[00:00] <Sprx> anyone up feel like helping a noob with "make" errors
[00:00] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I'm still working with Super Talent/Asmedia to find the bug in their SSD boot ROM that locks systems up at boot time. Been sticking the logic analyser probe all over the pci-e signals as well as reverse-engineering the BIOS. Might get around to the boot guide in about 10 years at this rate :)
[00:00] <columbobaas> jepla, send the logs to k1l_
[00:01] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Haw ! logic probes are fun !
[00:01] <TJ-> Bashing-om: yeah, except when you're trying to decode gigahertz differential signals :)
[00:02] <alu> i didnt really get a quality output
[00:02] <cawinget1> so I wanna fix some super bad screen tearing. I'm in the compizConfig settings manager, and I was told to set Sync to VBlank to enabled, under Display Settings, but there's no option to add that.
[00:02] <alu> it says cuda cores 1024 in nvidia-settings gui
[00:02] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Talk Talent/Asmedia into providing you with a high end o'scope ?
[00:02] <alu> for that command tho it says Attribute value is an integer not wrirten to the rc file and whatever
[00:03] <TJ-> Bashing-om: If I thought it'd come in handy again I'd get one, but I rarely need that kind of diagnostic capability. Although I have to say, hardware hacking is much more deterministic than all these software bugs!
[00:03] <alu> downloading off nvidia site now
[00:04] <TJ-> alu: you can use the --terse option to get just the numbers, as in "nvidia-settings -tq CUDACores" ... see "nvidia-settings --help"
[00:05] <cawinget1> I installed compton and screen tearing goes away, but I have to disable display compositing in the window manager tweaks, so my dock application doesn't work. Is there a way to make compton my compositor instead of compiz?
[00:09] <Bashing-om> TJ-: OId school. Little green light on the card is orange ... and come to find out , is the software closing the port. Just is not a perfect world .
[00:13] <vdrey> lol
[00:13] <vdrey> lol
[00:13] <vdrey> lol
[00:13] <vdrey> hi
[00:13] <vdrey> hi
[00:13] <vdrey> hi'
[00:13] <popey> vdrey: you can stop that now
[00:16] <anonymous> cripter
[00:26] <NGC3982> Have any of you guys used Darkbot?
[00:31] <w2vy> w2vy
[00:34] <pablotron> Hello hello
[00:34] <columbobaas> Ha patron
[00:35] <Koning> Howdy how
[00:36] <pablotron> How do I create a symlink/hardlink/not sure to my music on another drive?
[00:37] <LambdaComplex> pablotron: man ln
[00:37] <Koning> easy
[00:37] <LambdaComplex> Pretty sure you'd wanna use symlinks
[00:37] <Koning> ln -s /source/folder /target/folder
[00:37] <Koning> You can also mount it in your fstab
[00:38] <negrondiablo> ok
[00:40] <pablotron> oh, using amarok its under /media/pablo/1tb instead of /mnt like i was expecting
[00:40] <pablotron> Thanks though
[00:41] <bluzeo> hey what the best alternive too dropbox?
[00:41] <pablotron> google drive
[00:41] <columbobaas> bluezo Mega
[00:41] <columbobaas> bluzeo mega
[00:42] <bluzeo> i want something more private then those- i been told about syncthing but it very confusing to me how it works
[00:45] <Izzabel> im a new Linux user. im trying to set up xfce
[00:48] <Bashing-om> Izzabel: And ? What is the problem ?
[00:49] <Izzabel> Bashing-om thus far no problem. thx
[00:50] <Bashing-om> Izzabel: :) I toll have a peference for xfce . Be aware there is a channel here devoted just to xfce - #xfce .
[00:51] <Izzabel> Bashing-om: ty
[01:00] <kayzarg> hola
[01:00] <kayzarg> una pregunta
[01:00] <xangua> !es
[01:00] <pablotron> That's very helpful
[01:01] <Koning> sudo apt-get install english.exe
[01:14] <Kali_Yuga> I have a question... I don't know how to unmount or remove the Virtual CD/DVD Drive in KDE any ideas??? heres a picture  what I mean http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=15884315 hope somebody can help ???
[01:16] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: have a look at the output of "mount"
[01:16] <daftykins> pretty sure you can umount it
[01:17] <prajyot> hi, I have bought hp 15-r250tu laptop and then i installed ubuntu in it, everything worked fine in this laptop except when i try to shutdown the computer. All processes exits, harddisk light goes off but screen is still running in processor light is also running, I have to press and hold powerbutton to shut it down. How to fix this problem ?
[01:17] <Kali_Yuga> thx wait I look... I am living with that for quite some time... I mean I can unmount the CD but I cant remove the "loop device"
[01:27] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: well why are you doing this, to start with? :)
[01:28] <Kali_Yuga> mounting Cd's??
[01:28] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: why?
[01:28] <Kali_Yuga> cuz I want to use them
[01:29] <daftykins> but what are they to know why you use them in mounted form?
[01:29] <Kali_Yuga> like all kinds of shit ^^
[01:29] <Kali_Yuga> oh sorry unappropriat language i know sry
[01:30] <nokdim> is it possible to setup an ubuntu box to use pam_radius and suth userrs but not need a local account or home directory?
[01:30] <Kali_Yuga> i don't want to burn them to cd and this is way easier
[01:31] <daftykins> and you didn't find an answer looking this up? :)
[01:31] <Kali_Yuga> I didn't even understand the question though
[01:31] <daftykins> perhaps time to read: http://wiki.osdev.org/Loopback_Device and http://serverfault.com/questions/58991/cant-unmount-a-loop-backed-file-but-theres-no-open-files
[01:32] <daftykins> but you're the one asking it XD
[01:33] <Kali_Yuga> yes thx daftykins it always tells me device is busy and stuff like that thx alot!!!!
[01:33] <daftykins> note that those were the top search engine results
[01:34] <nokdim> anyone ubuntu box with pam_raduis for auth but not need a home directory or local user account?
[01:34] <Kali_Yuga> yes but this only unmounts the cd in the virtual drive... it does not remove the virtual drive though :(
[01:35] <Kali_Yuga> there is only the option to "hide" the Virtual drive
[01:36] <Kali_Yuga> As soon as I restart there gone at least that
[01:37] <daftykins> i think you're following the above links wrong.
[01:38] <Kali_Yuga> what do you mean?
[01:38] <daftykins> as in you're not doing it right
[01:39] <nokdim> is it possible to setup an ubuntu box to use pam_radius and auth users but not need a local account or home directory?
[01:40] <unico> Ok.
[01:40] <Kali_Yuga> ok give me a second chance
[01:40] <Kali_Yuga> hold on
[01:41] <ubskeur> I was wondering what my options are for graphics drivers, since the default ones aren't as fast as I'd like and fglrx is broken
[01:42] <vasi> Hi! It seems there have been a few Chromium point-releases since the latest chromium-browser package in Ubuntu. Do those usually end up packaged? Is there a staging repo I can look at if I need to use one of these releases?
[01:47] <Kali_Yuga> ubskeur: you can look under your setting and use the propriatary graphics driver of your card... was that you question?
[01:47] <Kali_Yuga> *r
[01:47] <ubskeur> Kali_Yuga, the proprietary driver in the settings are fglrx, which causes some sort of crash whenever I log in
[01:48] <ubskeur> Kali_Yuga, I was wondering if there were options beyond fglrx
[01:48] <OerHeks> fglrx-updates maybe?
[01:48] <ubskeur> ok, I'll try both of those
[01:49] <ubskeur> just in case I can't log in, how would I revert the drivers from command line?
[01:50] <chalcedony> my husband had a network card failure with his last computer (being fixed). he's using my other computer in the meantime, but atm when he plugs in a lan cable it doesn't see the network. ifconfig only shows lo (not eth) 127.0.0.1 and inet 255.0.0.0
[01:50] <skinny> hi gays
[01:51] <notGallo> snicker
[01:51] <Kali_Yuga> ok I was able to force unmount with "umount -f" option
[01:51] <ubskeur> ok, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it I guess
[01:52] <Kali_Yuga> ubskeur: thats an Ati card that you have right
[01:52] <phix> skinny: what about the rest of us?  you say hi too?
[01:53] <notGallo> ubskeur: i used fglrx a year ago. it was terrible. crashed X when i used functions that it didn't like, such as adjusting voltages and fanspeeds and clockspeeds. unfortunately i found the fix was to get an nvidia GPU :/
[01:53] <daftykins> ubskeur: you've tried both fglrx and fglrx-updates i take it?
[01:53] <ubskeur> daftykins, about to try them both now
[01:53] <daftykins> notGallo: er, that's more of a sign not to overclock than them being bad... (though yes AMD on Linux suck :) )
[01:53] <ubskeur> notGallo, I don't want to get a different gpu
[01:53] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx* && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[01:53] <ubskeur> OerHeks, thanks
[01:54] <ubskeur> Kali_Yuga, yes, radeon r9 290
[01:54] <notGallo> oh dear that's not a card to throw away :(
[01:54] <ubskeur> no
[01:54] <ahemlockslie> I think my installation may be hung. It's been on the "Who are you" screen for 15 minutes, maybe more, where it asks for password and such. Is there some way I can check? Nothing seems to be eating much CPU when I run "ps aux", which I find troubling.
[01:54] <Kali_Yuga> well thats installing the open-source driver I thought he wanted the propriatary one
[01:54] <ubskeur> I was going to get the gtx 970 but the local shop lied about it being available from them at all
[01:54] <ubskeur> Kali_Yuga, I want to be able to revert the change when my computer locks me out
[01:54] <Kali_Yuga> oh no reverting back in terminal sorry forgot
[01:55] <ubskeur> Kali_Yuga, :P
[01:55] <chalcedony> can someone help me please with network settings on my husband's ubuntu 14.04?
[01:55] <Kali_Yuga> forgot sry
[01:55] <ubskeur> installing fglrx-updates, see you on the other side
[01:55] <chalcedony> good luck ubskeur :)
[01:57] <OerHeks> chalcedony, try a fresh lan cable, network cards are normally fine detected, and should have no issues.
[01:57] <chalcedony> OerHeks, ive tried 3 cables
[01:58] <ubskeur> chalcedony, have you checked all the basic settings?
[01:58] <chalcedony> just ifconfig
[01:58] <Kali_Yuga> thats a huge grphics card reading something about a binary Catalyst driver
[01:58] <ubskeur> chalcedony, go into your network settings and see if stuff is off that should be on
[01:59] <chalcedony> ubskeur, i can't find stuff on his computer, if you can tell me what to do i'll do it?
[01:59] <ubskeur> chalcedony, go tot he launcher (usually top left or press the super key next to alt) and type in system settings
[02:00] <chalcedony> ubskeur, ok let me do that let's see
[02:00] <ubskeur> chalcedony, there will be a network icon, 2nd row between mouse and power
[02:00] <ubskeur> hopefully
[02:01] <chalcedony> indeed hopefully
[02:01] <ahemlockslie> My Ubuntu installation hasn't shown any sign of progress in over half an hour, and I'm afraid to cancel since I don't know what it's done to my partitions. Is there any way I can see if it's stuck?
[02:01] <daftykins> ahemlockslie: well 'top' would be a lot better than ps
[02:02] <ahemlockslie> I did tell it to encrypt my home folder, but nothing is really eating CPU but firefox
[02:02] <daftykins> disk LED?
[02:02] <Kali_Yuga> it doesn't take that long to install ubuntu in general ? maybe it really froze
[02:02] <ahemlockslie> Nope.
[02:02] <ahemlockslie> No LED
[02:02] <daftykins> as in you don't have one or it's not lit? ;)
[02:03] <ubskeur> ahemlockslie, is there an option on the installation window to show terminal or something?
[02:03] <ahemlockslie> Not lit
[02:03] <daftykins> i'd give up if i were you
[02:03] <ahemlockslie> I'm doing this from the installation PC, so yeah, I have terminal
[02:03] <ubskeur> ahemlockslie, you can always redo the installation and hope it doesn't take as long
[02:03] <ahemlockslie> I worry it might corrupt my Windows partition if I'm not careful
[02:03] <daftykins> ahemlockslie: that won't be mounted
[02:03] <ubskeur> ahemlockslie, unlikely
[02:03] <Kali_Yuga> does ctrl + alt + T work while installation?
[02:04] <ahemlockslie> Or at least render it inaccessible until I reburn Ubuntu if the CD is at fault, but it verified fine after burning
[02:04] <daftykins> how else do you two think ps got run?
[02:04] <ahemlockslie> Well, less the Windows partition, more the MBR
[02:04] <ahemlockslie> And partition table
[02:04] <daftykins> just reset, it'll be fine.
[02:04] <daftykins> you made backups before installing anyway right...
[02:04] <ahemlockslie> Yeah, I just reinstalled Windows like two weeks ago, all my back ups are pretty current, it's just...
[02:05] <ahemlockslie> Not again D:
[02:05] <ahemlockslie> please no
[02:05] <daftykins> chop chop.
[02:05] <Kali_Yuga> can you open terminal ??
[02:05] <ahemlockslie> Yeah
[02:05] <Kali_Yuga> type top
[02:05] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:05] <daftykins> i already said that :P
[02:05] <ahemlockslie> ps aux and top both show pretty low CPU usage outside of Firefox and various desktop things
[02:05] <Kali_Yuga> oh
[02:05] <Kali_Yuga> and?
[02:06] <Kali_Yuga> a nothing but firefox
[02:06] <ahemlockslie> Just about nothing, yeah
[02:06] <chalcedony> ubskeur, "the system network settings are not compatible with this version"
[02:06] <chalcedony> ubskeur, it shows network and network settings - which is a window that is blank
[02:06] <Kali_Yuga> yes reset and overwrite that partition and do it again
[02:07] <daftykins> chalcedony: what led to being misconfigured?
[02:07] <ahemlockslie> Some activity from various kworker threads, a bit of rcuos/2 and rcu_sched, but that's most of it
[02:07] <ubskeur> daftykins, I don't think it was using ethernet before
[02:07] <chalcedony> ubskeur, daftykins i haven't a clue. maybe trying to get it to work with the non-working motherbaord's card?
[02:07] <daftykins> chalcedony: ah you mentioned it's an old system, interesting - no eth0 is bad, you definitely don't have anything else from "ifconfig -a" ?
[02:07] <ahemlockslie> Those last few things and everything else are showing tenths of a percent of CPU usage, if anything
[02:08] <chalcedony> daftykins, let me go see what ifconfig -a does
[02:08] <ubskeur> I just realised that the "progress bar" in the additional drivers window was a scroll bar
[02:08] <ubskeur> brb reboot
[02:08] <Kali_Yuga> how old is that pc???
[02:08] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: please don't jump on issues other people are dealing with, nor ask questions that won't help.
[02:08] <ahemlockslie> I'm just gonna give up and leave it running overnight. It's almost certainly stuck, but if it's not, I don't want to ruin it, and I have no other plans for the PC tonight anyway, so it's harmless to let it run.
[02:09] <ahemlockslie> Thanks anyway for the help, everyone
[02:09] <daftykins> sounds like a waste of time but ok :)
[02:09] <ubskeur> it appears that my issue was only in fglrx and using fglrx-updates has solved this
[02:09] <daftykins> huzzah!
[02:10] <ubskeur> !yay
[02:10] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: I just wanted to say if it's an really old Pc Lubuntu might be better anyway?
[02:10] <ahemlockslie> daftykins: I can either shut it down and go to bed, or go to bed and let it run, but either way, nothing else is happening, so what could it hurt?
[02:10] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: the issue is getting a NIC running, not picking DE.
[02:11] <daftykins> ahemlockslie: guess someone else pays the bills ;)
[02:12] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: I wasn't talking to the guy with network issues I was still typing to that guy that couldn't install ubuntu cuz it froze...
[02:12] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: I'm a little slow
[02:13] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: you read the wrong user then.
[02:13] <ubskeur> open source drivers: 9fps. proprietary drivers: 60fps
[02:13] <ubskeur> \o/
[02:13] <chalcedony> daftykins, that gives me eth2 and lo
[02:13] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: i know you mean well but it's only really worth offering help when you have experience.
[02:13] <notGallo> ubskeur: yup :(
[02:13] <daftykins> chalcedony: sounds like eth2 is the target then, try running "sudo dhclient eth2"
[02:14] <chalcedony> daftykins, ok ty much :)
[02:15] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: I can help... when it's getting to complicated i shut up... I'm not totally stupid. fixing every computer around here though
[02:16] <daftykins> that's nice
[02:16] <OerHeks> ubskeur, have fun :-)
[02:20] <chalcedony> daftykins, i don't think that's working. it sits there. 2nd time its not asking for password even
[02:21] <daftykins> you must've used sudo just prior
[02:21] <daftykins> so if this is an old machine, what distro is it? or rather, which desktop environment?
[02:21] <supercom32> Question: I have a USB keyboard. If I stop typing for a short period it appears that it goes to sleep or something. Because the next character I enter gets lost and I have to push the key a second time before it registers. Anyone know how to solve this?
[02:21] <thedanyes> supercom32: wireless?
[02:22] <supercom32> Literally, if I stop typing for like 5-10 seconds, it does this. Nope, not wireless. Wired.
[02:22] <daftykins> supercom32: are you using a USB 3 port? switch to 2 if so
[02:22] <thedanyes> supercom32: what model keyboard?
[02:22] <supercom32> I can double check, but I think I'm using 2.0? I have a logitech washable keyboard
[02:22] <supercom32> I forget the model number
[02:23] <thedanyes> supercom32: you can check dmesg and syslog for errors. might be losing connection or something.
[02:23] <thedanyes> supercom32: Actually, first thing I'd probably try is swap keyboards.
[02:24] <supercom32> I plugged my keyboard into the front where I know for sure it has USB 2.0. We'll see if that does anything. Though I dunno why USB 3.0 would do that
[02:24] <chalcedony> daftykins, its a new computer. good power supply. the hard drive is whatever he's running - ubuntu 14.04
[02:24] <daftykins> chalcedony: oh so you transplanted it from the faulty system and booted up?
[02:24] <chalcedony> daftykins, yes
[02:25] <daftykins> mmm that is what resulted in having eth2
[02:25] <supercom32> thedanyes: Suppose the issue is USB 3.0 ports, can anything be done about it?
[02:25] <chalcedony> daftykins, efforts to get the other one to work, yes most probably
[02:26] <daftykins> you should not use peripherals in USB 3.0 ports
[02:26] <daftykins> supercom32: it's pretty obvious which ones are 3.0, they'll either have an SS logo beside them, or be blue
[02:26] <thedanyes> supercom32: well you could stop using that port for that keyboard.
[02:26] <daftykins> chalcedony: is it the normal unity desktop?
[02:26] <thedanyes> supercom32: Personally, I haven't encountered any problems with USB 3.0 recently, I use it pretty extensively for external HDD.
[02:26] <supercom32> thedayes: All the ports in the back of my PC are blue. But the USB ports on the front which connect directly to the internal motherboard connectors are USB 2.0 for sure.
[02:27] <daftykins> HDDs aren't peripherals :)
[02:27] <chalcedony> daftykins, essentially. he's also running whatever that's called that makes multiple desktops
[02:27] <thedanyes> supercom32: logitech washable thing is like the silicon flexy deal?
[02:27] <thedanyes> silicone*
[02:28] <supercom32> @thedanyes: Nah, its this = http://www.logitech.com/en-sg/product/washable-keyboard-k310
[02:28] <daftykins> chalcedony: hrmm, so the network card from the motherboard that is faulty was a separate card and you still have it?
[02:29] <daftykins> i think plugging it in will allow it to appear in that install as eth0 and possibly resume working
[02:29] <Kali_Yuga> funny keyboard :)
[02:29] <chalcedony> daftykins, it was onboard, a new gigabyte board, they are repairing (under warranty)
[02:29] <daftykins> ah ok so not an option
[02:29] <chalcedony> yes
[02:30] <daftykins> well, sounds to me like you either need to stop network manager or fight it into dealing with *that* systems NIC instead
[02:30] <chalcedony> great
[02:31] <lkthomas> anyone using KDE on Ubuntu now? does KDE still use more resources than Unity ?
[02:31] <daftykins> so first up try a reboot, "sudo service network-manager stop" then "sudo dhclient eth2" again
[02:31] <chalcedony> ok
[02:31] <chalcedony> ty
[02:31] <daftykins> chalcedony: if you know the IP schema of your home network you could also just statically address the adapter temporarily and see if it works.
[02:32] <daftykins> chalcedony: e.g. "sudo ifconfig eth2 192.168.x.x netmask 255.255.255.0" then try pinging your router to see if the adapter is working
[02:32] <Kali_Yuga> lkthomas: I think a little more yes I use kde
[02:32] <lkthomas> Kali_Yuga, how is general stability ?
[02:32] <chalcedony> daftykins, yes i'll try that
[02:32] <Kali_Yuga> lkthomas: I don't have any problems with it works just fine for me
[02:33] <lkthomas> Kali_Yuga, OK, let me try to install it when I have time, thanks
[02:33] <Kali_Yuga> ok
[02:33] <daftykins> lkthomas: also bear in mind there's a #kubuntu
[02:33] <lkthomas> daftykins, OH OK
[02:33] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: they never answer there
[02:34] <daftykins> maybe they don't like you :)
[02:34] <Nelson> hello
[02:34] <Nelson> .
[02:34] <lkthomas> LOL
[02:34] <daftykins> hi
[02:34] <daftykins> ugh.
[02:34] <Kali_Yuga> they maybe don't
[02:34] <Johnny_Linux> na, that room has crickets
[02:37] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: why do you think I ask here and not in #kubuntu cuz they just ignore me :(
[02:37] <daftykins> many reasons really :) but i can't repeat them here
[02:38] <lkthomas> how about Cinnamon desktop? any good ?
[02:39] <Kali_Yuga> lkthomas: I have no experience with it
[02:39] <lkthomas> Kali_Yuga, alright :)
[02:39] <daftykins> lkthomas: this is more a support channel, preference and opinion chat can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <lkthomas> okay
[02:41] <Kali_Yuga> daftykins: your answer scared me a little xD
[02:42] <lkthomas> who the hell is daftykins ? mod in this channel? :P
[02:42] <lkthomas> I think it's matter of time before I get a kick, haha
[02:43] <thedanyes> lkthomas: Do you dislike Unity?
[02:43] <Kali_Yuga> everybody dislikes unity or not?
[02:43] <thedanyes> I love it.
[02:44] <lkthomas> thedanyes, I like it a lot, but I am a little more demanding in terms of features
[02:44] <thedanyes> The Amazon thing was dumb, but I don't mind disabling it, and supposedly they made it opt-in in newer versions.
[02:45] <thedanyes> lkthomas: I find there's sometimes a trade-off between stability, ease-of-productivity, and features.
[02:45] <lkthomas> thedanyes, I am pretty sure Ubuntu guy are getting rebates from Amazon
[02:45] <chalcedony> daftykins, this was supposed to be *my* computer. i had to disable ipv6 to get it to boot properly on debian squeeze. i wonder if any of that messed with its abilities, because now it has an ip, it tries to ping.. but gets nothing
[02:45] <lkthomas> thedanyes, some of our desktop users having issue like clock disappear, desktop hang...etc with Unity
[02:46] <Tyrandis> whats up guys
[02:46] <thedanyes> lkthomas: hmm what version of Ubuntu and what graphics driver?
[02:46] <daftykins> chalcedony: are you pinging the router IP or a web address?
[02:46] <lkthomas> thedanyes, 14.04, Nvidia 331
[02:46] <chalcedony> daftykins, *1.1 and another address on the lan. still nothing
[02:46] <thedanyes> lkthomas: strange.  that's pretty much what i'm running (14.04.3 + NVIDIA 355.06)
[02:47] <lkthomas> thedanyes, well, that two users is very demanding, those crash never appear to any other users but two of them
[02:47] <chalcedony> daftykins, i could try other cables, but i doubt it's the cable
[02:47] <daftykins> chalcedony: does 'ifconfig -a' show any 'dropped' beside eth2?
[02:47] <chalcedony> daftykins, let me see
[02:47] <daftykins> also check for any clues from "dmesg | tail"
[02:48] <thedanyes> I ran KDE back in the 3.5.10 days and it was fine, but even then the 'good' applications menu was unstable (the one that let you type to search).  I totally abandoned KDE in the 4.1/4.2 days because it was so unstable and they'd removed so many basic features.
[02:48] <lkthomas> thedanyes, heard about it too
[02:48] <thedanyes> lkthomas: huh.  no info in the logs?  can they just run 'unity' at the command line to restart unity and get their clock back?
[02:49] <daftykins> folks take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[02:49] <lkthomas> thedanyes, I just ask them reboot
[02:49] <lkthomas> let's move to offtopic
[02:52] <thedanyes> daftykins: is there a guide to what is considered off topic for #ubuntu?
[02:52] <thedanyes> daftykins: I read IRC guidelines
[02:53] <keviv> k1l_: sorry to get back so late lol, apparently it needs a -desktop flag if there's no controlling terminal. Why it doesn't just check that and plan accordingly I have no idea
[02:53] <daftykins> thedanyes: this is a support channel, so if it's not *buntu support - it's OT :)
[02:54] <daftykins> see the topic for more
[02:56] <OneM_Industries> Where can I find a list of all supported wifi chipsets?
[02:57] <OneM_Industries> I found the #1 place for wifi modules that work with linux for cheap, adafruit's raspberry pi section, and I want to make extra sure about the compatibility.
[02:57] <keviv> OneM_Industries: You planning on running ubuntu on it?
[02:57] <keviv> OneM_Industries: Or more like raspbian?
[02:57] <OneM_Industries> No, grandma's laptop.
[02:57] <keviv> oh hah
[02:58] <chalcedony> daftykins, "dmesg | tail" shows it trying to ping from eth2. ifconfig -a looks ok, and still nothing on ping.
[02:58] <OneM_Industries> The wifi is not working on that, so I need a linux compatible usb wifi chip.
[02:58] <daftykins> chalcedony: ok, i think you should boot a live session on this machine and see if the adapter works at all on a clean setup
[02:59] <chalcedony> daftykins, let me ask him if he has a live cd sompeplace thank you :)
[02:59] <daftykins> np
[03:00] <Stawidy> ...
[03:02] <OneM_Industries> Anyone?
[03:04] <Walkerdine> a wifi chip for raspberry pi?
[03:04] <daftykins> !hardware
[03:04] <daftykins> no for an x86 laptop
[03:05] <OneM_Industries> I figure, if it works with the pi, it will work with the computer, right?
[03:05] <daftykins> bit of a stretch.
[03:06] <OneM_Industries> Just tried the one I have in this computer, I can see and use wireless!
[03:07] <daftykins> wow that wasn't your first idea? :)
[03:08] <OneM_Industries> Well, looked like this specific one was out of stock, so I figured it did not hurt to have the full list handy...
[03:09] <skittishtrigger> when using rm -rf or any other deletion command in terminal is there a delay or cache of some sort that needs to be cleared before the space becomes available? (Deleted several folders with roughly 2Gb of files and its not showing up as available)
[03:09] <OneM_Industries> Bingo! http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Wireless-802-11n-RTL8188CUS-Raspberry/dp/B00H28H8DU
[03:10] <nszceta> skittishtrigger type "sync"
[03:10] <zanzibizarre> Yo wassup!
[03:10] <nszceta> Y0
[03:10] <zanzibizarre> bazhang: Can you help me with my ubuntu setup liek you promised?
[03:10] <skittishtrigger> thank you very much nszceta
[03:10] <zanzibizarre> hi nszceta. How's it going?
[03:11] <ElevyNJ> Help I'm an idiot and messed up network manager. I have a fresh Ubuntu DVD how can I fix my system?
[03:11] <zanzibizarre> is nszceta pronounced: necessita?
[03:11] <nszceta> struggling with stupid JS/DOM issues
[03:11] <zanzibizarre> i <3 JS + DOM
[03:11] <nszceta> en "S" "zet" "tsehtah"
[03:11] <zanzibizarre> Gotcha
[03:11] <nszceta> 4 syllables
[03:12] <OneM_Industries> !offtopic
[03:12] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: messed it up how?
[03:13] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, No idea but  I have a red circle with a line through it on the top bar, no networking and now it won't mount any DVD I insert. I get an Error mounting messge
[03:13] <daftykins> what do you hope to achieve by mounting the DVD?
[03:14] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, I was told yesterday that I could fix my system using it
[03:15] <daftykins> booting from, not mounting perhaps
[03:15] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: test the guest account before going any further
[03:15] <chalcedony> daftykins, im making him a dvd. may take a few
[03:17] <daftykins> chalcedony: no flash drives around the place?
[03:17] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, No networking in guest either
[03:17] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: so any ideas what you did?
[03:18] <muka_> how can I run maliit-keyboard?
[03:18] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, I may have been doing a system update but I thought it finished before I did a shutdown
[03:19] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, I guess a wipe and reinstall is in order?
[03:20] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: not necessarily, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get -f install" to start with, if it does nothing - nevermind, but if it spits out a whole bunch of stuff, share it via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, it wanted to remove a package I let it and now back at the shell
[03:25] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, still have the redcircle
[03:26] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: alright now run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ " (assuming you're using standard ubuntu with unity)
[03:27] <ElevyNJ> says already the newest version daftykins
[03:28] <daftykins> you did put the ^ at the end yes?
[03:28] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, oops mo
[03:29] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, it says it couldn't find the package
[03:29] <daftykins> did you typo?
[03:30] <ElevyNJ> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'ubuntu-desktop' was the final message daftykins
[03:30] <daftykins> mm
[03:31] <daftykins> changing tack, try "sudo apt-get purge network-manager" then "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[03:32] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, purging
[03:32] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, won't install says no installation candidate
[03:33] <Gallomimia> something up with your sources?
[03:33] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get update" and try agani, checking for typos.
[03:33] <daftykins> yeah sounds like something is mighty messed up there :P
[03:33] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: is this even ubuntu?
[03:33] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, I just built a USB drive with the cd image. I think the problem is I have NO network working
[03:33] <Gallomimia> cat /etc/issue
[03:34] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, yes it's Ubuntu
[03:34] <daftykins> 'built' ?
[03:34] <Gallomimia> is it booted from a liveCD ??
[03:34] <Gallomimia> (cd = usb stick these days)
[03:34] <Guest64124> hi ummmm I have network "pms" and I'm trying different  suff and lol just way will this not work ?   sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:34] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, used universial-usb installer to make another usb stick of the instal image from my Windows system
[03:35] <daftykins> Guest64124: first off your query doesn't make sense in English, second - that's an old command
[03:35] <daftykins> !broadcom | Guest64124 read here for the new
[03:35] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: right but why did you tell me about that?
[03:36] <Guest64124> ya sorry sleepy  lol
[03:36] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, apt-get update is complaining abot not being able to resolve anything. I know it won't resolve becayuse there is no network
[03:36] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, in case you wanted to use the USB as a source for install files
[03:36] <Gallomimia> aye... what does ifconfig tell you?
[03:36] <daftykins> yeah, i should've really twigged that networking issues might mean you're not online :D
[03:36] <ElevyNJ> Gallomimia, Only shows lo
[03:36] <Gallomimia> dats bad.
[03:37] <Gallomimia> so what networking devices does this system have? obv you're not talking to use with it?
[03:37] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: no run "ifconfig -a"
[03:37] <Guest64124> can anyone  help me  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx   I'm not that good with this
[03:37] <ElevyNJ> Gallomimia, the systen with no network has wifi and wired the wired is connected with a cable
[03:38] <Guest64124> I have been playing with this all day
[03:38] <daftykins> Guest64124: impressive given you only just now have the relevant help page ;)
[03:38] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, ifconfig -a only shows lo
[03:39] <Guest64124> lol no I was here before lol with the same page
[03:39] <bluzeo> hey guys - trying out ubuntu studio
[03:39] <Gallomimia> Guest64124: i'd love to but that help page made my eyes cross
[03:40] <Guest64124> lol
[03:41] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: sounds like you've not even got a supported network adapter present. is this a laptop?
[03:41] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, Yes it's a laptop. it was working last night until I borked it
[03:42] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: time to boot the flash drive then
[03:42] <daftykins> into 'try' mode
[03:42] <ElevyNJ> try as in try Ubuntu?
[03:42] <daftykins> yes
[03:42] <daftykins> well it's not a flash drive of beer is it? :)
[03:45] <bluzeo> ok i im switching back to LMDE till my debian disc comes- tried this for 3 hours and this distro is to much like windows
[03:45] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, bootig up and no beer
[03:45] <Guest64124> is there anything els I can do ?    the xubuntu runs fine just the wifi  is not working
[03:45] <ash_work> okay, I know I asked this earlier, but I think I had to ditch the room before I could get a response
[03:46] <tracyone> how to restart cron service in ubuntu 15.04
[03:46] <ash_work> are you supposed to do something in order to save changes when you add nomodeset to the grub menu thing (whats that called?)?
[03:47] <daftykins> ash_work: no just hit ctrl+x to boot if you're doing it as a one-time thing
[03:47] <ash_work> daftykins: k, that's what I did
[03:47] <daftykins> ash_work: editing it in GRUB there isn't the way to do it if you want it to be permanently set (but you shouldn't want that)
[03:47] <ash_work> I think because I shut it down improperly it didn't work
[03:48] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, Ok clicked on Try
[03:49] <daftykins> ash_work: what's the reason for trying nomodeset?
[03:49] <ash_work> the laptop doesn't wake up from suspend
[03:50] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, Deskop is up
[03:50] <ash_work> daftykins: seldomly it hangs on bootup
[03:51] <daftykins> !chroot | ElevyNJ follow this to chroot into your install and try fixing it up with a working network connection from the live session, or just nuke it - up to you.
[03:53] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, CLI is not my friend but I will try this
[03:54] <ash_work> any ideas, daftykins ?
[03:55] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: well you could just backup and reinstall, your call.
[03:55] <daftykins> ash_work: so you were trying nomodeset to rule out graphics drivers?
[03:56] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, doing a reinstall. The screen is half shot on the laptop. I have a second monitor 3 feet away making it awkward to type and look at the screen. Nothing of major importnce here
[03:58] <ash_work> daftykins: that was just the first thing that came up
[03:58] <ash_work> daftykins: when I googled the problem
[03:58] <daftykins> but that was the general idea?
[03:58] <ubskeur> ash_work, often a good idea to look for dates or version numbers on posts
[03:59] <Guest26044> Доброго утра.
[03:59] <ash_work> ubskeur: yeah, but there were several references pointing to the same issue; I thought that would give it some creedence
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !ru | Guest26044
[04:00] <ash_work> daftykins: I wasn
[04:00] <ash_work> daftykins: I wasn't really in "troubleshooting" mode, but I guess I could've viewed it that way
[04:00] <ubskeur> ash_work, solutions might have been good back in 2009 or 2012, but technology moves on
[04:00] <ash_work> daftykins: I was more in, "I hope this works" mode
[04:02] <daftykins> i think i'd have preferred you started your question with what was up, not the old xy problem :)
[04:02] <daftykins> anyway i'm calling it a night
[04:02] <ash_work> daftykins: not sure what that means :{
[04:03] <daftykins> it means cya
[04:03] <ash_work> daftykins: :P I meant the xy thing I didn't get but have a good night
[04:03] <ash_work> !*
[04:03] <daftykins> !xy
[04:04] <ash_work> daftykins: yeah, sorry, about that
[04:04] <ash_work> daftykins: that generally occurs from my feeble attempts at not being a help vamp
[04:06] <d21anthony> Just upgraded to 15.04 - Chrome Stable works great on my laptop but totally crashes my desktop. Didn't see any posts recently on the issue. Anybody else have that as an issue. FYI: clean installs rather than upgrades
[04:28] <coltfred> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 on my macbook and I was able to suspend by echoing mem into /sys/power/state until the last time I restarted. Now "mem" isn't in that file anymore. I can't seem to find anything online about this problem in particular, does anyone have any idea what caused mem to go missing from /sys/power/state?
[04:29] <roh_> how can i change kernel of ubuntu
[04:30] <cfhowlett> !kernel | roh
[04:31] <Bluewolf> Hi all, I'm having a problem with my LibreOffice, I'm using the dark version of Gnome which works with most of my applications, I can't get it to work with the window of LibreOffice, anyone have an idea? - http://imgur.com/z9XaEmB
[04:31] <Nelson1> hello
[04:31] <cfhowlett> Bluewolf, you should probably direct this to LO.  also: ask about installing themes.
[04:32] <Bluewolf> cfhowlett: I have, waiting a reply.
[04:33] <anton_> ДОброго дня вам
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !ru | anton_
[04:34] <roh_> what utility software i can use to boot ubuntu in usb
[04:35] <gbell> Why are we still unable to click on the Flash Player Settings dialog box in Firefox.  It's 2015!  This issue is 8+ years old...
[04:35] <gbell> Anybody else?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> gbell, flash is dying a slow painful death.  innovation and upgrading is, I suspect, of very LOW priority.
[04:37] <gbell> cfhowlett: Understood.  8 years ago it wasn't though!  A lot of people must have this problem.  Google search reveals a lot of old forum posts.  None of them have ever worked.  Kongregate still has a lot of flash games on it.
[04:38] <cfhowlett> gbell, now isn't then.  deal with it.  :)
[04:38] <gbell> yeah yeah.  I'm trying to understand how something so major wasn't addressed in such a long time.  Not complaining.  Lots of people get this problem, yes?
[04:45] <Nelson1> Linux (pronounced i/ˈlɪnəks/ lin-əks[4][5] or, less frequently, /ˈlaɪnəks/ lyn-əks[5][6]) is a Unix-like and mostlyPOSIX-compliant[7] computer operating system (OS) assembled under the model of free and open-source software development and distribution. The defining component of Linux is the Linux kernel,[8] an operating system kernel first released on 5 October 1991 by Linus Torvalds.[9][10] The Free Software Foundation uses the na
[04:45] <Nelson1> The Unix operating system was conceived and implemented in 1969 at AT&T's Bell Laboratories in the United States byKen Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Douglas McIlroy, and Joe Ossanna.[22] First released in 1971, Unix was written entirely inassembly language as it was common practice at the time. Later, in a key pioneering approach in 1973, it was rewritten in the C programming language by Dennis Ritchie (with exceptions to the kernel and I/O). The avai
[04:45] <Nelson1> Linus Torvalds had wanted to call his invention Freax, a portmanteau of "free", "freak", and "x" (as an allusion to Unix). During the start of his work on the system, he stored the files under the name "Freax" for about half of a year. Torvalds had already considered the name "Linux," but initially dismissed it as too egotistical.[32]In order to facilitate development, the files were uploaded to the FTP server (ftp.funet.fi) of FUNET in September 1991. 
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Nelson1, stop it now
[04:45] <Nelson1> Adoption of Linux in production environments, rather than being used only by hobbyists, started to take off first in the mid-1990s in the supercomputing community, where organizations such as NASA started to replace their increasingly expensive machines with clusters of inexpensive commodity computers running Linux. Commercial use followed when Dell and IBM, followed by Hewlett-Packard, started offering Linux support to escape Microsoft's monopoly in t
[04:47] <Nelson1> A Linux-based system is a modular Unix-like operating system, deriving much of its basic design from principles established in Unix during the 1970s and 1980s. Such a system uses a monolithic kernel, the Linux kernel, which handles process control, networking, access to the peripherals, and file systems. Device drivers are either integrated directly with the kernel, or added as modules that are loaded while the system is running.[48]Separate projects th
[04:47] <Nelson1> Installed components of a Linux system include the following:[49][51]AÂ bootloader, for exampleÂ GNU GRUB,Â LILO,Â SYSLINUX,Â CorebootÂ orÂ Gummiboot. This is a program that loads the Linux kernel into the computer'smain memory, by being executed by the computer when it is turned on and after theÂ firmwareÂ initialization is performed.AnÂ initÂ program, such as the traditionalÂ sysvinitÂ and the newerÂ systemd,Â OpenRCÂ andÂ Upstart. This is the firstÂ processÂ
[04:47] <Nelson1> The user interface, also known as the shell, is either a command-line interface (CLI), a graphical user interface (GUI), or through controls attached to the associated hardware, which is common for embedded systems. For desktop systems, the default mode is usually a graphical user interface, although the CLI is available through terminal emulator windows or on a separatevirtual console.CLI shells are the text-based user interfaces, which use text for b
[04:47] <Nelson1> The primary difference between Linux and many other popular contemporary operating systems is that the Linux kernel and other components are free and open-source software. Linux is not the only such operating system, although it is by far the most widely used.[57]Some free and open-source software licenses are based on the principle of copyleft, a kind of reciprocity: any work derived from a copyleft piece of software must also be copyleft itself. The
[04:47] <Nelson1> Linux kernel is a widely ported operating system kernel; it runs on a highly diverse range of computer architectures, including the hand-held ARM-based iPAQ and the IBM mainframes System z9 or System z10 – covering devices ranging from mobile phones to supercomputers.[66] Specialized distributions and kernel forks exist for less mainstream architectures; for example, the ELKS kernel fork can run on Intel 8086 or Intel 80286 16-bitmicropro
[04:47] <Nelson1> Beside the Linux distributions designed for general-purpose use on desktops and servers, distributions may be specialized for different purposes including: computer architecture support, embedded systems, stability, security, localization to a specific region or language, targeting of specific user groups, support for real-time applications, or commitment to a given desktop environment. Furthermore, some distributions deliberately include onlyfree software
[04:47] <Nelson1> The popularity of Linux on standard desktop computers and laptops has been increasing over the years.[69] Currently most distributions include a graphical user environment, with the two most popular environments being GNOME (which can utilize additional shells such as the defaultGNOME Shell and Ubuntu Unity), and the KDE Plasma Desktop.[citation needed]No single official Linux desktop exists: rather desktop environments and Linux distributions select c
[05:09] <limbera> what's the difference between apt-get remove
[05:09] <limbera> and apt-get purge
[05:10] <cfhowlett> limbera, read the man page
[05:11] <limbera> heh true
[05:11] <limbera> thanks :P
[05:11] <cfhowlett> limbera, also: apt         is the replacement for apt-get .   I expect the latter to be deprecated in time.
[05:13] <limbera> ok
[05:13] <limbera> thank you
[05:13] <cfhowlett> limbera, happy2help!
[05:14] <limbera> i'm currently looking through packages on my server
[05:14] <limbera> and removing those that aren't being used
[05:15] <cfhowlett> limbera, ... very carefully, I trust.   sudo apt update && sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:16] <limbera> i'm using apt-get purge
[05:16] <limbera> but only removing ones i am certain are not being used
[05:16] <limbera> (mysql, postfix, exim4, dovecot)
[05:16] <cfhowlett> limbera, fair enough.  #ubuntu-server            is a thing, you know that, right?
[05:18] <SopaXT> I have two acpi backlight drivers on my Lenovo TP E330. Setting the intel_backlight one to max reduces flicker.
[05:19] <SopaXT> The screen was flickering like crazy
[05:19] <SopaXT> Can I do anything more permanent?
[05:20] <SopaXT> I will sue you, Canonical for the eye damage caused.
[05:20] <cfhowlett> SopaXT, this is not the place for your threats.
[05:21] <SopaXT> cfhowlett, I am joking, but the flicker did give me a focus problem.
[05:32] <SopaXT> Okay, should I file a bug report?
[05:33] <tsimonq2> Just wondering, does Ubuntu have support for HEVC yet? Or is that a Win10 only thing for now?
[05:34] <tsimonq2> And specifically version 3...
[05:34] <tsimonq2> Anyone?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !details | SopaXT
[05:35] <sadasdf> I tried googling to fix my all-black gedit tabs, but i haven't had any success so far. has anyone else hit this bug? i'm using i3 window manager.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys might know this?
[05:35] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Ok, going there now.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> sadasdf: did you try #i3 ?
[05:38] <apex> how do i get gnome?
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !gnome | apex
[05:39] <sadasdf> lotuspsychje, no, thaank you
[05:39] <apex> now which is the default enviroment for ubuntu?
[05:40] <cfhowlett> apex, unity
[05:41] <apex> is this best one?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> apex, you choose.
[05:41] <apex> for devlopment...
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !flavors | apex
[05:42] <BGL> really helpful that my fresh ubuntu/unity install under vbox starts up in a fixed 640x480
[05:42] <cfhowlett> BGL, happy things worked out for you!
[05:42] <BGL> wouldn't want to jump into anythign i was actually planning on getting done
[05:42] <SopaXT> Okay, describing my problem. I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E330. There always was a bad screen flicker that I did not notice. When I had eye strain, I found that it was the cause. I tried to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, update the intel video drivers, and that did not help. I determined that the problem was in the backlight. I googled the issue and found many different suggestions, even one on Launchpad covering my problem. None did help. I not
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> SopaXT: 14.10 is eol now, did you try a no_acpi boot?
[05:44] <SopaXT> no_acpi? Haven't tried, how do I use it?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> SopaXT: load up grub at boot, then add those boot options to load
[05:46] <SopaXT> Will try, thanks.
[05:46] <SopaXT> But, I have a quick and dirty fix for it.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> SopaXT: also check your syslog and dmesg for relevant acpi errors
[05:47] <SopaXT> I seem to get how this works. The two drivers were in conflict.
[05:47] <george_> how to update ZAP 2.4.1?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !info zap
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> george_: where did you get that package
[05:52] <SopaXT> So, to file a bug report, I need to collect the necessary info first.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> SopaXT: yes
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !bug | SopaXT
[05:52] <SopaXT> But, what package is acpi related to?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> SopaXT: thats why you need to investigate your logs, to see whats happening exactly
[05:55] <WACOMalt> Excuse me, can anyone tell me how I can resize an exFat partition to fill the whole drive?
[05:55] <WACOMalt> currently its a 64GB partition on a 128 SD card
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | WACOMalt
[05:56] <WACOMalt> oh thank you. I couldnt get it to resize that partition though. I'll give it another go
[05:57] <george_> when starting  ZAP, been asked new release can be downloaded
[05:57] <Stringtoss> hey i just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04, and AMD Catalyst Control center won't load, i errors when typing in fglrxinfo into the terminal... if i purge fglrxinfo and reinstall it like it says on this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD  would that help?  I was unaware that I was supposed to uninstall it when upgrading
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: if you need more stable try LTS
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: a clean install 15.04 can do magic also
[06:00] <Stringtoss> okay i don't have a CD to put a clean install on... but for now would purging and reinstalling help?
[06:00] <WACOMalt> lotuspsychje, gparted will not allow me to resize it
[06:00] <WACOMalt> the handle will not drag and I cant type in a new size
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: have spare usb perhaps?
[06:01] <BGL> k, well maybe i'll have better luck with an xubuntu install cuz this is a joke
[06:01] <BGL> why is unity even utilizing 640x480 at all? i can't see any of the dialogs in full
[06:01] <Stringtoss> i don't see why i should have to do a clean install, i mean i've been suggested that before and I don't see what the point of providing an upgrade is if you should just do a clean install, you know?
[06:02] <Stringtoss> i guess I was trying to avoid having to do something like that
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: 14.10 is eol, so upgrading from it can cause issues
[06:03] <WACOMalt> Is there any other way to resize this partition? I dont know what gparted's deal is
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: in many cases clean install can fix things, did you try the open source driver?
[06:03] <Stringtoss> I know, everything else is working fine though
[06:03] <Stringtoss> the xorg one?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> yes
[06:03] <Stringtoss> i mean that one seems to work fine but I was hoping I could get the other one too
[06:04] <Stringtoss> at least I thin it's working okay, no major explosions
[06:05] <cfhowlett> BGL, this is virtualbox?
[06:05] <Stringtoss> actually I thought they went hand in hand
[06:07] <BGL> yeah
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: best driver is the one working right
[06:07] <cfhowlett> BGL, no guest additions package = no full resolution
[06:07] <BGL> i don't get how the installer is in what appears to be 1024x768 yet then after install it boots to a fixed 640x480
[06:08] <BGL> i don't even care about full resolution, i'd be happy with what it installed with for now
[06:08] <wafflejock> Stringtoss: LTS to LTS between 12.04 and 14.04 I was able to upgrade, ended up wiping eventually anyhow cause I decided to change up the environment I was using (used kubuntu for a while but settled on Gnome edition), it can work, that said I think the whole separating your home partition for easy reinstall of the OS/programs is a good idea
[06:08] <wafflejock> BGL: just install the guest additions should be good
[06:08] <LambdaComplex> BGL: Perhaps the LiveCD has drivers that aren't included in an installation?
[06:08] <LambdaComplex> But yeah, just install the guest additions
[06:08] <BGL> yeah if only, i inserted and tried to install it twice and it just hung
[06:09] <Stringtoss> well from what i understand, i'll be able to keep my .home folder right?
[06:09] <BGL> i just shut it down and i'm trying xubuntu now
[06:09] <BGL> which i probly should've done from the beginning, but we'll see
[06:09] <LambdaComplex> XFCE <3
[06:09] <wafflejock> BGL: you can try the ones in the repo as well sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso, not sure what the problem is though
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> Stringtoss: yes, but backups always reccomended
[06:10] <Stringtoss> oh of course, i backed up everything last night
[06:10] <Stringtoss> that's why i didn't upgrade sooner, i had moved and couldn't find my external hard drive
[06:32] <necrone> Bonjour
[06:33] <necrone> allchan
[06:35]  * necrone ce demande commande ça fonctionne ici
[06:35] <cfhowlett> !it | necrone
[06:38] <snapfractalpop> if I remove a bunch of old kernels at once in aptitude, is there a way to prevent it from reconfiguring grub after each one?
[06:40] <necrone> il y a juste personne qui repond ou je suis pas au bonne endroit ^^'
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !fr | necrogami
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !fr | necrone
[06:40] <necrone> thanks ^
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> necrone: you can ask your ubuntu issue here in english too if you like
[06:42] <necrone> sorry but my english sucks ^^ i going to french channel
[06:43] <Bob^> us.undernet.org
[06:44] <SuperHack3rMan> hola
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !es | SuperHack3rMan
[06:44] <LambdaComplex> Woah, I can actually read that one! Neat
[06:54] <necrone> #r/leagueoflegends
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !alis | necrone
[07:05] <enrico_>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/enrico/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_8372.query
[07:08] <techkamar> hi der
[07:09] <techkamar> ^^
[07:09] <techkamar> any1 online
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> techkamar: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:09] <techkamar> i hav a small problem with my battery indicator in panel
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> techkamar: shoot
[07:10] <techkamar> it remains same as when i booted my ubuntu
[07:10] <ubskeur> just say the whole question in one line
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> techkamar: it never emptys?
[07:10] <techkamar> kk....my battery indicator in panel is not refreshing.....it always shows same value.....wat to do?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> techkamar: and you sure your battery still works?
[07:11] <techkamar> ya battery works
[07:11] <techkamar> but indicator is not working properly
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> techkamar: any changes when you plugin adapter?
[07:11] <ubskeur> techkamar, are you running off battery right now?
[07:12] <techkamar> nop....im running in battery only
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> techkamar: you might wanna investigate your syslog and dmesg
[07:34] <Afdla> any ideas why 15.04 always puts my volume to 100% when booting computer?
[07:34] <Afdla> i'm destroying my ears each time I put music on
[07:34] <Guest56224> 6
[07:34] <Afdla> youtube seems to prefer 100% too
[07:40] <ubskeur> Afdla, no, it never happened to me
[07:40] <ubuntu509> hey guys I have an emergency
[07:40] <ubuntu509> I lost root ownership of the whole filesystem
[07:41] <ubuntu509> how do I gain it back? i cant even startup system without going to root shell
[07:41] <akik> ubuntu509: boot of the live dvd and fix it there
[07:41] <xangua> ubuntu509: how about you explain first what you did exactly¿
[07:42] <ubuntu509> xangua I booted from vmware into a real partition and accidentaly timer timed out and it boot default which is ubuntu which i was runniing instead of what I wanted to run in VM, windows
[07:42] <ubuntu509> vmware was running in root mode so it stole the filesystem
[07:42] <bazhang> ubuntu509, thats not credible
[07:42] <ubuntu509> meaning?
[07:43] <bazhang> ubuntu509, #vmware for support
[07:43] <ubuntu509> i know i made stupid mistake but it all happened because grub timed out on ubuntu
[07:43] <ubuntu509> no seriously its not a vmware problem
[07:43] <akik> what is vmware root mode?
[07:43] <ubuntu509> i lost ownership on most system directories
[07:44] <ubuntu509> akik I ran vmware with sudo
[07:44] <bazhang> ubuntu509, grub and vmware and 'stealing root' vmware issue
[07:44] <cfhowlett> WHY was vmware in root mode
[07:44] <ubuntu509> so simple question, how do I assign / ownership to sudo
[07:44] <ubuntu509> cfhowlett: because the virtual VMDK i created was only accessible in root
[07:45] <bazhang> ubuntu509, you said root in vmware
[07:45] <ubuntu509> no real ubuntu problem here forget vmware
[07:46] <akik> ubuntu509: maybe before doing anything more, backup your data
[07:46] <bazhang> ubuntu509, there is no stealing of root, for one, and without vmware in the equation, this alleged theft never took place
[07:46] <ubuntu509> ok let me post something, when I log into shell with my real username and do sudo chown root /
[07:47] <lkthomas> hmm
[07:47] <ubuntu509> it gives me sudo: unable to openn /var/lib/sudi/webgen/tty1: read only file system
[07:47] <ubuntu509> chown: changing ownership of someWeirdChars: read-only file system
[07:48] <ubuntu509> var/lib/sudo i meant not sudi
[07:48] <akik> ubuntu509: that can probably be solved by mount -o remount,rw /var
[07:48] <ubuntu509> ok let me try
[07:48] <akik> but please backup your data first :)
[07:48] <ubuntu509> akik: my data is fine no worries
[07:49] <ubuntu509> akik: command is incorrect how do I exactly type in : S
[07:49] <akik> maybe replace /var with /
[07:49] <akik> if they live in the same partition
[07:49] <talos_> test
[07:49] <lkthomas> gosh
[07:49] <cfhowlett> !test | talos_
[07:50] <lkthomas> finally I disabled join/left message appear on my chat window
[07:50] <lkthomas> feel a lot better now, LOL
[07:50] <ubuntu509> unable to open /var/lib//sudo/webgen/tty1:read only file system mount: /var not mounted or bad option
[07:50] <akik> did you remount it?
[07:51] <ubuntu509> thats what it wrote when i input your command
[07:51] <ubuntu509> i tried same command on / and it said its write protected
[07:51] <ubuntu509> wtf
[07:51] <ubuntu509> i am scared :D
[07:52] <ubuntu509> and i really dont wanna reinstall ubuntu i have it pretty setup omg
[07:53] <ubuntu509> var lib sudo webgen tty1 dir sounds like a problem, if I somehow gain rw ownership then I ll be able to resolve i think
[07:53] <akik> ubuntu509: one way to go forward is to boot the live dvd and chown there
[07:54] <akik> ubuntu509: but it's hard to say what's your real problem is
[07:54] <ubuntu509> if i chown from live usb, how does it give ownership to the root and not the live usb root?
[07:54] <akik> root is uid 0 always
[07:55] <ubuntu509> akik ok let me make a bootable cd
[08:01] <acsoka> is it possible to prevent a cp but allow mv only?
[08:03] <akik> acsoka: are you talking about file permissions or tools to copy files?
[08:04] <akik> acsoka: remember that cp and mv are not the only tools to copy files
[08:04] <acsoka> akik what else can be used?
[08:05] <akik> cat, dd
[08:05] <acsoka> basically,  i need to prevent people copying a file (because copy  takes time) and only allow instant actions like 'mv'
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | acsoka
[08:06] <akik> that's a bit exotic case you're having :)
[08:07] <acsoka> yeah its a strange case
[08:16] <siddharth030> i want to login into another computer and im running ssh on it
[08:16] <siddharth030> so i want graphical login
[08:16] <ubskeur> siddharth030, ssh is not the toold you want
[08:16] <siddharth030> then please tell me what to install
[08:16] <ubskeur> siddharth030, look at something like remote desktop
[08:17] <reza28> heloo
[08:17] <huwjr> siddharth030: try tightvnc and a VNC client. and tunnel it over SSH
[08:18] <reza28> gnmbh
[08:18] <reza28> ghmgh
[08:18] <siddharth030> will that work anywhere
[08:18] <siddharth030> i mean if im on another network too
[08:18] <reza28> klsv /.fj895rmn/noiwoeg/kw4nw9
[08:18] <reza28> mnlmniwf/mwelpve./svoikjsg.ppomnogmd
[08:18] <ubskeur> reza28, please stop
[08:19] <reza28> ok
[08:22] <_Norns> hello
[08:23] <ObrienDave> Appropriate time-of-day greetings & Welcome
[08:23] <_Norns> has the amd/fglrx situation been resolved for the latest apt upgrade with linux-headers and image generics?
[08:23] <ObrienDave> try it and see
[08:24] <_Norns> went through a whole ordeal yesterday.. spent far too long troubleshooting only to find out it was an issue tehre
[08:24] <_Norns> dont feel up for that :D
[08:24] <CyborgCygnus> I'm clicking on icons to launch VLC, other apps in my Ubuntu 14.04 but they aren't opening. This happens when I tried to shutdown also, I have to shutdown from a terminal using commands
[08:24] <_Norns> but basically all videos aspects were nonfunctional with the upgrade
[08:24] <ObrienDave> honestly couldn't tell you either way
[08:25] <_Norns> cool
[08:25] <ubskeur> _Norns, I'm running fglrx
[08:25] <ubuntu509> fixed without live usb akik thanks allot i used fcsk commandd or something and it corrected lots of errors i dont know and then it just logged in normally
[08:25] <ubskeur> _Norns, I was having issues with fglrx, switching to fglrx-updates seemed to fix it
[08:25] <_Norns> ubskeur: I had to roll back my grub to previous, was only solution i found
[08:26] <ubskeur> _Norns, either that or the problem was fixed
[08:26] <ubskeur> _Norns, what were the symptoms of your issue?
[08:27] <rallon> hi all
[08:27] <ObrienDave> CyborgCygnus, try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <_Norns> ubskeur: basically the issue lies in the latest upgrade, with the linux-image-generics and linux-header-generics, at least as far as I was able to deduce from searching.. it lies with AMD GPU and FGLRX udpate
[08:27] <_Norns> I fixed it by rolling back to previous grub
[08:27] <rallon> I have to check a HDD for its content: it should be completely written with 0x55, how can I check, with which prog?
[08:27] <_Norns> just curious if its been solved
[08:28] <ubskeur> _Norns, I'm running fglrx-updates right now, yesterday I couldn't log in due to fglrx, today it's fine
[08:28] <_Norns> i should say, fglrx-updates not fglrx
[08:28] <_Norns> my bad
[08:29] <ubskeur> _Norns, I wasn't running fglrx-updates yesterday though
[08:29] <CyborgCygnus> ObrienDave, last thing I want to do but do you have a link on how to do that? You mean not reisntall Ubuntu right? And just reinstall its desktop environment?
[08:30] <ObrienDave> CyborgCygnus, try     sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <ObrienDave> just the desktop environment (DE)
[08:30] <_Norns> ubskeur: hm.. I tried that yesterday purged fglrx-updates and core, dev and all that.. swtiched to fglrx, still had issue.  Only solution was to roll back grub.  Guess tomorrow when I get up i'll try an upgrade see what happens
[08:30] <akik> rallon: i don't know how to check, maybe calculate a checksum for 1 GiB of 0x55 then read it off the disk with dd and compare?
[08:31] <_Norns> thx
[08:32] <zuzulovesum> hi
[08:32] <zuzulovesum> any one here
[08:32] <ubskeur> yes, ask a question
[08:32] <zuzulovesum> nice to meet u
[08:32] <_Norns> sup
[08:32] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, are you here for a chat, or to solve a problem with ubuntu?
[08:33] <zuzulovesum> ok so i installed ubuntu yesterday http://i.imgur.com/Q1tCaQ9.png < u can in this image though i forgot to turn off safe boot and installed it
[08:33] <zuzulovesum> though it was installed it boots directly into 8.1
[08:34] <zuzulovesum> and does not show grub any idea what i can do
[08:35] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, where do you turn off safe boot? is it a bios setting or a windows setting or something else?
[08:35] <ObrienDave> UEFI setting
[08:35] <_Norns> think you have to work around the UEFI setting
[08:35] <ObrienDave> !uefi
[08:35] <akik> rallon: if you don't have to test for 0x55 you can use badblocks to write 0x55 to the whole disk
[08:35] <zuzulovesum> bios uefi setting
[08:35] <zuzulovesum> i forgot to turn it off while installing
[08:35] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, yeah, you have to work around uefi
[08:35] <zuzulovesum> i was told to turn it off as it could causesome issues
[08:36] <_Norns> yea
[08:36] <zuzulovesum> so is there a way or work around ?
[08:36] <ubskeur> !uefi zuzulovesum
[08:36] <ubskeur> !uefi | zuzulovesum
[08:36] <ObrienDave> turn it off, reinstall
[08:36] <zuzulovesum> i already read that mate
[08:36] <zuzulovesum> but is 20 gb enough for ubuntu
[08:37] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, probably
[08:37] <zuzulovesum> also all i need to know how to fix grub
[08:37] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, *yes
[08:37] <_Norns> yea
[08:37] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, it's all explained in the link on that post
[08:37] <rallon> akik: I had to block a badblocks -w in the reading of 0x55 patter and I wanted to just check that pattern, not re-write it and then check
[08:37] <ObrienDave> zuzulovesum, sudo update-grub
[08:37] <ubskeur> ObrienDave, doesn't work if they can't boot to ubuntu
[08:38] <zuzulovesum> so should i go in live ubuntu
[08:38] <ObrienDave> nah, really? please tell me you're kidding, right?
[08:38] <zuzulovesum> and write that in terminal ?
[08:38] <ubskeur> not sure it will work in a lovecd
[08:38] <ubskeur> liveusb
[08:38] <zuzulovesum> but its worth a try right ?
[08:39] <ubskeur> I would suggest reinstalling using the uefi tutorial
[08:39] <akik> rallon: have you tried using dd to read the disk? you can pipe it directly to md5sum
[08:39] <zuzulovesum> huh @akik
[08:39] <zuzulovesum> ubskeur i got no problem reinstalling but how do i uninstall first
[08:40] <rallon> akik: md5sum calculate the MD5, but I have to check for every single byte to be 0x55
[08:40] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, when you reinstall, remove the existing partitions and then put new ones where they were
[08:40] <akik> rallon: it's too slow that way
[08:40] <rallon> I'm trying od -t c | grep -v U
[08:40] <ObrienDave> zuzulovesum, you don't, just overwrite the ubuntu partitions
[08:40] <rallon> (U = 0x55)
[08:40] <akik> rallon: i'd read it in blocks of maybe 1MiB or such
[08:41] <zuzulovesum> how do i remove them sorry but im new at all of this
[08:41] <bodhi> hello
[08:41] <rallon> akik: it's VERY FAST that way, 100 MB/s
[08:41] <rallon> 12 GB in 109 sec
[08:42] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, when you're running the ubuntu installer, there is an option to do custom partitions
[08:42] <ubskeur> zuzulovesum, you can select partitions you don't want and press the - to remove them
[08:42] <zuzulovesum> yeah something else
[08:42] <zuzulovesum> k ill try that thank u
[08:42] <ubskeur> np
[08:42] <zuzulovesum> ill be back if i get more issues thanks again
[08:43] <ObrienDave> be seeing you ;P
[08:43] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[08:49] <SopaXT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1486896
[08:51] <ubskeur> SopaXT, that looks like a similar model to my laptop, which has no issue
[08:57] <medicijnman> does anyone know how to force use a dns address? my internet is kinda broken because most programs try to use the dns of my isp, but that one is down for two days straight
[08:58] <ObrienDave> use google's DNS 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[08:59] <ubskeur> medicijnman, https://askubuntu.com/questions/2321/what-is-the-proper-way-to-change-the-dns-ip
[09:00] <medicijnman> uhmmm, sorry ubskeur i can't connect to that page with my browser because it uses the broken dns server
[09:00] <ubskeur> medicijnman, system settings > network > connection you're using > options
[09:01] <ubskeur> medicijnman, IPv4/IPv6 settings > Additional DNS servers
[09:02] <medicijnman> ubskeur: the order is important right? i can't change the order
[09:03] <ObrienDave> either way. 1st address is primary
[09:03] <ObrienDave> 8.8.4.4, 8.8.8.8
[09:03] <ubskeur> medicijnman, if you're using IPv6, use 2001:4860:4860::8888, 2001:4860:4860::8844
[09:04] <medicijnman> ubskeur, obriendave: okay i added the ipv4 dns addresses. i'm currently checking whether it works
[09:05] <medicijnman> ubskeur, obriendave: thanks it worked. sorry for asking, but i couldn't browse the web so i couldn't search for a solution either
[09:06] <ObrienDave> yw
[09:06] <ubskeur> !yay | medicijnman
[09:07] <DJJeff> after a program crashes and the window to report the bug comes up (apport-gtk) how do I view the bug details
[09:07] <DJJeff> or view it upload it to a website
[09:08] <DJJeff> doing the checkbox to send the report seems to do jack shit
[09:08] <DJJeff> no link to view a report after its sent nothing
[09:08] <ObrienDave> nope, once sent it *poofs*
[09:09] <DJJeff> what garbage
[09:09] <DJJeff> pure garbage
[09:09] <ObrienDave> sl=hall we send you a refund? ;P
[09:09] <ObrienDave> *shall
[09:09] <DJJeff> yes please
[09:09] <DJJeff> you can paypal me the $0 and .00c
[09:09] <ObrienDave> the checks in the mail ;p
[09:09] <ubskeur> DJJeff, do you accept bitcoin?
[09:10] <ubskeur> DJJeff, there might be something in the syslogs
[09:10] <mkanyicy> hi guys
[09:10] <SopaXT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1486896 - polling
[09:10] <ubskeur> SopaXT, we saw it before, if someone knows anything about it they will get back to you
[09:10] <DJJeff> also gdb or the gnome-debug tool I tried attaching it to a pid and everything locked up
[09:11] <DJJeff> trying to get a bt or backtrace
[09:11] <mkanyicy> I installed terminator on ubuntu and now when I press Ctrl+Alt+T terminator shows up instead of gnome-terminal, how can i change this back to the default
[09:11] <DJJeff> had to switch to CTRL+ALT+1 to kill the pid of gdb
[09:11] <DJJeff> mkanyicy: I think in your settings there is keyboard shortcuts you can modify
[09:12] <ubskeur> mkanyicy, system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts -> launchers -> launch terminal
[09:12] <ubskeur> mkanyicy, it might also be in the custom shortcuts
[09:14] <DJJeff> -rw-r----- 1 jefferyw whoopsie 1.3M Aug 20 02:01 /var/crash/_usr_bin_xfwm4.1000.crash
[09:14] <DJJeff> oh I have this what can I do with it
[09:14] <DJJeff> its an amazing 1.3MB
[09:15] <ObrienDave> you can probably open it with a text editor and read it ;P
[09:16] <ubskeur> DJJeff, if it's a bug in a specific program you could attach it to your bug report
[09:16] <mkanyicy> @DJJeff @ubskeur Launch terminal is correct but the actual terminal programme that comes up is terminator not gnome-terminal
[09:16] <ubskeur> mkanyicy, do you use terminator?
[09:16] <SopaXT> This bug DID cause eye strain for me.
[09:16] <mkanyicy> ubskeur: yes i do but i want that shortcut to stick to the default gnome-terminal
[09:17] <ubskeur> mkanyicy, were there any custom keyboard shortcuts that might override the default one?
[09:18] <mkanyicy> ubskeur: okay i managed thanks, but when i did that it moved the Launch Terminal shortcut to Super+W which is for compiz window tiling, had to go to that to change it to some other shortcut to get compiz window tiling to work
[09:18] <mkanyicy> thanks ubskeur DJJeff
[09:19] <ubskeur> mkanyicy, ok
[09:19] <ubskeur> if it works it works
[09:21] <DJJeff> who is in charge of apport and apport-gtk
[09:21] <DJJeff> and error reporting
[09:22] <DJJeff> they should have the option to pastebin the crash without the lines that contain the core dump
[09:22] <DJJeff> for example what I just did
[09:22] <mistralol> for a ubuntu port. Does 14.10 exist?
[09:22] <DJJeff> http://pastebin.com/yp3DaZ8p
[09:22] <ubskeur> mistralol, ubuntu 14.10 is no longer supported
[09:23] <mistralol> ubskeur: i dont care if its supported. Only if it exists or did exist for ports
[09:23] <mistralol> basically its for a rapsberry pi
[09:23] <ubskeur> mistralol, it exists, it used to be supported, why do you need to know?
[09:34] <teo_> hi
[09:34] <ubskeur> teo_, hello, how can we help you?
[09:34] <teo_> i'd like to install ubuntu, i have tested it on virtual box and i like it
[09:34] <teo_> but i'd like to use it with kde
[09:35] <teo_> and not unity
[09:35] <teo_> i have read that there is kubuntu
[09:35] <teo_> but there are many differences in it (programs installed)
[09:35] <teo_> so i'd like to install normal ubuntu and change the desktop from unity to kde
[09:36] <teo_> is it possible (easy) or it's better to install kubuntu?
[09:36] <ubskeur> teo_, kubuntu and ubuntu are very similar, but changing ubuntu from unity to kde is also possible
[09:36] <teo_> is it simple?
[09:36] <wafflejock> teo_: there will be a different set of default apps but just as easy in terms of setup
[09:36] <mistralol> ubskeur: yeah i would like th eprecompiled gstreamer 14.10 from it :)
[09:37] <mistralol> ubskeur: is it still possible to upgrade to it?
[09:37] <teo_> good
[09:37] <ubskeur> mistralol, so you want to install gstreamer on 14.10?
[09:37] <mistralol> yes but a specific version at least 1.4
[09:38] <teo_> i need a single command (like search it in the app list) or is longer?
[09:38] <ubskeur> teo_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[09:38] <wafflejock> teo_: you can get a totally separate ISO here http://www.kubuntu.org/
[09:38] <teo_> thanks!!!
[09:38] <mistralol> ubskeur: unless it would be possible to update the rpi port to 15.04 that would also work as well
[09:39] <teo_> i know that there is kubuntu (not tested) but seems (from wikipedia) that it has different apps
[09:39] <teo_> for example there isn't firefox but there is other
[09:39] <ubskeur> mistralol, you mean to update a raspberry pi to ubuntu 15.04? that would be possible
[09:39] <wafflejock> teo_: they have the same repositories so you can still install everything
[09:39] <teo_> yes but the only thing that i don't like is kde
[09:39] <mistralol> ubskeur: either way works. Would almost prefere the supported lastest version imo
[09:39] <teo_> i mean unity
[09:39] <wafflejock> teo_: just different defaults because it's using KDE friendly stuff
[09:40] <mistralol> ubskeur: but if i run a do-release-update it says no new version found
[09:40] <wafflejock> teo_: would suggest giving it a try you get the full KDE experience and adding in the one or two apps you want from regular Unity is no biggie
[09:40] <teo_> maybe i will try kubuntu and ubuntu with kde
[09:40] <ubskeur> mistralol, do you have graphics or do you have to use command line?
[09:40] <mistralol> cmd line
[09:40] <teo_> so you think is better if i download kubuntu?
[09:40] <ubskeur> teo_, I would recommend kubuntu in your case
[09:41] <teo_> good!
[09:41] <manjaro-kde5-> how can I find out about web traffic of other wifi users?for example how can I see what others are downloading over the web on the same public network?
[09:41] <sinisterdoor> It is not encrypted or over https
[09:41] <ubskeur> sinisterdoor, this would be in your router settings
[09:41] <teo_> thank you all!!
[09:41] <teo_> bye!
[09:41] <teo_> :)
[09:41] <wafflejock> teo_: o/
[09:42] <sinisterdoor> ubskeur: that's weird,I mean one can arp poison and disconnect other wifi connections,one can sniff and take out passwords if they are not encrypted
[09:42] <sinisterdoor> but you are telling me to see what others are downloading requires access to my router?
[09:42] <OerHeks> sinisterdoor, analysing webtraffic is beyond the scope of this channel.
[09:42] <sinisterdoor> my router is far more stupid than this
[09:42] <ubskeur> mistralol, sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:42] <OerHeks> !ot
[09:43] <mistralol> ubskeur: which says no new release avilable.
[09:43] <sinisterdoor> okay,any idea where I can ask?
[09:43] <OerHeks> -
[09:43] <ubskeur> mistralol, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and make sure it has the line Prompt=normal
[09:44] <mistralol> ubskeur: ypu looks like its going to update to utopic
[09:44] <ubskeur> mistralol, that fixed it?
[09:45] <mistralol> ubskeur: another quick question. Does ubuntu force an update path? or can you jump trusty -> vivid?
[09:45] <OerHeks> mistralol, no.
[09:46] <ubskeur> mistralol, you should be upgrading to vivid, not utopic
[09:46] <OerHeks> as utopic is EOL, you will need some tricks to get the package server running, see !eolupgrade
[09:47] <OerHeks> see the old-releases part > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading
[09:47]  * OerHeks would do a fresh install
[09:48] <ubskeur> I still don't know what they're trying to do exactly
[09:49] <_Norns>  /close
[09:57] <mistralol> ubskeur: yeah but i am on trusty which is still supported?
[09:58] <mcphail> mistralol: there will not be a supported upgrade path from trusty until the release of 16.04
[09:59] <mistralol> mcphail: So how do i upgrade from trusty to vivid?
[09:59] <mistralol> do I have to go trusty -> utopic -> vivid?
[09:59] <SopaXT> Yep.
[09:59] <SopaXT> You have.
[09:59] <mcphail> mistralol: OerHeks has already given you a link to the unsupported method, and has also given you the supported advice: do a fresh install
[10:00] <mistralol> mcphail: there is no installer for vivid for this port ;)
[10:00] <mcphail> mistralol: then there is no supported path
[10:02] <mcphail> mistralol: what device is it?
[10:02] <mistralol> pi2
[10:02] <mistralol> currently looking at this https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=110105
[10:02] <mcphail> mistralol: then I'm not even sure there is an upgrade path at all. The Raspberry pi uses a custom kernel
[10:02] <mistralol> yes it does and yes its not supported at all
[10:03] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[10:03] <OerHeks> for pi2
[10:03] <mistralol> OerHeks: yes thats the current imnage i am running but I have some problems with certain packages like gstreamer
[10:04] <mistralol> OerHeks: trusty has gstreamer 1.2.x i need 1.4.x
[10:05] <mcphail> mistralol: I've found gstreamer to be a nightmare to upgrade in the past. I don't think you're going to find a good solution beond waiting for someone to port a newer Ubuntu version. Perhaps consider a different distro?
[10:06] <mistralol> mcphail: i am about to build my own image for vivid which somebody else has already done.
[10:07] <mistralol> mcphail: I know what a pain gstreamer is to recompile :)
[10:07] <mcphail> mistralol: ok, good luck!
[10:09] <mistralol> mcphail: i will try it and see what happens. its basically the same script that generated the 14.04 image i am using
[10:10] <folf> Hi, I'm working on an old Dell T7500 with two NVIDIA G98 (Quadro NVS 295) cards in it on Ubuntu 14.04 using the nvidia-340 driver. The entire system freezes on my relatively regularly. Any hints for trouble shooting this?
[10:10] <OerHeks> mistralol, try to update that script from 'finnie' indeed, not that hard i guess
[10:11] <linhvuvtn> hi all , im new here
[10:12] <ac3takwas_> linhvuvtn, welcome
[10:13] <mistralol> OerHeks: there is an updated version at http://www.mrengles.com/raspberry/ubuntu/vivid/Scripts/
[10:13] <Idiot> I'm trying to run Dwarf Fortress from the terminal, but it gives me the message: "-bash: ./df: Permission denied".
[10:13] <Idiot> Or am I in the wrong IRC?
[10:17] <OerHeks> mistralol, no, or i cannot find it. maybe #ubuntu-arm know better than me ?
[10:22] <linhvuvtn> hi all , im new here
[10:22] <linhvuvtn> who are Vietnamese ?
[10:22] <mistralol> OerHeks: the last link i posted the script is the only file int he directory
[10:22] <mistralol> http://www.mrengles.com/raspberry/ubuntu/vivid/Scripts/ubuntu-15.04-server-rpi2-armhf.sh
[10:22] <mistralol> trying it now see how it goes :D
[10:24] <OerHeks> mistralol, oh, i was looking @ http://www.finnie.org/software/raspberrypi/rpi2-build-image.sh
[10:24] <Gallomimia> !vietnamese
[10:24] <zuzuloves> hi again guys
[10:24] <Gallomimia> nothing from the bod :(
[10:25] <steedp3> Does anybody know what on earth is going on here? https://pastee.org/g3xwa , Why is HOSTNAME not being subsituted on the long lines?
[10:25] <OerHeks> !vn
[10:25] <zuzuloves> so i reinstalled ubuntu still can not boot into it
[10:25] <Gallomimia> steedp3: variables start with the $ character.
[10:26] <zuzuloves> guys
[10:26] <steedp3> Gallomimia: what variables?
[10:26] <Gallomimia> the one called HOSTNAME ?
[10:26] <steedp3> in M4?
[10:26] <Gallomimia> it's not being replaced cause you didn't put the $
[10:26] <Gallomimia> is this a bash script or what?
[10:26] <steedp3> why is it replaced on the first line then?
[10:27] <steedp3> Gallomimia: it is using the m4 macro processor
[10:27] <Gallomimia> not sure. did you put the $ in that one?
[10:27] <steedp3> no, you can see that
[10:27] <Gallomimia> no i can't. there's no HOSTNAME there
[10:27] <steedp3> I cat'd the file
[10:27] <steedp3> then showed how m4 confusingly transformed it
[10:28] <steedp3> https://pastee.org/g3xwa
[10:28] <Gallomimia> yes i have that open. it's really hard to figure out what you did to generate this at all. but.... what in the world is the M4 macro processor?
[10:29] <steedp3> a macro processor
[10:29] <Gallomimia> if you can't figure out how it works, maybe you ought to go to their irc channel? i've never heard of this.. what's wrong with the dot command in bash?
[10:29] <steedp3> they dont have one
[10:29] <folf> steedp3: it's because of the "'" I guess
[10:29] <steedp3> its a fairly standard unix tool
[10:29] <Gallomimia> that's too bad then. try bash.
[10:29] <steedp3> Gallomimia: bash is not a macro language . . .
[10:29] <steedp3> folf: what do you mean?
[10:30] <Gallomimia> looks like a bash script to me, except the html parts
[10:31] <steedp3> Gallomimia: I think you might be confused, what I showed you is me using bash to run m4
[10:31] <steedp3> or you are just trolling
[10:31] <Abhijit> hi
[10:32] <Gallomimia> nope. i'm confused. i do see the one command executing m4
[10:32] <steedp3> The problem I am facing has nothing to do with bash
[10:33] <Abhijit> on 15.04 I set AMD graphics card driver to open source in Additional Drivers Application. now when I restarted, the X do not find any graphics card and ask me to configure. that does not change anything. how can I reconfigure my AMD graphics drivers to use propriatory driver from rescue mode command line?
[10:33] <Gallomimia> its definitely quote related in your .m4 file. the ones in quotes are not touched, while the ones not in quotes are replaced.
[10:34] <Gallomimia> or.... maybe the slashes near it?
[10:34] <folf> steedp3: sorry, think it's the "#" actually, which is a comment charachter
[10:34] <Gallomimia> oh there you go
[10:35] <Gallomimia> that would do it. the # is needed in your code tho right? how to escape the # or maybe expand a macro into # ?
[10:36] <ubskeur> Gallomimia, /#
[10:38] <steedp3> folf: thanks, that was it!
[10:38] <steedp3> actually it is `#'
[10:39] <NGC3982> Has anyone of you used Triplie?
[10:39] <hateball> Abhijit: try using the command "ubuntu-drivers"
[10:40] <Abhijit> hateball, will do. thanks.
[10:40] <folf> steedp3: http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/m4/manual/m4-1.4.17/html_node/Comments.html#Comments seems to have the information you need
[10:40] <steedp3> folf: yeah, thanks
[10:40] <folf> steedp3: sure!
[10:52] <folf> Just trying to post this again:  I'm working on a Dell T7500 with two NVIDIA G98 (Quadro NVS
[10:52] <folf>        295) cards in it on Ubuntu 14.04 using the nvidia-340 driver. The
[10:52] <folf>        entire system freezes on my relatively regularly. Any hints for trouble
[10:52] <folf>        shooting this?
[10:52] <Gallomimia> yep. take the second card out
[10:53] <Gallomimia> i'm no expert on the subject, but last i'd heard multi-GPU setups in linux weren't very functional at all.
[10:53] <Gallomimia> have you got them SLI'd?
[10:57] <Gallomimia> folf: so my suggestion is to turn off SLI and try driving each a monitor per card. but at some point you're going to have to dig into some logs to find out what's really causing the lockups.
[10:57] <Bern_> Im having graphical issues playing ARK on my ubuntu system. I haven't installed any graphic drivers since ubuntu uses the open source from Radeon drivers. But they dont seem to cut it. The screens gets black every 7 second and pretty much the whole PC freezes. Could it be I need proper drivers for this?
[10:58] <Gallomimia> yes.
[10:58] <ubskeur> Bern_, you can install proprietary drivers from the additional drivers settings
[10:58] <Gallomimia> open source drivers, very slow. someone was in here comparing them. 7fps in one game, change to proprietary, got 60fps
[10:58] <ubskeur> Gallomimia, it was 9fps
[10:59] <Gallomimia> close enough :D
[10:59] <Gallomimia> was it you?
[10:59] <ubskeur> Gallomimia, yeah
[10:59] <Gallomimia> a slideshow is still a slideshow
[10:59] <Bern_> ubskeur ok. So just download drivers from AMD's website and install? No other fuss?
[10:59] <Gallomimia> nope.
[10:59] <ubskeur> Bern_, that is not the best method
[10:59] <Gallomimia> use package manager.
[10:59] <Gallomimia> amd's website provides headaches, not downloads :/
[10:59] <Gallomimia> remove the old driver first too.
[10:59] <ubskeur> Bern_, if you go to the additional drivers settings there are options for proprietary drivers
[11:00] <Kurisu|Codeine> Just wondering if this is a good place for support?
[11:00] <ubskeur> Bern_, type additional drivers into the launcher (top left)
[11:00] <ubskeur> Kurisu, yes
[11:00] <Gallomimia> yes it is.
[11:01] <Bern_> ubskeur , yes found it. Says no proprietary drivers are in use
[11:01] <ubskeur> Kurisu, you just had your allotted one question used up, bye <3
[11:01] <Gallomimia> hehehe
[11:01] <Kurisu> Awesome, well my friend's trying to install Ubuntu, but he gets the following error. He has a GTX 750; http://paste.ubuntu.com/12134824/
[11:01] <Kurisu> I've searched everywhere on the Internet and can find no similar issue or fix for this.
[11:02] <Bern_> Should I use "Using Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerator from fglrx updates" ?
[11:02] <Gallomimia> that sounds terrible. is he using the open source drivers?
[11:02] <ubskeur> Bern_, there are a few options in that window, pick one (fglrx is meant to be stable, but has been having issues in the past couple of days)
[11:02] <Gallomimia> Bern_: yes that's the good stuff.
[11:02] <k1l> Bern_: dont install the driver from the amd website. ubuntu ships amd drivers, you just need to choose them
[11:02] <folf> Gallomimia: no I haven't done anything to them. Basically inherited the machine.
[11:02] <ubskeur> Bern_, fglrx or fglrx-updates
[11:02] <Kurisu> Not sure, he's just trying to install Ubuntu from a USB for the first time.
[11:02] <Bern_> Ok. How/Where do I remove the old drivers?
[11:02] <ubskeur> Bern_, that page should do it (I think)
[11:02] <mcphail> !nomodeset | Kurisu
[11:02] <k1l> Bern_: go to system settings > updates and software > last tab :additional drivers
[11:02] <Gallomimia> i believe nouveau is the FOSS nvidia driver? i recommend the closed-source drivers for both nvidia cards and ati. tried em both.
[11:03] <k1l> Kurisu: what is the issue?
[11:03] <Gallomimia> it hangs on boot right?
[11:03] <Kurisu> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12134824/
[11:03] <ubskeur> k1l, are you scrolled up?
[11:03] <mcphail> Kurisu: using nomodest should prevent the nouveau drivers being loaded. He can then install the proprietary drivers
[11:03] <Kurisu> Yeah it's an NVIDIA driver. This is when trying to boot into the Ubuntu Installer
[11:03] <Kurisu> Kk, we'll give this a shot. Thanks
[11:03] <mcphail> *nomodeset
[11:04] <Gallomimia> !nomodeset | Kurisu
[11:04] <k1l> Bern_: if you did not install a video driver before it will just install the fgrlx one if you click on it there
[11:04] <Bern_> kIl so ticking "Using Video Driver for the amd  graphics accelerators from fglrx-updates" will remove my old drivers? Cause I dont see any options to do that otherwise
[11:05] <k1l> Bern_: i would start with the one without "-updates"
[11:05] <ubskeur> k1l, that one was freezing my computer yesterday
[11:05] <k1l> ubskeur: and you got the same exact hardware and software setup as the other user?
[11:06] <k1l> Bern_: did you install a video driver before?
[11:06] <Bern_> kIl nope. No drivers installed
[11:07] <k1l> Bern_: if not. you were using the open-source video driver. that will be removed automatically if you use that driver tab in the system settings
[11:07] <Bern_> kIl Okey good. Thanks!
[11:08] <surgy> hello im running ubuntu gnome 14.04 is there a way to control which monitor an application opens in? do you do this with a .desktop ? can soeone please help me figure out how to do this?
[11:10] <Bern__> kIl , I rebooted. Now starting steam with the new drivers, OpenGL GLX is no longer using direct rendering. That doesn't sound well.
[11:10] <akik> surgy: unfortunately i don't have an answer for you for gnome. i've fixed that problem in KDE. do the programs open on the non-primary display in your case?
[11:11] <surgy> akik, dome do and some dont....
[11:12] <akik> surgy: i connect the tv with hdmi and keepass was one of the programs that wanted to open in the tv
[11:12] <petard_> Hello
[11:12] <k1l> Bern__: its not working?
[11:13] <petard_> I have installed php5 on ubuntu
[11:13] <petard_> with php5-dev and when I try to build extension I received message 'Cannot find build files at '/usr/lib/php/build''
[11:14] <petard_> directory /usr/lib/php/build not exist but directory /usr/lib/php5/build exist
[11:14] <petard_> how can I change php build dir
[11:16] <dreamcat4> anyone else here getting public key issues (not verified) with apt-get update ?
[11:16] <k1l> dreamcat4: run a "sudo apt-get update" and put all that into a pastebin please
[11:18] <Gallomimia> petard_: what are you using to perform this build?
[11:18] <majnoon> trying to start kde but something "Wrong" with ksmserver kdeinit5 (or both)
[11:18] <majnoon> need to have at least a starting place to look from
[11:19] <Gallomimia> petard_: alternately, you could simply do this: ln -s /usr/lib/php5 /usr/lib/php
[11:19] <Bern__> kIl yes it does. But it doesn't seem to run very smooth. But if OpenGL isn't direct rendering it would affect fps right?
[11:19] <Gallomimia> sounds reasonable bern
[11:20] <misho_> hi everyone
[11:20] <misho_> I have a question
[11:21] <Gallomimia> !ask | misho_
[11:21] <petard_> Gallomimia: I am using phpize to build extension
[11:22] <k1l> Bern__: which ubuntu exactly and which video card exactly? (lspci will name the card)
[11:22] <dreamcat4> kimico: okay. its probably just me. it seems some bug where i have too many keys in the keyring. bug happens after adding more key.
[11:22] <dreamcat4> it's a known  bug
[11:22] <misho_> I'm using VLC player to watch a movie from shared home network...how can i add subtitles because when i try a windows is opening and there is now Network directory
[11:23] <Gallomimia> petard_ you'll probably need to change some settings in there. but i think it'll be easier to make a link that adds the php dir to contain everything in the php5 dir. i wrote command above
[11:23] <misho_> !patience
[11:23] <Gallomimia> heh. just spit it out misho_what do you have problems with?
[11:23] <Gallomimia> petard_: alternately, you could simply do this: ln -s /usr/lib/php5 /usr/lib/php
[11:24] <sb_9> how to know ./<executable_file> is selecting which interface like sh,bash,python, perl without seeing code?
[11:24] <Gallomimia> probably need sudo at the start of that petard_
[11:24] <folf> misho_: if the subtitles are in the same directory and have the same basename, they should be used by vlc I think
[11:25] <Gallomimia> sb_9: does it halt, give you time to view details? there should be some indication of what program is running in your terminal window, or use tools to find programs.
[11:25] <misho_> folf, yes they are in the same directory
[11:25] <Gallomimia> it's over a network tho?
[11:26] <misho_> but i guess darg and drop function for subtitles is not working in the same like KMPlayer
[11:27] <sb_9> Gallomimia: okay. i need to run a ./<executable file> from system run levels. is it possible to without  'cd' to target directory?
[11:27] <Gallomimia> yup. use the absolute path
[11:27] <ubskeur> sb_9, for example /path/to/executable
[11:27] <Gallomimia> in fact, you usually need to use the absolute path in system scripts
[11:28] <ubskeur> sb_9, or from /path/ you can run ./to/executable
[11:28] <Gallomimia> if you REALLY REALLY need to be sure it uses the right interpreter, /path/to/interpreter /path/to/scriptfile
[11:29] <Gallomimia> that makes me want to mount a new LV at my root level named path
[11:29] <sb_9> oops; it's not working. i don't know which interpreter they are using in script. script is encrypted.
[11:29] <ubskeur> sb_9, not sure you can even run encrypted script
[11:30] <sb_9> Gallomimia:  oops; it's not working. i don't know which interpreter they are using in script. script is encrypted
[11:30] <Gallomimia> you can't execute an encrypted script 0o
[11:30] <ubskeur> sb_9, if it's encrypted, you need to decrypt it. otherwise it might be compiled?
[11:30] <sb_9> Gallomimia: okay. it's a mongodb. i am trying to start mongo compiled version from system run levels. it is not working with absolute path.
[11:31] <sb_9> Gallomimia: i know that it is developed in c++ only. is there any idea?
[11:31] <Gallomimia> in ubuntu? making it into an upstart service might be best
[11:31] <Gallomimia> there's no interpreter for this file. it's a compiled binary.
[11:31] <ubskeur> sb_9, compiled code doesn't use an interpreter, it gets run as a binary
[11:31] <ubskeur> sb_9, usually
[11:32] <Gallomimia> try this out: https://gist.github.com/onedesign/765458
[11:32] <sb_9> Gallomimia: okay.
[11:32] <Gallomimia> uh.... it should go into..... where?
[11:33] <ubskeur> Gallomimia, /path/
[11:33] <sb_9> Gallomimia: /opt/mongo
[11:33] <Gallomimia> no.
[11:34] <nillzie> Hello all
[11:34] <sb_9> Gallomimia:  okay. /var/lib/mongodb/  am i right?
[11:34] <Gallomimia> no.
[11:34] <Gallomimia> type this: cat /etc/rc0.d/README
[11:35] <Gallomimia> this is an upstart script. it goes in the system directories, not the mongodb stuff
[11:35] <sb_9> Gallomimia: okay Got it. Thanks.
[11:35] <Gallomimia> it starts your server when you boot, and also when you do things like service mongodb restart
[11:35] <Gallomimia> read more about upstart on google
[11:36] <sb_9> Gallomimia: okay. Thanks for info.
[11:36] <Gallomimia> also, to find that script i googled mongodb upstart script. that's the first one, but there's many more.
[11:36] <nillzie> Does anyone here mind answering a question for me im pretty new to linux
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !ask | nillzie
[11:37] <Gallomimia> being new is good!
[11:37] <nillzie> yhe loving it so far, apart from the facy that my audio has stopped working lol
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !audio | nillzie
[11:37] <Gallomimia> ahhhh yes. go into system settings audio ?
[11:38] <nillzie> thats the thing, all the devices disapeared
[11:38] <Gallomimia> hah. there's a bot for that :P
[11:38] <Gallomimia> you've rebooted?
[11:38] <ubskeur> nillzie, are they plugged in? :P
[11:38] <Gallomimia> hehe
[11:38] <nillzie> yep lol
[11:38] <nillzie> works fine on my windows boot just not linux
[11:38] <Gallomimia> but it worked before?
[11:39] <nillzie> yhe then about 2 days ago it just randomly stoped working when i booted up
[11:39] <Gallomimia> aw well. i don't think it was random ;)
[11:39] <cmdgy> join #考研
[11:39] <Gallomimia> what kinds of things did you install or tweak the days before that?
[11:40] <cfhowlett> cmdgy, /join #channelname
[11:40] <nillzie> i did install a mixer program, but that worked fine for a few days
[11:40] <Gallomimia> and then did you restart?
[11:40] <ubskeur> Gallomimia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12135025/ :D
[11:40] <Gallomimia> goto terminal and ask it uptime
[11:40] <nillzie> i shutdown every night
[11:40] <Gallomimia> hm. that's... weird
[11:40] <nillzie> yhe
[11:41] <Gallomimia> i mean, if you'd installed, played, rebooted and found it not working
[11:41] <ubskeur> nillzie, what mixer was it?
[11:41] <Gallomimia> then the install created a problem in the boot sequence. but, you had a day of it working
[11:41] <nillzie> im not sure but when i put pulseaudio in term i get some errors and core dumped
[11:42] <nillzie> ive tried to reinstall pulseaudio and ubuntu-desktop still nothing
[11:42] <Gallomimia> aha.
[11:42] <Gallomimia> type groups in terminal
[11:42] <Gallomimia> oh. i don't have an entry in audio group either :(
[11:43] <Gallomimia> ah. that page is old. this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:43] <nillzie> i just get "nillzie adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[11:44] <Gallomimia> yeah the audio group isn't a thing anymore. a common problem you'll find when looking up how to do stuff on google. you'll find old directions that aren't relevant anymore
[11:45] <Bern__> kIl 14.04 ubuntu and sapphire 6950 2gb
[11:45] <Gallomimia> that page is worthless unless you're reporting a bug :/ try this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio
[11:45] <nillzie> ill take a look, thanks
[11:46] <ubskeur> Gallomimia, from now on whenever anyone does a /path/to/ example, I'll put a file there
[11:47] <Gallomimia> write a cron script that checks every day at a weird time and if that drive is full... do something disastrous!
[11:50] <Bern__> kIl I must've installed some drivers and forgotten about it? Otherwise why would OpenGL no be direct rendering..
[11:51] <Kurisu> Thanks for your help k1l, mcphail, ubskeur. nomodeset worked :)
[11:52] <lilwiz> Anyone here know if it's possible to edit grub so that it skips checking hard drives on ATA01-02? If yes, mind telling me how :)
[11:54] <mcphail> Kurisu: np
[11:55] <OerHeks> lilwiz, one solution, let the hdd check, it will not return next boot
[11:55] <OerHeks> (unless the hdd is toast)
[11:55] <lilwiz> OerHeks: it is toast, soldered to the motherboard
[11:55] <cfhowlett> sniff the laptop for overcooked hdd aroma???
[11:56] <lilwiz> OerHeks: Hi again by the way, you gave me some good advice the last time I was here.
[11:57] <lilwiz> OerHeks: Do you think this will work? https://askubuntu.com/questions/352836/how-can-i-tell-linux-kernel-to-completely-ignore-a-disk-as-if-it-was-not-even-co/387261#387261
[11:58] <OerHeks> lilwiz, then use the '0 0' option at the end, like this > /dev/hda2   /myfiles    ext2    defaults    0    0
[11:59] <lilwiz> I'll see if I can get that "patch" working. Seems to do it.
[12:00] <NTQ> Does anybody now where all iptable rules are stored?
[12:01] <OerHeks> NTQ, they are not. you need to save & load them yourself > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[12:03] <Tzunamii> NTQ: This will list them for you though: sudo /sbin/iptables -L -n -v --line-numbers | less
[12:03] <yaksha5> hi
[12:03] <OerHeks> I use gufw, to store them and have a gui.
[12:05] <NTQ> OerHeks: So I can only do this within chroot environment?
[12:05] <NTQ> That's strange.
[12:06] <OerHeks> NTQ, in chroot ??? just login with the administrator account...
[12:07] <badbodh> greetings earthlings
[12:07] <NTQ> OerHeks: That old linux is just a harddrive with some defect sectors.
[12:07] <NTQ> OerHeks: It won't start anymore
[12:08] <badbodh> don;t need no chroot to fsck that o.0
[12:08] <NTQ> I know. I don't want do fsck that. I simply want the iptable rules.
[12:09]  * OerHeks is lost here
[12:09] <badbodh> ah, for that you'd still need to fsck. can't get a good pizza out of a bad oven.
[12:11] <badbodh> fix sector, read data. you dig ?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <badbodh> aryan is now known as arunpyasi <-- lol.
[12:14] <arunpyasi> badbodh, you here too !!!
[12:14] <arunpyasi> badbodh, I think I shall register that nick
[12:14] <badbodh> i am everywhere *ghost voice*
[12:14] <badbodh> howdy BluesKaj
[12:15] <badbodh> aryan, register and also get a clock in #freenode. your ip is sticking out.
[12:16] <Bern__> Anyone know how to fix Steams "OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering" issues. Im using 14.04 ubuntu and sapphire 6950 2gb graphic card
[12:16] <aryan> who registered by NICK !!!
[12:17] <badbodh> Bern__, do try in #steamlug
[12:18] <BluesKaj> badbodh: hey
[12:18] <mcphail> Bern__: if you install mesa-utils, and run "glxinfo | grep direct", what is the response?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !register | aryan,
[12:21] <Bern__> mcphail , Dont have mesa-utils , will download and test.
[12:22] <skinny> hellow gay
[12:23] <kv102t> i have an old HDD and want to get the data off but it says i am not the owner. (i'm on live CD)
[12:23] <SopaXT> I am switching to Win-8. I know.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> kv102t, chown command
[12:24] <kv102t> so on yourname folder what do i do to push access to to all folders
[12:27] <kv102t> so on yourname folder what do i do to push access to to all folders
[12:29] <kv102t> how can i use chown to make current user admin of folder
[12:29] <Bern__> mcphail http://pastebin.com/dSxibBpv
[12:30] <kv102t> it's ok. got it thanks
[12:30] <Bern__> mcphail , seems fine?
[12:31] <mcphail> Bern__: yes - looks like a steam issue rather than an ubuntu issue, I'm afraid
[12:31] <mcphail> Bern__: I don't know how to help you debug that further
[12:32] <Bern__> mcphail , I'll have a look in the forums. Thanks
[12:32] <ioria> Bern__ seems that steam comes with its own libs ... and sometime they are conflicting with Ubuntu ones... in particolar libstdc++.so.6
[12:32] <mcphail> Bern__: good luck
[12:32] <ioria> Bern__  you should remove the steams libs http://askubuntu.com/questions/506349/opengl-glx-context-is-not-using-direct-rendering-which-may-cause-performance-pr
[12:37] <lilwiz> Hm. I downloaded the latest Ubuntu 15.04, made it into a persistent live usb and ran the update. That update ruined it.
[12:37] <lilwiz> I guess you are not supposed to update live ubuntus even though you run persistence
[12:41] <lilwiz> Why won't the live cd allow me to update to the latest patches when on live cd with persistence? I find that odd.
[12:42] <ubskeur> lilwiz, what happened after you updated?
[12:45] <karni> Hi folks. Is there a way to make the window switcher not collapse same-app windows? Hate waiting for the "sub switcher" to show up. I would like to simply toggle between open windows, with all of them on the list one by one.
[12:45] <karni> Question's concerning Unity
[12:46] <Bern__> Im lost, the steam community tells me to get drivers from AMD to possibly solve my OpenGL issue. But was adviced not to so from the ubuntu community o.O
[12:47] <m0e42> what kind of OpenGL issue?
[12:49] <Bern__> m0e42 OpenGL doesn't direct render
[12:49] <Bern__> causing massive fps issues
[12:50] <ioria> Bern__    http://askubuntu.com/questions/506349/opengl-glx-context-is-not-using-direct-rendering-which-may-cause-performance-pr
[12:50] <Bern__> ioria I've tried that.
[12:50] <m0e42> damn i wanna paste the same link ioria :P
[12:50] <ioria> Bern__    no avail ?
[12:51] <m0e42> which VGA Card u have?
[12:51] <ubskeur> karni, you could look into plugins using ccsm
[12:51] <Bern__> ioria nope. 6950 2gb Sapphire.
[12:51] <ioria> Bern__    try this : find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb.so*" \) -print -delete
[12:51] <karni> ubskeur: yes, I've been looking around, but haven't found such option. do you know it's there, or just suspect?
[12:51]  * karni looks again
[12:52] <m0e42> @karni: with compiz u can change to staticapplicationSwitcher under Windowsmanagement settings. then every window is on its own
[12:52] <Bern__> ioria Still the same error
[12:53] <karni> m0e42: that's exactly what I need :)! I just have these 6 options though: Grid, Move Window, Place Windows, Resize Window, Scale, Snapping Windows. am I missing something?
[12:53] <karni> m0e42: this is under Window Management in ccsm
[12:53] <ioria> Bern__, rerun that and then this    find ~/.local/share/Steam/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb.so*" \) -print -delete
[12:53] <m0e42> yep
[12:54] <m0e42> @karni http://askubuntu.com/questions/123977/how-to-ungroup-windows-on-task-switcher
[12:54] <m0e42> one of the last answers
[12:54] <Bern__> ioria hm didn't do any difference. But didn't get any output from that last command?
[12:56] <karni> m0e42: thank you!! :)
[12:56] <m0e42> @karni np, u're welcome ;)
[12:56] <lilwiz> ubskeur: I got an error. "Live cd not found".
[12:56] <ioria> Bern__, try this : LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/$LIB/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/$LIB/libxcb.so.1' steam
[12:57] <lilwiz> ubskeur: It said it had to do with initframfs or something similiar. I'm quite new to Linux so you'll have to excuse me if I spell something wrong ;)
[12:58] <ubskeur> lilwiz, this reminds me of an issue I was having yesterday...
[12:58] <justintv90> Hi ubuntu
[12:59] <ubskeur> lilwiz, did it look like this one? https://askubuntu.com/questions/153852/can-not-boot-initramfs-error
[13:00] <ubskeur> lilwiz, or like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12122088/
[13:01] <ubskeur> lilwiz, or better yet take a photo/ write down the error so we can diagnose it
[13:01] <justintv90> Is there any tweak guide for ubuntu, please
[13:02] <ubskeur> justintv90, what kind of tweaks?
[13:02] <m0e42> best tweak i know is to remove ubuntu :D
[13:02] <cfhowlett> justintv90, google ubuntu tweak.  first hit.
[13:02]  * ubskeur slaps m0e42 with a large trout
[13:02] <justintv90> My ubuntu is very lag on firefox, may i do something to solve this problem
[13:03] <ubskeur> justin_jnf, you have a few options, the easiest is to check the system monitor for applications you don't need
[13:03] <ubskeur> * justintv90
[13:03] <lilwiz> ubskeur: Sorry, got a phone call. I can't revert back to the error now. Let me look at your links quickly to see if I recognize any of them as the one I got.
[13:04] <m0e42> justintv90 maybe to many plugins in FireFox? i used FF for years but actually i use chrome/chromium cause FF gettin slower and slower over years
[13:04] <ubskeur> justintv90, you might consider a browser or distro that is slightly lighter, such as opera or lubuntu
[13:05] <justintv90> lubuntu ?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | justintv90
[13:05] <justintv90> Sorry i'm linux virgin
[13:05] <ubskeur> justintv90, we'll be gentle ;)
[13:05] <lilwiz> ubskeur: First one looks very much like it. I got into BusyBox. Now, all I did was running desktop, live-cd with 4GB of persistance, I navigated to Software Updates and let it ran. Rebooted after it completed. That got me to that busybox error.
[13:05] <justintv90> :))
[13:05] <lilwiz> I hope my adventures into Ubuntu helps you solve it ;)
[13:06] <ubskeur> lilwiz, why can't you see the error message now?
[13:06] <lilwiz> ubskeur: I can't see it now because I formatted the USB-stick with a fresh copy.
[13:07] <lilwiz> ubskeur: What I will try now is this, I have a live-cd with Ubuntu, I will install it onto another USB-drive and then boot it from that device and update it, only to reboot it and see if I get the same error.
[13:07] <m0e42> lubuntu could do the trick as usbkeur mentioned.
[13:07] <ubskeur> lilwiz, sounds like a plan
[13:07] <lilwiz> ubskeur: I'll let you know in a bit how it works.
[13:07] <ubskeur> lilwiz, I'm going to sleep, I'm sure someone around here will help you out, especially if you can show them the error message
[13:07] <ubskeur> night all
[13:08] <justintv90> And 1 more question, my compiz consumes 319 mb of ram, is it odd ?
[13:09] <m0e42> didn't run compiz for a while but looks like normal for me
[13:10] <m0e42> my debian8 with AwesomeWM uses 298MB in idle for the whole System :P
[13:13] <lilwiz> On a 16GB usb-drive that is going to run on a 4GB DDR3 ram laptop, is it recommended to have 4GB swap or is 2GB enough?
[13:15] <e-jovem> hello world
[13:15] <e-jovem> genten ?
[13:16] <e-jovem> Alguem ?
[13:16] <e-jovem> bbs
[13:16] <cfhowlett> e-jovem, ask your ubuntu question
[13:16] <e-jovem> flores do campo
[13:16] <cfhowlett> in english please
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> thats portuguese
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[13:16] <e-jovem> Thats potuguese man
[13:16] <cfhowlett> e-jovem, this is an English channel.  so.  your ubuntu question is ???
[13:17] <e-jovem> ué
[13:17] <e-jovem> what is this man ?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !topic | e-jovem
[13:17] <e-jovem> ok
[13:17] <e-jovem> or not
[13:17] <e-jovem> or yes
[13:17] <m0e42> @lilwiz depends on what u do with it. big files can file even the ram AND the 2GB swap. but today normaly i don't really need a swap, even on my laptop with 4GB
[13:18] <e-jovem> HI
[13:18] <m0e42> @lilwiz so 2GB should be enough
[13:18] <e-jovem> WHAT YOU DOING ?
[13:18] <e-jovem> man
[13:18] <OerHeks> e-jovem, keep this channel clear for ubuntu support please
[13:18] <lilwiz> m0e42: Thanks, I'll keep it 2GB then.
[13:18] <e-jovem> help mee
[13:18] <e-jovem> A don't know
[13:18] <e-jovem> bitch
[13:18] <m0e42> ...
[13:19] <m0e42> @lilwiz np
[13:19] <e-jovem> "mimimi my mac mimimi"
[13:19] <e-jovem> My pc is celeron
[13:19] <e-jovem> 2 bits
[13:19] <m0e42> it's a long time ago that i saw the last IRC Troll
[13:19] <e-jovem> and half
[13:19] <m0e42> remeber that good old times
[13:19] <e-jovem> Yeah
[13:20] <e-jovem> i miss to man
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> almost bak 2 skool, it'll be a lot quiter here
[13:20] <e-jovem> IS the internet revolution
[13:20] <e-jovem> wow
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> e-jovem  stop
[13:20] <e-jovem> but i'm here man
[13:20] <TJ-> e-jovem: If you do not need support please use the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:20] <e-jovem> in school
[13:20] <m0e42> no OP in here?
[13:21] <e-jovem> i really need some help :c
[13:21] <e-jovem> psicologic help
[13:21] <m0e42> yeah that's what i thought...
[13:21] <e-jovem> froid e pá
[13:21] <e-jovem> i'm feeling bad
[13:21] <OerHeks> !ops | e-jovem
[13:21] <badbodh> !op bring the hammer on e-jovem
[13:21] <e-jovem> i nedd some help
[13:21] <jpds> e-jovem: Please stpo
[13:22] <badbodh> not today
[13:22] <e-jovem> why not ?
[13:22] <m0e42> i think the help he needs can't be found in any irc chan
[13:22] <e-jovem> Don't believe in Froid ?
[13:23] <badbodh> he needs jesus
[13:23] <m0e42> i believe in magick
[13:23] <e-jovem> Maybe 3;)
[13:23] <e-jovem> don't believe me just whatch
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> ok guys, take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:23] <e-jovem> watch*
[13:24] <e-jovem> HI
[13:24] <e-jovem> MY CAPS LOCK LOCK
[13:25] <v0r0nwe> obrigado!
[13:25] <OerHeks> hi v0r0nwe, this channel is english only, please
[13:25] <badbodh> justintv90, lilwiz the spammer's gone, you can come out of your caves now.
[13:26] <m0e42> xD
[13:26]  * lilwiz can see the light again
[13:27] <badbodh> praise the lord you are alive ! now carry on with your Q/A
[13:27] <weeirc8089>  can anyone help me with basic compiling of graphics drivers?
[13:28] <OerHeks> weeirc8089, why? the open drivers are in the repos
[13:28] <weeirc8089> I'm trying to compile intel graphics driver: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/documentation/build-guide-0
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !compile | weeirc8089, but why would you need to compile?
[13:28] <OerHeks> weeirc8089, oh that site, not supported here, as intel is already available
[13:29] <m0e42> just let him tell us his problem and then we see
[13:29] <KlausedSource> I downloaded a java program (.jar-archive) and Installed iced-tea as my system vm. How do I run this .jar?
[13:29] <m0e42> maybe it's a oneLiner Answer
[13:30] <badbodh> KlausedSource, should be something like "java -jar /path/to/file.jar"
[13:31] <m0e42> @KlausedSource java -jar jarfile.jar
[13:31] <weeirc8089> when I run ./configure on libdrm (from 01.org) I get "The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old. ... Alternatively, you may set the environment variables PTHREADSTUBS_CFLAGS and PTHREADSTUBS_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
[13:31] <TJ-> KlausedSource: assuming you have a JRE installed: "java -jar /path/to/java.jar" ... you may also need to specify a Classpath with "-cp ..."
[13:31] <KlausedSource> badbodh, m0e42 TJ- thanks that was what I was looking for
[13:31] <weeirc8089> libdrm is not intel's it's rather common though
[13:32] <TJ-> weeirc8089: why are you compiling the intel drivers? those libraries are already included in the Ubuntu archives
[13:32] <weeirc8089> TJ-: the latest ones?
[13:32] <lilwiz> Ok. Not sure who followed my previous conversation. But I've installed Ubuntu onto a USB-drive, now running the update as I did before. After that, reboot to see if the same error is there.
[13:32] <TJ-> weeirc8089: depends on what you mean by 'latest', which in turn is often determined by the Ubuntu release in use.
[13:33] <weeirc8089> TJ-: how do I know the version of Xf86-video-intel installed
[13:33] <TJ-> !info libdrm2
[13:33] <m0e42> @weeirc8089 i googled a bit, someone mentioned something about libtoolize was missing
[13:33] <TJ-> !info libdrm-inte1
[13:33] <TJ-> !info libdrm-intel1
[13:33] <rory> Does anyone on 12.04 find that if you click a launcher icon it will sometimes flash as if it's opening, but you have to click it again in order to get it to actually open?
[13:34] <weeirc8089> nevermind I have a bad day
[13:34] <weeirc8089> I'll reformulate my question and will ask some other day
[13:34] <weeirc8089> thanks for the help
[13:34] <weeirc8089> .
[13:34] <m0e42> cya
[13:35] <badbodh> weeirc8089, intel drivers come pre-installed in nearly all distros. don;t upgrade/compile them even if it is tempting.
[13:35] <badbodh> it will break other packages.
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> what was the name of 12.04?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !lucid
[13:35] <m0e42> precise?
[13:35] <badbodh> xorg - intel drivers - xserver all are tied up.
[13:36] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: Precise Pangolin ?
[13:36] <m0e42> !precise
[13:36] <cfhowlett> precise.  dang.  I was WAY off!
[13:36] <SirDude0Lot> Good day, i am trying to setup a service on my system but it seems upstart is using the port? (8084) why would upstart need a network port and how can i disable this?
[13:36] <Pici> (doing !12.04  would also give you that factoid)
[13:37] <TJ-> SirDude0Lot: can you show us "sudo netstat -tnlp | grep 8084"
[13:37] <SirDude0Lot> unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     8084     -                   @/com/ubuntu/upstart
[13:38] <TJ-> SirDude0Lot: that isn't the command I asked you to run. That didn't have 't' in it
[13:39] <SirDude0Lot> TJ-: that results nothing
[13:39] <SirDude0Lot> was running netstat -nap
[13:39] <TJ-> SirDude0Lot: Correct - so upstart isn't listening on a TCP port at all, especially not 8084. You've misread the output of netstat. read the column headings and see "man netstat"
[13:39] <techkamar> hi der
[13:40] <SirDude0Lot> but the port is in use....
[13:40] <lilwiz> Ok, good news. If Ubuntu is installed onto a USB-device, it does work to update it. But if ran as a live-cd with persistance and updated, it will give you a "busybox" error.
[13:41] <TJ-> SirDude0Lot: The output you showed us doesn't report a network port in use, it shows a unix socket on a named socket. '8084' is the file-system I-node it is on
[13:42] <TJ-> SirDude0Lot: how about telling us what service you are trying to start, and show us in a pastebin what it reports?
[13:42] <lilwiz> Anyone familiar with libata and could give me a hand in disabling my on-board SSD from failing and halting boot over a minute?
[13:43] <lilwiz> There is a patch but there is no instructions on how I do it in "libata", link: https://superuser.com/questions/599333/how-to-disable-kernel-probing-for-drive
[13:44] <TJ-> lilwiz: which kernel version is in use ("uname -r") ?
[13:44] <lilwiz> TJ-, 3.19.0-15-generic
[13:44] <TJ-> lilstevie: let me check if we carry that patch already
[13:44] <TJ-> lilwiz: : let me check if we carry that patch already
[13:45] <lilwiz> Thank you!
[13:45] <TJ-> lilwiz: that'll be a Vivid install?
[13:45] <lilwiz> I'd just like Ubuntu (or if its grub) to skip checking ATA00 and ATA01 on boot. It keeps testing and testing.
[13:45] <lilwiz> TJ-: Correct.
[13:47] <thunderwillow> lilwiz, I would not recomend it, but you could edit your /etc/fstab(as root) and erase the "1" after every line
[13:47] <thunderwillow> lilwiz, make a backup of that file first though
[13:48] <Guest38582> I've been trying to figure out plymouth.  But, I just keep getting black screens instead.  On several systems, I've install the plymouth manager and/or manually installed a plymouth theme and all that ends of happening is a black screen during boot.  I've "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" and "sudo update-initramfs -u" before each reboot.
[13:48] <TJ-> thunderwillow: what are you talking about?!
[13:48] <lilwiz> thunderwillow: I could, I'm a newbie on Ubuntu and linux though. The link I read, it almost sounded like it was "patched" already and just a simple line in terminal to fix it. But maybe your suggestion is the better.
[13:48] <TJ-> lilwiz: ignore that - editing fstab has nothing at all to do with it
[13:49] <thunderwillow> the 1 mean disk checking doesn;t it
[13:49] <thunderwillow> ?
[13:53] <TJ-> lilwiz: OK, the patch is in the Vivid 3.19 kernel so you can use the option on the kernel command line
[13:53] <lilwiz> TJ-: How do I proceed if I'm in desktop?
[13:54] <m0e42> reboot and edited the startup line in bootmenu
[13:54] <m0e42> just for testing
[13:54] <lilwiz> By holding shift (googled)?
[13:55] <TJ-> lilwiz: identify the ataX.YY number of the device, then edit "/etc/default/grub" and add the entry to the line that starts GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, inside the double-quotes, space separated from other options that may be there.
[13:55] <baizon> Hi, I need some help. How can I securely delete a partition, so that no data can be recovered?
[13:55] <m0e42> or so
[13:55] <TJ-> lilwiz: Then update GRUBs on-disk grub.cfg with "sudo updte-grub"
[13:56] <TJ-> baizon: depending on the underlying device, it may or may not be possible. Superficially, you can zero it with "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdZ bs=100M", or randomise it with "if=/dev/urandom"
[13:57] <m0e42> @baizon best is to boot something like UBCD and erase it. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/dban.html
[13:57] <baizon> m0e42: but its an external drive, so why boot into an extra live system?
[13:57] <m0e42> or like TJ said dd it with /dev/random 2 or 3 times
[13:57] <justintv90> Hi everyone, can i integrate hexchat into message indicator ?
[13:58] <TJ-> baizon: if the target device reallocates blocks, or uses erase blocks (as in an SSD) then you'd need to erase the entire device to be sure all the blocks were almost gone
[13:58] <lilwiz> TJ-, so in my case (knowing it's ATA0) it would look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="libata.force=ata0:disable" ?
[13:58] <baizon> justintv90: sudo apt-get install hexchat-indicator
[13:58] <justintv90> then restart hexchat ?
[13:58] <TJ-> m0e42: why 2 or 3 times? That hasn't been required for years. That's folklore from when the hard disk drive servo's couldn't always fully align over the track on the platter
[13:58] <baizon> TJ-: is this enough?
[13:59] <m0e42> @baizon try nwipe from the terminal
[13:59] <baizon> m0e42: yeah i saw shred and wipe
[13:59] <TJ-> lilwiz: I think you need ...force=0.00 according to the article... each ATA channel can have 2 devices on it (master and slave)
[14:00] <OerHeks>  !info scrub
[14:00] <lilwiz> TJ-, I will try that.
[14:00] <m0e42> he want to secure erase data 1 time with zeros didn't clean everything, u can restore most of the data. after 2 or 3 circles u barely can restore any data
[14:00] <TJ-> m0e42: with 1980s/90s technology maybe, but not with anything made in the last 15 years
[14:01] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[14:01] <m0e42> i wouldn't rely on that TJ ;)
[14:01] <cfhowlett> agreed.
[14:01] <TJ-> m0e42: I would; I've been doing disk forensics since the 1980s
[14:01] <lilwiz> TJ-, just to make sure, you mean "libata.force=0.00:disable" and not "libata.force=ata0.00:disable", right?
[14:01] <Guest46352> l
[14:02] <TJ-> lilwiz: yes, that is correct (according to the article anyhow)
[14:02] <m0e42> hmm ok then i trust in your experiences ;)
[14:02] <catphish> does /etc/interfaces determine interface type by its name? and if so, can i override that to create interfaces with nonstandard names?
[14:02] <catphish> */etc/network/interfaces
[14:03] <lilwiz> TJ-, rebooting now to test, appreciate the help from you!
[14:03] <TJ-> m0e42: the issue you're referring to was when the recorded magnetic tracks were wider than the recording heads, and slight variations in the servos holding the heads over the tracks meant that there could be residual magnetic remains to the sides of the track centre. The idea of multiple passes was that it sohuld average out and overwhelm those remnants
[14:04] <OerHeks> catphish, sure, gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  # and chane "name"
[14:04] <OerHeks> *change
[14:04] <OerHeks> and reboot
[14:04] <arca_vorago> Morning all, anyone have any quick tips on how to save window locations? I have a multimonitor setup and want to launch a few terminals in set locations on monitors 3 & 4 everytime I log in
[14:04] <catphish> OerHeks: i think that's only for hardware detected interfaces, i want to do this for a bridge
[14:05] <mylord> should I install nvm with curl, or apt-get?
[14:05] <TJ-> catphish: there's many options, we've had traditional kernel names (ethX), biosdevnames (p1e2), and now systemd/udevd network device naming... it depends on which is in use as to how you can influence the naming
[14:05] <m0e42> @TJ ok, learned something again today :)
[14:05] <ametjan> hello
[14:05] <TJ-> catphish: for virtual interfaces, the tools will allow you to give the interface any legal name you want
[14:05] <catphish> i think maybe i need "mapping"
[14:06] <ametjan> can anyone  help me on setting up a serial  connection
[14:06] <lilwiz> TJ-, the boot this time wasn't as informative as before, by that I mean that it was just showing a purple background instead of the command line "jibberish" that it used to do. Do I hold down a key to enable that listing or..?
[14:06] <m0e42> normaly F2
[14:06] <lilwiz> TJ-, it booted fine though.
[14:06] <TJ-> lilwiz: you're seeing the Plymouth splash screen. Pressing Esc usually toggles that.
[14:06] <lilwiz> I'll reboot to test again.
[14:07] <TJ-> lilwiz: You can also disable 'splash' from the kernel command line if you want, by deleting from the setting you edited earlier
[14:07] <catphish> TJ-: do you happen to know how?
[14:08] <TJ-> lilwiz: if you hold Shift down at boot and get the grub boot manager menu, you can 'E'dit an entry, and delete the 'splash' parameter, then boot with the revised line using Ctrl+X or F10
[14:08] <TJ-> catphish: if it's a bridge all you need is to use the name you want in the "iface ...' line of "/etc/network/interfaces"
[14:08] <lilwiz> TJ-, I will try that. ESC or F2 (as m0e42 suggested) didn't do anything I'm afraid. Still just a purple background before entering desktop.
[14:09] <TJ-> lilwiz: Esc should always work for Plymouth, that's the key it listens for.
[14:09] <catphish> TJ-: how does that then relate to an "auto" line, and how will it know what type of interface to create
[14:10] <Edico> hi
[14:10] <catphish> oh, auto just enable the interface to come up automatically, nothing to do with its configuration, but how does the iface line know what type of interface to create?
[14:11] <TJ-> catphish: e.g. "iface br0 inet dhcp" ... "auto br0"   could become "iface myfabbridge inet dhcp" " auto myfabbridge"
[14:11] <lilwiz> TJ-, I should perhaps clearify, I'm running it off a USB flash drive, I installed it using another USB flash drive to run the installer ontop of it. Maybe that makes a difference? I tried holding down shift now, still just goes to the purple background and then black, then into desktop.
[14:11] <catphish> TJ-: thanks, i hoped i could do that, but how does it know to create a bridge?
[14:12] <TJ-> catphish: interesting question that... I've never wondered that! I guess, because a bridge will have "bridge_ports xxx xxx" too?
[14:12] <arca_vorago> well nobody answered but if you are curious the way to save window pos is to install zompiz-config-settings-manager and compiz-plugins-extra
[14:12] <catphish> TJ-: maybe it's that simple, i'll try it, thanks
[14:12] <Edico> I remained without space on my / (root) directory of 15 GB, I think it happened from the many updates I've made. any idea how can I make some space?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Edico, clean out some kernels
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Edico, sudo apt-get autoremove *might* help
[14:15] <TJ-> catphish: yep!  /etc/network/if-{pre-up,post-down}.d/bridge are sym-links to /lib/bridge-utils/fupdown.sh which looks for the bridge_ports entry or else exits immediately: case "$IF_BRIDGE_PORTS" in ...
[14:15] <catphish> TJ-: awesome, thanks for checking!
[14:16] <TJ-> catphish: strikes me as kind of fragile, you could easily 'fool' a sys-admin with that
[14:17] <mistawright> hi guys how can i make a persistent ubuntu flash drive?
[14:18] <Edico> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Edico, happy2help!
[14:18] <catphish> i'm making a GUI that configures bridges, i'm just trying to work out what to do if someone tries to make a bridge from an interface that already has IPs, i'll either refuse and make them modify their interfaces file, or move the IPs to the bridge automatically
[14:19] <TJ-> catphish: the latter option is the usual thing to do... gets to be fun though when several bridge_ports have IPs assigned, or there are alias interfaces
[14:19] <catphish> well it's made easier by the fat that there will only ever be one port in the bridge (it's for VMs)
[14:20] <TJ-> catphish: ahhh, that makes sense. You know that libvirt has that functionality ?
[14:20] <m0e42> so guys i'm out for no. works over. cya
[14:22] <catphish> TJ-: tbh i'm trying to avoid libvirt and implement the functionality myself as simply as possible, mostly so that i know what's happening at a low level, though i realise this may be causing me more trouble than its worth
[14:23] <TJ-> catphish: I don't blame you - libvirt makes my ears steam sometimes
[14:23] <catphish> libvirt has some great features, but my dislike of xml and excessive abstraction keep me away from it
[14:24] <TJ-> catphish: I assume you have to transfer the routing tables that have entries for the bridge_ports too?
[14:24] <catphish> TJ-: yes
[14:24] <TJ-> catphish: just thinking about how it would affect policy-based routing tables :)
[14:24] <catphish> i really don't anticipate any existing, but its worth remembering
[14:25] <catphish> i'm hoping this will be limited to a simple eth or bond interface with a couple of IPs and a default gateway
[14:25] <catphish> but there are all sorts of things i'm unsure about, like knowing which IPv6 addresses to move
[14:25] <gartral> hey all, I'm having a mild issue with a new computer that isn't dropping to idle CPU speed, it's an i7 4790k system with ubuntu 15.04 as it's only OS... it seems to be always running at it's turbo speed of 4.4ghz
[14:25] <TJ-> catphish: I can imagine :)
[14:26] <catphish> shame one can't just change the interface of an IP
[14:26] <TJ-> gartral: any clues in "/var/log/dmesg" ?
[14:26] <gartral> TJ-: oddly enough.... (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> gartral  did i already suggest thermeld and indicator-cpufreq to you?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> thermald*
[14:28] <TJ-> gartral: it's systemd... journald  isn't feeding to rsyslogd so you have to view/search the binary logs
[14:28] <gartral> TJ-: doing a dmesg | tail -n 120 shows nothing cpu-related, there's a few traces for a dodgy USB device, but that's nothing new
[14:28] <catphish> TJ-: on the other hand, if libvirt has a oneline CLI command to do this, i will probably use it in that way
[14:29] <gartral> MonkeyDust: I've not installed thermald
[14:29] <catphish> "virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0" that's awesome if it works
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> gartral  thermald decreases your machine's temperature, among others by slowing down the cpu
[14:30] <gartral> MonkeyDust: it was installed automagically... and indicator-cpufreq is installed but offers no real help
[14:30] <mainred> hi
[14:30] <gartral> MonkeyDust: it's not working, and I don't have control over frequencies with indicator-cpufreq
[14:30] <TJ-> gartral: I'd expect any clues to be very early on when the kernel is figuring out the CPUs. Can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )" ?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> gartral  you don't? that's odd.. I do
[14:32] <TJ-> catphish: yes, that was what I was referring to earlier
[14:32] <gartral> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12135832/
[14:35] <TJ-> gartral: "[    0.024751] Your BIOS is broken and requested that x2apic be disabled."
[14:35] <catphish> TJ-: the only problem is - it doesn't work - it just locked me out :)
[14:35] <TJ-> gartral: see line 348+ of the pastebin
[14:35] <TJ-> catphish: really? I've used it routinely when doing manual operations
[14:36] <TJ-> catphish: what VM hypervisor is it? KVM, LXC?
[14:36] <catphish> TJ-: oh - my mistake, the interface was dhcp, it got a new ip
[14:36] <catphish> (just a test host)
[14:37] <catphish> TJ-: more awesomely, it even rewrite my interfaces file to make it permenent
[14:37] <gartral> TJ-: uh-huh... weird.. so where do I "intremap=no_x2apic_optout"? is that a kernerl setting for grub?
[14:37] <catphish> *rewrote
[14:37] <catphish> TJ-: thanks, i think i'm happy to use that
[14:37] <lexflex> hi
[14:38] <lexflex> anyone got any experience running photoshop inside a VM on Ubuntu? i can't seem to make it work without severe performance lags even though I've got a beefy system
[14:38] <Keir0n> Hey guys, today i bought a Laptop for my son. He is not very experienced with Computers and often downloads Malware/Adware, so i wanted to intall him Ubuntu. I know, Linux isnt virus free but i think it will be a lot safer. I still want to keep Windows 8.1 as Dualboot tho, is that possible? He only plays Minecraft and some other Games, but not every game is supported on Linux, is it easy to install GPU drivers? The last time i tried to
[14:39] <Keir0n> ary OS) i just got a blackscreen after trying to install it via Command Line.
[14:39] <TJ-> gartral: kernel command line; not sure it affects the issue you're asking about, but it's something to track and test to see if it helps the system generally. I'm still reading dmesg for clues
[14:39] <Keir0n> I feel like ubuntu would be very good for him
[14:39] <lexflex> Keir0n: yeah that's a common scenario i believe. I've set up a dual boot myself just this week
[14:40] <cfhowlett> Keir0n, yes you can dual boot.  2.  make an account just for him - a DESKTOP USER account with low privileges so he can't install things.   3.  yes, nvidia, amd and intel gpu support
[14:40] <TJ-> gartral: line 730+   "[    0.548328] Intel P-state driver initializing."
[14:40] <catphish> Keir0n: yes, this should be fine, the ubuntu installer should set up the dual boot for you
[14:40] <catphish> Keir0n: i believe minecraft works on linux too :)
[14:40] <gartral> Keir0n: yes, minecraft is a java game and wotrks fine in ubunut, and the additional drivers are easy to install! dual-boot won't be a problem either!
[14:40] <catphish> in my experience, vga drivers on ubuntu are very easy now
[14:41] <catphish> even proprietary nvidia / ati is all automated now
[14:41] <gartral> TJ-: yup, that should adjust clocking, right?
[14:41] <lexflex> Keir0n, also SteamOS is coming soon and that alone will push linux gaming to new heights. check out Steam and how many games are supported on Linux now!
[14:41] <catphish> you don't really need steamos, steam on ubuntu should have all the same functionality afaik
[14:42] <catphish> i've been using it for ages
[14:42] <catphish> game support is fast improving, though of course still a long way behind windows
[14:42] <gartral> TJ-: if it turns out i can't adjust my clocks.. oh friggin' well.. literally everything else just works on this machine
[14:42] <lexflex> catphish, no i didn't mean to say you need steamOS. but the fact that steam is making consoles based on linux makes game developers support linux by the dozens now
[14:42] <catphish> lexflex: oh i see, yes that is awesome
[14:42] <Keir0n> Thank you guys! NVIDIA has Drivers for the GPU (NVIDIA Geforce GT635m) but i werent able to get them working on ElementaryOS. Do i need to disable Fastboot or is that also automated in the Installer?
[14:43] <EugenA> anybody using taskwarrior? how would you edit description of a task?
[14:43] <gartral> Keir0n: you will need to disable fastboot automatically
[14:43] <gartral> Keir0n: er, manually*
[14:43] <catphish> what is fastboot?
[14:43] <gartral> catphish: windows-specific efi stuff..
[14:44] <lexflex> nobody using photoshop on ubuntu my means of virtualization? come one i can't be the only one! ;)
[14:44] <catphish> ah ok
[14:44] <cfhowlett> lexflex, photoshop on linux is not a workable solution.  sorry, but it's just not.
[14:44] <Keir0n> Okay, ill make an bootable USB stick now. SecureBoot too?
[14:45] <catphish> Keir0n: can't comment specifically on the GT635m, but if the ubuntu automatically installed nvidia drivers arne't new enough, it's fairly easy to make a change to install much newer drivers
[14:45] <lexflex> cfhowlett, even with a VM?
[14:45] <gartral> TJ-: I'm going to reboot and enable intremap=no_x2apic_optout
[14:45] <cfhowlett> lexflex, nope.  vm doesn't provide native gpu support therefore ...
[14:45] <gartral> Keir0n: secureboot can be left alone, there are signed kernels now that work with it
[14:45] <catphish> gartral: that's awesome
[14:46] <lexflex> cfhowlett, kinda feared that. I've already started looking into using KVM with PCI passthru but it's daunting
[14:46] <Guest72408> I'm not able install ubuntu alongside my windows 8 pro in HP notebook.
[14:46] <Guest72408> Please help me to solve this.
[14:46] <gartral> Keir0n: *HOWEVER* many laptops don't recognize the signiture... you *may* have to disable it anyway!
[14:47] <catphish> is virtualbox's 2d acceleration stuff not good enough?>
[14:47] <gartral> Guest72408: go into bios and disable fastboot
[14:47] <cfhowlett> lexflex, check out ubuntustudio-photography or ubuntustudio-graphics for alternatives.
[14:47] <TJ-> gartral: can you show us "pastebinit <( for n in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/*; do echo $n = $(sudo cat $n); done )"
[14:47] <Guest72408> where can I get ns-2 software for ubuntu
[14:48] <lexflex> catphish, I don't know about virtualbox. working with VMWare workstation now and i run into performance lags pretty quickly.
[14:48] <gartral> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12135953/
[14:48] <cfhowlett> Guest72408, http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/ns-build.html
[14:48] <bishops> quick question: what do you prefer firefox or chromium??
[14:49] <Guest72408> Thank you.
[14:49] <bishops> and why
[14:49] <catphish> lexflex: i'd give virtualbox a try, though personally i've never tried photoshop with it
[14:49] <TJ-> gartral: looks like you may need to change the scaling governor, because "/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq = 4400000"  ... _min_ is the same as _max_
[14:50] <catphish> lexflex: unfortunately the next step would be very complicated with pci passthrough
[14:50] <lexflex> cfhowlett, do you think my lags are due to lack of dedicated GPU? what i observe in system monitor is CPU spikes when lags happen
[14:51] <gartral> TJ-: i only have two governers available, "Performance" and "Powersave" I'm using "Powersave" right now and it's not doing jack
[14:51] <TJ-> lexflex: yes, since the GPU is having to be software emulated in many ways.
[14:51] <lexflex> catphish, yeah, that passthrough sounds terrifying and exciting at the same time. i really want to keep ubuntu as main operating system and avoid going back to windows but this is kind of a bummer
[14:51] <gartral> TJ-: I'mm reboot and do the intremap=no_x2apic_optout trick
[14:51] <TJ-> gartral: Yes, that's what I mean. you need to figure out how to alter that _min_ or to use an alternative governor. You'll need to read up on that though
[14:51] <TJ-> gartral: OK
[14:52] <lexflex> TJ-: so a stab at PCI passtrough might solve it then, wouldn't it?
[14:52] <TJ-> PCI pass-through with IOMMU/VT-d is quite simple. It's the same as mapping a host USB device into a VM guest.
[14:52] <cfhowlett> bishops, please don't poll this channel.  use what works for YOU
[14:53] <lexflex> TJ- I'm not 100% sure if my mainboard supports VT-d. My CPU does
[14:53] <TJ-> lexflex: The mobo chipset must support IOMMU/VT-d (directed I/O) and the system will probably need 2 separate GPUs if you want to use the host with a display, too
[14:53] <Keir0n> I read that performance is also better when playing on linux, is that true?
[14:53] <catphish> needing a second GPU would be the main issue
[14:53] <bishops> cfhowlett: alright, I was just genuinely curious to know what knowledgeable people think. But I don't want to cause controversy obviously
[14:53] <Keir0n> excuse me if i sound like a noob :P
[14:54] <catphish> Keir0n: i believe valve did some tests and found that source games ran *marginally* better on linux
[14:54] <lexflex> TJ- couldn't I use the onboard-graphics for host ubuntu and passthru the nvidia card to the VM?
[14:54] <catphish> Keir0n: i doubt it would make much difference either way though
[14:54] <TJ-> lexflex: if they are both discrete GPUs (not Optimus) yes, very likely
[14:54] <cfhowlett> bishops, no worries.
[14:56] <lexflex> TJ-: the board is this: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z87PRO/specifications/
[14:57] <catphish> i cant think how the host OS would handle the mouse sharing if it wasnt aware of the guest monitor
[14:57] <Keir0n> Should i use Ubuntu 15.04 or 14.04.3 LTS?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Keir0n, 5 years support on 14.04.3
[14:58] <catphish> Keir0n: for a desktop, as long as you're happy to upgrade it later, 15.04, but for zero hassle (and older software) 14.04
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> <3 14.04.3
[14:58] <catphish> i use 14.04 on servers, but i'd always use the latest on a home pc
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> catphish  sounds healthy
[14:59] <catphish> do they even make non-lts server releases, i cant imagine people would want to use them
[14:59] <catphish> i recall they used to exist, caused no end of problems when prople didnt bother to upgrade them
[15:00] <OerHeks> if you want to development, with systemD, go for 15.04
[15:01] <Keir0n> Just basic youtube/webbrowsing and playing a few games
[15:01] <catphish> oh yeah, makes sense for that
[15:01] <catphish> Keir0n: hard to say, maybe try 14.04 first, if it does everything you need, stick with it
[15:02] <vanishing> hey #ubuntu, I remember seeing a project where it watches certain folders(of your choice), and whenever a new files is created in that folder, it it automatically moved to other locations depending on the filetype
[15:02] <vanishing> can anyone remind me of what that project was?
[15:02] <TJ-> lexflex see http://ark.intel.com/products/75013/Intel-DH82Z87-PCH
[15:02] <FatalNIX> meep
[15:03] <gartral> TJ-: I'm back...
[15:03] <TJ-> lexAngeles: under "Advanced Technologies" ... VT-d  --> "No"
[15:03] <TJ-> lexflex: under "Advanced Technologies" ... VT-d  --> "No"
[15:03] <jil> Hi
[15:04] <mcphail> vanishing: no idea about what project that was, but you can easily roll-your-own using incron
[15:04] <gartral> TJ-: does this look any better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12136030/
[15:04] <jil> Do you know of free ssl certificat other that startssl ?
[15:04] <mcphail> !info incron | vanishing
[15:04] <TJ-> gartral: no, _min_ is the same as _max_
[15:05] <vanishing> mcphail: I just wish theres such app in repo that i can just grab and use..lol
[15:05] <justintv90> Hi forks, there is any Gmail notify for message indicator ?
[15:05] <mcphail> vanishing: there may well be, but incron is so easy I haven't needed to look for anything else :)
[15:05] <TJ-> vanishing: sounds like it'd be based on inotify{watch,wait}
[15:06] <vanishing> seems like I'll have to just get on with my crappy scripting skills and get my own script. thanks mcphail and TJ-
[15:07] <alimj> Hello. I am migrating from old HDD (which in LUKS encrypted) to a new 4TB HDD (on a relatively old BIOS). Questions on partitioning strategy
[15:07] <lexflex> TJ-: ah, so basically i'd have to check the chipset of the MB on the intel ark?
[15:07] <lexflex> well, of the next MB i buy, that is
[15:07] <TJ-> !info inotify-hookable | vanishing
[15:07] <alimj> I am creating 1st primary 4GB partition for /boot
[15:08] <TJ-> lexflex: Yes
[15:08] <alimj> Then the rest of this as extended partition
[15:08] <alimj> On extended I will be creating first 8GB logical partition for swap
[15:08] <fwaokda> how can i see what version of freetds i have install on my ubuntu?
[15:09] <alimj> and the then 128GB for /
[15:09] <alimj> And finally the rest for /home
[15:09] <alimj> No encryption this time.
[15:09] <alimj> Should it be fine?
[15:10] <TJ-> alimj: why not simply use LVM so you can vary the file-system sizes in the future with minimal obstacles?
[15:10] <alimj> TJ-, I am little bit paranoid. On old HDD I had LVM over LUKS (even for SWAP)
[15:11] <TJ-> alimj: I would use LVM and leave at least 20% of the extends in the volume group unallocated; and have them available if some LV needs extending later.
[15:11] <TJ-> alimj: Yes, LUKS+LVM is a good solution
[15:11] <mcphail> vanishing: if you run "apt-cache search inotify", there might be a tool in there for you
[15:12] <lexflex> TJ- thank you. well that rules out PCI passthrough then
[15:12] <gartral> TJ-: whelp.. i added the flag.. no help.. you say the govener is being dumb?
[15:13] <alimj> TJ-, Since both /boot and root are on 1st 2TB of HDD, I should be on the safe side? I am a little bit paranoid on having a 4TB drive on an outdated machine
[15:13] <vanishing> mcphail: hmmm...think I found it. clsync
[15:13] <vanishing> gonna look into it, thanks
[15:13] <mustmodify> my /boot is full. Can I delete what's in there?
[15:14] <mcphail> vanishing: another one which looks to have potential is inoticoming
[15:14] <TJ-> gartral: it looks that way; _min_ is _max_ so something isn't right. I'd think maybe it is the kernel not properly reporting the Speed-steps of the CPU.
[15:14] <mustmodify> Looks like mvlinuz-3.13.0-nn-generic.* and System.map-3.13.0-xx-generic
[15:14] <gartral> TJ-: so it's a kernel bug?
[15:15] <mcphail> mustmodify: have you run "apt-get autoremove"?
[15:16] <TJ-> gartral: possibly; i assume that i7 has speedstep
[15:16] <mustmodify> mcphail: no. I'll do that.
[15:17] <gartral> TJ-: it does
[15:18] <quozd> join ##javascript
[15:20] <TJ-> gartral:  hints suggest this may be a firmware/BIOS settings issue. See e.g. http://kolbusa.livejournal.com/71066.html?nojs=1
[15:33] <TJ-> gartral: there's a very good discussion of this - Intel p-states - in this kernel bug report (TLDR: it's OK and expected behaviour)  https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57141
[15:35] <hoodedice> uname -m returns i686, I'm taking this to mean I'm running a 32 bit arch
[15:37] <mustmodify> mcphail: That command also failed because /boot was so full. So I removed a few files and then it worked.
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> hoodedice  yes, but do this, what's the very last line?     sudo dmidecode --type 4
[15:39] <hoodedice> "64 bit capable*
[15:39] <hoodedice> *""
[15:40] <hoodedice> Is this about my CPU? I'm know it can do 64-bit.
[15:41] <hoodedice> however, I guess I installed the wrong version by mistake. Is there a way to change architectures without a clean install?
[15:42] <rumpy1> whats the best way to gain traction on a bug report? ive tried my best reporting some bugs, which are pretty serious to me, but they seem to be getting ignored?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> hoodedice  no, that's not possible
[15:42] <hoodedice> Alright, thanks
[15:43] <mcphail> rumpy1: keep poking. Unfortunately there are far more bugs than there are bug-fixers
[15:44] <popey> rumpy1: are they confirmed / triaged? or just "new"?
[15:45] <rumpy1> one is confirmed (someone else commented having the same issue) and the other one is new
[15:45] <shiftx_> Hey.. Do anyone know how to get facebook password? I know email password but dont want to reset fb password.
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> shiftx_  wrong channel
[15:46] <k1l> shiftx_: that would be best to talk to the facebook support
[15:46] <mcphail> shiftx_: you may find it stored in the firefox password list
[15:46] <shiftx_> Nah, I didnt store them
[15:46] <mikalauskas> or in 1password ;D
[15:46] <mcphail> shiftx_: then I don't think we can help here
[15:46] <rumpy1> mcphail: what do you mean by 'poking'?
[15:47] <shiftx_> okay. anyways thanks
[15:47] <mikalauskas> bump?
[15:47] <mcphail> rumpy1: add as much detail as you can, attaching files and logs etc
[15:48] <mcphail> rumpy1: if the package maintainer is active on IRC you can ask directly
[15:48] <mikalauskas> the best way is trying to fix by yourself
[15:48] <mikalauskas> *try
[15:48] <mikalauskas> nah
[15:48] <mcphail> rumpy1: and what mikalauskas says ^^
[15:48] <mikalauskas> english is hard
[15:48] <rumpy1> mikalauskas: well ofcourse ive googled and tried different fixes/workaraounds, but it didnt help
[15:49] <TJ-> rumpy1: it often depends on how easy the issue is to reproduce, as to how much attention bugs will get, too
[15:50] <rumpy1> mcphail: well i might not know what i have to include, i would be very happy if someone commented that x or y is needed from me
[15:50] <mcphail> rumpy1: yes, many bugs go without any comment, which is sad
[15:50] <mikalauskas> is the issue hardware related or just software bug?
[15:51] <rumpy1> mikalauskas: hardware related, basically usb3 breaks suspend for me
[15:51] <mikalauskas> ouch.
[15:51] <mcphail> rumpy1: I don't have any boxes with USB3 ports to confirm your bugs, unfortunately
[15:51] <rumpy1> ive seen this bug a few times on askubuntu
[15:52] <rumpy1> maybe only certain chipset(s) are affected
[15:52] <rumpy1> otherwise more people would talk about it
[15:52] <mikalauskas> then wait for kernel patch
[15:52] <rumpy1> well usb3 is not some bleeding edge thing anymore...
[15:53] <mikalauskas> wifi still fail sometimes
[15:53] <TJ-> rumpy1: what bug numbers?
[15:53] <rumpy1> yeah, had huge troubles with wifi and bluetooth, finally seems to be fixed in kernel 4.2 :)
[15:54] <rumpy1> TJ-: #1486581 and #1441285
[15:55] <rumpy1> been using Ubuntu for 10 years now, on different computers, being used to that everything is not working as expected :)
[15:55] <rumpy1> maybe it wouldnt work on windows either, hehe
[15:55] <mikalauskas> i think you have to provide som more logs
[15:56] <TJ-> bug #1486581
[15:56] <TJ-> bug #1441285
[15:57] <rumpy1> i would love to, but i dont know what exactly is needed
[15:58] <mcphail> rumpy1: I'm afraid the upstream kernels won't be supported, so you are not going to get much traction on the bug reports unless you are running stock
[15:59] <TJ-> rumpy1: re: #1486581 "4.2 RC7" ... as soon as anyone sees that, the default reaction is "unsupported". If the bug report included details for a supported kernel it might get some notice. However, it is assigned to the acpid package whereas the usb3 driver is in 'linux' kernel
[15:59] <rumpy1> oh boy, cant properly use wifi/bluetooth on stock kernel
[15:59] <rumpy1> well, i guess i have to wait for 15.10
[16:00] <mcphail> rumpy1: the other thing is to make sure you create a better title for the bug report. "Automatic resume from suspend" doesn't give much information, and wouldn't catch the eye of someone looking for a project to fix
[16:00] <rumpy1> though the problem was present in stock kernels too
[16:00] <TJ-> rumpy1: OK, but if you can confirm the resume issue also affects stock, that is useful info. If it doesn't then you've found a regression
[16:01] <mcphail> rumpy1: I can check 15.04 with my E173 later
[16:01] <TJ-> I've updated bug #1486581
[16:03] <rumpy1> TJ-: thank you! i can boot with a stock kernel, but what logs should i include?
[16:04] <TJ-> rumpy1: do the suspend/resume test, then attach "/var/log/kern.log" (assuming systemd is allowing that to be written to - I'm not sure it is)
[16:04] <mikalauskas> im not sure but this will be useful too bash -x /etc/acpi/sleep.sh >/root/sleep.log 2>&1
[16:04] <mikalauskas> :-$
[16:06] <rumpy1> ok, ill do it
[16:07] <rumpy1> i appreaciate you guys being so helpful!
[16:07] <rumpy1> appreciate
[16:08] <ajnr> Hi
[16:09] <v0r0nwe> hi
[16:11] <ajnr> Can any one suggest me which laptop is best for ubuntu. I need to buy one with ubuntu OS. Minimum 8 GB RAM. Currently my ubuntu system is running on HP Probook 4430 s and the bettery life is not upto the mark. it drains within 1.5 hour, but my colleague have same laptop run on windows which gives better battery life. Please suggests.
[16:11] <OerHeks> !hcl
[16:11] <v0r0nwe> ajnr: what do you want TO DO with your laptop?
[16:12] <v0r0nwe> I had running latest ubuntu on an old thinkpad t400 8GB without any trouble...
[16:12] <ajnr> v0r0nwe, not clear what you are saying
[16:13] <webber_> oi
[16:13] <webber_> me ajudem
[16:13] <ajnr> I have done lots of experiment with my current one but as it has only 4 GB RAM and battery life is pathetic , I am planning to buy new one, now the question is which hardware is best for ubuntu
[16:13] <v0r0nwe> ajnr: which hardware you need totally depends on what you have to do with it :)
[16:14] <webber_> sou do brasil
[16:14] <k1l> !br | webber_
[16:14] <webber_> meu navegador nao entrar
[16:15] <ajnr> v0r0nwe, okey
[16:15] <v0r0nwe> ajnr: perhaps just replace your battery?
[16:15] <ajnr> v0r0nwe, already done once !
[16:15] <v0r0nwe> aaah ok..
[16:16] <ajnr> v0r0nwe, need higher RAM also as need to do some computational stuffs !
[16:16] <v0r0nwe> ok
[16:16] <SCHAAP137> 24GB here
[16:17] <v0r0nwe> personally, i would always try to upgrade existing syste instead of buying complete new system...
[16:17] <v0r0nwe> ddr3 is cheap enough today :)
[16:17] <ajnr> me too , but RAM up-gradation is not possible v0r0nwe
[16:17] <ajnr> v0r0nwe, lets see
[16:17] <v0r0nwe> ok ok
[16:22] <ajnr> any way thanks
[16:23] <linocisco> hi all
[16:23] <v0r0nwe> hi linocisco
[16:24] <linocisco> while burning using brasero, ctlr+0 cant even help me to view desktop files
[16:25] <linocisco> all files on desktop disappeared
[16:25] <linocisco> 15.04 is mine
[16:26] <theTsar> linocisco: have you checked in the terminal or file-explorer?
[16:26] <theTsar> linocisco: at ~/Desktop
[16:26] <theTsar> linocisco: to determine if the files are really gone or just hidden.
[16:27] <v0r0nwe> linocisco: check ls -la ~/Desktop
[16:27] <aeden__D> ls -a
[16:27] <v0r0nwe> argh
[16:27] <linocisco> theTsar just hidden
[16:28] <linocisco> when i broswe , i can seee in side Desktop
[16:28] <theTsar> linocisco: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true
[16:28] <linocisco> but i think brasero take priority so that no cmmand can supersede
[16:29] <linocisco> theTsar i dont understand
[16:29] <theTsar> linocisco: that's the command in the terminal that toggles whether the icons on the desktop are visible.
[16:30] <theTsar> linocisco: are you saying that the icons only disappear while brasero is running?
[16:30] <linocisco> theTsar yes
[16:30] <mcphail> rumpy1: Frustratingly, although I can find the box and the end-cap for my E173, I cannot find the device itself. I'll append to your bug report if it turns up
[16:30] <theTsar> linocisco: and they come back when it finishes?
[16:30] <rumpy1> mcphail: np, thank you very much!
[16:30] <lickalott> JT-, you around?
[16:31] <linocisco> theTsar yes
[16:31] <linocisco> theTsar why did the hell happen?
[16:31] <lickalott> when you do jump in... THANK YOU!!   I now have a single entry in my cryptroot.  Haven't had a boot issue since last night.
[16:32] <TJ-> rumpy1: I updated bug #1441285
[16:32] <rumpy1> TJ-: thanks!
[16:32] <lickalott> TJ-,   sorry  ^^ was for you
[16:33] <lickalott> I have fatness of the fingers today
[16:33] <TJ-> lickalott: Right, so we *do* have a bu then. Can you do "ubuntu-bug linux" and tell me the bug number? I'll copy in all the data we collected yesterday about it ... I've still got all the pastebins open!
[16:33] <TJ-> s/bu/bug/
[16:33] <theTsar> linocisco: can't say that I really know.  That's odd.  As if brasero and gnome/unity are competing for the same resource or something.
[16:33] <TJ-> lickalott: sorry, "ubuntu-bug cryptsetup" !!!
[16:34] <linocisco> theTsar let it be
[16:35] <lickalott> it doesn't give me a bug # TJ-
[16:35] <linocisco> I am promoting everyone to use ubuntu but disappointed to see doggone shit and they will turn to windows
[16:35] <lickalott> oh  wait!
[16:35] <lickalott> i didn't hit send
[16:35] <TJ-> lickalott: It should submit a bug and open a browser window for you to complete the report and submit it... at that point you'll have the bug #
[16:35] <lickalott> So will I have to do this again with any new kernel pushes?
[16:36] <TJ-> lickalott: No... I want us to have a bug number to track this, I can try reproducing it in an virtual machine, and then fix it
[16:36] <lilwiz> TJ-, TLP or Laptop Mode Tools? Recommend any of them?
[16:36] <TJ-> lickalott: ahhh, you mean, redo the manual alteration for kernel updates? Yes... until I can get a patch published
[16:37] <TJ-> lickalott: it looks like a severe regression since it prevents a proper boot
[16:38] <lickalott> I'm gonna throw you a pm to ensure that I have everything in the event that I have to do this again.
[16:38] <lickalott> also, number is coming.  I had to reset my ubuntu one pw
[16:38] <aeden__D> Linocisco: have you tweeked anything I.e gnome-tweek-tool maybe?
[16:39] <theTsar> linocisco: there's plenty of that to found in Windows too.  That's why I switched to Linux :P
[16:39] <aeden__D> Can you think of anything you may have changed prior to the problem linocisco
[16:39] <theTsar> linocisco: but I get what you mean.
[16:40] <lilwiz> When installing Ubuntu 15.04, does it come with the latest Intel Graphics for Linux or should I install them manually?
[16:41] <lilwiz> I'm looking at https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.1.0
[16:41] <x_root> hello, any tips to enable hardware acceleration on a amd-apu powered machine?
[16:41] <lickalott> TJ-,  just submit the bug without info in it?
[16:41] <TJ-> lickalott: Yes... I'll add to it
[16:42] <polonia> i cant work with ubuntu only www
[16:42] <x_root> every time I try to watch a video on vlc, for example, the program try to enable by using "libvdpau_nvidia.so", but.. it's a amd gpu.. =/
[16:42] <lickalott> TJ-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1487127
[16:44] <TJ-> lickalott: OK, I've assigned it to me
[16:44] <ioria> x_root, take a look , Point 5   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD#Enabling_Video_Hardware_Acceleration
[16:44]  * lickalott bows to TJ- 
[16:44] <polonia> why in windows i can more work
[16:45] <x_root> polonia, what kind of work you have?
[16:45] <x_root> maybe is just a matter of find the right program ;)
[16:45] <polonia> everithing
[16:45] <k1l> polonia: this is ubuntu support. what is your ubuntu issue?
[16:46] <x_root> vainfo returned 0 ioria
[16:46] <polonia> i install ubuntu
[16:46] <x_root> but, maybe is this? "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/va/drivers/fglrx_drv_video.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/fglrx_drv_video.so" ?
[16:46] <polonia> what i can do with
[16:46] <polonia> only www
[16:46] <x_root> i tried to find the /usr/lib/va folder and seems to not exist (ubuntu 15.04)
[16:46] <polonia> and open office
[16:46] <k1l> polonia: you can do everything that you did in windows before. so what is your exact issue?
[16:46] <orated> Hi! After recent updates, whatever I have in /etc/grub_d/40_custom is not getting updated to grub. How can I solve this issue?
[16:46] <polonia> i search abilify ubuntu
[16:47] <polonia> ability
[16:47] <k1l> polonia: there is #ubuntu-pl where you can ask in polish
[16:47] <polonia> ok
[16:54] <Trinity> how do I convert an .abw file into a .pdf without online tools?
[16:54] <Trinity> is there something I can _download_ to use?
[16:55] <theTsar> Trinity: print to PDF from Abiword
[16:55] <Trinity> theTsar, ? can you elaborate?
[16:55] <Twirl> hello, anyone knows how to take screenshots without ubuntu doing anything to the screen?
[16:56] <samthewildone> printscrn
[16:56] <samthewildone> Twirl: ^
[16:56] <Twirl> i need to take a screenshot of a program and it changes focus and then takes the screenshot and its freaking stupid
[16:56] <theTsar> Trinity: the system print dialog should allow you to select an option to just save as PDF instead of actually sending to a printer.  This is commonly called "printing to PDF"
[16:56] <Twirl> samthewildone: is that a package?
[16:56] <samthewildone> Twirl: there's a cli option where you could set a set amount  of time to shoot; I fogot though
[16:56] <Twirl> what?
[16:57] <Trinity> theTsar, ah, I cant believe I missed it save file as type .pdf thanks!
[16:57] <theTsar> Trinity: np
[16:57] <samthewildone> Twirl: apt-get install imagemagic
[16:58] <OerHeks> !info gnome-screenshot
[16:58] <OerHeks> Twirl, this toll has a timer/focus etc
[16:58] <samthewildone> Twirl: then do a man or --help argument to see how to take screenshot within specific time
[16:58] <samthewildone> OerHeks: I believe that it breaks what he's trying to shoot
[16:59] <samthewildone> !imagemagick |
[16:59] <OerHeks> really ? never noticed that.
[16:59] <samthewildone> !imagemagick | Twirl
[17:00] <samthewildone> Twirl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194427/what-is-the-terminal-command-to-take-a-screenshot
[17:00] <samthewildone> OerHeks: I need your help
[17:03] <firebort_> s
[17:08] <samthewildone> time to disable all these annoying logs of connecting and disconnecting
[17:11] <DJones> !quietirc | samthewildone If you haven't already done it for your client, this should help,
[17:13] <samthewildone> !quietirc
[17:13] <samthewildone> DJones: using weechat so still learning the ropes
[17:14]  * OerHeks loves to read those funny ip adresses
[17:16] <samthewildone> there we go !
[17:16] <samthewildone> it was "/filter add joinquit * irc_join,irc_part,irc_quit *"
[17:16] <samthewildone> so much more cleaner
[17:17] <samthewildone> OerHeks: so much leaving and joining, chats get lost
[17:21] <linocisco> o> I am going to install ubuntu server 14.04-2 64bit on existing Elastix server which is CentOS based and take up the whole HDD when installed, How can I add ubuntu server installation along side of it and make dual boot.?
[17:22] <goju> I need help to purge a game that didn't work in my ubuntu 14.04 LTS , but I still see it in my Nautilus , its a getdeb game Wofenstein: Enemy Territory
[17:22] <v0r0nwe> apt-get purge ?
[17:23] <goju> Can U make the game work...? I tried several times
[17:23] <RaySl> Having some issues getting 802.11n to work, wavemon shows 5Ghz N networks, but I cant join it.
[17:23] <drkjstr> linocisco, When installing Ubuntu, you will have the option for a customized install.  At that time you can resize partitions and make one for Ubuntu.
[17:24] <goju> yes...what I mean to say is that completely remove all the traces first
[17:24] <linocisco> drkjstr, how do I resize, and if I resize, will it affect existing Elastix components not to function?
[17:24] <goju> v0r0nwe: any suggestion ?
[17:26] <molgrum> how do i check the date a package in a repository was created?
[17:26] <drkjstr> linocisco, are you at the installation destination part of the install?
[17:27] <k1l> linocisco: you can start a live ubuntu and use gparted to resize the partitions to your needs. if the other server install can live with that? good question. should be, but cant know
[17:27] <v0r0nwe> goju: sorry, no, im not really into games
[17:27] <lilwiz> Hibernate doesn't seem to work properly on Ubuntu 15.04 installed on a USB-stick, it shuts off but on resume, Natulus is missing and you can't tab or do much of anything.
[17:27] <weeirc8089> when trying to compile intel graphics latest driver I get when executing ./configure: "checking for XORG... no" and "Error: package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.6 xproto fontsproto pixman-1 >= 0.16 ) were not met: no package 'xorg-server' found ..." as opposed to "checking for DRM.. yes" line which appears earlier I tried "apt-cache search xorg-server" and the only result I got was: "xorg-server-source -
[17:27] <weeirc8089> Xorg X server - source files" -- is this really the right package?
[17:27] <goju> ok then at least help me to purge them completely
[17:32] <linocisco> drkjstr, I am now at the stage of Partitioning Disks . options to choose
[17:33] <x_root> hello again guys, i'm on linux now...
[17:33] <thatjamaicandude> quick help question: can I use a remote touch screen with mine via remmina?
[17:33] <x_root> which were the page again? binary amd right?
[17:34] <RaySl> any sugestions?
[17:36] <drkjstr> You will need to select manual, customized installation.
[17:36] <poopybutthole> Is there any software for compressing memory in ubuntu?
[17:37] <Johnny_Linux> ditch the nick
[17:37] <drkjstr> poopybutthole, http://askubuntu.com/questions/387408/is-there-a-compressed-memory-available-for-12-04-not-compressed-swap
[17:37] <poopybutthole> Johnny_Linux: You're not my dad
[17:37] <poopybutthole> thanks drkjstr
[17:38] <linocisco> drkjstr, yes. i selected manual and what is next. found all are occupied by CentOS
[17:40] <poopybutthole> drkjstr: I tried to start zramswap after installing it and I just get that it failed to load
[17:40] <poopybutthole> No such file or directory
[17:41] <OerHeks> !badident | poopybutthole
[17:41] <drkjstr> linocisco, there is enough free space on the partition, right?  You will need to select the partition with CentOS, and then modify it. Shrink the size of it.
[17:41] <poopybutthole> !annoyingbuttface | OerHeks
[17:42] <poopybutthole> what's offensive about my name?
[17:42] <x_root> about binart drive amd on linux
[17:42] <poopybutthole> is that better?
[17:42] <x_root> i get this from vainfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/12136800/
[17:42] <poopybutthole> oh crap
[17:42] <poopybutthole> hold on
[17:43] <linocisco> drkjstr, how can I check? i found two #1 primary 525 MB B XFS and #2 primary 249.5GB K LVM
[17:43] <p_opybutthole> There
[17:43] <p_opybutthole> OerHeks: better?
[17:43] <linocisco> drkjstr, mine is 250GB only in total
[17:43] <k1l> poopybutthole: last time now: please change that nick since its offensive to other users. if you want to troll with your nick you will get banned
[17:43] <p_opybutthole> k1l: i did change it
[17:43] <p_opybutthole> I am asking if this is alright
[17:43] <p_opybutthole> i will change it if its not
[17:44] <UFO69> how much cost new windows?
[17:44] <OerHeks> UFO69, didn't you asked that question before?
[17:45] <drkjstr> linocisco, you would need to make sure inside the old system. If I'm not mistaken, you would want to resize the #2 partition down, to allow space for the Ubuntu installation.  Anyone else have a comment?
[17:45] <lis> Hello!
[17:46] <tiblock> Hi. I have SD card that i have problems with and i try to investigate. "lsblk" says /dev/sdb is 7.9GB and "gparted" says /dev/sdb is 1.92GB, who is correct? How to know?
[17:46] <UFO69> no
[17:46] <OerHeks> tiblock, size <> available space
[17:47] <drkjstr> UFO69, if you have Windows 7 or newer, then it is free.
[17:47] <tiblock> OerHeks, uhm. How to make them equal?
[17:47] <UFO69> i neeed windows XP
[17:47] <drkjstr> UFO69, please remember this channel is for Ubuntu support.
[17:47] <UFO69> ok
[17:47] <UFO69> how much cost?
[17:47] <OerHeks> UFO69, you know where to go ##windows, troll
[17:48] <drkjstr> But, Windows XP is no longer supported by Microsoft.
[17:48] <OerHeks> !ot
[17:48] <k1l_> UFO69: then ask in ##windows
[17:48] <UFO69> help my buy XP
[17:48] <DJones> UFO69: No, please go troll another channel
[17:52] <pooopyvaglna> I think I figured out what was wrong with my name
[17:52] <pooopyvaglna> butthole is offensive
[17:52] <pooopyvaglna> I get that now
[17:52] <pooopyvaglna> Please all mighty mods of ubuntu, forgive me
[17:52] <pooopyvaglna> Why was I kicked now?
[17:53] <pooopyvaglna> this is racism
[17:53] <DJones> pooopyvaglna: Either make your nick something suitable for the channel or leave
[17:53] <pooopyvaglna> You are kicking me because im black
[17:53] <tiblock> OerHeks, used dd, it is real size is 2.1 and 8gb is fake. Oh well...
[17:54] <sehnsucht> i have ubuntu 14.04.2 64 bit and when i do a file copy the dialogue vanishes and "show copy dialogue" doesn't bring it back. there's a little progress bar over the icon on the left and the copy is taking place.  any ideas?
[17:54] <OerHeks> tiblock, fake or damaged? 2 gb would be 2097152 KB
[17:54] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: which X?
[17:55] <tiblock> OerHeks, i bought it online from china, so 99.9% its fake than damaged
[17:55] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: i mean DE... Unity, Gnome, ...? (if you don't know, then Unity)
[17:55] <sehnsucht> how can i tell?
[17:55] <TJ-> tiblock: sounds about correct
[17:55] <sehnsucht> it's unity
[17:55] <OerHeks> 8 gb sticker :)
[17:56] <sehnsucht> it's a newish install and i've decided to put up with unity rather than fiddle and cause problems!
[17:56] <TJ-> OerHeks: the firmware is hacked, it reports a larger size but if you write to it the data wraps around at some lower address
[17:56] <OerHeks> That one is nasty, TJ.
[17:57] <TJ-> OerHeks: used to be a bigger problem but as Flash prices have dropped it isn't so prevalent
[17:57] <drkjstr> tiblock, TJ- I think a friend got one from China for $0.99 with the same situation.
[17:58] <OerHeks> It is like the old days, buying chips with predictable defects, and sell/use it
[17:58] <tiblock> drkjstr, peoples have them all the time. But i thought 8gb never would be faked. Usually its 32gb+
[17:59] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: multi-monitor setup?
[18:00] <sehnsucht> no, just the one, but 4 workspaces - can't see it in any of them though
[18:00] <v0r0nwe> maybe it's just disappearing to another screen :D
[18:00] <v0r0nwe> ah ok
[18:02] <OerHeks> sehnsucht, know issue i think: use alt-tab to the empty desktop, and release it, use alt tab to return to the window again
[18:02] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: why not 15.04 if it's a newish install anyway?
[18:02] <sehnsucht> because i wanted lts so i don't have to reinstall every 6 months or so.
[18:02] <v0r0nwe> sure
[18:04] <sehnsucht> alt-tab doesn't do that.
[18:04] <sehnsucht> shift-super-w shows all windows in all workspaces but it's not one of them
[18:05] <v0r0nwe> but the copying process is still running?
[18:05] <sehnsucht> yes, and the progress bar on on the app's icon on alt-tab, and on the launcher, looks plausible (slowish progress copying from hd to usb key at about 10mbps if it's the same speed as usual)
[18:06] <x_root> hm.. hey guys, i'm having trouble in play hardware accelerated videos..
[18:07] <x_root> i can't play using any hwdec method (on vlc or in mpv)
[18:07] <x_root> although this is my return from vainfo
[18:07] <sehnsucht> i chose move rather than copy so i'm not desperate to do anything that's going to cause problems.  on an earlier version of linux i moved a bunch of files, i got errors so nothing moved but it successfully did the `delete from the source location` part, which was very handy
[18:07] <x_root> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12136800/
[18:07] <x_root> anyone know how to solve?
[18:07] <sehnsucht> perhaps this is related to my problem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/645610/super-d-hides-copy-dialog-forever-in-15-04
[18:08] <x_root> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12136944/ <<  this is my exit from vlc
[18:09] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: but did you press super-d actually?
[18:09] <davis> whoops i got disconnected.
[18:10] <davis> i'm trying to figure out which group do I need to be in so that my regular user can issue dhclient commands. netdev appears not to be it.
[18:11] <sehnsucht> no, but in the linked-to bug report they have the same problem as me just from minimizing the dialogue
[18:11] <JerryP> so like an idiot, I upgraded the BIOS on my laptop, now I lost my dualboot for Ubuntu/Win8, anyone have any good instructions to get it back up and running?
[18:12] <v0r0nwe> JerryP: of course you did a complete backup before bios upgrade
[18:13] <JerryP> v0r0nwe: nope :(   but I can still get into windows and the "important" stuff is backed up to the cloud
[18:13] <k1l_> JerryP: what is the issue now?
[18:13] <k1l_> JerryP: what OS is booted?
[18:14] <JerryP> k1l_: I only have the UEFI Loader which loads Win8.1, but then Win8.1 ends up crashing anyway. If I try to change to legacy boot, it says no bootable media found
[18:14] <dev-code> does anyone know how to update flash.????? Ubuntu in the last upgrade and/or update kill the flash plugin an all browsers. I have Chromium, Firefox, Konqueror and Opera installed and its not working. There are web pages which running flash app and its not working. Does anyone knows how to fix this issue? Thank you
[18:15] <JerryP> Also, when Win8.1 crashes, it wont reboot. I have to open the laptop and remove the battery to get it to reboot
[18:15] <v0r0nwe> davis: you could tell your visudo that your regular user can run /usr/bin/dhclient or whatever without password
[18:15] <k1l_> JerryP: uh, i am not familiar with that uefi stuff. sorry
[18:16] <JerryP> k1l_: I actually want to scrap the UEFI. I had an ubuntu loader before the BIOS update
[18:16] <davis> v0r0nwe: how so? visudo and then what?
[18:16] <JerryP> k1l_: I just cant remember the steps to get the GRUB loader back
[18:17] <k1l_> was it uefi before?
[18:17] <JerryP> k1l_: OEM was UEFI, then I installed Linux and used GRUB to dual boot. Then I updated BIOS and now I am back to UEFI
[18:17] <v0r0nwe> davis: https://askubuntu.com/questions/159007/how-do-i-run-specific-sudo-commands-without-a-password
[18:18] <v0r0nwe> davis: make sure to edit this file via "sudo visudo"
[18:18] <linocisco> hi all
[18:18] <linocisco> I have existing CEntOS that take full disk. i want to remove and install half as ubuntu server and then I will install CentOS
[18:19] <linocisco> what do I do?
[18:20] <Nkontras> Hi there fellow Linux people.
[18:20] <hobbes> hi, I am having terrible problems with my wifi... I have an intel iwl3945abg wireless card. I try to connect to my university's eduroam network but every connection attempt results in timeouts... Has anyone had this problem before? (The problem is pretty odd since eduroam has worked well with my laptop for years :/)
[18:20] <Nkontras> I need help.
[18:21] <sehnsucht> ok, that copy completed.  i'm just copying some more files and his time the dialogue didn't appear at all
[18:21] <sehnsucht> as before, the icons are showing the progress successfully
[18:22] <Nkontras> After latest update of graphic driver I only have command prompt without networking (WiFi only if we had GUi, I think. ) Noob here.
[18:22] <Nkontras> 14.04.03
[18:23] <JerryP> k1l_: OH! I think I have to turn off secure boot in the BIOS, but it is grayed out.. any ideas?
[18:24] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: ok... sometimes it's all about magic ;)
[18:24] <Nkontras> Do you know any commands in command prompt to activate/ rollback stock nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[18:25] <Nkontras> Or a command to activate wifi
[18:25] <v0r0nwe> hobbes: did you change anything or did the problem just occur?
[18:26] <v0r0nwe> Nkontras: for wifi try these commands: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line
[18:26] <sehnsucht> sometimes it's all about rebooting!  i think i'll log out and in first and see if it's repeatable.  wonder if it's trying to open a window and failing. but why?  loads of space ram/disk space, quad core etc.
[18:26] <v0r0nwe> Nkontras: (worked for me a few weeks ago)
[18:27] <hobbes> v0r0nwe: I wasn't sure but after I have completely removed and reinstalled my ubuntu. I am sure that I haven't done anything...
[18:28] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: you could start nautilus from a terminal then it may will output some debug msg
[18:28] <altin> hi everyone
[18:28] <alexbucuresti> hi
[18:28] <altin> there is this xinput command that I use
[18:28] <altin> to check for USB devices connected
[18:28] <altin> to my pc
[18:29] <v0r0nwe> hobbes: same for you: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line try these command steps
[18:29] <altin> but unfortunately it only works when there is
[18:29] <altin> x server available
[18:29] <altin> i use it to list usb devices
[18:29] <altin> and as well disable them
[18:29] <altin> like: xinput set-prop 15 'Device Enabled' 0
[18:29] <altin> is there any other alternative you know that can do this?
[18:30] <sehnsucht> i'm not that experienced with linux but logging seems quite poor.  why isn't everything logged, to some ram if necessary for speed, so i can always find what went wrong without having to restart something in another mode to capture logging on future problems?
[18:30] <altin> I would like to disable let's say my USB keyboard
[18:31] <alexbucuresti> how is begginer linux?
[18:31] <linocisco> hi all
[18:31] <alexbucuresti> hi
[18:31] <ptideb> what is ur resuest alex ?
[18:31] <ptideb> request*
[18:31] <alexbucuresti> i m begginer linux
[18:31] <linocisco> how to prepare HDD for dual boot? first i will install ubuntu server and then CentOS
[18:32] <ptideb> you want to learn how to use linux ?
[18:32] <hobbes> v0r0nwe: I don't see, how that could help... There must be a reason for those timeouts... Here an example log for the error: http://pastebin.com/Rt032vf0
[18:33] <v0r0nwe> sehnsucht: afaik there is actually many logging per default, did you check ~/.xsession-errors
[18:33] <v0r0nwe> hobbes: sry was a bit confused because some Nkontras questions were also wifi related :D
[18:34] <Felishia> I need to run a command at boot
[18:34] <Felishia> how do I do that
[18:34] <hobbes> v0r0nwe: lol it's ok
[18:34] <Felishia> I heard it's using rc.local
[18:35] <ptideb> u use usb reboot ?
[18:35] <sehnsucht> no time stamps, but nothing very relevant looking there
[18:35] <linocisco> how to prepare HDD for dual boot? first i will install ubuntu server and then CentOS
[18:37] <ptideb> first of all lino u install unbuntu server after with terminal u creat a partition
[18:37] <v0r0nwe> hobbes: reason 'SSID not found'
[18:38] <v0r0nwe> hobbes: but i know for sure that "eduroam" is the right name :)
[18:39] <v0r0nwe> u tried to connect with other devices just to make sure that eduroam is actually working?
[18:39] <hobbes> v0r0nwe: Why do the strangest linux problems always occur on my laptop ;_;
[18:40] <tommygun> can ubuntu boot to a user selection screen instead of right into one of the user accounts i have setup?
[18:41] <v0r0nwe> tommygun: of coures, you can find that somewhere in the gui settings, depends on your desktop manager
[18:44] <x_root> hello guys, anyone can help me? how can i get a libvdpau_nvdia.so?
[18:45] <tommygun> i dont have a desktop manager or atleast i havent installed one lol :) i put Ubuntu on a laptop and was making different users and just got bothered that i didnt have a choice
[18:47] <x_root> tommygun, you can choose a prefered desktop manager right before you enter on session
[18:47] <x_root> if you are using lightdm, there's a "ubuntu" icon just above the ">" to log in
[18:47] <v0r0nwe> tommygun: x_root i think we talk about display managers, sorry
[18:47] <x_root> oh.. sorry v0r0nwe :P
[18:47] <v0r0nwe> no sorry to me
[18:48] <v0r0nwe> because i said "desktop manager" before xD
[18:48] <x_root> oh.. that's what i get from reading just the last line :P
[18:49] <v0r0nwe> hehe
[18:50] <v0r0nwe> tommygun: somewhere in your settings (reachable within unity) you can find that option
[18:50] <v0r0nwe> somewhere at "Session", "User", "Login"
[18:50] <v0r0nwe> i don't remember i'm not with unity for months
[18:50] <v0r0nwe> (even no ubuntu, sorry)
[18:52] <Felishia> help I need to make a startup script...
[18:52] <Felishia> once that runs on boot
[18:54] <CarlFK> how do I apt-get figure out what provides libgthread-2.0.so.0 ?
[18:54] <JerryP> Ok, anyway to reset a forgotten ubuntu password? *sigh*...
[18:54] <Felishia> JerryP, yeah
[18:54] <Felishia> modify your grub startup and change your unix password with passwd
[18:55] <JerryP> Felishia: Cool! Thanks! Actually, I think I finally got it on like the 10th try, lol
[18:55] <Felishia> that by changing the init to init=/bin/sh and changing ro to rw I thinl
[18:55] <CarlFK> JerryP:  (and Felishia) hold shift down on boot.  that gets you the grub menu that has a Recovery option to drop you to a root shell
[19:07] <JerryP> CarlFK: Thanks! The GRUB seems to be working now, at least I can select between Win8 and Linux. I am still having some issues in Win8 (Keyboard Mouse not working) that couldnt have anything to do with the boot loader, right?
[19:12] <CarlFK> JerryP: probably not.
[19:16] <boze> I use vi mode for bash. Is there a way to give some indication if you are in insert mode or not? like change the cursor color?
[19:17] <Pici> boze: #bash might know
[19:17] <boze> Pici, ty
[19:20] <samalex> probably a common question, but is jumping from LTS to 15.04 worth it?
[19:20] <v0r0nwe> samalex: debends...
[19:20] <srupp> If you are on a LTS build, generally waiting for the next LTS build is the best option.
[19:20] <srupp> Why double your energy to upgrade again in the shorter lifecycle
[19:21] <srupp> Just my 2 cents
[19:21] <samalex> this'll be my primary system, so i need something stable.  i generally stick with LTS versions, but given i'm about to order a new system form system76 just wasn't sure if there were any must haves with 15.04
[19:21] <samalex> and i agree i generall don't like upgrading every 6 months
[19:22] <srupp> Guess its really 50/50 then since you know what you want and need
[19:23] <Orm_Ancalagon> Evening all, not sure if this is the right place to ask but I have some questions regarding init services and their starting order, i’d be mighty greatful for some help or directions to the right place
[19:23] <srupp> I installed 15 to check it out, but use LTS on my workstations
[19:23] <sehnsucht> suppose you wanted to reinstall every 6 months; is there some sane way of doing this so you don't have to reinstall and reconfigure everything each time?
[19:24] <samalex> i've generally done clean installs between versions, been bit by upgrades way too many times
[19:24] <SCHAAP137> backing up your homedir?
[19:24] <CarlFK> Schnabeltierchen: um.. what do you mean "reinstall but not reinstall" ?
[19:24] <srupp> You can always get everything in order/up-to-date as you like and image the system. Then when you nuke it you have a starting point and just have to update from that point
[19:25] <sehnsucht> what about endless config files though; samba config for example. anything not in home, really
[19:25] <srupp> Of course, you need to manage your data before you blow it away
[19:25] <sinisterdoor> sehnsucht:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[19:25] <sinisterdoor> Since Hardy it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu without losing the content of the /home folder (the folder that contains program settings, internet bookmarks, emails and all your documents, music, videos and other user files). This can be done even if /home is not on a separate partition
[19:25] <fawkes_> hu
[19:25] <fawkes_> hi
[19:26] <samalex> sinisterdoor: i never trust my data to upgrade scripts , i'd suggest a backup be in place before doing something like this.
[19:26] <sehnsucht> sinisterdoor,  reading that now
[19:26] <sinisterdoor> sehnsucht this is for /home,I read your response way too late.this wont be a help for you
[19:26] <sinisterdoor> sorry
[19:27] <fawkes_> BR alguem?
[19:27] <Pici> !br | fawkes_
[19:27] <sinisterdoor> samalex:  wiki itself suggest clonezilla before the operation I suggested
[19:31] <ash_work> in the terminal, I often have to hit the esc key before b or f to move back or forward by word... is there an alternate to moving the cursor by word?
[19:32] <ash_work> like, an alternate key-combo or something
[19:32] <arch> yo
[19:32] <rodd> anyone using xps 13 ubuntu?
[19:33] <ash_work> delete word is the most cumbersome: ^[ ^H
[19:33] <ash_work> oh wait
[19:33] <Guest15431> ash_work, in vi?
[19:33] <ash_work> oh, not that's not had; bleh! what was I thinking
[19:33] <ash_work> always literally pushing ctrl+H
[19:33] <ash_work> esc backspace
[19:33] <ash_work> much easier
[19:33] <ash_work> but still
[19:34] <ash_work> entering the esc is slightly more cumbersome than ctrl or shift
[19:34] <ash_work> particularly because you don't _hold_ esc, you just press it once
[19:34] <ash_work> Guest15431: no, just in a shell terminal; like bash commands
[19:35] <pbx> rodd, i ran ubntu on an xps, what's up?
[19:35] <rodd> pbx: do you still use the laptop?
[19:35] <rodd> just wondering if it responds well
[19:35] <rodd> and is a good laptop
[19:36] <ash_work> so uh, ^w is "cut" the word behind... anyone know how to paste this?
[19:39] <bloop> i need to get "libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0"
[19:39] <bloop> "error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open"
[19:42] <v0r0nwe> bloop: libsdl-ttf2.0-0 is installed, right?
[19:42] <al2o3-cr> ^w is werase
[19:42] <bloop> v0r0nwe: I've installed those
[19:43] <v0r0nwe> for what do you need it?
[19:43] <bloop> v0r0nwe: epsxe emulator
[19:44] <ioria> !info libsdl-ttf2.0-dev
[19:44] <bloop> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/sdl_ttf-322767/
[19:44] <bloop> I may have to soft link
[19:45] <v0r0nwe> apt-get install ia32-libs
[19:45] <Dresk> I can't take it anymore, audio in Linux hasn't gotten better in the 12+ years I've been using it, and since switching to *buntu, PulseAudio has made it even worse, for the love of all that is holy, where do I seek solace away from this terrible blight, or I am doomed to "Ubuntu is meant to use PulseAudio"
[19:45] <v0r0nwe> bloop: found at http://ngemu.com/threads/ubuntu-13-10-error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libsdl_ttf-2-0-so-0-cannot-open-s.158826/
[19:46] <v0r0nwe> this is directly related to epsxe
[19:48] <bloop> screw it
[19:48] <bloop> that's too much work for an emulator
[19:48] <v0r0nwe> indeed
[19:48] <sehnsucht> ash_work: you can use vi mode in bash and use vi motions (not sure if you knew this already or not)
[19:49] <ash_work> sehnsucht: I did not know that
[19:50] <bloop> ugh
[19:50] <bloop> there's a playstation emulator in the software center
[19:50] <sehnsucht> ash_work,    in bash type set -o vi
[19:51] <sehnsucht> then you can hit escape for normal more, i into insert mode etc.
[19:51] <sehnsucht> normal mode
[19:51] <ash_work> sehnsucht: I'll keep that in mind :)
[19:53] <Subject66> Why? If I accidently click on shutdown, it shows me the Logout screen?
[19:53] <Subject66> Why? When you cancel from that screen, it Logs you out ANYWAY ?
[20:00] <ash_work> so this conf file has several variables in it; I assume these are supposed to be set before the script is checked. I can echo the var in bash but running service apache2 reload says the var is undefined
[20:00] <ash_work> anyone know how I make the var visible to apache?
[20:07] <Pa^2> How do I stop Files from opening every time I put in a USB thumb drive?
[20:08] <lefti> hi
[20:09] <alexbucuresti> hi
[20:11] <Guest35782> hi
[20:12] <fellayaboy> hey i placed a folder inside a folder thats symbolically linked....when i look thru the symbolic linked folder i dont see the folder in placed
[20:12] <Guest35782> i need a software to proyect managment plase sugestions
[20:12] <ash_work> can you export a variable after it's defined?
[20:15] <leptone> this is a test
[20:15] <fellayaboy> how do i troubleshoot a symbolic linked folder, where certain files and folders dont show up
[20:21] <climu> Hi, I can't manage to start a script at loggin.
[20:21] <climu> the script work in shell...
[20:22] <climu> I hadd it in the automatic startup windows but it doesn't seems to launch it
[20:22] <v0ronwe> climu: .bash_login, .profile or what?
[20:23] <climu> v0ronwe: I do'nt understand the question
[20:24] <v0ronwe> sry
[20:28] <goodvin> Hello! I need help. I don't configure wi-fi on my PC. lsusb: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp.; uname -r: 3.16.0-38-generic
[20:28] <goodvin> Sorry my English
[20:28] <FLeiXiuS> goodvin, What?  Was that english lol
[20:28] <PsychoI3oy> so this 14.04 install is defaulting users (and sudo'd) process priortiy/niceness to 3 and it's ignoring changes to /etc/security/limits.conf to reset it to 0; a friend thought it might be systemd related but he's an arch guy and I'm a gentoo guy normally; I have more details in a reddit post if a link would be appropriate
[20:29] <goodvin> По русски понимает кто-нибудь?
[20:29] <teward> !ru | goodvin
[20:29] <teward> bah
[20:29] <teward> laggyyy
[20:30] <neonixcoder> Hi guys, I am planing to upgrading my ubuntu OS and come to know unattended upgrade using do-release-upgrade -f "DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive", I am curious that there will be other options available for -f.
[20:30] <neonixcoder> do any one knows it?
[20:31] <v0ronwe> climu: sry i mean do you want execute this script at login into a X session or at starting bash?
[20:37] <climu> v0ronwe :I don't know I gue at login. Since the script work into X .
[20:37] <v0ronwe> have a look at .xinitrc
[20:37] <climu> ok. thanks
[20:40] <santosxen> Hey does anyone know how to start gnome do without a gnome interface?
[20:42] <fluvvell> Ive got an Acer laptop, a new Aspire E15  that won't let me sort out the graphics mode, I can boot through in rescue but with patheticly slow graphics
[20:42] <fluvvell> it appears to be intel graphics, is there a hint page for Ubuntu 15.04 to  sort t his out?
[20:44] <v0ronwe> does this Aspire has nvidia and did you install the non-free drivers?
[20:44] <fluvvell> v0ronwe, its a pentium with intel HD graphics
[20:45] <v0ronwe> a sry
[20:46] <fluvvell> v0ronwe, do you mean ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[20:46] <v0ronwe> e.g.
 I have  o such file in the home directory...
[20:46] <climu> *no such file
[20:51] <Delta706> I can do ctrl-alt-f2 to switch from X server to a tty. Is there a command to do this?
[20:53] <v0ronwe> climu: what desktop environment, unity?
[20:55] <santosxen> does anyone know a good task planer software for linux?  ( to do list)
 : xfce
[20:55] <OerHeks> rednotebook is a nice agenda
[20:56] <pte_petey> hi ubuntu
[20:56] <pte_petey> I've tried several times from mac osx to create a bootable usb
[20:56] <pte_petey> but my netbook (which can boot other distros) doesn't seem to like it
[20:57] <Gallomimia> pte_petey: hi. i've seen that problem. can you show me the command you used to do it?
[20:57] <v0ronwe> climu: i think then .xinitrc should work. everything in there will be executed during starting of xsession, so put your script in there
[20:57] <pte_petey> i followed the instructions from the help page
[20:57] <pte_petey> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:57] <v0ronwe> climu: make sure .xinitrc is +x
[20:57] <Gallomimia> are you in terminal typing dd ?
[20:57] <pte_petey> yes
[20:57] <Gallomimia> show me the exact text you used for that command
[20:58] <pte_petey> pastebin ok ?
 I try thanks.
[20:58] <Gallomimia> sure, but one line should be ok to paste here
[20:58] <andreas> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 MATE edition. I have an external Monitor at my Laptop and I want it as primary screen. How can I set this? It's not possible in the graphical monitor settings
[20:58] <Gallomimia> wow that is a lot of new commands to be using on that help page. all i did in the past was the dd command nothing else
[20:59] <v0ronwe> me2
[20:59] <climu> v0ronwe: doesn't work :(
[20:59] <pte_petey> sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.img.dmg of=/dev/disk4s1 bs=1m
[21:00] <Gallomimia> okay i see what you did wrong: the of=/dev/disk4s1 should be just disk4
[21:00] <climu> I created a .xinitrc with my script on it. I chmod +x it.
[21:01] <OerHeks> Gallomimia +1
[21:01] <PsychoI3oy> so how do i set my default niceness (priority?) to 0? it's at 3 on both my user and in sudo and modifying /etc/security/limits.conf doesn't help (more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/3hr17z/user_accounts_default_to_niceness_priority_of_3/ )
[21:01] <Gallomimia> the command you wrote put the installer on a partition within the usb stick. you want it to occupy the whole disk, and it comes with a bootable master block
[21:01] <pte_petey> right ok
[21:01] <Gallomimia> when you try again, make sure it's still disk4
[21:01] <v0ronwe> climu: try the same with .xprofile
[21:01] <pte_petey> i think the doc should come with a warning
[21:01] <OerHeks> its a hybrid iso, so dd to partition indeed
[21:02] <Gallomimia> it can change, and you don't want to use dd on the wrong disk :(
[21:02] <pte_petey> yes
[21:02] <OerHeks> err disk
[21:02] <pte_petey> can i make a swap partition ?
[21:02] <Gallomimia> yes. on the startup disk?
[21:02] <pte_petey> ideally i want to transfer another two distro's and then load that onto ubuntu
[21:02] <pte_petey> yes
[21:02] <pte_petey> part A=> ubuntu, Part B=> files, distros
[21:03] <Gallomimia> i guess so. you'll have to do it after dd finishes
[21:03] <OerHeks> you can make a persistant partition yes, that is not called swap
[21:03] <Gallomimia> swap is what mac calls "virtual memory" or they did before adopting unix
[21:04] <v0ronwe> ±
 : now I can't loggin
[21:04] <v0ronwe> argh
[21:06] <v0ronwe> go to command line and remove .xprofile :D
[21:07] <climu> I did  :)
[21:07] <climu> I have to go  now
[21:07] <v0ronwe> ok sry
[21:07] <climu> thanks for the help
[21:08] <climu> I will post on the forum I guess
[21:08] <v0ronwe> or ask someone else :)
[21:10] <burk_20> Hi all, I get the following when I execute web3.currentProvider -> http://pastebin.com/u9knYfRF
[21:10] <burk_20> http://pastebin.com/u9knYfRF
[21:10] <burk_20> I should get something else, right?
[21:10] <burk_20> how can I set the provider?
[21:11] <burk_20> sorry, wrong chat
[21:12] <fluvvell> v0ronwe, it also won't reboot. stops on text screen wiht [OK] Reached target Shutdown
[21:13] <v0ronwe> he?
[21:16] <pte_petey> Gallomimia so basically do the dd to the main disk then parition and create a partition for putting files on
[21:16] <pte_petey> I'm a bit rusty on my OS concepts
[21:16] <pte_petey> hoping to learn bash scripting much better...
[21:17] <Gallomimia> it sounds reasonable
[21:17] <Gallomimia> something i've never tried befor tho
[21:17] <Gallomimia> what'd they call it ? a persistent partition?
[21:17] <Gallomimia> that might be worth googling
[21:37] <misho_> I have a strange situation...i have no sound anywhere on my system,but when i test from Sound GUI app my stereo speakers are working.How can i resume or check my sound?
[21:38] <misho_> Also there is no music from YouTube for example
[21:38] <misho_> I am familiar with alsamixer..but what can i do from there?
[21:39] <OerHeks> f6 select sound device
[21:39] <OerHeks> and f3/f4 see if you see a MM = mut on the panel
[21:39] <OerHeks> mute*
[21:40] <misho_> where should be this MM? I have capture and digital and they are set on same level
[21:41] <urist_> q
[21:42] <PsychoI3oy> so how do i set my default niceness (priority?) to 0? it's at 3 on both my user and in sudo and modifying /etc/security/limits.conf doesn't help (more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/3hr17z/user_accounts_default_to_niceness_priority_of_3/ )
[21:42] <misho_> What is Auto mute mode [ENABLED]
[21:44] <misho_> how can i change this Auto Mute Mode?
[21:46] <yepla> does fglrx work again ?
[21:47] <nudoge> !append
[21:49] <shovel_boss> gnash
[21:49] <shovel_boss> lightspark
[21:49] <shovel_boss> are they true FOSS
[21:49] <shovel_boss> FSF approved?
[21:50] <k1l_> shovel_boss: ask the fsf
[21:50] <shovel_boss> k1l_: where do i find them
[21:51] <k1l_> shovel_boss: you know about fsf so dont pretend you cant find them. go somewhere else for trolling
[21:51] <shovel_boss> k1l_: you seem helpful
[21:52] <shovel_boss> k1l_: using that slippery slope argument to accuse me
[21:55] <misho_> I still don;t find any solution
[21:56] <LessGenericNick> Hello world!
[21:58] <LessGenericNick> alright guys you know how wifi sometimes has an open wifi-guest thing next to it?
[21:58] <codefate> Hello
[21:59] <LessGenericNick> hello
[22:00] <codefate> What kind of IRC client does everyone use. I'm currently using HexChat but I'm not loving it that well...
[22:00] <LessGenericNick> i got xchat
[22:01] <k1l_> codefate: there are several others, just test them and see what suits you best
[22:01] <Bashing-om> codefate: If you are terminal minded, try irssi .
[22:01] <codefate> I never heard of irssi before. I'll give it a look.
[22:03] <Bashing-om> codefate: http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/irssi.html .
[22:03] <dey_> smuxi ! + persistent connection \o/
[22:03] <codefate> I'm on the startup documentation page right now.
[22:03] <NTQ> Does anybody know how to configure postfix that nobody is able to set "From:" to an other value than his/her account name?
[22:04] <Bashing-om> codefate: irssi help ' /join #irssi ' .
[22:05] <codefate> Thank you Bashing-om
[22:05] <codefate> I'll definitely give it a look.
[22:05] <Bashing-om> codefate: :)
[22:06] <k1l_> codefate: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat for other clients
[22:06] <codefate> Oh that is awesome.
[22:07] <r1k1_> NTQ have yoy set FQDN and dns ?
[22:07] <r1k1_> you**
[22:09] <r1k1_> i think this is best link for setting up postfix / dovecot
[22:09] <r1k1_> http://www.krizna.com/ubuntu/setup-mail-server-ubuntu-14-04/
[22:09] <NTQ> r1k1_: SSL authentication is enabled still but someone who is authenticated as name@mailserver.tld can change the From:
[22:10] <NTQ> Oh, shit. I have to log out. Sorry. I will ask that question again tomorrow.
[22:11] <r1k1_> you need set up also in the dns that only people from that server can send or lots of viagra mail will left
[22:13] <codefate> So being that I'm new-ish to Ubuntu, is there any programs that you couldn't live without?
[22:14] <k1l_> codefate: that depends on the user and workflow. just start using ubuntu and if you miss something you can look into the software center
[22:14] <OerHeks> a browser :-)
[22:15] <v0r0nwe> codefate: vim, zsh, i3m, mutt, weechat, bitlbee
[22:15] <v0r0nwe> :D
[22:15] <wowaname> I'm writing a research paper about GNU/Linux distributions. Can anyone tell me why Debian and Mint are objectively superior to Ubuntu? Thanks a lot in advance!
[22:15] <OerHeks> but this is no polling channel, just ubuntu support.
[22:15] <AEL-H> Is there a way I can prevent a user for snooping in other users files, even with ls -all?
[22:15] <v0r0nwe> wowaname: ask the same question at #debian and compare the results xD
[22:15] <wowaname> I need support and evidence on my research paper.
[22:15] <k1l_> wowaname: this is the ubuntu support channel so you are objectively trolling on purpose.
[22:16] <wowaname> Who can I blame for my failing grade, k1l_?
[22:16] <gdot> yourself only
[22:16] <r1k1_> wowname isent it that ubuntu is debian based and linux mint is build on ubuntu?
[22:16] <fork|2> test
[22:17] <dsdafds> k1l_ sounds like a smelly jew
[22:17] <k1l_> r1k1_: yes. just dont mind the trolls
[22:17] <r1k1_> wow wrong channel
[22:17] <dsdafds> bet he drinks piss
[22:17] <r1k1_> thought this is linux mint
[22:17] <r1k1_> xD
[22:17] <teward> !test | fork|2
[22:17] <r1k1_> ah he said mint
[22:18] <codefate> OMG Zsh is so useful. Thanks v0r0nwe.
[22:24] <AEL-H> How can I listen in to another users pty session?
[22:26] <r1k1_> need music in tty1 or some else?
[22:26] <AEL-H> r1k1_: What does that mean?
[22:26] <r1k1_> if you need to hear whats playing on desktop on tty1 tty2 etc you need to add your user to audio group then it plays on all windows you are logged in
[22:27] <kadiro> hello, Is there any way to access a device connected to my router?
[22:27] <r1k1_> ssh?
[22:27] <r1k1_> sftp?
[22:27] <kadiro> how?
[22:27] <aeden__D> kadiro, what is the device your trying to connect to?
[22:28] <kadiro> I have one PC and one archos and my personnal pc
[22:28] <AEL-H> r1k1_: Sorry I did not mean literally to listen: What I meant to say is, as root priveleges is there any way for me to control the terminal of another user in the same effect as sharing a screen session
[22:29] <r1k1_> hmm
[22:29] <r1k1_> vnc?
[22:29] <k1l_> kadiro: choose one protocol and make sure the clients and servers are running.
[22:29] <aeden__D> kadiro, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[22:30] <kadiro> the other pc is in windows xp and archos 9 have seven starter, i'm newbie how to do a client and server
[22:30] <k1l_> kadiro: what do you want to do with the other pcs?
[22:30] <kadiro> k1l_: just to share or to see inside it
[22:31] <AEL-H> r1k1_ :
[22:31] <kadiro> and i have a second question about archos 9
[22:31] <AEL-H> Is there a way I can prevent a user from snooping another users files , even with the use of ls -all?
[22:31] <k1l_> kadiro: start with samba which is the windows network data share protocol
[22:31] <k1l_> !samba | kadiro
[22:31] <kadiro> thank you
[22:32] <columbobaas> Just saw a Ubuntu 16.04 concept and it looks beautiful.
[22:32] <kadiro> last question, can i install ubuntu or any distro inside archos 9, i looked in internet and they say that possible with an older kernel
[22:33] <kadiro> thank you guys
[22:33] <r1k1_> AEL-H if you installed with encrypt my home folder what is maybe as default other users cant see whats in your home folder
[22:33] <k1l_> kadiro: better ask the archos9 community
[22:33] <r1k1_> if not look google for chmod and chown
[22:33] <kadiro> ok thk's
[22:33] <AEL-H> r1k1_: How can I check home folder is encrypted?
[22:34] <v0r0nwe> AEL-H: is there any .encryptfs or something?
[22:34] <v0r0nwe> or .Private
[22:34] <AEL-H> v0r0nwe: Yes there is, but I logged in as another user and I can clearly see all the files in there
[22:34] <skittishtrigger> does 10Gb missing from a ssd hd seem a bit much to you guys/gals?  Pretty common to have some of it missing on sata style but that much on a ssd?
[22:35] <AEL-H> skittishtrigger: missing in what way?
[22:35] <skittishtrigger> Not showing as space available at all. 120Gb showing as 108
[22:35] <k1l_> skittishtrigger: missing? what does "parted -l" give you? can you pastebin that?
[22:36] <AEL-H> skittishtrigger: I think that might be the difference between Gb and GiB -- 1024 and 1000?
[22:36] <skittishtrigger> hmm, i'll look
[22:36] <aeden__D> AEL-H, Have a look at the file /etc/fstab. If you see something called "ecryptfs" on the same line as "/home" then I think your folder is encrypted.
[22:37] <skittishtrigger> ya, the parted -l showed the missing
[22:37] <AEL-H> aeden_D: I cannot see that, however there is a .encryptfs in my home folder
[22:38] <k1l_> skittishtrigger: please put into a pastebin. than add the output of "df -h"
[22:39] <skittishtrigger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12138175/
[22:39] <r1k1_> AEL-H then its encrypted im pretty sure
[22:39] <r1k1_> make guest account and try to look if want proof for it x)
[22:39] <AEL-H> r1k1_ : Then how come other users can see my home directory in plain view?
[22:40] <r1k1_> then u should look chmod and chown but be carefully with those commands
[22:40] <r1k1_> if you make text file readable executable and writable by all its not good :D
[22:41] <k1l_> skittishtrigger: hmm, good question why the filesystem on  sda6 is not 118GB big.
[22:41] <k1l_> skittishtrigger: are you sure you made the Filesystem 118GB large?
[22:42] <skittishtrigger> No, it was setup by the host company. its a dedicated server rented.  I was curious as to a bunch of minor discrepencies like that
[22:42] <k1l_> skittishtrigger: hmm, but i looked it up on my system and its the same
[22:43] <skittishtrigger> The second output breaks it down correctly. it is all there but there is a lot more used in /dev then I thought there would be
[22:44] <aeden__D> AEL-H, if someone knows the password you use to login they can use that do see your files.. by doing this --> ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase  that will prompt for YOUR password and there you go
[22:49] <AEL-H> aeden_D : What my main concern is, is there not a way such that 'ls -all' or some similar command, would not produce output in another users folder if it was intended to be kept private -- and if that is possible how do I do that?
[22:53] <x_root> hello, i'm getting stuck with vainfo using open drivers
[22:53] <x_root> what should i do?
[22:56] <AEL-H> How can I only allow a user to navigate his home folder? therefore preventing them from reading the rest of the systems files
[23:00] <aeden__D> AEL-H, chroot their home directory and they should not be able to see anything below that
[23:01] <aeden__D> AEL-H, the permissions for directories are basically read, write, execute
[23:01] <aeden__D> AEL-H, or dont give them root access
[23:04] <AEL-H> aeden_D : Sorry I am quite the novice, what does it mean to chroot their home directory?
[23:04] <tonyyarusso> aeden__D: a chroot would prevent seeing things *above* their home directory
[23:05] <lastenga> Hi!
[23:05] <lastenga> I have a question
[23:05] <aeden__D> tonyyarusso, I understand, and that response was silly on my part since those users would still need access to to directories sucj as /usr/bin /usr/lib /tmp /var etc
[23:06] <lastenga> do you know if exist a Linux distribution with support to brcsmac for default?
[23:06] <aeden__D> tonyyarusso, not to mention config files in /etc.
[23:07] <tonyyarusso> yup
[23:07] <OerHeks> brcmsmac ?
[23:08] <OerHeks> !bcm
[23:08] <aeden__D> tonyyarusso, AEL-H is basically trying to quarantine a user to their home dir so they cannot see HIS files in ~/
[23:08] <darius93> correct me if im wrong but i thought ubuntu 14.04 was suppose to be using linux kernel 3.13 during its lifetime, and not 3.16
[23:08] <lastenga> Yeah, thanks for all!!!!
[23:09] <lastenga> ubottu, thanks!
[23:10] <AEL-H> aeden__D: So would chroot not be appropriate then?
[23:10] <lastenga> OerHeks Thanks :)
[23:11] <aeden__D> AEL-H, chmod o-rwx "$HOME"
[23:14] <aeden__D> AEL-H, maybe too much to explain here... but have a look at this --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/200911/how-to-prevent-access-to-a-folder-by-other-users
[23:16] <AEL-H> aeden__D: As I understand it, chmod o-rwx "$HOME" would prevent them from accessing the home directory of whoever said the command right? But  that does not change them being able to access the root folder right?
[23:18] <aeden__D> AEL-H, no, it doesn't. but you've posed several questions and I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly you want. If you dont want them messing with / then set the theor owner/group perms etc to limit their access
[23:19] <AEL-H> aeden__D: Ok thanks
[23:20] <kadiro> ha i got a question, i know it is odd but i'm curious, in windows there are a program can create two folders autorun.inf/zhengbo./ , i ask if i can create the same think inside ubuntu ( i tryed mkdir without success )
[23:20] <aeden__D> AEL-H, there are subdirectories of the root folder they need access to, applications they run that need access to subdirectories of /. So locking them out of / would lock them out of directories they need to run stuff
[23:22] <k1l_> kadiro: linux 101: look into the manpage (man mkdir) or documentation of a program if there is a option to do what you want.
[23:23] <k1l_> kadiro: its the -p switch of mkdir
[23:23] <jason__> I was having trouble with my wifi when I first installed ubuntu. Now it works, but I have to manually do a "modprobe ath9k" when I reboot in order to enable wifi. How do I make this automatic? I can't find it blacklisted anywhere.
[23:24] <kadiro> k1l_: good that worked for creating but i can access inside the second folder, i want the same that i can't remove it from windows and i can't access to
[23:26] <k1l_> kadiro: i dont understand what your issue is
[23:26] <k1l_> are you talking about a folder on a windows hdd?
[23:27] <kadiro> k1l_: I want to create a folder that can't delete it from windows
[23:27] <k1l_> create on ubuntu system? or what?
[23:27] <kadiro> yes
[23:28] <k1l_> how are you accesing the ubuntu system from the windows?
[23:28] <kadiro> for example i want to create a folder from ubuntu inside windows and when back to windows i can't access it or remove it
[23:30] <mr_yogurt> Is there a way to update the included python 3 install from 3.4.0 to 3.4.3?
[23:30] <k1l_> kadiro: dont know. that sounds like a weird setup
[23:30] <mr_yogurt> using apt
[23:30] <kadiro> k1l_: just a curious question, thank you
[23:31] <mr_yogurt> also the included python 2 from 2.7.whateveritwas to 2.7.10
[23:32] <k1l_> mr_yogurt: which ubuntu version?
[23:32] <Infinite_> help!
[23:32] <mr_yogurt> kil_: 14.04.3
[23:32] <Infinite_> guys i'm in recovery mode rn ;-;
[23:33] <Infinite_> I cleared myip tables and now I can't connect to my dedicated serve
[23:33] <Infinite_> I can only connect in recovery mode
[23:33] <Infinite_> How can I fix it? ;-;
[23:34] <Infinite_> please ;-;
[23:34] <Infinite_> a years full of work is on it
[23:34] <Infinite_> how can I recover everythig
[23:35] <kadiro> Infinite_: recovering i think testdisk ( i'm just a newbie )
[23:35] <Infinite_> what do you mean? (i'm more of a noob
[23:36] <kadiro> !info testdisk | Infinite_
[23:36] <CryptoSiD> hi guys, ubuntu trusty x64, trying to run hhvm just updated, and in /var/log/hhvm/error.log i see: "Uncaught exception: Failed to resolve address for "/var/run/hhvm/hhvm.sock": Name or service not known (error=-2): Unknown error -2"
[23:36] <k1l_> kadiro: no, testdisk is just wrong here
[23:36] <CryptoSiD> any idea how i could fix this?
[23:37] <Infinite_> kadiro: How can I use it
[23:37] <kadiro> oh sorry then k1l_
[23:37] <k1l_> kadiro: please only suggest solutions where you know they will help.
[23:37] <Infinite_> ih
[23:37] <Infinite_> k1l_: what should I do then?
[23:37] <Infinite_> Is there a way to let me connect back to the original server?
[23:37] <Infinite_> Right now it has to connection to everything
[23:37] <Infinite_> no*
[23:38] <kadiro> k1l_: i'm thinking testdisk can recover his file but like i said i just a newbie, i will be carefull in next time, sorry
[23:39] <Infinite_> The connection times out in SSH
[23:40] <kadiro> no idea sorry for my wrong information
[23:40] <Infinite_> ;-;
[23:40] <k1l_> Infinite_: i dont know what you did or how to undo it from the recovery
[23:41] <Infinite_> I did sudo ufw disable
[23:41] <Infinite_> then enabled it
[23:41] <kadiro> k1l_: may be he have a backup file like file.conf~ ?
[23:41] <Infinite_> and sudo iptables -F
[23:42] <k1l_> kadiro: if he made such a thing
[23:42] <Infinite_> I didn't.
[23:42] <kadiro> oh
[23:42] <Infinite_> How should I fix what I did
[23:42] <Infinite_> I think sudo iptables -F is what broke it
[23:43] <kadiro> i have an idea but i don't know if it work or not
[23:43] <Infinite_> ??
[23:43] <kadiro> k1l_: can i suggess my idea?
[23:44] <Infinite_> suggest it then k1l_  will say if its bad
[23:44] <kadiro> like reinstalling iptable for example
[23:44] <Infinite_> k1l_:  would that fix it
[23:44] <Infinite_> but can I reinstall stuff in recovery mode?
[23:44] <Infinite_> its recovery pro btw
[23:45] <Infinite_> k1l_:  should I do it?
[23:45] <k1l_> Infinite_: the recovery depends on the hoster and are most times custom recoveries. i would suggest to talk to the hoster if they can help you there
[23:46] <Infinite_> k1l_: My hoster is OVH
[23:46] <Infinite_> so
[23:46] <Infinite_> and its Recovery Pro
[23:46] <Infinite_> k1l_: would reinstalling the iptables be fine
[23:48] <k1l_> Infinite_: i dont know what iptables rules you need to get connected again. but the -F did kill all rules
[23:49] <Infinite_> so killing all of them was the problem?
[23:51] <kadiro> the thing i don't understand it why you can connect from recovery and not from a normal session?
[23:51] <musketball> Hi all. I have an install issue with 15.04
[23:52] <musketball> Prob!em is the error is a silly dialog with ??? In it
[23:52] <kadiro> Hi musketball
[23:52] <yepla> hi hello night
[23:52] <musketball> Ubiquity crash as far as I can tell
[23:52] <yepla> does fglrx is still broken ?
[23:53] <musketball> Hi kadiro
[23:53] <yepla> i have see an upgrade of fglrx-core
[23:53] <kadiro> Hi yepla
[23:53] <yepla> i m asking if fglrx-driver is working again now
[23:54] <yepla> nobody know ?
[23:54] <k1l_> yepla: did you file a bug or contribute to a bug?
[23:54] <kadiro> no idea yepla i have seen a lot of users talking about that
[23:54] <k1l_> yepla: that would be the place to get the news if its a bug from the ubuntu side.
[23:55] <yepla> yes sure maybe it s ati
[23:55] <yepla> but i m asking if the problem has been resolved
[23:56] <kadiro> musketball: you booting it from USB or DVD?
[23:56] <kgirthofer_> what ya'll using to edit go pro videos
[23:56] <kgirthofer_> simple stuff - just like chopping bits out and speeding up sections
[23:56] <k1l_> yepla: buy me a laptop with amd card and i could test it :)
[23:56] <kgirthofer_> I tried openshot and couldn't figure out
[23:56] <musketball> Kadiro: DVD.  Live image works perfectly so I doubt a hardware issue
[23:57] <kadiro> musketball: you check the md5 or sha256 for this images?
[23:57] <k1l_> yepla: no really: see the bugreports on launchpad.net that is where the package maintainer ask for more info and details and say when its fixed
[23:57] <yepla> k1l_: yes but it s boring i want play ark on linux to increase time on linux and i cannot because it s broken and i want really play :(
[23:57] <musketball> Kadiro.  No.
[23:58] <kully3xf> No one uses and video stuff?
[23:58] <kadiro> check it musketball may be corrupted
[23:59] <musketball> Kadiro. Good point. I will do that