[01:07] <Kali_Yuga> I have a question... I don't know how to unmount or remove the Virtual CD/DVD Drive in KDE any ideas??? heres a picture what I mean http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=15884315 hope somebody can help ???
[02:49] <lkthomas> hey all
[02:51] <lkthomas> anyone around ?
[03:08] <hhernandez> does anyone k now if there are issue setting up a dhcp reservation on you Linux machine on a windows dhcp server?
[03:09] <hhernandez> I set up a reservation and it is not sticking
[03:24] <george_> Do you use rekonq? It doesn't seem stable
[06:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:14] <majnoon> trying to start kde but something "Wrong" with ksmserver kdeinit5 (or both)
[11:14] <majnoon> need to have at least a starting place to look from
[11:43] <Cooltora> Hello everybody
[11:43] <Cooltora> I am from Egypt, Cairo
[11:44] <lordievader> o/
[11:44] <Cooltora> who wants to visit Egypt, and see the pyramids?
[11:44] <Cooltora> you are all very welcome
[11:44] <Cooltora> :)
[11:44] <Cooltora> Have a nice day
[11:45] <Cooltora> i invite you to visit Egypt for one week at least
[11:45] <Cooltora> It's amazing
[11:45] <Cooltora> you wil never forget
[11:45] <lordievader> Cooltora: Do you have a Kubuntu support question?
[11:45] <Cooltora> Ops
[11:45] <Cooltora> i think i mistake
[11:45] <Cooltora> i work on linux mint
[11:46] <Cooltora> is this a normal chat room?
[11:46] <lordievader> Cooltora: No, this is Kubuntu support. Linux Mint is not supported here.
[11:46] <Cooltora> or for kubuntu's team work
[11:46] <Cooltora> I apologize
[11:46] <Cooltora> I am so sorry
[11:46] <lordievader> No worries ;)
[11:46] <Cooltora> thanks
[11:47] <Cooltora> :)
[11:47] <Cooltora> good bye
[11:53] <luc4> Hello! I'm totally unable to get audio output, can someone help me with this?
[11:54] <lordievader> Does Alsa work?
[11:58] <lordievader> luc4: ^
[12:03] <luc4> lordievader: I was able to listen to something by increasing the volume for the headphones...
[12:03] <luc4> And remove pulseaudio:i386
[12:04] <luc4> but weird...
[12:04] <lordievader> luc4: Removing PA is usually a bad idea.
[12:04] <lordievader> luc4: Is anything in alsamixer turned way down?
[12:05] <luc4> no
[12:06] <luc4> lordievader: changing headphone volume results in changing vlc volume... is this correct?
[12:06] <lordievader> If flatvolumes in enabled/disabled (not sure which one it is), yes.
[12:06] <luc4> lordievader: no no there is a mess here...
[12:06] <luc4> lordievader: headphones do not work
[12:07] <luc4> lordievader: I plug the headphones in and I get audio on the PC, I unplug and evrything is silent.
[12:08] <lordievader> Sounds like an automute feature failing.
[12:09] <luc4> lordievader: ok, not it is better
[12:09] <luc4> lordievader: enabled auto mute and headphones are working
[12:10] <luc4> lordievader: problem now is that every time I plug the headphones in and out, I get no audio from pc
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <lordievader> Like I said, sounds like an automute feature failing to do its job ;)
[12:12] <luc4> lordievader: do you know what "speaker" refers to?
[12:12] <lordievader> In where?
[12:12] <luc4> kde mixer and alsamixer
[12:13] <luc4> do you think this is an alsa issue?
[12:13] <lordievader> No, earlier a driver issue or configuration issue.
[12:14] <luc4> lordievader: this was working properly in 14.10...
[12:14] <luc4> like a kernel regression?
[12:16] <lordievader> Perhaps, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions.
[12:16] <lordievader> First rule out configuration issue.
[12:17] <luc4> How?
[12:17] <luc4> First of all I would like to understand what is that "speaker" volume I see here. That changes when I plugin in and out the headphones.
[12:18] <lordievader> Does it mute when you plug in your headphones?
[12:18] <luc4> lordievader: yes
[12:18] <lordievader> So they are your speakers?
[12:19] <luc4> lordievader: I don't know... nothing changes if I change that...
[12:19] <luc4> lordievader: I suppose those should be the regular PC audio...
[12:19] <lordievader> Play something through your speakers then mute it.
[12:19] <luc4> lordievader: headphones should be... headphones...
[12:20] <luc4> lordievader: what a mess...
[12:21] <luc4> lordievader: ok, playing audio on PC speakers -> changing "speaker" level results in no change.
[12:21] <luc4> lordievader: but if I mute it, also master mutes, and audio goes away.
[12:22] <luc4> lordievader: if I increase master, still no audio.
[12:22] <luc4> lordievader: so changing speaker level results in no change. But if I mute, audio goes away.
[12:23] <lordievader> luc4: So does control your speakers? The mute for the speakers?
[12:23] <luc4> lordievader: only mute
[12:23] <luc4> lordievader: just a boolean
[12:25] <lordievader> luc4: I know, but does it?
[12:25] <luc4> lordievader: what? Yes, muting it results in no more audio from the pc
[12:26] <lordievader> Ok, so 'speaker' is speakers?
[12:26] <luc4> lordievader: yes, but not for the volume level
[12:26] <luc4> lordievader: just for mute/unmute
[12:26] <luc4> lordievader: which is absurd I suppose
[12:27] <luc4> lordievader: volume level is headphone
[12:27] <lordievader> That might be due to a strange hardware implementation.
[12:28] <lordievader> Anyways, I'd install pulseaudio and pavucontrol and see if your configuration is simply inadequate.
[12:32] <luc4> lordievader: same thing
[12:32] <[^BuD^]> hi all
[12:32] <luc4> lordievader: should I consider this a bug or not?
[12:35] <lordievader> What 'same thing'?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> luc4:  which audio chip?
[12:37] <luc4> BluesKaj: HD Intel PCH
[12:38] <luc4> BluesKaj: HDA Intel PCH sorry
[12:38] <BluesKaj> luc4:  could you imagebin alsamixer pls?
[12:39] <luc4> BluesKaj: in which condition?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> with F5
[12:40] <BluesKaj> so everything shows
[12:45] <luc_> BluesKaj: what I see is that the mechanism works properly. When I unplug headphones, the volume for headphones is 0 and mutes, speaker instead is unmuted an set to some volume. This is correct, but as "speaker" level controls nothing on this PC, I hear nothing.
[12:45] <luc_> sorry, I was disconnected from irc
[12:46] <luc4> BluesKaj: sorry, I lost IRC connection.
[12:49] <lordievader> soee: So could you pastebin the errors you get?
[12:50] <soee> lordievader: it is: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not installable
[12:52] <lordievader> soee: libstreamanalyzer0 is not installed here, what needs it?
[12:53] <lordievader> Doesn't seem to be in the repo anymore too.
[12:53] <soee> something related to satigi* ?
[12:53] <soee> *strigi
[12:55] <lordievader> Wasn't that replaced by nepomuk?
[12:55] <soee> oh that i don't know
[12:56] <soee> lordievader: apt-get -f install output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12135370/
[13:00] <lordievader> soee: Anything wrong with that?
[13:02] <soee> huh ? tit is going to remove a lot of apps
[13:03] <lordievader> Plasma4 apps ;)
[13:04] <lordievader> Come on, you are running a development release ;)
[13:04] <soee> i doubt remove kubuntu-desktop is a good idea :-)
[13:04] <soee> *removing
[13:05] <lordievader> Meh, install it later.
[13:05] <lordievader> Kubuntu-desktop is merely a meta-package.
[13:06] <lordievader> With a development release you need to be a bit adventurous.
[13:09] <soee> yes but not here at work :)
[13:09] <lordievader> soee: And that is precisely why you don't run a development release in production.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> my desktop crashed (testing 15.10 Wily), but I'm here again for the moment
[14:18] <some1else> hi all, is someone willing to pm me with ideas? fresh install of kubuntu 14.04, installed all wifi drivers but network manager does not display any networks. can't find anything on google and damn, i just had to switch something on!..
[14:19] <lordievader> some1else: Does 'sudo iw dev wlan0 scan|grep ESSID' return anything?
[14:23] <some1else> lordievader here's the catch - i'm giving a walkthrough over the phone. i'm 100% positive all drivers installed correctly. and i recall had the same issue, just not using 14.04 anymore.
[14:23] <lordievader> some1else: So run that command and verify if things work or not.
[14:23] <some1else> alright
[14:23] <some1else> thanks
[14:23] <some1else> could you please copy&paste it again?
[14:24] <some1else> had to switch pcs..
[14:24] <lordievader> some1else: Does 'sudo iw dev wlan0 scan|grep ESSID' return anything?
[14:24] <some1else> thanks!
[15:26] <lordievader> !pm some1else
[15:27] <lordievader> !pm
[15:27] <lordievader> some1else: Then change wlan0 to something that does exist.
[15:46] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[15:46] <BuddyButterfly> I am having a very strange issue in Kubuntu 14.04
[15:47] <BuddyButterfly> I have configured a bridge br0 which I control with NetworkManager
[15:47] <BuddyButterfly> upon start, br0 gets its ip via dhcp
[15:47] <BuddyButterfly> but.... host is not reachable in network!
[15:48] <BuddyButterfly> until I do a ping from the host to somewhere. after that ping I am also able to reach it from outside.
[15:49] <BuddyButterfly> I am totally lost why this happens. This host also stopped being able to be started via wol
[15:49] <BuddyButterfly> happened all of the sudden and I do not know why.
[15:51] <BuddyButterfly> interesting is also that I do see the mac of the host in the switch only after issuing this first ping.
[15:51] <BuddyButterfly> before this, there is no dynamic mac in switch.
[15:56] <BuddyButterfly> any idea?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> BuddyButterfly:  have you tried restarting network manager , I've had to so after eth0 drops sometimes, not often but it happens now and then
[16:04] <BuddyButterfly> I have put a nm restart in rc.local.
[16:05] <BuddyButterfly> br0 gets a ip and is up.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> BuddyButterfly:  which kubuntu version?
[16:05] <BuddyButterfly> 14.04
[16:05] <BuddyButterfly> with nm patch for bridge
[16:05] <BuddyButterfly> in /etc/network/interface bridge is set to manual such that nm has it under control.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> static IP for br0 ?
[16:09] <BuddyButterfly> no, dhcp
[16:10] <BluesKaj> seems you may need a static if you're controlling from the interfaces file thru nm
[16:11] <BluesKaj> but I haven't used bridging in network manager, I have the modem bridged
[16:12] <BluesKaj> modem has to be bridged in my case for voip service
[16:12] <BuddyButterfly> I have patched nm to be able to have it listed in nm and also run VPNs etc.
[16:12] <BuddyButterfly> there is a patch for nm for trusty.
[16:13] <BluesKaj> yes , i run vpns as well , but that's simple to edit in nm
[16:14] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: Not really. The default version in trusty does not detect bridges. So no active network when u sing a bridge and no vpns via GUI.
[16:14] <BluesKaj> why are you bridging , first of all
[16:15] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: Really asking me?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:15] <BuddyButterfly> Would you suggest not using it because it is something that should not be used?
[16:16] <BuddyButterfly> I know, you would like to hear that I am only doing it for fun so I could stop using it.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> I think bridging should only be used if absolutely necessary, IMO
[16:17] <BuddyButterfly> Just imagine the simple use case of a couple of kvm vms bridged to the local lan such to have it get IPs from central dhcp and being reachable in lan as local host.
[16:17] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: lol
[16:17] <BuddyButterfly> People say the same of windows 10.
[16:18] <BuddyButterfly> should be used only if necessary.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> kvm vms in thje picture, now puts a different light on things
[16:18] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: and that is?
[16:20] <BuddyButterfly> Maybe I have to hacking like lots of people always suggest.
[16:20] <BuddyButterfly> and put a ping in rc.local.  :-))))
[16:21] <BuddyButterfly> this leads, like often, to have something runner with a workaround but not knowing the cause.
[16:21] <BuddyButterfly> does not make ME happy!
[16:22] <BluesKaj> bridging for networking in kvm for windows guest for example, but Im not going to debate it if you a legit reason ,...sometimes users read things in forums and come in to ask about using certain settings because someone said something positive on a forum which has nothing to do with their situation
[16:27] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: ah, ok, right.
[16:27] <BuddyButterfly> kvm is integrated into kernel and relies (which makes sense) on the linux system configuration for networking.
[16:28] <BuddyButterfly> so, if one wants to have vm bridged to lan then one has to create a bridge in linux. that easy.
[16:28] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: strange; I use 14.04 and NM bridging, and not seen that issue
[16:29] <BuddyButterfly> TJ-: Me too on another host! But just this single host emitts this strange behaviour.
[16:29] <BuddyButterfly> I am using same configuration etc.
[16:29] <BuddyButterfly> very strange.
[16:29] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: what is the NIC hardware ?
[16:29] <BuddyButterfly> TJ-: Let me see...
[16:30] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: I'm thinking it is defaulting to power-save mode
[16:30] <BuddyButterfly> TJ-: ah, that could be a valid reason.
[16:31] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: ethtool/mii-tool might reveal something
[16:32] <BuddyButterfly> just wanted to ask.
[16:32] <BuddyButterfly> will ethtool show the current state?
[16:36] <BuddyButterfly> ethtool does not show anything special. link is up.
[16:36] <BuddyButterfly> for eth0. so is for br0
[16:36] <BuddyButterfly> how to see power mode for nic?
[16:38] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: first thing to look at is the options for WOL
[16:38] <BuddyButterfly> pumbg
[16:39] <BuddyButterfly> config g is used
[16:39] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: OK, so the thing should wake up for almost any activity
[16:39] <TJ-> what does mii-tool report? anything useful?
[16:40] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: also, ethtool --show-eee ethX" ?
[16:40] <BuddyButterfly> product info: vendor 00:07:32, model 17 rev 2
[16:40] <BuddyButterfly> basic status: autonegotiation complete, link ok
[16:40] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: and also I wonder if it has tx-lpi enabled?
[16:41] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: right... mii-tool doesn't report so much by default
[16:41] <BuddyButterfly> true
[16:41] <BuddyButterfly> Cannot get EEE settings: Operation not supported
[16:41] <BuddyButterfly> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
[16:43] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: OK. Hmmm. It definitely feels like power-save. I wonder if the driver has power options? which driver is it using? "lspci -k"
[16:44] <BuddyButterfly> r8169
[16:45] <BuddyButterfly> this is one thing I will keep in mind: Looking for boards with intel nics in future.
[17:00] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: does the PC dual-boot with Windows?
[17:01] <BuddyButterfly> TJ-: what do you think? It is a pure Kubuntu ;-)
[17:03] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: I've read that some devices use the wrong driver. R8168 should use r8168 maybe? can you show me the PCI ID shown by "lspci -nn" (the [xxxx:yyyy] at the end of the line)
[17:03] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: I asked since if Windows uses power-saving settings they can be held over by the realtek NIC in some cases, and affect Linux
[17:04] <BuddyButterfly> ah, makes sense.
[17:04] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=605559
[17:04] <BuddyButterfly> wontfix is funndy.....
[17:04] <BuddyButterfly> ;-)
[17:04] <TJ-> It's a Windows issue, not Linux, is why
[17:05] <TJ-> It's possible that BIOS/firmware settings affect this, especially if PXE is enabled
[17:06] <BuddyButterfly> [10ec:8168] (rev 03)
[17:07] <TJ-> So it is an 8168 then
[17:08] <BuddyButterfly> yes.
[17:08] <TJ-> Can you tell which firmware it loaded, from dmesg? The driver shows there are several versions for the 8168. See "modinfo r8169"
[17:12] <BuddyButterfly> TJ-: I do not see which firmware is loaded.
[17:13] <BuddyButterfly> is this important:
[17:13] <BuddyButterfly> r8169 0000:02:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
[17:15] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: no, many systems don't support ASPM (Active State Power Management)
[17:15] <BuddyButterfly> ok, merci
[17:15] <BuddyButterfly> then there is nothing else showing that that r8169 is loaded.....
[17:15] <BuddyButterfly> any info on the real firmware used?
[17:16] <BuddyButterfly> guess I would have to start kernel in debug mode
[17:16] <TJ-> or read the source, Luke
[17:17] <BuddyButterfly> yep, may the power be with you.
[17:25] <TJ-> BuddyButterfly: apparently, the NIC MAC is how the driver determines which exact model it is, and which firmware. what's the MAC?
[17:33] <qdata> so, is there any info available somewhere concerning the lack of support or EOL policy for Kubuntu 14.10?
[17:35] <qdata> just updated an Lubuntu box to Firefox 40, whilst my main Kubuntu 14.10 desktop box only has FF 39.0 with no update
[17:38] <TJ-> !eol | qdata
[17:42] <qdata> ah - 14.10 expired 23 July, explains that
[17:42] <qdata> so sad, as 15.04 is/was a steaming pile
[17:44] <qdata> I've looked and looked at distros in an attempt to replace Canonical/Kubuntu with something else but Kubuntu is still the best KDE desktop platform I can find from everything I've tried
[17:45] <qdata> so I now am faced with a Firefox that has a vulnerability....
[17:50] <TJ-> use the mozilla-team nightly firefox PPA ?
[17:50] <qdata> yeah - might need to look into that, but next up on the list is virtualbox too old to run winderZ 10
[17:51] <qdata> I'm not a total fan of the PPA as I like to stick with 'official' repo distribution channels, but I may have to look at that
[17:53] <qdata> I'm not going to waste my time with 15.04 - tried too look at it several times and each time rolled back to my 14.10 clonezilla image
[17:54] <qdata> context here is I need my box to be productive for $real_life work, not spending the bulk of my time trying to fix0r broken stuff
[17:55]  * qdata proceeds to sit back and cogitate for a while....
[17:57] <TJ-> So why not stick to 14.04 LTS?
[18:01] <qdata> broken intel p_state power management maybe?
[18:01] <TJ-> With LTS you can install the HWEs and get a recent kernel
[18:02] <qdata> yeah - I'm going to have to do *something*, just not quite sure yet what I want to do
[18:19] <user0x> test
[18:23] <BluesKaj> yeah , if I want to keep my fav features and still receive OS support , it looks like I'll have to regress to 14.04 from 14.10
[18:30] <BluesKaj> plasma 5/KF5 on 15.04 has dropped too many favourite features for me to use, small annoyances to some, but they're important from my "workflow" standpoint
[18:31] <qdata> I really like my 14.10 set up, even Skype seems to keep working
[18:31] <user0x> workflow is all.
[18:31] <user0x> i just want CUDA to work on my BLender
[18:32] <user0x> else I'm stuck on windows still
[18:32] <user0x> among other things
[18:32] <user0x> Or hopefully there will be another alternative to using CUDA format for Blender Cycles to operate efficiently
[18:33] <Pici> /36/36
[18:33] <BluesKaj> I don't really "work" , but it's still important to me not to be annoyed
[18:33]  * BluesKaj is retired from the workforce
[18:34]  * qdata has 4 more years then I'm done
[18:34] <BluesKaj> qdata: light at the end of the tunnel :-)
[18:36] <qdata> sets the stage for what just recently happened to my best friend - retired at 62, bought a house on the ocean in ecuador for 1/3 of what he sold his house here for, completed his move there and died from a heart attack 1 month later
[18:38] <BuddyButterfly> TJ-: at least have found why host is not reachable at boot: was a type in the ip kernel parameter!
[18:38] <BluesKaj> yup, my oldest brother died 18mos after retirement , he was 63
[18:38] <BuddyButterfly> typo
[18:39] <Nkontras> Κανεις Ελληνας εδώ;
[18:53] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: That is often been heard. Guess he was very busy before retirement. Often people stop too fast from 100 to 0. Pace should be reduced gradually
[18:55] <BluesKaj> BuddyButterfly: unfortuntely he became afflicted with a muscle/nerve disease where the muscles lose all strength which eventually leads to heart failure
[18:56] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: Ah, ok, so he became sick. I am sorry for that.
[18:56] <BuddyButterfly> BluesKaj: cu. gtg.
[18:56] <BluesKaj> yeah, it was tragic...worked hard all his life only to have it end it so soon
[18:57] <BluesKaj> cya buriedalive
[18:57] <BluesKaj> oops, too late
[18:58] <buriedalive> see u later BluesKaj :)
[19:00] <BluesKaj> sorry buriedalive, wrong nick completion , I was saying bye to another nick starting with bu....
[19:01] <HappyRoey> hey BluesKaj!!! :)
[19:01] <HappyRoey> long time no see!!
[19:01] <buriedalive> o'key ;)
[19:02]  * HappyRoey prepares a celebration veggie steak for BluesKaj 
[19:02] <HappyRoey> hey buriedalive :)
[19:02] <HappyRoey> ah, ah, ah, ah buriedalive, buriedaliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-iii-iiiive
[19:02] <HappyRoey> BluesKaj:  I actually did have a request for help.
[19:02] <BluesKaj> HappyRoey:  it'll be my first veggie steak ...never tried one
[19:03] <HappyRoey> hahahahah :)
[19:03] <HappyRoey> what, you haven't had a portabella steak?
[19:03] <BluesKaj> nope , real beef for me thankyou very much :-)
[19:05] <buriedalive> HappyRoey ur u gay? get out of here
[19:06] <HappyRoey> what gay?
[19:06] <HappyRoey> buriedalive:  stayin' alive, the song
[19:06] <HappyRoey> what you never heard of it before?
[19:06] <buriedalive> get out
[19:07] <BluesKaj> buriedalive:  ...enough
[19:07] <buriedalive> ok
[19:07] <genii> Hey people, we do have also a #kubuntu-offtopic channel for any chitchat which is not related to support issues
[19:09] <HappyRoey> genii:  I actually came here for help on an issue (several):  (1) my backup device seems kind of half-identifiable to my system (I'll explain in a bit); ctrl-` no longer brings down the Yakuake console like it used to before I apt-get dist-upgraded a few weeks ago;
[19:09] <HappyRoey> and other issues.
[19:13] <BluesKaj> maybe update/upgrade dist-upgrade again, HappyRoeyq
[19:13] <buriedalive> a u sure?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> HappyRoey: 15.04
[19:14] <BluesKaj> ??
[19:14] <HappyRoey> yep
[19:15] <HappyRoey> BluesKaj:  perhaps..
[19:15] <BluesKaj> lotsa changes to plasma ina few weeks
[19:16] <buriedalive> he should just update any repo?
[19:18] <buriedalive> it is joke
[19:22] <Nkontraa> Kubuntu not booting GUIafter latest update of 14.04.03 . Only command prompt. Any help appreciated. Noobs here.
[19:23] <genii> Nkontraa: Does the machine have internet connectivity?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> Nkontraa:  try sudo service lightdm start in the VT/command prompt
[19:26] <Nkontraa> @genii no it doesnt. Thanks for answering
[19:27] <Nkontraa> @BluesKaj can you please write the command?
[19:27] <Nkontraa> VT command??
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Nkontraa: ctl+alt+F1-F6
[19:29] <BluesKaj> VT=VirtualTerminal also known as the TTY,altho that's an incorrect name for it a lot of users call it that anyway
[19:30] <Nkontraa> Ok, I was already there and it showed after the command start: Job failed to start
[19:31] <lordievader> Nkontraa: Could you pastebin /var/log/lighdm.log (or something along those lines).
[19:31] <lordievader> Err /var/log/lightdm.log*
[19:31] <Nkontraa> Is there any chance I can use WiFi through command prompt .
[19:32] <lordievader> Nkontraa: Is it preconfigured?
[19:32] <Nkontraa> Ok
[19:32] <Nkontraa> Gimme a sec
[19:32] <lordievader> If so, lookup the name with 'nmcli c' then establish the connection with 'nmcli c u <network-name>'
[19:33] <BluesKaj> Nkontraa:  check to see if it's onstalled, apt-cache policy lightdm
[19:33] <BluesKaj> installed raqther
[19:35] <Nkontraa> It is installed.
[19:38] <Nkontraa> Ok just found the wireless networks through nmcli
[19:38] <Nkontraa> Thanks
[19:38] <Nkontraa> How can I connect
[19:38] <Nkontraa> Now
[19:38] <Nkontraa> Through a command to the one I use
[19:39] <lordievader> Nkontraa: nmcli c u <network-name>
[19:43] <Nkontraa> It says I'd or uuid has to be specified but when I enter it instead of the network name it says  unknown parameter
[19:46] <lordievader> Nkontraa: Put the network name between ''.
[19:49] <lordievader> Anyhow, I'm going to take a shower and then I go to bed. But I'm sure someone else can help you out.
[20:04] <Nkontraa> Went out of battery, but success connecting to WiFi . A thousand thanks to everybody for that . Especially to Lordievader
[20:05] <Nkontraa> Please someone copypaste the big nmcli command cause my phone battery died and I can't see older messages
[20:08] <genii> Nkontraa: " lookup the name with 'nmcli c' then establish the connection with 'nmcli c u <network-name>'  "  and  "nmcli c u <network-name>"
[20:14] <Nkontraa> Genii: thanks. Problem even starting up command prompt before and after update through WiFi. Any command for diagnostics??
[20:19] <genii> Nkontraa: Sorry, I don't really have the time right now to properly devote to your issue. Hopefully another will assist if you remain in the channel and occasionally repeat the issue
[21:03] <Nkontraa> Help.. Command line to change update server through terminal??
[21:04] <Nkontraa> Eg to a server of your choice
[21:06] <clivejo> sudo add-apt-repository "deb line of your choice"
[21:08] <clivejo> Nkontraa: mirror list here - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[22:32] <caliculk> Hello, I recently upgraded my ubuntu installation from 14.04 LTS to 15.04, and also went through the installation of Plasma5. Well, I am running into issues with the Plasma install, and was wondering if there was any way to downgrade to Plasma4 in the mean time?
[22:43] <unascribed> what kind of issues?
[22:44] <unascribed> caliculk ^
[22:45] <caliculk> Sorry... unascribed - https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=127785 basically, when I remote into the machine using RealVNC (which was working fine with Plasma4).
[22:46] <noob91> /topic
[22:46] <caliculk> noob91, I am linking that more for the pictures, then for pastebins. Unless you ar eferring to the guidelines part of the topic.
[22:47] <unascribed> I don't have much if any experience with VNC, so I don't know
[22:47] <caliculk> Its hard to describe, the interface is responsive, but then if I go in the upper-left corner, the screen grays out. I can't use the mouse to interact with the desktop.
[22:48] <unascribed> I do know that a lot of my local problems went away when I updated to Weekly CI, so maybe you could try that?
[22:48] <unascribed> your .xsession-errors may have some more info
[22:50] <unascribed> wait, the upper-left corner is the plasmoid hamburger menu thingy
[22:50] <caliculk> Yeah
[22:50] <unascribed> try going into desktop settings and turning off the desktop toolbox in Tweaks
[22:50] <unascribed> a workaround at best, but a workaround is better than nothing
[22:51] <caliculk> The only optionsI have in desktop settings is to modify mouse settins and wallpaper.
[22:51] <caliculk> It seems like the KDE doesn't fully load. :/
[22:52] <unascribed> oh, that must be a new feature then
[22:52] <unascribed> I'm running the weekly CI build
[22:52] <unascribed> if you right-click and choose to create a new default panel, does anything happen?
[22:52] <unascribed> or can you not even get the context menu open
[22:53] <caliculk> I can't open the context menu with right click. I can only use the hamburger menu for the options listed there.
[22:53] <caliculk> Well, I am sure there are more options, but the only way I login with a GUI to this machine is through VNC. If itisn't working properly, I would assume because not all features are being loaded correctly.
[22:54] <unascribed> yeah, I have no idea, sorry
[22:54] <unascribed> I don't think it's possible to backdate to 4 on Vivid
[22:55] <unascribed> since they replaced the packages instead of adding -5 to them
[22:57] <unascribed> as I said though, I noticed the majority of my problems go away when updating to weekly, so if you're up for it you could try it: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Weekly_Snapshot_.28pretty_stable.29
[22:57] <unascribed> if it doesn't work out a single ppa-purge would undo it
[23:05] <caliculk> unascribed, did Kubuntu maintainers remove 4, or did all Ubuntu maintainers remove 4?
[23:05] <unascribed> I think it counts as the Ubuntu KDE Maintainers
[23:05] <unascribed> not sure
[23:06] <unascribed> because I installed 5 on my Xubuntu Vivid install so it would have to be in the main package repo
[23:06] <misterno> hello guys
[23:06] <misterno> i installed kubuntu 15.04 in VM
[23:06] <misterno> it looks slick
[23:07] <arcetera> oh yeah, kde5 is fantastic
[23:07] <misterno> got a few issues, dunno if anyone can help
[23:07] <arcetera> what issues
[23:07] <misterno> you mean plasma?
[23:07] <unascribed> ^
[23:07] <arcetera> yeah, plasma
[23:07] <arcetera> blah
[23:07] <misterno> yeah plasma is superb, looks so modern
[23:07] <arcetera> plasma4 didn't look good to me, i switched to kubuntu after plasma5 was available
[23:08] <arcetera> plasma 4 had too much gloss imo
[23:08] <arcetera> anyway
[23:08] <arcetera> issues
[23:08] <misterno> for starters, my shutdown doesn't seem to shutdown VM completely i have to force it after it goes into black screen, and during booting i get "acpi pcc probe failed" i dunno if that's connected, and it might be just vmware issue
[23:08] <misterno> second, how do i disable mousewheel from changing drop down menus on hover?
[23:08] <arcetera> that actually happened to me on my macbook pro
[23:08] <arcetera> also sec
[23:09] <misterno> when i scroll a settings page if i accidentaly mouse over a drop down box it wuold change it and i dont want that
[23:09] <misterno> couldnt find option to disable this behavior
[23:09] <misterno> third, im trying to update to plasma 5.3.2 that i read was backported and i should add repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[23:10] <misterno> i try to do that but nothing happens in muon discover
[23:10] <misterno> i dont know how to add that repository
[23:10] <arcetera> okay
[23:10] <arcetera> can't help you with issues 1 and 2 but i can help you with 3
[23:10] <arcetera> open up console or whatever terminal emulator you use
[23:10] <arcetera> (i use yakuake but whatever)
[23:11] <arcetera> type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports"
[23:11] <arcetera> then "sudo apt-get update" after it's done
[23:11] <misterno> that's the same as adding through gui?
[23:11] <arcetera> yeah
[23:11] <arcetera> i don't use muon discover myself
[23:11] <arcetera> just use cli
[23:12] <arcetera> but muon discover is useful for new users
[23:12] <arcetera> i've been using linux since age 10 lol
[23:12] <arcetera> maybe 9
[23:12] <misterno> im complete newb to linux
[23:13] <misterno> installed the other day mint, and now kubuntu
[23:13] <misterno> in VMs
[23:13] <arcetera> its a learning curve
[23:13] <arcetera> also drivers on linux are quite bleh
[23:13] <misterno> is there a different taskbar that can have similar behavior like win8/10 taskbar with pinned icons?
[23:13] <misterno> i had something similar in mint
[23:14] <arcetera> pin?
[23:14] <arcetera> as in, just icons
[23:14] <arcetera> or
[23:14] <misterno> yes
[23:14] <arcetera> yeah
[23:14] <arcetera> click the three bars on the panel
[23:14] <misterno> it basically turns into launchbar as well as taskbar
[23:14] <misterno> i know this one can do that but it's not really it
[23:14] <arcetera> ah
[23:14] <arcetera> ok
[23:14] <misterno> it can have pinned icons when app is closed
[23:14] <arcetera> i haven't used a windows pc in years
[23:14] <arcetera> pretty much all I use is my laptop hah
[23:15] <misterno> but what i mean is to simply just have icons on taskbar for every task no labels and then ability to pin them too
[23:15] <arcetera> hmm
[23:15] <arcetera> you could try a different panel
[23:15] <arcetera> you're currently using the default, but there's gnome-panel, xfce4panel, lxpanel, dzen2, lemonbar
[23:15] <arcetera> tons of different panels
[23:15] <arcetera> look it up, i'm sure one of those would satisfy your needs
[23:16] <misterno> this is the task bar of windows 10 im using at the moment http://s9.postimg.org/dh0df8jvj/screenshot_3.png
[23:16] <misterno> all the icons are pinned applications, those that are running have a bar under neath
[23:16] <misterno> taskbar is called panel in linux world?
[23:17] <arcetera> yeah
[23:17] <misterno> ok
[23:17] <arcetera> as you can easily replace them
[23:17] <arcetera> and add multiple
[23:17] <arcetera> i could have panels on the top and bottom
[23:17] <arcetera> etc
[23:17] <arcetera> okay
[23:17] <arcetera> so
[23:17] <arcetera> to pin an app you can just drag it from the kickoff menu
[23:17] <arcetera> into kde panel
[23:18] <misterno> i downloaded similar "widget" in mint but wasnt happy with overall behavior it would glitch a lot
[23:18] <misterno> now im looking into it on kubuntu
[23:19] <misterno> also the peek previews on default panel in kubuntu seem to big, dont know how to make it smaller
[23:19] <arcetera> brb rebooting
[23:19] <arcetera> just updated to kde 5.3.2
[23:19] <misterno> gonna do it now :)
[23:20] <arcetera> oh lol what
[23:20] <arcetera> the reboot option broke
[23:20] <arcetera> sec
[23:22] <noob91> hello
[23:26] <misterno> hello noob91
[23:49] <joshua19832> hi, some can connect to irc.irc-hispano.org?
[23:54] <arcetera> that was more of a pain in the butt than it should have been
[23:54] <arcetera> Plasma wouldn't start, had to switch to a tty and run dist-upgrade
[23:55] <arcetera> then the compositor on start option was somehow disabled...
[23:59] <arcetera> note to self
[23:59] <arcetera> run dist-upgrade next time you upgrade kde plasma from ppa