[05:19] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[05:19] <Kilos> oh and inetpro 
[05:40] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:19] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:39] <Squirm> Morning
[06:39] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: why did you go lowercase?
[06:53] <barrydk> More 
[07:15] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:20] <barrydk> How you inetpro
[07:22] <Kilos> dag se julle
[07:25] <thatgraemeguy> Squirm: why did't you? ;-p
[07:38] <barrydk> hi Kilos, thatgraemeguy
[07:40] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo :)
[07:47] <inetpro> barrydk: good and yourself?
[07:52] <barrydk> Good inetpro
[07:59] <Symmetria> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/t31.0-8/11802611_10153602436300528_3010507034654948574_o.jpg <[08:28] <Kilos> hi barrydk thatgraemeguy 
[08:33] <Kilos> hi gremble Xethron 
[08:52] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[10:14] <qwebirc18088> helo
[10:56] <gremble> Weird. My join messages are still here, by the part messages left >.>
[11:09] <superfly> inetpro: do you use any asset registry software? 
[11:10] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... for our open source environment? Good question, unfortunately the answer is no
[11:12] <inetpro> superfly: what are you looking at?
[11:12] <superfly> inetpro: more for hardware. I'm looking for something that I can use to keep track of our hardware (and possibly software) 
[11:12] <inetpro> have you looked at ansible?
[11:13] <superfly> No, I'll take a look. 
[11:13] <inetpro> ansible all -m setup
[11:13] <inetpro> outputs a ton of info 
[11:14] <inetpro> just can't say that I am using it effectively just yet
[11:14] <inetpro> but that on it's own could be very useful to keep track of
[11:18] <inetpro> must say it is very quick and easy to start using ansible
[11:25] <inetpro> just ansible-playbook and other stuff gets much more complicated and I still need to spend much more time with it
[11:26]  * inetpro likes the concept behind it
[17:25] <magespawn> good evening
[17:47] <gremble> whuzzup
[17:50] <inetpro> sanibonani
[17:53] <inetpro> Kilos: you ok? 
[17:56] <gremble> How are you inetpro?
[17:56] <gremble> Why would Kilos be not-okay?
[17:56] <Kilos> ya kinda
[17:57] <Kilos> bit worried about ops otherwise good
[17:57] <gremble> ops?
[17:57] <Kilos> and inetpro ill most likely miss our meet and the africa one
[17:57] <Kilos> sigh
[17:57] <Kilos> ya gremble gotta go for prostate and hernia ops
[17:57] <inetpro> ai!
[17:58] <gremble> :/ 
[17:58] <gremble> That sucks
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: when?
[17:58] <Kilos> in our wonderful hospitals
[17:58] <Kilos> going on monday early inetpro 
[17:58] <Kilos> maybe they dont admit same time then its ok
[17:59] <inetpro> they doing it all at once?
[17:59] <Kilos> i dont know
[17:59] <Kilos> here they first want to practise testing everything fo 2 weeks first
[17:59] <Kilos> sigh
[17:59] <Kilos> so who knows
[18:00] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:01] <inetpro> gremble: I was asking because he's been very quiet here lately
[18:01] <Kilos> if i go in ill be offline i think
[18:01] <Kilos> i been resting lots sorry inetpro 
[18:07] <Kilos> wbb
[18:11] <Kilos-> any ideas? my kde cannot copy paste files to android fones memory card
[18:12] <Kilos-> is the something that needs installing?
[18:12] <Kilos-> i can see all the files android saves there but cannot paste other files to it
[18:13] <gremble> That is odd. Perhaps you don't have write permissions?
[18:14] <gremble> gvfs-mtp and gvfs-libmtp is what you need. But if you can see the files, you probaly already have these libraries installed
[18:14] <gremble> (I think they probably come by default these days)
[18:15] <gremble> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87667 perhaps?
[18:15] <gremble> Hey Langjan
[18:16] <Langjan> hi gremble 
[18:18] <Langjan> hi Kilos- 
[18:18] <Kilos-> hi Langjan 
[18:18] <Langjan> hoe gaan dit?
[18:18] <Kilos> goed dankie en self?
[18:19] <Langjan> OK dankie maar het drooggemaak
[18:19] <Kilos> wat nou
[18:19] <Langjan> Long story
[18:19] <Kilos> tell
[18:20] <Kilos> by you or linda?
[18:20] <Langjan> Lindas Vodamail has been lost 'cause she gave her simcard away
[18:20] <Kilos> oh my
[18:20] <Langjan> so now we decided to open a new account for her on my domain
[18:20] <Kilos> thunderbird will still see what was there
[18:21] <Kilos> ok
[18:21] <Kilos> she should have first mailed her contacts that she is changing
[18:21] <Langjan> so I deleted her account, thinking I can just register a new one, but did not realise that if I delete the account all the mails are also lost!  
[18:22] <Kilos> get the sim back for a day
[18:22] <Langjan> so now can I go thro the same process that inetpro  did too get them back?
[18:22] <Kilos> ehe
[18:22] <Kilos> hehe too
[18:22] <Langjan> We cant, its gone
[18:22] <Kilos> oh my
[18:23] <Kilos> you will need all those commands and modify them to see the new account i think
[18:23] <Langjan> so now how can I transfer them to a new account?
[18:23] <Kilos> lol carefully
[18:24] <Kilos> im lost here sir you will need to call on pro again
[18:25] <Langjan> well first I have to get them back, will a repeat of the last few steps of the other night do the trick or must I set the new account up first? 
[18:25] <Kilos> maybe 
[18:25] <Kilos> set new account first
[18:25] <Kilos> then see if voda wont forward them all for you
[18:25] <Langjan> ok let me do that
[18:27] <Langjan> no I dont think that will work, they were kept for 14 days only on the server 
[18:27] <Kilos> eish
[18:28] <Kilos> i leave mine there forever
[18:28] <Kilos> sometimes spend hours deleting useless mals
[18:28] <Langjan> good idea if you have the capacity available, voda gives 3 gig I think
[18:28] <Kilos> oh
[18:29] <Langjan> so if you let it get to big, "mailbox full"
[18:29] <Kilos> eish
[18:30] <Kilos> i have no idea how big gmails is but i have 5 g there already on one account
[18:30] <Kilos> how is she going to notify all contacts
[18:30] <Kilos> i man
[18:31] <Kilos> ai! ook
[18:31] <Langjan> by mail, only 40 contacts
[18:31] <Kilos> oh as long as she has their addresses thats good
[18:32] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[18:32] <Cryterion> hi
[18:36] <Kilos> oh Langjan you sure pro didnt get you back them up somewhere
[18:37] <Langjan> i still have the backups
[18:37] <Kilos> or were they al in that acount
[18:37] <Kilos> then you might find them there
[18:38] <Kilos> just tell TB where to find them i think
[18:39] <Kilos> you could even reopen the voda account again
[18:40] <Kilos> and dont delete it till you got everything forwarded youself to new addy
[18:41] <Langjan> I think I must ask the pro what sequence I should follow now
[18:44] <Langjan> perhaps I can register the new account and then import the mails to it instead
[18:44] <Kilos> well when he guides you things work
[18:45] <Langjan> have you seen him around?
[18:45] <Kilos> but first make new account
[18:45] <Langjan> ok will do
[18:45] <Kilos> he was hear earlier
[18:45] <Kilos> here
[18:47] <Kilos> i need to sleep guys. have a successful evening and sleep tight
[18:47] <Kilos> see you  tomorrow
[18:48] <Langjan> sleep well kilos
[18:48] <gremble> sleep well Kilos 
[18:48] <Kilos> ty
[19:01] <Langjan> hi inetpro 
[19:14] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:25] <inetpro> Langjan: hi
[19:26] <inetpro> skuus oom, ek was besig met ander goed netnou
[19:26] <inetpro> 1. set up new account in offline mode, 2. close Thunderbird 3. delete newly created files in 'profile/Mail/account' folder, 4. copy files from backup to 'profile/Mail/account' folder
[19:26] <Langjan> hi inetpro 
[19:27] <inetpro> and then 5. start Thunderbird again
[19:27] <inetpro> so maklik soos dit
[19:28] <Langjan> I have set the new account up but not offline mode, does that complicate matters?
[19:28] <inetpro> well if you had mails that got downloaded they will be gone
[19:29] <Langjan> no mails, no problem
[19:29] <Langjan> many thks, will try that, hope I can get it to work
[19:30] <inetpro> do it the Nike way and just do it! :-)
[19:30] <Langjan> ok here goes
[19:40] <Langjan> inetpro,  did I lose you on "and then 5" ? Do I create a folder no. 5? I pasted the files into the no 4 folder, did not work. 
[19:40] <inetpro> ai!
[19:41] <Langjan> sorry!
[19:41] <inetpro> oom Langjan, that waas meant to be step 1, step 2, step 3, step 4 and then step 5
[19:41] <inetpro> was*
[19:43] <inetpro> surely by now you kmow exactly what folders we are talking about?
[19:43] <inetpro> know*
[19:44] <inetpro> do don't even have to do it on the cli
[19:45] <inetpro> yikes, my typing is yuck when I try to type fast
[19:45] <inetpro> you don't*
[19:46] <Langjan> No, sorry, when you say profile I assume you mean the .thunderbird file, but which folder? I dont see a profile/mail/account 
[19:46] <inetpro> obviously
[19:47] <inetpro> the .thunderbird folder is the base folder for thunderbird profiles
[19:47] <inetpro> inside that you will typically get the profile folder with a funny name, for example 12345.default
[19:47] <Langjan> thks, that s about all I know
[19:48] <inetpro> inside that you should find a Mail folder
[19:48] <inetpro> inside that you will find an account folder
[19:48] <Langjan> ok now on track
[19:49] <inetpro> and then you will typically see the files Inbox, Inbox.msf, Trash, Trash.msf
[19:50] <Langjan> which I have deleted... then pasted backups and loading, hope thats right
[19:50] <inetpro> sounds right to me
[19:51] <Langjan> then runb thunderbird -p and start on default profile offline mode?
[19:52] <inetpro> well offline mode is just to gives you a chance to correct things without mixing what is online with what you restored from backup
[19:52] <inetpro> basically just so you can see whether everything is ok before going online
[19:53]  * inetpro likes to make sure and test one step at a time 
[19:54] <inetpro> others don't like to do things the slow route
[19:54] <Langjan> Praise the Lord for brilliance - its all there, many thanks inetpro , once again. I felt sick when I saw what I had done but was sure you would guide me out of trouble once more. 
[19:54] <inetpro> nice job!
[19:54] <Langjan> oh but the over-70's cannot do the shortcuts
[19:55] <Langjan> baie dankie! ek voel oppiekoppie! cool!
[19:55] <inetpro> mooi :-)
[19:55] <Langjan> You must travel along Rachel de Beer often?
[19:55] <inetpro> yep
[19:56] <inetpro> every day
[19:56] <Langjan> Seen the new JMC showroom corner of Burger?
[19:56] <inetpro> hmm... 
[19:57] <Langjan> Next to Rainbow Motors
[19:57]  * inetpro maybe needs to go look tomorrow
[19:57] <inetpro> you work there?
[19:58] <Langjan> its in the second block after the first robot as you enter the commercial area from your side, on right-hand
[19:58] <inetpro> I think I know where that is
[19:58] <Langjan> Its my son-in-law's business
[19:59] <inetpro> you have a new car standing ready for me? :-) 
[19:59] <Langjan> FJ Labuschagne, pop in and say hello if you get a chance, great guy
[19:59] <Langjan> wish I could, you deserve one...
[19:59] <inetpro> haha... sorry, I shall take that back 
[19:59] <Langjan> pronoounced efjay
[20:00] <inetpro> when I have a spare moment I will go say hi
[20:00] <Langjan> OK I will leave you to it, have a good evening
[20:01] <Langjan> do that 
[20:01] <inetpro> Langjan: you're most welcome
[20:01] <Langjan> May the Lord bless you 
[20:01] <Langjan> lekker slaap
[20:01] <inetpro> thanks oom
[20:02] <inetpro> goeie nagrus ook daar
[20:02] <Langjan> baie dankie