[05:19] morning all and sundry [05:19] oh and inetpro [05:40] morning all [06:19] mornings [06:39] Morning [06:39] thatgraemeguy: why did you go lowercase? [06:53] More [07:15] good mornings [07:20] How you inetpro [07:22] dag se julle [07:25] Squirm: why did't you? ;-p [07:38] hi Kilos, thatgraemeguy [07:40] 'lo :) [07:47] barrydk: good and yourself? [07:52] Good inetpro [07:59] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/t31.0-8/11802611_10153602436300528_3010507034654948574_o.jpg <==== how to ride a bike [08:28] hi barrydk thatgraemeguy [08:33] hi gremble Xethron [08:52] Hey Kilos [10:14] helo [10:56] Weird. My join messages are still here, by the part messages left >.> [11:09] inetpro: do you use any asset registry software? [11:10] superfly: hmm... for our open source environment? Good question, unfortunately the answer is no [11:12] superfly: what are you looking at? [11:12] inetpro: more for hardware. I'm looking for something that I can use to keep track of our hardware (and possibly software) [11:12] have you looked at ansible? [11:13] No, I'll take a look. [11:13] ansible all -m setup [11:13] outputs a ton of info [11:14] just can't say that I am using it effectively just yet [11:14] but that on it's own could be very useful to keep track of [11:18] must say it is very quick and easy to start using ansible [11:25] just ansible-playbook and other stuff gets much more complicated and I still need to spend much more time with it [11:26] * inetpro likes the concept behind it [17:25] good evening [17:47] whuzzup [17:50] sanibonani [17:53] Kilos: you ok? [17:56] How are you inetpro? [17:56] Why would Kilos be not-okay? [17:56] ya kinda [17:57] bit worried about ops otherwise good [17:57] ops? [17:57] and inetpro ill most likely miss our meet and the africa one [17:57] sigh [17:57] ya gremble gotta go for prostate and hernia ops [17:57] ai! [17:58] :/ [17:58] That sucks [17:58] Kilos: when? [17:58] in our wonderful hospitals [17:58] going on monday early inetpro [17:58] maybe they dont admit same time then its ok [17:59] they doing it all at once? [17:59] i dont know [17:59] here they first want to practise testing everything fo 2 weeks first [17:59] sigh [17:59] so who knows [18:00] hmm... [18:01] gremble: I was asking because he's been very quiet here lately [18:01] if i go in ill be offline i think [18:01] i been resting lots sorry inetpro [18:07] wbb [18:11] any ideas? my kde cannot copy paste files to android fones memory card [18:12] is the something that needs installing? [18:12] i can see all the files android saves there but cannot paste other files to it [18:13] That is odd. Perhaps you don't have write permissions? [18:14] gvfs-mtp and gvfs-libmtp is what you need. But if you can see the files, you probaly already have these libraries installed [18:14] (I think they probably come by default these days) [18:15] http://askubuntu.com/questions/87667 perhaps? [18:15] Hey Langjan [18:16] hi gremble [18:18] hi Kilos- [18:18] hi Langjan === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [18:18] hoe gaan dit? [18:18] goed dankie en self? [18:19] OK dankie maar het drooggemaak [18:19] wat nou [18:19] Long story [18:19] tell [18:20] by you or linda? [18:20] Lindas Vodamail has been lost 'cause she gave her simcard away [18:20] oh my [18:20] so now we decided to open a new account for her on my domain [18:20] thunderbird will still see what was there [18:21] ok [18:21] she should have first mailed her contacts that she is changing [18:21] so I deleted her account, thinking I can just register a new one, but did not realise that if I delete the account all the mails are also lost! [18:22] get the sim back for a day [18:22] so now can I go thro the same process that inetpro did too get them back? [18:22] ehe [18:22] hehe too [18:22] We cant, its gone [18:22] oh my [18:23] you will need all those commands and modify them to see the new account i think [18:23] so now how can I transfer them to a new account? [18:23] lol carefully [18:24] im lost here sir you will need to call on pro again [18:25] well first I have to get them back, will a repeat of the last few steps of the other night do the trick or must I set the new account up first? [18:25] maybe [18:25] set new account first [18:25] then see if voda wont forward them all for you [18:25] ok let me do that [18:27] no I dont think that will work, they were kept for 14 days only on the server [18:27] eish [18:28] i leave mine there forever [18:28] sometimes spend hours deleting useless mals [18:28] good idea if you have the capacity available, voda gives 3 gig I think [18:28] oh [18:29] so if you let it get to big, "mailbox full" [18:29] eish [18:30] i have no idea how big gmails is but i have 5 g there already on one account [18:30] how is she going to notify all contacts [18:30] i man [18:31] ai! ook [18:31] by mail, only 40 contacts [18:31] oh as long as she has their addresses thats good [18:32] hi Cryterion [18:32] hi [18:36] oh Langjan you sure pro didnt get you back them up somewhere [18:37] i still have the backups [18:37] or were they al in that acount [18:37] then you might find them there [18:38] just tell TB where to find them i think [18:39] you could even reopen the voda account again [18:40] and dont delete it till you got everything forwarded youself to new addy [18:41] I think I must ask the pro what sequence I should follow now [18:44] perhaps I can register the new account and then import the mails to it instead [18:44] well when he guides you things work [18:45] have you seen him around? [18:45] but first make new account [18:45] ok will do [18:45] he was hear earlier [18:45] here [18:47] i need to sleep guys. have a successful evening and sleep tight [18:47] see you tomorrow [18:48] sleep well kilos [18:48] sleep well Kilos [18:48] ty [19:01] hi inetpro [19:14] hmm... [19:25] Langjan: hi [19:26] skuus oom, ek was besig met ander goed netnou [19:26] 1. set up new account in offline mode, 2. close Thunderbird 3. delete newly created files in 'profile/Mail/account' folder, 4. copy files from backup to 'profile/Mail/account' folder [19:26] hi inetpro [19:27] and then 5. start Thunderbird again [19:27] so maklik soos dit [19:28] I have set the new account up but not offline mode, does that complicate matters? [19:28] well if you had mails that got downloaded they will be gone [19:29] no mails, no problem [19:29] many thks, will try that, hope I can get it to work [19:30] do it the Nike way and just do it! :-) [19:30] ok here goes [19:40] inetpro, did I lose you on "and then 5" ? Do I create a folder no. 5? I pasted the files into the no 4 folder, did not work. [19:40] ai! [19:41] sorry! [19:41] oom Langjan, that waas meant to be step 1, step 2, step 3, step 4 and then step 5 [19:41] was* [19:43] surely by now you kmow exactly what folders we are talking about? [19:43] know* [19:44] do don't even have to do it on the cli [19:45] yikes, my typing is yuck when I try to type fast [19:45] you don't* [19:46] No, sorry, when you say profile I assume you mean the .thunderbird file, but which folder? I dont see a profile/mail/account [19:46] obviously [19:47] the .thunderbird folder is the base folder for thunderbird profiles [19:47] inside that you will typically get the profile folder with a funny name, for example 12345.default [19:47] thks, that s about all I know [19:48] inside that you should find a Mail folder [19:48] inside that you will find an account folder [19:48] ok now on track [19:49] and then you will typically see the files Inbox, Inbox.msf, Trash, Trash.msf [19:50] which I have deleted... then pasted backups and loading, hope thats right [19:50] sounds right to me [19:51] then runb thunderbird -p and start on default profile offline mode? [19:52] well offline mode is just to gives you a chance to correct things without mixing what is online with what you restored from backup [19:52] basically just so you can see whether everything is ok before going online [19:53] * inetpro likes to make sure and test one step at a time [19:54] others don't like to do things the slow route [19:54] Praise the Lord for brilliance - its all there, many thanks inetpro , once again. I felt sick when I saw what I had done but was sure you would guide me out of trouble once more. [19:54] nice job! [19:54] oh but the over-70's cannot do the shortcuts [19:55] baie dankie! ek voel oppiekoppie! cool! [19:55] mooi :-) [19:55] You must travel along Rachel de Beer often? [19:55] yep [19:56] every day [19:56] Seen the new JMC showroom corner of Burger? [19:56] hmm... [19:57] Next to Rainbow Motors [19:57] * inetpro maybe needs to go look tomorrow [19:57] you work there? [19:58] its in the second block after the first robot as you enter the commercial area from your side, on right-hand [19:58] I think I know where that is [19:58] Its my son-in-law's business [19:59] you have a new car standing ready for me? :-) [19:59] FJ Labuschagne, pop in and say hello if you get a chance, great guy [19:59] wish I could, you deserve one... [19:59] haha... sorry, I shall take that back [19:59] pronoounced efjay [20:00] when I have a spare moment I will go say hi [20:00] OK I will leave you to it, have a good evening [20:01] do that [20:01] Langjan: you're most welcome [20:01] May the Lord bless you [20:01] lekker slaap [20:01] thanks oom [20:02] goeie nagrus ook daar [20:02] baie dankie