd64   Transitional package to ensure multiarch compatibility  eclectighedgehog
[10:25] <ayylians> my last question I swear, how do I remove flash player from ubuntu. It got installed when I installed ubuntu restricted extra. I switched from windows to ubuntu because of win10 privacy issues, so i hope you can understand my privacy concerns here.
[10:26] <baja> k1l: what are you referring to?
[10:26] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel, okay that seems fine
[10:28] <Bernzel> eclectichedgehog , okey :/ Im doing a reboot, brb
[10:28] <Wbill> anyone anyone???
[10:28] <k1l> baja: since you dont know what you did we need to find out what is broken on your system. so see if the guest account or another user account works
[10:29] <baja> yes there is a guest session account
[10:29] <Bernzel_> electichedgehog , reboot didn't help
[10:30] <k1l> baja: does that guest account have the same issues? come on, i dont want to ask you every thing 10 times.
[10:34] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel_, i would wipe steam install and start again
[10:34] <Bernzel_> eclectichedgehog , I've done that 4 times already. :(
[10:34] <eclectichedgehog> dpkg --purge steam
[10:35] <Bernzel_> eclectichedgehog , requested operation requires superuser privilege
[10:35] <eclectichedgehog> yes
[10:35] <Bernzel_> How to get past that?
[10:35] <eclectichedgehog> sudo dpkg --purge steam
[10:35] <Bernzel_> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove steam which isn't installed
[10:36] <Bernzel_> :s
[10:36] <eclectichedgehog> okay so its not actually installed
[10:36] <Bernzel_> seems strange
[10:38] <Bernzel_> eclectighedgehog, I took a look on Software Center, and the only Steam I can install is the launcher? Entering the main Steam application says "Not Found" There isn't a software package called steam in your current software sources"
[10:38] <luc4> Hello! I’m trying to boot a USB live in EFI mode but it seems Windows 8 is always started. I can instead boot live USB from legacy mode. Any idea how to boot the live USB from EFI?
[10:39] <luc4> I already tried this setup: http://askubuntu.com/questions/374931/install-ubuntu-in-uefi-mode-unable-to-boot-from-usb.
[10:39] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel_, dont you have to add "canonical partners" to the list of repositories in the software list?
[10:40] <Bernzel_> eclectichedgehog , tried and nothing was found searching for Steam
[10:42] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel_, do you have canonical partners repo enabled?
[10:43] <Bernzel_> eclectichedgehog , if that means clicking canocical partners when pressing All Software, then yes
[10:43] <Steven_M> Hi all, I tried to add a ppa and I got the following error: https://dpaste.de/BUJF/raw Suggestions?
[10:44] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel_, so it already enabled and you have done an "sudo apt get update"
[10:44] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel_, so it already enabled and you have done an "sudo apt-get update"
[10:45] <Bernzel_> if its enabled or not Im not sure. But I've done "sudo apt-get update" many times now
[10:46] <eclectichedgehog> then it should be a matter of "sudo apt-get install steam" assuming the canonical partner repo is active
[10:47] <Bernzel_> Yes. I'ts installing
[10:47] <Steven_M> false alarm, there was a typo, sorry!
[10:48] <korax> Are there backdoors in Ubuntu?
[10:48] <OerHeks> korax, the only backdoor is the user
[10:48] <Bernzel_> Thank you electichedgehog! Finally it works! Cheers!
[10:48] <eclectichedgehog> korax yes, side doors and front doors but no windows...
[10:49] <eclectichedgehog> Bernzel_, haha yes
[10:50] <Wbill> anyone know howto make a live usb stick with ubuntu 15.? persistent from boot to next boot?
[10:50] <luc4> Any EFI expert around?
[10:50] <baja> k1l
[10:51] <OerHeks> wbill live usb can have a partition to save things, not installed programs.
[10:51] <baja> guest has all icons i just confirmed
[10:53] <baja> k1l
[10:53] <Wbill> como save things? what about the updates like installing flash and new programs do i make a separate partition on the usb drive or what is the comand for the partition when using or procedure using unetbootin?
[10:54] <k1l> baja: xfce4-panel --quit ; pkill xfconfd ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml ; xfce4-panel;
[10:54] <OerHeks> Wbill, no, then you need to install ubuntu completely to that usb device.
[10:54] <k1l> baja: then relogin
[10:54] <baja> ok let me try
[10:54] <OerHeks> ( like a regular install)
[10:54] <OerHeks> !usb
[10:57] <eclectichedgehog> baja, if its xfce then right click taskbar, choose panel the panel preferences then items tab
[10:57] <eclectichedgehog> baja, that will show the list of icons you have, you can add or delete from there if needed
[11:00] <baja> eclectic hedgehog that isnt helpful
[11:00] <baja> eclectichedgehog that isnt helpful
[11:00] <baja> let me try k1l
[11:00] <baja> method
[11:00] <Wbill> thanks ubotto
[11:00] <eclectichedgehog> baja i use xfce all the time
[11:03] <surgy> hello im running ubuntu gnome 14.04 kernal 3.19 and im running multiple monitors. i go to "displays" in "system settings" and i rearange my displays so that one is on the left. when i restart my computer the display that i set to be the left monitor is now the right and it resets on every boot
[11:03] <eclectichedgehog> surgy, welcome to linux...
[11:04] <surgy> eclectichedgehog, again*
[11:04] <eclectichedgehog> :)
[11:04] <surgy> eclectichedgehog, can you help me?
[11:06] <eclectichedgehog> i think i use to use arandr and run the settings it gave at login from memory
[11:07] <eclectichedgehog> not sure about how gnome does it but it probably the same or similar
[11:10] <surgy> i think i found an article :)
[11:10] <surgy> eclectichedgehog, http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/309-ubuntu-dual-display-monitor-position-lost
[11:10] <alu_> hi
[11:10] <surgy> eclectichedgehog, thanks :)
[11:10] <eclectichedgehog> np
[11:10] <medicijnman> i have a samsung g3 station 2tb and i have had some problems with mounting the drive in the past, but today it just wont mount. this is quite of a problem as i have most of my backup files on that drive. dmesg does not show any useful information either. does anyone know what is best practise to solve this mounting problem?
[11:11] <alu_> 初来匝道，多多指教
[11:11] <bazhang> !cn
[11:11] <TJ-> medicijnman: Maybe the connection/interface itself? How does it connect to the PC (USB, eSATA, etc.) ?
[11:12] <Wbill> 👀
[11:12] <medicijnman> TJ-: it uses usb2 to connect to the pc. the firmware has been a problem for multiple owners of this drive (there are multiple threads on the web regarding this drive). unfortunately those threads did not provide a solution that worked for me.
[11:12] <erkan^> medicijnman is a dutch word, TJ- ?
[11:13] <erkan^> !nl
[11:13] <mouna> hi, I have an issue in order to launch a script at start
[11:13] <Aceavanger1> Sup, whats everyone up to?
[11:14] <TJ-> medicijnman: First thing... ensure the USB cable is firmly connected; try it in different ports; try a different cable; try it on another PC.  Secondly, the USB<>SATA interfaces in some of these external caddies can literally fry themselves dead. I've seen and had several die over the years.
[11:15] <mouna> hi if anyone want to help me, the script wok in console but doesn't start at login.
[11:16] <baja> k1l: nothing happened :(
[11:16] <medicijnman> TJ-: i tried connecting to another machine but then it does not even spin up the drive. the drive firmware is, according to multiple threads i read, designed that the drive only spins up when it is connect with both an ac adapter and a usb cable into a pc. unfortunately it only seems to work 'decent' on mac os x 10.6.8 but i want to use this drive for linux only
[11:16] <k1l> baja: "nothing happend" is not enough details
[11:16] <TJ-> medicijnman: what is the make/model ?
[11:17] <baja> i meant the icons dint come back
[11:17] <k1l> did you get some errors or outputs?
[11:17] <baja> its same as before
[11:17] <baja> none
[11:17] <TJ-> medicijnman: Most external drives need external power because the maximum theoretical power from a USB2 port is 05.A .. and in practice often a lot less
[11:17] <k1l> how did you run that commands?
[11:17] <TJ-> medicijnman: 0.5A, even!
[11:18] <baja> each independently
[11:18] <medicijnman> TJ-: i plugged in external power, i'm looking up the make/model specs
[11:18] <baja> was there specific way?
[11:18] <medicijnman> TJ-: the external power needs to be plugged in or else it doesn't work (i think this is obvious)
[11:19] <baja> the panel dissapeared and then reappeared
[11:19] <k1l> baja: did you run that as root again?
[11:20] <baja> what exactly?
[11:20] <baja> yes
[11:20] <baja> i did
[11:20] <k1l> baja: why?
[11:20] <TJ-> medicijnman: Yes... I have a couple of external cabinets here... they have dual eSATA/USB2 interfaces... I caught myself out and though they had both failed recently... I'd connected the eSATA cable the wrong way around (one end has a short plug, the other long) !
[11:20] <k1l> baja: stop doing bad stuff!
[11:20] <baja> ok
[11:20] <k1l> baja: where did i say "run it as root"?
[11:21] <k1l> baja: open a terminal (not as root!!!!111111111111111111) then copy that whole line in it and press enter: xfce4-panel --quit ; pkill xfconfd ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml ; xfce4-panel;
[11:21] <k1l> baja: your "i run stuff as root" idiotic stuff is making it just difficult to help you. stop that!
[11:22] <mouna> Can anyone help me to launch a script at login automaticly?
[11:22] <medicijnman> TJ-: the manual says it is a g3 station series, station 3.0 2TB eHDD PN:HX-DUO20EC
[11:22] <k1l> mouna: how did you try it before and what was the error/issue?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:23] <mouna> k1l: the script work in console. I had it in the automatic start windows
[11:23] <mouna> k1l: but it doesn't seems to work
[11:24] <k1l> mouna: did you include fullpaths in the script?
[11:24] <mouna> k1l: I had the script content in a pad: https://hebdo.framapad.org/p/mouna
[11:24] <baja> ok k1l relax how do i change from root
[11:25] <k1l> baja: m(
[11:25] <cfhowlett> baja, "exit"
[11:25] <k1l> baja: just open a new terminal. it will be defaulted to the user you use
[11:26] <TJ-> medicijnman: one of these? http://www.samsung.com/us/business/oem-solutions/pdfs/2010_Hard_cata_ver_2_100210_preview_2.pdf
[11:26] <baja> i use root
[11:26] <bazhang> baja, use sudo
[11:26] <k1l> baja: you use root as desktop user?
[11:27] <medicijnman> TJ-: nope, here is a vid where some guy disassembles the weird drive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0yfEIsPzc
[11:27] <baja> yes k1l
[11:27] <medicijnman> TJ-: the P/N HX numbers match with my drive, so i guess they are the exact same
[11:27] <baja> ive always
[11:27] <k1l> baja: than i am out. that is just a wrong way to use ubuntu.
[11:28] <mouna> k1l: I don't understand the question
[11:28] <cfhowlett> baja, not sure if trolling  .... but definitely not the way to do ubuntu.
[11:28] <baja> ok thanks for your time
[11:28] <OerHeks> medicijnman, what does " sudo fdisk -l " give as partitiontype? exfat maybe?
[11:28] <baja> k1l
[11:28] <TJ-> medicijnman: Can't view youtube here
[11:28] <bazhang> he's done baja no need to highlight
[11:28] <medicijnman> OerHeks: it does not list the drive because it doesn't mount
[11:28] <baja> ok cfhowlett im still learning any post which you can link
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !root | baja this
[11:29] <bazhang> !sudo | baja
[11:29] <medicijnman> TJ-: ah okay, i'll post a picture link then
[11:29] <OerHeks> medicijnman, not mounted, oke, but not even show with fdisk ?
[11:29] <bazhang> read the links fully baja
[11:29] <baja> ok
[11:29] <bazhang> !manual | baja
[11:29] <bazhang> !rute | baja and this all of them
[11:29] <medicijnman> TJ-: this is the drive except mine is 2TB and black: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9NWnnnVHdYk/TKR_x7KobAI/AAAAAAAAAMg/nnY50eXQeuk/s1600/IMG_1728.JPG
[11:30] <mouna> I guess it would be rude to ask the same question again...
[11:30] <medicijnman> OerHeks: i don't think so, only /dev/sda1 is shown which is the internal hdd
[11:30] <TJ-> medicijnman: OK, that's the 'look' of the ones I'm seeing, and the part numbers match
[11:31] <AppAraat> hello, I am interested in running the latest git master of the KDE PPA to test out Kwin (this one specifically - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-daily). Would you recommend to do this on 15.04 or 15.10 ?
[11:32] <medicijnman> TJ-: i'm going to consider to open the drive and look if i can plug this into a desktop computer if this drive keeps refusing to mount, but first i would like to be sure there is no way to reliably mount the drive because i don't want to fiddle around in this ehdd
[11:32] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, 15.10?  beta
[11:32] <TJ-> medicijnman: Do you have any electronics diagnostic equipment, or know someone who does? My first step would be to verify the power adapter is putting out the correct voltage and can provide the current the device requires. Next, I'd ensure that the power socket on the device hasn't had its joints fractured or gone dry-joint (I often reflow fresh solder on) because physical insert/remove stresses can break them over time.
[11:33] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: yeah it's mostly for experimentation purposes. As I understand it, git master of KDE isn't all too stable as well.
[11:33] <OerHeks> medicijnman, is this machine connected to usb2? try to find an USB2 port
[11:33] <TJ-> medicijnman: If you have another power adapter that outputs the same voltage and at least as much current, and has the same plug, you could try swapping them
[11:33] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, so an unstable on top of an unreleased beta will tell you ... what?
[11:33] <OerHeks> *connected to USB3 *
[11:34] <TJ-> medicijnman: The fact it fails on different PCs tells us its a problem with the device, and the most obvious is lack of power
[11:34] <medicijnman> TJ-: i lack knowledge to back my intuition, but i think it is solely a software problem. up till yesterday it mounted automagically. the leds light up and the drive spins up when i connect it so there is at least power flowing into the device.
[11:35] <TJ-> medicijnman: I doubt the disk drive itself is bad; if that were so the USB interface and the internal SATA controller wouls show up in Linux. The fact they don't tells us its either a power issue, or a USB connection issue
[11:35] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: I'm not too sure. I want the PPA packages to be most compatible with the distro packages, also to avoid breakages in that way and if possible contribute bugreports. Are you saying that using the beta is a bad idea in that regard?
[11:36] <TJ-> medicijnman: If the device no longer shows up when connected, then the USB interface of the device isn't working for some reasons
[11:36] <TJ-> medicijnman: most common cause is physical stress on the connectors
[11:36] <anonymous_> hi
[11:37] <TJ-> medicijnman: if you have a desktop PC, take the SATA drive out of the G3 enclosure and connect it directly into the PC and I'd bet it works fine
[11:37] <AppAraat> not too sure if this is in any way related, but there appear to be USB drives which can only be formatted as specific filesystems.
[11:37] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, I would think a released, fully supported OS would be more informative and useful for your stated purpose.  Others may disagree...
[11:37] <medicijnman> TJ-: then i suspect it is the usb interface that is failing, but don't know for sure
[11:38] <AEL-H> Could someone tell me why on some users when I SSH in I can type and press tab to autocomplete, however on other users I cannot?
[11:38] <AEL-H> ubuntu server 14.04
[11:38] <TJ-> medicijnman: the easiest way to find out is to swap the drive out to another SATA controller, which remove the USB interface from the circuit
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !server | AEL-H
[11:38] <ioria> medicijnman, dmesg | tail should tell you something
[11:38] <baja> im sorry guys trully i am
[11:39] <medicijnman> ioria: i can't seem to find anything regarding usb messages except for my external mouse
[11:39] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: that makes sense. I'll download 15.04 then.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> baja, go forth and !root/sin no more.
[11:39] <TJ-> ioria: the USB isn't showing up, that's the problem
[11:39] <ioria> medicijnman, unplug replug and check
[11:39] <medicijnman> TJ-: looking at the disassembly video i need to remove the a IC in order to plug it into a (s)ata controller
[11:39] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, best of luck to you!  thanks for the KDE support.
[11:39] <medicijnman> ioria: okay, i'll try
[11:39] <ioria> oh....
[11:40] <ioria> medicijnman, the leds on it are working ?
[11:40] <gianny> !list
[11:40] <TJ-> medicijnman: Not at all, the SATA drive inside the enclosure will be connected with a standard SATA connector (power+SATA)
[11:40] <medicijnman> ioria: wow, ok. after about 20 attempts to replug the drive it now does mount
[11:40] <TJ-> medicijnman: That tells us you've got a physical connector issue then
[11:41] <ioria> medicijnman, you could try a double usb cable
[11:41] <medicijnman> ioria: it is connected with usb3.0 rather than usb2.0. usb2 is the only one that worked for me until now
[11:42] <TJ-> medicijnman: Does the device disappear if you wiggle the enclosure end of the USB cable?
[11:42] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: and thanks for your recommendation. I'm mainly planning on using Kwin as a standalone WM and optionally have its tiling support (main function I'm interested in are the Scale and Expo functionality of Cinnamon). Furthermore I'll use Krunner and I'm still thinking on which systray I'll choose, but I think it's going to be one of KDE ones.
[11:42] <medicijnman> TJ-: hmmm that is quite troublesome. i better should backup my data to another drive and see if i works with (s)ata.
[11:42] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Are you still here ?
[11:43] <TJ-> medicijnman: if not, I'd try reconnecting to the PC's USB2 port and wiggling the PC end around gently and seeing if that causes it to show up. Somewhere you've got a bad physical connection
[11:43] <ioria> medicijnman, i have no usb3 ports .... my issue ,once, was that the thing wanted a double usb cable
[11:43] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, might want to check in with #kubuntu and the kubuntu forums.  Could be you can contribute or glean insight from previous works.  also #kde  is a thing.
[11:43] <medicijnman> TJ-: usb flash drives always mount correctly on my machine, but doesn't that rule out the physical connector problem?
[11:44] <medicijnman> TJ-: the same goes for other ehdds on both my machines
[11:44] <vasgorad> hello everyone
[11:44] <TJ-> medicijnman: If the wiggling doesn't change anything, then suspect the power... USB3 can provide more amps per port... so if the external power adapter is failing the USB3 might just supply the missing current the USB2 cannot
[11:44] <medicijnman> TJ-: that is, only this drive has mounting problems.
[11:44] <TJ-> medicijnman: It ought to yes. This kind of issue requires elimination of possibilities until only one remains
[11:45] <TJ-> medicijnman: the fact it has the same problem on another PC strongly suggests its the G3/cable/power that is the problem
[11:45] <vasgorad> hello, is normal to have problems with autentication in thunderbirdo, Xubuntu?
[11:46] <medicijnman> TJ-: i disconnected the drive and plugged it into usb2 again and now it also mounts correctly
[11:46] <TJ-> medicijnman: I have found reports online that the G3's USB2 data port does break away from the PCB
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> vasgorad  login problems are never normal
[11:47] <ioria> medicijnman, dos it works , now ?
[11:47] <medicijnman> TJ-: sorry i don't understand exactly what you're trying to say
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> problem != normal
[11:47] <ioria> *e
[11:47] <cfhowlett> vasgorad, nope.  double check your credentials
[11:47] <TJ-> medicijnman: If the issue is physical, then random changes in behaviour are to be expected, the device will come and go depending no how the connectors are moved/pressured.
[11:47] <vasgorad> I tried and tried
[11:47] <medicijnman> ioria: it works as in mounting the drive, but this is too unreliable for me. sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't
[11:48] <vasgorad> I am tried *
[11:48] <alu_> why
[11:48] <ioria> medicijnman, sorry to hear that
[11:48] <cfhowlett> vasgorad, login to your accounts via browser.  copy those settings to your tbird accounts.
[11:48] <TJ-> medicijnman: Trying to say? - I've said it. 80% certainty there's a physical break in the G3 connectors that is causing intermittent behaviour
[11:48] <vasgorad> OK
[11:49] <TJ-> medicijnman: if you continue using it in this state it is liable to disconnect during vital data transfers, and cause corruption.
[11:49] <alu_> someone use drupal?
[11:49] <medicijnman> TJ-: sorry i thought i misunderstood something
[11:49] <Synt4x`> my software center wont open all of a sudden and none of my apt-get stuff will work, any ideas?
[11:50] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: cool, will do. Thanks once again :)
[11:50] <medicijnman> TJ-: wow that is a serious problem, i guess i need to backup the data right now before it stops working again.
[11:50] <luc4> Hello! How do I choose the device for bootloader installation when installing Ubuntu in dual boot with windows 8 in efi mode?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> alu_, #drupal
[11:50] <alu_> yes
[11:50] <ioria> medicijnman, consider also another 3.5 case maybe
[11:50] <TJ-> medicijnman: If it were me I'd not access the drive until it is fixed... what happens if it is transferring data and the connector fails in the midst?
[11:51] <alu_> thanks
[11:51] <medicijnman> TJ-: mounting the drive as readonly and copying data should be harmless for the destination drive right?
[11:51] <Dyjoe> what program can I use to make a bootable usb drive ?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !usb | Dyjoe
[11:51] <k1l> Dyjoe: what OS are you on and what is on that iso?
[11:52] <vasgorad> thunderbird sais that password or user name is incorrect
[11:52] <vasgorad> :(
[11:52] <Dyjoe> I'm on ubuntu atm
[11:52] <medicijnman> ioria: i have multiple other usb ehdds but i (wrongly) decided to temporary store some files on that drive. because it is unreliable i don't think i will use that drive anymore
[11:52] <TJ-> Dyjoe: did acpi_osi="Windows 2012" help?
[11:52] <k1l> Dyjoe: then use startup disk creator
[11:53] <Synt4x`> posted above, Software Center won't open and sudo apt-get commands all fail (with a header issue), has anybody seen this before or have any ideas?
[11:53] <TJ-> medicijnman: Unfortunately, "read-only" isn't. The file system metadata can still be written to with updated access times
[11:53] <Dyjoe> TJ-: No,still the same the settings have return to what they were previously , but I think I've observed an error about acpi when i booted up
[11:53] <k1l> Dyjoe: what is on that .iso? because windows doesnt work that way
[11:54] <Dyjoe> kil:Windows .I need it so I can try to switch my FN commands back to try to remove the hard block from the wireless
[11:54] <Dyjoe> can't seem to find an alternative
[11:54] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I read the PCs DSDT in detail after you left last night; "Windows 2012" is definitely the option. I found the code that controls the RF kill function and it only does everything when the "Windows 2012" setting is there
[11:54] <medicijnman> TJ-: so there is no safe way to mount it in such a way the file system only is allowed to read data from the drive?
[11:54] <k1l> Dyjoe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[11:54] <sloantothebone> I need help, uGet isnt working right: http://ugetdm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=907&p=2090#p2090
[11:55] <dfcnvt> In order to get a working and uninterrupted conditions in playing a high quality video -- then do I have everything's ready? Video Card: GeForce GTX 550 Ti  OS: ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:56] <cfhowlett> dfcnvt, ubuntu-restricted-extras?  nvidia drivers?
[11:56] <Dyjoe> kil:ty
[11:56] <bazhang> dfcnvt, high quality eg blray or what
[11:56] <TJ-> medicijnman: I *think* if you use the mount option noatime and another you can mostly prevent it, although I think the file-system superblock still gets updated with the last mount time
[11:56] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I'll install winusb and then i'll reboot ant try to change the acpi settings again
[11:57] <ioria> medicijnman, how much data are we speaking ?
[11:57] <TJ-> Dyjoe: OK... good luck, you seem to need it. HP need shooting for such a terrible design, and lack kof support
[11:57] <medicijnman> 150 gigs (capacity is 2TB)
[11:57] <ioria> medicijnman, oh....
[11:57] <dfcnvt> cfhowlett: Now apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:57] <TJ-> medicijnman: you can buy another external enclosure for less than €10 you know... just move the drive to it
[11:58] <medicijnman> ioria: i know it's not much :p but i don't want to lose that data ;)
[11:58] <dfcnvt> bazhang: it's bluray's file
[11:58] <bazhang> dfcnvt, so a blu-ray rip?
[11:58] <dfcnvt> bazhang: Yea, I believe so.
[11:58] <medicijnman> TJ-: i'm already copying the data to another ehdd ;) thanks for your help
[11:58] <medicijnman> ioria: thanks for your help
[11:58] <TJ-> medicijnman: if you get another, get one with USB3, as well.... it'll be fast :)
[11:59] <bazhang> dfcnvt, mplayer should have no probs with that
[11:59] <Synt4x`> I get this error
[11:59] <Synt4x`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124145/
[11:59] <Dyjoe> TJ-: I find it funny sometimes that my 6 year old phone which I've dropped and modified never has connection problems but my laptop which is significantly more expensive and newer does
[11:59] <bazhang> !info smplayer
[11:59] <bazhang> dfcnvt, ^
[11:59] <TJ-> Dyjoe: the pain of complexity
[11:59] <ioria> medicijnman, ok... what will you do ?
[11:59] <medicijnman> TJ-: yeah usb3 is absolutely required if i buy a new one
[12:00] <medicijnman> ioria: i rsync (i'm lazy :p) all the files to another drive and then stop using the unreliable drive
[12:00] <TJ-> Dyjoe: also, the bain of the Windows monopoly. If the market for operating system weren't so 1-sided then the hardware makers would fully support all OSes with good drivers
[12:00] <ioria> medicijnman, you cat try fo format it ntfs in win, and test it
[12:00] <ioria> *can
[12:01] <medicijnman> ioria: but that doesn't help me from the connector problems, and i just got rid of all my windows machines. i don't want to go back to that horrible environment :p
[12:01] <Dyjoe> TJ-:well ironically enough my compaq did initially come with linux installed from the manufacturer
[12:01] <ioria> medicijnman, ok ... ^_^
[12:04] <dfcnvt> It's able to play but sometime I get freezed or turned into green and pause for a few seconds then play continually.
[12:05] <princef> hey. is there any way to parse dynamic element that create by Js in python. e.g with urllib or ... ?
[12:05] <baja> ubottu: thanksfully i have realized that im not using terminal as root. i am using as baja
[12:09] <baja> bazhang: thanksfully i have realized that im not using terminal as root. i am using as baja
[12:15] <Mattias> I got ubuntu 15 on a new VPS with a very basic installation, running service *** restart or anything with the service command gives me no messages, but services does start/stop/restart etc. Which package am I missing to show these messages?
[12:16] <OerHeks> Mattias, i guess this is normal, no message, no OK.
[12:16] <Dyjoe> TJ-: Nope,it's the same thing I've even done rfkill list . Maybe I haven't inserted it correctly? I've pressed e went to the linux line and added it at the end (linux .... acpi_osi="Windows 2012") ?
[12:16] <OerHeks> ( only errors, if there are erros)
[12:16] <k1l> Mattias: since 15.04 ubuntu uses systemd. but better ask your hoster what systemimage that is and what they use there
[12:16] <Mattias> OerHeks: It's not normal, every other ubuntu I've been on has shown messages that stopping service was ok etc
[12:17] <Mattias> k1l: Yeah, I guess. Just strange they left out such a useful thing.
[12:17] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Yes... and then booted that with pressing F10 or Ctrl+X ?
[12:18] <Dyjoe> TJ-: yes , nothing changed
[12:18] <OerHeks> Mattias, not always > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124266/
[12:18] <TJ-> Dyjoe: quick way to find out which was used at boot is the search the kernel log: "grep osi /var/log/dmesg" should do it ... you should see 3 or more lines with that
[12:19] <TJ-> Dyjoe: you'll see 2 lines that report the kernel command line, and another which is what you want showing that setting is being activated
[12:19] <Mattias> OerHeks: Yes, not always, but that doesn't make it normal. It makes it a rare thing most likely due to a missing package.
[12:19] <OerHeks> Mattias, what service exactly ? i guess it is normal
[12:20] <Mattias> nginx, php5-fpm, munin-node, any service you can think of
[12:20] <OerHeks> "any service you can think of" is not true, i just showed.
[12:21] <OerHeks> i hanve no nginx running, so i cannot compare
[12:21] <OerHeks> c/have
[12:22] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124295/
[12:22] <Mattias> OerHeks: From my perspective on this specific vps, it is true.
[12:22] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I'm just reading the kernel documentation on the acpi_osi setting... there is another variation you sohuld try using a "!" to disable every other OSI option: use "apci_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2012"   "
[12:23] <ioria> Mattias, you can try with sudo systemctl status " something"
[12:23] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Aha! OK, a mistake there. Don't include the double quotes at the start. I write double-quotes in IRC to surround the things I want you to use. Don't include my surrounding double-quotes in what you type
[12:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: you have  vt.handoff=7 "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"    it should be vt.handoff=7 acpi_osi=Windows 2012"
[12:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Sorry, typo again!      it should be: acpi_osi="Windows 2012"
[12:24] <TJ-> Dyjoe: however, next time try: acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2012"
[12:25] <Mattias> ioria: That gives me output as well as showing the restarts/stops/starts I've done for the specific service
[12:26] <Dyjoe> TJ-:rebooting to try the ! one
[12:26] <TJ-> Dyjoe: *fingers crossed
[12:26] <Mattias> ioria: or is the service package  deprecated and I should use systemctl to start/stop services?
[12:27] <Mattias> oh, systemctl restart nginx gave no output either
[12:27] <OerHeks> Mattias, you still can use both, on 15.04
[12:27] <ioria> Mattias, do you have mysql ?
[12:28] <Mattias> ioria: Yes
[12:28] <ioria> Mattias, sudo systemctl status mysql
[12:28] <Mattias> ioria: is it just that, restart/start/stop/reload commands don't give output in ubuntu 15 anymore?
[12:29] <Mattias> status does give me output
[12:29] <ioria> Mattias, sudo service mysql status
[12:29] <Mattias> yeah, gives me the same output as systemctl status
[12:30] <ioria> Mattias, t gives or not ?
[12:30] <ioria> *i
[12:30] <ioria> Mattias, and the problem is ?
[12:31] <Mattias> ioria: I've always had messages that shows if the restarting went ok or not
[12:31] <ioria> Mattias, can you post the output of  sudo systemctl status mysql  ?
[12:32] <TJ-> Mattias: that does seem to be a regression, if restart/start/stop/reload are no longer showing the stopped...started messages
[12:32] <Dyjoe> TJ-: the quotes appear by themselves apparently acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" and this time i double checked it was only the windows 2012 in quotes
[12:32] <Mattias> TJ-: Do you get messages on version 15?
[12:32] <TJ-> Mattias: I don't use it
[12:32] <michal_> Hello
[12:33] <TJ-> Dyjoe: appear by themselves? you mean what you see in the dmesg log is different to what you typed in the boot loader when you edited it?
[12:33] <TJ-> Dyjoe: can you show me "cat /proc/cmdline" please?
[12:35] <TJ-> Dyjoe: I don't think the moving quotes matters anyhow, I'm just surprised the output is actually munged from what the user types
[12:35] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124356/
[12:36] <Mattias> ioria: http://pastebin.com/5Sx4cvbT
[12:37] <TJ-> Dyjoe: "grep -i osi /var/log/dmesg" should tell you if the osi setting has been acted on - we want a line other than those reporting the kernel command line that includes the "Windows 2012" phrase
[12:37] <ioria> Mattias, seems ok ....
[12:37] <Mattias> ioria: see how empty that restart command is? and on ubuntu 12-14 it is not
[12:37] <ioria> Mattias, let me boot my vivid ...
[12:38] <TJ-> Mattias: that looks OK to me; it shows the stop and start.
[12:38] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124378/
[12:38] <Mattias> TJ-: The bottom shows ubuntu 12-14, the top part shows ubuntu 15
[12:39] <Mattias> TJ-: it does not show stop start there, only under status in ubuntu 15
[12:39] <TJ-> Mattias: Ahhh, OK, sorry, didn't read it properly!
[12:39] <TJ-> Dyjoe: "ACPI: Added _OSI(Windows 2012)" that shows the setting was added
[12:40] <TJ-> Dyjoe: however, this may be the cause of the problem: "Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored"
[12:40] <alessandro_> hi
[12:41] <ioria> Mattias, right ... no output ... i think is ok ...
[12:42] <Mattias> Or a new bug? :)
[12:42] <ioria> Mattias, i don't think so....
[12:42] <TJ-> ioria: Mattias what is on the end of 'service' "which service && readlink -e $(which service)"
[12:43] <ioria> TJ- mysql
[12:43] <TJ-> ioria: I very much doubt it!
[12:43] <ioria> TJ-  i'm using systemctl
[12:43] <Mattias> TJ-: Got /usr/sbin/service 2x on two separate lines
[12:44] <TJ-> Mattias: Good :) How about "file $(which service)"
[12:44] <alessandro__> hi
[12:44] <ioria> TJ-  sudo service mysql status gives Usage: /etc7init. ... etc etc
[12:44] <Mattias> /usr/sbin/service: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
[12:45] <TJ-> Mattias: Same as 14.04 so far. Now what is in it? Can you "pastebinit /usr/sbin/service" ?
[12:45] <ioria> TJ-  sorry, misunderstood  you :P
[12:46] <TJ-> ioria: I gathered :P
[12:46] <Mattias> TJ-: It uses systemctl basically, I'll paste it
[12:46] <TJ-> Mattias: I suspect the old upstart calls for start/stop/reload/restart may have been replaced with systemd calls
[12:47] <Mattias> TJ-: yeah, no need to paste then ;) but that's basically what it does
[12:47] <Mattias> And systemctl returns no output ?
[12:47] <OerHeks> Mattias, maybe a good idea to ask for a option for status after any systemd command.
[12:47] <TJ-> Mattias: and possibly systemd doesn't write anything to console by default
[12:48] <TJ-> Dyjoe: Could you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ... I want to compare it with the dmesg we collected last night without the 2012 setting
[12:50] <Dyjoe> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124453/ btw is there an alternative to unebootin? I can't seem to make it to make ntfs usbs
[12:51] <TJ-> Dyjoe: why do you want NTFS?
[12:51] <Dyjoe> from what I've read that's what my usb stick needs to be in order for me to inst win 7
[12:52] <TJ-> Dyjoe: if you have a Windows PXE ISO just write it to the USB... the internal layout of the ISO contains the file-system. A USB writer shouldn't get involved in manipulating the file system
[12:53] <LonelyDanbo> Can someone give me a hint on how I can find the info on how to change my mouse's LED colors? I went searching for like [mouse hacking ubuntu] or something and found info on identifying the vendor and product #s, and stuff about button mapping, but nothing about LEDs.
[12:53] <TJ-> Dyjoe: if you're trying to make the USB a bootable persistent Windows install, then you'd have to consult some hybrid Windows PXE guides for that
[12:53] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, changing mouse led colours?? never heard of that. what mouse is this?
[12:54] <LonelyDanbo> It's a CMStorm {Cooler Master} Recon. It can change it's colors on Windows, but the software for that doesn't work in Wine.
[12:54] <TJ-> Why would a mouse have changeable LED colours - sounds worse than go-faster stripes on a car!
[12:54] <LonelyDanbo> Sorry, was meant to reply to OerHeks
[12:54] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: you'd need to ask Cooler Master for Linux drivers, or tech specs for the interface
[12:55] <LonelyDanbo> Cooler Master doesn't have Linux drivers. I need to hack it.
[12:55] <m0dul8r> What hardware vendors sell computer with Ubuntu pre-installed?
[12:55] <LonelyDanbo> I don't know how their software can change the colors in Windows but not Wine.
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  this is no hacking space or channel
[12:56] <LonelyDanbo> I just need to find info on how to read data from the mouse. So far all I've found is very specific about reading buttons.
[12:56] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: because it requires a proprietary driver. Userspace needs the driver to communicate with the GPIOs that control the LEDs, presumably
[12:57] <LonelyDanbo> I don't know what half of that means. Are you saying the signal sent over USB to the mouse is more complicated than normal?
[12:57] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: for clues look at the Windows driver .inf file for the mouse; it'll probably contain clues about a separate driver file for the mouse LEDs, since the mouse actions themselves will likely be regular USB HID
[12:58] <caron> LonelyDanbo, it's because Wine depends on native drivers to control things like the mouse (not windows drivers). It's a better question for the #winehq channel.
[12:58] <OerHeks> a quick search gives me no clue for a linuxdriver
[12:58] <LonelyDanbo> windows driver .inf file. I'll see if their software has such a thing.
[12:59] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: mice are human interface devices (HIDs). USB has a standard protocol for them, so no special driver is usually required (all OSes have one the supports USb-HID). LEDs are not HID, therefore they'll need a unique endpoint on the USB device, and likely a unique driver to talk to the endpoint
[12:59] <LonelyDanbo> yes but why would the software designed to communicate with the mouse under Windows not be able to do so under Wine?
[12:59] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: a windows driver .inf file tells Windows how to install and configure drivers, all driver packages have one
[12:59] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: I already told you
[13:00] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: the user interface *requires* a special driver that knows how to talk to the LED controller in the mouse
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  because wine is not the same as windows
[13:00] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: drivers are for the OS. Wine cannot/does not do drivers, only userspace
[13:03] <LonelyDanbo> great. there's nothing but an .exe
[13:03] <LonelyDanbo> maybe the exe will install an .inf... :|
[13:04] <Bernzel> Im doing some tutorial on commandline. Im doing "less" on some config files to read them, but how do I exit the file when in less-mode?
[13:04] <zykotick9> Bernzel: q
[13:05] <Bernzel> Thank you, user with too complex nick to type!
[13:05] <zykotick9> !tab | Bernzel
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  Cooler Master has its own support   http://community.coolermaster.com/
[13:07] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, totally no linux support yet.
[13:08] <LonelyDanbo> yeah. no surprise there. I think I stumbled on a thread about their mice in Linux when I got it a year and a half ago.
[13:08] <robert45> hi guys, any clue why I cant upgrade these packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12124580/
[13:09] <zykotick9> robert45: use "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:09] <OerHeks> !info maria-db
[13:10] <OerHeks> !info maria-db-client
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> it's a replacement for mysql, iirc
[13:10] <OerHeks> !info mariadb-client
[13:10] <OerHeks> old stuff, if that depends on mariadb 5
[13:12] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/mariadb
[13:13] <LonelyDanbo> I don't think the CMStorm Recon mouse software installed any .inf file. There's nothing that looks like it on the wine bottle/prefix. just... mono and gecko stuff.
[13:13] <robert45> zykotick9 you rock, thanks
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  looks like you're out of luck, then
[13:14] <LonelyDanbo> This is not impossible. it's just inconvenient and stupid.
[13:14] <Bluewolf> What site can I upload screen shots to, in order to re-paste here for help?
[13:14] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, imgur.com
[13:15] <LonelyDanbo> The data sent between the software and the USB device has to be simple. It's not like they would encode it.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  contact Cooler Master and demand linux support
[13:15] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, set out a question on askubuntu, to reverse engineer the mouse/driver
[13:16] <caron> LonelyDanbo, and ask in #winehq for further advice.
[13:16] <LonelyDanbo> Can't I just monitor all data sent to a specific USB device? hm. or at least intended USB device, since the only thing that transmits the data is that stupid Windows program.
[13:16] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Huh, not the one I use before. And they don't have any issue with my random screenshot of LibreOffice?
[13:16] <Bluewolf> :D
[13:19] <vasgorad> hello, I have a problem, I am learning Python and when a write print 'Hello world' , the ' is a syntax error
[13:19] <vasgorad> in Python 3.4.0 Shell
[13:19] <TJ-> vasgorad: python 3? try print('Hello world')
[13:19] <TJ-> vasgorad: in 3.x print() is a function not a statement
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> vasgorad  there's also #learnpython
[13:20] <vasgorad> thank you so much
[13:20] <Pici> vasgorad: and #python
[13:20] <van7hu> hello
[13:20] <Pici> MonkeyDust: #learnpython isn't really a thing.
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Pici  it says, 100 people are present
[13:22] <Pici> MonkeyDust: not on freenode
[13:22] <vasgorad> thnx
[13:22] <Pici> MonkeyDust: I guess you mean ##learnpython
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> Pici  yes, i mistyped
[13:23] <Bluewolf> Can anyone help with changing the colour of my window frame of LibreOffice, I'm gifted with faulty eyes and the bright screen irritates them, the dark mod of Gnome dose not seem to influence LibreOffice - I have manage to solve the page colour and its background as seen in this screenshot ( http://imgur.com/pgMXfyh )?
[13:31] <vasgorad> I am learning python in a web. In the web writes print ' hello world' but in python 3.4.0 the correct form is print ('hello world'). Why change the lenguage with the program?
[13:32] <vasgorad> I put this message in #learnpython but nobody talk with me haah
[13:33] <TJ-> vasgorad: see https://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html
[13:34] <vasgorad> thank you, I am a principiant and I thought that a programing lenguage never changes hahah
[13:35] <TJ-> vasgorad: It's Python... it does everything unexpected!
[13:36] <blib> In the latest version of ubuntu, what is the best way of writing a service? (systemd? upstart? ...?)
[13:37] <vasgorad> hahah thanks
[13:38] <Bluewolf> Can anyone help with changing the colour of my window frame of LibreOffice, I'm gifted with faulty eyes and the bright screen irritates them, the dark mod of Gnome dose not seem to influence LibreOffice - I have manage to solve the page colour and its background as seen in this screenshot ( http://imgur.com/pgMXfyh )?
[13:39] <blib> upstart or systemd?
[13:39] <TJ-> blib: systemd units
[13:40] <blib> TJ-: is there a good tutorial on how to write services using systemd for 15.04 somewhere?
[13:40] <xangua> Bluewolf: that's the default gnome theme, not the dark version
[13:40] <TJ-> blib: the systemd documentation itself
[13:41] <xangua> if a dark theme is what you want, you could search one at gnome-look.org Bluewolf
[13:43] <Bluewolf> xangua: Exactly, the dark version does not work on it. I want to get it like the dark version, the thing is that I don't want other themes because their will be something about them which bugs me. The Gnome default is perfect, I just need to change the colour of that window and I'm sold.
[13:43] <jeffreylevesque> what does `apt-get --assume-yes install` mean?
[13:43] <jeffreylevesque> what is `--assume-yes` flag?
[13:44] <Bluewolf> xangua: If it was like the text editor on the Dark version then that would be brilliant! :D
[13:46] <brane_> has anyone had to setup bonding to a force 10 switch?
[13:48] <dgbaley> Anyone know if nfsmount in the initrd on 14.04 is supposed to support nfs4?
[13:51] <TJ-> dgbaley: I'd suspect it depends if the nfs4 kernel module is included
[13:52] <dgbaley> TJ-: It is but I still just can't get v4 to work, and I don't see anything in the source for nfsmount that lets you force a version number.
[13:54] <TJ-> dgbaley: the init script for nfs is /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs
[13:55] <dgbaley> TJ-: yeah, but that uses a small c tool from klibc "nfsmount" to do the mounting
[13:55] <TJ-> dgbaley: I see  "nfsmount -o nolock ${roflag} ${NFSOPTS} ${NFSROOT} ${rootmnt} " which suggests ${NFSOPTS} is the only thing that could influence it, but there's no specific "-t type" there
[13:56] <TJ-> dgbaley: I've booted over nfs v4 so I know it is possible.
[13:58] <PCatinean> How does one give permissions to a user to do sudo nginx reload without entering the password?
[13:59] <Bluewolf> xangua: Any idea to change the colour of the window to the Dark version?
[13:59] <persa> hi, I have a command that I want to run in a script and this command asks for a password. how can I pass the password as a parameter to this command when I invoke it in the script?
[13:59] <dgbaley> TJ-: ah, that's good to know, 14.04?
[13:59] <TJ-> PCatinean: add an option to /etc/sudoers. See "man sudoers"
[13:59] <TJ-> dgbaley: for PXE/TFTP/NFS boots of releases back to 8.04 I think
[14:00] <dgbaley> Yeah but those weren't v4, I don't think even 10.04 supported v4 at all
[14:02] <PCatinean> add it there you say
[14:03] <wad> My Ubuntu won't update anymore. "apt-get upgrade" stalls on one line forever: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-35-generic
[14:03] <wad> Anybody have suggestions?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> wad  try sudo ap-get -f install   <-- means fix
[14:04] <wad> I'll try it, thanks!
[14:06] <wad> MonkeyDust, I had to kill the process (CTRL-C didn't work), and your command resulted in "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". I ran that command, it it goes back to the same line, getting stuck again. :(
[14:07] <TJ-> dgbaley: I'm not sure which NFS version the server used originally, but it's been using v4 for the past couple of years and boots the images still
[14:07] <hateball> wad: have you checked that your disk is not full? run "df -h" in a terminal
[14:07] <wad> 1.5T available.
[14:07] <hateball> and you do not have a separate partition for /boot that is full either ?
[14:07]  * wad checks
[14:08] <wad> /dev/sda1                    236M   85M  139M  39% /boot
[14:08] <wad> Plenty of space in /boot
[14:08] <wad> Keep the ideas flowing! :)
[14:08] <dgbaley> TJ-: can I see your boot options for PXE? My v4 attempt looks like this: root=/dev/nfs ro nfsroot=172.20.66.2:/img/ubuntu-14.04 ip=dhcp quiet
[14:09] <dgbaley> TJ-: And in the mountd log, all I see are MNT3 requests
[14:09] <TJ-> dgbaley: see http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/NetbootPxeLiveCDMultipleReleases
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> wad  try sudo apt autoclean, first
[14:13] <wad> ok
[14:14] <wad> I did the autoclean, and it seems to have done something.
[14:15] <wad> Then I ran "apt-get  -f install" and it hangs again, same line. :(
[14:15] <wad> I can kill it with "kill -9".
[14:15] <hateball> wad: which version is this on?
[14:15] <wad> 14 LTS 64-bit desktop.
[14:16] <hateball> hmmm, same as I am. then the kernel+modules dont take more than ~32mb together so it shouldnt be the /boot full issue
[14:16] <hateball> thats the most common thing for me
[14:16] <hateball> wad: could you run apt-get autoremove, just for kicks?
[14:16] <wad> sure!
[14:17] <wad> Ugh, same problem, hung on the same line: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-35-generic
[14:17] <hateball> that should remove unused kernels etc, freeing up space. but it probably isnt the issue
[14:17] <wad> No, there were only two things to remove. I keep my system fairly clean.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> wad  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'repair', make executable and run it ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12125046/
[14:18] <wad> Thanks. I'll look at that in a minute. Found something on ubuntuforums that I'm gonna try.
[14:20] <TJ-> dgbaley: the nfs modules for v3 and v4 both seem to be in initrd by default; i'm not sure why the client side would be seeming to use v3 though
[14:20] <wad> Ugh, a bunch of these commands I'm trying just get me to the same hang state. :(
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> wad  can there be something wrong with the mirror you're using?
[14:22] <wad> It seems to have downloaded updates just fine, there is something whacked with the initramfs-tools install.
[14:22] <SopaXT> Hi!
[14:22] <wad> Looking on the googles, I think there is a directory missing somewhere.
[14:22] <wad> Several people said they had this problem, and making a symlink to a directory fixed it.
[14:22] <wad> If only I knew how to debug this, and see what the underlying problem is.
[14:22] <SopaXT> On my Lenovo TP E330, there was a terrible flicker -> eye damage.
[14:23] <wad> Maybe there is a verbosity flag on apt-get....
[14:23] <SopaXT> When I tried to find the problem, I found two controllers in /sys/class/backlight
[14:23] <sreejith> hi i tried to install ubuntu 12.4.4 in my server its a raid 5 server but its showing an  GRUB error after fineeshing installation
[14:23] <wad> Or maybe there is a way to use dpkg directly (instead of the apt-get wrapper) to figure out the issue.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> SopaXT  keep your wuestion in one line, it's easier to read and repeat
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> question*
[14:24] <SopaXT> MonkeyDust, I will now describe it in one line.
[14:27] <ioria> wad do you have this file  /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools.postinst    ?
[14:27]  * wad looks
[14:27] <SopaXT> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E330, it had terrible screen flicker. One year of using it led to eye damage. Linking the trouble to backlight, I discovered two backlight controllers in /sys/class/backlight: intel_backlight and acpi_video0. I discovered that the PWM frequency doubles if I set intel's backlight to max_brightness. And then, to my wonder, the backlight switch still works, but no flicker is noticeable. Ideas?
[14:27] <wad> ioria, doesn't exist.
[14:27] <ioria> wad no good
[14:27] <wad> :(
[14:28] <AbuDhar> hey
[14:28] <AbuDhar> how to change system font? :D
[14:30] <WRStone3> Anyone ever work with Powerbroker Identity Services Open (PBIS Open)?  I'm having an odd problem where Linux servers are not returning the correct AD groups of which a user is a member.
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> AbuDhar  try qt4 settings
[14:31] <wad> Anyone know how to put "apt-get install" into some sort of verbose mode? So I can debug into this issue?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> WRStone3  there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:31] <ioria> wad are you trusty 10.0.4.3 ?
[14:31] <ioria> wad are you trusty 14.0.4.3 ?
[14:31] <WRStone3> Thanks, MonkeyDust, I'll have a look over there.
[14:31] <AbuDhar> never mind. I found out :D
[14:31] <wad> I think so.
[14:31] <wad> Let me verify for sure.
[14:32] <TJ-> dgbaley: have you tried adding the version into the mount options, as in "nfsroot=172.20.66.2:/img/ubuntu-14.04,vers=4"
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> AbuDhar  how did you do it
[14:32] <wad> I'm the LTS version of trusty.
[14:32] <ioria> wad cat /etc/issue
[14:32] <AbuDhar> MonkeyDust, system settings and application appearance
[14:32] <AbuDhar> I am using KDE
[14:32] <sreejith> grub error showig  "out of disk" after installation of ubuntu 12.4
[14:33] <iMin3Ra1n> hey linux. just installed ubuntu 13.04 under wubi under windows 10. i booted ubuntu, and there's no user to login to. just "login" and it prompts you to put in your username followed by your password, which it rejected. I have no idea how to get into this computer. somebody please help? it didnt like me just inputting "ubuntu" and no password either
[14:33] <dgbaley> TJ-: yes, I have, but looking in nfsmount, it doesn't support that
[14:33] <Technobliterator> so, I think I've asked this before but I've not found a solution to my problem; does anyone know what's wrong with my computer if internet in Ubuntu is very slow to download and browse, but my speeds were very good on Windows and are good on any other device I use the internet on?
[14:34] <Technobliterator> I don't think it's to do with my modem, but it might be some dns error
[14:35] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, wireless, if i recall correctly?
[14:35] <Pici> iMin3Ra1n: 1) 13.10 is no longer supported, it reached its EOL date in 2014. 2) Wubi is not supported under Windows 8+, 3) Wubi is very hard to support and no one in this channel tends to suggest it for any installs.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Technobliterator  here's a few speed boost tips   http://paste.ubuntu.com/12125205/
[14:36] <Technobliterator> Wireless, yeah
[14:37] <Technobliterator> alright, I will do those things, thanks
[14:37] <Bluewolf> Can anyone help with changing the colour of my window frame of LibreOffice, I'm gifted with faulty eyes and the bright screen irritates them, the dark mod of Gnome dose not seem to influence LibreOffice - I have manage to solve the page colour and its background as seen in this screenshot ( http://imgur.com/pgMXfyh )?
[14:38] <furious> hola, donde encuentro un canal en español
[14:38] <newchap> helo
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf  not exactly what you're asking, but redshift-gtk dims your screen
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> !es
[14:41] <Technobliterator> MonkeyDust, I've done this
[14:42] <Bluewolf> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the consideration, but I don't think it will help. The screen needs to be bright, but with a dark applications. White and grey on the screen strains my eyes. :(
[14:42] <Technobliterator> Download speeds still hover at around 11 kbps
[14:42] <Technobliterator> I'm fairly sure there's some bug or something that's causing it to be so slow, and I don't know what :/
[14:43] <TJ-> dgbaley: Learn something new every day. So the kernel doesn't support nfsv4 rootfs; my config must be using nfsv3 and I never realised since I set up the non-remote stuff to be v4 I assumed it all was
[14:43] <TJ-> dgbaley: defaults to v2 unless there's vers=3
[14:44] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, some wirelessdrivers are not optimum..  specially if it is wireless N: solution can be> trottle back to 54 mbit
[14:44] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, that can be set in networkmanager, or in some routers, macfilter, and connection type
[14:44] <TJ-> dgbaley: or probably, version=3 ... I can't quite see how the internal kernel default NFS_ROOT_OPTIONS with vers=2  gets translated to 'version=2' for nfsmount's mount_call()
[14:46] <Jack64> hey guys, I've been struggling with getting nvidia drivers working on my laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 (I have a GeForce 650M). I tried following 400 different tutorials and nothing makes cudaHashcat work. Any tips so I can end this frustration?
[14:48] <Technobliterator> I will try doing that, but I don't know if it'll work
[14:49] <Technobliterator> I don't think that's what's causing the problem because I didn't find anything online suggesting it doesn't work with Ubuntu
[14:49] <OerHeks> Jack64, there is an official ppa comming for nvidiadrivers  still in testing, but nice ... http://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-official-ppa-graphics/  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:51] <akik> is there a guide somewhere how to mount a cifs mount with systemd?
[14:51] <SopaXT> Can I repeat my message?
[14:51] <OerHeks> SopaXT, sure
[14:51] <Jack64> OerHeks: thanks, I'll follow that see if I can get anywhere
[14:52] <OerHeks> Jack64, especially the new 352/355 driver
[14:53] <SopaXT> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E330, it had terrible screen flicker. One year of using it led to eye damage. Linking the trouble to backlight, I discovered two backlight controllers in /sys/class/backlight: intel_backlight and acpi_video0. I discovered that the PWM frequency doubles if I set intel's backlight to max_brightness. And then, to my wonder, the backlight switch still works, but no flicker is noticeable. Ideas?
[14:53] <Jack64> especially as in go for it or stay way from it?
[14:55] <OerHeks> Jack64, no, maybe those drivers are suited for cuda hash cat
[14:55] <Jack64> I used the "Additional Controllers" menu to install the ones I currently have
[14:55] <Jack64> still no luck
[14:56] <OerHeks> Jack64, that is oke, just add the ppa, and run that driver menu again
[14:56] <OerHeks> to reverse, if not working, use ppa-purge
[14:56] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[14:56] <Jack64> OerHeks: ok, I'll do that, check back in a bit. thanks
[14:57] <Technobliterator> Oh, something I found online suggests it's to do with "power management" that is causing my USB wifi to run slower
[14:57] <Technobliterator> could that still be true in 15.04?
[14:58] <OerHeks> Technobliterator, yes, powermanagment, or hardware-encryption. depends on what chipset
[14:59] <Technobliterator> any way I can stop that?
[15:01] <Jack64> OerHeks: ok, ppa added and update done. now I pick 355 or 352, either one works? and after that, do I need something like optirun to run hashcat?
[15:01] <OerHeks> Jack64, optirun, i don't know about that :-(
[15:02] <AbuDhar> KDE is beautiful :D
[15:02] <Jack64> that is like a switching app that uses the dedicated GPU instead of the intel one
[15:03] <OerHeks> that used to be nvidia-prime AFAIK
[15:05] <markizano> Hello, I'm trying to create ubuntu remix, and i'm unable to login after successfully creating the image.\n (ERROR:....
[15:05] <markizano> The error is related to authentication failure.
[15:05] <Technobliterator> I can't find how to disable power management for USB anywhere? ?__?
[15:05] <markizano> Looking deeper in the logs, it looks like getty is trying to run as or identify the user "ubuntu" despite I've changed the default account to "docker"
[15:06] <markizano> Anyone know where the config is to get getty to run without vomiting all over the floor ?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> markizano  that was an emotional question... please rephrase
[15:06] <markizano> Technobliterator: either of these work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/80638/how-to-disable-auto-power-off-of-usb-devices-like-usb-mouse  http://askubuntu.com/questions/185274/how-can-i-disable-usb-autosuspend-for-a-specific-device
[15:07] <markizano> MonkeyDust: yeah, my issue is getty (I suspect) is somehow trying to `id ubuntu' and it can't. I've only added 'docker'
[15:07] <markizano> but when the VM starts up on the live CD I've created, I get through the boot all the way to starting getty.
[15:08] <Technobliterator> the first tells me powernap-action is not a command, though I'm not sure that's related to usb wifi?
[15:08] <markizano> http://pastebin.com/bJTandZ3 <- I've had to remove all the other ttyX.conf files from /etc/init
[15:08] <Technobliterator> the solutions I've found to the USB wifi online keep giving me results like "command not found"
[15:09] <markizano> Technobliterator: oh wifi power management - iwconfig $WLAN power off
[15:10] <Technobliterator> "iwconfig: unknown command "off""
[15:11] <K4k> Hey, I'm getting "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" when trying to grab some packages but apt-mark and dpkg show no holds
[15:11] <K4k> I've run autoclean and update but I still get the error
[15:12] <notionSunday> finished a project
[15:12] <notionSunday> for the raspberry pi and cam module https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29AsBTVfF6g
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> K4k  you too ... I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'repair', make executable and run it ...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12125046/
[15:12] <markizano> If I login single user mode, I get root - if I run getty manaully, no issues. If I proceed to `init 5' it returns authentication failure, with the logs saying: pam_unix(login:account): could not identify user (from getpwnam(ubuntu))
[15:13] <Technobliterator> yeah, it keeps telling me "off" is an unknown command...???
[15:13] <K4k> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll have a look at that
[15:13] <markizano> Technobliterator: Did you change $WLAN to the name of your wireless interface ?
[15:14] <Technobliterator> oh, no
[15:15] <K4k> WHY does paste.ubuntu.com require me to have a launchpad account to download the raw text version of a paste!? That's absolutely idiotic
[15:17] <Technobliterator> okay, now it's telling me the device name printed on the USB is wrong...
[15:17] <K4k> MonkeyDust: Same error after running that repair script
[15:18] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: What do you get when you type: ip link
[15:18] <OerHeks> K4k, yes, that is a requirement, you can use it free without those option.
[15:18] <OerHeks> (think of spammers, or hackers to use it as a base)
[15:19] <Technobliterator> 1 sec
[15:19] <Technobliterator> trying to reconnect on desktop
[15:21] <derek01> im having an issue getting nvidia drivers to work. Not even sure where to start...Issue is starting to get me mad. Something about nvidia settings not finding the registry key?
[15:21] <Technobliterator> I don't get why I'd need power management on usb devices at all on a desktop
[15:21] <Jack64> OerHeks: installed 355 and got black screen at login
[15:22] <K4k> Packages are still broken. Tried using the broken package filter in synaptic as well, it doesn't show anything
[15:22] <Jack64> OerHeks: going to have to remove nvidia-* and apt-get install nvidia-current (only way to get the login prompt back)
[15:22] <K4k> Is there a way to get something more useful to troubleshoot with besides "Something" is broken, this seems like a horribly vague message
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> K4k  copy/paste the exact error message
[15:23] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: I would imagine it would be for something like USB external drives. But, I see your point.
[15:24] <K4k> MonkeyDust:
[15:24] <K4k> er...
[15:24] <K4k> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12125628/
[15:24] <Technobliterator> I just don't get why I don't have the option to just completely disable it
[15:24] <havinagiggle> what burning program does eliot use in mr.robot?
[15:24] <K4k> I'm using apt-offline to grab packages for me to use offline on another system. If I try to install build-essential by itself I see this error....
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !ot | havinagiggle, ?
[15:25] <K4k> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12125650/
[15:25] <Technobliterator> anyway, ip link gives me: http://pastie.org/10361650
[15:25] <blib> uwsgi is starting on a server. How do I figure out how did it start, or who started it?
[15:25] <havinagiggle> cfhowlett: i need support in finding the burning tool which eliot uses
[15:25] <Fuchs> blib: pstree if you are lucky
[15:26] <cfhowlett> havinagiggle,  this is ubuntu support not TV/Movie trivia.  look somewhere else.
[15:26] <blib> Fuchs: init -- sh───uwsgi───5*[uwsgi───{uwsgi}]
[15:26] <havinagiggle> are burning options in ubuntu now trivia?
[15:26] <Fuchs> blib: an init script then, see if one of the other scripts depend on it  (grep could do, or one of the various boot chart thingies)
[15:27] <derek01> im having an issue getting nvidia drivers to work. Not even sure where to start...Issue is starting to get me mad. Something about nvidia settings not finding the registry key?
[15:27] <cfhowlett> havinagiggle, "havinagiggle> what burning program does eliot use in mr.robot?"
[15:27] <blib> Fuchs: in /etc/init.d I have uwsgi
[15:27] <blib> is that it?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> K4k in a terminal, type 'apt-cache show apt-offline' ... are you using two machines?
[15:27] <K4k> havinagiggle: You're specifically asking what burner was used in a TV show. We're more than happy to recommend a burning utility available in Ubuntu but we do not necessarily know the answer to your exact question.
[15:27] <OerHeks> K4k, on what ubuntu version is this?
[15:27] <Fuchs> blib: yes, but probably something else did start that. Unless you enabled it for your runlevel
[15:27] <K4k> MonkeyDust: Yes, two machines
[15:27] <blib> Fuchs: service uwsgi status - says "Which one?"
[15:27] <K4k> OerHeks: 14.04
[15:28] <OerHeks> K4k, seems like your ubuntu is not up2date
[15:28] <havinagiggle> K4k: no problem, thanks - i will keep looking
[15:28] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:28] <Technobliterator> so, is there no way to just disable power management for usb wifi? am I stuck with it?
[15:29] <Technobliterator> I haven't found anything helpful by searching
[15:29] <blib> Fuchs: any way to figure out how its started?
[15:29] <K4k> OerHeks: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade show now new packages
[15:29] <K4k> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12125723/
[15:29] <K4k> OerHeks: s/now/no
[15:29] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: Did you ever find the name of your wifi interface?
[15:30] <Technobliterator> Nope
[15:30] <OerHeks> K4k, how about dist-upgrade ?
[15:30] <drkjstr> Try in the terminial: ip link
[15:30] <K4k> same
[15:30] <K4k> I'm confident that I'm on the latest available for 14.04
[15:31] <Technobliterator> drkjstr, http://pastie.org/10361650
[15:31] <OerHeks> K4k, any PPA's? cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:31] <markizano> In ubuntu-remix, something is trying to identify ubuntu - not sure why, but it's only in runlevel(5). running in single-user mode and executing getty work fine.
[15:31] <OerHeks> err ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:31] <cfhowlett> K4k, "latest available" would be obtained with sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:31] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: it is that wlan0 try the previous command with that as the name.
[15:32] <K4k> cfhowlett: upgrade + dist-upgrade is not the same?
[15:32] <OerHeks> markizano, ubuntu remix is not an official ubuntu ..
[15:32] <markizano> Could it be the lack of a hostname definition upon host provisioning ? I did update /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname to reflect the desired hostname, but when booting into a VM, it stays "ubuntu"
[15:32] <cfhowlett> K4k, they are not
[15:32] <Technobliterator> sudio iwconfig wlan0 power off?
[15:32] <Technobliterator> *sudo
[15:32] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: yes
[15:32] <markizano> OerHeks: and... ?
[15:32] <OerHeks> full-upgrade does not work here, only dist-upgrade ( wonder who came up with that)
[15:32] <Technobliterator> drkjstr, "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported."
[15:33] <K4k> MonkeyDust: This may be helpful... I accidentally ran apt-offline install bundle.zip on a deb bundle I had made but these were using old deb versions. This is when this error began. I've since gone and removed all deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives to clean that out
[15:33] <Jack64> OerHeks: any other tips to solve the nvidia trouble aside from the ppa solution?
[15:33] <derek01> anyone got any experience with nvidia drivers not working?
[15:33] <markizano> I'm more concerned about when I startup my VM - it gives me "authentication failure" rather than a login prompt.
[15:33] <derek01> im having an issue getting nvidia drivers to work. Not even sure where to start...Issue is starting to get me mad. Something about nvidia settings not finding the registry key?
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> K4k  dist-upgrade removes obsolete packages, upgrade doesnt
[15:33] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, apt full-upgrade    = apt-get dist-upgrade.  still confusing as heck.
[15:33] <markizano> Something in getty's configuration, or a descendent of it is trying to getpwnam(ubuntu).
[15:33] <mcphail> OerHeks: apt full-upgrade, not apt-get
[15:33] <markizano> I just need a clue as to what that might be and it should be good.
[15:34] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, mcphail thanks for the clarify
[15:34] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: Well, that's no good. I found this article, maybe it can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85214/how-can-i-prevent-iwconfig-power-management-from-being-turned-on
[15:34] <mcphail> OerHeks: I just found that one yesterday :)
[15:35] <OerHeks> Jack64, no, what tutor are you using for that cuda hash cat ?
[15:35] <drkjstr> mcphail: OerHeks: I didn't know about apt instead of apt-get until just recently.
[15:36] <Jack64> OerHeks: no tutorial, it was working and then broke after an apt-get dist-upgrade. Never fixed it since then cause I haven't needed it but I need it now
[15:36] <luc4> Hello! I just installed ubuntu in my PC using EFI. However it seems even though installation was successful only windows can be booted. I see no multiboot screen. Any idea why?
[15:36] <Jack64> OerHeks: and I can't remember how to do it again
[15:36] <Technobliterator> alright drkjstr, done all of those
[15:36] <Technobliterator> hopefully it'll now be fine
[15:36] <Technobliterator> thanks!
[15:36] <cfhowlett> drkjstr, I seem to recall an announcement in one of the mail lists, but no major announcement.  still getting used to it.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> luc4  hold shift during boot, it will bring the grub menu
[15:37] <drkjstr> Technobliterator: I hope so too. Come on back if it doesn't though.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> bring up*
[15:38] <luc4> MonkeyDust: nope, no grub. Only damn windows.
[15:38] <drkjstr> derek01: Have you looked at this?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:39] <OerHeks> !uefi
[15:40] <luc4> OerHeks: are you answering to me?
[15:40] <OerHeks> luc4, that is the uefi manual, i have no experience with that myself.
[15:40] <luc4> OerHeks: read that already, still not working.
[15:41] <luc4> Tried boot repair, still not working.
[15:41] <OerHeks> luc4, does it work with secureboot disabled?
[15:41] <K4k> apt-get install build-essential says g++ is the wrong version... but g++ isn't installed. Trying to install g++ says g++ is the wrong version... but it's not installed... so... wat?
[15:42] <luc4> Boot repair told me to run a bcdedit command if windows was booted, but I cannot understand where to run that command.
[15:42] <luc4> OerHeks: no, it is already disabled.
[15:48] <ash_work> for the following quote: "Using purge or --purge remove instead of remove does not reverse changes to existing systemwide configuration files provided by other packages or created manually by the user. However, sometimes such changes are undone by uninstalling the package (whether or not it's a purge rather than a remove)." ... by what mechanism of "uninstalling" are they referring?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> ash_work, what command gave you that information?
[15:49] <mainred>  
[15:50] <ash_work> cfhowlett: its from a askubuntu post
[15:50] <ash_work> an*
[15:51] <medicijnman> i don't know if this is normal, but i ran srm image*.jpg and gvfsd-mtp just SIGSEGV'd. is this common?
[15:51] <Technobliterator> well, wifi download's still only 1mbps, but I haven't rebooted yet. that's still a massive improvement
[15:51] <cfhowlett> ash_work, the lack of context makes it difficult your question.
[15:52] <ash_work> cfhowlett: this was just general information about removing packages with sudo apt-get purge ... or sudo apt-get --purge remove ...
[15:52] <the> hi
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> ash_work  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[15:53] <cfhowlett> ash_work, I would suggest you read the man page for apt-get's replacement: man apt
[15:53] <LtL> 3.19.0-26-generic
[15:54] <boze> I tried a boot repair disk, but no dice. Any chance of saving it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12120966/
[15:55] <K4k> MonkeyDust: You got any other ideas what's going on here? From all I can tell, the version of the package apt-get wants to install is not available but I'm connected directly to the ubuntu upstream repositories and I have no PPAs installed
[15:56] <wangshidong> why ubuntu 15.04 sudo apt-get install mysql ! then in the terminal can not insert chinese
[15:57] <wangshidong> but ubuntu 14.04 is ok
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !cn | wangshidong,
[15:58] <wangshidong> not for chinese
[15:58] <wangshidong> just thr insert commund
[15:58] <Stawidy> wangshidong, Is it something wrong with your Input method?
[15:58] <ash_work> yes, well, I am having some general confustion but i can use my current circumstance as an example
[15:59] <evilnebby> I would like to install ubuntu 14.04 lts using encryption and lvm, but would like the root lv to be smaller than the entire contents of the hdd. Is this possible in the installer?
[15:59] <ash_work> so, sometimes I'll install something and the package command works fine; in this case "docker"
[15:59] <wangshidong> no vim terminal is ok
[15:59] <ash_work> so like, docker runs as though it is a command and gives feedback as such
[15:59] <ash_work> however, something like start docker, doesn't find docker
[16:00] <Stawidy> there're not many people at #ubuntu-cn
[16:00] <wangshidong> maybe mysql5.6 id not for ubuntu15.04
[16:00] <OerHeks> luc4, maybe this page is any help http://itsfoss.com/no-grub-windows-linux/
[16:00] <luc4> OerHeks: I’ll have a look, thanks.
[16:00] <ash_work> so someone was telling me to uninstall the package and I am not really familiar with uninstallation processes in general
[16:01] <OerHeks> or is it just the way around ..
[16:01] <wangshidong> i have change to ubuntu 14.04 ,and the mysql 5.5 works very well
[16:01] <SamYaple> Hey guys. Is there an IRC channel for the packagers for the Ubuntu Cloud-Archive Openstack stuff? Trying to include that in the Openstack project Kolla and need some contacts for questions
[16:01] <ash_work> so I looked it up and someone posted about sudo apt-get --purge remove ....
[16:01] <cfhowlett> wangshidong, 14.04 is long-term support.  15.04 is supported for only 9 months.
[16:01] <Pici> SamYaple: #ubuntu-server would be a good place to start
[16:01] <ash_work> MonkeyDust: ^
[16:01] <wangshidong> yeal
[16:02] <drkjstr> evilnebby: I haven't done an encrypted LVM that wasn't the full disk, myself.  But, you should be able to do this via the manual partitioning section of the installer.
[16:02] <wangshidong> so i have go back to 14.04
[16:02] <SamYaple> Pici: thanks
[16:02] <ash_work> MonkeyDust: since I came across that post I didn't know what would be the best way to uninstall docker, although it would seem that case scenario is no longer relevant
[16:02] <ash_work> MonkeyDust: but I still would like to know how to uninstall something should that need arise
[16:02] <wangshidong> is there any one use vim as java ide
[16:03] <wangshidong> any usefull plugin
[16:03] <evilnebby> drkjstr: thanks. I should clarify that I would like to use the entire disk, but I would only like the ubuntu-vg/root logical volume to occupy ~20% leaving the remaining 80% for other logical volumes in the same volume group
[16:04] <ash_work> MonkeyDust: and I didn't know when reading that post if Eliah was mentioning 3 commands, or 2 (sudo apt-get purge ... or sudo apt-get --purge remove ...) when he says: "Using purge or --purge remove instead of remove does not reverse changes to existing systemwide configuration files provided by other packages or created manually by the user. However, sometimes such changes are undone by uninstalling the package (whether or not it's 
[16:04] <drkjstr> evilnebby: I'm assuming it is similar to the manual method for unencrypted LVM, but you would just make a smaller partion and assign it the mount point of /.
[16:06] <K4k> MonkeyDust: Fixed it
[16:06] <drkjstr> evilnebby: I usually setup my installs with a smaller / than my /home.
[16:06] <K4k> So... apparently the offline system and this online system are using two different repository mirrors and the on the offline system uses has more packages available than the one this online system had available
[16:07] <wangshidong> \q
[16:08] <catalase> http://pastebin.com/BwdfJxFC
[16:08] <catalase> i am running this on ubuntu server 14.04.3 lts and i receive this output Update the packages list is not understoodtion --yes
[16:09] <catalase> what is wrong with that when i run /bin/sh /etc/cron.d/update.sh
[16:09] <maou> Hi all, what could be causing repeated internet connection dropping on a wireless network (the wireless does not disconnect), which can be momentarily fixed by disconnecting and reconnecting in 14.04?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !server | catalase
[16:10] <Bluewolf> Can anyone help with changing the colour of my window frame of LibreOffice, I'm gifted with faulty eyes and the bright screen irritates them, the dark mod of Gnome dose not seem to influence LibreOffice - I have manage to solve the page colour and its background as seen in this screenshot ( http://imgur.com/pgMXfyh )?
[16:10] <catalase> cfhowlett, what?
[16:11] <cfhowlett> catalase, ask #ubuntu-server        about your server issues.
[16:13] <spacebug^> Seriously? I can't even boot the live-cd (USB) 14.04. Wnated to install Ubuntu but it gives me an error. "acpi pcc probe failed" (error related to nouveau). Maxwell, unknown chipset, unable to set DRM 0000000x80 (something like that)
[16:13] <pombreda> Hiya :) I am asked to test mainline kernels per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds to deal with a Dell latitude e6540 touchpad bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1480615
[16:13] <pombreda> Should I uninstall vitualbox prior to this?
[16:13] <evilnebby> drkjstr: I may be thinking about this with incorrect assumptions :) If I want my entire disk to be in one VG, and that entire vg to be encrypted, wouldn't my partition table only have a single partition occupying the entire disk, with multiple logical volumes inside? My ultimate goal is to have ubuntu install as it would by default, but with the root logical volume not occupying the entire disk.
[16:14] <boze> I'm transitioning a desktop computer to ubuntu for work cause my laptop died. There's 4 hard drives. I can see 2 in nautilus. one's the windows drive the other is ubuntu. How come I can't see the other two? I can see them in the disks program
[16:15] <luc4> OerHeks: that seemed to make it work! Thanks!
[16:15] <derek01> drkjstr: Ive installed and reinstalled about 47 times, all come back to the same error, it seems the drivers are in use, when I run dpkg -l | grep nvidia, it shows the correct drivers. however, the settings manager wont start properly, it shows only two side menus, neither pertaining to any useful attributes
[16:18] <drkjstr> evilnebby: So you want the whole drive to be one LVM, and inside it to have a 20% /, with space to have other volumes, right?
[16:18] <derek01> drkjstr: also shows this in console when running nvidia-settings; ** Message: PRIME: No offloading required. Abort
[16:18] <derek01> ** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no
[16:18] <evilnebby> drkjstr: just so, yes.
[16:20] <derek01> oh and im also getting errors about the kernel compiler not being the same as the one in use
[16:21] <drkjstr> derek01: Unfortunately, I haven't run any setups with NVIDIA cards, so I don't have any experience with their drivers.
[16:21] <allwhitebuffies> uhhh i don't know what i'm doing
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !details | allwhitebuffies
[16:22] <drkjstr> evilnebby: Take a look at this article, it is for an older version 12.04, but might have information relevant to your goal. Ignore the RAID part of it: http://www.itfromscratch.com/install-ubuntu-server-12-04-with-encrypted-lvm-on-raid1/6/
[16:22] <evilnebby> will do, thanks.
[16:22] <derek01> maybe someone can help with this error, as its not specific to nvidia. The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc 4.8) does not exactly match the current compiler (gcc 4.9).
[16:23] <derek01> how could I make the compiler default to 4.8
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> derek01: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:25] <drkjstr> derek01: maybe this can help: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=49869
[16:26] <derek01> actionparsnip: Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[16:26] <derek01> drkjstr: thanks ill try that.
[16:43] <nils> Hi! My problem is that booting with kernel 3.19 hangs waiting for the encryptet disk, I booted 3.16 to be able to type this. Is this a known problem? (I searched the net, and some seems to have similar problems with 4+ kernels)
[16:44] <rizakis> hey, anybody knows how to upload an image via link for example on facebook on linux?
[16:45] <cfhowlett> rizakis, sounds like a question you should ask facebook ...
[16:45] <nils> To add to my fear, I messed about with crypttab to get swap to work, after upgrading from Ubuntu 14.4 to 15.4 via 14.8, so I might be responsible for the problem (too)...
[16:45] <rizakis> it's easy to do on windows, but i can't figure out how to do this on linux
[16:48] <Patty__> Hello, how to extracting only files existing in the destination directory ? (for example i've file1 & file2 in my archive ; i've file2 in my destination file, it's remplaced but file1 is not created. thk
[16:50] <chohe> are there any issues with grunt-cli and 14.04 It keeps complaining about Non-Ascii values
[16:51] <ash_work> so this laptop came with a webcam but there isn't any kind of detection of it on Linux...
[16:51] <ash_work> ie: there are no video files in the /dev/ dir
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> ash_work: do you see yourself in cheese?
[16:52] <ash_work> ActionParsnip: it says: "no device found"
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> ash_work: if you run:  lsusb; lsb_release -a; uname -a     what is the output please? You can use http://pastie.org (or similar) to hold the output
[16:54] <derek01> ok so still no go, its still complaining about not finding the kernel source headers. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12127642
[16:54] <tanker> hi what linux can I get that is like windows but not zorin  it just not working out    lol like the os is broke
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> tanker: Kubuntu
[16:55] <tanker> any others  that are easy to use  as well ?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> tanker: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Kubuntu-14-04-LTS-Beta-1-Trusty-Tahr-Is-Out-Screenshot-Tour-430062-6.jpg
[16:56] <cfhowlett> !flavors | tanker
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> tanker: they are all the same OS, just with a different desktop environment
[16:56] <ash_work> ActionParsnip: http://hastebin.com/ominoqobey
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ash_work: is it a Lenovo?
[16:58] <tanker> ok this is for a older person thats way and I for got about xubuntu thx
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> ash_work: if you run:   groups    are you a member of the video group?
[16:58] <drkjstr> tanker: Also, ubuntu MATE for 15.04 is similar to the GNOME2 version of the older Ubuntu versions.
[16:58] <ash_work> ActionParsnip: no
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> ash_work: add yourself to the video group then log off and on
[16:59] <tanker> pls my computer has intel core 2 duo  and 4 gb ram as wall
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> tanker: xubuntu will be great. Its super light
[17:00] <drkjstr> derek01: sorry to hear that didn't help. I'm fresh out of ideas. Maybe someone else has more experience with NVIDIA on Ubuntu.
[17:00] <derek01> drkjstr: I think it has something to do with the recent upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04, its complaining about the headers. looks like grub might be pointing to the old ones?
[17:01] <drkjstr> tanker: I agree with ActionParsnip. Xubuntu is a good lightweight version that should be good as a Windows replacement.
[17:01] <drkjstr> derek01: Have you looked at your alternate kernels when grub pops up?
[17:02] <tanker> ActionParsnip: ok thx and drkjstr: I will be back if something happens lol
[17:02] <derek01> drkjstr: it only shows all the same kernels, but with upstart and recovery
[17:02] <derek01> drkjstr: 3.16.0.icantremember lol
[17:02] <derek01> drkjstr 3.16.0.45
[17:02] <ash_work> ActionParsnip: ugh, is this what I was supposed to run: sudo useradd -G Group-name Username
[17:03] <ash_work> because it just responds: useradd: user `username` already exists
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> ash_work: sudo usermod -a -G video $USER
[17:04] <ash_work> hooray
[17:07] <ash_m> what did you tell me to do after I logged in??
[17:08] <ash_m> ugh
[17:09] <ash_m> I can't even remember that person's nick
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: log off and log in
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: then rerun cheese
[17:09] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: ! that's right
[17:09] <ash_m> cheese still says no devices found
[17:09] <NilsR> I would be very grateful for some feedback from anyone feeling confident in their understanding of crypttab and luks
[17:09] <ash_m> unless I'm supposed to run it from the terminal
[17:10] <Guest88186> Hi - I'm trying to solve an issue where my system boots to a black screen (No mouse, C-ALT-F1 unresponsive) after the initial ubuntu splashscreen. I've tried to remove 'quiet splash' from the GRUB command and replacing it with 'nosplash debug' but this just gives me a blank screen from bootup. Any ideas on what to to next would be great! Thanks
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: what is the make and model of the system please?
[17:11] <ash_m> MSI GE70 ApachePro
[17:11] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Guest88186 Have you tried ? for Nvidia and ATI chip sets .
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: is the camera enabled in BIOS?
[17:12] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: I guess I could check :
[17:12] <ash_m> \:\
[17:12] <ffmbm> http://www.lablue.de/nu,ffmbm.html
[17:13] <Guest88186> ubottu yes I've tried replacing splash quiet with nomodeset which also just gives me a black screen. Is there a way to boot without starting x from grub?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: also use Fn + F6 to turn on the webcam....
[17:14] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: that was it
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: *sigh*
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: glad you got the gold
[17:15] <Bashing-om> Guest88186: What release ? as the intitiate system differs in 15.04 .
[17:15] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: as a note, I have never had type a command to get a webcam to work before.
[17:15] <ash_m> (or key-combo)
[17:15] <Guest88186> Bashing-om kubuntu 15.04
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: your system has a combo to enable the webcam and disable it
[17:16] <Bashing-om> Guest88186: There is a means to boot to terminal in 15.04, but I do not know ... others will have to advise .
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: so it makes sense to try it
[17:17] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: that is true
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: all I did was search the web...
[17:18] <Ricardus> which ones?
[17:18] <Ricardus> (sorry, wrong tab)
[17:18] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: what did you search?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> ash_m: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MSI%20GE70%20linux%20webcam   and    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MSI+GE70+linux+webcam
[17:20] <vimes> How do I install a program with apt-get?
[17:20] <ash_m> ActionParsnip: lol, thanks
[17:21] <Xovs> shut up
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> vimes  sudo apt-get instal blah
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> vimes  sudo apt-get install blah
[17:21] <vimes> Thank you MonkeyDust <3
[17:21] <drkjstr> vimes: Another option is using apt instead of apt-get: sudo apt install blah
[17:22] <Bluewolf> Can anyone help with changing the colour of my window frame of LibreOffice, I'm gifted with faulty eyes and the bright screen irritates them, the dark mod of Gnome dose not seem to influence LibreOffice - I have manage to solve the page colour and its background as seen in this screenshot ( http://imgur.com/pgMXfyh )?
[17:23] <admbot> Hello guys, I have a problem regarding the audio, namely headphones.
[17:23] <admbot> My distro is Xubuntu 14.04 AMD64. The laptop is an Asus K55VD.
[17:23] <admbot> After installation, everything works fine, the audio (headphones) too, but it seems that after a random amount of time, or reboots maybe, the audio from the headphones just disappears.
[17:23] <admbot> The system does recognize it when I plug them in, it also seems to be directing audio to it, but nothing is to be heard, the speakers still work fine.
[17:23] <admbot> I've already tried messing around in alsamixer, looking if stuff was muted there, no result. Also did things like putting model=auto / generic / asus in the alsa config file, but it didn't work.
[17:23] <admbot> Does anybody have any idea what could cause this?
[17:23] <NilsR> Guest88186: Did you try to boot an earlier kernel? Sounds a bit like my problem. I can boot 3.16 but not 3.19
[17:24] <lickalott> hey guys my system continually drops into initramfs on initial boot.  I have to restart 1 - 2 times everyday.  Ive looked through the logs and did some searching and it seems that the crypt partition isn't mounting in time?  Is there a way to fix this without having to rebuild with no encryption?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> admbot: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[17:25] <WRStone3> Anyone ever work with Powerbroker Identity Services Open (PBIS Open)?  I'm having an odd problem where Ubuntu servers are not returning the correct AD groups of which a user is a member.
[17:25] <drkjstr> Bluewolf: Did you alter the colors using Tools --> Options --> Libre Office --> Appearance?
[17:25] <admbot> Hey ActionParsnip, it says the information is located here : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=123afe97e92c19a9ce1331c418b0d2e9fce0eab1
[17:26] <NilsR> lickalot: Try booting an earlier kernel. 3.16 works for me, 3.19 does not.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> admbot: did you try:   options snd-hda-intel model=asus   in alsa-base.conf ?
[17:28] <admbot> ActionParsnip: I believe I did, but I could try it again. sudo alsa force-reload and a reboot after doing so, right?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> admbot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1087428
[17:28] <lickalott> NiLsR
[17:28] <lickalott> can you elaborate?
[17:30] <NilsR> I got the 3.19 kernel through a normal upgrade, didn't reboot for a while
[17:30] <NilsR> When I did, I had the same result you had
[17:30] <admbot> ActionParsnip: Going to reboot, i'll report back here after it!
[17:30] <NilsR> I rebooted into an earlier kernel, and got in
[17:31] <snowfox> Herrooowww !
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> snowfox: hi
[17:33] <lickalott> i'm not versed on booting into an older kernel.  Is that in the menu that pops up in the beginning (i.e. edit my grub loader to select the older kernel)?
[17:33] <admbot> ActionParsnip: I just rebooted, it did not appear to make a difference, the speakers work, but the headphones are still dead :/
[17:35] <boze> I'm dual booting win/ubuntu. I have an internal storage drive that's saying it's an Intel Matrix RAID Member. I did an apt-get remove dmraid which made one HD show up. I still have one that's hiding
[17:36] <nabdev>  hi ،i have a blanc screen after grub list for ubuntu 14.04 , any idea how to resolve it ?
[17:36] <nabdev> i try nomodeset config param but not working
[17:40] <admbot> ActionParsnip:Seems I was a bit foolish and didn't read the bug report properly. A reboot does not work, but a shutdown + boot does somehow. The headphones work again, I really hope they don't go dead again within some random amount of time, thanks a lot for your time!
[17:41] <jarlescn> olá boa tarde. estou pela primeira vez aqui... alguém do Brasil on-line?
[17:42] <AEL-H> How can I change where apt-get install actually installs to? I would like to install some packages to a USB because there is not enough room on the HD
[17:42] <ruind> does ubuntu server come with any window manager?
[17:43] <FLeiXiuS> ruind, No.
[17:43] <OerHeks> AEL-H, that is not possible, AFAIK
[17:43] <ruind> ok, and does it have certain packages pre-installed like sshserver and ftpd or anything like that?
[17:44] <jarlescn> alguém do Brasil? alguém de curitiba?
[17:44] <drkjstr> AEL-H: Check this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/404824/how-to-choose-install-location-using-apt-get-install
[17:45] <OerHeks> ruind, no, you will get a menu to install ssh/lamp and such, called tasksel
[17:45] <OerHeks> !br | jarlescn
[17:45] <ruind> FLeiXiuS, OerHeks, ok, so it is like the oldschool debian installs.... thats what I want
[17:45] <OerHeks> oh br is not brazil, Spanish?
[17:45] <SJr> When I shutdown my computer for reboot or shutdown what runlevel does it go into?
[17:45] <OerHeks> ruind, jups
[17:45] <drkjstr> Protugese
[17:46] <jarlescn> obrigado
[17:46] <lickalott> NilsR, i'm not versed on booting into an older kernel.  Is that in the menu that pops up in the beginning (i.e. edit my grub loader to select the older kernel)?
[17:47] <NilsR> if you get a menu with the choice of advanced boot or something sounding like that, you can selct it and get a list of kernels
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> SJr: runlevel 5
[17:47] <lickalott> will this assist in correcting my issue NilsR http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[17:48] <FLeiXiuS> ruind, Server installs are minimal.  It's essentially Ubuntu base with a server kernel.
[17:48] <SJr> Hmmmm what is the best way to have a script execute on shutdown
[17:48] <SJr> regardless of why a shutdown occurred?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> SJr: if you just run:   runlevel    you will see the current and last runlevel you used
[17:48] <SJr> Yeah it just says N 2
[17:49] <NilsR> lickalott: seems to me holding down the shift key should work
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> SJr: yes, N = Null, as you booted direct to level 2
[17:49] <SJr> So the web actually says runlevel 6 is reboot and runlevel 0 is halt. Can I just throw a script in rc0.d and rc6.d?
[17:49] <NilsR> lickalott: you shouldn't need to edit the grub menu though
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> SJr: you can add things to the runlevel commands to run whatever you wish
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> SJr: runlevel 6 is reboot
[17:50] <lickalott> NilsR, once I find the kernel version that works best I can edit that menu to only have that available right?
[17:50] <NilsR> lickalott: if you have a standard Ubuntu setup, grub will give you a selection of (at least) the four latest kernels
[17:50] <SJr> Okay thanks
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> SJr: 5 is GUI, 1 is single user, 3 is where the server boot stops
[17:51] <nabdev_> any suggestion to my banc screen shot problem ?
[17:51] <NilsR> lickalott: not sure if that will survive the next update
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> nabdev_: Ive been in here a bit over an hour and not seen any other posts except the one just now
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> nabdev_: ahhh take off the underscore
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> nabdev_: does the system have a make and model?
[17:53] <AEL-H> drkjstr: From what I understand, that means downloading the package onto the usb and installing it there? I am very inexperienced with linux, do you think that would be do-able and is there much error for messing things up?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> nabdev_: can you press CTRL + ALT + F1 and log in and use the system there some (get updates)
[17:54] <enrico_> 2
[17:54] <nabdev_> ActionParsnip:  i use usb live boot now , i think that doesn't make sens to execut any command in this mode ? i use Lenovo z580 i5
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> nabdev_: you can chroot to the installed OS from the live USB deskotp
[17:56] <nabdev_> ActionParsnip: good , then what can i execut as command to resolve blanc screen ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> nabdev_: run full upates with:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dit-upgrade   (once chrooted of course) OMGUbuntu has a guide called "sticking it to GRUB"
[17:59] <zykotick9> s/dit-upgrade/dist-upgrade/
[18:01] <jd_tech> IRC is just full joins and quits :(
[18:01] <rofltech> in unity is there virtual desktops if yes how do i use the keyboard to swap windows between them and swap which i'm viewing
[18:02] <FLeiXiuS> jd_tech, Hide them - problem solved.  :-D
[18:03] <pauljw> rofltech, workspace switcher
[18:03] <OerHeks> rolfhold the super key, for a short list
[18:03] <OerHeks> err rofltech ^^
[18:03] <zykotick9> jd_tech: they can be turned off
[18:03] <rofltech> FLeiXiuS: ....no and no it's not
[18:03] <jd_tech> FleiXiuS, :D
[18:03] <enrico_> ciao
[18:04] <rofltech> pauljw: i checked there
[18:04] <jd_tech> I like to see them for my other channel though
[18:04] <rofltech> pauljw: er nvm sorry OerHeks checked there
[18:06] <OerHeks> ctrl +alt + up/down/left/right/
[18:07] <philip> check system status in percentage
[18:07] <drkjstr> jd_tech: which client are you using?
[18:07] <jd_tech> kiwi client on my webiste
[18:07] <jd_tech> *website
[18:08] <OerHeks> philip, ? was that a question ¿
[18:08] <pauljw> rofltech, system settings; appearance; behavior and enable workspaces.  that will put the workspace switcher on your launchbar
[18:08] <philip> yes
[18:08] <jd_tech> gtg, bye
[18:08] <drkjstr> jd_tech: Don't see it on this list: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[18:09] <philip> trying to do a report on the ubuntu server
[18:09] <AEL-H> sorry for the novice question.. but if I have insufficent space for an apt-get install -- can I just add a device , say an SD card and mount it onto / folder permenantly?
[18:10] <OerHeks> philip, what kind of percentages? still have no clue
[18:10] <gomes> hi?
[18:11] <gomes> how are you?
[18:11] <drkjstr> AEL-H: I don't think you can do that.  When you add a new storage device it can be added. But, I believe a different mount point is necessary.
[18:11] <philip> for example saying the ubuntu system has been running last week 100% or any form of report in ubuntu
[18:12] <drkjstr> AEL-H: So, instead of / it could be at /opt, /opt2, and so forth.
[18:12] <unloading> Im booting in black screen , but can login into my system via tty. Somebody had experiance with this problem?
[18:13] <drkjstr> unloading: Seem a lot of people are having this issue with 14.04 and kernel 3.19
[18:15] <OerHeks> philip, 'top' gives you a current status, 'uptime' about time and load, i don't know about such history
[18:15] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | unloading
[18:17] <jd_tech> drkjstr, my client: kiwiirc.com
[18:17] <unloading> ok
[18:18] <fusroda> hello can someone help me?
[18:18] <Daemoen> there is no help for you  (joke)
[18:18] <fusroda> lol
[18:18] <unloading> gonna check it out OerHeks
[18:18] <kadiro> hello all
[18:19] <Daemoen> didnt see the question, so unfortunately, i cant give you a real answer of any sort fusroda
[18:19] <kadiro> fusroda: just ask, someone can help
[18:19] <fusroda> I created a new user on ubuntu, and I have to use "sudo" before every command. how do I change it
[18:19] <fusroda> even cp mp
[18:19] <fusroda> mv
[18:20] <fusroda> sorry :D
[18:20] <Daemoen> fusroda, how did you create the user ?
[18:20] <Daemoen> seems that the users PATH variable is not being set
[18:20] <fusroda> I dont remember
[18:20] <fusroda> lol
[18:20] <WiREdGh05T> the command for channels list ?
[18:20] <OerHeks> fusroda, mv where? outside their home folder?
[18:20] <jd_tech> sudo -s
[18:20] <kadiro> !adduser | fusroda
[18:20] <Gallomimia> i think we need more information on your problem. are you logged in as that user? are you operating on files meant for your old user? does GUI work normal?
[18:20] <jd_tech> just use sudo -s to become root forever
[18:21] <jd_tech> be careful though!
[18:21] <Daemoen> jd_tech, ... please tell me youre being sarcastic
[18:21] <fusroda> hmm
[18:21] <jd_tech> Daemoen, ?
[18:21] <Gallomimia> don't operate as root unless you HAVE to.
[18:21] <Gallomimia> also, running programs as root instead of your normal user, really really bad idea.
[18:21] <Daemoen> fusroda, before you go through all of that, do me a quick favor:  ls -lah /home/youruser/.[a-z]*
[18:21] <fusroda> ok
[18:22] <Daemoen> ( dont paste that here though,  put it on pastebin/haste/etc )
[18:22] <OerHeks> fusroda, if mv/cp within the home folder need sudo, you did something wrong.
[18:22] <fusroda> on my VPS
[18:22] <jd_tech> well fusroda was asking how to not type sudo before every command
[18:22] <Daemoen> jd_tech, no, he was saying that he has to type it for *all* commands on his system to be able to use them
[18:23] <fusroda> but I like to use sudo before apt-get
[18:23] <Daemoen> which indicates a PATH issue :)
[18:23] <kadiro> jd_tech: that's a safe and good idea
[18:23] <Daemoen> lol NotANick
[18:23] <jd_tech> Daemoen, ummm, that's weird
[18:23] <OerHeks> jd_tech, kadiro WRONG idea, not a solution as we don't know what is going on
[18:24] <Daemoen> jd_tech, not if he created the user the *really* old way;  if he tried editing /etc/shadow, /etc/passwd/ and /etc/group manually, plus creating the home directory manually, all sorts of other steps have been overlooked
[18:24] <kadiro> OerHeks: he said do a sudo in every command is safe than to be root all the time
[18:24] <Daemoen> its not the *new* way of doing it, but back in the old days, it was how it had to be done none the less
[18:25] <fusroda> jd_tech, you are right
[18:25] <OerHeks> fusroda, see the Q from Gallomimia: how did you make that user? and " if mv/cp within the home folder need sudo, you did something wrong."
[18:25] <jd_tech> Daemoen, ah okay
[18:25] <jd_tech> theres an adduser command right?
[18:26] <jd_tech> much better
[18:26] <fusroda> yea
[18:26] <Daemoen> jd_tech, granted;  i think we are all making assumptions based on the vagueness of the issue, so it could be a number of things
[18:26] <jd_tech> Daemoen, true
[18:26] <Daemoen> you guys could be correct, it may be a perms issue on the home folder for instance;  or it could be a path issue, or any number of things XD
[18:26] <eipp0inter> hey.. anyone ever got to root a zenphone and install ubuntu on it?
[18:26] <jd_tech> Wow, this is the most serious IRC channel I 've been too :)
[18:26] <OerHeks> !phone | eipp0inter ask here
[18:27] <Gallomimia> that's exacly my point. get more information about this guy's problem before wildly giving him sudo commands to "fix" it
[18:27] <eipp0inter> thanks!
[18:27] <Daemoen> Gallomimia, i never gave a sudo command XD  lol
[18:27] <jd_tech> eipp0inter, isn't ubuntu x86, it won't run on ARM systems, unless you're talking about Touch
[18:27] <Daemoen> but point taken and agreed
[18:27] <Guest36153> hi guys
[18:28] <jd_tech> hi
[18:28] <OerHeks> !ot
[18:29] <Gallomimia> jd_tech: i'm pretty sure ubuntu runs on ARM systems. also, i'm pretty sure it's open sourced and you can compile it to any flavor CPU you want (but theres a lot avail already)
[18:30] <fusroda> I remember that I opened a config file or bash file and change value ask for sudo, unfortunately I dont remember where was it
[18:30] <jd_tech> well if you manage to get Qemu on a phone :P
[18:32] <OerHeks> fusroda, so you don't remember the 'sudo password´ which is not there, it is the pass of the 1st account created.
[18:32] <Gallomimia> fusroda: can you tell me what user you're logged in as, what user you made, and what files you're trying to manipulate?
[18:32] <Bluewolf> drkjstr: To answer your question. yes I did alter the colours using Tools --> Options --> Libre Office --> Appearance. But as you can see The window remains the same?
[18:32] <Gallomimia> sudo asks for YOUR password, not the root password like su. it only lets you do sudo stuff if you have been granted permissions by the sudoers config files.
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf  try changing the background and font colours
[18:34] <gartral> hey all, I just noticed that ubuntu 15.04 isn't downscaling my cpu's speed at idle... I have a 4790k
[18:34] <fusroda> OerHeks, I remember root password or my account password. just I dont want ubuntu to ask me for sudo everytime
[18:34] <kadiro> fusroda: sudo is needed to be safe
[18:35] <fusroda> good point
[18:35] <Bluewolf> MonkeyDust: I have managed to do everything other than the window, where do I change that, what's it under?
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> gartral  install indictor-cpufreq to set it to 'powersave'
[18:36] <fusroda> kadir I guess I was think about safe while changing that options
[18:36] <fusroda> maybe in sshd_config file
[18:36] <theTsar> theCzar: sup
[18:37] <thenewone> Hi guys i have a question why when i wanna add Arabic ( the 1 language ) i see Arabic ( Morocco ) but i see Berber thos are tow different languages but why Berber under Arabic name
[18:37] <fusroda> I closed root permission via sshd
[18:37] <kadiro> oh
[18:37] <thenewone> nice you will be safe and close v1 too
[18:37] <fusroda> thenewone, yea
[18:38] <thenewone> perfect
[18:38] <thenewone> Any answers guys ?? why Berber under Arabic name ?
[18:38] <thenewone> and there is no Arabic for Morocco
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf  right click on a Writer page ... Page... Background
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf  you can change the font color in the top icon bar
[18:40] <thenewone> ok No answer
[18:40] <thenewone> can i see that is Racist ?
[18:40] <thenewone> deleting a who language
[18:40] <thenewone> whole *
[18:41] <kadiro> what's the problem thenewone ?
[18:41] <thenewone> kadiro, when i wanna add arabic i see berber and those are different languages
[18:42] <thenewone> but in Morocco my country arabic is the 1 language i cant find it in keyboard options as language to add
[18:42] <kadiro> I have arabic in mine, but berber i never see it, i'm from algeria
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !arabic | thenewone
[18:42] <Bluewolf> MonkeyDust: Well that's one part, It does not do the whole writers page, but I know how to do that. As per my screen shot its the toolbar that's the confusing part.
[18:43] <thenewone> ubottu, i dont need ubuntu-arabic
[18:43] <thenewone> nice :D dump
[18:43] <kadiro> lol
[18:43] <thenewone> nice bot :D
[18:43] <thenewone> i like it
[18:43] <ioria> thenewone, have you tried System Settings -> Language Support ?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf  you're right, everything changes to high contrast, except that tool bar
[18:44] <thenewone> ioria, you are not bot either ?
[18:44] <kadiro> I'm not from ubuntu yet but i will check that when i buy my new ide cable
[18:44] <ioria> thenewone, ana bot
[18:44] <thenewone> ioria, :)
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> we are borg, you will be assimilated
[18:45] <thenewone> ioria, my question is why there is no arabic added by default as berber
[18:45] <thenewone> i know how to add arabic
[18:45] <kadiro> berber is different to arabic
[18:45] <Bluewolf> MonkeyDust: Haaa, thought I was going mad. Yeah it seems I can change everything else but that. It's annoying that the Dark Theme of Gnome does not change it, specially when I use LibreOffice a lot.
[18:45] <thenewone> but Morocco 1 language is Arabic why there is no arabic ?
[18:45] <wileee> thenewone, there are 400 languages spoken in nigeria, they are not all in ubuntu, do you get the message.
[18:45] <ioria> thenewone, if you go where i pointed and click 'Install' you'll arabic , you can choose it
[18:46] <ioria> *see
[18:46] <thenewone> wileee, I'm not talking about nigeria i'm talking about Morocco
[18:46] <thenewone> wileee, dont change the subject plz Morocco have tow langauge berber and arabic
[18:46] <thenewone> why arabic not like berber
[18:46] <kadiro> this is odd i'm algerian and i can see arabic in all linux distribution
[18:46] <thenewone> this stupid i dont belive you kadiro
[18:46] <bishops> Please can anyone tell me how I can fix gpg key error, and get the right key back for packages?
[18:47] <thenewone> because i'm not talking about other distros
[18:47] <kadiro> berber have a special letter not like arabic
[18:47] <thenewone> is that clean
[18:47] <wileee> thenewone, every language in the world is not in the repos, you are just spamming the channel now, you were given an arabic channel to ask in.
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf  is this useful  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1777206
[18:47] <showuni> Hello, I'm organizing a local Linux training for students using Ubuntu. I remember that few years ago it was possible to get free Ubuntu CD/DVDs (from canonical). I'm wondering if it's still possible today, or if there is any other option to organize some CDs/DVDs to my students. Thanks for help!
[18:47] <thenewone> how
[18:47] <thenewone> wileee, do look like i speak arabic in this channel to send to arabic channel ?
[18:48] <wileee> thenewone, Than your a troll, take it somewhere else
[18:48] <kadiro> i speak arabic and i know arabic, i see berber and it's not like arabic that's all
[18:48] <thenewone> wileee, i'm not troll i just wanna add arabic to Morocco as berber
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> thenewone  take the rant somewhere else please, we get the point... stick to trying to find a solution
[18:48] <thenewone> ok fucking racist distro
[18:49] <kadiro> be carefull thenewone
[18:49] <ioria> i didn't understand ...
[18:50] <kadiro> me too
[18:50] <wileee> don't feed the troll
[18:50] <pmenon> Hi all, I have a cluster of machines with the exact same hardware.  I want them all to boot off the _same_ ubuntu image.  Does anyone know how I can do this?
[18:50] <OerHeks> showuni, no, shipit has stopped. you can buy dvd's @ ubuntu store
[18:51] <ioria> pmenon, you could be interested in LTSP https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[18:52] <showuni> alright, thanks OerHeks
[18:53] <pmenon> ioria, LTSP is like a thin client right?  I want each machine to have it's own storage.
[18:54] <Bluewolf> MonkeyDust: This is all it did, http://imgur.com/hD8x1SM
[18:55] <BluesKaj> pmenon:  PXE install might work for you,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/339427/is-it-possible-to-install-ubuntu-through-network
[18:56] <ioria> pmenon, so look at Fat https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
[18:56] <OerHeks> LTSP user can have their own space indeed, lots of info on that page
[18:56] <pmenon> Yea, I was looking at fat client.
[18:56] <pmenon> Will check out LTSP too ...
[18:56] <ioria> pmenon, you need good hw on server
[18:56] <pmenon> ioria all the machines are beefy
[18:57] <ioria> pmenon, good
[18:57] <pmenon> It's just that I want to manage only one image and have each machine in cluster use that
[18:57] <pmenon> less work for me
[18:57] <ioria> pmenon, yep
[18:58] <ioria> pmenon, you could have some troubles with internet access from the clients ....   in this case take a look at dnsmask package
[19:02] <bishops> Please can anyone tell me how I can fix gpg key error, and get the right key back for packages?
[19:05] <Pici> !gpgerr | bishops
[19:05] <pbx> bishops, pastebin the command you're running and the  error you're getting
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> bishops  start from the beginning, what went wrong and what have you tried
[19:05] <OerHeks> bishops, i doubt the key is broken ( you would have a big issue then) .. most of the time your mirror is out of sync > change mirror .. else the lists are broken, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf # and update again
[19:06] <ioria> bishops, and take a look at   /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[19:06] <bishops> I must have added a package that then messed up with the keys, not sure why
[19:09] <bishops> so i tried sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key>
[19:09] <bishops> And nothing changed
[19:10] <Smokie> can anyone help me out on how to link /home/smokie/html to /var/www/html ?
[19:10] <popey> bishops: did you replace <key> with the actual key id?
[19:10] <OerHeks> bishops, key for what ppa/repo ?
[19:10] <bishops> yes of course :)
[19:10] <popey> Smokie: ln -s /var/www/html /home/smokie/html
[19:10] <bishops> I'm now removing the ppa for the missing key anyway I don't need it
[19:11] <Smokie> thanks popey
[19:12] <Smokie> popey, that didnt work.. do i have to sudo to do it?
[19:12] <tehcereal> Hello im having a problem to install ubuntu 14.04 on my new pc from a bootable usb. It just hangs and the monitor says no hdmi input. I tried setting nomodeset and disabled fast boot but nothing seems to work(MB Asrock h97 pro4, nvidia gtx970 if that matters)
[19:12] <tehcereal> installing*
[19:13] <tehcereal> I dont have windows instaled its a fresh pc.
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> tehcereal  how does the hdmi part come in?
[19:13] <notdaniel> tehcereal, not sure i'll be much help but i've had the exact issue on several machines
[19:13] <OerHeks> wow nice card man. that card is supported from 343.22 and up.
[19:14] <bishops> OerHeks: I'm not sure anymore, there seem to be 4 .gpg that get a "resource limit" message. not sure what that menas.
[19:14] <notdaniel> tehcereal, does the gpu have a vga port, or is the hdmi port possibly not the "primary" port? ive noticed that sometimes 14.04/15.10 are actually using the gpu, just attempting to use a different port
[19:14] <OerHeks> tehcereal, solution: at login, ctrl alt f2, login, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # and reboot
[19:14] <OerHeks> tehcereal, maybe you can do that blindfolded
[19:14] <tehcereal> notdaniel, it doesnt have a vga
[19:15] <notdaniel> tehcereal, try other outputs on the gpu. in my case it was a 980 i was using, so it might very well be a similar issue
[19:15] <tehcereal> and its a xeon so i dont have a on chip gpu
[19:15] <tehcereal> the problem is i dont have a monitor here with dvi nor display port
[19:16] <popey> Smokie: didn't work?
[19:16] <OerHeks> bishops, if those repo's are standard, the mirror is out of sync, try 'main'
[19:16] <bishops> OerHeks: not sure I understand
[19:16] <Smokie> popey, no
[19:16] <popey> Smokie: what happened?
[19:17] <bishops> OerHeks: This is what I get when i run sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12129935/
[19:18] <Smokie> popey, this happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/12129940/
[19:18] <popey> bishops: has it ever worked? what changed?
[19:18] <bishops> popey: no nothing changed
[19:18] <OerHeks> bishops, hmmm that is ugly, are you sure your system booted fine? not read only due to errors in the filesystem ?
[19:18] <bishops> I tried the usual command line to request gpg key but not working
[19:19] <bishops> OerHeks: no booted fine
[19:19] <mrnoone> is it ırc ?
[19:19] <mrnoone> yes it is ırc
[19:19] <OerHeks> can you"  touch <somefilename> "?
[19:19] <bishops> OerHeks: I'm not really sure why it started happening in the first place
[19:19] <mrnoone> its so cool
[19:19] <mrnoone> how can i change my volor
[19:20] <mrnoone> *color
[19:20] <mrnoone> is it changed
[19:20] <mrnoone> no
[19:20] <mrnoone> :(
[19:20] <Pici> mrnoone: text colors are blocked in this channel, also it is only for Ubuntu support, so if you are here just to chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic or see /msg alis help list  for searching for other channels
[19:21] <ioria> bishops, ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d ?
[19:21] <OerHeks> bishops, go into softwarecenter > edit > sources, and change the mirror/server to main and try again.
[19:22] <bishops> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12129973/
[19:22] <bishops> OerHeks: ok
[19:22] <OerHeks> oink ..never seen that much ppa's :-D
[19:23] <bishops> OerHeks: hahaha yeah I should delete!
[19:23] <ioria> bishops, take a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/511736/cannot-solve-gpg-error
[19:23] <OerHeks> bishops, yes, not delete, use ppa-purge
[19:23] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[19:23] <justatech> Dual booting ubuntu along with window but while at the time of partitoning it shows my entire hardisk unallocated
[19:24] <bishops> ioria: yes that's exactly the problem i have
[19:24]  * OerHeks examins those ppaś , maybe worth something looking in
[19:25] <Jumpman> Whenever I wake the computer from sleep the wifi takes a minute or two to connect instead of connecting immediately or already being connected. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I'm on xubuntu
[19:26] <bishops> OerHeks: I was wondering if there is a way to delete ppa and everything installed from it?
[19:26] <justatech> Any body faced this problem
[19:26] <ioria> bishops, to be honest... i really should have a good reason for use a ppa ... but it's my opinion
[19:27] <OerHeks> bishops, ppa-purge does that, removal and reversing to the original packages, if they exist
[19:27] <OerHeks> but with that many ppaś , good luck !
[19:27] <gr1zzlybe4r> why is apt-get update telling me that a ppa doesn't exist after I add it? I've posted my output here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333925/hbo-go-doesnt-work/663488#663488
[19:27] <justatech> Any body................plz plz
[19:28] <bishops> I think Y PPA manager is a good tool to just delete or clean up?
[19:28] <gr1zzlybe4r> I'm trying to install the `hal` package so that I can watch HBO go on my laptop.
[19:33] <xangua> gr1zzlybe4r: probably the PPA repository doesn't have packages for vivid, did you check it?
[19:33] <ioria> justatech, windows is in efi/gpt ? be use to select from bios  uefi usb
[19:34] <justatech> ioria wait let me check
[19:35] <gr1zzlybe4r> xangua: it looks like the most recent package is for 14.10. I guess that I should change the URL in my ppa list?
[19:35] <xangua> gr1zzlybe4r: no
[19:35] <OerHeks> 14.10 is EOL
[19:35] <gr1zzlybe4r> xangua: there's also 14.04
[19:36] <xangua> justatech: it means you should contact the PPA maintainer for problems with that specific PPA
[19:36] <xangua> Also that
[19:36] <gr1zzlybe4r> xangua: this URL: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mjblenner/hal-flash/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages -- seems to have the package that I'm looking for.
[19:36] <justatech> Yes
[19:36] <bishops> MY question is: Could I just delete .gpg files from          /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
[19:36] <xangua> !eol
[19:36] <bishops> MY question is: Could I just delete .gpg files from /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d, and let the update detect new ones? does this work?
[19:38] <AEL-H> What is the result if I have two different devices mounted to /?
[19:38] <Gallomimia> uh....... you don't.
[19:39] <OerHeks> AEL-H, only with LVM you can do that, i guess.
[19:39] <Gallomimia> not that i've ever tried it, but i don't believe you can mount two things to the same mount point
[19:39] <OerHeks> (correct me if i am wrong)
[19:39] <TJ-> AEL-H: the 2nd mounted device will mask the first, hiding it and all directories/files on it
[19:39] <Gallomimia> it's possible to mount one at a time and only use that one. but i've heard that really messes up any user settings kept in a common, separately mounted /home
[19:40] <OerHeks> bishops, no, it does not work that way, ubuntu does not auto fetch keys
[19:40] <bishops> It's Ok found the solution, thanks guys!
[19:40] <TJ-> You can mount as many devices as you want to a mountpoint - only the last one will be visible
[19:41] <bishops> OerHeks: all is good found a a solution
[19:41] <AEL-H> Basically my problem is I want more space in my root folder in order to install something, what other things should I look to do?
[19:41] <Gallomimia> TJ- that's a really interesting fact to know. can i then unmount them in any order and the top one on the stack will be the only one "there" ?
[19:42] <Gallomimia> um.... autoclean apt, remove things you don't need? reduce the number of installed languages?
[19:42] <TJ-> Gallomimia: I would assume so; I use the trick sometimes to hide default files in the lower file-system, as a safe fall back if the 'upper' mounts don't happen. For example, for /var/cache/
[19:42] <AEL-H> there isn't much room to remove what space is already used..
[19:43] <TJ-> AEL-H: the most common solution is create a new file system for /var/ and move everything from rootfs/var/ into it
[19:43] <Gallomimia> what sort of device are you mounting there now? can't you grow it?
[19:43] <UnPocoLoco> *Logged in recently*: apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean
[19:44] <TJ-> AEL-H: same goes for /home/ if that isn't already a separate file system
[19:44] <Gallomimia> unpocoloco i think you want apt-get autoclean not clean?
[19:45] <Gallomimia> also, before most any apt-get operations, you should do an update
[19:46] <justatech> ioria r u there
[19:46] <ioria> justatech, yes... what's wrong ?
[19:47] <justatech> Yes it is in ufie legacy
[19:47] <justatech> ioria
[19:49] <ioria> justatech, if you have win8 you're for sure gpt/efi... so install ubuntu in the same way ... selecting from bios efi/usb
[19:51] <ioria> justatech, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:52] <ga> Hello guys, I tried to install and run mumble-django. I was not even able to setup it properly. i even have problem to remvoe it now .... v
[19:52] <ga> http://pastebin.com/nTn6qGmC
[19:52] <ga> any help pls ? XD
[19:58] <AEL-H> Gallomimia: what does it mean to grow it?
[19:58] <TJ-> AEL-H: if there is spare space in the containing block device, it is usually possible to 'grow' the device to use some or all of the spare spce
[20:00] <AEL-H> TJ: Ah, there is no chance of that. Someone mentioned symbolic link.. but I was not entirely sure of this method, do you know what that might entail?
[20:02] <TJ-> AEL-H: I missed out on what devices you have available and what space they have, can you provide that info?
[20:03] <TJ-> AEL-H: it is possible use a symbolic link in one file-system pointing to a directory/file in another file-system. Think of it as a poor-man's mount
[20:03] <pbx> TJ-, what happens if you try it?
[20:03] <TJ-> pbx: what is "it"
[20:09] <pbx> TJ-, you're adking if it's possible to make a symlink pointing from one mount to another. have you tried it? what happened?
[20:09] <TJ-> pbx: I didn't ask that
[20:15] <pbx> TJ-, ok, so what is the connection between the two filesystems?
[20:16] <clark> Hello?
[20:17] <TJ-> pbx: I think you the wrong end of the stick; I was explaining it to AEL-H
[20:25] <Tebbo> https://youtu.be/IU7VTJA0dNo?t=18
[20:26] <k1l_> !ot | Tebbo
[20:26] <Tebbo> wrong chan
[20:27] <lickalott> so it seems that I am booting to 3.16 (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12130453/)  but it continues to drop into initramfs on initial boot.  I have to reboot 2 - 3 times before it drops into the actual log in screen.  This is after the unencryption authentication comes up
[20:27] <w2vy> Does Canonical provide Embedded Ubuntu for commerical applications? (or is this Offtopic?)
[20:29] <bitwiggler> getting a 404 on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-client_5.9p1-5ubuntu1.4_amd64.deb. refreshed all my lists and still keeps trying to get this
[20:30] <fillmorr> #ctrlh
[20:32] <TJ-> bitwiggler: "apt-get update" ... the package has been updated
[20:37] <jwhwv> Hey, I created a vpn connection to connect to a cisco openconnect vpn my buddy runs.  It's easy enough to tell my pc to connect to it from the nm-applet drop down in the standard unity desktop.  However, I usually use xfce.  I can't find anywhere to actually connect to the vpn (or any other network profiles) in its app menu.  The network and network connections only have host/route settings and the ability to
[20:37] <jwhwv> make profiles, not actually connect to them it seems.  O.o
[20:38] <theTsar> theCzar: hail
[20:38] <WiREdGh05T> hi
[20:38] <untrium> hi
[20:39] <theCzar> hello
[20:39] <untrium> what command do i have to use to look which power manager is active? like tlp or power-top?
[20:40] <untrium> i really want to use ubuntu mate now as my main system (dual booting win10) but i cant do that as long as my touchpad always goes into powersaving mode
[20:41] <WiREdGh05T> jezzz that could be hard to get untrium, i kant understand it
[20:41] <WiREdGh05T> tell me more in pvt about it if u wan
[20:42] <WiREdGh05T> Greeeeeeeeetings!!!!
[20:43] <untrium> did you get my message?
[20:44] <OerHeks> !pm
[20:44] <zerowaitstate> sounds like an irc bot to me
[20:44] <wileee> untrium, one issue at a time.
[20:44] <OerHeks> yes, ubottu is the official ubuntu bot
[20:44] <WiREdGh05T> how can I do if I do correct funcionality off jay ass? i want bubble loops please
[20:45] <Xovs> i have a question          i want to change my mac adress with macchanger over Terminal but it don`t work.......... what i make wrong?         1.ifconfig wlan down   2.macchanger -m 00.00....... wlan0     3. ifconfig wlan0 up                   can anyone help me?
[20:46] <k1l_> WiREdGh05T: come back when you are not drunk
[20:46] <WiREdGh05T> change distro
[20:46] <wileee> untrium, You testing a live at the moment, or this installed?
[20:46] <WiREdGh05T> kkk
[20:47] <untrium> installed
[20:48] <untrium> ubuntu mate 15.04
[20:48] <untrium> thinkpad s440
[20:49] <untrium> the touchpad only works after a short delay. i think it is in power saving mode, because after it is "activated" it works perfectly fine
[20:50] <wileee> untrium, Cool, so the primary issue is the tap pad going to power saving?  There are a number of wiki's, what is the computer model?
[20:51] <untrium> what do you mean by computer model?
[20:51] <TJ-> untrium: is it definitely power-saving? Could it be the touchpad disable that happens when keyboard typing is detected, to prevent stray cursor movement if your wrist brushes the touchpad?
[20:51] <untrium> i dont know if its a powersaving problem, that was merely guessed by me
[20:51] <TJ-> untrium: in other words does this occur at times when you are *not* using the keyboard?
[20:51] <untrium> it doesnt correlate with keyboard usage
[20:51] <untrium> yes it always happens
[20:52] <TJ-> untrium: OK, that helps narrow things down.
[20:52] <untrium> it doesnt happen if i have a usb mouse connected and used the usb mouse 1 sec before
[20:52] <TJ-> untrium: first thing is to discover how the touchpad is connected. It could be USB, or PS/2
[20:52] <wad> So I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. A few hours ago, I was trying to fix an issue (apt-get upgrade would hang on an initram step), and managed to toast my OS entirely. Now I've reinstalled. All hardware is identical, but for some reaosn, the second monitor won't wake up. It works fine, but Ubuntu isn't sending it a signal.
[20:52] <TJ-> untrium: can you "pastebinit <( lsusb )"
[20:52] <MadWasp> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup dual boot with windows 10 and ubuntu 14.04LTS but os-prober just doesn't find my windows 10 installation. can someone help me with that?
[20:53] <wad> Though the OS thinks it's there, the desktop extends over to it, but it refuses to come out of "power save mode". On boot, I see it showing the BIOS post screen, so I know it's fine.
[20:53] <wad> Ideas?
[20:53] <TJ-> wad: check "xrandr -q"  for output status
[20:53] <wad> ok
[20:53] <TJ-> wad:  could be the GPU is trying to set the monitor to a mode it does not support
[20:53] <untrium> http://pastebin.com/BhZa7MRB
[20:54] <TJ-> untrium: nothing obvious there for the touchpad
[20:55] <untrium> ok
[20:55] <TJ-> untrium: show us "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:56] <DammitJim> I created a startup script and put it in /etc/init.d
[20:56] <DammitJim> when I try to start it, I'm getting a: <service> is not installed
[20:56] <DammitJim> what does that mean?
[20:57] <untrium> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12130819/
[20:58] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[20:58] <OerHeks> DammitJim, might want to share what service?
[20:58] <DammitJim> it's a second instance of tomcat7
[20:58] <DammitJim> http://www.mycodingpains.com/how-to-install-multiple-instances-of-tomcat-on-a-single-ubuntu-server/
[20:59] <lickalott> i've been after this for weeks and I and I don't know where to go from here....   Are there any ubuntu masters around??   my initial boot drops me into busybox (initramfs).  I've updated the gran_size  and tried to force a younger/earlier kernel but it continues to do it.  To me, it looks like it was getting caught on my encrypted partition but I have yet to find a way to unencrypt fill disk encryption (seems easier to just reload).  Does
[20:59] <lickalott> anyone have any knowledge of this issue?
[20:59] <shandoox> Guys, is there any guide for increasing performance with open source driver?
[21:00] <untrium> TJ: did you get it?
[21:01] <TJ-> untrium: didn't get notified you'd pasted it because you didn't prefix with my nickname. looking now
[21:02] <untrium> TJ: sry, not used to irc
[21:02] <TJ-> untrium: so it is PS/2: "[   110.197] (II) config/udev: Adding input device TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint (/dev/input/mouse1)"
[21:02] <untrium> seeing it
[21:02] <untrium> TJ: seein it*
[21:03] <TJ-> untrium: oh and you also have "[   110.196] (II) config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/mouse0)"
[21:03] <TJ-> So, you have a tracpoint and a touchpad?
[21:03] <DammitJim> thanks
[21:03] <untrium> TJ: the trackpoint works without this "powersaving issue"
[21:03] <DammitJim> I figured it out... problem in my config
[21:04] <OpenSorce> 14.04 This keeps happening... after kernel upgrade laptop won't boot. Boots fine with previous kernel.
[21:04] <TJ-> untrium: that's fine, we're trying to identify the reports in the log that only apply to the touchpad
[21:04] <wad> Whoo, that was exciting, TJ. But now it's working! (Today I Learned: don't switch monitor cables all around with the system running.)
[21:04] <wileee> OpenSorce, keeps happening suggests you have fixed it?
[21:05] <lickalott> OpenSorce, was that a comment or a question?
[21:05] <untrium> TJ: [   110.196] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Ignoring device from InputClass "touchpad ignore duplicates"
[21:05] <lickalott> and are you saying that it boots into busybox?
[21:05] <OpenSorce> wileee, yeah I fixed it last time. Uninstalled and re-installed the kernel upgrade
[21:05] <untrium> TJ: something something wrong? maybe
[21:06] <OpenSorce> lickalott, a question. Should I rephrase it?
[21:06] <lickalott> no sir.  I wasn't sure if you were responding to my issue or discussing a similar issue.
[21:07] <lickalott> i keep droping into busybox on initial boot.  However, I am forcing it to boot on 3.16 and it is still happening.
[21:08] <TJ-> untrium: what is strange is, if it were USB I'd immediately suspect the USB port being put into power-save sleep... but that would be very unusual for a PS/2 port. The same port type the keyboard uses
[21:08] <OpenSorce> Just trying to figure out why it's doing it. Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't my wife's laptop :-P
[21:08] <lickalott> i'm at the point of trying a different distro
[21:08] <lickalott> i don't know what else to do.
[21:09] <OpenSorce> lickalott, there's not a better distro really, especially not if you are new
[21:09] <TJ-> OpenSorce: separate /boot/ file-system, running out of space, maybe?
[21:09] <lickalott> new to ubuntu (as a primary OS) not new to *nix
[21:10] <untrium> TJ: could it be something which seems for me to be a powersaving problem but is instead a poorly configuered touchpad? like the acclereation is set to a very low value, and it does max out, but before it maxes out i cant see a movement?
[21:10] <OpenSorce> TJ-, doubtful. Single partition 4% used
[21:10] <untrium> TJ: [   110.196] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration profile 1
[21:10] <untrium> [   110.196] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[21:10] <k1l_> lickalott: i am not the encryption guy, but without encyption i would have said to check if you got the right kernel and headers meta packages installed. (needed to build all the modules)
[21:10] <TJ-> lickalott: you have a LUKS-encrypted file-system for rootfs?
[21:10] <lickalott> I ran fedora for years (no issues) and BSD before that.
[21:10] <donjuan> Hello guys, I have a problem with Conky. It probably launches another instance of the program and then it looks horrible, overimposed. I seem to be able to replicate it when I hit my hotkey I set up for moc.
[21:10] <TJ-> OpenSorce: OK; that is the usual cause. "df -h" will show for certain
[21:10] <donjuan> How can I prevent it from happening?
[21:11] <untrium> TJ: also it adds the touchpad to /dev/input/event5 and /dev/input/mouse0
[21:11] <lickalott> TJ-,  it is full disk encryption (via initial setup) so I'd assume yes?
[21:11] <OpenSorce> TJ-, /dev/sda1       291G  9.4G  267G   4% /
[21:11] <wad> This system has an nvidia video card. Right now it seems to be using the (very slow) default drivers. I think before it was running noveau drivers. In the pass, I've messed with NVidia proprietary drivers, and I never got them to work.
[21:11] <lickalott> k1l_, how would I verify?
[21:12] <lickalott> k1l_, whats the latest kernel package for 14.04?
[21:12] <k1l_> lickalott: you can boot that system with a specific kernel? than check with "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" what packages are installed
[21:12] <lickalott> *if you know
[21:13] <compdoc> whats the best way to encript an existing directory? the directory is actually a drive thats mounted to /
[21:13] <k1l_> lickalott: depends on what enablement stack you run.
[21:13] <k1l_> lickalott: there is a 3.13, a 3.16 and a 3.19 one. the 3.16 is the 14.10 backports, and the 3.19 is the 15.04 backports branch
[21:14] <lickalott> hows 3.16.0-46.42 k1l_
[21:14] <untrium> compdoc: backup the whole drive, then use dd to fill the drive with random numbers and after that use luks to encrypt the drive
[21:14] <lickalott> but the generic linux kernel image shows 3.16.0.46.37
[21:14] <TJ-> untrium: I'm not sure without seeing it for myself. There's some possible hints/clues/tests you can do from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:16] <lickalott> k1l_, first message /hows/shows
[21:16] <TJ-> OpenSorce: is the system booted with a good kernel? Take a look at the installed kernels and supporting initrd.img files, see if the sizes look 'wrong' compared to others: list most recent first with: "ls -latr /boot/"
[21:18] <k1l_> lickalott: linux-generic-lts-utopic would be the meta package for that 3.16 kernel branch
[21:19] <TJ-> lickalott: if you have full disk encryption the 'cryptsetup' tool will be installed in the initrd. In addition "/conf/conf.d/cryptroot" will contain the rootfs entry from the system's "/etc/crypttab"
[21:19] <lickalott> TJ-, k1l_ I am leaning towards the LUKS encryption being an issue (based on log research, etc...)  It seems to me it's timing out.  At times I don't even see the grub  menu to choose "advanced options" or the like.
[21:19] <OpenSorce> TJ-, it's running on 3.13.0-61 which has an initrd.img of 18767747 the one that won't boot 3.13.0-62 is 18766663. That looks about right.
[21:19] <TJ-> lickalott: you can check for those from busybox
[21:19] <untrium> TJ: i used xinput --test 10 (device number of the touchpad is 10) and found something odd. the "powersaving" issue is very strong if i move the horizontally and is weak, meaning it doesnt take long to activate the touchpad, if i move vertical
[21:19] <lickalott> TJ-, am I looking for something specific there?
[21:20] <TJ-> OpenSorce: I agree. Have you tried booting using the "Recovery" option on the "Advanced" menu from GRUB's boot manager menu (hold down shift at boot-time) ?
[21:20] <TJ-> lickalott: well, first of all, ensure those are there and the cryptroot file has something sensible in it
[21:20] <OpenSorce> TJ-, yeah same result. Right back to system boot screen and to the grub menu :-(
[21:21] <lickalott> TJ-, (/etc/crypttab) sda5_crypt UUID=e395c3fa-5e1c-4ecd-ade7-b924e20a17a2 none luks,discard
[21:21] <TJ-> untrium: that is a clue for sure... not sure what it tells us though!
[21:22] <OpenSorce> TJ-, and don't get me wrong... I can fix it. I use remove the new kernel and everything related and re-install it like last time. Just wanted to figure out why this has happened three times and how to correct it.
[21:23] <OpenSorce> s/use/can
[21:23] <ash_work> this is driving me crazy; are there shortcut command equivalents to dragging a window directly up, left, right etc? (ie: on Windows it's windows_key + arrow)
[21:23] <untrium> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131088/ does this help? xinput list
[21:24] <TJ-> lickalott: right, but you also need to check what is in the initrd.img. Identify which one is in use ("ls /boot/initrd.img*") then extract its contents so you can check them: "mkdir /tmp/initrd && cd /tmp/intrd && zcat /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION | cpio -id" then take a look in "conf/conf.d/"
[21:24] <ash_work> also, I can't stand alt+tab and waiting for a group of windows to expand... I'm sure there is a better way to access it... but clearly its not like ctrl+alt+tab or something
[21:24] <lickalott> all from busybox through right TJ-  or can I do that right now?
[21:24] <TJ-> OpenSorce: it sounds like the kernel image somehow gets corrupted first time around, doesn't it?
[21:25] <donjuan> ash: ctrl+alt+number of position and alt+; to go through different windows of one program
[21:25] <TJ-> lickalott: those instructions I just gave can be done from the booted system. They replicate what you'd see if dumped to Busybox
[21:25] <OpenSorce> TJ-, exactly... I blame pintrest!
[21:25] <lickalott> copy all.  thanks sir!
[21:25] <TJ-> lickalott: there's a file-system inside initrd.img ... those instructions extract it into /tmp/initrd/
[21:26] <OpenSorce> TJ-, lol, j/k okay. I'll fix it and tell her to let me know the next time it asks for updates
[21:26] <TJ-> OpenSorce: I think your best chance of figuring this out is next time a kernel upgrade is available, do it from the command-line and check for any errors reported from the update-initramfs and/or update-grub steps. You could even repeat those manually
[21:27] <TJ-> OpenSorce: as in do "sudo update-initramfs -u"  and "sudo update-grub"
[21:27] <OpenSorce> TJ-, yeah that's what I'm thinking
[21:27] <TJ-> OpenSorce:  if GRUB seems to try to load vmlinux but then you get returned to the GRUB menu without the system crashing and rebooting... that tells us GRUB cannot find the kernel filename it is told
[21:28] <OpenSorce> TJ-, I'm from Slackware... I'm used to manual :-P
[21:28] <TJ-> OpenSorce: if however GRUB loads a kernel which crashes and causes a reboot, then that tells us the kernel image is corrupted
[21:28] <OpenSorce> TJ-, yep
[21:29] <keviv> Any ideas why having terminal=false makes matlab fail to launch after a couple of seconds on the splash screen, but terminal=true works fine? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/Z7q2wf3Uc9zEJfeNQTbw/
[21:31] <robert45> hi guys, I believe my software RAID died, can someone help me how to diagnose if the drive is completely dead? This is the mdadm output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131170/
[21:31] <OpenSorce> TJ-, thanks for the help
[21:32] <TJ-> robert45: " 1       8       32        -      faulty spare   /dev/sdc"
[21:32] <robert45> TJ- yes, but does that entirely mean the drive is dying? I couldnt issue a smartctl to confirm this, not sure if its related
[21:32] <lickalott> TJ-,  first off I appreciate your time/assistance
[21:33] <lickalott> here is from conf.d - target=sda5_crypt,source=UUID=e395c3fa-5e1c-4ecd-ade7-b924e20a17a2,key=none,rootdev,lvm=ubuntu--vg-root,discard
[21:33] <lickalott> target=sda5_crypt,source=UUID=e395c3fa-5e1c-4ecd-ade7-b924e20a17a2,key=none,lvm=ubuntu--vg-swap_1,discard
[21:33] <TJ-> robert45: your kernel log errors show the device's first and last sector fail to be read, which suggests total device failure - unless there's a cables/controller issue
[21:33] <lickalott> here is from /etc/crypttab - sda5_crypt UUID=e395c3fa-5e1c-4ecd-ade7-b924e20a17a2 none luks,discard
[21:33] <lickalott> neither match
[21:33] <lickalott> *completely
[21:33] <TJ-> lickalott: hang on... that looks like cryptroot has 2 entries for the same device?
[21:34] <lickalott> yes sir
[21:34] <TJ-> lickalott: don't worry about the different syntax between the 2 files - someone thought that was a bright idea! The values are the important part and they match
[21:34] <k1l_> keviv: see if that helps:; http://askubuntu.com/a/141508/31260
[21:34] <lickalott> one shows swap and the other shows root
[21:34] <robert45> TJ- I see, thanks. So basically I need to do 1) "mdadm --remove faulty" 2) shutdown the server and replace the drive 3) re-add the drive after reboot, is that correct?
[21:35] <TJ-> lickalott: in cryptroot (from the initrd/conf/conf.d/cryptroot) there should only 1 entry... did you just show me there are 2 or was that a paste error?
[21:36] <TJ-> robert45: You've got it :)
[21:36] <untrium> -xinput watch-probs <touchpad id> doesnt work
[21:36] <untrium> sry for spamming, i have this problem now for 1-2 weeks and cant work with ubuntu mate unless this is solved
[21:36] <untrium> and i really dont want to go back to the botnet
[21:36] <lickalott> that was a direct copy and paste from the output in my terminal.
[21:36] <TJ-> lickalott: OK... just to avoid doubt on my part, can you put the contents of both files in a pastebin?
[21:36] <lickalott> after I followed the instructions you provided.  I did a more cryptroot
[21:36] <TJ-> !paste | lickalott
[21:36] <lickalott> absolutly
[21:37] <TJ-> lickalott: thanks :)
[21:37] <robert45> TJ- thanks man, you rock!
[21:37] <ghoti> Why does `date -d '00:00:00 -9 seconds' '+%H:%M:%S'` return 05:00:01 instead of 23:59:01?
[21:37] <TJ-> untrium: I'm sorry I can't be more help... usually I can think of something but I think my brain is fried right now
[21:37] <ghoti> Or alternately, what --date format can I use to subtract N seconds from a time in %H:%M:%S format?
[21:37] <lickalott> TJ-,  http://pastebin.com/Kp6wm883
[21:38] <untrium> can you advice a channel which could help?
[21:40] <lickalott> untrium, whats your issue?  mousepad won't work?
[21:40] <TJ-> lickalott: OK, having 2 lines in cryptroot is definitely wrong and is likely the cause of your issue. So, we need to find out why, which means testing the scripts that write that file
[21:40]  * lickalott is ready
[21:40] <TJ-> untrium: I think this is likely the best channel, because so many people use it
[21:41] <TJ-> lickalott: are you familiar with how the initrd.img is created?
[21:41] <lickalott> no sir
[21:41] <untrium> lickalott: mousepad works, but it has a short delay till i can use it
[21:41] <untrium> TJ: ok, thank you
[21:41] <lickalott> after boot up or after you touch it?
[21:43] <TJ-> lickalott: OK... bit of background. When a kernel is installed, or some change that affects boot-time kernel config is made, the command "update-initramfs" is executed. It calls 'hook' scripts installed by things like cryptsetup, which in turn generate/copy files to be included in the initrd, which update-initramfs wrap into a mini-filesystem inside /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION
[21:43] <TJ-> lickalott: We can run update-initramfs manually in 'verbose' mode so it tells us what it is doing, and examine that to see if it gives clues. This command will capture the output to a log file which you can put in a pastebin:
[21:44] <TJ-> lickalott: "sudo update-initramfs -u -k $(uname -r) |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"  ... when it is done you can paste it using "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"
[21:44] <lickalott> ok
[21:45] <TJ-> untrium: I still wonder if it is the keyboard disable functionality causing this... worth checking if that setting still exists in the control panel for the touchpad
[21:46] <TJ-> lickalott: hang on! I got that command wrong... there won't be output!!
[21:46] <TJ-> lickalott: Let's add -v so we get verbose output! "sudo update-initramfs -vu -k $(uname -r) |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"  ... when it is done you can paste it using "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"
[21:47] <lickalott> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131332/
[21:47] <TJ-> lickalott: mmmm data :)
[21:47] <lickalott> lol
[21:48] <lickalott> in assuming that we'd be looking for SATA controller module issues or kernel issues, would I be wrong?
[21:49] <goddard> how can i install a newer kernel?
[21:49] <goddard> or at least get newer drivers
[21:49] <untrium> TJ: i disabled the touchpad-keyboard option in the control panel. same as before
[21:49] <goddard> version 3.1 is super old
[21:49] <TJ-> lickalott: line 598 onwards show what I'd expect to see "Calling hook cryptroot"
[21:49] <bekks> goddard: Newer drivers for what?
[21:49] <goddard> bekks: my trackpad
[21:49] <TJ-> untrium: that rules that out then, one would think
[21:49] <bekks> goddard: Whats the output of "uname -a"?
[21:49] <goddard> bekks: i have a 2015 razer blade and I have no gesture support
[21:50] <goddard> 3.19.0-26-generic
[21:50] <bekks> goddard: Thats version 3.19.0-26, not 3.1 :)
[21:50] <goddard> bekks: still old
[21:50] <goddard> bekks: version 4 is out and stable
[21:51] <boze> I'm setting up a new web dev environment. It's easy enough to run apache on ssd and point to files on a rotational drive, but I can't seem to find a good resource on doing so with mysql. is it possible to run mysql on ssd and keep the databases on another drive?
[21:51] <goddard> bekks: it also supports my trackpad
[21:51] <TJ-> lickalott: In theory the new initrd.img should have a cryptroot with only one line in it, but I want to expand the output from update-initramfs first, to be sure what is going on
[21:52] <IchEsseDichAuf> how to start a network isolated shell?
[21:52] <bekks> goddard: Ubuntu isnt a distro which will ship the latest and greatest all the time.
[21:52] <k1l_> goddard: 3.1 is not the same as 3.19
[21:52] <goddard> k1l_: thanks for pointing that out a second time it was a typo
[21:52] <goddard> bekks: still how can I fix my touchpad issue?
[21:53] <k1l_> goddard: due to the release system (with the freeze date prior to the release date) a 4.x kernel will first be running in 15.10
[21:53] <TJ-> lickalott: I'm testing it here to be sure the changes give me what I need
[21:53] <goddard> k1l_: thats good
[21:53] <clemente> ciao
[21:53] <goddard> k1l_: so I have to wait a few more months until I can get this touchpad working?
[21:53] <clemente> c'è qualche italiano?
[21:54] <bekks> goddard: You need some userland software like touchegg, not a new kernel.
[21:54] <lickalott> TJ-, still two entries on my side.
[21:54] <bekks> !it | clemente
[21:54] <OerHeks> !it | clemente
[21:54] <goddard> bekks: how do you know that?
[21:54] <TJ-> lickalott: right. I've got a change you can make so we can capture what the script is doing
[21:54] <bekks> goddard: By a 10s google journey, for finding out wether touchpad gesture support is provided by the kernel at all.
[21:55] <k1l_> goddard: in here we support what is officially released by ubuntu. so yes. you could try the 15.10 alpha or try a !mainline kernel or compile the module for the touchpad yourself or see if there is already a package solving that issue
[21:55] <clemente> thank you
[21:55] <lickalott> this system has only been up for a month-ish.  Would it just be easier to rebuild with no encryption?
[21:55] <TJ-> lickalott: before that, can you "pastebinit /etc/fstab" ?
[21:55] <lickalott> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131401/
[21:55] <TJ-> lickalott: you may have found a bug... it would be better to be sure why it happens. I've used FDE for several years and never seen this
[21:55] <goddard> bekks: so I am so stupid I can't do a google search? thanks appreciate the soft insult
[21:56] <bekks> goddard: No one said you are stupid or anything like that. _I_ googled it, since _I_ didnt know which component provides the functionality in question.
[21:56] <goddard> k1l_: thats great and I don't mind waiting, but I would like to be able to get it working for me now
[21:57] <goddard> k1l_: how do I find out what part of the new kernel makes it work and put that into my system now?  I am not a linux developer I am just a user
[21:57] <OerHeks> goddard, what laptop exactly?
[21:57] <k1l_> goddard: before something is "in" the kernel there it is already "there"
[21:57] <goddard> Razer Blade 2015
[21:57] <bekks> goddard: And if you feel yourself being insulted by other people googling for THEIR knowledge, I really feel sorry for you, and will not trying to help you, for not insulting in any way.
[21:57] <TJ-> lickalott: Are you comfortable using a terminal text editor, or do you prefer GUI? We need to add a line to a system script
[21:58] <lickalott> im good cli
[21:58] <lickalott> *with
[21:58] <goddard> bekks: i never insulted you I just wanted help to fix the issue not learn how knowledge everyone else is
[21:59] <OerHeks> goddard, ah, a fresh machine, you might be right and try a newer kernel from the mainline ppa .. i noticed this page some days ago ( not for myself)  https://alexcabal.com/get-a-working-touchpad-on-a-14-razer-blade-running-linuxubuntu/
[21:59] <lickalott> TJ-, I have a telecon at 3 my time so if I become quiet or untimely, thats why.
[21:59] <OerHeks> !mainline
[21:59] <hydrozen> hey, I’ve got ubuntu 12.04 running on AWS, and for some reason .bashrc is not executed on login. I checked and I have what seems to be the correct .profile file but it seems that this might not be loaded too. Anybody has any idea how this could be?
[22:00] <goddard> OerHeks: thanks
[22:00] <TJ-> lickalott: OK. which ever your preferred text editor is. I prefer vim, so I'd do "sudo vim /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot" move to the 2nd line (which is blank) add add "set -x" by pressing I to insert mode, typing the text, then Esc to get back to command mode, then :wq
[22:00] <bekks> goddard: I did not say you insulted me, you said I insulted you, which I didnt. Now lets move on.
[22:00] <OerHeks> goddard, v4.1-rc2-vivid would be the latest
[22:00] <TJ-> lickalott: you'll end up with 3 lines with #!/bin/sh    set -x    PREREQ=""
[22:01] <lickalott> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131428/
[22:01] <TJ-> lickalott: perfect! now lets capture another log
[22:02] <TJ-> lickalott:  "sudo update-initramfs -vu -k $(uname -r) |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"  ... when it is done you can paste it using "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"
[22:02] <TJ-> lickalott: now the cryptroot shell script will output every line it executes. That will show how it is putting 2 lines into cryptroot
[22:03] <kadiro> an error occured please try again ( youtube flashplayer )
[22:04] <lickalott> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131444/
[22:04] <TJ-> lickalott: great, lines 602 onwards are what we want
[22:06] <lickalott> TJ-, I failed spanish in highschool....  :D
[22:07] <TJ-> lickalott: :) ... line 785 is writing a line to cryptroot, you should recognise that. This line includes 'rootdev'
[22:08] <TJ-> lickalott: and the bad line is at 2333
[22:09] <TJ-> lickalott: which Ubuntu release is that you are using ("lsb_release -r") ?
[22:09] <lickalott> so the vg-swap being added is causing the issues?
[22:09] <lickalott> 14.04
[22:10] <lickalott> i don't show a swap in df -h
[22:10] <lickalott> ^ not sure if that means anything
[22:10] <TJ-> lickalott: yes, because the target= entry is the /dev/mapper/XXXX filename to put the encrypted device on... which looks like rootfs gets mounted to /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt and then it goes and puts swap there as well, or some such. Whatever it does, swap should NOT be in the cryptroot in initrd.img, so there is a bug somewhere
[22:11] <lickalott> i don't like being "the bug guy"
[22:11]  * lickalott sighs
[22:11] <TJ-> lickalott: can you show me "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk -f )"
[22:12] <lickalott> so submit the bug and rebuild?  SHould I try again with LUKS or try without it.
[22:12] <lickalott> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131489/
[22:12] <TJ-> lickalott: I use 14.04 with very complex LUKS configs and never had this happen. It is certainly not something I've ever seen for a default FDE install either.
[22:13] <TJ-> lickalott: WOW! that is amazing, never seen that before! sda5_crypt has 2 devices on it
[22:14] <TJ-> lickalott: now show me "pastebinit <( sudo blkid )" please
[22:14] <lickalott> k...so  newb when it comes to submitting bugs.
[22:14] <lickalott> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131496/  *note* elements is an external
[22:15] <TJ-> lickalott: It's weird. I can figure out what it is doing, and even almost why it might make the mistake, but not sure how it would happen in practice!
[22:15] <lickalott> dude i've been fighting this for weeks.
[22:16] <lickalott> i just kept ctrl-alt-del until it would give me the grub menu.
[22:16] <TJ-> lickalott: summary: encrypted partition /dev/sda5, contains LVM VG ubuntu, which has 2 LVs vg-root and vg-swap_1.
[22:16] <lickalott> right
[22:16] <TJ-> lickalott: let me do a launchpad bug search - surely this has been reported before!
[22:17] <lickalott> i'll keep everything up/ready in case.
[22:18] <TJ-> lickalott: I'm looking through this list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup
[22:20] <surgy> hello
[22:22] <kadiro> an error occured please try again ( youtube flashplayer )
[22:22] <OerHeks> kadiro, that is pretty normal these days
[22:22] <surgy> i runniing ubuntu gnome 14.04 kernal 3.19 and when i go to >> system settings > displays and set my monitors up (the left monitor should be set as the left monitor) and then i reboot my computer the settings revert and the left monitor is set as the right monitor again. how do i make my settings persistent?
[22:22] <kadiro> OerHeks: that's happen to you too?
[22:23] <OerHeks> sure, a lot of times, not on youtube though
[22:23] <kadiro> OerHeks: thank you man i'm thinking is only for me especially this day not before
[22:24] <kadiro> I will try to see the same video over vlc may be that fix it
[22:24] <sonicx> I need help on my network card
[22:24] <TJ-> lickalott: nothing obvious there. I'll work back through the initrd.img log you captured
[22:26] <UnPocoLoco> sonicx, why?
[22:26] <kadiro> same think throught vlc, what's happen
[22:27] <k1l_> kadiro: bad flash file
[22:27] <kadiro> k1l_: I have ppepper installed
[22:27] <k1l_> i am talking baout your video
[22:27] <k1l_> *about
[22:28] <kadiro> from a link?
[22:28] <catalase> how do you search a file for matches then output that data to a file?
[22:28] <sonicx> well I try ed zorin and it would not  work and now I'm trying xubuntu same thing it said it is working  but it is not
[22:28] <catalase> can you simply grep <term> <filename> | cat <filename>
[22:29] <k1l_> catalase: cat only displays
[22:29] <k1l_> catalase: grep ... ... > textfile
[22:29] <catalase> can you simply grep <term> <filename> | cat > <filename>
[22:29] <bekks> catalase: grep term filename > resultfile
[22:32] <TJ-> lickalott: OK, I've figured out why it is there.
[22:34] <sonicx> I need help on my network card it will not turn on  it works in windows 7 but no xubuntu
[22:34] <sonicx> not
[22:34] <k1l_> sonicx: what card is it? can you pastebin a "lspci" output?
[22:35] <kadiro> when trying to see the same video from vlc not loaded from youtube that said: VLC ne peut pas ouvrir « http://r13---sn-hgn7zn7z.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?sver=3&lmt=1342366482834840&initcwndbps=125000&sparams=dur%2Cid%2Cinitcwndbps%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Clmt%2Cmime%2Cmm%2Cmn%2Cms%2Cmv%2Cpl%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&expire=1440044758&source=youtube&ratebypass=yes&ipbits=0&upn=swB31j89AlE&pl=18&mn=sn-hgn7zn7z&mm=31&dur=0.000&id=o-
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[22:35] <sonicx> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[22:35] <vkay1> wtf
[22:36] <k1l_> kadiro: youtube? that uses html5 for most videos now
[22:36] <k1l_> sonicx: and now please "uname -a"
[22:36] <k1l_> sonicx: and then please a "rfkill list" in a pastebin
[22:37] <k1l_> !paste | sonicx
[22:37] <kadiro> k1l_: html5 use 360 and more, my internet is very slow for that i choose flash no choice
[22:38] <kadiro> i can read 144 this will be fast
[22:38] <Raziel86> Can someone help me get my mom's ethernet working? When she types ifconfig -a this is all that shows up http://pastebin.com/0ZHtjDg6
[22:40] <sonicx> http://pastebin.com/ZD8imkfA
[22:41] <Raziel86> anyone there
[22:41] <digitalgalaxy_> I'm here
[22:41] <digitalgalaxy_> an ethernet problem?
[22:41] <Raziel86> yessir
[22:42] <UnPocoLoco> ifconfig eth0 up
[22:42] <UnPocoLoco> or ifup eth0?
[22:42] <sonicx>  and wireless  by the way
[22:42] <Raziel86> That gives the error no such device
[22:42] <Raziel86> wireless doesn't work either
[22:42] <UnPocoLoco> yeah, it looks strange.
[22:43] <digitalgalaxy_> ok, there's our problem.  Is this a homebrew computer or a store bought one?
[22:43] <Raziel86> Store bought. It's an old inspiron
[22:43] <digitalgalaxy_> inspiron model number?
[22:44] <TJ-> Raziel86: usually a desktop system is configured using the GUI interface to Network Manager.
[22:44] <wileee> !who | sonicx
[22:44] <k1l_> !bcm43xx | sonicx
[22:44] <UnPocoLoco> Raziel86, Ah. nvm. Didn't see your "-a" there. I dunno. network card loose?
[22:44] <TJ-> Raziel86: "lscpi -nn" will list all PCI devices, and from that you should be able to identify the network device(s)
[22:44] <k1l_> sonicx: see if that help pages helps you. seems like its still loading the "wrong" driver by default for that cards
[22:45] <Raziel86> TJ- just a second
[22:45] <TJ-> Raziel86: my typos! try "lspci -nn"  :D
[22:45] <sonicx> ok thx u I will look at it n now :)
[22:46] <Raziel86> Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0
[22:46] <NGC3982> I use album (the software) on http://bilder.henjoh.se/ to show pictures. I notice that the added pictures does not update new pictures automaticly. Does Album support this?
[22:46] <NGC3982> Also: http://skarmdump.henjoh.se/
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[22:47] <TJ-> Raziel86: can you tell us the PCI device ID from the end of the lines, contain in square brackets e.g. [8086:1234]
[22:47] <OneM_Industries> How do I stop shotwell from coming up automatically when I put an sd card in my computer?
[22:48] <baywords> Okay Ubuntu.. I miss you  OS  :(  but this question is about  ps4.. Does anyone know of a populated irc channel  that deals with inquires  about custom firmware  exploit  development...?
[22:49] <Raziel86> TJ- [14e4:170c] (rev 2)
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> baywords  type /msg alis list blah
[22:49] <TJ-> Raziel86: I've read notes that in some circumstances installing the wifi drivers can disable the wired BCM4401. Can you check with "grep b44 /etc/modprobe.d/*" and telling us any lines that are reported
[22:49] <k1l_> !alis | baywords if that is fine for the freenode policy anyway
[22:51] <TJ-> Raziel86: you can also directly check if the b44 driver is loaded, to manage the BCM4401, using "lspci -k -d 14e4:170c" ... you should get a "Kernel driver in use: b44" line
[22:51] <baywords> "Blah" would be what?   My irc "coding"  is so rusty Tis forgotten..  I'll have to keep trying to enter that run  prompt  correctly..
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> baywords  blah is whatever you're looking for
[22:53] <baywords> Do I type it in here  on in the main window?
[22:53] <baywords> I forget..
[22:53] <baywords> Or* im
[22:53] <baywords> In*..  Damn it
[22:54] <kadiro> in freenode
[22:54] <Raziel86> TJ- Yeah we did grept b44 * while in modprobe.d and got the following. http://pastebin.com/LVMZ8VxD
[22:56] <digitalgalaxy_> -Raziel86 That sounds a lot like what TJ was talking about.  Check this link here for more info, at least what I found:
[22:56] <Raziel86> TJ- we tried deleting blacklist-bcm43.conf and it says no such file or directory.
[22:56] <digitalgalaxy_> askubuntu.com/questions/14970/broadcom-bcm4401-b0-100base-tx-issues
[22:57] <TJ-> Raziel86: "sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf"
[22:58] <TJ-> Raziel86: you can then manually load the module with "sudo modprobe b44"
[22:58] <Raziel86> TJ- we tried that and it says no such file or directory when trying to remove that file
[22:58] <TJ-> Raziel86: you must have mistyped. grep clearly shows the filename
[22:59] <digitalgalaxy_> Razile86- it looks like that link says to comment out a blacklist line, rather than delete a blacklist.conf file.  It might just be in a different file in your distro or version.  What's your ubuntu version raziel86?
[22:59] <Raziel86> TJ- I had to go into /etc/modprobe.d and I had her do ls -a and it's not in there.
[22:59] <baywords>  Hey..  msg alis  list  playstation4 says there are 60 channels.  But doesn't name them. How do I get the list?
[22:59] <Raziel86> It's actually mint 17.2
[23:00] <TJ-> Raziel86: Then the file has been deleted already. If so, do "sudo modprobe b44" and that should load the module
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> baywords  ask in #freenode
[23:00] <digitalgalaxy_> aha!  The culprit!  :)
[23:00] <Raziel86> When she does that it just stays on that line and never returns to another line
[23:00] <Raziel86> TJ- ^
[23:00] <TJ-> Raziel86: aha... OK... so there's a bigger problem here!
[23:01] <_jlove> Anyone here used canonical’s cloud-init (mostly via AWS EC2) before? Having some weirdness with packages installing
[23:01] <TJ-> Raziel86: does Ctrl+C get back to the prompt?
[23:01] <kadiro> baywords: add " / " before msg
[23:02] <Raziel86> Yes it does
[23:02] <ash_work> how do you access the grub menu on startup? I was told to hold shift but also that the grub menu wont appear if there are not multiple OSes on the machine
[23:02] <ash_work> I want to add nomodeset to the grub menu
[23:02] <columbobaas> just press arrow buttons
[23:03] <Raziel86> TJ- If the file has been deleted how come it still shows up when we grep 44 *
[23:03] <TJ-> Raziel86: good. I *think* the install of the b43 broadcom driver has messed things up
[23:03] <ash_work> columbobaas: thanks
[23:03] <Raziel86> We uninstalled sta
[23:03] <lickalott> sorry TJ-  I'm back
[23:03] <ash_work> also, where are you supposed to add acpi_osi= ?
[23:03] <TJ-> Raziel86: that depends if you used the command *exactly* as I wrote it
[23:04] <TJ-> ash_work: to the kernel command line ("linux ....")  in the grub boot menu
[23:04] <wbill> anybody have any recent 15.? version documents for installing a full version of ubuntu on a usb drive for a mac while on a mac?
[23:04] <Raziel86> We were never able to delete it. It says it doesn't exist when we try to delete it. It doesn't show in the directory only in grep
[23:04] <wileee> ash_work, arrpw buttons are when you get to the grub edit, try esc or shift when powering on, test the commands for now.
[23:05] <TJ-> lickalott: I figured out why the 2 entries get put in cryptroot. It's because both are inside the crypted device. However, the swap doesn't need to be available at initrd time so it is a definite bug for it being there
[23:05] <ash_work> TJ-: behind linux... like acpi_osi=linux /boot/vmlinuz-... ro      quiet splash nomodeset
[23:06] <TJ-> lickalott: What I propose you do, as a test, is to manually edit cryptroot so it only has the rootdev line, rebuild the initrd.img and try booting with it. If that works we know that was the problem. If it doesn't work, we know that is incidental and something else is wrong
[23:06] <TJ-> ash_work: preferably at the end of the existing options, not at the start of the line
[23:06] <Raziel86> TJ- thank you for helping out. She has to leave. I may be on later.
[23:07] <ash_work> TJ-: so linux /boot/vmlinuz-... ro      quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi
[23:07] <ash_work> TJ-: so linux /boot/vmlinuz-... ro      quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi= *
[23:07] <TJ-> ash_work: correct
[23:07] <ash_work> TJ-: thanks!
[23:08] <TechMonger> my desktop has ports for sdcards. i installed a sdcard. it shows up in disk anylizer and fdisk but its not in my media dir
[23:08] <TechMonger> it says contents are unknown 0.o
[23:08] <lickalott> TJ-,  i gotta blast.  Can you do me a huge favor?  I only captured (in a document) the process to extract the .img (conf/conf.d)  Can you copy and paste the initrd.log line for me and I will try to manually edit later?
[23:08] <kadiro> ash_work: and to see what exactelly happen when trying nomodest try to remove quiet splash
[23:08] <TJ-> lickalott: edit the cryptroot file where you extracted it ("/tmp/initrd/conf/conf.d/cryptroot") then ensure you're in the directory /tmp/initrd/ and do "find . | cpio -o -H newc | gzip > ../initrd.img"
[23:09] <lickalott> pm please so I don't lose it.  my logs aren't very long.
[23:09] <TJ-> lickalott: ok
[23:11] <columbobaas> After the kernel upgrade in Ubuntu 15.04, my fglrx-drivers don't work anymore. Known problem?
[23:12] <k1l_> columbobaas: fglrx from the amd site?
[23:12] <columbobaas> no
[23:12] <k1l_> is linux-generic installed?
[23:13] <columbobaas> I always installed it via Updates and sources
[23:13] <_Norns> hello, is the fglrx issues from new update resolved, if anyone knows?
[23:14] <TechMonger> uhh
[23:15] <Gallomimia> what i know about the fglrx "issues" they are resolved by the purchase and installation of an nvidia card. remove old one, and fglrx drivers before install. :(
[23:15] <ash_work> it didn't seem to save nomodeset
[23:15] <_Norns> sorry, accidentally shut it
[23:15] <ash_work> are you supposed to do something other than ^x / F10 ?
[23:16] <_Norns> well, in new upgrade somethign with amd and fglrx causing conflicts.  Had to roll back to previous
[23:16] <ash_work> or maybe it was because it shutdown imporperly?
[23:16] <Gallomimia> ash_work: depends what file you're editing and whether you have permissions to do it
[23:17] <columbobaas> Now I have Ubuntu 14.04.3 and it works perfectly
[23:17] <ash_work> that one in the beginning
[23:17] <ash_work> Gallomimia: the grub file
[23:17] <Gallomimia> some things you have to run a command to make it take changes, some things you have to reboot. some things you need root permissions
[23:17] <kadiro> ash_work: ctrl+X or F10 is the same
[23:17] <Gallomimia> yeah. the grub file needs to get installed by.... something. i'm fuzzy at that point. mine's quite broken
[23:17] <kadiro> ash_work: but for testing if work you must to edit grub.cfg
[23:19] <kadiro> good night all
[23:19] <Koning> Hi
[23:19] <NGC3982> Oh hai.
[23:20] <Koning> I've got a small question, my grub menu is messed up
[23:20] <Koning> memtest is the first option and ubuntu the last one
[23:20] <Koning> how can I reverse the order
[23:20] <TJ-> ash_work: editing the kernel command-line at boot-time is for testing/manual one-off. To make the change permanent edit "/etc/default/grub" and include the option(s) in  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX   then update the "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" by doing "sudo update-grub"
[23:20] <columbobaas> Koning: grub-customizer
[23:20] <wileee> no no no
[23:20] <Koning> yeah, noooo, yeaaaah, nooooooo
[23:20] <Koning> in that program it shows up right
[23:21] <Koning> but in the grub menu it doesn't
[23:21] <k1l_> Koning: what did you do before that grub menu got messed up?
[23:22] <Koning> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:22] <Koning> after eOS's grub overwrote the ubuntu one
[23:22] <TJ-> Koning: the GRUB menuentry order is controlled by the order of execution of the scripts in "/etc/grub.d/" - filenames start with a number. lower numbers are executed first
[23:22] <Koning> ah, I'll check those files TJ-
[23:23] <TJ-> Koning: here's the expected config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131986/
[23:23] <columbobaas> Somebody else problems with latest upgrade with the non-free amd drivers? (fglrx)
[23:24] <TJ-> Koning: ignore "10_custom_linux_menu_sort" that is my own customisation that puts -rc kernels last in the list
[23:24] <k1l_> columbobaas: was there an issue with the install? can you show the logs in /var/log/apt ?
[23:25] <Koning> TJ- this is what I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/12131998/
[23:26] <columbobaas> k1l_: yes indeed, always a system error. unable to install fglrx. But I did a clean install so i cant show you the logs. After reboot: i came in low resolution mode.
[23:26] <TJ-> Koning: that isn't an Ubuntu install!
[23:26] <Koning> I am running ubuntu though
[23:26] <Koning> ubuntu and eOS
[23:26] <TJ-> Koning: but what you have there is nothing like what Ubuntu installs
[23:27] <Koning> is there a way to nuke what I have and rebuild a clean boot config?
[23:27] <columbobaas> Koning isn't there an option in recovery mode in your grub menu?
[23:27] <k1l_> columbobaas: well, its hard to get to the cause of that issue without having that logs anymore
[23:27] <k1l_> Koning: so you are in eOS right now?
[23:28] <Koning> no, I'm in ubuntu right now
[23:28] <Koning> grub isn't broken, it's just that the order is all wrong
[23:29] <k1l_> Koning: so you definately did manual changes there
[23:29] <columbobaas> k1l_: I thought i read: no screens found in the log.
[23:29] <Koning> I didn't but grub customizer might have
[23:29] <k1l_> columbobaas: we will not solve that issue without that logs
[23:29] <TJ-> Koning: something has been altering the /etc/grub.d/ scripts totally. First, remove whatever did that and hope it returns things to normal
[23:30] <chingao> TechMonger, maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/95391/how-do-i-mount-an-sd-card
[23:30] <TJ-> Koning: after that, delete the files from /etc/grub.d/ and reinstall the package: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-common" then "sudo update-grub"
[23:30] <columbobaas> k1l_ after that: i compiled kernel 4.1 and tried again but no result. But Ubuntu 14.04.3 works fine and i can try again in october maybe.
[23:32] <Koning> TJ- reinstall isn't recognized
[23:32] <Koning> nvm
[23:32] <Koning> typo
[23:36] <Koning> TJ- Doing what you said leaves my /etc/grub.d folder empty
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> Koning  i followed it a bit ... maybe ubuntu gnerates a new grub.d, after you rename it to grub.ddd or so
[23:38] <TJ-> Koning: aha... I suspected it might. "sudo apt-get --reinstall install -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' grub-common"
[23:38] <Koning> nah, I moved the grub.d folder, did a grub reinstall, grub update, grub install and everything was blank
[23:39] <TJ-> Koning: when the sysadmin removes conf files dpkg assumes we know what we're doing, and doesn't try to install them
[23:39] <Koning> ah cool
[23:40] <Koning> I'm gonna reboot and hope everything is fine, if I'm not back again this time tomorrow, carry on
[23:41] <TJ-> Koning: you did do update-grub?
[23:41] <Koning> yes
[23:41] <Koning> do I need to do a grub-install ?
[23:41] <TJ-> Koning: *after* grub-common put those scripts back in /etc/grub.d/ ?
[23:42] <Koning> yes
[23:42] <TJ-> Koning: usually ... no ... grub-install writes the boot-strap and core.img, but it won't hurt to do it if you've got multiple OSes on the system arguing over which OS gets to control grub
[23:43] <Koning> that sounds pretty low level :p
[23:43] <TJ-> Koning: grub-install also ensure all the grub modules are in /boot/grub/${ARCH}-${FW_TYPE}/
[23:43] <Koning> Do you know where exactly grub is installed when I choose /dev/sda?
[23:44] <k1l_> in the mbr
[23:44] <Koning> and is that on somehting like a partition or does my disk have reserved space for that?
[23:44] <TJ-> Koning: yes. the first 440 bytes of sector 0 of /dev/sda gets the bootstrap. core.img is written in the spare sectors from sector 1 to the start of the first partition (usually sector 2048)
[23:44] <k1l_> its like a reserved space
[23:45] <Koning> aaah, that explains that starting point :)
[23:45] <asbasp> I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'm using a Koding.com VMS that has Ubuntu 14.04 installed, as well as the trusty repos. However, lftp isn't installed, and it also says "unable to locate package lftp" when I try to apt-get. Is there a quirk with sources.list, or does Koding.com not allow users to have lftp on their box?
[23:45] <TJ-> Koning: on GPT disk-labels core.img is written into a BIOS boot partition which gdisk tools give the short code 0xEF02
[23:45] <Koning> 440 bytes seems like so little space :p
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Koning: TJ- 's great tutorial on where/how.whu boot coding : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[23:46] <TJ-> Koning: that is why it is called the bootstrap. It is loaded to address 0x7C00 in memory, and executed. It then calls BIOS disk services to load sectors 1-2048-ish into memory, and jumps into that code
[23:46] <Koning> do you mean the necesairy /boot partition from UEFI?
[23:46] <asbasp> For the record, here's what my sources.list looks like: https://bpaste.net/raw/879bf4b6394d
[23:47] <TJ-> Koning: For UEFI, firmware looks for the EFI system partition (that gdisk tools call 0xEF00) which must have a FAT file-system in, and reads an EFI executable.
[23:48] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I'd forgotten about that! I need to update and expand it :)
[23:48] <Bashing-om> TJ-: :) I use and refer it a LOT .
[23:49] <k1l_> !info lftp
[23:49] <k1l_> asbasp: what says: "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy lftp"
[23:49] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I'd best get cracking on it then, there's some embarrassing bugs
[23:50] <Koning> is an initramfs required?
[23:50] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I have had no adverse reactions .
[23:50] <Koning> I once read an article that said it's slow/bad (can't really remember)
[23:51] <TJ-> Bashing-om: good... but I noticed some glaring omissions and misleading statements/diagrams
[23:51] <TJ-> Koning: initrd.img is the kernel's bootstrap into the real root file-system. Usually required for all by the simplest configs
[23:52] <TJ-> s/by/but/
[23:52] <Koning> Doesn't arch use something else?
[23:53] <Koning> it might be mkinitcpio I'm thinkging about
[23:54] <yepla> hi
[23:54] <yepla> at the last upgrade fglrx seems broken still the case?
[23:54] <TJ-> Koning: cpio is the tool used to create the file-system inside the initrd.img, before it is gzip-ed
[23:55] <TJ-> Koning: different distros use different tools to create the initrd, but they all do basically the same thing
[23:55] <alu> how do I see if I have cuda installed
[23:55] <alu> I have GTX 960 hooked up to ubuntu machine with driver installed
[23:55] <TJ-> Koning: Debian/Ubuntu used intramfs-tools and the "update-initramfs" command
[23:56] <Bashing-om> TJ-: OT ... I looked on your desk(s) the other day, I did not see a soldiering iron or a motherboard. Maybe you can find the time to devote to the update of the booting sequence tutorial .
[23:56] <yepla> does fglrx is broken ?
[23:57] <columbobaas> yepla, YES
[23:57] <yepla> :(((((((((((((((((((
[23:57] <TJ-> alu: "nvidia-settings -e CUDACores"
[23:57] <yepla> i want play ark
[23:57] <7JTAAIGY8> I have ubuntu 15.04, and the wifi just stopped working. The little blue wif LED  is lit but on the connections tab, the wifi button is grayed out. if I go to systems network, wireless is turned off, and I can;t turn it back on. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:57] <columbobaas> yepla, after upgrade
[23:57] <TJ-> Bashing-om: you did not, or you did?
[23:58] <yepla> columbobaas: yes
[23:58] <columbobaas> yepla, i installed Ubuntu 14.04.3 and fglrx and it's fine
[23:58] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I did ( you posted in another channel the .img of your work space ) .
[23:58] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I was going to say... if you missed the rework station!
[23:59] <yepla> columbobaas: i will wait
[23:59] <yepla> still problem all the time problem
[23:59] <yepla> start be boring